Latest / Beyond The Horizon / Mega Edition: The Chad Daybell Trial (Part 7) (10/19/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. In
- 0:03Speaker 1: this episode, we're getting right back to the Chad Daybell
- 0:06Speaker 1: trial and we're going to pick up with day number
- 0:09Speaker 1: seven and recap what went down inside of the courtroom.
- 0:14Speaker 1: And to do that, once again, we're using an article
- 0:16Speaker 1: published by the eastidahonews.com. The author of this article is
- 0:22Speaker 1: Nate Eaton, 822 AM. It's day number seven of Chad
- 0:27Speaker 1: Daybell's trial and we are back in the courtroom. Chad
- 0:30Speaker 1: is wearing a light blue shirt and tie, John Pryor
- 0:33Speaker 1: is sitting next to him, and the prosecutors are at
- 0:36Speaker 1: their table. There are a lot of people in the
- 0:38Speaker 1: courtroom today, many here for the first time. The bailiff
- 0:42Speaker 1: is reminding everyone not to record, take photos, and to
- 0:45Speaker 1: be sure, all phones are off. 8.25 a.m. Melanie Gibb
- 0:52Speaker 1: will be on the stand again this morning, and Pryor
- 0:54Speaker 1: will continue his cross-examination. 8.30 a.m. The attorneys are headed
- 1:00Speaker 1: back into Judge Boyce's chamber. 8.38 a.m. The attorneys are
- 1:05Speaker 1: at their table, and Gibb is back on the stand.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Boyce is on the bench, and the jurors will be
- 1:10Speaker 1: brought in. 8.41 a.m. Larry Woodcock is in the courtroom
- 1:14Speaker 1: this morning. Vicki Hoban, Tammy Daybell's aunt, is also here. 8.44 a.m.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Pryor asks Gibb if she provided a hair sample to
- 1:23Speaker 1: law enforcement. She says that she did not. He asks
- 1:27Speaker 1: if she ever turned over her phone to the police.
- 1:29Speaker 1: She says no. It was never requested. She never turned
- 1:32Speaker 1: over emails or social media accounts to law enforcement. She
- 1:36Speaker 1: did provide a DNA sample to police in 2021. 8.45 a.m.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Prior asks Gibb if she is familiar with the group
- 1:44Speaker 1: Seven Gatherers. She says she is not. Prior asks if
- 1:47Speaker 1: Chad and Lori ever talked about a plan of spending
- 1:50Speaker 1: their lives together. Gibb says within a month or two
- 1:54Speaker 1: of them meeting, they started talking about leading the 144,000. Well,
- 1:59Speaker 1: imagine that. These two nimrods get together, and before you
- 2:03Speaker 1: know it, they have this whole entire plan about leading
- 2:06Speaker 1: the 144,000. And frankly, if they're leading the 144,000, I
- 2:12Speaker 1: hope I'm dying in whatever rapture is on its way.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Imagine being stuck with these weirdos on this earth, and
- 2:19Speaker 1: these are the only people left. If you weren't an
- 2:21Speaker 1: introvert before, you're about to be one. 847 a.m. Gibb
- 2:27Speaker 1: was present a few times when Chad openly discussed that
- 2:30Speaker 1: his wife wasn't going to live long, and he was
- 2:32Speaker 1: saying this before he met Lori Vallow. Pryor refers to
- 2:35Speaker 1: a text message Gibb sent Rob Wood saying Chad told
- 2:39Speaker 1: people his wife was going to die young, and if
- 2:41Speaker 1: you notice, that's an ongoing theme with Chad Daybell. Talking
- 2:45Speaker 1: about how Tammy's gonna die young, telling this one that one,
- 2:48Speaker 1: everyone who's listening that she's gonna die young. And then,
- 2:51Speaker 1: wouldn't you know it, the only prophecy that Chad Daybell
- 2:55Speaker 1: ever prophesied that came true is the one where Tammy
- 2:58Speaker 1: Daybell died. 8.48 a.m. Gibb says Chad never told her
- 3:02Speaker 1: that he intended to do harm to Tammy, JJ, or Tylee.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Pryor refers to one call Gibb received from Chad about
- 3:09Speaker 1: not talking to the police. 8.51 a.m. Pryor asked Gibb
- 3:14Speaker 1: if she spoke to Lori prior to November 23, 2019.
- 3:18Speaker 1: with Lori warning her Chad was going to call. Gibbs
- 3:22Speaker 1: says no. Chad called on the 23rd and said Lori
- 3:26Speaker 1: was going to get a hold of her. Pryor says,
- 3:28Speaker 1: isn't it true that on November 25th, 2019, Chad Daybell
- 3:33Speaker 1: contacted you and specifically asked you where is JJ Vallow?
- 3:38Speaker 1: Gibbs says no. Pryor throwing the Hail Mary here, acting
- 3:42Speaker 1: like Chad Daybell was the concerned step-parent. Oh, where's the
- 3:46Speaker 1: kid at? Oh, yeah, sure. I'm sure that Chad Daybell
- 3:49Speaker 1: really cared. Mr. Stunat over here, who was right there
- 3:53Speaker 1: the whole entire time conspiring, putting the plans into motion,
- 3:57Speaker 1: using all kinds of, you know, religious extortion, if you will,
- 4:02Speaker 1: all kinds of threats of spiritual ruin. Yeah, Chad Daybell
- 4:06Speaker 1: was involved. Nice try, but Chad Daybell was as involved,
- 4:11Speaker 1: in my opinion, as the person who actually did the killing.
- 4:15Speaker 1: And that's what it means to be part of a
- 4:16Speaker 1: conspiracy to murder someone. 8.52 a.m. Pryor follows up by
- 4:22Speaker 1: telling Gib she is denying the fact Chad called her,
- 4:25Speaker 1: seeking out information on JJ. Gib says yes. Gib says
- 4:29Speaker 1: Lori called her and asked her to go to Frozen
- 4:31Speaker 1: and take photos of kids. Not her kids, by the way.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Random children. Let me go to a ice skating event,
- 4:39Speaker 1: some kind of like ice capades event, and let me
- 4:42Speaker 1: just start taking pictures of other people's kids because that's
- 4:46Speaker 1: going to go over well. I don't have any kids,
- 4:49Speaker 1: but if I did and some weirdo started snapping pictures
- 4:52Speaker 1: of them, there's going to be a problem. And that
- 4:55Speaker 1: problem is going to have to be dealt with by
- 4:58Speaker 1: the local police force because whatever security you have present
- 5:01Speaker 1: is not going to be enough. Take pictures of my kids. 8.53 a.m.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Pryor asks about the police calling Gibb and inquiring about JJ.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Gibb told them that she had JJ, even though she didn't.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Pryor says after that point, she decided to tell police
- 5:18Speaker 1: she didn't have JJ because she was having an emotional reflection.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Gibb says yes. She says it took a few weeks
- 5:25Speaker 1: to go to the police and tell them the truth.
- 5:28Speaker 1: And this, again, is what I mean about Melanie Gibb.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Just another one of these condemnable, gross-ass people that fell
- 5:35Speaker 1: these children. You were around. You mean to tell me
- 5:38Speaker 1: there was no clue, there was no inkling about what
- 5:42Speaker 1: was going on? I say BS. Anytime you're having a seance,
- 5:46Speaker 1: talking about driving evil spirits out of people, probably a
- 5:50Speaker 1: good indication that shit is batshit crazy, that you should
- 5:53Speaker 1: get out of Dodge, and those kids should not be
- 5:56Speaker 1: around those people. But you didn't do anything, did you,
- 6:00Speaker 1: Melanie Gibb? Instead, you hung around did your probations, got
- 6:05Speaker 1: your stupid-ass blessings, and waited weeks to go to the
- 6:09Speaker 1: police with the real story. Time that could have been
- 6:12Speaker 1: spent in other ways, as far as the investigation goes,
- 6:16Speaker 1: was time wasted because Melanie Gibb didn't come forward with
- 6:21Speaker 1: the truth in a fastidious manner. Instead, she sat on it, waited,
- 6:26Speaker 1: took a few weeks, had some self-reflection, went and got
- 6:29Speaker 1: a manicure, read a few Chad Daybell books, whatever it
- 6:32Speaker 1: might be. What she didn't do is protect these kids. 8.56 a.m.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Pryor asks about the recorded call Gibb made to Chad
- 6:41Speaker 1: and Lori on December 8th, 2019. He asks if she
- 6:44Speaker 1: had contact with law enforcement before making the call. Gibb
- 6:48Speaker 1: says she spoke with police but isn't sure of the date.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Pryor says she made two calls to Rexburg police detective
- 6:54Speaker 1: Ray Hermosillo on December 6th and 7th. Gibb says she
- 6:58Speaker 1: doesn't recall the dates. 8.58 a.m. Gibb says there was
- 7:02Speaker 1: contact with law enforcement before the call, but she doesn't
- 7:05Speaker 1: recall the time or the date. Pryor says during the call,
- 7:09Speaker 1: the majority of the conversation was between Chad and Lori.
- 7:13Speaker 1: He says the only time Chad got on the phone
- 7:16Speaker 1: was to talk about his premonition about Tammy. Gibb agrees
- 7:20Speaker 1: Chad was not a significant portion of the call. 9 a.m.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Pryor asked Gibb if Lori was being vague on the
- 7:26Speaker 1: phone call because Chad was there. And Lori didn't want
- 7:29Speaker 1: Chad to know she was going to talk about the
- 7:32Speaker 1: murder of J.J. Vallow. Gibb says she has no idea
- 7:35Speaker 1: what Lori's agenda was. 9.01 a.m. Pryor asks about Chad, Lori,
- 7:40Speaker 1: and Gibb using different names. Chad and Lori use the
- 7:43Speaker 1: names James and Elena, or, you already know, Stu Nott
- 7:48Speaker 1: and Scafusa. Pryor says Gibb went by the name of Phoebe.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Gibb says she occasionally went by that name. Oh yeah,
- 7:56Speaker 1: nothing crazy here. Let me just go by a different
- 7:59Speaker 1: name that Stunad gave me, and everything is just on
- 8:02Speaker 1: the up and up. 9.05am. Pryor shows an email sent
- 8:06Speaker 1: from Gibb to Lori, where she says she will teach
- 8:08Speaker 1: people about dark portals. There is some confusion over who
- 8:12Speaker 1: sent the email to who. Blake asks to approach. Attorneys
- 8:16Speaker 1: are meeting with Boyce on the side of the courtroom.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Enough with the portals already. If there was a portal,
- 8:23Speaker 1: don't you think Chad Daybell would have portaled his ass
- 8:25Speaker 1: directly into it and out the other side right into
- 8:28Speaker 1: Eden when he was about to be arrested? Oh, he
- 8:31Speaker 1: didn't do that, did he? What about Lori Vallow? I
- 8:34Speaker 1: thought she used portals. I guess that was just a
- 8:36Speaker 1: bunch of bullshit too, huh? I mean, I'm shocked. Who
- 8:39Speaker 1: would have ever thought that Lori Vallow would be pitching
- 8:42Speaker 1: a bunch of bullshit and telling a bunch of lies?
- 8:45Speaker 1: She is just as honest as they come, right? The
- 8:48Speaker 1: embodiment of an angel on earth. Just ask her. Meanwhile,
- 8:52Speaker 1: back here on Earth, we all know her for the
- 8:54Speaker 1: vile piece of human excrement that she is. 909 AM.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Pryor back at the stand. This email was from July 2019.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Pryor says Gibb was getting ready to go teach at
- 9:07Speaker 1: a mountain retreat. Let me repeat that. Gibb was going
- 9:10Speaker 1: to teach at a mountain retreat. Imagine going willingly to
- 9:14Speaker 1: any sort of retreat with these kinds of people. Never
- 9:17Speaker 1: mind somebody like Melanie Gibb doing the talking and the teaching.
- 9:21Speaker 1: I'd rather be dropped in the middle of the Amazon
- 9:24Speaker 1: with the cannibal tribes. I'd rather take my chances with
- 9:27Speaker 1: the cannibals than listen to one minute of any of
- 9:31Speaker 1: these morons talk about whatever the hell it is that
- 9:34Speaker 1: they were talking about. Gibb says she doesn't recall anything
- 9:38Speaker 1: like that. Gibb says the text was from Lori to Gibb.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Pryor says the message from her to Lori. Gibb says
- 9:44Speaker 1: she never taught in any camp about dark portals. 9.13 a.m.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Pryor asked Gibb if she had discussions with people about
- 9:52Speaker 1: light and dark. She said she did, but didn't go
- 9:55Speaker 1: around teaching. Pryor shows Gibb a message where she apparently
- 9:59Speaker 1: spoke about a man named Mike James and a woman
- 10:02Speaker 1: named Nancy being super dark. Gibb was totally into all
- 10:06Speaker 1: of this stuff. Come on. There's no doubt. She was
- 10:09Speaker 1: a true believer, folks. 1000%. 9.14am. Gibb does not recall
- 10:15Speaker 1: the message and does not recall talking to people outside
- 10:18Speaker 1: of the inner circle about light and dark. 9.15am. Prior
- 10:22Speaker 1: asks about castings. Gibb had never done anything with castings
- 10:26Speaker 1: until she met Lori. Prior asks if death was ever
- 10:29Speaker 1: in the equation for the castings. Prior says the person
- 10:33Speaker 1: would eventually pass on if the evil spirit didn't leave.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Prior asks if this teaching is consistent with the LDS faith.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Gibb says no. Certainly sounds like a circle of witches
- 10:44Speaker 1: to me. Oh, let's get together and we're going to
- 10:46Speaker 1: do a seance and we're going to talk about this
- 10:48Speaker 1: one getting rid of a spirit or that one getting
- 10:50Speaker 1: rid of a spirit. Take it easy, Melisandre. And the
- 10:54Speaker 1: LDS faith? Well, I don't know anything about that, but
- 10:57Speaker 1: you have to be on LSD if you believe this
- 10:59Speaker 1: shit that Gibb is talking about. 9.16 a.m. Pryor asked
- 11:04Speaker 1: Gibb about visiting Hawaii in 2019. He asked if Lori
- 11:08Speaker 1: paid for her flight. Gibb doesn't remember. Tylee was not there.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Pryor asked if there were occasions Lori paid for people's flights.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Gibb doesn't know about that. 9.17 a.m. Pryor now discussing
- 11:20Speaker 1: Gibb's trip to Rexburg in September 2019. She landed in
- 11:24Speaker 1: Idaho Falls and Lori picked her up. Gibb and Lori
- 11:28Speaker 1: went to Johnny Carino's, according to Pryor. Gibb remembers going
- 11:32Speaker 1: to an Italian restaurant. Pryor says after they ate, they
- 11:36Speaker 1: went to Walmart. Gibb doesn't remember. Now I wonder if
- 11:39Speaker 1: it's a real Italian restaurant or, you know, spaghetti noodles
- 11:42Speaker 1: with ketchup. We're talking about Rexburg, Idaho here, folks. 9.19 a.m.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Gibb doesn't recall seeing Chad that day. She just remembers
- 11:51Speaker 1: she was with Lori. She landed on Thursday. Pryor asks
- 11:54Speaker 1: Gib if she remembers going to Gravity Factory, a jump house,
- 11:58Speaker 1: on Friday. Gib doesn't recall the exact date or the
- 12:01Speaker 1: time that they went. So you're going to go to
- 12:03Speaker 1: a jump house? And you don't have any kids with you? Well,
- 12:06Speaker 1: that's a little weird, no? Bunch of adults at the
- 12:08Speaker 1: jump house. Okay, I guess. 921 AM. The jump house
- 12:13Speaker 1: was for JJ. Alright, well, at least it was for
- 12:15Speaker 1: the kid. I mean, can you imagine just a bunch
- 12:17Speaker 1: of adults here at this jump house? Especially when this
- 12:21Speaker 1: lady's supposed to have kids with her, and the kids
- 12:23Speaker 1: are nowhere to be found? Tell me that wouldn't be
- 12:25Speaker 1: a little bit weird. Gibb says they were there for
- 12:28Speaker 1: around two hours. Alex came and went from the jump house,
- 12:31Speaker 1: according to Gibb. They went out for pizza. Pryor says
- 12:34Speaker 1: she had to go back to Lori's townhouse to get
- 12:36Speaker 1: ready to pick up David. Gibb says that's not correct.
- 12:40Speaker 1: David drove in. 9.23 a.m. That night, Lori, Gibb, and
- 12:44Speaker 1: David were hanging out at Lori's house. Gibb recalls Chad
- 12:48Speaker 1: may have come over. May have, huh? You don't remember, though?
- 12:51Speaker 1: You remember everything else, but you don't remember if Chad
- 12:53Speaker 1: came over. Alex played Guitar Hero. On Saturday, Gibb went
- 12:57Speaker 1: to a Film Foundation conference. Pryor asks if she remembers
- 13:01Speaker 1: texting Wood that she was at the firm foundation for
- 13:04Speaker 1: about 10 hours taking photos. 9.25 a.m. Gibb was at
- 13:09Speaker 1: the conference all day and didn't see Chad that night.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Pryor asks Gibb if she and David slept in the
- 13:14Speaker 1: next day, Sunday. Gibb says no, she doesn't sleep in. 9.26 a.m.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Lori colored and cut Gib's hair on Sunday. Pry her
- 13:23Speaker 1: ass if they went out for lunch. Gib says she
- 13:26Speaker 1: doesn't remember the lunch arrangements. Gib went to see a
- 13:29Speaker 1: field and may have been with David. They went to
- 13:33Speaker 1: meet up with Chad to see a piece of property. 9.30 a.m.
- 13:37Speaker 1: After they saw the parcels of land, Gib went back
- 13:40Speaker 1: to Lori's townhouse. They recorded their podcast that night and
- 13:43Speaker 1: Chad was not there. They finished recording around midnight. 9.31 a.m.
- 13:49Speaker 1: On Monday, Gibb and David left around 9.30 a.m. to
- 13:52Speaker 1: drive to Pocatello to visit David's son. Pryor has no
- 13:56Speaker 1: further questions. Blake will now conduct the redirect. 9.33 a.m.
- 14:02Speaker 1: Blake says Gibb has been asked a lot and asks
- 14:05Speaker 1: if she has done her best to recall the facts.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Gibb says yes. Blake asks if Chad ever indicated that
- 14:11Speaker 1: he had visions. Gibb says he shared them publicly, so yes. 9.35 a.m.
- 14:18Speaker 1: Blake asks about vibration. Gibb says Chad and Lori use
- 14:21Speaker 1: the term in a way to express their knowledge about translation.
- 14:25Speaker 1: The higher the vibration number, the closer the body would
- 14:28Speaker 1: be to a translated state. Gibb says when you are translated,
- 14:32Speaker 1: your body is changed in a way so you don't
- 14:35Speaker 1: have to eat, are stronger, and are more powerful. Can
- 14:38Speaker 1: you point to anybody who that's ever happened to? Melanie Gibb?
- 14:42Speaker 1: This is all just fantasy. that you morons made up.
- 14:45Speaker 1: It's no different than if we were all sitting around
- 14:48Speaker 1: playing a game of Dungeons and Dragons, and me being
- 14:51Speaker 1: the dungeon master came up with this whole scenario about
- 14:55Speaker 1: what you can and can't do, what the rules of
- 14:57Speaker 1: the magic system are. That's basically what this dude and
- 15:00Speaker 1: Lori Vallow did. And all these other morons that followed
- 15:04Speaker 1: along with it, well, I'll leave it up to you
- 15:07Speaker 1: to come to your own conclusions about them. 9.36 a.m.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Blake asks if it would be fair to say that
- 15:14Speaker 1: some people may have a glow about them. Gibb says yes.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Blake asks if that's different than the light and dark
- 15:21Speaker 1: Chad and Lori taught. Gibb responds, I think so. 9.37 a.m.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Blake asks Gibb about her communication with prosecutors and if
- 15:29Speaker 1: any of that communication altered her vision of events. Gibb
- 15:32Speaker 1: says no. Blake asks Gibb if she ever observed Chad
- 15:36Speaker 1: and Lori on the phone together. Gibb says yes. She
- 15:39Speaker 1: was able to overhear some of the conversations. 9.39 a.m.
- 15:44Speaker 1: Blake asks who labeled people dark or zombies. Gibbs says Chad.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Blake asks that once someone was labeled dark or zombies,
- 15:52Speaker 1: what would happen to their bodies? Gibbs says if the
- 15:54Speaker 1: casting was successful, the body would die. Gibbs says JJ, Tammy, Charles,
- 16:00Speaker 1: and Tylee were all labeled dark or zombies, and they
- 16:03Speaker 1: all did the casting, right? And then what happened to
- 16:06Speaker 1: all those people? That, my friends, is conspiracy. 9.40 a.m.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Blake asks about the call in part where Chad told
- 16:15Speaker 1: Gib she could be in danger. Blake asks if Chad
- 16:18Speaker 1: ever jumped into correct Lori on the call. Gib doesn't
- 16:22Speaker 1: recall him jumping in. Blake follows up by asking about
- 16:25Speaker 1: the call Gib received from Chad around Thanksgiving when he
- 16:29Speaker 1: asked her not to pick up the phone when the
- 16:31Speaker 1: police called. Gib asked Chad if JJ was with Kay.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Chad told her no. 9.42 a.m. Gib says she didn't
- 16:39Speaker 1: know JJ had been reported missing. when Chad told her
- 16:42Speaker 1: not to talk to the police. Blake has no further questions.
- 16:45Speaker 1: Pryor has some follow-up questions. Blake asks to approach. The
- 16:50Speaker 1: attorneys huddle in the courtroom, and white noise is played. 9.45 a.m.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Pryor at the podium and asks Gibb about castings. He
- 16:59Speaker 1: asks if the purpose was to rid the body of
- 17:01Speaker 1: evil spirits. She says yes. Pryor has nothing further, but
- 17:04Speaker 1: he wants to keep Gibb under subpoena in case he
- 17:07Speaker 1: wants to call her in again later in the trial.
- 17:10Speaker 1: He says the final decision has not been made if
- 17:13Speaker 1: he will recall her. 9.47 a.m. Boyce says we will
- 17:18Speaker 1: take a mid-morning recess, but there is an issue that
- 17:21Speaker 1: needs to be discussed outside the presence of the jury.
- 17:24Speaker 1: The jurors are dismissed, but the rest of us remain
- 17:26Speaker 1: in the courtroom. 9.49 a.m. Blake says Pryor has been
- 17:31Speaker 1: allowed to do a recross on all witnesses. She is
- 17:34Speaker 1: objecting to the generality of him being able to recross
- 17:38Speaker 1: everyone and asks that he be limited. Pryor says it's
- 17:41Speaker 1: not up to the prosecutor to decide when he can recross.
- 17:44Speaker 1: It's up to the judge. 9.50 a.m. Boyce says there
- 17:47Speaker 1: are limitations on what should be allowed in redirect. He
- 17:50Speaker 1: says he has been liberal in allowing the scope to
- 17:52Speaker 1: be broad because there is an agreement between the state
- 17:55Speaker 1: and defense in being efficient in moving through witnesses so
- 17:59Speaker 1: they don't have to be called twice. Boyce says he
- 18:01Speaker 1: will keep an eye on the topics and take the
- 18:04Speaker 1: objections under advisement. 9.52 a.m. We will now break for
- 18:08Speaker 1: the morning recess. Be back soon. And like usual, this
- 18:12Speaker 1: is where we're going to take our break as well.
- 18:14Speaker 1: And in the next episode, we'll continue on with the
- 18:17Speaker 1: recap of day number seven at the Chad Daybell Trial.
- 18:22Speaker 1: All the information that goes with this episode can be
- 18:25Speaker 1: found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome
- 18:29Speaker 1: back to the program. In this episode, we're picking up
- 18:32Speaker 1: where we left off with the Chad Daybell Trial and
- 18:36Speaker 1: On day number seven. And to do that, once again,
- 18:39Speaker 1: we're using eastidahonews.com. And the author of this article is
- 18:43Speaker 1: Nate Eaton. 1025 a.m. Back in the courtroom. Voices on
- 18:48Speaker 1: the bench and the jurors have been brought in. Next
- 18:50Speaker 1: witness for the prosecution will be retired FBI agent Doug Hart.
- 18:55Speaker 1: Hart is currently the chief deputy for the Canyon County
- 18:58Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office. And for those of you who followed along
- 19:02Speaker 1: during the Lori Vallow trial, All of these names are
- 19:05Speaker 1: very familiar. All of these people gave testimony during her trial,
- 19:11Speaker 1: and all of these people who are up here as
- 19:13Speaker 1: witnesses helped seal her fate. One thing that I will say, though,
- 19:18Speaker 1: is that Chad Daybell's lawyer, Mr. Pryor, is at least
- 19:21Speaker 1: putting up a fight. Lori Vallow's lawyers, they basically just
- 19:25Speaker 1: packed it in. 10.30 a.m. Hart says this case was
- 19:29Speaker 1: brought to the FBI's attention toward the end of November 2019.
- 19:33Speaker 1: The FBI works well with partners in missing kid cases.
- 19:37Speaker 1: The FBI work with the Rexburg Police Department, Fremont County
- 19:40Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office, and the Idaho Attorney General's Office. And remember,
- 19:44Speaker 1: the second a crime goes across state lines, it becomes
- 19:48Speaker 1: FBI jurisdiction. So, once you have a crime that's been
- 19:51Speaker 1: committed over state lines, you're now not just dealing with
- 19:55Speaker 1: the local authorities, but you're going to be dealing with
- 19:57Speaker 1: the FBI as well. And as we all know, once
- 20:00Speaker 1: the feds get involved, forget it. Your chances of getting
- 20:03Speaker 1: away with the crime, well, they dwindle dramatically the second
- 20:06Speaker 1: the feds decide to show up. 10.31 a.m. Hart was
- 20:11Speaker 1: the FBI supervisor in the case. He reviewed and approved
- 20:14Speaker 1: things that went into the case file. He also carried
- 20:17Speaker 1: several investigative assignments in the case. He looked into two
- 20:21Speaker 1: iCloud accounts of Lori Vallow, Lori for Style, and Lollitime.
- 20:26Speaker 1: Lollitime started July 1, 2019, but Lori for Style was
- 20:31Speaker 1: an older account. 10.34 a.m. Hart says the amount of
- 20:35Speaker 1: data on the iCloud accounts was... The FBI used a
- 20:40Speaker 1: program called Celebrite to search through the accounts. Hart has
- 20:44Speaker 1: a summary exhibit showing what we discovered. And so what
- 20:48Speaker 1: they do is they go through all of these phone records,
- 20:51Speaker 1: all of this digital information, and then they build these exhibits,
- 20:55Speaker 1: these PowerPoint exhibits, to show to the jury and to
- 20:59Speaker 1: the court how they arrived at the place where they
- 21:02Speaker 1: arrived with Chad Daybell as a suspect in these murders.
- 21:06Speaker 1: And that's why these exhibits are so damaging for Chad Daybell.
- 21:11Speaker 1: Because they put everything into perspective and it shows you
- 21:14Speaker 1: piece by piece how this built up over time until
- 21:18Speaker 1: we got to the point where Tylee and JJ were
- 21:21Speaker 1: killed and Tammy was killed. And all of this builds
- 21:24Speaker 1: that foundation for the prosecution. 10.37 a.m. Hart says Chad
- 21:29Speaker 1: and Lori met on October 26, 2018. He says there
- 21:30Speaker 1: are communications in the exhibit That referenced the time frame
- 21:38Speaker 1: of when the couple met. 10.40 a.m. The majority of
- 21:41Speaker 1: the information on the presentation is from the Lori for
- 21:45Speaker 1: Style account. Lindsay Blake is questioning Hart. She shows the
- 21:49Speaker 1: first slide. It's a text message from Lori to Audrey Baratiero.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Hi Audrey, this is Lori. I would like to talk
- 21:56Speaker 1: to you sometime. Text me or call me. I'm excited
- 21:59Speaker 1: to be able to talk to you about what we
- 22:01Speaker 1: both know. 10.42 a.m. Audrey responds, hi Lori, guess you
- 22:07Speaker 1: talked to Chad, haha, did he tell you I have
- 22:10Speaker 1: a crazy work schedule? I might be able to talk tonight,
- 22:13Speaker 1: I'll have to play it by ear, but I wouldn't
- 22:15Speaker 1: know until about 9.30pm or after, the same for tomorrow.
- 22:19Speaker 1: Lori responds, he did, that's okay, just let me know
- 22:22Speaker 1: when you're available. No pressure, I just think it's fun
- 22:25Speaker 1: to talk to someone who knows what's really going on.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Audrey responds, so what times usually work for you? I
- 22:32Speaker 1: usually talk to him on my lunch breaks on Monday
- 22:34Speaker 1: or Tuesday. Sunday afternoons, I can talk. 10.47 a.m. Audrey
- 22:39Speaker 1: Baratiero was a friend and associate of Chad Daybell, Hart says.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Chad introduced Audrey to Lori. Hart says the Lori being
- 22:48Speaker 1: excited to talk to Audrey about what they both know
- 22:51Speaker 1: stuck out to him. Well, yeah, it does seem a
- 22:53Speaker 1: bit suspect, no? What we both know? And then there's
- 22:56Speaker 1: kids who are dead? Yeah, probably something that's going to
- 23:00Speaker 1: jump out to an investigator who's building a profile. 10.48 a.m.
- 23:05Speaker 1: The next slide. These were sent between 9.18 and 9.30 p.m.
- 23:09Speaker 1: on July 13th, 2019. Text from Melanie Boudreau, her niece,
- 23:14Speaker 1: now Pawlowski, to Lori. Brandon, Melanie's ex-husband, is making me
- 23:18Speaker 1: promise not to have you or Al around my house
- 23:22Speaker 1: or kids. He's talked to a lawyer, and he said
- 23:25Speaker 1: his lawyer said that due to the circumstances, he can
- 23:27Speaker 1: do that. What do I do? Melanie sends another message.
- 23:32Speaker 1: He brought Allie Bloomer's husband here who is a cop.
- 23:35Speaker 1: Chad texts Lori. He can't do that. Just like he
- 23:38Speaker 1: can't get a restraining order against you. The mediator would
- 23:41Speaker 1: make that clear. You and Al did have charges against you.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Chad sends another message to Lori. I will check all
- 23:49Speaker 1: Bloomer and husband. 10.58 a.m. Hart says Chad assigned people
- 23:53Speaker 1: light or dark and would give them scores. Lori and
- 23:56Speaker 1: others would seek Chad's visions in relation to whether people
- 23:59Speaker 1: were light or dark. This is one of the first
- 24:02Speaker 1: references we see in the iCloud account where Lori is
- 24:05Speaker 1: seeking information from Chad, meaning he'll let us know what
- 24:09Speaker 1: the scores for Allie Bloomer and her husband are, meaning
- 24:13Speaker 1: about light and dark. 10.53 a.m. Continuing, Lori to Chad,
- 24:18Speaker 1: good idea. Chad to Lori, Allie Bloomer is a 4.1 dark.
- 24:22Speaker 1: Her cop husband is a 3 dark. I suppose Brandon
- 24:25Speaker 1: doesn't know yet about the Discover Charles text, Lori said
- 24:28Speaker 1: to Chad. Not yet, but I'm sure he knows it's
- 24:31Speaker 1: not good. They have a lot of conflict. Mel says
- 24:34Speaker 1: he looks scared. Lori to Melanie. Ali's bloomer's husband. Three.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Dark emoji. Chad to Lori. His emotions are 75% panic,
- 24:43Speaker 1: 25% fear. Yeah, he's a little worried. How about projection?
- 24:48Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot of projection from Stunad here. Talking
- 24:50Speaker 1: about other people are worried. Other people have fear. Meanwhile,
- 24:55Speaker 1: this dude nods hopping in his car and trying to
- 24:57Speaker 1: run away when they start to exhume the body from
- 25:00Speaker 1: his property. 10.55 AM. Next slide. Lori texts Chad. Can
- 25:04Speaker 1: you clear Mel's new house? She's sleeping there tonight. And
- 25:07Speaker 1: check it for recording devices? Chad to Lori. Glad we
- 25:11Speaker 1: are in sync. I will clear the house and check it.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Was he surprised when she returned home early? Chad to Lori.
- 25:17Speaker 1: I'm working on the house, but having to break down
- 25:20Speaker 1: some dark entities Brandon created. I detect three listening devices.
- 25:24Speaker 1: Lori to Melanie. From your dad, I'm working on the house,
- 25:28Speaker 1: but having to break down some dark entries Brandon created.
- 25:31Speaker 1: I detect three listening devices. What does that even mean,
- 25:34Speaker 1: he detects three listening devices? What an absolute clown. What
- 25:38Speaker 1: an absolute fool. And the people that were following along
- 25:41Speaker 1: with him? Yep, that's right. Foolish too. 10.57am. Hart says
- 25:47Speaker 1: the individuals within the group look to Chad as the
- 25:50Speaker 1: supposed visionary who will give them this type of information.
- 25:54Speaker 1: When the requests are made, Chad responds. 10.58 a.m. Next
- 25:58Speaker 1: slide from July 13th at 11.06, Chad to Lori. Concerning
- 26:02Speaker 1: the two weeks, BYU, Idaho's graduation, is July 23rd. Adam
- 26:07Speaker 1: is getting his bachelor's and Leah and Joe are getting
- 26:10Speaker 1: their associates. They are all walking in the same commencement ceremony.
- 26:14Speaker 1: I feel she will be gone by then, but I
- 26:16Speaker 1: will still have the hoopla to deal with because a
- 26:18Speaker 1: lot of my and Adam's family are coming to stay
- 26:21Speaker 1: for July 24th. So I believe that's why the Lord
- 26:25Speaker 1: hinted I might not get to be with you until
- 26:28Speaker 1: that is over. Please ask about that. 10.59 a.m. Boyce
- 26:32Speaker 1: asks Hart who he believes the she is referring to
- 26:35Speaker 1: in the next. Hart says Tammy Daybell. 11 a.m. These
- 26:39Speaker 1: messages were sent two days after Charles Vallow was shot
- 26:42Speaker 1: and killed. So the plan was in motion. Charles was
- 26:45Speaker 1: already dead. They planned on killing Tammy. And the kids, well,
- 26:49Speaker 1: they planned on getting rid of them too. 11.01 a.m.
- 26:53Speaker 1: On July 14th at 7.42 a.m., chat to Lori. Good morning,
- 26:58Speaker 1: my most beautiful Lily. Thanks for joining me in the
- 27:01Speaker 1: shower this morning. Wow. Get your barf bags out, folks.
- 27:04Speaker 1: You're going to need them. Getting ready to leave for
- 27:06Speaker 1: my meetings. Does noon, your time, look like a time
- 27:09Speaker 1: we could talk? I love you so immensely that the
- 27:12Speaker 1: whole universe knows it. And very soon, the people on
- 27:15Speaker 1: this little blue globe will know it, too. Lori responds
- 27:19Speaker 1: at 8.19 a.m. Morning, sunshine. Sure. Call me if you
- 27:22Speaker 1: get a chance. Hart says Lori was in Arizona and
- 27:25Speaker 1: Chad was in Idaho at the time of this message.
- 27:28Speaker 1: 1102 AM. Chad texted Lori the next day, I love
- 27:33Speaker 1: you so much. You are my greatest desire and my
- 27:36Speaker 1: best friend. Now on with the story. Chad then goes
- 27:39Speaker 1: on to text the James and Elena story, the Stunant
- 27:43Speaker 1: and Scafusa story, from the romance novel that Chad wrote.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Can you imagine this idiot writing a romance novel? I'm
- 27:49Speaker 1: sure this dude knows as much about romance... as I
- 27:52Speaker 1: do about spacewalking. 11.04 a.m. Chad referred to himself as James,
- 27:58Speaker 1: Laurie as Elena. Part of the novel is on the screen.
- 28:01Speaker 1: They would both attend the same event in mid-November, and
- 28:04Speaker 1: it seemed like the day would never arrive. Each day,
- 28:07Speaker 1: they opened their hearts to each other a little more.
- 28:10Speaker 1: James knew that he could trust her with the mysteries
- 28:12Speaker 1: of the universe that had been revealed to him. He
- 28:15Speaker 1: knew they had been married before, and that they had
- 28:18Speaker 1: been close friends with the Savior when he lived in Jerusalem.
- 28:22Speaker 1: James had served as an important position in the Lord's Church,
- 28:25Speaker 1: and Elena had been his beloved spouse and best friend.
- 28:29Speaker 1: The relationship was now meant to continue in this lifetime.
- 28:32Speaker 1: 1109 AM, next slide. As James and Elena talk on
- 28:36Speaker 1: the phone, he tried to delicately describe their connection to
- 28:40Speaker 1: each other, and he was delighted that she believed him.
- 28:43Speaker 1: He also shared that they had been married other times
- 28:46Speaker 1: on a previous world, and she accepted that information as well.
- 28:50Speaker 1: James was overjoyed to have these memories restored to him
- 28:54Speaker 1: because he truly loved her with all of his heart.
- 28:57Speaker 1: He knew they were meant to be married again and
- 28:59Speaker 1: complete important missions together before the second coming. Like, I
- 29:02Speaker 1: want to have some wise-ass comment for all of this,
- 29:05Speaker 1: but I think it just speaks for itself. You have
- 29:08Speaker 1: to be one demented, stupid moron to believe any of
- 29:12Speaker 1: this nonsense. 11.12am. He also became aware that the spirit
- 29:18Speaker 1: would visit her at night and they would wrap around
- 29:20Speaker 1: each other in a sensual embrace. Kissing her was so
- 29:23Speaker 1: wonderful and real, and he knew that the next time
- 29:26Speaker 1: they saw each other, he needed to kiss her. He
- 29:28Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to resist holding her. He was absolutely
- 29:31Speaker 1: in love with her in every way. 1115 a.m. The
- 29:35Speaker 1: next slide shows messages sent the evening of July 14th, 2019.
- 29:41Speaker 1: Chad to Lori, hanging in there, but really missing you too.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Please find out the name of Mel's camp out in Utah.
- 29:48Speaker 1: I have no intention of going, but I feel it's
- 29:51Speaker 1: our avenue to get together, whether she is still here
- 29:53Speaker 1: or not. Lori, Zion's family camp. Mel speaks Wednesday night
- 29:58Speaker 1: and Dave speaks Thursday night. Shelly M is their main speaker.
- 30:01Speaker 1: Eye roll. Chad. My trip to speak at the camp
- 30:04Speaker 1: July 24th through 26th has been approved and is now
- 30:08Speaker 1: on the calendar. 11.17 a.m. Hart says the she in
- 30:13Speaker 1: the message referred to Tammy Daybell. He believes the camp
- 30:15Speaker 1: was an excuse for Chad and Lori to meet up
- 30:18Speaker 1: in person. 11.19 a.m. Message on July 14th. Chad to Lori.
- 30:24Speaker 1: I need so badly to just gently kiss you for hours. Chad.
- 30:28Speaker 1: It would likely lead to other activities. Lori to Chad,
- 30:31Speaker 1: likely or luckily. Chad to Lori, it would luckily lead
- 30:35Speaker 1: to nakedness. Hart says there was a lot of sexting
- 30:38Speaker 1: messages in iCloud, and this is just one example. Please
- 30:42Speaker 1: save us from having to read any more of those. Like,
- 30:46Speaker 1: the thought of these two in any form of copulation
- 30:50Speaker 1: or even sexting is just beyond the pale of disgusting. 11.20am.
- 30:56Speaker 1: Next message from Chad to Lori on July 15th. I
- 30:59Speaker 1: know you won't get this for another hour or so,
- 31:01Speaker 1: but my love for you is overflowing right now. I
- 31:04Speaker 1: just want to hold you endlessly. You are my wonderful
- 31:07Speaker 1: best friend I can't live without. Lori responds, and yet
- 31:10Speaker 1: you are. So sad. Emoji's missing you. Just landed. Gotta
- 31:14Speaker 1: get to work. 1121 AM. Hart says Lori would manipulate Chad,
- 31:19Speaker 1: such as in her response, and yet you are, meaning
- 31:22Speaker 1: he can't live without her, but he is. And there
- 31:25Speaker 1: is zero doubt that Lori Vallow manipulated Chad Deboe. And
- 31:28Speaker 1: on the flip side of that, he manipulated her. They
- 31:32Speaker 1: were both in it to win it, and they were
- 31:34Speaker 1: both up to no good. And then you add Alex
- 31:37Speaker 1: Cox to the equation, and you have yourself a murderous trio. 11.22 a.m.
- 31:43Speaker 1: The next slide, Lori to Chad on July 18th. I
- 31:46Speaker 1: just got the letter from my insurance company saying that
- 31:48Speaker 1: I am not the beneficiary. It's just a spear through
- 31:51Speaker 1: my heart. Who do you think he changed it to?
- 31:53Speaker 1: Brandon or probably Kay? He left nothing for J.J., Chad
- 31:57Speaker 1: to Lori, wow, that's terrible. There is no way to
- 32:00Speaker 1: find out. They go back and forth, and Chad says, hmm,
- 32:04Speaker 1: it'll be interesting if it got changed after he had
- 32:06Speaker 1: two bullets in his chest. 11.25 a.m. Chad tells Lori
- 32:12Speaker 1: that there should be a paper trail, and there is
- 32:15Speaker 1: another step to bringing down the Gadiantins, especially Brandon. Lori
- 32:19Speaker 1: responds that he, Charles, can change the life insurance at
- 32:23Speaker 1: any time. Smith asks Hart, what Gadiantans mean. The Gadiantans
- 32:27Speaker 1: were a group of people from the Book of Mormon,
- 32:29Speaker 1: robbers and thieves. When the phrase is used, it identifies
- 32:33Speaker 1: someone as being a bad person. 11.27 a.m. Laurie responds
- 32:39Speaker 1: that Charles can change the life insurance at any time.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Chad tells Laurie that he thinks it's Kay who is
- 32:45Speaker 1: the beneficiary and she is probably freaking out after Laurie
- 32:48Speaker 1: got those computers. Chad says he's going to shower and
- 32:52Speaker 1: give Laurie a blessing. Lori texts Chad later that day.
- 32:55Speaker 1: So I talked to the insurance company. He changed it
- 32:58Speaker 1: on in March. So it was probably Ned before we
- 33:01Speaker 1: got rid of him. They can't tell me to who,
- 33:04Speaker 1: of course, but it's done. I'll still get the four
- 33:06Speaker 1: G's a month from Social Security. All of this is
- 33:09Speaker 1: so damning for Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow. And if
- 33:13Speaker 1: I was a juror sitting in this courtroom, forget it.
- 33:16Speaker 1: This dude would be cooked. It was Ned before we
- 33:19Speaker 1: got rid of him? Okay, and then Valo dies? If
- 33:22Speaker 1: I got that report as a detective at 8, I'd
- 33:25Speaker 1: be on your porch at 9. 11.29 AM. Text from
- 33:29Speaker 1: July 21st, 2019. Lori to Chad. Found it. Ned gave
- 33:34Speaker 1: all of it to Rhonda. Chad to Lori. Glad you
- 33:37Speaker 1: found that out. Lori to Chad. It fits. Now she
- 33:40Speaker 1: will try to take him. Thanks for working on her.
- 33:42Speaker 1: Work on me too. Reading all this stuff makes me sick.
- 33:46Speaker 1: Chad to Lori, we will work hard on Rhonda when
- 33:48Speaker 1: we are together. I will get her numbers as low
- 33:50Speaker 1: as I can by Wednesday. Lori to Chad, good. Let's
- 33:54Speaker 1: work on it hard. Hart says Rhonda was the dark
- 33:57Speaker 1: spirit that inhabited Kay Woodcock, JJ's grandmother. 11.32 a.m. Hart
- 34:03Speaker 1: says he never saw any signs of grief or sorrow
- 34:05Speaker 1: from Lori or Chad. None, one Blake asks. Well, of course,
- 34:09Speaker 1: they don't care. No remorse. Heartless, disgusting monsters. 11.34 a.m.
- 34:15Speaker 1: Next slide. Chad to Lori on July 21st at 8.17pm.
- 34:19Speaker 1: James and Elena had agreed to visit the temple the
- 34:22Speaker 1: following morning. She returned to the hotel room, and after
- 34:26Speaker 1: additional romance on the couch, they calmed their nerves enough
- 34:29Speaker 1: to give each other a blessing. As James placed his
- 34:33Speaker 1: hands on her head, he connected with Elena's true eternal self.
- 34:37Speaker 1: He knew he has a presence of an exalted goddess
- 34:41Speaker 1: who had returned to Earth to perform a special mission.
- 34:44Speaker 1: This mission included being with him, and they would progress
- 34:47Speaker 1: together as translated beings. The full plan was not yet
- 34:51Speaker 1: completely clear to him, but the immense power radiating from
- 34:54Speaker 1: her confirmed his belief that she was among the greatest
- 34:57Speaker 1: women in the universe. Helicopters, volcanoes. 1137 AM, Chattelory. They
- 35:04Speaker 1: embraced following the blessing, and the emotions they felt were
- 35:07Speaker 1: a mixture of eternal bliss and telestial desire. The sexual
- 35:11Speaker 1: chemistry was undeniable, but the spiritual unity was was a
- 35:15Speaker 1: glorious bonus for them both. They had only known each
- 35:18Speaker 1: other for three weeks, but two lonely, misunderstood souls had
- 35:23Speaker 1: finally found their best friend that they could trust and
- 35:25Speaker 1: confide in. Lori responds that she loves it. Sounds like
- 35:29Speaker 1: some beat-ass, worked-ass, terrible novel that you would find in
- 35:34Speaker 1: the 15-cent bin during a library fire sale. 11.39 a.m.,
- 35:40Speaker 1: Chad to Lori. They arrived at the temple, and they
- 35:43Speaker 1: both felt that they should do ceilings together. They were
- 35:45Speaker 1: soon seated in a sealing room facing each other. Elena
- 35:48Speaker 1: looked so stunning as she smiled at him. She seemed calm.
- 35:52Speaker 1: She felt quite nervous. Their opportunity soon came to kneel
- 35:56Speaker 1: across from the altar from each other, and as the
- 35:58Speaker 1: sealer pronounced those sacred words, James and Elena knew that
- 36:02Speaker 1: they were now sealed as husband and wife for eternity.
- 36:06Speaker 1: As the earthly sealing was taking place, a similar scene
- 36:09Speaker 1: involving their spirits was happening on a higher plane where
- 36:13Speaker 1: they kissed and unified their souls. They knew that they
- 36:16Speaker 1: had just begun a new journey together, and that was
- 36:19Speaker 1: eternal and never-ending. Can you imagine the stupidity of these people?
- 36:24Speaker 1: The nonsensical BS that this dude's out here pitching? And
- 36:28Speaker 1: people sucking it up? And running around acting like all
- 36:36Speaker 1: this shit's real? 1142 AM. Hart says Chad and Lori
- 36:40Speaker 1: went to Gilbert, Arizona Temple together while they were both
- 36:43Speaker 1: married to other people. 11.43 a.m. We now see messages
- 36:47Speaker 1: from July 21st. Lori to Chad, it's making me so
- 36:50Speaker 1: happy to read about our life that I am finally
- 36:53Speaker 1: going to dance. Missing you and loving you from afar.
- 36:56Speaker 1: Lori to Chad, it was great. I feel free again.
- 36:59Speaker 1: I love you more than ever and can't wait to
- 37:01Speaker 1: be with you forever. I'm begging father and mother, that's
- 37:05Speaker 1: my job tonight. Chad to Lori, I'll be right beside
- 37:08Speaker 1: you begging just as much. I need you desperately. All
- 37:11Speaker 1: of these messages have multiple lip, fire, and or heart emojis. Yeah,
- 37:16Speaker 1: I'm sure God is completely down with you two stepping
- 37:19Speaker 1: out on your husband and wife. You morons. 1144 AM.
- 37:25Speaker 1: Hart says Chad and Lori had a clear plan to
- 37:27Speaker 1: be with each other together and forever. They were both
- 37:30Speaker 1: begging God for that to happen. Hart says Tammy Daybell
- 37:33Speaker 1: was alive when these messages were exchanged. Blake asks if
- 37:37Speaker 1: there was any indication of Chad planning to get divorced
- 37:39Speaker 1: or separated. Hart says no. Well, he couldn't because he'd
- 37:43Speaker 1: lose his exaltation. Whatever the fuck that is. 1146 AM.
- 37:48Speaker 1: Text on July 22nd. Chad to Lori. I love you.
- 37:51Speaker 1: Going with Garth in an hour to see the other
- 37:53Speaker 1: side of heaven, too. Missing you desperately, but so excited
- 37:57Speaker 1: to be with you. Lori to Chad. I love you.
- 38:00Speaker 1: You will enjoy the scenery. Looks like Kauai a lot.
- 38:03Speaker 1: Lori to Chad. Hopefully we will be there. someday soon together.
- 38:07Speaker 1: He responds, that is the plan and my greatest desire.
- 38:11Speaker 1: After the movie, Chad texts, hi darling, back from the movie,
- 38:14Speaker 1: we enjoyed it. I look forward to being on a
- 38:17Speaker 1: tropical island with you. Well, maybe not a tropical island,
- 38:21Speaker 1: but maybe, just maybe, you should both be bound together
- 38:25Speaker 1: after you're convicted and tossed directly into a volcano. Considering
- 38:29Speaker 1: how much y'all like Hawaii, well, let's just give them
- 38:31Speaker 1: their wish and let them rest forever and Inside the
- 38:35Speaker 1: loving embrace of the lava. 11.49 a.m. Chad texts Lori
- 38:41Speaker 1: on July 26th. I'm home, missing you immensely and feeling
- 38:44Speaker 1: very tired, but I had a splendid time with you,
- 38:47Speaker 1: my love. I will text again soon. An hour later,
- 38:50Speaker 1: Chad texts, tonight, I figured out who I feel like.
- 38:53Speaker 1: I'm a grown-up version of Harry Potter who has to
- 38:55Speaker 1: live with the Dudleys in his little space under the stairs.
- 38:59Speaker 1: Every few weeks, I get to escape and have amazing
- 39:01Speaker 1: adventures with my goddess lover, but then I have to
- 39:03Speaker 1: return to my place under the stairs, feeling trapped. But
- 39:07Speaker 1: I sense permanent freedom is coming. Well, I guess his
- 39:09Speaker 1: prophecy machine broke down, huh? Considering old Stunato over here
- 39:13Speaker 1: is never going to have freedom ever again. So pretty
- 39:16Speaker 1: funny that he was talking about permanent freedom only to
- 39:19Speaker 1: end up being locked up for the rest of his
- 39:21Speaker 1: bitch-ass life. 11.52 a.m. Chad shows little emotion in the
- 39:26Speaker 1: courtroom as his text messages are read. He occasionally writes
- 39:29Speaker 1: a few things on a notepad in front of him.
- 39:31Speaker 1: The jurors are focused, some taking notes, others reading the
- 39:35Speaker 1: messages on the screens in front of them. 11.53 a.m.
- 39:39Speaker 1: Messages from July 28th. Lori to Chad, are you mad, sad, what?
- 39:44Speaker 1: Chad to Lori, I'm doing okay, just no privacy here
- 39:47Speaker 1: to hardly text. and I'm missing you immensely. I feel
- 39:51Speaker 1: good about the trip. Lori to Chad, I need a
- 39:53Speaker 1: distraction while I'm waiting for you. I love you. Chad
- 39:56Speaker 1: to Lori, absolutely. I think you'll have a fun time.
- 40:00Speaker 1: Hart says Lori was going to take a trip with
- 40:02Speaker 1: Alex and Melanie Boudreau to Southern California. 11.58 a.m. Boyce
- 40:08Speaker 1: suggests that we break for the day until Monday. Court
- 40:11Speaker 1: is now adjourned. So there won't be the extra afternoon session.
- 40:16Speaker 1: and court has been adjourned for the weekend. So everything's
- 40:19Speaker 1: expected to pick back up on Monday, so that means
- 40:22Speaker 1: we'll be back on Monday, getting right back at it,
- 40:25Speaker 1: as the state of Idaho looks to convict Chad Daybell.
- 40:30Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
- 40:33Speaker 1: be found in the description box.