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#255| 4 Tips To Calm Your Nervous System & Fall Back Asleep Faster · Overwhelmed Working Woman: Boost Productivity, Master Time Management, Overcome Overwhelm & Stop People Pleasing

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  Lauren Rappaport: Stress activates fight or flight, and sleep is impossible when you're in fight or flight.
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  Michelle Gauthier: You're listening to Overwhelmed Working Woman, the podcast that helps you be more calm and more productive by doing less.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I'm your host, Michelle Gauthier, a former Overwhelmed Working Woman and current life coach.
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  Michelle Gauthier: On this show, we unpack the stress and pressure that today's Working Woman experiences.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And in each episode, you'll get a strategy to bring more calm, ease, and relaxation to your life.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Hi, friend.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Thanks for joining today.
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  Michelle Gauthier: If you've ever woken up at 2 a.m., stared at the ceiling, and started doing the math about how many hours of sleep you would still get if you fell back to sleep right now.
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  Michelle Gauthier: This episode is for you.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Today I'm bringing back one of my favorite guests, Lauren Rappaport.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Lauren is a life coach who helps overwhelm stressed-out people find more peace and calm.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Lauren has type 1 diabetes and coaches lots of people who do too, which means her insulin pump wakes her up throughout the night consistently.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And yet she has become someone who knows exactly how to get herself back to sleep every single time.
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  Michelle Gauthier: So if she can do it, you can do it too.
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  Michelle Gauthier: When you listen today, you'll learn why you can't sleep and how to get curious about the real reason.
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  Michelle Gauthier: It might not be what you think it is.
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  Michelle Gauthier: What to do in the middle of the night when your mind is racing and your body will not settle down, how what you do during the day directly impacts how you sleep at night and the simple shifts you can make to make a real difference.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Lauren has also provided us with a free download of all these tips so you don't have to take notes while you're driving.
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  Michelle Gauthier: So that's a perk.
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  Michelle Gauthier: So listen to this episode today and sleep better tonight.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Hi, Lauren.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Thank you so much for joining me again.
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  Michelle Gauthier: You are multiple times guest on the podcast, and I am so glad to have you.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Thanks so much for having me.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I would love if you just told the audience a little bit about your story and why we're focusing on sleep today, why you are a sleep expert.
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  Lauren Rappaport: It's one of my favorite topics.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I'm so excited to talk about sleep.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I used to be a self-proclaimed bad sleeper.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I almost wore that as like a badge of honor.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And through trial and error and learning about my body, I learned different tools and how not to be a perfect sleeper or even a great sleeper.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I just learned how to fall asleep, get back to sleep, and just how to work with my body and not against my body.
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  Michelle Gauthier: That's so good.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And it does it mean that we're getting old that we're like sleep is such an exciting topic.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Like I couldn't wait to have you on to talk about sleep.
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  Michelle Gauthier: But I feel like there were days gone by, like college, where you could stay up all night and still be fine the next day.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And now I just feel like I can't recover from that like I could.
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  Michelle Gauthier: It feels like getting sleep is so important.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Literally, I don't feel human if I don't get enough sleep.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Yes.
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  Michelle Gauthier: One of my clients was just telling me the other day that she hadn't had a drop to drink, but she had only gotten four hours of sleep.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And she's like, I feel like I have a hangover.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I just feel miserable.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I can't think straight, all that stuff.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And I was like, Yes, exactly, exactly.
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  Michelle Gauthier: So you went from being a self-proclaimed bad sleeper to being not perfect, but someone who can consistently get themselves back to sleep if you wake up in the night.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Yes, I'm consistent, I'm somebody who can get consistent sleep.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And when I wake up, I know exactly what to do.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And sometimes I will use one of my tools, sometimes I'll use two of my tools, and sometimes it takes four of my tools, but I know exactly what to do.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And I have type 1 diabetes, so I'm consistently woken up and I coach people with diabetes.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And so my clients are consistently woken up.
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  Lauren Rappaport: My insulin pump goes off, my blood sugar goes high, my blood sugar goes low.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And so I need a lot of tools to get me back to sleep.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Yes.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And I know you don't exclusively coach people with type one, but the reason why I wanted to have you on as the sleep expert is because I don't have type one and I don't have a pump or an alarm that's going off in the night.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I'm just waking up for no reason or reasons that my brain can't explain to me.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And I think a lot of our audiences too.
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  Michelle Gauthier: So even though you have that extra situation that makes it even harder to sleep, which I think is even more impressive that you can sleep now.
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  Michelle Gauthier: But I feel like your tools that you have given me have helped me get back to sleep a million times.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Like literally, when I wake up in the night, I think through your list of tools.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I'm like, which one should I try now?
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  Michelle Gauthier: What should I do?
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  Lauren Rappaport: You are probably annoyed that you're up in the middle of the night thinking all the things you have to do tomorrow and the frustration is still probably there if you're whether it's carry menopause or whether it's your presentation the next day or whether it's your snoring husband, you are annoyed if you're woken up in the middle of the night.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Totally, yes.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And then doing the countdown, which makes me feel anxious.
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  Michelle Gauthier: If I fall back to sleep right now, I'll get five more hours of sleep, or should I just get up, or what should I do?
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  Michelle Gauthier: Okay, so I don't think anybody's gonna argue with us that sleep is important.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And I also think that the audience who's listening today are overwhelmed working women who don't have time to be tired, but actually are tired all the time.
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  Michelle Gauthier: So give it to us.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Tell us what to do if we can't sleep.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Okay, the first is identify your specific sleep challenge.
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  Lauren Rappaport: You can't change what you're not aware of.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So what is your specific problem?
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  Lauren Rappaport: Because I've talked to people who are like, I got the worst night's sleep last night.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And when I asked them what their problem was, they were like, I was up scrolling Instagram before I even went to sleep.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So that's not really a sleep problem.
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  Lauren Rappaport: That's like I didn't get to sleep problem.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Um Do you have tips for that?
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  Michelle Gauthier: Turn off your phone, essentially.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Is that what you would say to that?
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  Michelle Gauthier: Yeah.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Yeah, that's a great example.
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  Michelle Gauthier: So were you lying there quietly in the dark trying to sleep, or were you messing around with your phone?
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  Lauren Rappaport: Or are you waking up consistently at four in the morning every night?
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  Lauren Rappaport: Why are you waking up?
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  Lauren Rappaport: Are you hot?
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  Lauren Rappaport: Is your cat meowing at the door?
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  Lauren Rappaport: Is your husband snoring?
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  Lauren Rappaport: What is your problem?
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  Lauren Rappaport: And really get curious because you can't change what you're not aware of.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So really get curious and keep asking yourself why and get to the bottom of what the problem is.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So that's the first thing.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And then the second thing is focus in on what's in your control because it's just like the low-hanging fruit.
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  Lauren Rappaport: There are some things that you may be able to solve.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So if sleep is your priority, maybe splurge and get a more comfortable bed or some pillows or an AC.
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  Lauren Rappaport: They say 65 is the optimal sleep temperature.
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  Lauren Rappaport: But like for my example, my pump was beeping a lot.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And I sat down with my endocrinologist and we turned off every single beep that was not necessary.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I didn't even realize I had beeps that weren't necessary.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So I silenced all of my phone beeps and my pump only beeps down when I'm high or low.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Okay.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Oh, that is so good.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And some of this may seem obvious, but sometimes you are putting off sleep.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I don't like doing my night routine.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I just, I don't know.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I have this whole face routine now.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I don't like doing it.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I was dreading going to bed because I didn't feel like doing my night routine.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So now when I put my pajamas on, I just do my night routine.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So that's not an obstacle for going to bed.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So little things like that.
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  Michelle Gauthier: That's a great example.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I also hate it, especially when I'm tired.
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  Michelle Gauthier: But I put my pajamas on like hours before that.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Again, it may seem obvious, but I always wake up hot and I cannot sleep when I'm hot.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So just really start paying attention to all the reasons why you wake up or and what are the things you can solve that are actually in your control and all the little things add up.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Maybe it's three or four things.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Or having the tough conversation.
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  Lauren Rappaport: If somebody is snoring that you're sleeping with, like, should I sleep in a separate room?
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  Lauren Rappaport: I've heard separate bedrooms are all the rage right now.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Just minimizing disruptions, things like that.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Yeah.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So second is focusing on what's in your control.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Also consistency.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Going to bed at the same time every night, waking up at the same time.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I know that's a really tough one for overwhelmed moms, but that does make a difference.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Science fact difference.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Yeah.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And even if you can't do it perfectly, you could move in the right direction.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Try to go to bed between 9 and 10:30, for example.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Lauren and I are both coaches.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And so we know that a lot of times our clients will be like, oh, I want to start this new habit.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I want to start working out.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I gotta do it five days a week.
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  Michelle Gauthier: If I can't do it five days a week, I can't do it.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And it's no, you could do one day a week and do it for 30 minutes.
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  Michelle Gauthier: So I like that.
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  Lauren Rappaport: It's all about how you feel, right?
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  Lauren Rappaport: Everything's an experiment.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Try it and see how you feel.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Yeah, I love that.
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  Michelle Gauthier: That's good advice.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Okay, so now we know what's causing our sleep problems.
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  Michelle Gauthier: We know what's in our control.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Now what?
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  Lauren Rappaport: Okay, number three, this is really the magic.
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  Lauren Rappaport: This changed everything for me.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And this is shifting your physical state.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Stress activates fight or flight.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So when you wake up and your mind is racing and your heart is beating and you're sweating and your body is tense, there's a good chance you're in fight or flight.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And sleep feels impossible.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And that's because sleep is impossible, or sleep is really hard when you're in fight or flight.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And the best thing to do is to down-regulate your nervous system.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And so this is where I'm gonna get a couple tips that help you regulate your nervous system.
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  Lauren Rappaport: This is the meat of what I want to talk about.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Just a couple tips to help shift you out of fight or flight and send calming signals to your nervous system so you can go back to sleep.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Perfect.
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  Speaker: This first tip is pay attention to what's happening in your body.
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  Speaker: And this has happened to me.
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  Speaker: Where when I actually think, what am I doing with my body?
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  Speaker: Are my shoulders at my ear?
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  Speaker: Are my hands in this?
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  Speaker: And I'm like, oh, I need to relax my body.
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  Speaker: So if you just tune into your body and physically relax your body, that is the first thing.
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  Speaker: And then the second part of that tip is deep breathing.
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  Speaker: So just a couple deep breaths in, couple deep breaths out, and just go longer on the exhale.
• 9:47
  Michelle Gauthier: I think that's why your tips are so powerful, is because you can remember that in the middle of the night.
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  Michelle Gauthier: You can remember, relax my whole body and take a deep breath where the exhale is longer than the inhale.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And for anyone listening, you can just try it right now, even if you're driving.
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  Michelle Gauthier: You don't have to close your eyes.
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  Michelle Gauthier: You can just notice a lot of times when I feel stressed, my body is holding on, like you said, like there's something, someone coming after me or something.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And I don't even consciously notice it.
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  Michelle Gauthier: So just see if you can let your body go and take those two deep breaths, like Lauren said, and breathe out longer than you breathe in and just see what a little but powerful shift that is.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Yeah, exactly.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And then the second tip I think this is one that I know it's worked for Michelle.
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  Lauren Rappaport: This is gonna sound super counterintuitive because it involves getting out of bed, but this is magic.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And it's called legs up against the wall.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And this actually also helps with restless legs.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Your legs are up against the wall and your back is on the floor and you make a 90-degree angle with the wall.
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  Lauren Rappaport: It just takes a few, it's less than a minute, would you say, Michelle?
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  Lauren Rappaport: Mm-hmm.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Wait for your body to respond.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And what I mean by that is for me, when my body has relaxed, I yawn.
• 11:01
  Lauren Rappaport: Or it could be a sigh.
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  Lauren Rappaport: It can be like an internal shift.
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  Lauren Rappaport: You just lay in that position until you get some sort of response.
• 11:10
  Michelle Gauthier: I don't know what it is, but you actually gave this as a tip on the podcast.
• 11:13
  Michelle Gauthier: You were not talking about sleep that time.
• 11:16
  Michelle Gauthier: And you gave this as a tip.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And I've been doing it ever since.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And sometimes I'll lie in bed and think, I don't want to get out of bed.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I don't want to do the legs up against the wall.
• 11:25
  Michelle Gauthier: And then I go do it.
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  Michelle Gauthier: And one minute later I feel better and I fall right back to sleep.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I'm like, why didn't I do that 30 minutes ago?
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  Michelle Gauthier: And sometimes if I'm in my bed alone, I'll do it up against the headboard.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I'll stay in the bed and scoop myself all the way around to put my legs up so I can do it.
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  Michelle Gauthier: But it 100% works.
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  Michelle Gauthier: It has a hundred percent success rate for me.
• 11:47
  Lauren Rappaport: Me too.
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  Lauren Rappaport: It is it's amazing.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Okay, so legs up against the wall.
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  Lauren Rappaport: The next one is writing your thoughts down.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And the reason why this is so fascinating is because when your mind is racing, you feel like you have one million thoughts in your brain and you couldn't possibly get them all out.
• 12:05
  Lauren Rappaport: But in reality, you have probably three to five thoughts that are just on a loop and they have a different flavor to them.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So I always have a notebook and a pen next to my bed.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And sometimes I do this proactively.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I know I have a lot in my mind, but typically I do it as a reaction to not being able to sleep.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And you just write down your thoughts, and you think you're gonna be writing forever.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And after six things, you're like, oh, that's it.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And your brain does not want to be on a loop.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Your brain does not want to be thinking about these things.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So once you get that list down, sometimes that's the only thing I do.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And my brain is like, oh, I won't have to loop anymore.
• 12:43
  Lauren Rappaport: And I just fall right asleep.
• 12:44
  Michelle Gauthier: That's awesome.
• 12:45
  Michelle Gauthier: Okay, we've got legs up the wall, write everything down.
• 12:48
  Michelle Gauthier: What else?
• 12:49
  Lauren Rappaport: The fourth one is EFT tapping.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I'm gonna keep this really simple and just one point.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Use your first three fingers, your index, middle, and ring finger.
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  Lauren Rappaport: You just lightly tap those three fingers on your chest, just right on your chest, right around your collarbone, and you just tap right there very lightly and just say, Let my thoughts go, it's time for sleeping.
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  Lauren Rappaport: Let my thoughts go, it's time for sleeping.
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  Lauren Rappaport: You can really say whatever you want, but if you need some direction, you just say that.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And the tapping sends a signal to your nervous system telling your nervous system it's safe to relax.
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  Lauren Rappaport: For me, it sends me like right to sleep.
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  Lauren Rappaport: But you really can say whatever.
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  Lauren Rappaport: I woke up, my blood sugar was low the other night, and I was so frustrated.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And when your blood sugar is low, it's dangerous to go to sleep.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So I had to wait for my blood sugar to stabilize.
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  Lauren Rappaport: So I just said, I'm so frustrated.
• 13:42
  Lauren Rappaport: I'm so frustrated.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And you'd think when you say things like I'm frustrated, it would rile you up, but because of the tapping, it relaxed me.
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  Lauren Rappaport: And then by the time my blood sugar stabilized, I went right to sleep.
• 13:53
  Michelle Gauthier: I love that.
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  Michelle Gauthier: I just think it's the coolest thing.
• 13:55
  Michelle Gauthier: I saw your Instagram reel one time when you were doing that, and I was like, ooh, no to self.
• 13:59
  Michelle Gauthier: I'm gonna try that next time.
• 14:00
  Michelle Gauthier: And see, for that one, you don't have to get out of bed.
• 14:02
  Michelle Gauthier: So sometimes I try that one as my first move.
• 14:05
  Lauren Rappaport: Yeah, tapping is usually my first line of defense.
• 14:09
  Michelle Gauthier: Okay, so those were four great ideas for how we could get back to sleep and shift our state.
• 14:14
  Michelle Gauthier: So now that everyone listening knows how to get back to sleep or fall asleep, what other tips do you have for us?
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  Lauren Rappaport: The
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  Speaker: last thing in my framework is just how your day impacts your night.
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  Speaker: Daily stress makes a big difference in our nighttime sleep, but our nighttime sleep also impacts our day.
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  Speaker: So it's like a loop.
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  Speaker: If you're activated during the day, it's going to impact how you sleep at night.
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  Speaker: So just think about what are some things I can do during the day to keep myself calmer and more regulated.
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  Speaker: Like all the things I just mentioned, deep breathing, legs up against the wall, tapping, but also can I go for a walk and I get some sunshine on my face?
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  Speaker: If stress is a problem for you, maybe it is setting up a coaching session with me or with Michelle.
• 14:59
  Michelle Gauthier: Okay, so at the beginning, we mentioned that Lauren has created a document for all of you to have that you can grab for free that has these sleep tips.
• 15:09
  Michelle Gauthier: So go get that.
• 15:10
  Michelle Gauthier: You can keep this nearby at night.
• 15:13
  Michelle Gauthier: And I would challenge you to just think of one of them, if it's legs up against the wall or whichever one you choose, that you just put that in your mind as next time I can't sleep, I'm gonna try this thing.
• 15:22
  Michelle Gauthier: And then go get her document so that you can also have this handy guide in case you need to try.
• 15:28
  Michelle Gauthier: Because sometimes you need to try more than one of them, right, Lauren?
• 15:31
  Lauren Rappaport: Absolutely.
• 15:32
  Lauren Rappaport: And that's one thing I was gonna say is that my big takeaway is you don't have to be a good sleeper.
• 15:38
  Lauren Rappaport: I think you just need like curiosity and a willingness to experiment and do trial and error.
• 15:43
  Michelle Gauthier: I love that.
• 15:44
  Michelle Gauthier: So it's just an experiment.
• 15:45
  Michelle Gauthier: Just try it out.
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  Michelle Gauthier: Totally.
• 15:47
  Michelle Gauthier: Okay, so I have two more questions for you that I ask every guest on the podcast.
• 15:52
  Michelle Gauthier: The first one is what's a rule that you've made for yourself that you rarely ever break?
• 15:56
  Lauren Rappaport: My morning routine.
• 15:58
  Lauren Rappaport: I do like a little morning self-coaching routine where I do three wins, what I'm grateful for, and some of the exercise for my mind, whether it's tapping.
• 16:07
  Michelle Gauthier: Do you have to make yourself do that anymore, or is it a habit at this point?
• 16:11
  Lauren Rappaport: It's a habit because it feels good.
• 16:13
  Lauren Rappaport: It's like I I don't like how it feels to not do it.
• 16:16
  Michelle Gauthier: Okay, that's awesome.
• 16:17
  Michelle Gauthier: That's such a good one.
• 16:19
  Michelle Gauthier: And then the second question is what is something that you're loving right now that has nothing to do with work?
• 16:23
  Lauren Rappaport: Thriller.
• 16:24
  Lauren Rappaport: I'm obsessed with reading thriller books right now.
• 16:27
  Michelle Gauthier: Okay.
• 16:27
  Michelle Gauthier: Okay.
• 16:27
  Michelle Gauthier: Can you give us a few or tell us one that you're reading?
• 16:30
  Lauren Rappaport: This author, Charlie Dunlea, I'm like ripping through all of his books.
• 16:34
  Michelle Gauthier: That's fun.
• 16:34
  Michelle Gauthier: What a great thing to just take your mind off everything else and just get involved in a story.
• 16:38
  Michelle Gauthier: That's why I love reading too.
• 16:40
  Michelle Gauthier: Thank you so much, Lauren, for being on.
• 16:42
  Michelle Gauthier: We'll give them the link so they can download your sleep guide.
• 16:45
  Michelle Gauthier: Where else can they find you and just tell us a little bit about who your regular clients are?
• 16:51
  Michelle Gauthier: Because I know you said you have clients with type one, but clients who don't have type one also.
• 16:55
  Lauren Rappaport: You can find me at Life Coaching with Lauren, and I help overwhelmed, stressed-out women who want more peace and calm in their life and want to connect more with their inner voice and who want to stop second guessing themselves.
• 17:10
  Lauren Rappaport: And I also help people with type one who want the same thing, but just that diabetes adds that extra stress in their life.
• 17:16
  Michelle Gauthier: Yes, being friends with you for a long time has helped me understand how much extra stress that can cause in someone's life.
• 17:23
  Michelle Gauthier: I'm glad they have you.
• 17:25
  Michelle Gauthier: Thank you for listening to the Overwhelmed Working Woman podcast.
• 17:32
  Michelle Gauthier: If you want to learn more about my work, head over to my website at MichelleGauthier.com.
• 17:38
  Michelle Gauthier: See you next week.