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- 0:00Speaker 1: My name's Tasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations woman
- 0:03Speaker 1: and I'm here to acknowledge country t Glenn Young Ganya
- 0:08Speaker 1: nianar Kaka yah y and beIN Ahaka nian our gay
- 0:11Speaker 1: In Mbini yakarum Jar, Dominyamka domaga Ithawaka woman, damon imlan
- 0:16Speaker 1: Bumba ban Gadabomba in and now in wakah ghan On
- 0:19Speaker 1: yak rum Jar water Nadaa. Hello, beautiful friends, we gather
- 0:24Speaker 1: on the lands of the Aboriginal people. We thank acknowledge
- 0:27Speaker 1: and respect the Aberiginal people's land that we're gathering on today.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Take pleasure in all the land and respect all that
- 0:33Speaker 1: you see. She's on the Money podcast acknowledges culture, country,
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- 0:45Speaker 2: She's on the Money. She's on the Money.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast
- 1:11Speaker 3: that makes personal finance fun especially get this on Fridays. WHOA,
- 1:16Speaker 3: we didn't see that coming. It's our favorite day of
- 1:18Speaker 3: the week because we get our little team together and
- 1:20Speaker 3: we celebrate you, our incredible She's on the Money Community
- 1:24Speaker 3: Muster GRICI. She's here as always sharing her money wins
- 1:27Speaker 3: and confessions. Beck is away, which is fine, but don't worry.
- 1:31Speaker 3: I have hustled up her broke tips to make sure
- 1:34Speaker 3: that I'm still sharing them on the show. For you guys,
- 1:36Speaker 3: we're going to be helping to answer money dilemma. That's
- 1:39Speaker 3: all about whether your money is better off in your
- 1:41Speaker 3: offset or in your shares account. And something you slid
- 1:45Speaker 3: into our dams about what do you do when you
- 1:47Speaker 3: think someone is lying about a parent's will? Ooh, that's spicy. Yeah,
- 1:55Speaker 3: how sometimes we're like, oh, the questions are spicy. No,
- 1:57Speaker 3: this week they're extra spicy because like awkward. Anyway, before
- 2:02Speaker 3: we get there, would you like to see a five
- 2:05Speaker 3: star review? Oh? Of course I would. This one is
- 2:08Speaker 3: from Lizzie and she says, I really enjoy the show's vibe.
- 2:12Speaker 3: That's so cute. Longtime listener of the show, and I've
- 2:15Speaker 3: been really enjoying the vibe of the three girls since
- 2:18Speaker 3: Beck came along. It feels like the show has found
- 2:21Speaker 3: its stride with three co hosts, and I'm really enjoying
- 2:24Speaker 3: the format. I love hearing Beck's perspective. She and Victoria
- 2:28Speaker 3: have great energy together, and I really like how Beck
- 2:30Speaker 3: represents the everyday person who might not have as much
- 2:33Speaker 3: financial knowledge. Really enjoyed the vibe of Friday episodes as well,
- 2:37Speaker 3: and hearing from the Three Ladies from She's on the Money,
- 2:40Speaker 3: keep up the great work, and please do some more
- 2:42Speaker 3: wedding and bridesmaid travel content. Please. Oh we'll far that
- 2:46Speaker 3: away for Leanna. We will. I feel like we need
- 2:48Speaker 3: to bring back the wedding era, but like, I'm not
- 2:50Speaker 3: going to have another wedding. I feel like so many
- 2:52Speaker 3: things in the industry have been changing, and like, what
- 2:55Speaker 3: is a budget wedding anymore? It feels like it doesn't exist.
- 2:58Speaker 3: Almost one of my friends is planning a wedding at
- 3:00Speaker 3: the moment, and she I would say, she has a
- 3:02Speaker 3: hefty budget, right, so like I'm not going to name names,
- 3:05Speaker 3: but her budget's about eighty thousand dollars. Oh wow, I
- 3:08Speaker 3: think that's a lot of money. That's a lot of money.
- 3:11Speaker 3: And the vendors are calling her wedding budget. Really yeah,
- 3:14Speaker 3: So she's like coming back to me like when they said, oh,
- 3:16Speaker 3: they'll do the budget, I was like, Queen, we have
- 3:18Speaker 3: a free budget spreadsheet on my website. Even downloaded it
- 3:21Speaker 3: and emailed it to her From my own website to
- 3:23Speaker 3: be like to do this, and like, because I'm such
- 3:25Speaker 3: a money fanatic and I love her, I'm like helping
- 3:28Speaker 3: along the way and thinking like, oh, well, this is
- 3:29Speaker 3: what we paid. All these are the quotes that we
- 3:31Speaker 3: got my quotes from like twenty twenty two. So whether
- 3:33Speaker 3: they are helpful or not, who knows, but it gives
- 3:35Speaker 3: you an idea. And like, anyway, she's showing me some
- 3:39Speaker 3: of the quotes that she's getting back, and like she's
- 3:41Speaker 3: sending off like, hey, we've got this venue, we want
- 3:43Speaker 3: some flowers, And like even the florist was like, oh,
- 3:45Speaker 3: well you're looking at it more of a budget spend. Wow,
- 3:49Speaker 3: what is is that?
- 3:50Speaker 4: Normal?
- 3:51Speaker 3: Mind boggling. I Like, don't get me wrong, I feel
- 3:54Speaker 3: like call a budget that shouldn't be offensive. No it's not.
- 3:58Speaker 3: But the way that their response as though they're too good.
- 4:01Speaker 3: They're like, oh, well you're sitting more as a budget client.
- 4:03Speaker 3: I'm like, eighty thousand dollars is so much money? Yeah,
- 4:06Speaker 3: and I mean that's not the floral's budget. But at
- 4:08Speaker 3: the same time, like, sorry, I'm giving you an amount,
- 4:11Speaker 3: which I think is actually the most reasonable way to
- 4:14Speaker 3: go about it, because like you could go and this
- 4:16Speaker 3: is just like so side noted, but you could go
- 4:18Speaker 3: and be like, well, I'm getting married, here's the venue.
- 4:21Speaker 3: Could you deck it out with flowers and tell me
- 4:23Speaker 3: what it will cost? And then they come back and go, well,
- 4:25Speaker 3: just that's going to be like fifteen thousand dollars and
- 4:27Speaker 3: you go, oh, well that's not in my budget. Yeah,
- 4:29Speaker 3: Like my friend is going to the vendors and saying, hey,
- 4:32Speaker 3: I have a budget of five thousand dollars for flowers,
- 4:35Speaker 3: could you tell me what you can do for that?
- 4:37Speaker 3: And I feel like that's really reasonable, like because then
- 4:40Speaker 3: you could say, well for that amount, we could xyz
- 4:43Speaker 3: ye or you might say, oh, we don't take on
- 4:45Speaker 3: clients at lab verbal. Okay, I still feel like that's
- 4:48Speaker 3: an examinant amount of money. But then also why make
- 4:51Speaker 3: comment I've heard.
- 4:52Speaker 5: The flowers are really expensive anecdotally anecdotally you also saw
- 4:57Speaker 5: my flowers invoice for my wedding. Yes, this is true,
- 5:00Speaker 5: and like I don't want people to compare themselves, but
- 5:04Speaker 5: like I spent a lot on flowers, and I would
- 5:06Speaker 5: I feel like so many times, like we're all going
- 5:09Speaker 5: on Pinterest and looking up our dream weddings and going well,
- 5:12Speaker 5: I've got an eighty thousand dollar wedding budget and that's massive,
- 5:14Speaker 5: don't get me wrong. But the weddings that you're seeing
- 5:17Speaker 5: on Pinterest are more than one hundred thousand dollars every
- 5:20Speaker 5: single time. Yeah, so we actually have to peg back
- 5:23Speaker 5: our expectations based on what the Pinterest reality is versus
- 5:27Speaker 5: in real life.
- 5:28Speaker 3: Absolutely, But anyway, that's a complete side note. Thank you
- 5:30Speaker 3: so much for that review, Lizzie. I love it. Also.
- 5:33Speaker 3: I love that she's like love Beck and we're like yep.
- 5:36Speaker 3: So she's not here today, Sorry about that. Sorry, she
- 5:39Speaker 3: will be back though. She's the people's printer. She absolutely is,
- 5:42Speaker 3: and I couldn't agree more. Anyway, it is time for
- 5:44Speaker 3: my favorite part and we'll speed through this. But tomorrow,
- 5:46Speaker 3: do not worry. I will make sure that I get
- 5:48Speaker 3: a full and comprehensive answer out of Jess. This is
- 5:51Speaker 3: the part of the show where you get to ask
- 5:53Speaker 3: us one question that you were dying to know. It
- 5:56Speaker 3: can be about literally anything, and tomorrow this week has
- 5:58Speaker 3: asked Jess, what is your dream holiday? Oh that's so hard.
- 6:03Speaker 3: Do you want to go first? Yep? I already know
- 6:05Speaker 3: I want to leave that hotel. I think it's in
- 6:07Speaker 3: South Africa where the giraffes put their head through the window. Oh,
- 6:11Speaker 3: I would love you what I'm talking about? Yes, and
- 6:14Speaker 3: you have breakfast and the giraffes are at the window. Yeah,
- 6:16Speaker 3: it's a wildlife preserve. Yeah sure it's not dodgy. Yeah,
- 6:19Speaker 3: it's like all of their animals have been rescued and
- 6:22Speaker 3: really well looked after. But you can have breakfast with
- 6:25Speaker 3: a giraffe. Yeah, that would be Sorry, that's my dream
- 6:28Speaker 3: holiday and I want my kids to be old enough
- 6:30Speaker 3: to remember it, so like I can't have it right
- 6:32Speaker 3: now because like if I took Toddler's that would not
- 6:35Speaker 3: be ideal. Then I going to remember. Sorry, you don't
- 6:38Speaker 3: deserve that experience yet.
- 6:39Speaker 5: For me, you need to be five plus years old
- 6:41Speaker 5: for it's got to become a core memory. What about you?
- 6:44Speaker 5: Are you coming with me? I would love to come
- 6:46Speaker 5: with you. You guys know I love to travel there.
- 6:49Speaker 5: I couldn't even just tell you one dream holiday.
- 6:51Speaker 3: There are so so, so.
- 6:53Speaker 5: So many places I would love to go, like everywhere,
- 6:55Speaker 5: from places close by like Thailand too.
- 6:57Speaker 3: I want to go to Antarctica. One day. When I
- 6:59Speaker 3: was young, I had this little goal. Look, I was
- 7:01Speaker 3: a huge guy.
- 7:02Speaker 5: I don't think I'll ever achieve it, but I was like,
- 7:03Speaker 5: I'd love to visit every country in the world.
- 7:05Speaker 3: Obviously very difficult to achieve.
- 7:07Speaker 5: Some of them you actually can't get too because there's
- 7:09Speaker 5: they're remote, so maybe not very practical.
- 7:11Speaker 3: But I love going new places.
- 7:13Speaker 5: I would like to do more of Europe I haven't
- 7:14Speaker 5: done much, Like I love being outdoors. I'd love to
- 7:17Speaker 5: do like the Swiss Alps and are beautiful. Yeah, like
- 7:22Speaker 5: all of those really scenic, beautiful places. But honestly, anywhere
- 7:27Speaker 5: I would be happy to put me on a plane
- 7:28Speaker 5: and send me literally anywhere, and I would be over
- 7:31Speaker 5: the moon.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Is there like a middle ground tour? Right? So like
- 7:34Speaker 3: when we were younger, Jess, I think that the like
- 7:36Speaker 3: top Deck and Kentiqui tours really appealed to us. Yeah,
- 7:39Speaker 3: we're like cool, single life, like it doesn't matter, happy
- 7:43Speaker 3: to be on a bus, happy to be in a hostel.
- 7:45Speaker 3: To do a few of those. Yeah, yeah, they're the same, same,
- 7:47Speaker 3: and I loved it at the time, but I cannot
- 7:49Speaker 3: imagine anything worse right now in this season of my life. Yeah,
- 7:53Speaker 3: and then on the flip side, there's like the older
- 7:55Speaker 3: you know, retiree tours above fifty fives. They go on
- 7:58Speaker 3: like the luxury tour buses and they stay at nice hotels.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Where's the middle ground? That's steady five year olds me
- 8:06Speaker 3: who love to travel, who love to travel but don't
- 8:09Speaker 3: want to do the like, happy to do budget accommodation,
- 8:11Speaker 3: but probably not hostel. We don't want to be on
- 8:14Speaker 3: a bus without air conditioning. We have maybe a little
- 8:17Speaker 3: bit more of a budget, but want the tour curated
- 8:21Speaker 3: for them? That is a great.
- 8:23Speaker 5: Question, actually, because also that your continues and top decks
- 8:26Speaker 5: cap out at I think about thirty five.
- 8:28Speaker 3: So if you're like if you get lead out when
- 8:30Speaker 3: you're too.
- 8:30Speaker 5: Old, yeah, like if you're slightly later in your thirties,
- 8:34Speaker 5: you like can't qualify for them anyway.
- 8:35Speaker 3: And I mean even if you could, as you, I
- 8:37Speaker 3: don't want to be on them. I can't do the
- 8:39Speaker 3: four days straight how over on a bus anymore? Like, Okay,
- 8:42Speaker 3: where are the people who want to get up at
- 8:43Speaker 3: six do the tour, go for the walks, you know,
- 8:46Speaker 3: get a coffee and a croissant, and we've got coffee
- 8:48Speaker 3: and croissant money this time. Yeah, and then we all
- 8:51Speaker 3: want to be back to our hotel by eight because
- 8:53Speaker 3: we all have really good books on our kindle that
- 8:55Speaker 3: we want to read.
- 8:56Speaker 6: That.
- 8:56Speaker 3: Literally, if anyone's got any tiads, let me know. I mean,
- 8:59Speaker 3: I'm not going on the mum and I'm married, but
- 9:01Speaker 3: like that, maybe I could get my husband to let
- 9:04Speaker 3: me go for a week or two. We would go,
- 9:05Speaker 3: wouldn't we, Jess? Literally, that sounds so fun. Maybe you
- 9:07Speaker 3: just go on a two row on our own. It'll
- 9:09Speaker 3: be fine. We'll make eron tour. We also want to
- 9:12Speaker 3: make more friends. Yeah, that's true. Anyway, let's move on,
- 9:15Speaker 3: miss Jess Gricci. What are your community money wins this week? Already?
- 9:18Speaker 3: This week?
- 9:19Speaker 5: First they've got one from Suzanne who said she just
- 9:21Speaker 5: fished house sitting for somebody and the owner gave her
- 9:24Speaker 5: an extra payment because they thought she was under charging.
- 9:27Speaker 3: Oh how good is that? I feel like that never happens.
- 9:29Speaker 3: I think that's really sweet as you have it in
- 9:31Speaker 3: your budget and you think that that's reasonable. What a
- 9:34Speaker 3: way to make somebody's week. Absolutely.
- 9:37Speaker 5: She also bought a bunch of peenies this morning and
- 9:39Speaker 5: went to pick one up from the display. One of
- 9:41Speaker 5: the stuff offered her a larger bunch at no extra cost,
- 9:43Speaker 5: which I thought was also very sweet adore and I you.
- 9:45Speaker 3: Do love a peenie.
- 9:47Speaker 5: Next, I've got a money win from Kim, who said
- 9:49Speaker 5: a bank erar worked in her favor. Their former mortgage
- 9:52Speaker 5: linder had not executed their instructions to link a second
- 9:55Speaker 5: offset and are making a remediation payment for interest for gone,
- 9:59Speaker 5: so they've got a nice little check coming their way.
- 10:01Speaker 5: Apparently the bank realized this on their own and sent
- 10:04Speaker 5: an email out which they originally thought was a scam,
- 10:06Speaker 5: but she verified it through the bank directly and it's
- 10:09Speaker 5: all kosher.
- 10:09Speaker 3: Oh love.
- 10:11Speaker 5: Next, I've got a money win from Debby, who said
- 10:13Speaker 5: she was overseas and had to change her flights. She
- 10:15Speaker 5: talked to the agent and I assume was very kind
- 10:17Speaker 5: about it, and the agent waived the change fees ah adoor,
- 10:21Speaker 5: which is really really good. We've done it before. Someone
- 10:24Speaker 5: at the Virgin Lounge helped us out and waved the
- 10:26Speaker 5: fees for us once, and honestly, when you're so stressed
- 10:29Speaker 5: and emotional, someone doing that for you makes such a
- 10:32Speaker 5: big difference. Then I've got a money win from Mim,
- 10:36Speaker 5: who said she's been patiently stalking Facebook marketplace the baby
- 10:39Speaker 5: stuff in prep for her impending arrival, and has gotten
- 10:42Speaker 5: some complete bargains. This week's score was a cot which
- 10:46Speaker 5: retailed for four hundred and fifty dollars that she snagged
- 10:49Speaker 5: for two hundred and fifty money wooding, the mattress, mattress protector,
- 10:54Speaker 5: and several hundred dollars worth of a Dare's cot bedding.
- 10:56Speaker 5: Oh stop her, she said, if you're bloody, don't mind.
- 10:59Speaker 5: And I say, good, you miminously.
- 11:02Speaker 3: And kids don't use it. Like, don't get me wrong, Yes,
- 11:05Speaker 3: you want nice quality stuff. And I did this with
- 11:08Speaker 3: my first baby, where I was like, oh, I'll buy
- 11:10Speaker 3: some stuff or marketplace because like I was trying to
- 11:12Speaker 3: just make sure that it was being reasonable with the
- 11:14Speaker 3: purchases I'm making. But then you're like, well I want
- 11:17Speaker 3: them to be brand new. Sorry. How many cock sheets
- 11:19Speaker 3: did I buy and I haven't used?
- 11:21Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 11:21Speaker 3: Like how many onesies did I buy? That then ultimately
- 11:24Speaker 3: got either one use or no uses because they grow
- 11:27Speaker 3: so quickly. You can find bundles online pop off queen
- 11:31Speaker 3: and you know what, and probably sell it again for
- 11:33Speaker 3: what you paid for it.
- 11:35Speaker 5: We love it a little circular economy moment. And then
- 11:38Speaker 5: lastly this week. I've got a money win from Wonder,
- 11:42Speaker 5: who said she realized she was regularly buying a sugar
- 11:44Speaker 5: free drink from vending machines, spending two dollars six feet
- 11:46Speaker 5: a time. Checked the cost of buying a carton of
- 11:49Speaker 5: cans at the supermarket and it's twenty one dollars for
- 11:51Speaker 5: twenty four cans. She said she now just needs to
- 11:53Speaker 5: figure out a way to defeat her ADHD brain to
- 11:56Speaker 5: ensure she can take the cans to work and she'll
- 11:58Speaker 5: be coming out way ahead.
- 12:00Speaker 3: Adore, adore, And I feel like that's such a smart
- 12:03Speaker 3: like swap. You're still getting your sweet tree. Yes, you're
- 12:06Speaker 3: just being a little bit smarter about it. And maybe
- 12:08Speaker 3: keep a stash at work, because there's no way I'd
- 12:10Speaker 3: remember every single day to bring my sweet treat. Yeah,
- 12:12Speaker 3: claims the room in the work freedge if you can, Yeah,
- 12:14Speaker 3: or like even keep a couple in the bottom of
- 12:16Speaker 3: your drawer so that you can like pop them in
- 12:18Speaker 3: the fridge or the like the freezer for an hour
- 12:20Speaker 3: before you have it. Yeah, I don't know. Would you
- 12:22Speaker 3: like bex broke tips? I hope I can do them justice.
- 12:25Speaker 5: Oh, of course, you need to bring the appropriate amount
- 12:27Speaker 5: of whimsy if possible.
- 12:28Speaker 3: All Right, I'm trying. I'm trying to channel my inner
- 12:30Speaker 3: cool girl. I fear I will never be as cool
- 12:33Speaker 3: as beck though, so please just just pretend for a
- 12:36Speaker 3: hot second, give me the benefit of the doubt, all right.
- 12:39Speaker 3: First one, this comes from her friend, and I say
- 12:41Speaker 3: friend just because they slid into her dams Anita. Everyone
- 12:44Speaker 3: at work was throwing their ten scent cans in the bin,
- 12:47Speaker 3: so I made a ten cent can box and I
- 12:50Speaker 3: collected all my coworkers' cans too. That's so clever.
- 12:53Speaker 5: I said before our old office that we should do
- 12:55Speaker 5: the same, because I always saw cans in the recycling
- 12:57Speaker 5: bin and I was like, that's free ten censors.
- 13:00Speaker 3: Honestly, put a bin beside the bin. People will use it,
- 13:04Speaker 3: take it home. Why not make the system work for you.
- 13:07Speaker 3: You don't have to work for the system, all right.
- 13:09Speaker 3: Next person who slid into Becks DMS this week was
- 13:12Speaker 3: a lessier, and she said, instead of paying a dollar
- 13:14Speaker 3: thirty to have one teaspoon of sour cream added to
- 13:17Speaker 3: your gig order, stop by Audi and get yourself a
- 13:21Speaker 3: three dollar small tub to use for the next ten meals.
- 13:23Speaker 3: I mean, the story tracks I can't keep that in
- 13:26Speaker 3: the center console of my Carlo, Babe, that is the
- 13:28Speaker 3: only problem. Yeah, I feel like one of the things
- 13:32Speaker 3: that I did the other day, and this wasn't at gig.
- 13:34Speaker 3: This was at Salsers, and I love a Salcer's burrito bowl.
- 13:38Speaker 3: I went for the other burrito bowl that had the
- 13:41Speaker 3: guoc and then removed a couple of things and it
- 13:44Speaker 3: ended up being cheaper than ordering the more simple bowl
- 13:47Speaker 3: and adding Guok. Oh, that's a good hack. I don't
- 13:50Speaker 3: know if it was a good hack, but like the
- 13:51Speaker 3: girl was probably like, why don't you just order the
- 13:54Speaker 3: other one? And I'm thinking, can you not see the savings, bab,
- 13:57Speaker 3: It's it cheaper exactly anyway? And so then Beck said
- 14:01Speaker 3: thee I need you to tell everybody stop buying individual
- 14:04Speaker 3: chicken pieces and learn how to break down a whole
- 14:06Speaker 3: chicken if you're able to. It's about nine dollars at
- 14:09Speaker 3: the supermarket for a two kilogram chicken, all the same
- 14:14Speaker 3: for two pieces. If you don't like cutting it down,
- 14:17Speaker 3: roast a whole one and then strip it after it's
- 14:19Speaker 3: been cooked.
- 14:20Speaker 5: That actually is a great point now that I'm thinking
- 14:23Speaker 5: about it, because you do pay a lot for like
- 14:24Speaker 5: a two pack of chicken breast.
- 14:26Speaker 3: One hundred percent, and I feel like you can just
- 14:29Speaker 3: embrace You're in a I don't know what is it
- 14:32Speaker 3: like wish, homestead, cottage, core vibe buying a whole chicken. Sorry,
- 14:37Speaker 3: you get two full chicken breasts, two chicken tenders, two
- 14:41Speaker 3: chicken drumsticks, two chicken wings. Sorry, that's like a number
- 14:44Speaker 3: of different meals. Absolutely, and you get the skim, which
- 14:47Speaker 3: is the best bit. Also, if you want to be
- 14:49Speaker 3: a little bit more sneaky, I think a whole roast
- 14:51Speaker 3: chicken is twelve dollars or so threty cooked for you
- 14:54Speaker 3: roast chicken or shoen it all up, use it in
- 14:56Speaker 3: your meals. Yeah, genius. Also find out in your supermarket
- 15:01Speaker 3: marks things down and then go get your five dollar chicken.
- 15:04Speaker 3: Hop it in a fridge. She's good for a few days.
- 15:06Speaker 3: All right, let's go to a break because I'd really
- 15:08Speaker 3: like chicken. But after the break, we're gonna have a
- 15:12Speaker 3: chat about whether it's better to put cash into your
- 15:14Speaker 3: offset or into your shares. And then we are also
- 15:17Speaker 3: chatting about something you slid into our DMS with. What
- 15:19Speaker 3: do you do when you think someone is lying about
- 15:21Speaker 3: your parents' will. Oh my gosh, Spicy, don't go anywhere.
- 15:29Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody. Let's take a listen to this week's
- 15:31Speaker 3: money dilemma.
- 15:34Speaker 4: Hi, there, have you got a money dilemma you just
- 15:36Speaker 4: can't solve? The She's on the Money team is here
- 15:39Speaker 4: to help. Every week we tackle your dilemmas, both big
- 15:42Speaker 4: and small, to answer your most burning money, career and
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- 15:50Speaker 4: just find yourself on the show. Now, let's take a
- 15:53Speaker 4: listen to this week's money dilemma.
- 15:57Speaker 6: Hi, She's on the Money. Thank you so much for
- 15:59Speaker 6: all of your episodes so far. I feel so much
- 16:02Speaker 6: more empowered around money. Thanks for listening to you guys.
- 16:04Speaker 6: It's such an accessible information port. I guess I just
- 16:07Speaker 6: have a question about shares.
- 16:09Speaker 3: So I have a.
- 16:09Speaker 6: Mortgage that is about eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
- 16:13Speaker 6: and we have an offset account which is about eighty
- 16:14Speaker 6: thousand dollars, and I don't know whether it's worth taking
- 16:18Speaker 6: some money out of that offset account to buy shares.
- 16:20Speaker 6: I'm quite risk averse in nature, so shar is kind
- 16:23Speaker 6: of scammy but I also like want to do what's
- 16:26Speaker 6: best for us financially for sort of long term wealth,
- 16:29Speaker 6: So I don't know if it's better to just put
- 16:31Speaker 6: a portion of that into shares or just keep it
- 16:33Speaker 6: all in the offset account.
- 16:34Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Oh my gosh, do you sound
- 16:36Speaker 3: so happy and joyful and we're talking about money. When
- 16:40Speaker 3: did we think those two things will be married together? Literally? Never?
- 16:43Speaker 3: That's a great question. All right, Jess, you've got a mortgage,
- 16:46Speaker 3: ha ha, tell me shares or mortgage?
- 16:50Speaker 5: Well right now, because we're in the process of the build,
- 16:52Speaker 5: I'm not paying like a full mortgage, so I pretend yes,
- 16:57Speaker 5: okay for me, I put my emergency fund and like
- 17:00Speaker 5: access funds into my offsets, so like any bulk money,
- 17:04Speaker 5: money that I might need quick access to, and then
- 17:07Speaker 5: I have a set amount that I invest every month.
- 17:09Speaker 5: If I was our listener and I had eighty thousand
- 17:11Speaker 5: sitting in my offset, I would be comparing, as I
- 17:14Speaker 5: always say.
- 17:14Speaker 3: Compare what your mortgage rate is.
- 17:16Speaker 5: Whatever your rate is, have a look at that, have
- 17:18Speaker 5: a look at how much you're saving by having your
- 17:20Speaker 5: money in the offset account. Cross reference that with what
- 17:24Speaker 5: you could potentially be earning in a share market. Obviously,
- 17:27Speaker 5: you said you're very risk adverse, so keep in mind
- 17:29Speaker 5: that you are taking on risk with the share market.
- 17:32Speaker 5: We know the average rate of return over VD. You
- 17:35Speaker 5: do the thing, you're so much better than me.
- 17:37Speaker 3: No, no, no, It's one of those things where it's
- 17:39Speaker 3: up to you and it's up to your personal circumstances.
- 17:42Speaker 3: But I can't give you advice. What I can do
- 17:44Speaker 3: is explain what I do. So I have a mortgage,
- 17:47Speaker 3: I also have shares, and I have worked out that
- 17:51Speaker 3: my mortgage is sitting just above four percent on average
- 17:55Speaker 3: over the last you know, however long, it's performing at
- 17:57Speaker 3: more than eleven percent. So if I had a and
- 18:00Speaker 3: I wanted to make it work as hard as I
- 18:02Speaker 3: did for it, the best place for it in my
- 18:05Speaker 3: personal circumstances is sitting in a share account. People will
- 18:10Speaker 3: counter that and say, no, I want to smash off
- 18:12Speaker 3: my debt really quickly, Victoria and get rid of that
- 18:14Speaker 3: because I don't want to have that, and then I'll
- 18:16Speaker 3: aggressively invest. For me, that strategy doesn't work because I
- 18:20Speaker 3: would prefer to have my debt literally until the day
- 18:24Speaker 3: I retire and hold more debt for longer while I
- 18:27Speaker 3: have another asset that's actually worth way more so that
- 18:31Speaker 3: when I retire, I retire with no debt and a
- 18:33Speaker 3: big share portfolio. Because we know that the most important
- 18:37Speaker 3: thing for your money is time in the market. So
- 18:40Speaker 3: like a dollar today invested is worth to me a
- 18:43Speaker 3: lot more than a dollar invested in twenty years once
- 18:46Speaker 3: my mortgage is gone, because that's twenty years that dollar
- 18:49Speaker 3: hasn't had in the market to work. So for me,
- 18:51Speaker 3: that works out. On the flip side, you need to
- 18:54Speaker 3: work out what's of value to you if you are
- 18:57Speaker 3: a very high marginal time tax rates. So like you
- 19:00Speaker 3: earn a lot of money and you know you're paying
- 19:03Speaker 3: like almost half of your income to the tax man.
- 19:06Speaker 3: One of the benefits of an offset account is it
- 19:09Speaker 3: offsets the interest that is payable, so there's no tax
- 19:14Speaker 3: there because you're only saving money. So yes, you're offsetting
- 19:18Speaker 3: four and a half percent or five percent or whatever
- 19:20Speaker 3: your mortgage is today, but you also aren't getting charged
- 19:24Speaker 3: for that privilege. Whereas if I make five percent in
- 19:28Speaker 3: the share market, I'm going to be taxed on that income. YEA,
- 19:32Speaker 3: to me, is that bad? No? Because I'm actually still
- 19:36Speaker 3: taking into consideration tax I'm still ahead in my share portfolio.
- 19:41Speaker 3: So for me personally, you know, we have money in
- 19:44Speaker 3: our offset. My husband and I have a number of offsets.
- 19:46Speaker 3: We have our cash hub, so both of our incomes
- 19:50Speaker 3: go into an offset account together and that's where all
- 19:53Speaker 3: of our money just sits for the interrom like you know,
- 19:56Speaker 3: our grocery money and stuff that we haven't pre allocated.
- 20:00Speaker 3: Then have another offset account, which is a savings account,
- 20:03Speaker 3: which is just like savings for things like if we're
- 20:05Speaker 3: going on a holiday, or if we're making family plans
- 20:08Speaker 3: or something like, we can allocate stuff to their. We've
- 20:10Speaker 3: got our emergency fund, which is another offset account because
- 20:13Speaker 3: you should never ever ever invest your emergency fund, no
- 20:16Speaker 3: matter how tempting. So that cash is sitting there offsetting
- 20:18Speaker 3: our mortgage. And then both of our food, fuel and
- 20:21Speaker 3: fun accounts, which I've spoken about before, and if you've
- 20:23Speaker 3: done the Money masterclass, you know what I'm talking about.
- 20:25Speaker 3: Both of our food, fuel, and fun accounts are also
- 20:28Speaker 3: offset accounts that we can spend from our will like
- 20:31Speaker 3: however we want. So the money that we have is
- 20:35Speaker 3: absolutely or offsetting our mortgage because like your dollars should
- 20:39Speaker 3: be working for you, or that's how I see it.
- 20:41Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 20:41Speaker 3: But then out of that cash hub that I was
- 20:43Speaker 3: telling you about, we have a direct debit that goes
- 20:46Speaker 3: into my investment account. And so every single time that
- 20:49Speaker 3: we get paid, everything filters in. Our emergency fund gets
- 20:53Speaker 3: topped up if it needs to, our savings get topped up.
- 20:55Speaker 3: We transfer our money to our food fuel and fund,
- 20:57Speaker 3: and we also transfer our money out to our investing platform.
- 21:01Speaker 3: So for me, that works the best, and it means
- 21:04Speaker 3: that every dollar is working really hard. But in the
- 21:07Speaker 3: long term, I'm better off than smashing down the mortgage
- 21:10Speaker 3: as much as possible, even though I don't really like
- 21:13Speaker 3: looking at my mortgage. I seek yeah, and I understand
- 21:17Speaker 3: as well.
- 21:18Speaker 5: When you look at the amount of money you pay
- 21:21Speaker 5: over the term of your mortgage, like I know that
- 21:23Speaker 5: you go, oh, well, my mortgage is for seven hundred thousand,
- 21:26Speaker 5: but then over the court of like the mortgage, I
- 21:28Speaker 5: pay one million. Yeah, correct, Like I totally get that that.
- 21:33Speaker 5: Psychologically you look at that and go, well, I want
- 21:36Speaker 5: to pay it down. I don't want to pay that,
- 21:37Speaker 5: And that is also okay if that's like what is
- 21:40Speaker 5: most in line with your values and your risk profile,
- 21:42Speaker 5: because you say.
- 21:43Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Because sometimes the thing that you make
- 21:46Speaker 3: the decision on isn't because the money is going to
- 21:48Speaker 3: be the most It's because it makes you feel most comfortable. Yeah,
- 21:50Speaker 3: and that's worth considering too. It's yeah, no, absolutely, and
- 21:53Speaker 3: if that makes you really comfy. But another way to
- 21:55Speaker 3: put it is, Jesse, if you came into fifty thousand
- 21:57Speaker 3: dollars today, Like, let's pretend you for a got your
- 22:00Speaker 3: emergency funds sorted, and like you have a mortgage, and
- 22:03Speaker 3: you also have an investing account, and we are just
- 22:05Speaker 3: looking at purely, how does this fifty like you don't
- 22:08Speaker 3: need it for anything? Ye, Like you know, I'm not
- 22:10Speaker 3: saying what would you spend it on. It's like, you know,
- 22:12Speaker 3: this open ended thing we're picking. You've got fifty grand,
- 22:15Speaker 3: it either goes on your mortgage or it goes in
- 22:16Speaker 3: your investment. Your investment is going to return you more
- 22:19Speaker 3: money over the long term, and putting it on your mortgage,
- 22:23Speaker 3: So do with that information what you will. And I
- 22:25Speaker 3: think it's all about comfort, So do your research, work
- 22:27Speaker 3: out what's going on. But like, I have a lot
- 22:30Speaker 3: of peace knowing that one my money is compounding in
- 22:34Speaker 3: the share market and I'm making money and go, I'm
- 22:37Speaker 3: going to retire a millionaire. I'm going to retire a multimillionaire,
- 22:40Speaker 3: and I'm very excited about that, and I want to
- 22:42Speaker 3: talk this year more about that side of it, because
- 22:45Speaker 3: I think I've shared a lot. But I also shy
- 22:48Speaker 3: away from being like, oh, it looks like this for
- 22:50Speaker 3: me because I'm like, oh, it's not that relatable. I
- 22:53Speaker 3: am relatable. I promise like I've come from nothing. I
- 22:57Speaker 3: came from forty thousand dollars in debt to creating this,
- 23:00Speaker 3: and that's insane. But if it's not relatable to you,
- 23:03Speaker 3: that's okay. Let's use it as aspirational. And I really
- 23:05Speaker 3: want to share those things so you can be motivated
- 23:07Speaker 3: to change your own life. Yeah. But I look at
- 23:09Speaker 3: it and I go, all right, well, if I was
- 23:12Speaker 3: in that position, this is what I would do. And
- 23:15Speaker 3: I have a lot of peace knowing that my share
- 23:17Speaker 3: portfolio could pay off my mortgage tomorrow. I'm not going
- 23:20Speaker 3: to do that, though, because I want to create wealth,
- 23:23Speaker 3: and so I'm happy for my mortgage to tick along
- 23:25Speaker 3: in the background, because like, sometimes debt can mean that
- 23:29Speaker 3: we're ahead financially, yeah, just not personal debt. Yeah, I
- 23:32Speaker 3: can promise your credit card isn't getting you ahead, Garrett?
- 23:35Speaker 3: Do you want to get into the spicy stuff?
- 23:37Speaker 6: Please?
- 23:38Speaker 3: So on the stories I posted this DM that I got. Hey,
- 23:41Speaker 3: she's on the money. My father in law passed away
- 23:43Speaker 3: suddenly and his partner is handling everything. She's always been
- 23:47Speaker 3: terrible with money. We've even had debt collectors call us
- 23:50Speaker 3: looking for her. Now. She claims he didn't have a will,
- 23:54Speaker 3: but a few months ago she asked us to sign
- 23:56Speaker 3: as executors for her will, and we believed she was
- 24:00Speaker 3: getting it in line with my father in laws. We
- 24:03Speaker 3: think she's trying to keep everything for herself. There's probably
- 24:06Speaker 3: no cash, honestly, just his tools and a few assets
- 24:09Speaker 3: my husband would love to keep. She's now asking us
- 24:12Speaker 3: to pay fifteen hundred dollars each towards his cremation. It's
- 24:15Speaker 3: one of those things that we have the money in
- 24:17Speaker 3: an emergency fund for and don't really feel like we
- 24:20Speaker 3: can say no to. Should we contribute, knowing her history
- 24:24Speaker 3: and that the money may not even go where it's intended.
- 24:27Speaker 3: I'm just scared that this will just be the start.
- 24:30Speaker 3: Please help. Oh, I'm so sorry.
- 24:32Speaker 5: I feel lost, and also apparently I'm willfully naive because
- 24:36Speaker 5: I had no idea.
- 24:37Speaker 3: It costs that much money to create somebody. It's thousands
- 24:39Speaker 3: of dollars on average, I would say, And people are
- 24:42Speaker 3: probably going to be like, oh, ours was cheaper or
- 24:44Speaker 3: whatever it is, but your average funeral is going to
- 24:47Speaker 3: cost ten thousand dollars. I'd say, I had no idea,
- 24:50Speaker 3: and like the frustrating thing about that, and it's really like, unfortunately,
- 24:54Speaker 3: I have a lot of experience in this space, having
- 24:56Speaker 3: worked in financial advice and worked a lot in the
- 24:59Speaker 3: inheritance space. Often that's lumped on you before you can
- 25:02Speaker 3: access their trusts, like before you can access their superannuation
- 25:06Speaker 3: or their savings account. When someone passes away, more often
- 25:09Speaker 3: than not, their bank accounts get locked up until there
- 25:12Speaker 3: is a resolution, until they know where that money is
- 25:14Speaker 3: meant to go. You can't just dip into someone else's account,
- 25:17Speaker 3: Like if you know someone passed away and that was
- 25:20Speaker 3: really close to you, Jess, you can't just go and
- 25:22Speaker 3: get their debit card and be like put it on this. Yeah,
- 25:25Speaker 3: So you usually have to find the funds and then
- 25:27Speaker 3: they can be replenished later from their estate. Yeap, where
- 25:31Speaker 3: are you getting that? Yeah, that's crazy. It can be
- 25:34Speaker 3: so financially frustrating.
- 25:36Speaker 5: Yeah, we've done an episode before on wills and why
- 25:38Speaker 5: they're so important. I think this is a really great
- 25:40Speaker 5: example of why. If there is not a will in place,
- 25:43Speaker 5: the assets or any money or anything that was owned
- 25:47Speaker 5: by your father in law will be distributed based on
- 25:50Speaker 5: like a standardized determination of.
- 25:53Speaker 3: Where it goes. Is it spouse verst I'm not sure,
- 25:55Speaker 3: do you know? It really depends on what the courts think.
- 25:59Speaker 3: So if you do not have a will, it automatically
- 26:01Speaker 3: goes through the legal system, which can take a minimum
- 26:03Speaker 3: of twelve months to be distributed, even longer if there
- 26:06Speaker 3: are debates around who should get what, and someone puts
- 26:09Speaker 3: their hand up and says, well, I want X or
- 26:11Speaker 3: I want why. More often than not, yes, you're saying
- 26:14Speaker 3: there's no cash, but there will be just stuff to
- 26:16Speaker 3: sort out. So he might not have a really big
- 26:19Speaker 3: savings account, but he probably has super. Whether there's five
- 26:22Speaker 3: thousand dollars in that super or five hundred thousand dollars,
- 26:25Speaker 3: it's the same process. And unfortunately what gets DIBs is
- 26:30Speaker 3: his personal debts first. So if he has a credit
- 26:33Speaker 3: card that needs to be paid out, that gets paid
- 26:35Speaker 3: out before the quote estate. So when I talk about
- 26:37Speaker 3: the estate, I'm talking about everything that individual owned, from
- 26:41Speaker 3: their shoes to their superannuation, because it goes, well, this
- 26:44Speaker 3: is Jessica's a state, this is all her stuff, and
- 26:48Speaker 3: that distribution will go towards paying debts. First debts, like
- 26:52Speaker 3: if he doesn't have enough cash to pay off his debts,
- 26:54Speaker 3: that doesn't transfer to you. In Australia, which is really lucky.
- 26:57Speaker 3: It'll just be like, okay, well we have to wipe
- 26:59Speaker 3: that slate clean, can't pay it back. But all of
- 27:02Speaker 3: those things need to be considered and then there'll be
- 27:04Speaker 3: a lump sum at the end. And usually dependents come first,
- 27:08Speaker 3: so if they're married, yes, it will probably be there.
- 27:11Speaker 3: But you can always put in a counter argument to say, well,
- 27:14Speaker 3: actually I really want my dad's tools or this or that.
- 27:18Speaker 3: More often than not, when it comes to physical stuff
- 27:21Speaker 3: like tools, it's a family negotiation. So you kind of
- 27:24Speaker 3: just do the important stuff through the legal system like
- 27:27Speaker 3: subernuation or his credit cards or you know, his bank,
- 27:30Speaker 3: and then you'll be like, did you want to take
- 27:31Speaker 3: Dud's tools? No worries, like the government doesn't know about that,
- 27:35Speaker 3: so you kind of just do it at will. Yeah,
- 27:37Speaker 3: but it becomes a point of contention if someone's like, well,
- 27:40Speaker 3: I wanted to sell them, and then they might try
- 27:43Speaker 3: and bring it up as a part of the estate.
- 27:45Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I see, I will just preverse with what
- 27:48Speaker 5: I'm about to say that this. I'm only saying this
- 27:50Speaker 5: because our listener has said that they think that the.
- 27:53Speaker 3: Isn't being truthful. Correct.
- 27:55Speaker 5: Yes, so I would this be normally what I would
- 27:57Speaker 5: say for a grieving widow.
- 27:58Speaker 3: No, do you know what? It can be really confronting though,
- 28:02Speaker 3: Like unfortunately, when stuff like this happens, we have to
- 28:04Speaker 3: have some pretty confronting conversations sometimes when you're not ready
- 28:08Speaker 3: for it.
- 28:09Speaker 5: Yeah, So what I personally would do is I mean, obviously,
- 28:14Speaker 5: I think you would be happy to contribute if that's
- 28:16Speaker 5: what it takes to get it done, to do the
- 28:18Speaker 5: funeral or the cremation or whatever it is in a
- 28:21Speaker 5: way that you feel honors the wishes of your father
- 28:24Speaker 5: in law. What that looks like, The semantics of that,
- 28:27Speaker 5: the cost of that is going to be so specific
- 28:28Speaker 5: to you. So maybe do a little bit of research
- 28:31Speaker 5: on your own and figure that out so you know
- 28:32Speaker 5: that financially, what she's asking for stacks up with what's
- 28:37Speaker 5: going to be done, And then I probably would say
- 28:39Speaker 5: something like really happy to come over and write a check.
- 28:43Speaker 5: And I know that's random because you right to check
- 28:45Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five, but I say that as something
- 28:47Speaker 5: physical so that it gives you a reason to go
- 28:51Speaker 5: see her, go to the house or go to wherever
- 28:53Speaker 5: the stuff is, and say, while we're here, we'd really
- 28:55Speaker 5: love to chat about like a few things that my
- 28:58Speaker 5: partner would love to you know, keep to remember him
- 29:01Speaker 5: by something like that, can we go through everything together?
- 29:03Speaker 5: Can we do the clean out together? There's this whole
- 29:05Speaker 5: thing of Swedish death cleaning, like apparently that's like cleaning
- 29:08Speaker 5: out the physical stuff can be a big burden on
- 29:10Speaker 5: people who are left behind. So it's also maybe nice
- 29:12Speaker 5: to offer that assistance to her In that way, it
- 29:15Speaker 5: gives you a chance to have a bit of visibility,
- 29:18Speaker 5: hopefully over what was left behind. But I would be
- 29:21Speaker 5: trying to find a way to like get into their
- 29:24Speaker 5: home or get into their space without trying to be
- 29:26Speaker 5: too invasive, but to then have an opportunity to say, hey,
- 29:29Speaker 5: what are we going to do with all these things?
- 29:31Speaker 5: There are some things that we'd really like to keep
- 29:32Speaker 5: for sentimentality, or are there things that we can sell
- 29:35Speaker 5: to help cover these costs, or what does that look
- 29:38Speaker 5: like so that there is a hopefully somewhat equitable distribution
- 29:42Speaker 5: of those whatever those physical assets are. The other alternative,
- 29:46Speaker 5: if you can't get in there and do that, is
- 29:48Speaker 5: I would say, can you maybe make the payments for
- 29:53Speaker 5: the cremation or the funeral or whatever directly to ensure
- 29:57Speaker 5: that the money is being used for that that something
- 30:00Speaker 5: that you're worried about, you.
- 30:02Speaker 3: Know, having worked in the space, having unfortunately in the
- 30:05Speaker 3: last twelve months, had to guide a friend through this
- 30:07Speaker 3: for her younger sister. Cremations can't be doy no, so
- 30:13Speaker 3: it actually has to be done through a registered funeral home. Amazing.
- 30:17Speaker 3: So I just I'm going to call the funeral home.
- 30:19Speaker 3: Yeah cool? Where's your going? The Pine? No worries, I'm
- 30:21Speaker 3: going to call up the Pine.
- 30:22Speaker 6: Hi.
- 30:22Speaker 3: I'm you know XYZ's daughter. I've been asked to contribute
- 30:26Speaker 3: to the cremation. Could you just give me an invoice
- 30:28Speaker 3: of what it is. There's four of us, we're going
- 30:30Speaker 3: to be splitting the cost evenly. Could you just tell
- 30:32Speaker 3: me what I owe you and I'll pay you directly. Yeah,
- 30:35Speaker 3: no worries. Thanks Cheryl or whoever it is. I've actually
- 30:37Speaker 3: called the funeral home. I know you said it was
- 30:39Speaker 3: fifteen hundred. They actually said it was eight hundred per person.
- 30:42Speaker 3: I'm just confused. Did you build in like some flowers
- 30:45Speaker 3: or something. Is that the full funeral cost? Like, I'll
- 30:48Speaker 3: call them back, I'll ask like some more questions. Yeah,
- 30:51Speaker 3: but like nothing is stopping you from calling up. They
- 30:54Speaker 3: might go, oh, I can't talk to you about this,
- 30:56Speaker 3: this or this, but like I'm telling you right now,
- 30:59Speaker 3: if that person is not telling the truth, and you
- 31:01Speaker 3: call up the pine and they go, oh, we're just
- 31:02Speaker 3: dealing with the wife at the moment, go okay, no worries,
- 31:05Speaker 3: but could you tell the wife that I've called because
- 31:07Speaker 3: I'm very happy to make the contribution, but I want
- 31:10Speaker 3: to make it directly. Yeah, and they're going to go,
- 31:12Speaker 3: we want to get paid, no worries, Like and you
- 31:14Speaker 3: know what, this is awful again, And anyone who works
- 31:17Speaker 3: in this space will know families are thickle. Like families
- 31:22Speaker 3: are so challenging to work with. Sometimes there's dream families
- 31:25Speaker 3: and everyone's on the same page, but there's always an
- 31:28Speaker 3: ex wife or a daughter who wants something different or
- 31:30Speaker 3: someone who wants X, Y or Z done under a
- 31:34Speaker 3: certain you know, time schedule, and that's just not there.
- 31:37Speaker 3: Sometimes you want the person embalmed and then someone else
- 31:39Speaker 3: doesn't want that. Like there's conflict at every corner and
- 31:43Speaker 3: it can be exhausting. But like to me, I'm sorry
- 31:46Speaker 3: right now, that's really sad. You don't need the drama.
- 31:49Speaker 3: Just go direct to the source. But hey, is there
- 31:52Speaker 3: anything else that I can do? You know, did you
- 31:55Speaker 3: have any outstanding questions from this person, Because if they're
- 31:59Speaker 3: a good person and they're doing the right thing, they're
- 32:01Speaker 3: not got to mind that you called about your father
- 32:03Speaker 3: in law, yeah, or your husband called about his dad.
- 32:07Speaker 3: It's family. It's family. Sorry, if something happened to my
- 32:10Speaker 3: dad and for some reason, like I'm very lucky my
- 32:13Speaker 3: parents are still together, but there was another person on
- 32:15Speaker 3: the Sorry, I'm going straight to the source. That's my dad. Yeah,
- 32:19Speaker 3: I want to know what's going on. So I would
- 32:22Speaker 3: put my foot down in that aspect. As for stuff,
- 32:26Speaker 3: you can definitely argue that whether that is through an
- 32:29Speaker 3: estate planner, if he has no will, I would be
- 32:32Speaker 3: diving a little bit deeper and saying no, we know
- 32:35Speaker 3: he had a will, or saying my dad told me
- 32:37Speaker 3: he had a will, Let's go find it was lodged somewhere.
- 32:40Speaker 3: Was it officially done at some point? You might be
- 32:42Speaker 3: able to get into his emails and find some correspondence
- 32:45Speaker 3: with an estate planning lawyer or somebody who helped that,
- 32:48Speaker 3: because more often than not, if you do a will,
- 32:50Speaker 3: it's not on the back of a receipt. Yeah, there
- 32:52Speaker 3: will be evidence of it somewhere. You need to look
- 32:55Speaker 3: into that. Does he have a lock box, does he
- 32:58Speaker 3: have somebody that he has nominated add his medical or
- 33:01Speaker 3: personal power of attorney? How was that documented? So I'm
- 33:05Speaker 3: perving through their stuff. I'm finding that information myself. If not,
- 33:09Speaker 3: I am looking it up. Yeah, do you know what
- 33:11Speaker 3: I mean? And this is the point where you might
- 33:14Speaker 3: want some professional help, because we can feel about uncomfed. Yeah,
- 33:18Speaker 3: and you can reach out to a good like a
- 33:20Speaker 3: state planning lawyer and just be like, hey, what direction
- 33:22Speaker 3: do I need to go in and they will be
- 33:24Speaker 3: able to direct you because again it's really complicated and
- 33:27Speaker 3: it varies state on state. So what we do here
- 33:30Speaker 3: in Victoria is not the process in Queensland. Yeah, and
- 33:33Speaker 3: that's really frustrating. So I can't give you any further advice.
- 33:35Speaker 3: But also, I'm not a lawyer, go talk to one totally.
- 33:39Speaker 3: What did everybody else say?
- 33:40Speaker 6: Right?
- 33:40Speaker 3: So, first thing I did was ask a few questions.
- 33:42Speaker 3: First question, I said, well, what would you guys do
- 33:44Speaker 3: in this situation? Sixty two percent said, pay only when
- 33:47Speaker 3: the costs are proven, thirty two percent said I'll be
- 33:50Speaker 3: lawyering up, and six percent said I'm just paying. I'm
- 33:53Speaker 3: keeping the peace. Yeah, understandable for me. It's not just
- 33:56Speaker 3: about keeping the peace. You have my fifteen hundred dollars,
- 34:00Speaker 3: but like, this is clearly a small part of a
- 34:02Speaker 3: bigger picture. Yeah, let's just make sure that we stamp
- 34:05Speaker 3: it out from the beginning. Yeah. I then asked, have
- 34:07Speaker 3: you ever had family drama dealing with a loved one's estate.
- 34:11Speaker 3: Fifty four percent of you, thankfully have said I've never
- 34:14Speaker 3: been in this situation. But then twenty eight percent of
- 34:17Speaker 3: you said, yep, and it got messy, ten percent said no,
- 34:20Speaker 3: it went well, thankfully, and eight percent said we had
- 34:23Speaker 3: a few disagreements. Yeah. So between all of that, we
- 34:27Speaker 3: take out our fifty four percent most people dealing with
- 34:31Speaker 3: these situations have it get messy? Yeah, I've had some
- 34:34Speaker 3: level of conflict. Yeah, will is so important, and just
- 34:38Speaker 3: get your stuff together anyway. I then said, all right, guys,
- 34:41Speaker 3: two cents give it to me. First person said, family
- 34:44Speaker 3: and finances is never straightforward. Pay to say goodbye and
- 34:47Speaker 3: then tackle the will later. Next person said, same page
- 34:51Speaker 3: as me. Pay directly to the funeral home. Remove the
- 34:53Speaker 3: middle person and cash going into her hands if she's
- 34:56Speaker 3: not trustworthy. Next person said, the will's going to have
- 34:59Speaker 3: been lodged, so if he has one, a solicitor should
- 35:01Speaker 3: be able to find it on the database. Yeah. Next
- 35:04Speaker 3: person said, as a wills and estate planning lawyer, I'm sorry,
- 35:08Speaker 3: thank you're perfect to slide into our dams. Please go
- 35:11Speaker 3: and get some advice about your rights for sure. I
- 35:13Speaker 3: have a two parter. Okay, Money and family is tricky,
- 35:17Speaker 3: especially when there are other factors impacting the situation. I
- 35:21Speaker 3: now no longer speak to my mother since the mess
- 35:23Speaker 3: that was sorting up my dad's estate. Oh that's really
- 35:26Speaker 3: and this is the thing breaking. It's so awful. And
- 35:29Speaker 3: totally understand that you're emotional. She's emotional. There's obviously history there.
- 35:33Speaker 5: That we do, but it's where possible try and look
- 35:38Speaker 5: at it all through a lens of grace because everyone's
- 35:40Speaker 5: dealing with the emotional loss of a loved one, and
- 35:43Speaker 5: that makes things so much more heightened, so much more complex,
- 35:46Speaker 5: so much just more challenging.
- 35:47Speaker 3: Your damn will. Yeah well yes, yeah, next person said,
- 35:51Speaker 3: three years in and my dad's estate is still not
- 35:54Speaker 3: finalized due to a big family feud. And guess what,
- 35:57Speaker 3: I'm the executor. Oh wow, So with all of this,
- 36:00Speaker 3: I've got two more. Someone else said, you guys like,
- 36:03Speaker 3: it's so funny when we post these things. It was
- 36:05Speaker 3: like people come out of the woodwork like professionals in
- 36:09Speaker 3: the perfect space. So this is the second person actually
- 36:12Speaker 3: work in wills and estates. Death brings out the greed
- 36:14Speaker 3: in people. I mean, yeah, I could see that being
- 36:17Speaker 3: true for sure. And then lucky last, we've got always
- 36:21Speaker 3: make sure you have an up to date will and
- 36:23Speaker 3: have these conversations with your loved ones so that this
- 36:26Speaker 3: doesn't happen in your family. I mean, that's the perfect summary.
- 36:29Speaker 3: That would be the perfect summary. But I am wildly
- 36:31Speaker 3: passionate about wills and estate planning. If you need a recommendation,
- 36:35Speaker 3: I have recommendations. I'll just give it to you now.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Lucy from Head and heart estate planning does. My will
- 36:41Speaker 3: has done. My whole estate plan for my family has
- 36:44Speaker 3: updated it a number of times as our situation changes.
- 36:47Speaker 3: When you have a life event, that's when you're usually
- 36:50Speaker 3: thinking about wills and estate planning. Don't wait until you
- 36:54Speaker 3: have a life event, just go and get it done.
- 36:56Speaker 3: It's a hygiene factor. It means that your family doesn't
- 36:59Speaker 3: have to stress and that all of your wishes are
- 37:02Speaker 3: going to be held. Yeah, like my money when I die,
- 37:05Speaker 3: I didn't work this hard for it to be fretted away. No,
- 37:08Speaker 3: I worked this hard so that I could have an impact,
- 37:10Speaker 3: and I would like that to be carried out. Please. Yeah, anyway,
- 37:13Speaker 3: let's leave it there. We hope you have a really
- 37:15Speaker 3: good weekend and we're going to see you bright nearly
- 37:17Speaker 3: on Monday morning. For money, Darry, Bye, guys.
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