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Ep 07 - Spooky, Sexy, Spectacular: Bringing 'Abandon' to Life with Jana Wimer & Robert Bullwinkel · The Kink Consultant

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It's the King Consultant podcast where we're turning up the heat
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on all things kink and dating, relationships and top culture.
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So close the door, plug in your headphones, and let's get down
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to it. Hello and welcome to this week's
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episode of The King Consultant. I am so lucky to have Jana
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Weimar, the director, and Bob Bullwinkle, the producer of
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Abandoned. Thank you so much for both being
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here. I was lucky enough to see this
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amazing theatre production earlier this year and you guys
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are bringing it back for the month of October in Vegas,
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right? It's the spooky season, baby,
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and we're back with a vengeance. More blood, more kink, more
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horror. All the time.
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All the things I love and all of the things I was excited about
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to see in the show. So let's just set the stage.
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Can you tell me what the show is about?
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Because obviously it's the Marquis de Sod Presents
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abandoned. And I've seen the show, there's
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a lot of Marquis de Sod in it. So what's the premise of the
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show like? Where did it all start?
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Yeah, well, it's sort of a long, long time ago.
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We'll get into that more later. But this show, we wanted a
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historical figure actually to base the show around the.
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Strangely enough, because of censorship, which we were
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talking a little bit before the podcast started, it's a lot
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easier to defend your First Amendment rights if you're
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dealing with a historical subject.
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I mean, our show is artistic in nature.
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It's not pornography. It's a show about this very
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legitimate French author who's in the French National Hall of
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Fame. And so it, we felt like that
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would give us a lot more credibility with people who
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might want to shut our showdown. Knock on wood.
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We've not we've not had any of that so far.
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And so the show is basically the Marquis de Sade's time spent
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incarcerated in mental institutions.
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He wasn't insane. He was just being persecuted for
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his kind of avant-garde sexual beliefs.
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And it was easier to lock him up than it was to deal with him out
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in society. And so in that incarceration, he
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wrote a lot. I mean, that's what kept him in
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his years in the asylum was writing, writing, writing.
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And he would actually put on little plays with the other
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inmates. I call them inmates because, you
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know, being in an asylum is a matter of race and place.
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It's not, you know what I mean? It's not like.
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And that persists to this day, which is another one of our
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themes in the shows, that mental health really hasn't changed all
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that much. So he would write little plays
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and the other, the inmates would act out his plays.
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And that was like the genesis of this idea of him being our
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central figure. And he was allowed to have
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these, right? These plays they allowed to be
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acted out in the asylum. I have very little historical
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knowledge, but I've seen the movie Quills and I don't know if
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you've seen that too, but that's I know it's loosely based on
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him, but and they'd have these themes in them, would they?
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Yeah. I mean his, his writing was all
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very kink oriented, very scatological, very graphic.
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And so I'm assuming that I don't know that any of those plays
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written for the inmates are actually existing still.
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I don't think so. I don't think so either.
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But you have to imagine based on his other writings, yes, that's
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what they were about. Yeah.
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OK, So the Marquis Desada is polarizing figure, I think, in
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the world of BDSM because he's considered what is he, the
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father or godfather, whatever it is, he is a figurehead.
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And where it started, I guess sadism is from.
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That's where it came from. His name, there are a lot of
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rumors about him and how bad he was.
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Like he was polarizing for a reason.
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Did any of that come into when you were writing the show?
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Were there concerns around that? I mean, like, I think that some
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people referred him even as a pedophile who had sex with
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children. Yeah.
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And I don't know how much of it is true or not because there are
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so many rumors around him as well.
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Right. And I don't even think we know
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how much. I mean, like, historically
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there's, yes, he was arrested for certain things, but I think
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for the most part it was just his imagination.
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But yes, that was a concern. I mean, I've had people or I've
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heard of people like looking at looking him up and just being
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like, can't believe you. Like I have a friend who who had
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a friend who was like, I can't be associated with somebody who
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would support a show that's about such a horrible person.
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It's like, yeah, not our target audience anyway.
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So weed yourself out. Yeah, but I mean, it was a
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consideration, but I mean, I ultimately don't give a fuck.
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Yeah. True story, we were turned down
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by at least one PR firm because they wouldn't handle anything
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that had the Marquis de Sod in the title.
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Wow, yeah. And it's important to remember
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he's an author. People wake up.
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Yeah. These are works of fiction.
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They're not like a diary of things that he actually did.
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And he was arrested a few times. But none of it was for for
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pedophilia. I mean, it was for a lot of
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things that now we would call. Well, that's edge play.
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That's, you know, that's some, that's some pretty serious
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impact play there. But in general, he paid
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prostitutes to do these things with him, and so is that
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consent? I don't know.
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I think that's the area where we.
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Need to do a little bit. Of a great because obviously
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we're all fans of consent here. It's just there are so many
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rumors around him as well. And I think that's the point.
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That's what makes him a larger than life figure.
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And we did not make this a historical fiction.
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It's not like we went through any of his writings and said,
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oh, we're going to do this, we're going to do this, we're
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going to. It was he was really more like
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this iconic figure that we could tell lots of other stories
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around because it's not just his stories, right?
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Right, yeah, I mean, the, the the shows about the asylum and
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other patients in the asylum and the other the people running the
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asylum and yeah, and the stuff going on in their world and
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their head and and his imagination.
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So I mean, it's about a lot of things and and it's it
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transcends horror and sexual kink and and what's frustrating
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with these people were like, Oh no, no, it's just like you
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actually came to see the show. You would see that it's so much
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more, it's about so much more than.
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It really is. It elicits a lot of feelings and
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emotions. And when I went, one of the
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things I was prepared for, all the kinky walk in and there's
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like the trigger warnings of everything you're going to see.
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But I actually have a fear of the dark and I was not prepared
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for. How?
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Actually dark the theater was going to be and it's a mind fuck
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the fact that you were able to make it that dark.
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How are the cast even hitting their marks?
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I truly want to. Know lots of rehearsals.
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It's like one Step 2 step. Blind luck, you know?
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It's all choreographed like the real show is backstage.
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Then I would love to see that. Actually, like when they're on
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stage, it's almost like a break. They can relax a little bit, but
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you know, glow tape and choreography.
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Yeah, I mean, I was sitting there and I was like, and then
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the light, something would light up and I'd be like, how are they
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there? I didn't even see them coming
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out. That is how dark the theater is.
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And I was not ready. Pitch black.
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Yeah. We did our job, I know.
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It's really difficult to achieve pitch black.
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I don't think people realize how hard it is to get a space pitch
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black. I wouldn't know how hard it was,
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but I'll tell you that it is. That's why it is such a
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mindfuck, because you're never in total darkness.
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Yeah, and Jenna really is a is just like so persistent about
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every source of life and every tiny little reflection.
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And she's like, we'll crawl back behind things up onto I know
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it's coming from somewhere. There's like a little glimmer of
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and but you're right. It is like being in the deepest,
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darkest cave, right? There's no light.
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And you're aware that people are around you, and you're aware
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that people are going to be on stage.
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But at the same time, the feeling of isolation in the
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darkness is beautiful and it's an experience unto itself.
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So I was impressed with that, and I want to call that out for
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anyone else who might be afraid of the dark as well.
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It's real. And for those of you who are in
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Las Vegas and haven't seen the show, we should tell you a
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little bit about what it actually looks like.
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It's it's a series of rapid fire vignettes.
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Each one of them last anywhere from 15 seconds to a minute,
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maybe a minute and a half. And we pack about 57 of them
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into about an hour long show. So it's like every minute
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something new is coming on, which is wonderful because if
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something scares the shit out of you, then Oh my goodness,
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there's something funny right after it to kind of cleanse your
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palate and prepare you for the next scary thing or the next
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sexy thing. It is this this series of
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wordless vignettes that are designed to evoke the emotions
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that you were talking about and to take you on this roller
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coaster ride of experiences. It's like it's like being on an
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acid trip kind of or it almost like puts you into a feud state.
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The black and then the action and the black and then the
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action. It just this fuck with your.
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Mind, it does, yeah. And but that's the other thing
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that I really liked about it. You will not be bored like that
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is one thing I can say, hands down, I guarantee no one's going
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to show up to that show and be bored.
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They might be scared, maybe slightly sick and did things or
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exhilarated by it, but there's no way anyone's going to be
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bored. And it is that quick pace of
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everything and the acting. You guys put together an amazing
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cast and are they all coming back for October?
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Most of them, Yeah, almost all of them.
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Are they Vegas based? Yes, this, this run.
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Then I have some LA actors coming in to cover some of our
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Vegas people that are have prior commitments.
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Yeah, missing some performances, but yeah, amazing Vegas actors.
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All right. And what do they do in their
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other jobs? Jenna our.
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Actors. One of them are Joshua Berg, Our
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Marquis Disod is He's a Blue Man.
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Amazing. Wow.
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OK. Julia Piolanti.
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She is a Cirque performer. Wow.
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Amazing Cirque performer. Jonas Wolverton, I think, yeah,
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I think he was in Zumanity for years and years.
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Yeah, in a way. Wow.
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So there, I mean, that's an amazing talent base here in
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Vegas. Yeah, there really is.
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I mean, there are so many shows, but then also in your
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production, I mean the music and you've got a star-studded group
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have put together this show. Yeah, our composer is Joseph
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Peshara. He did the music for The
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Conjuring, Insidious, a lot of those James Wan movies.
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A lot of. I mean, more than I can name,
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really. A lot of mind fucking music,
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yeah. Of stuff, yeah, he's, he's
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great. He's he, he was a big fan of my
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other show. So he was, you know, he came in
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and was more than happy to compose this incredible music
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for us. Amazing.
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And that show was it was in San Francisco.
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No, it's a show before it's in LA.
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It's called Urban Death. Urban death?
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Is that still running? Yeah, yeah.
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In fact, in LA right now, there's Urban Death Tour Terror,
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which is our haunt version of the show.
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Cool. OK.
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And it's we were voted number the number 2 scariest haunt in
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the country by Yelp. Whoa, that's a huge freaking OK.
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It's a it's a cool show and it's affordable.
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So if you're in LA or you're gonna be in LA for the haunt
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season, check out Urban Death Story Terror.
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All right, I might have to just go to LA for this.
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I love a good haunt. I love to be scared.
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Yeah, LA is the the Mecca of haunts.
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There's a lot of really good haunts there.
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Amazing. And Abandoned was actually named
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one of the top haunts in Las Vegas by haunts.com.
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So we're proud of that. We're we're gunning for the
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national stage. All right, easy to believe, too,
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because it's an eerie sort of feeling.
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Yeah, and just to be clear, it's not a traditional walkthrough
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hunt, but if you like a walkthrough hunt, you're gonna
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love this. Absolutely.
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Yeah, better. It's better than a walkthrough
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hunt. I think a lot of walkthrough
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hunts are not that interesting, but don't get me started on that
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brain. No, but let's put a bit.
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Let's come back to that one, actually.
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And, and going back to the to the the soundscape, because I
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mean, obviously with no words in the show, the sound is like
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critically important to set the mood to tell the story.
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And so the sound designer for this show is Katie Halliday, who
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won an Emmy for Stranger Things. Oh amazing.
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Yeah, so all of the non musical elements are all Katie.
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That's that's really great. That's another thing I walked
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in. I like to go into shows blind.
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I don't like watching movie trailers.
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I just want to get like, give me the quick gist and I'm going to
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go experience it so I get to experience something totally
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new. I think I was like 3/4 of the
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way through that show before I realized no one was talking
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because you really, you don't need words when they act like
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that. And there's just so many visual
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cues and it's done so well and you really think you're looking
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at things that, you know, that's the trick of theater.
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So yeah, I it took me a while to catch on to the fact no one has
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spoken. It's it's really ruined
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traditional theater for me. It's like blah, blah, blah,
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blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, oh God, stop talking.
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We'll see it through over almost as soon as they begin sometime.
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So yeah. Exactly.
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I can't sit through a show that's like more than an hour
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and a half. That's my absolute limit.
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Hour and a half. Me too.
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Even movies. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, I know too. So.
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Many good stories are ruined by saying too much, right?
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Leave us wanting more. I mean Chanel said it like take
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one piece off before you leave your house.
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Like, cut out 3/4 of your show before you put it on stage, all
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right? Is this the first show?
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So obviously you've worked on other shows that are still
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running. Is this the first show you both
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worked on together? I mean, technically no.
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Technically, no. OK, all right, so let's paint
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the picture. Sure.
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How did you 2 meet? Well.
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I was a little band geek in high school in Fresno, CA and my
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friends were in a show. There was a new band drama
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teacher called Bob Bullwinkle, Robert Bullwinkle and I had some
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friends in the show and I went to the first show he directed as
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my freshman year and it was a little show called Voices from
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the High School and it literally changed my life seeing that
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show. And then I started doing
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theater. So he was my high school drama
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teacher. Yes, I was.
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What was the first show you were in?
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Was it the Crucible? It was Greece.
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Greece was the. 1st No way, yeah.
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Wow, first of all was the first time I had lines.
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OK, all right. Well, that's that's an important
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one as well then. Yeah.
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Wow. OK, so when did the student
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become the master? About I don't know how many
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years ago, probably like 10 years ago now, Bob and his wife
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Kim Moran, who was also one of my theatre professors in
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college. Small.
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World, this is OK. They came to see urban death in
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LA. OK.
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My other show and you want. To take over from.
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There, Yeah, OK. Please, like struck by
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lightning. This is like the most
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innovative, fresh, unique approach to theatre that I have
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seen in a long time. I think theatre is dead, to be
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honest. And this kind of show is maybe
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the hope for that to be resurrected a little bit.
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I was just stunned that you could actually do that on stage
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and really, really get all those emotions and all of that
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nonverbal communication. I just, it just blew me away.
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I was and I after the show, I think I said you and I have to
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do something together because I've not not been this excited
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about going to see a piece of theater in 20 years.
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Wow. And that was the that was the
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beginning. So Urban Death is is like
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abandoned in the sense that it's a vignette shown and there's
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pitch blackout on this short scenes between pitch blackouts.
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But it's totally random, OK. There's no through line, there's
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no story, there's no, it's just completely random.
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So you have no idea what you're gonna see.
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All from the mind of Jana, then if.
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That was created by Zombie Joe and.
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OK, cool. And it's collaborative show, so
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like the cast will come up with pieces, but I think we have like
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over 800 pieces in Urban Death that we've done.
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Over the years. Wow.
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Yeah. So we wanted to do something new
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with this show, right? So then it does have a narrative
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arc. It has, you know, characters
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that show some character development.
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And that makes like, that really does come out in the show, but I
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don't want to give too much away.
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But there are characters and you see a growth or an expansion of
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their experiences in front of you over time.
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Yeah. Which is actually, I think
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really reflective of what an actual kink journey is like to
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because you start with that curiosity that's sort of like,
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let me just get closer to this and witness.
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And then it sort of becomes like, let me just try a little
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bit. Then you go through an extreme
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version of it. And I think that we sometimes
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see the characters go through similar aspects or sides of
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themselves as they discover their own kinks.
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Yeah, you definitely catch these characters like in extreme
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moments, yes, there's there's nothing mundane about it.
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Or if it's mundane, it's not that way for long.
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Like before something really incredible happens.
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And I think that's what I like about it, is that it's, it's
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there's no, it's all killer, no filler, you know?
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Yeah. Catch them in these moments that
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are just unique and one-of-a-kind.
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That's really true. So I want to know what, for each
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of you, what were your experiences with kink before
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doing this show? That's a dangerous laugh.
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No. No.
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None. No.
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No way. No, I mean, really just like
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basic, really basic stuff. I mean, not very interesting at
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all. It's not really my world.
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I'm a hedonist. OK, I'm a hedonist, but the kink
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thing is not my world. And so when we started doing the
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show I was like all right, I gotta in the world.
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So I signed up on like field cuz I'm single.
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All right, maybe we can fix that.
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We're gonna go through the list of.
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Things single, yeah. So I went on field and that was
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but I felt like such a poser. But everyone's like beginning in
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their king journey somewhere. It's just not everyone's
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beginning in their King journey and putting on a show about the
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father of BDSM or like the origin so.
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Right. Yeah, yeah.
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You really go for it. You go balls to the wall when
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you go. Really do.
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Because you are a hedonist, all right.
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Really lean in. I'm like a.
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Vanilla hedonist, I mean. I love that though.
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We love a self aware vanilla hedonist.
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OK. And Bob?
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I dove into it more deeply than Janet did.
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I mean, I really wanted to know what this was all about.
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And so I joined Fetlife and, and I started going to different
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kink events here in Las Vegas and also in San Francisco where
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I'm from and started experiencing that.
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And one thing I wanted to say about that is how wonderful the
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community here is in Las Vegas and San Francisco for that
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matter. But I'm more familiar with the
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community here and the people are just so welcoming and kind
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and loving and concerned and have been so helpful.
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I mean, we put out a call for rigorous to do some a shibari
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demo before the show begins in our pre show.
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And I had no trouble finding people who are like, you know,
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we pay them a little bit, but they would do it for free.
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I think just because they want to educate, they want to get the
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word out, they're going to show people that this is safe and
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sane and consensual, that it's not something that's hidden in a
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dark corner somewhere. This is really part of our human
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experience and we can embrace it and we're not just some crazy
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weirdos that should be shoved into an asylum.
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No, we're not. And it's funny that so little
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has changed in the acceptance of kink over time.
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I think that I know as much as people are angry about 50 Shades
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of Grey, it did a lot to bring it out in the forefront.
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But I think as all of us have experienced, at least on TikTok
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and Instagram and wherever we're trying to promote what we do, we
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are crucified for just even putting out safe, sane,
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consensual, clean versions of what kink is.
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And it's still being hidden away.
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And that's like, it's something that's really hard to deal with.
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Even when I made a post about abandoned earlier this year when
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I went in June because I was so excited to be there.
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As soon as you walk in the door, it's an experience and you're
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part of a show and you were interacting with characters in a
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way that I wasn't expecting to. I was so excited.
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I made the video and I was excited to share, share it with
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everyone and immediately I think Instagram like flagged it and
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said for review. Luckily when it was reviewed,
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people, the whoever, the powers that be that watched it were
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like, OK, we'll let it be. But then over time again, it
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just kept being flagged for review and there was nothing in
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it that was truly anything bad. People were clothed, nothing was
19:17
non consensual. And it's really hard to get the
19:19
word out then about anything. Kink.
19:21
Did you have trouble when you did Urban Death?
19:22
Well, I mean, just the name alone is problematic on social
19:25
mania. That death.
19:26
They don't. So, so yes, urban death has been
19:30
really, it's mostly been just word of mouth.
19:33
I mean, we've been the show's almost 20 years old, running off
19:36
and on for 20 years. So we've just slowly have
19:38
developed word of mouth and getting it going.
19:42
But we're we, even though I would say urban death is
19:46
actually more extreme with the sexuality and the nudity and
19:49
the, it's not marketed as a kink shows.
19:52
So it's a little bit and and there's so much in urban death
19:55
that we can focus on other other than the.
19:58
Kink side, yeah. So.
20:00
Just to be clear, Las Vegas, you don't have 20 years to come and
20:03
see abandoned. No, it's October 2024.
20:07
This is your chance. Don't assume it's ever going to
20:09
be coming back. What site is it that they should
20:11
go to? Because it's not on every night
20:13
in October. There are specific dates.
20:15
So where should people go to find out?
20:17
Yeah. It's being performed at Vegas
20:18
Theatre Company, first of all in the beautiful, vibrant arts
20:21
district in downtown Las Vegas. But if you go to our website,
20:25
abandonedvegas.com, you can find all the dates and times listed
20:28
there. If you want to buy a ticket, you
20:30
can go to Theater dot Vegas slash abandoned, Theater dot
20:35
Vegas forward slash abandoned and all of that.
20:37
There's a calendar there with all the dates and times.
20:39
People who do show up should definitely show up early because
20:42
as soon as you walk in the doors of the theater, there is a
20:46
spectacle. There are things to be seen,
20:48
interactions to be had before the show you're also doing.
20:51
Are you going to do like the demos, like you did this time
20:54
around? OK.
20:55
We're kind of reimagining this as even more of a kinky, creepy,
20:59
these spooky cabaret. So there'll be an MC, there'll
21:02
be apps, there'll be all the same kinds of interaction you
21:05
were referring to, but even more.
21:08
Amazing. Yeah.
21:09
All right, so what's next for Abandoned?
21:11
Yes. People might not have 20 years
21:13
to see it, but hopefully this won't be everyone's last chance.
21:16
Because if people come and see it and have an experience like
21:18
me, we're gonna want to see it again.
21:20
So what's next? Well, I think we're trying to
21:23
get it run in San Francisco going, OK, We would love to
21:26
tour, you know, because because there is no dialogue.
21:29
It could dope, you know, anywhere.
21:31
In the International, absolutely.
21:32
So I mean, we would love to see it in another country somewhere,
21:36
OK, or even in our dreams of dreams.
21:39
It would be like Blue Man Group or you know, like where there's
21:43
productions playing all over the world.
21:45
Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. I mean, I think that is what I
21:48
would hope for it as well, because I think it's a really
21:50
great representation of kink, even if it is under such a
21:54
polarizing character like the Marquis Desad, Right?
21:56
Yeah. Yeah, so any of you Deep Pocket
21:59
pod cast watchers, if you'd like to invest in a show to become a
22:03
Las Vegas icon, just let us know.
22:05
I. Don't want to get any other
22:06
shows in trouble. There is a show going now and it
22:08
calls itself the sexiest show in Las Vegas, but I think it's at
22:12
What's the Tall Hotel this. The stratosphere.
22:15
The Strat yeah. I would argue that Abandoned is
22:18
the sexiest show in Las Vegas. It is definitely the kinkiest,
22:21
yeah. And that's what makes me a huge
22:24
fan of it, yeah. We were just talking about what
22:26
a good looking cast this is. I don't know how we let you out,
22:28
but there. This is a good looking cast.
22:30
There's some. Cool people.
22:32
Very, very attractive people. There are really attractive
22:35
people. I was on Instagram after being
22:36
like follow follow follow. Especially since I too.
22:42
I'm now single so if. There's any single?
22:44
Cast members, we should hang. Let me help you navigate field,
22:49
Jenna. But if you're in, you're, are
22:53
you based in LA most of the year?
22:55
No, no, I live here now. I actually do.
22:57
Yeah, yeah, I was forced out of my rent controlled apartment of
23:00
22 years in LA and. Oh, I'm sorry.
23:03
Looking at rent I was like, oh I could get rid of half my stuff
23:06
and pay twice as much. So with the show here, I was
23:10
like and being able to afford to actually buy a house here.
23:13
Oh, yeah? Well, congratulations.
23:14
Welcome to Vegas. You might even live here longer
23:16
than I have lived here. Moved here last year.
23:18
When did you move? Here like a year and a half ago.
23:21
About the same. Yeah.
23:22
OK, we definitely need to hang out learning all of these fun
23:25
facts about you both today. So for anyone on the fence about
23:30
coming to see Abandoned, I want you guys to give me the elevator
23:33
pitch because obviously I loved it and will be telling everyone
23:35
to come and see it in October. Well, first of all, if you're
23:38
listening to this podcast, you should already see in the show.
23:41
So what's wrong with you? And, and don't let the fact that
23:45
you're not in Las Vegas stop you.
23:46
We have folks flying in from the East Coast to see the show.
23:48
Some people have come from Minneapolis.
23:50
I think they'll, they'll be coming for their third time to
23:52
see the show. And local folks have seen it
23:54
4567 times. I mean, it's, it really is
23:57
developing that kind of cult following.
23:59
And so the really, I would suggest you step outside your
24:03
comfort zone a little bit and give it a shot because I think
24:06
you'll be glad you didn't. And if you're not, it's only an
24:08
hour long. Yeah, and it'll fly by and.
24:10
Still do something fun afterwards.
24:13
And let's see. Wait, wait, Teller as in Penn
24:15
and Teller came to the show and said, oh, if only Sirk were this
24:19
good. Oh, I could agree with that.
24:23
Yeah, no. I was there.
24:25
Yeah, amazing. I would agree with that because
24:27
I know I had to fly out and couldn't come see it a second
24:30
time and was so disappointed because going through it once is
24:33
not enough. You you just know you're going
24:36
to catch more the second or third time around.
24:37
So super excited to go see it again.
24:39
Hoping to see it a couple of times this round.
24:41
Awesome. So abandoned happening at Vegas
24:44
Theatre Company in the Las Vegas Arts District, right?
24:47
And is Vegas Theatre Company someone you guys have worked
24:50
with before? Is this your first time?
24:51
Well, this is our third time because that's the third
24:53
iteration of OF, but I just wanted to put a shout out to
24:57
them because this was a real risk on their part to take the
25:00
show on. We walked into their artistic
25:02
director's office, Daz Weller, who's an awesome guy, We just
25:06
had a pitch deck and an idea, and he bought it and said, yeah,
25:09
let's do that. And so they really, really got
25:11
on a limb to promote original, groundbreaking theatre.
25:15
And Speaking of which, they're doing another like, world
25:18
premiere right now. Yeah, it's a show called House
25:20
on Watch Hill, and it's by the same people who wrote Tony
25:23
Award-winning show Band. And it's takes place in like
25:27
1984. It's about these kids who put on
25:29
a neighborhood haunted house. Cool.
25:31
And I saw they they opened this last weekend and I saw the
25:35
previews and it's it's a great show.
25:37
The kids are super talented. The music is great if you're in
25:40
the area because I think we're going up after.
25:43
OK. So that way it's.
25:45
Catching a Late Show, so come and see both.
25:48
To. Be clear on Thursdays and
25:50
Sundays we're a quote normal time like 7:00 on Thursdays and
25:54
8:00 on Sundays, but on Fridays and Saturdays, house and watch
25:57
Hill is that starts at 7:00. We start at 10 immediately
26:00
afterwards. So it's really cool because it's
26:02
theirs is more of a family friendly show and so you know,
26:05
you could put. Kids in the Uber home and.
26:08
Kids home and stay and watch our show.
26:10
Don't bring the kids. Yeah, definitely not.
26:13
I was like, no, no, no, no. OK, great.
26:16
All right. Amazing.
26:17
That does sound really cool. Double feature night out.
26:20
And there's a discount too. If you see one show, you can get
26:22
money off on seeing the other. Show good to know and would you
26:25
still be able to go get tickets through?
26:27
Yes, they're at Theater dot Vegas.
26:29
That's their The Vegas Theater Company's website.
26:31
Amazing. All right, so if you're getting
26:33
all dolled up and I would recommend dressing up for this.
26:36
I don't know. Does it happen every show?
26:38
Last time I was there, there were some prizes for Yeah
26:42
dressing up. No, exactly.
26:43
We're going to be promoting costume contest for each night.
26:47
They'll be Once you buy your ticket online, you'll get an
26:49
e-mail telling you what's happening at that show, what the
26:51
theme is, and if you want to enter the costume contest, you
26:54
may. All right, I was not prepared
26:56
last time, but you better believe I'm showing up dressed
26:58
up to every show I come to this time.
27:00
Well, thank you both Jana and Bob, really appreciate you
27:04
coming on today and hopefully you guys have a great run of the
27:07
show this month. Thank you.
27:08
Thanks for having. US absolutely was excited to
27:10
have you both. Thanks so much.
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