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Sex, Lies & NDA’s: The Inside Scoop 😳🥴🤐🔞 · She Rises with Ashy & Tijana

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  Speaker 1: Apogee Production. Welcome to the Sheep Risers Podcast. I'm Ashy
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  Speaker 1: and I'm Tiana.
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  Speaker 2: This podcast is about female empowerment and encouraging you to
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  Speaker 2: be your biggest, boldest, and most authentic version of yourself.
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  Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame, grow to new level.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone
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  Speaker 1: else is too afraid to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Get ready for your next level of self.
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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to another week of podcasting with
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  Speaker 1: your favorite podcasting hosts, Tiana and Ashy. Back in your ears.
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  Speaker 2: We're so excited to be here.
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  Speaker 1: This episode actually makes me a bit nervous. If I'm
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  Speaker 1: being honest, I'm really nervous for this one.
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  Speaker 2: I could throw up a little bit. Yeah, that's like
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  Speaker 2: sick feeling in your stomach. We're just like, yeah, everything's
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  Speaker 2: off limits here.
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  Speaker 1: We had an idea, fun idea that turned out not
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  Speaker 1: to be so fun.
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  Speaker 2: I felt like, yeah, it took a turn.
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  Speaker 1: It really did put up one of those not gonna
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  Speaker 1: lie boxes where people can make assumptions about us. We
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  Speaker 1: thought it might be like a fun, playful episode, but
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  Speaker 1: holy shit, goes a brutal end. The assumptions that came through.
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  Speaker 1: I can't even believe that some people actually think this
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  Speaker 1: about us.
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  Speaker 2: It actually blows my mind. Like you guys did not
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  Speaker 2: hold back whatsoever, and like a few of them are
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  Speaker 2: pretty brutal, Like we're like, okay, I think we need
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  Speaker 2: to delete this. We did, we did.
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  Speaker 1: We've got enough for a whole episode. We kept reading
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  Speaker 1: this about us. Given a list we've got is quite long,
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  Speaker 1: Holy molly. But before we get into that, what's your
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  Speaker 1: share of the week?
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  Speaker 2: My share of the week is just about diet. So
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  Speaker 2: for me recently since New Year, since we went away
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  Speaker 2: to Byron. When we were down in Byron, all of
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  Speaker 2: us who were there there was like five different couples
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  Speaker 2: and everyone was just eating like a carnival diet. It
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  Speaker 2: was full of meat and it was awesome to see
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  Speaker 2: everyone on it. And since then I felt really good
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  Speaker 2: in terms of energy, and I've noticed that my body
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  Speaker 2: really responds to like a high protein, high fat diet.
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  Speaker 2: So for me, it's a little bit cardival, little bit keto,
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  Speaker 2: bit of mix in the middle, and I just have
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  Speaker 2: a ridiculous amount of energy. I feel satiated for longer,
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  Speaker 2: like I'm not eating until like after one o'clock now,
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  Speaker 2: and I just have more energy throughout the day, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sleeping better, and I just if anybody's interested in trying it, like,
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  Speaker 2: I highly recommend just giving it a go for seven days.
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  Speaker 2: See how you feel, see how your body responds, and
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  Speaker 2: give it a go. Honestly, it changed the game for me.
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  Speaker 1: You should see Tiana's breakfast. I'm not even kidding you.
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  Speaker 1: In Byron, I was like, whoa half an avocado, two eggs,
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  Speaker 1: three lamb colors, a sausage, a bit of steak. It
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  Speaker 1: was just like wo but so much food, but just good,
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  Speaker 1: high fat, high protein, and you just felt so amazing.
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  Speaker 2: So incredible. Yeah, Like I can't even explain to you,
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  Speaker 2: no brain fog, no crashes throughout the day, like sustained
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  Speaker 2: energy fuels your training sessions as well, which I need.
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  Speaker 1: Your body has changed, not that anything was wrong with
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  Speaker 1: your body at all. It's perfection, but you've definitely like
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  Speaker 1: almost tightened up everything even more, which you've expressed you
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  Speaker 1: felt leaner but more toned.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I did. Yeah, I said, Notice, like I was
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  Speaker 2: eating like a fair bit of carbs before, but I've
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  Speaker 2: noticed I've cut those out and I just I feel
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  Speaker 2: good in my body, like I feel like what you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: A bit tighter, a bit leaner. Just I feel also strong,
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  Speaker 2: but I feel feminine.
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  Speaker 1: I just like it.
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  Speaker 2: Everything feels good.
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  Speaker 1: I think we diet. It's so important. I did a
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  Speaker 1: whole episode whil you guys can go back and listen
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  Speaker 1: to on my food Journey. I think it's really important,
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  Speaker 1: as much as you're saying to recommend this everyone to
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  Speaker 1: try a different things. Yes, you don't know how your
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  Speaker 1: body's going to respond until your trial something for a
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  Speaker 1: certain amount of time. You were doing that for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and you're like, holy shit, why would
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  Speaker 1: I not eat like this when I feel so good?
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  Speaker 1: Same with me. When I got back from Europe, I
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  Speaker 1: was just I don't know, to look at another piece
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  Speaker 1: of bread, cross on or hotch of it ever again,
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  Speaker 1: because I just was so sick of it and being
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  Speaker 1: on blood thinners, I was craving a lot of red
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  Speaker 1: meat and I just feel so good eating it. So
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  Speaker 1: I continued to eat like that. Then over Christmas in Barron,
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  Speaker 1: I had some like dairy ice creams. I had some
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  Speaker 1: grain way just snacky shit that you have on holidays,
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  Speaker 1: and I just felt not as good, not as good.
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  Speaker 1: So It's really important to try and see what works
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  Speaker 1: for your body and then go with it. Listen to it,
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  Speaker 1: talk to us.
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  Speaker 2: What's your sharedly?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, mine is one of our favorite restaurants. Mine is
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  Speaker 1: Stea's favorite restaurants. A lot of my friend his favorite restaurant,
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  Speaker 1: Kaomi in the Casino on the Gold Coast. If you
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  Speaker 1: ever visit Gold Coast, if you live on the Gold Coast,
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  Speaker 1: please book into this restaurant. It's where we've booked for
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  Speaker 1: Valentine's Night. It is the most delicious food. The menu,
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  Speaker 1: the quality, the way they cook it, the flavors, the steak,
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  Speaker 1: the toothfish, even the freaking broccoli and corn are the
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  Speaker 1: best broccoln corn I've ever had in last Oh my god. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: the restaurant is Chef's Kiss. Ten out of ten recommendation
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  Speaker 1: spicy tuna rolls. Oh, that's right, highly recommend It sounds
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  Speaker 1: like this is sponsored. It is not. I would love
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  Speaker 1: to be sponsored by them. Oh it is a bit
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  Speaker 1: more expensive.
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  Speaker 2: That would be a dream. Yeah, it is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more pricey, but it's some way that you go
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  Speaker 2: every now and again. It's like for a special occasion
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  Speaker 2: or Innoson's birthday or something like that. So if you're
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  Speaker 2: the big foodie and you love Japanese, yes, all right,
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  Speaker 2: take a breath, guys, we are shook at these assumptions.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely sure, I'll go first. Oh my god, I'm scared, Tiana.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel comfortable having such fake boobs or would
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  Speaker 1: you like to make them more natural like ashes? This
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  Speaker 1: is not a dig, just genuinely curious, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: This is actually a question on assumption.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a funny one. So when I read this,
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  Speaker 2: I was just like, oh my god, that's so funny
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  Speaker 2: to read. Because I got my implants when I was
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  Speaker 2: really young, almost a decade ago now, and at the time,
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  Speaker 2: I was much more insecure and just wanted different things,
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  Speaker 2: So I wanted different levels of attention, that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So where I'm at right now, I cannot wait to
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  Speaker 2: get my implants smaller. Yeah, because the size that they
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  Speaker 2: are at now, like, I'm aware that they're quite big
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  Speaker 2: for my frame, Like i feel like they don't suit
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  Speaker 2: my body and I feel they're out of proportion with
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  Speaker 2: the rest of my body. It feels incongruent with who
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  Speaker 2: I am now because I just am not the person
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  Speaker 2: that I was when I got them. It's been almost
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  Speaker 2: a decade to thank fuck, I'm not, you know, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I definitely think that if I were to go again,
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  Speaker 2: which is something I'm planning on doing, is to go
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  Speaker 2: at least half the size that they're at now, so
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  Speaker 2: it will give a little bit more of a natural
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  Speaker 2: look and feel just more congruent with how I feel
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  Speaker 2: inside now. You know, there are even times like, for example,
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  Speaker 2: like at Ashley's birthday, I hired this cute little black dress.
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  Speaker 2: It was really beautiful, but it was very like corset
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  Speaker 2: kind of vibe and with implants that are quite bigger. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: it pulls them together, just makes them look keeps bigger,
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  Speaker 2: and I remember thinking like I had to hide them
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  Speaker 2: even just at a dinner full of girls, because I
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  Speaker 2: felt insecure that they were out so much, and like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you'll notice, like I often will
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  Speaker 2: hide them in certain clothing because I don't want that attention.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to draw those things in and it
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  Speaker 2: makes me feel uncomfortable when they are out on display.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just incongruent with how I feel now and
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  Speaker 2: feels like a different version of myself. So to answer
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  Speaker 2: your question, yes, I will be planning on getting them smaller.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably like a next year thing, yeah, because I
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  Speaker 2: got a quote and then it's like fifty k to
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  Speaker 2: get boosed on these days. But yeah, that's where I'm
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  Speaker 2: at with that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, next one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Actually, I don't know how youre gonn feel about
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  Speaker 2: this one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh gosh.
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  Speaker 2: So the assumption is that the previous co host was
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  Speaker 2: not a good friend to Ashi. She didn't go visit
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  Speaker 2: her in hospital and it was only thirty to forty
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  Speaker 2: minutes away. That's a tough one.
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  Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, these are assumptions. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and people think they know friendships. Yeah, they think they
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  Speaker 1: know who you are, what your friendship dynamic is. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I do not think my friend is a bad friend
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  Speaker 1: for not visiting me in hospital.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: People have lives, people have children, people have shit going on. Now.
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  Speaker 1: If people come and visit me, amazing, But if they can't,
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  Speaker 1: I would never deem them as a bad friend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that's definitely an outside assumption. But yeah, it's not
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  Speaker 1: something I ever thought. Why were people saying there was
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  Speaker 1: a gag order on others? By the way, I don't
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  Speaker 1: believe it's true. So I think, if you know, you
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  Speaker 1: know what this is about, can I just clarify there
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  Speaker 1: was no gag orders or NDAs or anything put on anyone. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: any of my friendships, anything that's happened. If anything, I've
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  Speaker 1: had one on me before I've had to sign one.
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  Speaker 1: That is a rumor that's been floating around the internet
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  Speaker 1: for the last fucking fifteen years. I have gagglterers and
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  Speaker 1: people not true, completely false. Everyone is free to talk
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  Speaker 1: about what they want to talk about, to say what
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  Speaker 1: they want to say. I think some people will say
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  Speaker 1: that because maybe they don't actually want to tell the
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  Speaker 1: true story. But there's no gaggleaders. Yeah, so I can
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  Speaker 1: clear that up once and for all.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it's harder to be friends with other
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  Speaker 2: influencers if they are real or not? By the way,
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  Speaker 2: I bloody loved this new podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's nice. Well that's more of a question, not
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  Speaker 1: an assumption.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, I kind of think it's a little bit easier
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  Speaker 1: because they understand your world as long as there's no
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  Speaker 1: competitiveness or jealousy, which I haven't really experienced much. But no, libe,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really I don't know. I don't really have
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  Speaker 1: requirements for my friendships or think about that too deeply.
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  Speaker 1: But I love having friends that are in this world
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  Speaker 1: because they want to do content. They understand it. They
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  Speaker 1: don't think of rood if I'm editing a video or
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  Speaker 1: a fight or something. So No, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: And I think there's so much power in collaboration. You
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  Speaker 1: see it all the time on YouTube. Say mister Beaest,
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  Speaker 1: for example, and what's his name, Mark Rober or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: They've got hundreds of millions of followers. They jump on
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  Speaker 1: each other's videos because they get to send each other
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  Speaker 1: they're traffic. I'm like, genius, smart, so good the power
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  Speaker 1: of collaboration. So I think it's cool when you see
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  Speaker 1: other influencers be friends and help each other and share
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  Speaker 1: each other's businesses and stuff. I absolutely love that, and
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  Speaker 1: I've done that from the very beginning. I've always shouted
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  Speaker 1: at the top of the mountaintops my friend's businesses and
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  Speaker 1: what they're getting up to and how proud I am
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  Speaker 1: of them. I will always forever do that. Yeah, you're
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  Speaker 1: a ladle. I don't think that's hard at all.
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  Speaker 2: No, what does the previous co host think about the rebrand?
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  Speaker 1: Good question?
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  Speaker 2: We don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure when she decided to first leave the
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  Speaker 1: podcast she was on that suggested for me to get
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  Speaker 1: a new podcast host and to continue on because she
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  Speaker 1: knew how much I loved it, So I assumed she
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  Speaker 1: was really happy for me, and I really hope that
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  Speaker 1: she's really happy for me. I can't speak on behalf
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  Speaker 1: of her. I'm really happy for her next journey in season,
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  Speaker 1: whatever that entails, as long as it makes her happy.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope she wishes me well too. I don't
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  Speaker 1: really know what she's thinking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all you can really say. Hey, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Can't speak on behalf from someone else. I'm not about
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  Speaker 1: to call her up and ask her what she feels
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And at the end of the day, like it's
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  Speaker 2: a chapter closed for her, it was a choice that
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  Speaker 2: she made. And also this is a choice now that
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  Speaker 2: we're making too, Like you know that you've chose to
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  Speaker 2: bring me on and rebrand the podcast and bring in
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  Speaker 2: a new co host, And now a lot of what
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  Speaker 2: we focus on is what is coming, Yes, And I
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  Speaker 2: think that's been a huge thing about what we've been
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  Speaker 2: doing in the podcast. It's just focusing on what is
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  Speaker 2: coming versus what has gone or anything like that, because
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  Speaker 2: at the end of it, d even for me, like
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  Speaker 2: what has been has nothing to do with me. All
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  Speaker 2: that I get to focus on with you, and what
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  Speaker 2: we're co creating now is what we're creating in the future.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a conversation when all this was happening though,
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  Speaker 1: when I first told her that you were coming on,
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  Speaker 1: I did say to her, if anything comes up, any jealousy, anything,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, there was little things that came up
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  Speaker 1: for her, but I could hold all of that, and
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  Speaker 1: I would understand if I did a podcast and then
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  Speaker 1: left and someone else came in, I would feel, oh,
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  Speaker 1: moments of jealousy, and well, that was my place. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to keep doing that, even if it's the right
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  Speaker 1: decision for me to leave. So I always just try
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  Speaker 1: and understand how that other person might be feeling in
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  Speaker 1: the moment. So I can understand if she looks at
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  Speaker 1: this rebrand and it doesn't feel good, yeah, I can
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  Speaker 1: understand that. However, all I can do is be a
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  Speaker 1: good person and also on myself and what I need.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't want to leave this podcast, hence why
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  Speaker 1: I'm still here, and I just have to focus on
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  Speaker 1: the future.
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  Speaker 2: I think that you did everything that you could as
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  Speaker 2: well to ensure that she felt supported and really do
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  Speaker 2: things like that as things closed up, and that's really
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  Speaker 2: all that you can do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this next one, you're both boring in bed.
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  Speaker 1: Why would someone look at us even assume that that's
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  Speaker 1: so funny? Do we look vanilla? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe, Oh my gosh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Would you describe yourself boring in bed or a bit
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  Speaker 1: more adventurous?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like things change. I would
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  Speaker 2: say that I'm a curious person, Like I'm very playful.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I have this sensual side to me
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  Speaker 2: that likes to explore, and I feel in terms of
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  Speaker 2: like expressing myself with a partner, like I love that
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  Speaker 2: stuff the biggest kick. Yeah, I'm like, we want to
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  Speaker 2: make it fun in the show and like all that
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  Speaker 2: sort of stuff. Yeah, just for me, it's like, why
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  Speaker 2: would I not want to do that with my partner.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we're a going to do a whole episode, so
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  Speaker 1: let us know if you guys want us to do it,
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  Speaker 1: because it's on the maybe list. Yes, of how we
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  Speaker 1: bring the spice into the relationship and the bedroom and
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  Speaker 1: the things that we do. And also I'm in a
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  Speaker 1: relationship for nearly seventeen years. Tiana's a couple of months in,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm getting reinspired. I kind of what you do
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  Speaker 1: at the start of a relationship, and I'm bringing that
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  Speaker 1: back into my relationships. It's a really cool conversation that
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  Speaker 1: we want to have. But let us know if you
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  Speaker 1: guys want to hear that. Yeah, I don't think I'm
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  Speaker 1: boring in bed. I do love slow, intimate love making,
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  Speaker 1: good old missionary. It's beautiful. I feel so close to Stephen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like that. But I also think I'm quite playful
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  Speaker 1: and I love to experiment and try new things, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm very open minded, and so with Steve, we have
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  Speaker 1: a very open dialogue about our fantas season, about all
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  Speaker 1: different things. So I think I'm a mix of both,
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  Speaker 1: and it depends on the season. I'm in, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, after a baby, I'm way more vanilla. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want to take it very slow. I'm not dressing up,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know I wanting different things. I just
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  Speaker 1: want to make love and be gentle. And then right
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  Speaker 1: now I'm feeling extra fucking spicy and I'm loving it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it depends where I'm mad.
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  Speaker 2: How cool is that? I feel like we've kind of
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  Speaker 2: flipped so like for me at the moment, I feel like,
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  Speaker 2: for the longest time, I was always very wanting to
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  Speaker 2: put on a show and a little bit more spicy
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  Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. And don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this is part of who my personality is.
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  Speaker 2: But right now in the season that I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: very love making, it's very essential, it's very intimacy, it's
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  Speaker 2: very slow and centual, and I'm like discovering how much
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  Speaker 2: I really love that because I'm reconnecting with myself and
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  Speaker 2: my partner in like an entirely new way. And I
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  Speaker 2: love this season. Yes, it's so funn next one, as
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  Speaker 2: she gets bored of friends and moves on quickly when
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  Speaker 2: she finds someone new and shiny.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: It's definitely just rolled her eyes. Oh what a crazy assumption. Yeah,
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: That's what people don't realize is I still have the
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: core group of girlfriends I've had since I was a teenager. Yeah,
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: for like twenty years, literally some of them over twenty years. Now.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: I do not get bored of them. In fact, I
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: love every season of them and every season we experience
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: together as friendships. However, there has been friendship breakdowns that
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: have been blasted all over the internet. So I can
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: see why people may think that. And I think this
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: person may be referring to you being the new podcast
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: host and a new friend of my life. You know what,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: no matter how would I get or how many friends
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: I have, I really am open to meeting beautiful new
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: connections that meet me where I'm at right now, and
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: that aligned and that feel good. Why would I not be.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: I'm a lover girl. I love connection. I've always valued
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: friendship and sisterhood. It literally saved me my teenage years.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: I was saying this in an interview the other day,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: and I cry because I don't think I would be
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: here today if I didn't have my friends growing up. Yeah,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: and I still feel like that now. They are so
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: important to me. So now, it's not getting bored. It's
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: when something happens and we can't move past that, or
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: we drift apart and that chapter's closed. It's not our
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: bored onto the next white like a tender date. It
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't work like that.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's interesting about that as well? Sometimes
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: I think people can look at the length of times
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: people have been friends for and go that's more important
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: than the depth of connection, Whereas I actually have a
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: different opinion on that. Yes, I have friendships that I've
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: had for thirteen years, which is an incredible amount of time. However,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: I don't look for how long somebody's been in my life,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: like I'm not looking at that. I'm paying attention to
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: how much that person shows up for me, how safe
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: our relationship is, how will we communicate together, what our
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: bond and our dynamic is like, and what we experience together.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: So even that of like someone new and shiny, it's
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: not that it's for us at least, it's been about
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: the depth of connection.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: It's like marriage when people say, oh, well they've been
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: together thirty years, that's so successful is it? Are they happy?
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Are they still making love? Are they roommates or do
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: they greet each other with excitement each day? And someone
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: that's been together a year, if they're more connected, they
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: feel safe, they have deep conversations, they're growing together with
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: you've been together a year or thirty years, like that
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't define how six cessful the marriage is. It's what's
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: actually happening in that partnership. So I don't look at
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: someone just because I've been together long and think, oh,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: that's an amazing friendship or relationship. Not always the case.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, how are you measuring the success of your connections?
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: That's something that you need to look in on your
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: own rule book as to what you define as successful.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: And you know what as well? Time as well doesn't
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: matter either because it could be Okay, I've had this
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: friend for a year, and I've had this friend for
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: a year, but this friend I can't communicate with. This
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: friend gets mad at me when something happens and pushes
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: me away. This person communicates with me, is open, is vulnerable,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: shares their fears, do you know what I mean? So
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: it depends on how you measure, depends on what you're
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: measuring exactly.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Ashy's sex drive is elite. But can I go on
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: to the next assumption, This is how crazy it is
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Ashy and Steve do not have regular sex. Two completely
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: different assumptions on completely different wavelands whole are opposite pole opposites,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: which goes to show that no one really knows everyone.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Just but just assumptions based on what they think and
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: what they.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: See, projections tell a lot of projections in there.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I have sex every single day. No, we don't have
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: sex every day. We would love to, but we have
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: two children. Yes, and at the moment even we try
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: and have saying to you the other day. Every time
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: we have sex, there is a what are you guys doing?
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: How long are you going to be? Taji wants to
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: know what we're doing in the bedroom. So we do
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: have regular sex, but it's not every single day. Yes,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I would like more sex, but you know that's just
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: the season we're in. My sex drivers elite. I have
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: friends that need it all day every day. I'm definitely
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: not that person. I prefer quality over quantity. Yeah, I
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: like to give it a bit of time, allow things
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: to get sensitive again, and for it to just be
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: more of an experience rather than I don't know, every
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: day doesn't feel as good for me.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I can relate to that. I think as well. It
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: kind of comes monotonous, you know, it's a if you're
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: not like what you said, quality over quantity, it's you know,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: the same thing every single day. As opposed to creating space,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: letting the build up happens, allowing it to be more
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: connected and more intimate, because then it's better anyway, whether
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: you end up having a little bit more of a
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: spicy time or it's a little bit more of vanilla,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: whatever it is, it's like either way, the connection is deepened. Yes,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: and you've had time to allow that to build.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: The build up is so important before play leading up
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to it. So fun starts in the morning.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Honey, it does Tiana plays victim to her sex tape.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: But did it to get famous? Oh my god, that
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: is spicy.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Wow. What do you have to say about that? Oh
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: my god, I don't think you would like no.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: One, It's not something that I would want to become
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: famous from.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Gosh. No, you know, I mean in hindsight, with only fans. Now,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: maybe you could have made some money, but you made
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: any money off that? No, I didn't make any money
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: off you know what I mean?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Like and yeah, like saying like, you know, I wanted
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: to be famous like Kim K, but not like this. No,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just so different and plays victim. I
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say that. I mean, I don't know. Maybe on
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the outside it might look like that, but I definitely
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: don't feel like I do. I feel like I've taken
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of responsibility for the choices that I made
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: that got me into that position, and also the outcome
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: of that was out of my hands as well. Yeah,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: it was also the behavior and choices of somebody else
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: who decided to do that.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: You were a victim to that?
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, No, I don't think that I play victim
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: to it. I don't think I've ever spoken spoken to
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: it in a way where I've been like poor me,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, feel bad for me, pity me. Anytime
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: that I've shared it has simply been to build awareness
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: for other women of two things. One awareness of your
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: boundaries and being like strong enough in yourself to honor
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: what you need in the moment when you need it.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: And two that these things are possible happening, and you
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: never think that it will happen until it happens to you.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: So for me, it's about building awareness and just helping
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: you realize that you can prevent these situations if you're
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: strong in your boundaries, you know who you are and
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: what you want, and you know where you're no lies.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's really important to me. So good.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as she always threatens her ex besties with legal
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: action during friendship breakdowns, false never happened. No, no, and no,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you're up next.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like I've taken t I've kind of seen
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: my face that I just pulled before reading this out. Gosh,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I've heard Tiana had a massive falling out with two bessies,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: all in the coaching industry. So I had a friendship
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: breakdown with one of my old best friends.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: So, firstly, is the assumption true?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I guess yeah, like by her standards, yes,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: by my standards, a friendship breakdown, it's.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: The same thing. I don't know, I think, so yeah.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, So is the assumption true, I mean technically yes, yeah. Yeah.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: So we did end up having just like a falling out.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Our friendship ended up breaking down, and it was really
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: with only one of the girls who was my best
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: friend at the time, and then the other woman who
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: was We were like a tripod kind of friendship, and
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: she naturally decided with her because she was closer with her.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: And so, yeah, it is true. But I wouldn't say
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: that it ended like crazy bad. I mean, there were
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: some things that were said about me that I know
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: are not true that I've heard from other people who
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: have told me. But yeah, I mean in my standards,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: it was we were like not on line as friends anymore,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and like I was super anxious, and I was also
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: taking full responsibility at that time, feeling really insecure in
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: our friendship. I was also a little bit resentful as well,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: because I was in this really people pleasing kind of
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: phase of my journey, and so I wouldn't say what
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I wanted to do. I wouldn't do the things I
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: wanted to do, and I was kind of always going
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: with the flow. And so I got to a point
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: where I did have little passive aggressive stabs and things
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: like that that would come out in a really non
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: productive way. And so yeah, I believe that contributed to
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: our friendship breaking down and her potentially not feeling as
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: safe as what she did in the beginning of our friendship.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: But we were living together, we were doing everything together.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: She was also my business coach, my best friend. We
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: spent every single waking moment together, going to the gym together,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: so we were on top of each other all the time,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: and it just worked out that way that it didn't
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: work out at the time. I couldn't hold my anxiousness
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: in the way that I can now. It's not even
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: a problem for me now, whereas before, I think even
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: she couldn't hold me in my anxiousness. So there were
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: a few things that kind of like fell apart. I
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: am disappoint it in the things that I've heard that
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: have been said about me, If I'm being honest, I'm
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: really disappointed about that because I was a friend, a
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: good friend. Yeah, I was a good friend. I did
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: so many things so her children, and I was like
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: a second mom to them and stuff, and they meant
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: a lot to me, you know, just I couldn't handle
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: my own shit at the time.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: So I hear from that or not all. But is
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: that takes two to tango? Yeah, you both play your roles.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: It's not here to blame or to take all the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: responsibility either. Every breakdown there is two sides to the story,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and both sides are often very true because it's that
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: individual person's experience. You know, with every breakdown that you
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: see or that you go through, or that you've heard
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: of or you know of, there's two people in it. Yeah,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: it's true, sometimes three, sometimes three, and everyone's got their
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: own experience and everyone plays their role.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not like discrediting anybody's experience, like everyone
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: gets to have their experience, this was mine. Yes, And
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: then also again I'm still taking responsibility.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: It was I just allowed to tell your story.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I still feel like I'm not even like
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, it's not there's things that are just
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: not worth sharing, Like I'm not here to lie, bad
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: mouth anybody or anything. Like I'd rather just take responsibility
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: for its mine and leave what's not leave the rest
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: in the past kind of thing, you know what that Yeah.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Would you class yourselves as bisexual and would
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you be open to experimenting with women and your husband
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and boyfriend?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I don't class myself as bisexual.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I've never been with a woman.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And bisexual that would mean that you would be open
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to having a relationship with a woman. It's not just
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to experiment and play. That's what I would my understanding.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: It's like I'm dating a woman.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I'm dating a woman, which I have never done, and
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think I ever would do.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I'm the same. I think women beautiful when women are
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the coolest in the video, but I've never dated a woman.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think I could ever be with a woman either.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I love men, too much, like I do. I love
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: We were talking about this the other day. I love
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the masculine feel that men have, that safety and provider
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: that protector energy. Are like so attracted to that, draw
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: into it, so drawn to it. However, we have had
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: a conversation of curiosity of like, oh, would be open
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: to this? In my head, like in terms of a fantasy,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: it sounds cool on paper, like you know, I'd be like, oh, like,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: would I want to try that? Maybe? But have I
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: had the balls to know?
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I've played around a little bit with a girl before,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm open and I'm curious. However, when I was single,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I had a girlfriend who was bisexual and she played
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: with me more so. Yeah, so I haven't actually done
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a lot for women. I find women very beautiful and
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I'm very drawn too feminine energy because they're so soft
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and sensual and safe.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I just love connection. I value that so much, and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that's something women to women to connect on so much.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of depth there with women. But yes,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think I could ever date women, but yeah,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: curious maybe.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what as well, listen to this like
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: oh hello again, It's like interesting conversation ladies. And there
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: have been times like when I was younger, where I
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: would like get drunk and like cook it with my
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: girlfriends and all that. I feel like everyone does that.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like about this all the time. We
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: go to discos or just like events and we just
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: hook up on the dance floor because everyone's like, yeah girls. Yeah.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's definitely like that's like fifteen at the time.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: At least it wasn't like, oh, I'm like doing this
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: because I'm into you. It's like, oh, we're drunk shit.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Never more for show. Yeah, it's more for show show
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: and pressure and just being young. Yeah.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So no, definitely not bisexual.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: People think you started drama with the previous co host,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: hence why you guys aren't friends anymore? As she the
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: floor is yours.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, No, not at all. I loved our friendship.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I would never in a million years thought that we
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: would have our friendship breakdown. When she came to me
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: and wanted to leave the podcast because she needed to
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: be there for her family more, I was in full support.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I even tried not to show my emotions of her
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: leaving because I didn't want her to ever feel pressure
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to support what she needed in that time.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: And then when she encouraged me to a new podcast hosts,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I did that. The friendship was all good. It wasn't
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: until later on when the friendship broke down, but starting
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: drama with one of my best friends. That could not
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: be more further from the truth. All I ever wanted
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: was to prepare to talk, to communicate, and that was
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: something that wasn't able to happen.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Someone who's been there from the beginning of the journey
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: like it just it's so far from the truth.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: It's so funny. You could literally interview our podcast producers,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: everyone involved, and they would back that to the cows
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: come home. Yeah, that is total opposite. Got to expect
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: these to come in, and we wanted to bring all
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: of these in because we know so many of you
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: are curious about so much of this. Maybe not the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: sexual stuff, but yeah, next, is Tiana even qualified to
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: be a life coach at only age twenty six?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Yes? Oh my god, that's so funny. I mean, depends
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: how you're measuring. I get this projection a lot. Actually,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I've seen it online. I've seen people be like, oh, like,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: you're too young. This and that, and I get that. Like,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, if I was somebody who was
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: my senior and I was looking for someone to support me,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: would I think that I was call it fed to
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: support me? I don't know. It depends what fall right.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it would be like if I
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: were in that position. However, I don't look at age.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think age equals competency or skills equivalent in
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: life experience. And that's how I base me and what
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I do of is that I'm a coach because I've
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: been able to coach myself through what I believe is
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: a significant amount of challenging things in my life. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I believe that there are really valuable lessons that I've
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: learned that I help a lot of women through, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I have been able to help a lot of women
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: through in the past. And you know what's really interesting,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: A lot of my clients are anywhere up to like
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: forty three years old, women who were literally double my age,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: putting all of their trust and faith in me to
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: lead them in something that they don't feel they have
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: a strong suit in, whereas I do. You know, and
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: vice versa. There are things that you know other women,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: or other coaches or whoever else, who is you know,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: more skilled at than I am. Say, for example, one
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: of my clients, she's got two daughters, she's forty two,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: and she's more skilled at being a parent. She has
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: patience for children in a way that I wouldn't because
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I haven't had that experience yet. However, in terms of confidence,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: her struggling with confidence for thirty three years something that
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I've been able to overcome. I can lead her through
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: that and condense the time that she gets there. And
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: she's been dealing with this with thirty three years and
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: was able to overcome it within three months, not one
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: hundred percent, but fully, fully on the journey of her
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: feeling comfortable in her own skin after thirty three years.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: So again it depends how you're measuring. Do you believe
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: that I'm confident? I don't know. That's maybe your own
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: thing and there's no judgment, Like if you think that
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: that's totally fine, you feel you can have that one
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: hundred percent. You might feel more comfortable with somebod who's
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: little bit older. You might want somebody who's been through
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: the things that you've been through. You might maybe if
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: you experience sexual shame. I'm probably a good person to
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: go to because I've experienced that. So it just really
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: depends where you're at, what you want, and who you
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: resonate with.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Actually, yeahred percent.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Who you feel safe with as a coach is so important.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had this projection come at me the other day,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: actually about Claudia, who I hired for the social content
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: for Hideaway. And I had a girl and she's swiped.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: She said, why did you hire Claudia? She's fun? I
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: found her on TikTok. I just thought she matched exactly
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: what I was envisioning to bring to life to the brand.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And she wrote back and she said, is she qualified
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: at anything? Has she started marketing? She's so young? What
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: was her experience? And like fully asking me all these questions.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh interesting, And I voiced message
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: back as I do sometimes, and I said, look, I
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: don't discredit qualifications. I've got Ava who's studying marketing. I've
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: got Georgia who's young and has done her degree in
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: marketing and business. I think qualifications are amazing and serve
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: their purpose, but it's not all I'm going to look
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: for when I hire. I'm big on energy. I'm big
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: on passion. I'm big on people being really honed in
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: on their nie. She's a gen z. She's all over
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: social media. I could see just from what she posts
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what I wanted to bring them hideaway. I
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: could bring someone in who's thirty, who has lots of
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: experience in marketing, who's been in the issue for years,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and lots of unity degrees. They don't have the personality.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: It's not all about that. And it's the same with
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: life coaches versus psychologists, vers psychotherapists, counselors, energy healers. They
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: all serve their purpose and it depends on who you
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: are and what you're looking for personally. I love life
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: coaches because I feel the relationship I build with them
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: is a lot more personal and relatable, and they're more
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: open to sharing their stuff. I resonate with that a
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: lot more, and I've grown so much more from them
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: than compared to when I've gone to a psychologist. I've
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: had Steff who's a food psychologist, on the podcast twice
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: now and I think she's incredible. What she does depends
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: on who you are and what you're needing, and yeah,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: how you're measuring. Yeah, so it's a cool question. Cool assumption. Yeah,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I've got to tackle that one.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I assume you are rich both happiness and money, but
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: you can just buy whatever you want when you want it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Look, I'd love to buy a g wagon outright, it's
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: not happening. I'm not in a position to buy a
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: g wagon outright. They're like five hundred grand. Yeah, oh
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: my god. But do I live a comfortable life? Yes,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: But no, I can't just buy whenever I want, whenever
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I want. Yeah, I'm not Kim Kardashian. Literally, I wish.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Many shiny things. But no, No, I definitely feel very
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: rich in terms of happiness. I feel very content with
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: life at the moment. However, it hasn't always been like that,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: and even the contrast of my life from now to
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: a year ago or six months ago, if I had
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: answered this question, it probably would have looked a little
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: differently because I was in a bit of a trenches
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: kind of season. However, now I just feel really grateful,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: really happy, blessed for the people in my life, and
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: just rich in love, connection and all those things. In
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: terms of money, there's always room to grow, Like, I'm
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: definitely not at the point that I would want to
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: be because I'm always.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Can't retire tomorrow.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, I can't retire tomorrow. I would love to also
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: get a g wagon, but that's not happening today or tomorrow.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm always striving for more. So am I
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: at the point that I want to be? No? Am
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I okay with where I'm at? Absolutely? Do I feel
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: comfortable with where I'm at? Yeah?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: But I want more?
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want more.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Giving myself permission to want more, you know, and always
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: like being okay that I'm always going to want more
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: because I'm always going to want to strive and achieve
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: it a new level. The more it's a new level.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: It's like proving to myself when I'm capable of achieving
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and overcoming and again who you become on the journey.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: It's also hitting goals too, It's like hit a million
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: downloads and podcasts. It's like, amazing, Now I'm going to
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: go for two.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: When you hit different levels of finances, you aim higher.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: It's just the natural progression of it all. It really is,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: you know what, I feel rich into health after having
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: my brain surgery and finding out about my brain aneurysms.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: The fact that I can get up and have energy
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and go and train and have energy to run around
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: my kids and not crash in the afternoon. Oh that's
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: rich to me. You've got health, you have everything, you
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: know healthy, you have your body, You're not here, so
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I feel so rich in life in that aspect.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Mic Drop just end the episode there.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: No, it's still got some juicy ones to do that
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: that's more coming. Oh my gosh, Tiana is covered in tattoos.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: She used to be a drug dealer or a stripper.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Oo, do look like a drug dealer or a stripper?
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: No? Sexy af but like, no, oh my good drug dealer.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Do people look at people with tattoos and think.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: That I never in my life, like, never in my
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: life have had anybody had an assumption like that of me.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I do have tattoos covered in tattoos. I don't know. No,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I have like six little ones and one big one
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: on my hip, but covered in tattoos, so they're all
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: little quotes. I've got serendipity on my God's sake.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: And your parents' birthdates.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, that's funny.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: And you're getting them all removed right now. I am
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the process.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I'm not a drug dealer. Second,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: not a stripper. Thank you for the assumption, but no,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: thank you. Appreciate the girls on stage, it's just not you.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Power to them. Power to them, but it's not for me.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Like otherwise I would have just sold the sex tape.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: And I'm just going to do that, okay, Like it's
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: not what I want. If you guys have seen my
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: posts recently or if you haven't, I am getting all
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: my tatoos removed. So I'm just in the process. Now,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I've started all of them, so we'll see over the
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: next year or two, I will have clear skin.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Again, we go, ooh.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Assumption that Ashy is a girl's girl, meaning regardless of
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: who you are, a stranger off the street or a
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: best friend, she has your heart in her best interest
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: one thousand percent. One thousand percent.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really nice to hear that after all the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: other ones.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: That's a really beautiful assumption because I'm such a girl's girl.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: You really are. You're a love a girl at heart,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: like you love so hard on the people that you love,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: and even from the moment that we met, you always
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: just so warm, welcoming, open and I never felt any
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: ego from you from the very beginning. There was no walls,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: there was no protection, there was no I'm keeping you
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: at arm's length. It was just like straight away, yeah,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: give me a hug, and it was really beautiful.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I think anyone that meets me can feel my energy.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I love bringing women together. I love spending time with women.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: That's why I still reply to I was gonna say,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I reply to every DM. Have you looked at the
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: hidden messages on Instagram? It's a whole another album of messages.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Recently.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't even realize this was a thing. I looked
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: in the other day and there's so many in there. Oh,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: got my actually inbox? I reply to everyone. Yeah, there's
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: all these other ones. Anyways, I for fifteen years I
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: replied to every single woman because everyone's important. It's not
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: just a number to me. I love connection. I love
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: making sure someone feels heard. I love making women feel safe.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I love sisterhood. I really do. It's so important to me.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: It is. Gianna is not friends with anyone from her past.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: There's so much friendship stuff in here for me and you.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's because a lot of people go through it,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: so they're asking, projecting, curious, curious, wanting to not feel
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: alone in their journal. Friendship.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I do have a couple of close friends, So I've
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: got like a handful of acquaintances from like years and
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: years ago, like I'm talking when I was fifteen, a
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: handful of acquaintance. But I've got a handful of really
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: close girlfriends that I've known since I was like eleven,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: and yeah, I just love them to bits, honestly. But
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: in terms of everyone else there, I've definitely been through
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: different seasons of my life where as I've changed and evolved,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I've let go of all of the friends that I
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: became friends with because I just I evolved out of
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: those friendships, and I learned with time, as you do
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: in relationships and friendships, that those people weren't actually for me.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Like there were times where I was friends with people
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: because I was trying to fit in, not because I
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: actually thought that they liked me or that I genuinely
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: liked them as people. It was like, these are the
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: people I'm supposed to be friends with, or trying to
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: mold myself into groups that I actually was never meant
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: to be a part of. So I just gave myself
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of permission that like, if this person isn't
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: my person, it's okay to let them go.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: That's nice.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just a beautiful part of the journey. Yeah, actually
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: actually donates and gives a lot behind closed doors, but
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: doesn't post about it because of haters.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't donate to post, but also I wouldn't
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: post about it genuinely. I don't think, oh, I'm going
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: to donate to post. But yeah, when I have posted
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: in the past that I've donated money or encouraging people
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: to do the same, people assume that I'm doing it
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: for attention. So I just sig, no matter what you do, Yeah,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: you can't to lose those situations. But Steve and I
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: donate and help a lot more than what I think
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: people realize because we want to. Yeah. I've always said
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: if I was in a position to help, whether that's
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: through having a voice and a platform, or if that's
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: financially like for example, every Christmas, I'll find a family
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: to buy the groceries for for the Christmas lunch, and
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I love doing that. We were talking about taking tag
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: next year to a soup kitchen and volunteering on Christmas day.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there's always so many families in need. I
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: share go fund accounts all the time my Instagram, not
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: so much that it's every single day, because then my
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: audience would feel so helpless that they can't donate and
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: help to everyone. But I choose a couple of families
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: each month that I help with the ala fires I've
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: donated to. You know, I always try and do my
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: bit where I can, And if I've got more money,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: if I'm in a really good financial position, I'll donate
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: even more. If I'm not, it might be a little
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: bit less. Yeah, I always want to do my bit
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: where I can.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I love that use your platform for good exactly. It's cool.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: We were talking about this for she Risers.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Actually, yes, some plans there.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is Tiana dating older because he's rich? You got
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: to see this coming.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's true. It's true. That's fair.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: It's true that you're dating because he's rich. No, it's kidding,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I'm kidding.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: No, it's true that to be expected that this come in.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: So for anyone who's listening and doesn't know the man
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: that I'm dating, Lee, we have an age gap, so
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: he's older than me and we have a sixteen year
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: age gap. And no, I'm not dating him because he's rich.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: He definitely is very provider energy and not that I've
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: ever claimed that he's rich or anything like that, just
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: so everyone he knows he is very like provided energy.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: But he takes care of my heart and that's been
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: the biggest thing. Is very emotionally intelligent, very emotionally safe,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: wants to grow with me. It was one hundred percent
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: certain about me from the moment he met me, and
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: it just has been really healing for me.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: So it's also really cool even as an outside now
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: i've met Lean and spent some time with him, that
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: he is successful and good on him. He's worked as
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: absolute freaking butt off. Like I hope he comes on
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: and shares his story one day if you're listeningly, please do.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I really hope he does. He's an incredible man that's
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: worked so hard and should be so proud of its
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: to where he's at, and that's awesome.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: He has an incredible story as well, like where he
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: has come from and what he has done with his
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: life from where he first started and where his journey started.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like so proud of him for the man that
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: he is and just it's been incredible to witness the
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: type of man that he is today, regardless of all
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: those things. It's very impressive and I'm very in awe
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: of him as a man.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: And an attractor and drawn to that kind of fan.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: And he takes responsibility and stuff make something of.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: His life, does he ever? And he just also has
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: his beautiful way of like balancing masculine and feminine energy.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: So he's very much masculine, like got to get it done,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: you know, achieve big things. But he's also I need
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: to connect with myself when I need to do it
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: from a place and listen to my intuition. He's very
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: connected in that sense. So it's very beautiful to see
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: the both both love so good.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Oh this one, I'm guessing this is you have a
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: rape eating disorder and only eat for camera, then you
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: throw it all up. I do even know what they
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: mean eat for camera. I don't really feel myself eating
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: a lot, but that is far from the truth. I
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: have one of the most healthiest relationship with foods. Like honestly,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I still have friends that struggle with their relationship with food,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: but mine is nothing but healthy. I love food. I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: love it for fuel. I love it for enjoyment, I
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: love it for connection, I love it for experience. Yes,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: there is never any guilt or shame or any negative
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: thought process behind the food that I eat. Ever, can't
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: always say it's been like that once again, If you
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: guys listen to my food journey, I go over having
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: disordered eat when I was younger, going through different diet
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: phases and pressure that I felt online. It's from my
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: twelve Days of Christmas. Do you guys want to go
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: and listen to that if you're open to hearing it.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: But no, I've got a very healthy relationship with food.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: As she has someone to reply to her dms, it's
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: never actually her.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Oh interesting. No, in the past, my pa has a me.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: There'll be days where say I would wake up and
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: there's five hundred DMS. I would message Ash, my old pa,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, can you jump in and help me?
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: And she would reply as if she was my pa,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: so they knew it wasn't me. We would never have
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: someone pretend to be me. But now I don't have
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: a PA anymore. When I close down baseline, obviously I
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: didn't need a PA anymore. I do it all myself
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: and I really have for fifteen years. But yes, there's
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: been times of PAS have assisted me. Otherwise when you
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: write in it is me, yeah, amazing, it's a brutal assumption.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll open that up again for
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: a little while. I feel like I need to have
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: a little breather. It's a lot, it was. I'm actually
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: glad came up though, that we got to clear up,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: because it's been some things I suppose I haven't wanted
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: to talk about in fear of I don't know, causing
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: drama or upsetting someone. But it's also nice just for
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: truth to be out there, you know. So it feels good.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: But it was a lot. Yeah, I need Yeah, Oh
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: my god, Bye bye