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How to trust your intuition and actually act on it with Jackie Gillies · Flow State Business

• 0:00
  Oh my God, you guys, I have the Jackie Gillis on the podcast today.
• 0:04
  Psychic medium and original cast member of The Real Housewives of Melbourne.
• 0:09
  If you haven't already followed her on Instagram, definitely go and do that.
• 0:12
  I'll leave all of Jackie's links in the show notes below.
• 0:16
  But oh my gosh, I was just saying to Jackie off the air that I've just spent the last little bit totally binging on the Instagrams, and all the accurate readings, and all the chills, and all the goosebumps.
• 0:29
  But I think what I really, really wanna hone in on today is you as a spiritual leader, and just being out there, like, in a big way, in media, being in the spotlight, because so many spiritual leaders are afraid of it, and they're afraid of how they're being perceived, and they're afraid of monetizing, and they're afraid of being famous, and they're afraid of all the things.
• 0:51
  So I definitely wanna scratch that itch there and talk to you about all things business and, oh my gosh, like, I cannot even speak anymore.
• 0:58
  Welcome to the podcast.
• 1:00
  Oh, thank you for having me, Ruby.
• 1:01
  I always say that there is no such thing as coincidences, and I feel like I was led here thanks to Marissa that is part of my team, and she also is a raving fan about you as well.
• 1:11
  And I absolutely love what you're doing too, so thank you for giving me the space to share this with you.
• 1:16
  Oh my gosh.
• 1:17
  Okay, we have to start.
• 1:18
  How did you begin even noticing that you had psychic abilities?
• 1:25
  Like, this is really where, I think… I mean, I'll let you sort of explain it, but I feel like everyone has a little bit, right, of, like, connection to source and, and source energy.
• 1:35
  But how did you realize that this is a true gift, that you could literally read people in such an incredible way?
• 1:42
  Look, the first thing that I say to every single person is everybody has what I have.
• 1:47
  However, and that little goosebumps you're getting down your arms, I'm feeling your frequency, girl.
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  However, so many of us do not know how to hone in and tune into it.
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  It is our birthright.
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  We are all born with intuition, but what happens along the way is that we get so caught up in our external environment, the way we were raised as children, what we absorb, and fear-based thoughts, not being consciously aware.
• 2:12
  So that blocks you from tuning in.
• 2:16
  So you asked me a question, um, I believe all of us have it.
• 2:19
  Everyone has what I have.
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  I just trust what I feel so much that I don't doubt it.
• 2:25
  If something says in my mind, "Don't walk across the street," I'm not walking across the street.
• 2:29
  So how it came for me, or not how it came for me, how I came back to knowing who I truly am is I was in a toxic relationship many years ago.
• 2:40
  Um, I always had seen and felt spirit as a young girl.
• 2:44
  And when I look back at it, and I get asked this question so many times, I thought it was normal to actually feel and see.
• 2:51
  And what I mean by feel and see, there were times that I would be playing with people and- Now I realize the people I was playing with were people in different vibrations and frequencies.
• 3:02
  Like, people say to me, "Do you believe in heaven?" I believe in heaven, but in different consciousnesses.
• 3:07
  That means that people go to different consciousnesses, from what I understand and, and what I've seen in 24 years of doing psychic medium reads, based upon your elevation as a soul, right?
• 3:18
  So I think the biggest thing that us as human beings need to remember is who we are.
• 3:21
  We are spiritual creative beings, right?
• 3:25
  And if we can, um, remember that through meditation, and boundaries, and learning how to feel the fear and do it anyway, and become consciously aware of your thoughts, then you open and expand your energy up to different vibrations and frequencies.
• 3:39
  So when I was younger and I would play with i- you know, these people, and I thought they were just people like me and you, they were, just in different vibrations and frequencies.
• 3:48
  And then as I got older, it turned off because of everyday life.
• 3:51
  School, you know, you're figuring your shit out, you're working out who you are, and da, da, da, da, da.
• 3:56
  And so I just kind of blocked it.
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  But it's interesting 'cause my mom said I would say, "Oh," I was playing with whoever, and people would be like,"Well, there's no one there." And I'd be like, "Yes, there is.
• 4:05
  Yes.
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  What?
• 4:06
  There, there is." And then as time went on, I completely blocked it out because I was, you know, coming to teenage years, and then, you know, 18 and 19, da, da, da, da.
• 4:17
  So the… I could be here forever talking about this.
• 4:19
  S- then I entered into a, um, into a toxic relationship when I was around 19 and a half, 20.
• 4:27
  Anyway, I was in this relationship for four years, had lost myself utterly and completely.
• 4:32
  And I remember I was sitting on my bed one day, and I've always prayed to God.
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  Um, I am Croatian.
• 4:39
  I was raised Croatian Catholic, but I never went to church.
• 4:41
  Like, I, when I say I never went to church, I went to church, you know, for Good Fridays or, um, weddings and da, da, da, da, da, like the European way, but never went on a Sunday.
• 4:50
  Like, for me, church is God, he's all, but God for me is a, is one source and expression of oneself, meaning we're all connected to that one source.
• 4:58
  And anyhoo, I was praying on the bed crying, and I said to God, "I have done everything the right way," the good Croatian girl.
• 5:06
  My parents, listen to them, I w- like, people know me on Housewives, that I'm very out there and very loud and, and am very confident.
• 5:12
  But let me tell you, when I was growing up, because of my strict father, who I love to death, and my mom and the way they raised me, their soft beliefs became mine.
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  So I had to unlearn all of that.
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  But in saying all of that, this toxic relationship took me to a place where it was very negative.
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  I went from a confident person, I was isolated, I was controlled, and it became a very toxic situation.
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  And one day I had a dream after I had spoken to God, "Why is this happening to me?" And I had this dream of myself in this relationship and what that would've looked like if I had have married him.
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  And then the next day, as again, I was crying on my bed, screaming at God, like completely hysterical, that is when everything opened up.
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  I saw a vision of every time this person ever cheated, every time, to the point of who he cheated with, even somebody that I knew of, da, da, da, da, da.
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  The next day I went to him, little goosebumps you're feeling, I said, "I know everything you've ever done." And because the accuracy was so pinpointed, it was like I was looking at a movie theater.
• 6:14
  It was like ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. And it was like the universe, God was saying, "This is why this has happened. This is your highest version of yourself talking.
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  This is why if you sat in this situation, you would be where… like, how this would've ended for you," in a very toxic, very manipulative situation.
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  But anyway, showed me everything that he had ever done.
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  And when I asked him, the first thing he said to me is, because the accuracy just shot him straight to his heart, was, "What friend of mine told you?" Yes.
• 6:40
  Oh my gosh.
• 6:41
  And I said, "God." And you know what, and when I said,"God showed me." And then he goes, "You're crazy." And that chestnut came in, right?
• 6:48
  That old chestnut.
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  Wow.
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  " You're crazy because I see you.
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  I see you." But then I had to look at my own life, Ruby, and say, "I could blame him-" And I did for a while, right?
• 6:59
  I had to do the inner work.
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  However, I enabled it.
• 7:02
  So I had to look at why I allowed this situation to occur.
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  The universe brought, God brought back my psychic, um, gifts that we all have through this toxic situation, and there was a time like I was driving, uh, you know, driving my car and I, and I didn't wanna be here.
• 7:19
  I wouldn't have gone to that extreme, but I believe every human being has, has been at their lowest and going, "What is this all for?
• 7:24
  Why am I here?" Like, I was at a point at my l- deepest, darkest despair, and I know that I was pulled out of it because the highest version of me, God, the universe, whatever it is that you believe in, was saying, "You got shit to do, girlfriend, and, and, and this is, you don't see it now, this mess, this trauma, this sadness, this mini breakdown has to happen for you to realize what you need to be doing." Wow.
• 7:49
  You know what's so unique about this story, and thank you so much for sharing this with us, is the fact that I've just been around a lot of psychics and I just absolutely just love, but the majority of psychics I speak to say they can't really see things for themselves.
• 8:06
  And, like, you're just like,"No, I saw the whole thing- Yeah play out.
• 8:10
  I saw every single aspect of my life play out." And the accuracy component, I think that is what just absolutely floored me.
• 8:18
  Like, you had one reading and you named their first name, their middle name, exactly what they… The mother's name, the grandmother's name.
• 8:26
  Like, I just feel that is so incredible, like the way you hone in- Thank you on that level of spiritual accuracy.
• 8:34
  I'm sure we can all relate, but like I've been to, you know, psychics in the past- Yeah … and they kinda tell you stuff, but then you've gotta work it out.
• 8:41
  Like, it's like, what does that even mean?
• 8:43
  You're trying to work it out.
• 8:44
  Like, yeah, maybe, or… But you just cut straight through.
• 8:48
  Yeah.
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  Like, how do you s- how does it feel?
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  Like, do you actually see the names flash up?
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  Do you see the actual images?
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  Like, what does it look like and feel like for you from the inside?
• 8:59
  Okay.
• 9:00
  So what happens with me, and it's really interesting because I've been doing psychic medium readings for 24 years, and I still even blow my mind at the accuracy.
• 9:07
  I've worked with police.
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  I have worked with all different types of people in my life.
• 9:12
  Um, like different, like I remember I did a reading, and I don't remember what I said, so I'm gonna get to the accuracy here for a minute, where this man had come in.
• 9:20
  So before I did The Real Housewives of Melbourne, I was already known in Warner's Bay as a psychic medium, and I had a three-year waiting list, right?
• 9:27
  So when I entered into becoming a psychic medium, I was pushed into it.
• 9:31
  I- if somebody would've said,"Jackie, you're gonna be a psychic medium," I'd be like,"Get the fuck out of here, bro." Like, "Yeah, right." I was working in corporate banking.
• 9:37
  I was doing my inner work, but that wasn't, girl, bye, I wasn't looking to become a psychic medium.
• 9:42
  It was only after going through that circumstance, and there's so many more stories, but we'll be here all day and we just don't have the time.
• 9:49
  But however, I was guided to working at Angels in the Lake, and with that- When I was doing the inner work and I allowed my energy to expand, what happens is when I do a psychic medium reading, and I did a reading for a man that was a director of a hospital, in fact a few of them, and he was so blown away, this is when I worked at, um, Angels of the Lake at Warners Bay.
• 10:10
  He goes, there's, he was Indian,"There is no way you could know this inform- This is not Google." Like, what the fuck?
• 10:17
  Like he was wigging out.
• 10:18
  Yeah.
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  And he asked me would I come into the hospital so they could measure my brainwaves.
• 10:21
  They wanted to see what part of the brain that I was, um, connecting to.
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  And I said no.
• 10:26
  No way.
• 10:26
  Yeah, and I said no, and there was a reason I said no.
• 10:29
  I said, "Because even though you've come here for a reading and a part of you says you don't believe, the universe brought you here.
• 10:35
  Now, what are you gonna do with that faith?
• 10:37
  What are you gonna do with that awareness, right?
• 10:40
  That I've given you something that nobody could know, and what are you gonna do with that 'cause you're coming from a science-based logical mind," and that's fine.
• 10:47
  But we're all energy, right?
• 10:48
  We're all vibration, we're all frequency, and we know that scientifically.
• 10:51
  So when you ask me how do I hone in, this is what I believe is something that I truly believe in the depths of my soul has been hidden from the human race, and I believe there are- Governments, institutions that are aware of it.
• 11:07
  We s- we can talk to military where they talk about the STARGATE pro- program.
• 11:11
  We can, um, look at thousands of interviews of people that are well-educated that have nothing to gain from saying, "We had to learn how to remote view." Um, I believe that there is a lot of people out there that wanna block us from understanding the true nature of energy and vibration and frequency.
• 11:30
  So when I give a reading, what happens is I go into a coherent state where I literally become one with that energy.
• 11:37
  So what I do is I remove myself out of my own emotions, my own feelings, and it's like my consciousness and my energy, my vibration, tunes into the Ruby vibration and consciousness, right?
• 11:48
  And right now I'm starting to feel, and even as I say this, is you've got a problem down your right-hand side of your lower back, and sometimes that comes from taking on the situation of your father.
• 11:57
  There's a lot of… You don't have to put this in.
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  There's a lot of, um, regrets your dad has from when you were a kid.
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  As soon as I walked in, I start seeing the patterns here, right?
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  However, um, to- 100%.
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  100%, yeah … I can see it, right?
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  But this is just, this is just me honing into the vibration right now.
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  So when you're asking me how does it come, so I essentially hone into your vibration, become one with your energy.
• 12:20
  So I'm feeling and seeing everything you've experienced, and then I start seeing snapshots of your future, but in this present moment through the vibration and frequency of every version- Wow of Ruby that has ever lived.
• 12:34
  Now people go, "What does that mean?" I believe that there is a million, um, versions of us living in different vibrations and frequencies.
• 12:41
  It's like deja vu.
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  And our consciousness is always vibrating simultaneously at different vibrations, and our duty as human beings, God's beings, whatever you wanna call it, is to understand our inner power to help elevate the human race with every vibration and frequency that we, um, enter into.
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  So I literally- Become one with your energy.
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  And what happens then is I start to see images.
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  Like, it's almost like I'm in you, but not in you, but I'm connected to your vibration and frequency with what I'm hearing.
• 13:16
  And then I just allow myself to hear whatever it is I'm hearing.
• 13:20
  There's this one, I remember I was on the morning show, and I was asked, "Is any reading ever weird you out?" And I said, "I don't remember when I give readings what I say," because it's not coming from me.
• 13:29
  I go into a current state, and whatever happens, and this is why I speak very fast.
• 13:33
  Some people go, "You speak very aggressively." It's not about being aggressive.
• 13:37
  It's about trying to get the information out so quickly, da-da-da-da-da, that if I don't get it move, and I'm, and I'm so passionate about what spirit's telling me, and it's kind of like I'm outside of my own body because I'm in that consciousness field that I believe is only one, and I'm, uh, it's like a radio signal receiving so much downloads about you or if I'm doing a live show, consciously protecting my own frequencies so I can open up to the one consciousness for everybody else's to give the messages that whoever's meant to receive it.
• 14:05
  So internally, I'm just removing my own emotions out so I can tune into yours.
• 14:11
  And one of the most bizarre readings that I've done, I remember that, um, and I remember this situation, not what I had said, but I can say it because police have hit me up about it, where I had given somebody a reading, I won't give names, and I had said that there was $20,000 behind an ax in a blue plastic bag rolled up in a shed exactly to the T where it was.
• 14:37
  Oh my gosh.
• 14:37
  The two people that had come through had been murdered to tell their son where this money was, and then, um, as time went on, this is back when I was working at Angels of the Lake, and then I created, and then I started my own business doing it myself without working at Angels of the Lake, and then I, um, received a visit from about 10 bikies telling me, well, one of them wanting a reading, one in particular saying to me, "I need to understand, are you an effing dog?
• 15:10
  Do you work for the police, and how do you know this information?" Because nobody could know this infor- he ended up booking in for a reading, but he rocked in.
• 15:17
  It was like this one moment was a cancellation, and I don't know how he got in, but I believe the universe guided this.
• 15:22
  Um, and he came in and, and the person that was murdered was their friends.
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  And, um, cut the story short, he wasn't going to intimidate me.
• 15:32
  I said, "Sit down. You're gonna come for a reading.
• 15:34
  Let's go." Sits down, I give him a reading, and he drops his belt at the end of it.
• 15:38
  Well, the, I'm talking about the bikie belt, and he said,"I'm out." This guy's about 65, and he was a, a leader of a, a particular, um, bikie, um, gang, and he said… And he starts crying, and he go- uh, 'cause I had s- also brought up information about him that nobody could know, and he goes,"I'm out." He, and he gave me his number, and he goes, "You ever need anything, you call me, because what you know shows me now that there is a God or there is something on the, on the other side that, that sees all." That sees all.
• 16:03
  Like, he was saying that I had told him things about his childhood that nobody could know.
• 16:08
  I'd given names and situations and da, da, da, da.
• 16:11
  So I essentially just removed myself from the, uh, from my own energy and hear it.
• 16:15
  And, um, and yes, any psychic medium you go to, I can tell you right now, should be able to tell you names, situations, peoples, and events, right?
• 16:23
  That nobody could know That nobody could know, that's ungoogleable, right?
• 16:27
  In a psychic medium reading.
• 16:29
  And they should be able to present things to you that can happen into your future.
• 16:34
  But the other thing with that is that energy doesn't sit still, expands.
• 16:38
  So I could tell you something, and then five years down the track it might turn out differently because you might decide you're moving to Japan.
• 16:43
  So you've directed that energy to another decision, so then it removes what could've come.
• 16:48
  Ooh, wow.
• 16:50
  Do you know what I mean?
• 16:51
  Yes, I do.
• 16:52
  And that's the free will, isn't it?
• 16:53
  That's just like everything, your whole life just changes with every decision that you make, which is the whole you live in millions of dimensions at one time, you know?
• 17:03
  And oh, wow.
• 17:04
  Okay, I need to ask you,'cause this is a really big component of a lot of, you know, people who listen to this, monetizing your spiritual work.
• 17:13
  We have to go here.
• 17:15
  So you've done a lot.
• 17:16
  You've done a lot, right?
• 17:17
  So you've done the, the private readings I'm sure when you started out.
• 17:20
  Actually, tell us, like when did you decide that you could actually monetize this?
• 17:25
  And w- what parts of you had to get out of your own way for that to happen?
• 17:30
  Okay.
• 17:30
  I grew up with a limiting belief system, so I had to do all the inner work.
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  So I had to undo everything I had ever been taught by my parents.
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  I didn't come from privilege.
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  I grew up in a house where I was bullied.
• 17:41
  My parents would give half their money overseas to Croatia.
• 17:44
  I sometimes would even have to help my own parents, um, financially when I was older.
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  I worked three jobs.
• 17:49
  I cleaned toilets.
• 17:50
  I worked at a place called the Silver Dolphin Restaurant from the age of 13 and a half.
• 17:53
  I know it's illegal, but… I even learned how to speak Chinese.
• 17:56
  «Ni hao ma? Ni hen len pai.» Like, you got no idea, girl.
• 17:58
  Like I, because I was working from 13.
• 18:01
  So, um, and I feel Chinese around you, too.
• 18:03
  So, however, this is what happened.
• 18:06
  So I understand what it's like to, um, have no money, clean toilets, scrub floors, scrub windows, work for next to nothing, have no money in the bank, and also have a, um, limiting belief system from my parents said,"We can't afford that." Like, oh, you can have one pair or two sh- pairs of shoes a year because we just can't afford it.
• 18:27
  Um, and so I understand what it's like to do the hard yards and work fucking hard, but I also had an inner knowing inside of myself that knew that I was worthy of something more, even when I was in this toxic situation.
• 18:42
  I used to write on a card from… Oh, yeah, on cards, I've even got this to prove it, from the age of four even I was, um, called to the principal's office for writing every single card, "Love famous Jackie.
• 18:51
  Love fame and I'm a manifesto.
• 18:52
  Love famous Jackie.
• 18:53
  Love famous Jackie." I did a vision board at 17.
• 18:56
  Everything on that vision board I have to this day, everything.
• 18:59
  Everything.
• 19:00
  From five pairs of legs walking down the red carpet, to properties, to da, da, da.
• 19:03
  From… When people go,"From how?" But I didn't come from privilege.
• 19:06
  I said, from energy and learning how to match that frequency.
• 19:10
  So how did I monetize?
• 19:12
  This is where it's really interesting.
• 19:15
  So at first when I did my first reading, I charged $30 for one hour.
• 19:20
  I was booked out… The first time I did a reading, I was booked out for like one week, then went to four weeks, and this is all within a three-month period.
• 19:27
  Then at Angels of the Lake, then it went to, um, six months, then one year, then two years, then three years, all within a four-month period.
• 19:33
  This was only word of mouth because when I started doing it, it was never of this social media, da, da, da, da, da.
• 19:38
  So I then understood when you start living in purpose and service, the universe responds to that vibration.
• 19:43
  Now, I remember I was nearly, um- draining my energy and not protecting my energy to a point where I was becoming so exhausted to make sure… I used to feel guilty.
• 19:55
  This is the s- the, the energy I'd come from because of the way I was raised by my mum.
• 19:58
  You gotta do everything for everybody else but yourself.
• 20:00
  So I'd keep giving readings at the expense of my own mental health and my own energy because I felt guilty for somebody that wants to know about their love life, or I felt guilty about somebody that lost somebody.
• 20:08
  Oh my God, keep doing these readings.
• 20:09
  Bust them out, bust them out, bust them out.
• 20:11
  Where one day, I just nearly collapsed and said,"Enough." And I was doing a meditation, and I do three meditations a day.
• 20:17
  And I was doing a meditation, and one day it said to me, when I say it, I'm talking God, energy, source, expression of oneself, said to me, "You need to set boundaries, and you need to know your worth.
• 20:29
  You need to charge.
• 20:31
  Charge properly." So I went from 30 bucks to 55 or 68, 'cause then I was like, "Oh my God, is people gonna pay for this?" Like they're gonna think I'm a, I'm a fraud, I'm a scammer.
• 20:42
  She's a psychic.
• 20:43
  How dare she charges?
• 20:44
  And then I had to, when I, then when I was doing the inner work, I've read every probably spiritual book you could think of.
• 20:50
  Um, the Game of Life, um, The Power of Your Subconscious Mind, Neale Donald Walsch.
• 20:54
  Like I've read it all.
• 20:56
  Louise Hay, Course in Miracles, um, Ab- Abraham Hicks, Wayne Dyer, like I've read them all.
• 21:01
  Where I had to understand the law of, um, energy and epigenetics and also the law of, um, resonance.
• 21:07
  So then I had to look at myself and go, "Why do I keep saying I feel bad to charge somebody because of somebody else's judgment?" Then I went from 60 to 150 for half an hour, then I went to 300, then I went to 600, then I went to 800, then I went to 1,000, I went to 1,200 for 30 minutes, right?
• 21:23
  Wow.
• 21:24
  But what people didn't know, Ruby- is that I used to give half my wage to charity for years.
• 21:29
  I never told a soul.
• 21:31
  That's one of the reasons I got the key to the city from, um, Natalia.
• 21:34
  Mm.
• 21:34
  She, she was aware of that.
• 21:36
  Um, I, I just never told a soul because when you give to charity, it's not about you going, "Look at me, I'm giving to charity." So even if somebody wasn't happy paying that I really… I mean, maybe they said it in their heads, and maybe I felt it.
• 21:47
  Well, I'm not, I'm not, not going to, um, charge because I'm offering a service, and I don't feel guilty for the service that I give.
• 21:54
  And I know that I'm doing this with pure intention.
• 21:58
  I know my worth, and if you don't want my service, that's fine.
• 22:03
  But it's a real stigma because it's spiritual.
• 22:05
  Some people go, "Well, you know, you're working with vulnerable people." And there's counselors out there and psychologists that work with vulnerable people, too, and they charge, I know of, over $2,000 or $5,000.
• 22:18
  And this is another interesting thing.
• 22:20
  When people talk to you about money, I am so not uncomfortable about talking about money because I know my intention comes from the right place.
• 22:29
  The ones that are judging me are the ones I'll say, "Stop.
• 22:32
  Let's look at why you're judging me." Because there's a version of you that's inspired by me or envious of me because you feel, "I wish I could have what that person has." Now you can.
• 22:42
  You can have it.
• 22:43
  So if you stop putting and moving that energy towards something that's negative, then… and then start looking at yourself and ask yourself why are you doing this and where is this story coming from, then you can capitalize and create your own life.
• 22:55
  So for me, I had to get out of my own way and stop feeling guilty.
• 22:59
  And with that, it transformed everything.
• 23:01
  And what people- again don't understand is with the money that I make, there's more things that I can do to help others on a bigger scale.
• 23:10
  And I don't announce what I do.
• 23:12
  It's like, I mean, when I went on the show I'm a Celebrity… Get Me Out of Here!, no other person gave money to the charity.
• 23:18
  I gave $25,000 out of my own pocket, and I didn't tell a soul.
• 23:22
  But now the network knew.
• 23:23
  That, like… Do you get what I'm…?
• 23:25
  So when people say things like that, and I don't need to tell people what I'm doing, then I go, "Well, that's on you." I'm not even gonna drive into that energy.
• 23:34
  So everybody that's listening here right now, you deserve to charge for your service.
• 23:40
  Who cares if nobody… If somebody's out there on your fucking social media going,"Oh, look at you. You're this, you're this, you're that." That's because you're moving in a way that that person wishes that they could move into, okay?
• 23:51
  If you know that you're doing it with such authenticity and doing it with true intention, and you're doing it, um, to help people on a bigger scale, you have nothing… You're always gonna win.
• 24:04
  But don't allow other people's securities to become your story, because I had to understand that whatever I was taught as a young child or absorbed is that that story is not my truth.
• 24:16
  My parents' story is not my truth.
• 24:18
  The way you were… I was raised, I had to actually go back, and I'm still, um, doing it, and I have to be consistent with it when an old story comes up and I do things out of guilt.
• 24:27
  I stop and go, "Hang on, that's an old story," because that's all I ever saw with my mum and dad, right?
• 24:33
  So my advice to everybody listening in, you know that your wor- And I'll tell you something else.
• 24:40
  Do you actually say,"Angela Jolie, why the fuck do you charge $15 million for a movie?" No.
• 24:45
  You go to the movies and you go and watch it, but nobody's banging on about what she's charging.
• 24:49
  No one's banging on that, um, you know, that somebody that's, um, a musician, like my husband, he can, um, earn really good money like a lot of musicians that I know, but what… Nobody's banging on about what they're earning.
• 25:05
  Yes, on a greater scale.
• 25:06
  And the other thing is, I don't want to attract people that are of that caliber anyway, that are negative, judgmental.
• 25:14
  In fact, I'd prefer somebody to unfollow.
• 25:16
  I don't give a fuck if I lost 2,000 followers tomorrow if they're not aligned with where I am.
• 25:20
  Why, why, why do I want that energy around me?
• 25:22
  Because the thing is, the more money that you make, the more people you can help, Ruby.
• 25:28
  Yes.
• 25:29
  Right?
• 25:29
  On different levels.
• 25:30
  You might start a charity tomorrow.
• 25:32
  Maybe you'll start something over here where you can give free time, and that's… There's other ways that you can swing that, so I don't feel guilty.
• 25:39
  And by the way, does anybody, um, talk about how much a barrister or a lawyer charges?
• 25:44
  No.
• 25:44
  People go, "Yeah, but they went and studied." So?
• 25:46
  Um, why would I listen to somebody that, um, hasn't experienced more than I have and isn't at the, um, financial level that I wanna be, but giving me advice?
• 25:55
  Mm-mm.
• 25:56
  That, that energy has to meet my energy.
• 25:58
  I love this.
• 25:59
  I love this so much.
• 26:00
  Thank you so much.
• 26:01
  That whole energy, that vibration that you've just shared with all of us, oh my God, it's so activating, Jackie.
• 26:08
  Thank you.
• 26:09
  You've just like, you've activated me in so many ways.
• 26:12
  Just oh my God.
• 26:14
  I love that, and do you know something else that just came to me psychically?
• 26:16
  What's interesting too is that, you know, people look at me and go, "You know, you're a psychic. There's many other psychics in Australia that don't charge as much," da, da, da, da.
• 26:23
  And sometimes the worst people that criticize you on your social media, and I know this factually because I've brought in forensic people to have a look, are the people you know.
• 26:34
  Exactly.
• 26:35
  No.
• 26:35
  In hiding.
• 26:36
  Yeah.
• 26:37
  Created a profile- Yes … and it's somebody that knows you or is, is your competitor, and that's so interesting.
• 26:44
  And then I bless them with love and light and off they go, but it's really interesting.
• 26:47
  People go, "Well, this person sold out in two minutes." I don't give a fuck if someone sold out in 10 seconds.
• 26:50
  I know that, um, I can sell out in 24 hours, or whatever that is, or under that, because of the authenticity.
• 26:56
  And the one other thing, Ruby, I'm gonna say that I want every, um, follower to really hear and absorb, is that you know when somebody is not telling the truth.
• 27:06
  Your energy tells you if somebody is not authentic.
• 27:10
  It shows you.
• 27:11
  It presents itself.
• 27:12
  Your body feels things before your logic co- like your logic mind catches up.
• 27:18
  So for me, when it comes to manifestation or understanding people, my body is already responding to that frequency.
• 27:24
  But what happens most of the time, and I teach this in Transform You, is that you then try to compartmentalize what you're already feeling.
• 27:30
  Mate, I'm gonna save you a year of heartbreak, and what… The heartbreak might not be something really negative.
• 27:35
  It might be I went and did this business deci- decision and I shouldn't have, but I li- didn't listen to my gut feeling.
• 27:40
  Because what we do is we compartmentalize, or somebody else will then go, "Nah, I reckon what you're feeling is, um, is true in your logical mind," but your body responds to that vibration first up.
• 27:49
  When you walk into a room and something doesn't feel right, you better fucking listen up.
• 27:52
  Yeah.
• 27:53
  Yeah.
• 27:54
  It's so true.
• 27:55
  I mean, there's… You probably get this all the time, but it's like when you get these collaborations and brands and things and then it's like there's moments, I actually just had one this week, where I was like- "This isn't right.
• 28:05
  The email doesn't sound good.
• 28:07
  The contract looks shit." But then there was a part of me that's like, "But they're paying you a lot of money, just say yes.
• 28:11
  They're paying you a lot of money, say yes." Like, it's great, you'll get a lot of exposure.
• 28:15
  But then the other side, like the intuitive side, is like,"Mm…" Like, my eye- I, I can feel it behind my eyes usually.
• 28:20
  It's like, you know, you start to squint a little bit.
• 28:23
  Even if you're reading something, it's like,"This isn't correct." Your vi- so your body, what's happening right now, Ruby, is your body's already assessing the vibration within that.
• 28:33
  So when I do a reading, say, on Zoom, people go, "How the do you know this on Zoom?" Because it's not about the Zoom, I'm just tuning into the oneness of consciousness, and you're tuning in to the consciousness of what you're reading from the vibration of whoever wrote it.
• 28:47
  So my Advice to you is, if it doesn't feel right, do not do it.
• 28:52
  Do you know that I have been offered TV shows, opportunities, and da, da, da, da, da, that has paid a lot of money, right?
• 28:58
  If it doesn't feel right, I'll do a meditation.
• 29:01
  I don't know if it's gonna be successful or not.
• 29:02
  Trust me on that.
• 29:03
  So I'll do a meditation, or I'll sit and, and think, okay, is this something that I wanna be part of?
• 29:09
  If, if somebody offered me… And this is a lot of money, okay?
• 29:12
  I can tell you right now.
• 29:13
  If somebody offered me $1 million and I've only got$1,000 in my bank account, because I know the law of the universe, I've seen it in 24 years of doing readings, if I say yes to something that is not aligned with me and it's not authentic, I'm going to create some sort of karma in the back end because I haven't been authentic to who I am.
• 29:31
  Now, my power is I know I can attract.
• 29:33
  So if I want to attract that, I then n- need to look at, how can I attract this in a way that's aligned to my action?
• 29:40
  Always say no when it doesn't feel right.
• 29:43
  Mm.
• 29:44
  No matter how much money it is.
• 29:46
  Yes.
• 29:46
  Because somewhere along the lines in that contract, you might be duped or something happens, and you go, "Oh my God, I actually entered into this and I earned this money, but now I'm in a situation where I'm in a legal fight because of something that happened that I was unaware of," which I've seen many a times in readings and working as a mindset coach, working with people where they didn't listen to their intuition.
• 30:07
  Yes, exactly.
• 30:08
  Oh, that's so good.
• 30:10
  And I feel like there's always, like, these reminders that, let's say, a million dollars, or a million-dollar opportunity comes through.
• 30:16
  It's showing it in one form, but it doesn't mean it won't come through another more aligned form, don't you think?
• 30:21
  It's like your… This is like your energetic, you know, boundary or whatever just going, "Hey, it's actually in your universe now." Don't have to take it in that form.
• 30:30
  That's right.
• 30:30
  It's your… So if you've attracted that, right, and you've removed the cap of your vibration, right, then that means that that opportunity's come because you've attracted it, so why can't you attract another million over here somewhere else through a, an, a, a desired effect, through a situation that is aligned with your heart, and you wake up and you don't feel anxious about it, and you wake up and you feel good about it?
• 30:53
  I mean, you know, there's so many things in life that we as human beings don't listen to within our own body.
• 30:59
  Our body's always responding to the vibration and frequency.
• 31:02
  And again, the biggest thing that every human being can do is understand their own vibration and frequency.
• 31:08
  And when something doesn't feel right, listen to it.
• 31:10
  Yeah.
• 31:11
  Well, how do you deal with something when it's like- you, you want something so bad.
• 31:16
  You know, it's like you want something so much, and it's so out of reach, right?
• 31:21
  You know, you're like, air quotes, out of reach, but you know it's meant to be for you.
• 31:26
  Like, that energy in manifestation is so fucking frustrating.
• 31:30
  Like, I… And it's one thing to be like, "I'm gonna meditate and I'm gonna try and call it in." But my- it's like how do you deal with it?
• 31:37
  'Cause you manifest so fast.
• 31:38
  Like, it comes into your reality so quickly.
• 31:42
  Like, what teaches things?
• 31:43
  Like, how do you do that?
• 31:44
  H- can you, can you fold the time?
• 31:47
  Can you reduce it?- Oh, you can bend reality, absolutely.
• 31:50
  But this is… And it's interesting.
• 31:52
  I'm gonna start with when I started doing, um, The Real Housewives over, what, I, I think that was 15 years ago when we first started, I was talking about manifestation even then.
• 32:01
  And even some of the people that interviewed me was like, "Oh, I don't believe in it," da da da, and now they're manifestation coaches themselves.
• 32:07
  All right, girl, I, I see you.
• 32:08
  And, but that's a brilliant thing that I was maybe able to teach you something.
• 32:11
  But when it comes to manifestation, it's really this simple, and I have manifested everything in my life, from Ben, to abundance, to myself on The Real Housewives of Melbourne, to I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here, to sold-out live shows, to selling out retreats and businesses, da da da, through alignment.
• 32:29
  So essentially, the biggest block in life is you and your thoughts and your vibration and where you are sitting at.
• 32:38
  So when you say how do you get the thing that you think's so out of reach, if you can see it, you can have it, right?
• 32:44
  But having it means that you have to come from the space of authenticity, intention, truth, and what it is that you're going to do with that desired outcome.
• 32:54
  So for me, uh, uh, if I'm going to manifest something, or when I first started manifesting and I was like, uh, let's say Ben, right?
• 33:02
  I was in a toxic relationship, didn't date for four years.
• 33:04
  And but I kept being consistent with, um, being the version of what I was calling in, even though it felt like so out of… Uh, you know, I had houses on the beach, I had houses in Europe.
• 33:15
  I had all these things.
• 33:16
  Even my own mum said, "Get my head out of the clouds." And everything on that vision board, I have to this day.
• 33:21
  Wow.
• 33:21
  Every single thing.
• 33:22
  And I had no money in my bank account.
• 33:25
  That's facts.
• 33:26
  So it was through aligned action.
• 33:28
  So when you're visualizing, you actually have to truly believe that you are deserving of what you're calling in.
• 33:35
  Now, if somebody says, "Okay, I want this house over here," but there's another part of you that doesn't really feel that you're deserving of it, now really feeling that, um, you're not deserving of it is learning about your nervous system.
• 33:47
  So the first thing is when you regulate your nervous system, how you understand if, um, a part of you doesn't feel that you're worthy of it- What happens when, okay, you feel good for a second, you get a- go about your day, and then all of a sudden a bill comes up.
• 34:01
  You've gotta pay $5,000, right?
• 34:03
  But you're telling the universe you want this house, and all of a sudden you fucking freak out, you wig out, and the reality that you're trying to call in isn't the reality that you truly believe is true because over here the$5,000 bill has just triggered something in your nervous system that doesn't state what you're trying to call in.
• 34:23
  So when you say it's frustrating, the frustrating part is not understanding that you've capped yourself and there's still work to do within your mindset, or there's still an old story within your mindset that usually comes from your childhood, your dad, your mum.
• 34:41
  You know, you've gotta work 9:00 to 5:00, and you say you want this, and then what happens is when it's not happening quick enough… And the other thing is surrendering.
• 34:47
  You don't like to surrender a lot.
• 34:49
  You like to control outcomes, and there's nothing wrong with that, 'cause I was like that too, and it's the way I was raised.
• 34:53
  But I worked out that trying to control contracts.
• 34:56
  But when you release, let go, and you live as if you already have it, and living as if you already have it, so if you get the $5,000 bill and you go,"Fuck, I'm trying to pay this$5,000 bill, but I'm trying to manifest this house over here," you stop yourself and you go,"What is it that I can control?
• 35:14
  My reaction to the $5,000 bill." So if it was me in that position, and it has been, and there's been times where I've completely fucking freaked out back in the day, I go, "All right.
• 35:24
  I've got a roof over my head." I start giving gratitude.
• 35:27
  I can see, so I'm gonna start removing the state of vibration I'm in.
• 35:32
  I can see, I can walk, I'm not disabled, I can work.
• 35:36
  So what are the things that I can do right now to help me elevate that, keep that vibration up here, but also remove the anxiety?
• 35:44
  So then I would think about the things that I can do right now to help pay that bill, right?
• 35:50
  Instead of allowing that bill to affect my vibration of this house I'm trying to call in.
• 35:54
  So if that meant I've gotta do extra shifts, or if that meant I've gotta fucking hustle and wash dishes back in the day, then that's what I'm gonna do.
• 36:01
  But I'm still gonna be in the state that I'm deserving of this home.
• 36:03
  I'm still gonna be in the state that this is just teaching me something that I need to learn right now, and that is being aware of the energy so it allows me to understand that I am deserving of the thing that I'm calling in, no matter what comes at me.
• 36:16
  So then you're showing the universe that your vibration can't be wavered, your frequency can't be wavered.
• 36:22
  So essentially, manifestation is about being an energetic match to what you're calling in.
• 36:30
  So if you're calling in a house, you're calling in a, um, in a lover, then you have to give yourself the love you'd give somebody else.
• 36:37
  You have to show yourself abundance.
• 36:40
  So when I was creating abundance, I would literally go to a five-star hotel and drink a fucking coffee.
• 36:45
  I'm dead s- I'm… That's it.
• 36:47
  Sit there, have a coffee, look around, feel the vibration, feel the frequency, feel how it feels.
• 36:54
  And then the other thing that I would do is, when I was single and I was trying to call in Ben, and I was calling in a home or whatever I was doing, I would literally take myself to a degustation.
• 37:05
  I was talking to a girlfriend about this the other day.
• 37:06
  Take myself to a degustation that might cost me 700 bucks with paired wines.
• 37:10
  I took… Even if there was$1,000 sitting in my bank account, because I'd be like,"No, I have this lifestyle and I'm deserving of this." Money always comes in, it's just a state of mind.
• 37:18
  It's a frequency of… It's a vibration.
• 37:20
  And I literally would take myself to, uh, a restaurant in Sydney or in Melbourne, pair it with wines, sit there, feel it, absorb it, know that this is where I'm meant to be, know that I'm worthy of this, no matter how the external life looks, because the energy that you're, um, internalizing and operating from is what the universe matches.
• 37:42
  It's the universe, it's the law of resonance I wanna know this, this is amazing.
• 37:47
  How do you apply this to your experience with media, PR, and speaking, and TV, and all of that, you know, on the fame spectrum side of things?
• 37:57
  Because I know that there's a lot of people that are, "I want this. I…" And even just listening to you, it's like you're a spiritual leader, manifestation mindset coach, and you've made fame out of it.
• 38:08
  Like, you know, so many people don't know how to do that.
• 38:11
  How does that, that, um, process that you just described apply to something like PR and fame?
• 38:17
  Like, especially for somebody who's got, like, no contacts, has no idea how it's gonna come for them or how it's gonna happen.
• 38:24
  Like, what happened with you?
• 38:26
  How did, how did your opportunities come about?
• 38:28
  Do you know what's interesting?
• 38:29
  People think I got on Housewives because of Ben Gillies.
• 38:31
  No, no, no, no.
• 38:32
  This is what no one said.
• 38:34
  I manifested it.
• 38:35
  Like I said, when I was 17, there was five pairs of legs walking down the red carpet.
• 38:38
  I didn't know 'em were.
• 38:39
  So what happened one day, I was sitting looking over at the beach.
• 38:42
  Ben was here.
• 38:43
  I was watching the TV, The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and I said to Ben,"I'm gonna be sh- on a show like this." This is verbatim.
• 38:49
  And he said to me, "Do you know how hard it is to be on a show like this?" I said,"Maybe for you, not for me.
• 38:54
  That's not my reality." The next day, unbeknown to me, literally the next day, I got a phone call from a friend that was on a TV show that said,"I have put you forward to an EP that said I have-" One of the stars for your show.
• 39:11
  I didn't know at that point what or who he was talking to, and I said, "What do you mean?" He goes, "Okay, you can't tell a soul." And nobody in Australia knew this.
• 39:19
  They're casting for a show called The Real Housewives of Melbourne.
• 39:23
  Facts.
• 39:23
  Facts, facts, facts.
• 39:25
  This boss had heard about Jackie in Newcastle giving psychic medium readings, had this three-year waiting list, to all types of people.
• 39:35
  No.
• 39:36
  Yeah, she'd heard, like famous people, and I never, ever announce who I give, um, readings to because everyone signs a contract.
• 39:41
  I've done readings for Hollywood stars.
• 39:43
  I've done readings for some of the biggest musicians in the world, but I will never announce that.
• 39:47
  So, but some- this particular person had heard about me, and then he had said, "And she's also married to the dude from Silverchair, and they're moving to Melbourne," which was true, because Ben was, um, collaborating with a musician and artist at the time, so we're going there anyway.
• 40:04
  And then this is how synchronized events happened, right?
• 40:09
  And then I get a phone call from the boss that said,"We're interested in having you on the show." And I said,"Yeah, I'm already gonna be on it." And she was like, "Ha ha." I remember her laughing,"Ha ha." She goes, "Well, you gotta come to Melbourne." I said, "We're coming anyway." So two days later, I'm on a flight to Melbourne.
• 40:24
  We're already, um, in the process of moving to Melbourne because of Ben.
• 40:27
  This is before we even knew about the, the show.
• 40:30
  And so what had happened was I go to a pub with her and a couple of other casting agents.
• 40:34
  But on the flight, I swear to you I remember this, I heard in my mind, "She's gonna test you." And I said to God, I said,"You've always gotta protect me.
• 40:43
  You want me to do this work, you have to protect me because I'm going to show basically the world what I do.
• 40:50
  And I know there's gonna be people that don't believe.
• 40:51
  There's gonna be people that try and say you're crazy.
• 40:53
  There's gonna be da, da, da, da, da.
• 40:55
  But I have a very strong sense of knowing of who I am that I can deal with that part of it.
• 41:00
  But I need you to protect what I do, and I need you to protect my work." So I go to the, um, pub to meet up with her and a few other people that are casting.
• 41:08
  She says to me, and I never do cold readings.
• 41:11
  She goes, "All right, what can you tell me?" This is facts, because she has told people all over the industry.
• 41:17
  I said, "Well, I don't give cold reading." She goes, "Well, you need to tell me something because I'm looking to cast you on the show." And at that point I was, I was annoyed.
• 41:23
  So I go, "All right." I said, "Your grandfather's here." And she goes," Mm, okay." She goes, "Oh yeah, well, what's his name?" And I s- and I had named before I'd said the grandfather, um- Like I just said in v- like vibes or in context that you've just gone through a, um, a breakup or a, a relationship breakup, and I had named her ex-partner and I had named one of the children.
• 41:44
  And this chick is not Google.
• 41:45
  This is not something you can Go- I didn't even know her last name.
• 41:47
  All I knew was a first name.
• 41:49
  I've not even know anything about the TV industry.
• 41:52
  Obviously bands in the music industry, but I didn't know who this chick was from a 10-foot pole.
• 41:56
  Then I said, "Your grandfather's here." And she's like,"Oh, yeah, yeah, right.
• 41:59
  What's his name?" And I said,"Yosef." And she goes, "That's not his name." I said, "Well, it is because he's standing right next to you." Oh my gosh.
• 42:08
  "His name is Yosef." She goes, "No, it's not.
• 42:10
  It is David." And I said, "It is Yosef.
• 42:13
  I believe what I hear.
• 42:15
  That's why I'm so accurate, thank you." I'm arguing with her, the big boss of the network, right?
• 42:21
  Unbeknown to me, she goes into the toilet, she rings up her mom, she goes, "Look, I'm casting a show, mom, da, da, da, da." She goes, "Oh, sh- she's a psychic medium and she's trying to tell me that my grandfather's name is, um, is not David." And she didn't at first say what I had said, the name I'd said.
• 42:37
  Then her mom turns around and says to her, she used, her mom used to be a doctor, and she goes, "Well, she's right." And sh- and, and the, the boss goes, "What do you mean she's right?" She goes, "Well- Your grandfather's real name is Yosef, but he changed it because he was a Holocaust survivor when he came to Australia.
• 42:55
  Oh my gosh.
• 42:56
  She completely wigged out.
• 43:00
  She came out crying.
• 43:02
  She hadn't smoked cigarettes in 10 years.
• 43:04
  She wanted a ciggie, I swear to God, wanted a ciggie.
• 43:06
  She goes, "How the fuck did you know that?" And I said,"Because the universe wanted me to be on this show," and I was the first one cast.
• 43:12
  She had told me that.
• 43:13
  Um, she goes, "There… What?" I said, "Because on that plane when I said, 'You need to protect me, you need to, um, you know, guide me the right way and, and put me, um, you know, with aligned action and, and, and…'" This is the things that I say every time that I enter into anything, and, and it has to be the right thing for me, and it has to be the right thing for my highest version of myself so I can help inspire people.
• 43:33
  But the fact, this is how, what, what happens in my readings.
• 43:37
  They will give me something that is so out of this world that cannot be known or challenged.
• 43:43
  Like, I even now, I still post testimonials of things that I say, and then it happens, the aftermath happens.
• 43:48
  I still get people on there going, "You Googled it." I'm like, I'm like, "You can say what you want.
• 43:52
  I already know the truth." Like, I've never Googled a person in my life.
• 43:56
  I don't need to because I, I'm resonant.
• 43:58
  I can understand energy.
• 44:00
  I understand, um, what it's like to go into a coherent state.
• 44:03
  I hear my spirits very clearly.
• 44:05
  I hear your vibration very clearly.
• 44:07
  So anyway, the Yosef situation, she was completely wigged out.
• 44:11
  And then I did a reading for a man called Brian Walsh that was the head of, that was the CEO of Foxtel, and, and he's now passed away.
• 44:19
  And the reading was so accurate that he goes back to the team members, and he actually said,"Who the fuck told Jackie Gillies any information about my life?" And they're like, "What?
• 44:30
  The, wh- what are you ta-" He goes, "She knew things that nobody could know.
• 44:33
  She knew about this house that I was doing.
• 44:35
  She knew about this grandfather's name and my uncle's name, and da, da, da, da." And they're all going, "Well, we don't even know that man." Like- But he was like the bo- the… Brian Walsh is, was the big boss of, of Foxtel, and I had given him a reading and, um- And he was just blown away.
• 44:51
  You know, that was … And that's how I got on the Housewives of Melbourne.
• 44:54
  Oh my gosh.
• 44:55
  The universe guided me there.
• 44:56
  So when you say, "How do you attract?" You just tell the universe, and you talk to your highest version of you, and you say, "This is what I truly … This is what my heart desires." If your heart truly desires it, and you truly believe it, there's nothing else that the universe cannot do rather than give you the thing that you're calling in.
• 45:13
  And the other thing that I would also say is when you're visualizing and you're, and you put focused intention out to the universe, and that means the, the frequency and the vibration, and I'm a believer, as we know in science, everybody's made up of atoms and particle, and I believe we're made up of every single thing that is living consciously.
• 45:30
  When you can become one with the thing that you're calling in, it's like reverse engineering, um, Ruby, um, Ruby Lee.
• 45:36
  It'd be like, okay, if I want this, this, and this, how would the highest version of Jackie Gillies react and decide to everything that comes my way at the highest version?
• 45:46
  So if I'm at the highest- Mm-hmm version of myself and I'm a worldwide global mindset coach, um, then I would say,"What decision would Jackie Gillies be making right now?" Because what I'm doing is I'm shifting from the old identity into the new identity, and that's bending time.
• 46:04
  It's bending reality.
• 46:05
  You're tuning into that vibration, and the new identity of that is becoming one, and that's where the universe responds to it.
• 46:12
  Ooh.
• 46:13
  Okay?
• 46:14
  Whoo.
• 46:14
  So you reverse engineer.
• 46:16
  So anything you want, girlfriend, you go, "Okay, how would the billionaire Ruby Lee act right now?
• 46:22
  Would she be sitting here faffing around, crying over a dude?
• 46:24
  Fuck no.
• 46:25
  Would she be sitting here faffing around about a deal that she lost for 200 grand?
• 46:29
  No.
• 46:30
  She would actually go, 'Not meant to be.
• 46:31
  Thank you very much.
• 46:32
  God bless.'" So, you know, people are saying, "Are you gonna come back to The Real Housewives of Melbourne?" If it feels aligned, I will.
• 46:38
  If it does not, I will not.
• 46:39
  Um, if I … Somebody says to me, "Do you want to, um, you know, start a business over there?" I'll only do that business if it feels aligned, if I know I'm gonna help people, if I'm gonna help the people around me.
• 46:50
  Wow.
• 46:51
  Have you ever, have, have you ever got that wrong?
• 46:56
  Have you ever followed that and then you've just decided, at some point you're like," Well-" I, yes, I have over I'm still a human being.
• 47:05
  I'm not perfect, man.
• 47:06
  I mean, I predicted my children, which mean- No, you're so accurate with everything.
• 47:10
  I am accurate, but I'm talking about if I was so accurate with my own life, then what is the point of living as a human being right now in this reality?
• 47:16
  I still have lessons to learn, man.
• 47:18
  It's just that I'm just more aware, consciously aware.
• 47:21
  I'm, I believe I'm just a gunner, not sitting in the state of anxiety for longer than maybe 20 minutes.
• 47:27
  I will change that vibration instantaneously because I know if I don't, then I'm gonna lag on and, and s- keep creating the things I don't wanna create, right?
• 47:37
  And I know how to say no to things that don't serve me.
• 47:40
  Family members, friends.
• 47:41
  If something doesn't serve me, why am I gonna then give all my energy over here to somebody else that takes me away from manifesting the biggest version of what I need?
• 47:49
  I don't have time for that.
• 47:50
  And the biggest thing that I've probably got going for me is, as a psychic medium, I speak to spirit every day, and one of my hashtags is, I'm gonna use this, Marissa, um, for, for everything that I do, is what is your story gonna be?
• 48:03
  If I drop off in two seconds, I'm gonna go, "What the fuck was I worrying about that bullshit over there for?" I don't have time for that shit.
• 48:09
  I need to get going, man.
• 48:10
  I don't wanna be up here wavering, 'cause so many spirits come back and say to me I lived my life everybody else's, saved my coins.
• 48:18
  They've got 200K sitting in their bank account, but they never fucking traveled.
• 48:21
  They didn't do anything for themselves.
• 48:22
  I ain't doing that.
• 48:23
  Because when you come into this world, you come into this world by yourself, and you leave it by yourself.
• 48:29
  You don't leave with your children, you don't leave with your partner, you don't leave with your parents, you leave by yourself.
• 48:34
  Yeah.
• 48:34
  Yeah, we're gonna live every single moment, don't we?
• 48:37
  Every single moment.
• 48:38
  Yeah.
• 48:39
  And I, of course, I've got it wrong.
• 48:40
  Sorry, I didn't answer that.
• 48:41
  You said have I ever got… Yes.
• 48:42
  I'm talking about, like, when I've tried to do things quickly, when I've tried to control an outcome, right?
• 48:47
  Back in the day- Mm … where I'd be like, "Okay, let's start this." And then I'd be like, "Oh, this is good.
• 48:51
  Let's just try and, um, control how this looks." I'm writing as I'm speaking to put me in a coherent state.
• 48:56
  And so as I'm, like, writing or I'm seeing, I'd be like, "Let's move this quicker." It's when I try to force a situation- Mm … to be on my time- Yes… instead of the universe time.
• 49:05
  Yes.
• 49:06
  Divine time.
• 49:07
  Oh, that is so… That, I'm just saying yes, and I'm like, that's exactly what I've tried to do many a time, and I'm like, that is the thing.
• 49:14
  Where it's like, why not now?
• 49:15
  Like, I want it to be now.
• 49:17
  And it's that, like, impatience.
• 49:19
  Because it's not the right time.
• 49:20
  You want it now because you think that you're worthy of that, but it's not actually you thinking you're worthy.
• 49:25
  You know what it is?
• 49:25
  It's 'cause you hate fucking waiting around.
• 49:26
  Exactly.
• 49:26
  My biggest lesson is I want everything yesterday.
• 49:29
  You got no idea.
• 49:30
  Like, I'd be like, "Oh, man, I don't wanna…" Like, okay, waiting for two years doesn't sound great, but then that two years, or whenever it comes, I know it was the perfect time because then everything matched my vibration.
• 49:41
  Exactly.
• 49:42
  Oh, my gosh, Jacqui, I… Like I said, I could keep going.
• 49:46
  I could talk to you forever.
• 49:47
  I know that you've sold out your Bali retreat- Yeah … and you are always so in demand.
• 49:52
  But what's next?
• 49:53
  Like, where can we find you, whether it be in person, online, like, where can we get into your energy?
• 49:59
  Because this is just so fucking inspiring.
• 50:02
  Oh, you're so… Ruby, I love you, girl.
• 50:05
  Um, by the way, you need a massage in your neck,'cause it's completely out.
• 50:08
  Oh, I know.
• 50:09
  I always- I know … yeah, I always do.
• 50:11
  Like, I sit at this fucking table- I know, right in here, girl, as I'm looking, I'm, "Oh, her neck's out, man." Yeah.
• 50:15
  Um, no, get that all massaged, eh?
• 50:17
  My masseuse sees me coming, she's like, "Oh, my God, the neck girl." I can, I can fe- I can feel it.
• 50:22
  Um, and it's all in here.
• 50:23
  That's tension, girl.
• 50:24
  That's, that's family stuff.
• 50:25
  Yeah.
• 50:26
  That just means releasing.
• 50:26
  Yeah.
• 50:27
  That's all that is.
• 50:27
  Oh, do you know why?
• 50:28
  Releasing.
• 50:28
  Because they're coming tomorrow and staying with me.
• 50:30
  That's why.
• 50:32
  And they'll be like,"Robyn, what are you doing?" I can feel it.
• 50:35
  Shut up.
• 50:35
  Feel it.
• 50:36
  Oh, fuck.
• 50:37
  You literally just sounded like my mum.
• 50:38
  And you're gonna think about me and just… I know.
• 50:39
  And you'll be, like, rolling your eyes, "Yes, Mom." And then she'll be like, "You're getting older." Like, "When are you getting married?" I can hear it.
• 50:49
  You're so funny.
• 50:51
  I love it.
• 50:51
  What food are you eating?
• 50:53
  Yeah, seriously.
• 50:53
  Do not put on weight.
• 50:54
  Yeah.
• 50:54
  I hear her saying that.
• 50:56
  Like, I've… Or old school, like, she's in them.
• 50:58
  Oh, my God.
• 50:59
  Listen, it, it's like my Croatian family.
• 51:01
  What… And the worst bit, like politically incorrect, you should never use the word fat, but I've got an old, like, Croatian… When I say old, she's not that old.
• 51:08
  I mean, she's sitting in her 80s, and I, and I mean that, like, in energy.
• 51:12
  She, like, one day she goes,"Jackie, you're getting fat." And I went, "Kuma?" Well, yeah.
• 51:16
  Yeah, that's such an Asian thing too.
• 51:17
  I'm like, "Kuma?" Yeah.
• 51:17
  Yeah.
• 51:18
  And she's like, "You don't wanna be fat." And, but she's old school Croat.
• 51:21
  Like… And I was like, "Okay.
• 51:23
  Thank you." Seriously.
• 51:25
  Yeah, I get that all the time.
• 51:26
  "Oh, your face looks fat today." I'm like, "Excuse me?" I know, I know whoever's hearing this, it's not great, but it's old school.
• 51:36
  You can't change the old school mentality, man.
• 51:38
  Like, hello?
• 51:40
  Uh, like, but I actually laugh.
• 51:41
  Um, I even… I'll tell you something really funny.
• 51:43
  Um, I have a friend and she's around 75 and she's Croatian.
• 51:49
  She lost her husband.
• 51:50
  She goes, "Jackie." I'm gonna put the full accent on.
• 51:53
  She goes, "Jackie, if he comes back, I jump over the fucking Harbor Bridge." I went like, and I was like, "Oh, Jesus." Oh, Jesus, Mum, I pray to God every day, if you can't come back, I'll jump off a bridge, and I start laughing.
• 52:06
  Love it.
• 52:06
  I like her- I love it … she's hilarious.
• 52:08
  But let me come back to where you can find me.
• 52:09
  Yes.
• 52:09
  Obviously, um, yes, my retreats have sold out, and I'm very blessed.
• 52:14
  You know what?
• 52:15
  I don't chase, Ruby.
• 52:16
  I don't chase, I attract.
• 52:17
  I, I don't chase money, I attract it, okay?
• 52:22
  And I always say that, um, whoever works with me, I'm actually very blessed 'cause I have the best team, right?
• 52:26
  But I'll tell you something that I do do, and I teach this in Transform You.
• 52:29
  You can go to jackiellios.com and come to my web shows.
• 52:31
  You can see all the courses and things that I do if you wanna go into that.
• 52:34
  But this is not about trying to sell myself.
• 52:36
  If you, if you feel aligned, then come.
• 52:37
  This is how I look at it.
• 52:39
  I'm very lucky that I, I have such an amazing team.
• 52:42
  I've got Marissa, I've got Tao, I've got other people that work with me, and I'm a believer that it's not just me that, um, does that.
• 52:47
  I attract the right people in my life to help me elevate.
• 52:50
  And, you know, you use the word fame.
• 52:52
  I feel very uncomfortable about that word because what it does is it makes me feel like I'm better than somebody else, and no, I'm fucking not.
• 52:58
  And I reckon and believe, truly believe one of the reasons that, um, that people connect with me and I'm able to sell out and do the things that I do is because I come from a place that's truthful and authentic, and I don't believe I'm better than anybody else.
• 53:12
  I'm not in it to, um, be famous.
• 53:15
  I'm in it to show what I do so I can help people on a greater scale.
• 53:20
  Having a public profile gives you that, right?
• 53:23
  It gives you that way in to be able to help people globally.
• 53:27
  So what's next for me is Knock Knock, my YouTube channel, that I will be, um, working on.
• 53:32
  And I wa- and so many people go, "Why aren't you doing famous people like everybody else?" I said, "Why the fuck would I do famous people?" I wanna help people that, um, that don't have public profiles.
• 53:41
  I prefer to be helping somebody that's lost a child.
• 53:43
  Like I, I don't need more followers.
• 53:46
  Yeah.
• 53:46
  What I need is to be able to help people on a greater scale, right?
• 53:50
  Yeah, and to wake up.
• 53:51
  Yeah.
• 53:51
  It's not about chasing fame.
• 53:53
  That's wrong intention.
• 53:54
  That's ego.
• 53:55
  I'm not coming from that space.
• 53:56
  Um, but I also do this, and, and you'll take this, and the, the listeners will take this too.
• 54:02
  Every three months, and I've had people in my life that I've worked with that I've find very quickly if they're jealous or envious.
• 54:10
  If somebody's jealous or envious, you're out, and the universe shows me.
• 54:12
  So every three months what I do is I'll, um, ask the universe whoever's meant to be in my life, bring them forward, and who is not, take them away.
• 54:19
  And I'll start seeing, uh, the words are warning signs, but I start seeing things about situations that shouldn't be where I am if they're not aligned with who I am.
• 54:27
  That doesn't mean they're bad people.
• 54:29
  What they're doing is they're just looking at me going,"Well, she's making this, this, and this." If you come from a space of jealousy, you're gonna start capping yourself.
• 54:34
  You're gonna start blocking yourself from creating extreme wealth yourself.
• 54:37
  Because I wanna help people get there, but if you become jealous or envious or angry or frustrated, then what will happen is, um, the universe will respond to that, and you're coming from a place of scarcity, and then you think you're not deserving of it.
• 54:50
  But I can't have that energy in- In my any environment because if I have that, then it's gonna bring my vibration down.
• 54:58
  I've done my inner work, and I'm still doing the inner work, and I'm gonna do it for the rest of my life.
• 55:02
  But the facts are I want energy to meet me where it goes.
• 55:05
  And as for my team, I wouldn't be where I am as well, I attract, without attracting the right people around me at Ruby.
• 55:12
  Mm.
• 55:13
  And the right community.
• 55:14
  Yes.
• 55:14
  The people that I help over the years or the people that are part of my community, as your community, are there because they resonate with you, they connect with you.
• 55:23
  I don't need to… You know, sometimes the content people will say to me, "You gotta do more content." I'm like,"No, I don't fucking wanna do more content right now.
• 55:29
  I'm not into it." Yes.
• 55:30
  Like, I'm dead set.
• 55:31
  Uh, maybe I'm not going to do it.
• 55:32
  And they're like, "Well, yeah." No, I actually do not because, um, I don't need to… Uh, when I say I don't need to, that's not the right word.
• 55:39
  I'm not gonna use that word.
• 55:40
  What I'm gonna say is that- Me making sales isn't dependent, right, on what I put out on social media.
• 55:49
  What it's dependent, uh, on is the vibration I'm putting out to the universe.
• 55:53
  Now, the content part then aligns with the vibration I'm putting out.
• 55:58
  Yeah.
• 55:58
  Do you get what I'm saying?
• 55:59
  Lovely.
• 55:59
  So if I put out a piece of content and my frequency or vibration isn't feeling it, it's not gonna fucking land.
• 56:06
  So true.
• 56:07
  Yeah.
• 56:07
  It's gotta be organic.
• 56:08
  People can smell a rat, man.
• 56:10
  Oh my gosh, Jackie, I just literally, literally just taught a room full of people about this theme.
• 56:16
  So thank you so much.
• 56:18
  It's so true, because I think we just get so caught up with trying to be an influencer, trying to be famous, trying to be seen, trying to go viral.
• 56:27
  That's wrong intention.
• 56:28
  It's so true.
• 56:28
  There's so many… A- and this is something I want everybody to hear that's, um, all of Ruby's community and my community, is that listen to me when I say this.
• 56:35
  I have done tens of thousands of readings in 24 years, and I've done readings for some of the biggest influencers in the world, in this country, and let me tell you, what you see there is not true.
• 56:47
  Okay?
• 56:48
  Stop comparing yourself to the influencers.
• 56:51
  Stop comparing yourself to the fake lifestyle, because your heart can tell… Listen, do you know how many people I've done readings for, and this really breaks my heart, where the parents have come and a child's taken their life because they've compared themselves to a ridiculous life that's not true, um, or they, you know, compare themselves to a life where they go, "Oh, that person's famous and they've got this lifestyle that I seek," and then bullying happens through social media.
• 57:16
  The bigge- look, social media is a service and a disservice.
• 57:18
  Service for your business, a disservice, I believe, to mental health.
• 57:21
  It takes us away from being grounded.
• 57:23
  It takes us away from learning about our own inner power.
• 57:26
  That's, that again, I believe that all of this is another strategy to keep us away from understanding our own inner power.
• 57:33
  So everybody's sc- I've studied before, but it's, it's a mechanic, it's a mechanic to actually make us become addicted- Yes… to the bullshit And by the way, most of the, um, founders of these situations aren't sitting around scrolling, man.
• 57:46
  They are very grounded.
• 57:48
  They meditate.
• 57:49
  I've done some readings for some of the biggest founders in the world, and the one thing they all have in common is they do meditation and they stay grounded because they understand their inner power.
• 57:57
  Yes.
• 57:57
  Oh, that's so juicy.
• 58:00
  I'm so inspired.
• 58:02
  Thank you so much, Jackie.
• 58:04
  Like, honestly, you are an incredible teacher, healer.
• 58:09
  Aw.
• 58:10
  I, I think you're giving me too mu- no.
• 58:12
  No.
• 58:13
  I just happen to be me and I'm just teaching what I… You know, the reason I started all these businesses and events and da, da, da, da, da, is because the one thing that I said and I heard in my meditations, how I created everything, and, and this is for you to understand too, is that- I say if it can… This is my biggest thing, if you can help one person in your life, then you're doing your job.
• 58:33
  This is what I believe every human being, we've gotta find our gifts, we've gotta find what, what our gifts are, and we've gotta lean into those gifts so we can help elevate the human race.
• 58:41
  This, it, it becomes a ripple effect.
• 58:43
  And for me, I believe too that, um, the universe will always respond to intention, and I'm no better than anybody else.
• 58:51
  I created all these things, retreats and courses and da, da, da, da, 'cause one day in a meditation I had heard, you need to teach people what you've taught yourself.
• 59:01
  Yeah.
• 59:01
  And that's, and that's essentially what you're doing.
• 59:04
  Yeah.
• 59:04
  You're teaching them your truth.
• 59:05
  Yes.
• 59:05
  You're teaching them the hard yards you've gone through so they don't have to.
• 59:09
  And you deserve to char- in fact, you should be charging more, Ruby.
• 59:13
  Like, dead set.
• 59:14
  So, hello.
• 59:15
  Like, charge more.
• 59:16
  Okay.
• 59:17
  I'm doing it.
• 59:17
  I'm charging more, and I'm getting a neck massage.
• 59:20
  And a Reiki clearing.
• 59:22
  And a Reiki clearing.
• 59:23
  Okay, I haven't had that in a while, so I need to do that.
• 59:25
  You need one.
• 59:26
  Yeah.
• 59:26
  Go see my Reiki healer, Monica Kwong.
• 59:28
  Oh.
• 59:29
  Where is she?
• 59:29
  She's amazing.
• 59:29
  Cooks Hill in Newcastle.
• 59:31
  Okay.
• 59:32
  No way, my husband's going there tomorrow.
• 59:33
  How crazy.
• 59:34
  Yeah.
• 59:35
  Wow.
• 59:35
  Anyway, there you go.
• 59:36
  I'm just going to follow along now.
• 59:38
  Thank you so much.
• 59:39
  Honestly, Jackie, thank you, thank you, thank you.
• 59:40
  I loved it, every minute of it.
• 59:42
  I'll be very close by, I'll be following you, and, and I'll come to one of your events.
• 59:47
  I'll be following you too.
• 59:48
  I'm so… Look, do you know what I do?
• 59:50
  I have a team that does all the social media.
• 59:52
  Sometimes I get on there and post, but there's a reason that, um, I stay away from social media, 'cause I need to be grounded.
• 59:57
  I love that.
• 59:58
  Yes.
• 59:58
  You have to be, because you have- Yes … to manifest, y- and you need to do the same thing, and manifest that baby.
• 1:00:02
  Yeah.
• 1:00:03
  Yes.
• 1:00:03
  I love that.
• 1:00:05
  Love that too.
• 1:00:06
  Thank you so much, my love.
• 1:00:08
  You are the absolute best.
• 1:00:09
  Thanks for having me.