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The Tech Co-Founder Myth: Building Without Coding · Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint

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Hello and welcome. Today we're going to look at
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whether you have to move to Lagos to be a founder.
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Because nowadays people have this idea that before you blow,
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before you hammer, before you execute, before you move on your
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product, before you move on your service, that you have to be in
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Lagos because Lagos is where it's at.
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And if you are a Nigerian of a certain age, you know, I'd
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understand that you think that way because I remember back in
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the day when there was Style Plus and also this guy, 6 Foot
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Plus. You know, they used to be ABJ
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boys musicians, Style Plus. You know, they were like the
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Nigerian version of we say like boys to men.
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Yeah, but the way ABJ boys, you know, they never moved to Lagos.
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Then there was also 6 Foot Plus. 6 Foot Plus was a rapper and he
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never made that move to Lagos. Then there was a Terry the Rap
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man and you know, also like an Abuja, you know, just boy.
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He never quite moved to Lagos. But then we all know about MI
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Mr. Abaga himself, Mr. Incredible and his whole crew at
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Chocolate City. You know, they used to be, I
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think they used to be just boys and they moved to Lagos and then
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Chocolate City became, you know, Big Hit became a powerhouse on
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the music scene. In fact, I think Mr. MI, he no
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longer raps, but I think he's now currently like head of
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artists and repertoire, Chocolate City Records.
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I think then of course, you also know P Square, because P Square,
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they used to be, I think, I'm not sure if they were, if they
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went to uni, Josh Bush had they too.
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You know, they, they took the plunge, you know, they moved to
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Lagos. Then I think those plantation
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boys, sorry, no, not P Square. I think P Square, they're
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actually Lagos boys. Then I think they, they got put
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on by Benson and Hedges that, that music, music show.
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I know some of you are like, what the hell is this guy
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talking about? Now?
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Don't worry, you have to be of a certain age to, you know, to
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understand or to remember some of these things.
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Then there was who, again, apart from P Square, I can't remember
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who. But anyway, you get the point in
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Nigeria's development or in the development of the entertainment
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industry in Nigeria at a certain time, if you are not in Lagos,
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you are not serious. If you know entire lag, it means
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you know I'm start, it means you know, I'm blue.
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Now things a little bit different because now we have
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this guy flip flavor. Yeah, flavor, flavor.
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Nabania, you know, he's still in the East, you know, still and
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he's got a number of boy. But anyway, flavor is still in
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the East and, you know, he's still getting things, you know,
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to, to, you know, to pop off. So nowadays there's some
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liberty. You can stay in the East.
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You can say I'm an ebow. Yeah, I'm an ebow boy.
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I'll stay in the East and I'll still blue, you know.
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But at a certain time in Nigeria, if you are in
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entertainment space and you have not moved to Lagos, you are not
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serious, You have not started. Even these guys are remedies.
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Yeah. Idris Abdul Karim and Russo.
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I think Idris Abdul Karim was a carnal boy, but to Blue, Idris
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have to relocate, come down to Lagos campaign dues in Lagos
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before the guy blew. So for the music industry, that
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used to be how it was for a while.
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Even in Weibo territory. You know that's how it used to
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be. In fact, some people who say
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it's still the same that if now music like country music and you
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want blue, you suppose enter the Texas and I can't remember then
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if it's movies and you want blue, you suppose enter
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Hollywood, you understand. So I guess we can ask a
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comparable question that in Nigeria today as at the time of
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making this episode, if you want to blue as a founder, if you
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want people to be singing your name from now on to the ends of
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time as one of the Nigerian big boys, big girls, you founded
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your Unicorn, your whatever. Do you have to relocate to Lagos
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before you come blue or make it big as a founder, as a startup
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founder? Now my answer is maybe, maybe.
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And This is why because definitely you need access to
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some founder networks before you come blue.
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The reason why you need access to founder networks is because,
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well, first of all, they give you a certain measure of
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confidence in your idea because you'll be talking about, you'll
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be talking to a couple of people who are also launching different
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kinds of startups, doing different kinds of things.
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So from watching and hanging around other people, you will
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get a fair sense of, OK, this is working, this is not working.
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So that might be good. Then hanging around founder
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networks in Lagos or in Osho or in Ogun, Let's see where else.
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OK, In Abuja, they have some incubators here.
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I think in Kano they also have some incubators.
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So hanging around those parts of Niger, especially Lagos, because
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Lagos is obviously the the home for this kind of activity.
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It'll give you access to social capital when you're in these
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founder networks. And remember over here on the
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podcast, when we say social capital, what we mean is what
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you know and who you know. Whether we like it or not, these
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things are absolutely essential to popping off in business and
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being successful. You need to know the right
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things and you need to know the right people.
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Of course, you also have to execute.
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So if you know the right things, you know the right people, but
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you're not executing, then you know nothing for you.
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So that's one of the advantages of moving to a place like Lagos
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so that you have access to these founder networks, So you have
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social capital, the shared learning that goes on, you know,
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all kinds of things. Then also, arguably, if you're
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in Lagos, you're going to have access to capital.
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When we say capital, we mean money that you need to start
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your business. So venture capitalists in Lagos,
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investment angels in Lagos, in cosmopolitan centres share.
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That's the reason why I said, you know, it doesn't necessarily
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have to be Lagos because it can be Lagos, it can be all gone.
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It can be all shown, you know, because even in the bad, I've
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heard of incubators there in Abuja, we have incubators in
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Carnal, they have startup incubators as well.
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But you have to be kind of like in the cosmopolitan centre.
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But then there's one reason 1 compelling reason quote, while
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lots of people want to go to Lagos so they can start their
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their startup founder career. And the reason why most people
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want to do that is because they are trying to get access to a
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tech Co founder pool. I repeat, there are some people
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who want to start the business. You want to be the next
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Zuckerberg, but you don't know gang, you don't know nothing,
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you don't know Shishi when it comes to code, like me for
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instance, like I want to be the next Zuckerberg but I don't know
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how to code. So does that mean I have to
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carry my 2:00 left legs, relocate from Abuja, carry my
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whole family, go all the way to Lagos so that I can blue and I
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can be the next Zuckerberg? So that in Lagos around all the
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different incubators and Co working spaces, I'm going to run
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into my tech Co founder and then we'll become billionaires
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earning billions of dollars of our business ideas.
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That's what we're going to look at today in the podcast.
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Do you have to move to Lagos to be a founder?
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Now some of you are going to ask.
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So if there are all disadvantages to, to being in
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Lagos, then why not just move? But remember I said maybe, maybe
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not, you know, because for the other advantages like access to
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shared learnings, you can get some of that online.
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That's one of the reasons why you're listening to this podcast
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right now anyway, because wherever you're based, whether
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you're based in Obama show or whether you're based in Sambisa
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Forest or whatever, the reason why you're looking, sorry, I say
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looking while you're listening to this podcast right now is
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because you're looking online and you're trying to see how you
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can get access to the right kind of learnings.
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That's the reason why you're following the right kind of
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social networks online. That's the reason why you're on
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YouTube. That's the reason why you're on
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podcast. That's the reason why you're on
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Zoom sessions. That's the reason why you're on
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LinkedIn, and that's the reason why you're making all these
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phone calls that you do. So you can have some of these
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advantages even if you're staying in some visa forest or
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even if you're staying in, you know, some forgotten local
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government in Nassau State. Sorry, my brothers who live in
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Nassau State. It's just that, you know, now,
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so I can be very, it can be, it can be dry.
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You know, I'm from Benning State.
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So to get to Banner State, we have to drive to Nassau.
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And man, some of your villages are, you know, like I used to
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think my apostasy village was really off the map.
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But Kai, there's some villages in Nassau State.
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Honestly, anyway, let me stop because I don't want to get
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counselled by Nassara boys or Nassara girls.
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So yeah, maybe you don't have to move because you can't be in
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Nassara. You can be in Maiduguri, you can
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be in Sapele and you can have access to the shared learnings
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just because you know the right places that you have to hang out
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online. Now, how about funding pools?
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Do you have to move to Lagos for funding pools?
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To be honest, I'm not competent to answer that kind of question
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because remember, my specialty is sales, sales coaching,
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business development, consulting.
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That is what I do. So I don't teach and I don't
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have networks and I don't have access when it comes to startup
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financing. So I'm not the kind of person
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who will tell you that, you know, go here to get started
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finance or stay here to get started finance.
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But arguably, for the sake of argument, arguably if you learn
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with, if you use good prospecting and researching
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motions, prospecting is when you have an idea for a product or
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for a service, and then you start reaching out to people who
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need that product, who need that service to see who's interested,
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see who's going to buy. In this case, if you're thinking
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about being a startup founder, prospecting would also involve
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you reaching out to people who might be stakeholders, who might
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be potential collaborators, who might be potential investors,
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those sorts of things. So with good prospecting
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motions, you're thinking, well, you're figuring out who might be
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interested and you have a good plan for how to reach out to
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those people with the tools that you have available, OK.
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And with good researching motions, then you might be able
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to have access to these funding pools because hopefully you'll
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be setting up phone calls with the right people, meetings with
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the right people. Then when it comes time to make
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the picture or whatever, then you know, you can enter bus, you
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know, night bus end up in Lagos and then you know from there go
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for the meeting and you know, stuff like that.
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So even though I don't have the, the knowledge or the specialty
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to say you have to move to Lagos or else you won't get funding,
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you know, arguably if you're good with prospecting and you're
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good with researching, researching, you can stay
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wherever you are, have access to the VC people, have access to
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the angels. And then when need be, just
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enter night boss sharp, sharp, sharp, you know, enter night
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boss today and then, you know, tomorrow by 12:12 to you're
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entering into Lagos, you know, find a friend's place, you know,
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bath, spray perfume and go for your meeting.
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And hopefully you, you since you do so arguably, OK, maybe you
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don't have to move to Lagos so you can get access to money to
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start your startup. Now, what about tech Co
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founders? Because remember what I said at
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the beginning that in Nigeria's history, at a certain time in
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the entertainment space, if you wanted to blow, if you wanted to
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be on Ray Power, if you're honest to be on AIT, these guys,
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KK and D1, they had a show on on.
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What was that show called? Again?
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I can't remember anyway, but they used to have this record
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label. That's where the remedies used
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to be on. But anyway, if you wanted to
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blow back then you had to be in Lagos.
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So can we see OK, and that's because all the movers and
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players, you know, were in Lagos.
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So cool FM AIT there was this radio station.
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I only used to play music. I remember it was called where
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daddy fees used to be on you know, all the players were in
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Lagos. So you wanted to blow, you had
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to be in Lagos. So by argument, some people can
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say, look, that if you want to blow but you know nothing about
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code, you are based in Makodi, you're based in Nassara, that
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you are too far away from where all the people who know code
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are. Therefore if you want to blow,
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you know nothing about code. You need a tech Co founder.
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You know you need a, a Co founder who knows how to do
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software, who knows how to do websites, who knows how to do
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apps, who knows how to do you know all that fancy stuff.
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So what about tech Co founders? Can you stay in Makodi?
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Can you stay in Maiduguri? Can you stay in Nassara?
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Can you stay in Sapele and have access to a tech Co founder?
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Do you have to leave Magudi, Nassara, Sapele, Maiduguri or
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wherever you are? Do you have to leave those
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places? Do you have to move to Ogun
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because Ogun is close to Lagos? Do you have to move to Lagos
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because Lagos is the very place itself?
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Do you have to move to Kano because that's the closest
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cosmopolitan city next to you? Or do you have to move to Port
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Harcourts because Port Harcourt is the nearest cosmopolitan
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center close to you? Do you have to do that?
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The answer is no. For those of you who've been
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listening to last week, they should not come as a surprise.
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I told you guys about my clients and how they're working on
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something that should help people ship their products
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easily. And I told you that I'm firmly
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behind them. I'm firmly behind my boys.
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And just in case you're wondering, is this an
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endorsement? Oh, yeah, definitely.
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It's an endorsement for sure. But that's the reason why I give
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my phone number at the beginning and at the end of every episode.
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Oh, I forgot to give my phone number.
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By the way, if you'd love to connect with me, my number is
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08064662140. You can call me.
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You can send me a WhatsApp message.
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You can send me a text message so you guys have my phone number
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because I'm going to tell you about my boys.
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You can go software factory. That is IKSF.
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And the reason why I'm throwing my weight behind them is because
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they're actually trying to solve this problem that if you want to
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be a tech Co founder, you're based in Makudi, you're based in
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Nasara, you're based in Sapele, you're based in wherever it is
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that you are based, you're based in Ranul local government.
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All you have to do is you have to go on to iksf.com.
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Sorry, iksf dot Ng. As long as you can describe your
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business idea in plain English, they will help you come up with
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your MVP. They will help you come up with
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your website. They will come up help you come
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up with whatever feature it is that you need to put on the
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Internet. They'll do that in less than a
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week. Apart from that, you're going to
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have a free web domain for a year.
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You're going to have free hosting for a year.
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And if you tell them that you came from me, all you have to do
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is use a discount code. You just type in TAV that is TAV
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or type in a YEDE that is IED. So you type that.
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You're going to be entitled to 20% off for whatever development
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that you want to do, whatever website you want to do.
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So the reason why I give my phone number at the beginning
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and at the end of every episode is if you reach out to these
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boys, that's IKSF dot Ng and they don't take good care of me.
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Sorry, not me. They don't take good care of
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you. Let me know so I can go and
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knock them on the head and say, look, this is no, we agreed.
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I've told my people, my people are showing up.
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You better take good care of them.
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So let me know. That's the reason why I give all
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of you my contact details over here.
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Now, if you don't have to move to Lagos because you need to
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meet TECO founders and there's a way for you to ship your
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product, there's a way for you to get your MVPMVP just means
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minimum viable product. A minimum viable product is the
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smallest version of your idea that you can put out there so
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that people can see exactly what it is that your software is
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about, that your app is about so people can engage in it and they
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can tell you whether this thing is a good idea or not.
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The reason why I'm moving quickly and getting an MVP is
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important is because it is a difference between you moving
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and your idea dying. For those of you who've been
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listening to the podcast for a long time, you remember that
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babe that I told you guys about, that babe based in Lagos.
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I think now if you don't reach like 4 years, I met her through
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this. Smedan was one of those Smedan
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events. Now the idea that she had I
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thought was brilliant. Now, the reason why I thought it
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was brilliant was because back in the day, my brother and I
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used to be in the export business and one problem that we
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used to have with export was this whole thing of logistics.
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You will call a trucking company.
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You will agree with the trucking company.
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They they're supposed to show up Wednesday 9:00 in the morning so
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they can move your charcoal. They can start moving your
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charcoal to the port or whatever time you agree Wednesday,
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Tuesday night, you could have called them.
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Nobody will answer call you send e-mail.
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Nobody respond to e-mail you send WhatsApp message.
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WhatsApp message is not going through no problem.
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Wednesday morning 6:00 you're calling them just to find out
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how far is the driver on his way?
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Is he close nothing. 8:00 nothing. 9:00 nothing. 10/11/12
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nothing. If you're lucky 6:00 PM
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Wednesday they will now drive into the village to come and
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pick up your consignment. Meanwhile, you people agreed on
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what do you agree on 9 O clock on Wednesday?
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So it's a problem that a whole host of us used to face in the
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export space, just trying to get your logistics right because you
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know how things are in Nigeria, getting people to respond on
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time is a problem. So this lady in Lagos, she had
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this idea that what if you could create something like an Uber
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app for logistics companies. In Niger, so that people who are
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in the export business or you know, do you know, they need
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logistics, you know, movement, you need to rent lorries and
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trucks and things like that. They could have an app like
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that, you know, so you need, you need a competent trucking
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company. You just go on this app, you
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find the company, everything works on time, blah, blah, blah.
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I thought the idea was brilliant, and the lady told me
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about how she had to raise money and this and this and that and
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that and that. And I told her what I tell you
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all over here on the podcast. I told her, look, no, OK, well,
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no, no, actually. But I told her, yes, you need to
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raise the money. But The thing is, in the
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meantime, what you need is an MVP.
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An MVP is a minimum viable product.
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There's the smallest version of the idea that people can see,
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see and engage with so they will know this is a good idea, this
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is a bad idea. So I told her, no problem, what
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you need is an MVP. How about getting an excel
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sheet? How about making some phone
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calls, talking to Fred Forders, trucking companies, blah blah
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blah. If people think that this is a
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good idea, you can start mediating this demand and supply
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manually. In other words, the app is not
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there, but you have the Excel sheet, you have everybody's
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phone numbers. When people need the service,
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maybe you put up a landing page or something, or when people
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need the service, they will call you.
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You are the one who will not manually start, you know,
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dispatching. You know, people are hooking
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people up and things like that. If people like that basic
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rudimentary idea because you just put up a landing page and
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then you are matching the manner, supply yourself.
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If that idea seems like it's moving, you will now be able to
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carry this, your Excel sheet on your landing page or whatever it
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is you built and you will now show investors to say this is my
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idea. This idea can work.
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Currently I have 250 freight forwarders, you know, 18
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trucking companies and you know, so far, you know, 327 exporters
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have used my landing page, should be able to hook up
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logistics and trucking. And so far, the idea has worked.
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There is a difference when you have an MVP.
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See, too many of you are going around to talk to investors and
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you're just begging, please give me money, please give me money.
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What if you show up to an investor, you say please give me
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money, this is a good idea. And this is what I have done to
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demonstrate that this is a good idea.
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It is a different conversation entirely but of course you know
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the level of work that I was talking about was too big and
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understandably you know the the lady was scared and next thing I
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know she started talking about SDG.
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Anytime I hear SDG now my blood dress the boil.
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I'm like what is wrong with you people?
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Yes, sustainable development goals are important, the
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environment is important and blah blah blah but because you
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can't hack it as a founder doesn't mean the next.
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You should used to become SDG advocate.
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All of them are just become SDG advocate.
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SDG advocate. Like relax, don't give up.
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If what you wanted to do was to be a founder at first try, get
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your MVP, validate the idea, show that this idea works or
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doesn't work. Figure out how to improve on it.
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Then go and start talking to founders.
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See how you can raise your finance, don't give up, and then
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become an SDG advocate. So we need to learn to move
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quickly, get your MVP. And that's the reason why I'm
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firmly behind IKSF dot Ng because if you go there,
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describe your idea. This is what I want to do.
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This is what I want to build, blah, blah, blah.
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My KSF is going to scope out everything, OK?
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To get this thing done, we're going to have to do it in four
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or five stages. To do it in stage, whatever is
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going to cost you this amount, do it in stage.
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This will cost you this amount. To do it in stage that will cost
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you this amount, you'll be able to plan.
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I'll be able to build execution idea in seven days.
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In other words, what I'm trying to say is for somebody like that
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Lady who spoke to me, some, you know, four years ago at Smedan,
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there is no need for you to know coding.
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There is no need for you to have to know a a tech Co founder.
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There are options. In fact, I said it the last time
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I spoke about IKSF dot Ng. You don't have to use them.
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You don't have to. There are people who are using
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AI to solve these sorts of problems.
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Do a search. All I'm just saying is the
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technology is now available, was now available.
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You don't have to be stuck anymore like you don't know a
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tech founder. Anyway.
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Whether you use them or not, the thought process is still the
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same. The principle is still the same.
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If moving to Lagos right now because you want to be a tech
25:32
founder is not quite within the cards because you have a young
25:35
family or you know your parents are old or whatever, or you just
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want to see how you go rough, you can rough it.
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The idea is to build an MVP, ship a product.
25:45
The reason why is because there's something we call first
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move advantage. First move advantage just means
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sometimes when you move first, you'll be able to cement your
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place well so that competition can shift you.
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But of course, remember, the execution is key because Google
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was not the first search engine. Google was not, at least by my
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own remember memory. I know that we used to use
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Jeeves. We used to use Altvista.
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We used to use Yahoo, I think. Yeah, like Yahoo.
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We used to use our search engine back then.
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Then which one? The game was like 4 or five
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before Google. The ones that me, I know
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personal, personal. Ask Jeeves, then AltaVista and
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then Yahoo. Still maybe like 2 more.
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So execution is key. So it's not always that you have
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an advantage because you move first, since obviously we all
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know Google. Google didn't move first.
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I think they were like #5 I'll be #6 or number.
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Anyway, I'm not a tech commentator so don't quote me.
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Then another reason why I should just get your MVP and get moving
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is because like if that Lady had started.
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By the way, I've been keeping an eye on that space and it doesn't
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look to me like anybody has come up with an idea similar.
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I think the best I've seen so far is this whole thing with
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Uber. Is it Uber logistics or both
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logistics or something like that.
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Where you know, if you need things delivered, you can hook
27:22
your bolts to do it and you know, stuff like that.
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So it's a similar idea, but not on that scale of, you know,
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having these big trucks, you know, all these huge trucks now
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tippers to come and carry your farm produce and carry your
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stuff and ship it to the port in, in Lagos.
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So now that level. But The thing is, if you just
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get an MVP and you start moving, you will get some market
27:45
validation. The stakeholders in the market,
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the people in the market, they will tell you whether this is a
27:50
good idea or not. If you have started on nothing,
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freight forwarders would have told her young lady, this is not
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a good idea. Nigerians don't care.
27:58
Nigerians are OK with trucks not arriving on time or business
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people or other stakeholders would have told her that look,
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this is a crap idea. But if it was a good idea like a
28:07
suspect, people would have been like a young lady, where have
28:10
you been or more? This is a huge problem and this
28:12
thing needs solving now. Getting an MVP and just moving,
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you'll be able to get a sense of people will know whether you'll
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be able to know whether like this is a problem worth solving.
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People are willing to pay for it and they keep they can't pay for
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it at a price that will make sense for me.
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But the most important reason why I say move and I say move
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now is if you gain some validation and you sure that
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this thing works for those of you who are thinking should I
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move to Lagos at least because of the the funding
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opportunities, you know, access to VC and access to angels.
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When you validate this thing, it will give you more confidence to
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tell your wife that you know what babe, are they come and
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they relocate to Lagos for a while, you know, 2-3 months and
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see how this thing is going to work.
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Or you tell your parents, Mommy, daddy, I know you want me to go
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and work in NPC, but honestly speaking, I want to be an
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entrepreneur blah, blah, blah. It is my life's calling this
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thing they work blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Let me tell Lagos, let me see how much funding I can raise.
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At least if you validate the idea, if you show yourself and
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you show your people, show your family, show your parents that
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look, this progressed, you know, that's what you might need.
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That's that might be the permission that you need to to
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get going to get moving. So please start just launch.
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And the reason why I'm throwing my weight behind these these
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guys IKSF dot Ng is because this thing pains me.
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It pains me a lot. It pains me that I meet people.
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Brilliant idea. We talk in December and then a
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new year. Oh, how far.
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Oh, I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming.
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Oh, I'm planning, I'm planning. Oh, I'm branding, I'm branding.
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Oh, I'm coding, I'm coding, I'm this and this I'm planning to
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plan. This thing happens a lot.
30:10
This thing happens a lot. Too many business ideas die.
30:14
Anyway, let me start. Let me not over flog.
30:19
Let me not over flog this thing. Let me just leave you here.
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But summary, do you have to move to Lagos to live out your dreams
30:33
of being a startup founder? Maybe, maybe not.
30:38
If you want access to the learnings, if you want access to
30:41
the social capital, if you want access to the learnings, we can
30:45
do the learnings online. If you want access to the
30:49
funding, you can do some prospecting and researching so
30:52
that when need be you can travel down to Lagos and see how much
30:55
money you can raise. But if it's for this whole thing
30:58
of the tech part, you need a Co founder or you don't know how to
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code, there are options available and you don't need
31:05
that anymore. So if you do check out iksf dot
31:10
Ng, just let them know that I'm the one who sent you the promo
31:17
code is TAV that is TAV or IED AYEDE and that will entitle you
31:24
to 20% off. And then I give my phone number
31:30
at the beginning and at the end of every episode 08064662140.
31:36
The reason why I'm giving this phone number is if you reach out
31:39
to them and they don't treat you well, let me know because these
31:43
are my guys so that I can go and correct their skulls if need be
31:47
to say, look, this is not we agreed.
31:49
So let me know if they treat you right.
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Well, hopefully for those of you who have start of dreams, maybe
31:55
this is one option that's available.
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And by the way, thank you to a listener of the podcast who
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reached out. I'm not going to use a real
32:02
name, but I'll just call her Jane Bosco.
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So if you're listening and you're wondering, is this me,
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Yes, that is you. Thank you very much for
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listening to the show and thank you very much for the feedback.
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Jane Bosco is in the fashion space.
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She hasn't started yet. She's planning to plan.
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She loved the first two episodes of the podcast that she listened
32:23
to, but she thought I was being too promotional.
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But I thank you very much for the feedback.
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I really love the fact that those of you who listen to the
32:32
podcast, you guys are very honest, you know, very
32:36
forthcoming, very. You know, I know you guys love
32:38
the show, so you do whatever it is or you say whatever you think
32:42
you need to say to make sure that I build to the podcast the
32:46
right way. So thank you very much, Jane
32:48
Bosco, for your contribution. Yeah.
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I didn't take permission to use your real name, so that's why
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I'm not using it. Or please, Jane Bosco, you say
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you are planning to plan. Please stop it.
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He pains me especially when I'm talking to would be female
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founders and entrepreneurs who keep on planning and planning
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and planning. Please stop it.
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It doesn't have to be my guys but there are options available
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if brand and website are the things that are holding you
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back. Please people have already used
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AI to solve these problems. Do your research.
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Get moving please. Time is going, time is going,
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time is going. Anyway, let me stop here.
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So thank you very much for your time and attention.
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I'll catch you all at the next episode.