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- 0:01Oh man, this is one of my favorite with all of these commissions in The news
- 0:06and buyers agent commission going away.
- 0:08A lot of agents are looking at their business and
- 0:09wondering is this sustainable?
- 0:11Is this way of life?
- 0:12Is my standard of living going to change with you know, all of these proposed
- 0:17changes and so on that's all part of it We don't really control a lot of that.
- 0:21You can control how you talk to your clients That's not
- 0:24what this video is about.
- 0:25This video today is about kind of a new trend I'm seeing that I'm ultimately
- 0:30really concerned about and it's agents getting a lending license of some sort
- 0:34whether that's a full blown lending license and doing loans as well as
- 0:38transactions or, you know, being this non producing partner that lenders are
- 0:43trying to, you know, blow up to agents and say you can make so much money
- 0:49and you're leaving money on the table.
- 0:50Well, there's a lot to go into that and I'm here to talk about that and
- 0:54tell you that if you are not extremely seasoned, extremely experienced,
- 0:59you could get yourself in a lot of trouble with this exact practice.
- 1:02So stay tuned.
- 1:08What's up guys, Jeremy Kane, the real estate agent playbook here helping you
- 1:11win every single day at the game of real estate as a real estate agent.
- 1:16And that's super important today as we talked a little bit about
- 1:19what we're going to go into.
- 1:20While you're here, like, comment, subscribe.
- 1:22Let's start some engagement.
- 1:23I would love to be of assistance to you, whether that's checking out my webinar,
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- 1:31Or just having a game plan call.
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- 1:35Let's connect but let's get into this one So what I see happening
- 1:40And you know, there's all kinds of different companies out there.
- 1:43I'm not going to name companies I'm not going to name names, but what's going on
- 1:46is there is a group of lenders who are You know with one company or another and they
- 1:52are out there telling real estate agents.
- 1:54Hey You know, your commission is going to be tight.
- 1:57The volume's down.
- 1:58This is a way for you to make more money and you don't have to do anything,
- 2:01but you know, maybe take a couple of classes and get your lending license
- 2:05and then we'll take it from there.
- 2:07You can send all of your, your people to us.
- 2:10We'll do the loans and you know, you'll get paid for it on the back end.
- 2:14And that's a massive red flag.
- 2:16And I'm here to tell you that if you are trying to come up in the real estate
- 2:19industry, certainly if you're looking into being a lender and want to do that,
- 2:23But if you're on the real estate agent train and you just think this is going
- 2:27to be a side hustle, a way for you to make more money, it honestly doesn't,
- 2:33doesn't really pan out because you're limiting yourself to, you know, you're
- 2:38putting more pressure on yourself with these initial meetings with clients,
- 2:42which if you're looking for an additional stream of income because you can't make
- 2:45enough money selling houses or you just want all the money in the world, Right.
- 2:50That's a possibility to the honest truth is you are doing your clients a
- 2:54disservice because you will be trying to funnel your clients into this one
- 2:58lending practice and all of that.
- 3:01And the truth is it's not super out there, right?
- 3:05I've even talked to lenders.
- 3:06They're like, Oh, you don't have to disclose.
- 3:08No, here's the deal.
- 3:09If you're making money off your client, off sending a referral to somebody.
- 3:12That probably needs to be disclosed.
- 3:14And so, you know, kickbacks and all of that, we can talk about this till
- 3:18we're blue in the face, the laws, this, the laws, that I don't care,
- 3:21but from an ethical perspective, if you are sending somebody somewhere
- 3:25and you're getting money from that.
- 3:26You should absolutely tell the person that you're trying to send there.
- 3:30And with that said, so this is really what's happening.
- 3:33They're saying you can be a non producing partner.
- 3:36You don't even have to get your full blown real estate lending license.
- 3:40You can be licensed in X amount of States and we can do this.
- 3:44And essentially.
- 3:45What the lender is wanting you to do is be their marketing director and drive
- 3:49a bunch of loans their way And they know if they get you signed up and in
- 3:53this program to get these kickbacks That you're going to be more likely to
- 3:56send them loans than you are already And the the hard part for me is the
- 4:02lenders that are out there doing this.
- 4:04They're spending so much time They're doing all their content tailored at this
- 4:07they're talking to you know Agents all over the place and kind of pitching this
- 4:11idea You But if they're, they're the ones that are building this kind of deal out,
- 4:17how much are they doing in the loan world?
- 4:19How many loans are they doing?
- 4:21And so that's really what it's about is, you know, certainly if you have a very
- 4:26best partner that you always know crushes deals, crushes loans, And you want to
- 4:31try and do this all more power to you.
- 4:33Talk to your managing broker.
- 4:35They'll tell you the rules i'm not here for that But i'm here to talk about
- 4:39your mindset as an agent And if you are pulling in this new, you know business
- 4:44venture It's taking away your energy from the other things you do, right?
- 4:49I talk to agents all of the time and agents that have agents in their
- 4:53organization or training agents in their brokerage Whatever it is And
- 4:56it's just like, you know, some agents do the work and some agents don't.
- 5:00Agents that do the work and show up every single day, they're
- 5:03going to move the needle forward.
- 5:05And if you are that person that's doing the work, why would you divide that?
- 5:09Right.
- 5:10Why would you divide that for some little kickback for some
- 5:12little split on the back end?
- 5:14And then what's it look like after that?
- 5:17Right.
- 5:17What does it look like when we put, You into this mix and you have this
- 5:22branch, you know, your non producing branch manager or whatever they're
- 5:25calling it You know, it's some version of that who is doing the loans.
- 5:30Is it the person that recruited you?
- 5:32Is it somebody that they just find that they stack under you that's willing
- 5:35to you know, give some of your money?
- 5:37Give some of their money to you as the non producing partner as a lead source.
- 5:41I just don't really fully understand that.
- 5:43And so this trend is something that caught my eye and that's why
- 5:46we're having this conversation.
- 5:49And like I've mentioned, there are a lot of things that
- 5:52come up when I think of this.
- 5:53The first is they're using you as a marketing beacon.
- 5:56Right.
- 5:56So this person who's building out this organization, however you want
- 6:01to call it, is out there telling you, okay, take these classes, get your
- 6:06license, you know, quote unquote, it's not a full blown lending license.
- 6:09I've heard it's not all the things you don't have to take
- 6:11the test, whatever it is, right.
- 6:13There's all kinds of versions.
- 6:15And then they're saying then if you send us loans, we'll do them.
- 6:18Well, who's doing the loans first and foremost, right?
- 6:21Because is it the person that's selling you that's out there splitting
- 6:24their time between building This organization and this residual
- 6:27income stream or is it somebody else?
- 6:30Where are the processors?
- 6:31Where are the underwriters?
- 6:32Who, who are the banks that they use?
- 6:34There's a lot more that goes into a lender's, you know, success than
- 6:38just, Hey, this is the scheme we got.
- 6:40This is what we got going.
- 6:41So that's the first.
- 6:43And then if they're focusing on these pitches and building this organization,
- 6:47How are they at servicing the client that you're sending to them, right?
- 6:51Keep in mind that the most awkward and tough conversation for the
- 6:56client, who is who we care about, right, is that with the lender.
- 7:01And so, if this lender is focused over here half the time and over here
- 7:05half the time, How are they doing?
- 7:07Are they, are they up to date on the market?
- 7:09There's a lot of things that a lender does that I don't want to do that
- 7:13I can't have the conversations to have because I don't have a license.
- 7:16And so if this lender is splitting their time, is that the service
- 7:19that you want to be passing down?
- 7:21I don't care if you're getting a kickback, right?
- 7:23There is no kickback if the loan doesn't get done.
- 7:26In time or, you know, you're putting your earnest money at risk or whatever.
- 7:30And I'm not saying all of these people that are building these are bad, but
- 7:33you just have to kind of sit back and think, I want somebody that I send my
- 7:37clients to, or, you know, give them a referral to be 100 percent in on lending.
- 7:43Certainly they're going to have their relationships.
- 7:45They're going to manage their relationships with other agents.
- 7:48I'm not saying I need to be the only one, but I am saying their
- 7:51number one focus needs to be.
- 7:53bettering their knowledge to help my clients, not me.
- 7:56And so now if we're out there and we kind of have this jack of all trades, right,
- 8:00this is why the big corporations haven't really taken a ton of market share.
- 8:05The ones that have, you know, we'll show you the house, we'll
- 8:08connect you to the lender.
- 8:09We'll, you know, get you to the, our title company, all of the things, those
- 8:12ones that have that all kind of in house.
- 8:14Certainly they're doing it.
- 8:16There's a perfect, you know, buy box for them.
- 8:18There's there's a perfect avatar that is using that piece But when
- 8:22you look at the overall market share, it's just not taking over.
- 8:25And so when we're looking at this and Talking about all of this If
- 8:32you are an agent splitting your own attention right to hey You can do this.
- 8:37You can use me as a lender.
- 8:38You can use me as an agent Or you can use me as both.
- 8:42There's some definite high level sales skills that are going to be needed in
- 8:46order to make sure, first of all, that client's giving everything they need,
- 8:50but it's all explained and disclosed and, and everything's kosher on that end.
- 8:55So that's my biggest concern, honestly, is just, are we really going to do this?
- 9:01Like, do we really just think that clients are going to fall out of the sky?
- 9:03Do we really think that we have one client?
- 9:06We need to make money off the lending and money off of the
- 9:09inspection and money off of the.
- 9:11All of these things that, you know, kickbacks could potentially get put into.
- 9:15If, if this model kind of takes off, no, right.
- 9:19Be good at what you are good at.
- 9:22If you want to be a lender, go be a lender.
- 9:24If you want to be an agent, go be an agent.
- 9:26There is.
- 9:27Very few people that can master multiple streams like this, especially
- 9:33when it comes to consumer behavior and what they're looking for.
- 9:36And so if you can be an expert in both and you can divide your
- 9:40time and you can absolutely do that, please go about doing that.
- 9:44However, if it's just, Oh, this side hustle, and this isn't people
- 9:48going to the top of the top.
- 9:50Certainly they're going to broker owners, team leads, producers.
- 9:54I get it.
- 9:54Right.
- 9:55I've heard the pitch several times.
- 9:56I'm not doing it.
- 9:57Right, but if you're look stepping back and looking at it Is this really
- 10:03what's best for your career for your energy for what's going on because I
- 10:07know Especially in our world of niching down and all the things and and the
- 10:12abundance mindset that can come If you're scarcity mindset working with
- 10:16one client and trying to get the maximum amount of dollar out of that client
- 10:20It's likely their experience will not be great in one or all of the things Right.
- 10:25I tell my new build people all the time because the builders are kind of set
- 10:28up like this Not necessarily the same kind of setup, but they have lenders.
- 10:32They have title.
- 10:33They have Sales reps all the things and I always tell my clients one part
- 10:38of the process of a new build sucks It's either the construction part.
- 10:42It's the loan part It's the closing and possession part,
- 10:45or it's the, warranty part.
- 10:47Same goes for this model as you go, you cannot be a master of all the things.
- 10:53And I get it.
- 10:54You don't have to be the master of the loan, but the person that
- 10:57you're, you know, the branch manager for certainly does, and you're kind
- 11:01of tied to that person and, and.
- 11:03If that person's taking some of their money, you know, in the
- 11:06broker world, the broker kind of controls that commission piece.
- 11:10But if they're taking the commission that's offered on the same
- 11:13house, the same loans, the same banks, whatever they're paying.
- 11:16Right, and now the branch, non producing branch manager, you has to
- 11:19get a piece, then the lenders getting less and you know what happens, right?
- 11:23All you lenders, love to jump around companies and do all the things.
- 11:26So, these are all red flags that I would certainly be looking out for if I decided
- 11:32to spend some of my time getting whatever type of licenses that they're pitching.
- 11:37And so, as we move forward, you say, Jeremy, well what do we do?
- 11:40Right, what do we do with the, or getting, you know, commission cut in half.
- 11:44I honestly am telling my hundred agents in 27 different states.
- 11:49To focus on your client experience the people that know like and trust you
- 11:53they've already signed up Make sure they are having the very best service
- 11:57And if there's not a lot of those people Because you're newer to the
- 12:01industry take your sphere and expand it.
- 12:04This is exactly what I talk about in my course You know, certainly
- 12:08I I've lived where I grew up.
- 12:10I went to high school here I moved up north an hour for college and
- 12:12came right back I get it, right?
- 12:15I have the sphere built in, but in my course, I go through exactly how to
- 12:18build a sphere, both systematically and strategically to make this a reality,
- 12:25to make your entire business model run almost on autopilot with people that
- 12:30already know like, and trust you that you do not have to, you know, get every
- 12:35single piece of the pie when it comes to their real estate transaction, I promise
- 12:39you that if you are providing white glove service and all of the things.
- 12:43Versus taking this one person and trying to get everything from it You will have a
- 12:47more lucrative payoff with just providing the absolute best value with what you're
- 12:52good at So if you want to talk about that, let's book a call And, you know, honestly,
- 12:57if you're watching this, you know, and you're a part of one of these or you're
- 13:01a lender or whatever, more power to you.
- 13:04Do what you're doing.
- 13:05However, I just want the agents to know that this is something
- 13:09that's coming their way.
- 13:10And, of course, you're selling them the dream.
- 13:12It looks great.
- 13:13It's, you don't have to get your license.
- 13:15You just do this.
- 13:16You do a couple classes.
- 13:17We'll take care of the rest.
- 13:18Just send us all your loans.
- 13:19And that's the part that makes me wonder, are you able to service the loans?
- 13:24Are you able to do those things?
- 13:26And if you are absolutely great, more power to you.
- 13:29It's just not something that I want to spend any of my time on.
- 13:32My time should be spent on servicing my clients.
- 13:35And what I'm doing so a little bit of a soapbox there.
- 13:38I'm just sick of hearing it It's it blows my mind that we can't focus on
- 13:42turning this one transaction into seven referrals for real estate business We
- 13:46need to turn this one transaction into you know, three or four or five income
- 13:50streams Just not my cup of tea like comment subscribe I hope this helps if
- 13:55you're seeing this out there and you have some comments below definitely
- 13:58do it I'd love to have a conversation.
- 13:59We'll see you next time