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S2 E1: Nutrition, Supplementation & Feeling Better on a GLP-1 (with Dr Adam Jameson, REVIV) · This Is My Journey | The GLP-1 Podcast

• 0:00
  So in recent clinical research, nutritional deficiencies have been identified in a significant proportion of people using GLP-1 medications. So observational studies suggest that one in five patients that are prescribed to GLP-1 develop a clinically identified nutritional deficiency within the first year.
• 0:16
  with vitamin D almost coming out on top being one of the most commonly reported. So research shows that this isn't because these medications block absorption, but because appetite suppression and reduced food intake can make it harder to meet those nutritional needs if diet quality is not carefully managed. So when calorie intake drops significantly, nutrients such as iron, vitamin B12, folate, vitamin D, magnesium, and electrolytes can all fall short. So that really matters because symptoms like fatigue, hair thinning,
• 0:45
  low mood and slower recovery are commonly reported during rapid weight loss and may be linked to gaps in nutrition rather than the medication itself. So there's also another layer that also really gets often overlooked and that is genetics. So individual genetic differences can influence how we absorb, metabolize, utilize certain nutrients. So I personally had genetic testing done through Revive and 10x Health and
• 1:10
  It was genuinely insightful, to say the least. So it's highlighted why, for me, some nutrients matter a lot more than others.
• 1:19
  which is something we'll get into later in a very, very second. So today we're breaking down the real evidence around supplementation while using a GLP-1. You know, what actually supports your body? What's just, I suppose, clever marketing? And yeah, what might be behind some of those symptoms that people notice along the way on their journeys with a GLP-1? So let's roll the intro and I'll introduce you to today's special guest.
• 1:46
  Welcome to This Is My Journey, the podcast where real people share real stories of transformation, resilience, and growth. I'm Mark, and after navigating my own path through major lifestyle change, I created this space to open up honest conversations around identity,
• 2:04
  mindset and what it really takes to evolve. So along the way, we'll also hear from professionals, you know, from pharmacists to psychologists and fitness experts who help us make sense of the science and support behind these journeys. So whether you're just starting out deep in the process or you're finding your footing after big change, you are not alone. This is your place. This is my journey. Let's walk it together. Let's walk it together.
• 2:32
  Welcome back everyone to season two of This Is My Journey. I just want to start by saying a massive thank you to everyone who has listened to season one. The support and love you have all shown has been incredible. We, on the last episode there, hit 10,000 listens, which was crazy. So it's just been so heartwarming that you...
• 2:52
  you know, have found so much value in this podcast. And yeah, we're back for season two, but yeah, that's about my love for you guys because today I am joined by Dr. Adam Jameson, a pharmacist by background, a precision health executive at Revive.
• 3:10
  a medical-led preventative health and wellness company, which I have personally visited and love, with over 100 clinics globally specializing in IV therapy, supplementation and evidence-informed precision nutrition. So Dr. Adam blends his background in pharmacy,
• 3:28
  pharmacogenetics and a frontline clinical experience to help people understand what their bodies need, especially during big transformations. Having completed a PhD exploring how the NHS can implement genetically informed medicines prescribing, he is passionate about genetics and empowering health and lifestyle decisions using genetic information. And not only that, he is enthusiastic about nutrition and medicine and,
• 3:54
  and about correcting nutritional deficiencies, improving recovery and helping people feel stronger, not just lighter on a GLP-1 journey. So Dr. Adam, thank you so much for joining me today. Thank you very much for having me. I love speaking to, you know, professionals like you, you know, because it really drums home a lot of the things that we
• 4:15
  think we know, maybe we don't know. It's just great to hear from the professionals and not just people who live this day in, day out. So yeah, so for anyone who hasn't seen you online yet, you know, tell us a little bit about your background and your role at Revive. I know I've seen you a lot on social media. I'm sure some other people will have, but yeah, you know, I just really love how you make your content, you know, making the science easy to understand. So yeah, just tell us a little bit more about you and about your background.
• 4:42
  Yeah, so pharmacist by background, kind of registered in the UK, been a pharmacist for around five or six years now, kind of qualifying during the pandemic. So my initial background in clinical practice was working in mental health, so supporting multidisciplinary psychiatric teams with making decisions about medicines. So helping to understand the kind of pros and cons of antidepressants and psychotics, different medicines we use across kind of mental health care.
• 5:09
  And then, yeah, kind of transitioned quite quickly into PhD research, which was basically exploring how genetics can help inform how we prescribe medicine. So my PhD focused on how we can implement
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  a specific form of genetic testing, pharmacogenetic testing into the NHS and how that can be used to help predict and improve responses to medicines. And then kind of off the back of that, learned about Revive and what Revive were doing in the Precision Health space with their partners in the US, Tenex Health, and the launch of the Precision Genetic Testing in the UK.
• 5:42
  And yeah, joined Revive about a year ago now. And I've been working in the life sciences team, helping to support the rollout of the kind of science that we do across the business. We're a global company, so we've got clinics all around the world. And our job as a life science team is to basically anchor the services and products that we have as a business in the kind of science that they're developed from and ensuring that we're generating evidence for what we do and putting kind of safety at the heart of
• 6:09
  of the products and services we do so i'm really excited about the role that genetics can play in healthcare and and and basically the global transformation of preventative health with with genetics at the center of that helping to helping to kind of tailor and
• 6:26
  personalised interventions in the health and wellness space to individuals' genetics. So that's what I'm really passionate about. And I think it's a level of information that people can unlock through genetic testing. And I'm sure one day in the future, we'll see that it becomes a lot more common for people to have genetic testing.
• 6:43
  some countries around the world, some of their health ministries and governments are making very ambitious plans for their whole populations to have their genetics screened. And I guess at Revive, our role is to ensure that people can actually use that information and use it to their advantage to reach the health and wellness goals and prevent illness and disease progression.
• 7:03
  Yeah. Oh, well, really exciting time for you and exciting area. And, you know, it's something I personally had the chance to sort of dip my toe into recently and had
• 7:16
  the start of my genetic testing journey with Revive specifically. So we'll get into a little bit about that later on. But yeah, no, I'm super excited about this conversation because that's something I had never really thought about before in terms of the genetic side of things, but yeah, just really
• 7:33
  I suppose, keen to know for anyone that's on a GLP-1 journey that will really be listening to this. I think there's so many questions around supplementation and things, and I think it'll just be, it'll be one that people will really want to listen to because it's questions that I get asked online. I'm sure you do too. Just, you know,
• 7:52
  what's the right supplementation and all that. So yeah, lots to dive into today. But yeah, from your clinical experience, then why do so many people on a GLP-1 experience, you know, you know, we hear all the time about side effects in terms of like fatigue and low energy and, you know, low mood and, you know, a big one then too is like hair loss. So what's happening to the body there? Yeah.
• 8:19
  Yeah, so I guess, you know, GLP-1 agonists like Wigovi and Munjaro, they can, you know, cause side effects. And, you know, generally these side effects that you mentioned, so kind of fatigue occurs in about 10% of the people prescribed GLP-1 agonists. We know that kind of hair changes can occur in up to 5% of people. Mood has been reported. There's, you know, lots of...
• 8:39
  lots of kind of media updates and news updates about the downsides and side effects of GLP-1 agonist. But in terms of what a GLP-1 agonist is, I'm sure your audience is familiar with that. GLP-1 stands for glucagon-like peptide. And essentially what that is, is a naturally occurring hormone in the body that
• 8:57
  that basically is released when we eat and it signals to the pancreas to release insulin. And this has a kind of range of effects, including making us feel full, suppressing our hunger signaling and slowing gastric emptying. So allowing more time for food to be in our stomach and be broken down. And the impact of being on a GLP one is obviously, you know, people tend to eat less and they end up in a calorie deficit.
• 9:22
  And what that can cause is quite rapid weight loss. And that's, you know, for people who've been on a GLV-1, they'll be familiar with that. And I guess one of the issues with that is that it can kind of shock the body a little bit and it can push the body into a kind of state of stress. And that's potentially when we start to see some of these side effects when we're going through this kind of big transformation in a short period of time. The body can...
• 9:44
  kind of go into a bit of a stress mode and that's where we see things like hair shredding, hair changing, skin changes. Fatigue and low energy can be as a result of that or it can be more to do with the fact that an individual is eating far less than they usually would and they're not getting that usual calorie intake and energy intake that they're used to. So yeah, it's a mix of how the medication is working but also a mix of the actual weight loss and that transformation that individuals are going through.
• 10:12
  I suppose really sort of tapping into that again then, which deficiencies would you see most often in people on a GLP-1 medication?
• 10:25
  Yeah, so in terms of common nutrient deficiencies that we see in people taking GLP-1s, there's actually been some really interesting research published around this, even in the last year or so. So there's a nice review published by Butch-Katal in 2025, and that basically highlighted that after 12 months of being on GLP-1s, on average, a quarter of people who are prescribed a GLP-1 experience some form of nutrient deficiency.
• 10:52
  This is probably an underestimate as well because these are people that the data is being collected from and that have actually had blood testing. So that's probably a bit of an underestimation as well. But in terms of the specific deficiencies that are common, vitamin D deficiency is really common. Vitamin D deficiency is really common in general populations, let alone for people who have prescribed GLP-1s. But we also see poor protein intake. We see low folate levels, certain B vitamins, vitamin B12 deficiency is quite common as well. So there's a range of nutrient deficiencies that can occur when
• 11:21
  when people are taking glp1s that's you know largely driven by that the fact that they've gone from having a daily calorie intake and then you know that is cut down usually on average between 15 to 40 percent calorie reduction from before being on a glp1 to being on a glp1 so with that you are ultimately and some people are going to see an nutrient deficiencies particularly foods before the before they started their weight loss journey were lacking in nutrition and and
• 11:49
  kind of poorer quality food so yeah a mix of things can contribute to these deficiencies another thing around that as well is if someone's got any gut issues and if they've got kind of poor absorption maybe if they've got ibs or inflammatory bowel disease or anything like that that's also going to you know add to the problem there in terms of you're going to get poorer absorption of the of the nutrition that you are that you are having i suppose then i'm
• 12:13
  Again, kind of related to that, what then are really the signs that I suppose, you know, and obviously this is very generic because there's so many different things there that you've talked about, but like what are them early signs that people could sort of look out for, you know, before symptoms maybe start, you know, showing themselves? Is there ways to tell?
• 12:33
  Yeah, I think there's certainly some signs people can have straight away. So I think it's for people on GLP-1s, it's about kind of listening to your body a little bit, making sure you discuss with your team how the GLP-1 journey is going. But some common signs to look out for are stuff like, you know, we discussed earlier, but things like fatigue, low energy, brain fog, if...
• 12:55
  if you have reduced exercise tolerance, so if you're struggling to maintain the kind of usual level of exercise or activity you do, that can be a sign, an early sign, that you've got a slight imbalance between the calorie deficit you're in and the nutritional intake you're getting and might point towards a nutritional deficiency. So I guess the key question to ask at that point is whether the calorie deficit is too aggressive and is this being caused by escalating the dose of the GLP-1 too quickly or too aggressively?
• 13:25
  In terms of more severe signs that people should be looking out for, any kind of signs of low mood, irritability, issues with sleeping, or any kind of skin and hair changes, that might be a sign of a more severe stress reaction in the body that would suggest that the calorie deficit is too aggressive or the dose has been escalated quickly.
• 13:45
  I think it's just key for people to be, to be open and honest about that. And that doesn't mean that, that someone is failing on the treatment or the treatment isn't working for that individual. It's just about pausing its signal to pause and kind of review that and think, okay, well maybe, maybe we stick at the same dose for a little bit longer or we, we come back down a little bit whilst the body adjusts and gets used to that kind of level of appetite and hunger suppression. I know for me, like it was very, you know, my key thing was just, you know, it was very
• 14:11
  lose the weight and I wasn't really thinking much about, you know, this was initially anyway, you know, about the, the looking out for the signs that maybe that it's all going well and that, you know, the medication's working for me and I'm not having any of these side effects. But in terms of like,
• 14:27
  because you know i hear it all the time about blood work and things like that you know when should maybe somebody on a journey like this you know if we're suffering with anything you know that could be a little bit more serious when is blood tests when is that a good time to to think about or is there other tests that you can have done to help you on this journey yeah so just just to answer your first comment i think you know people
• 14:51
  As they start a GLP-1 journey, individuals get used to what works for them as well. And there might be certain foods that are triggers. Alcohol can be a trigger. So people do tend to, through a bit of trial and error, get used to what works for them and maybe what makes them feel a little bit worse. But in terms of blood testing, I think it's a great tool to use alongside a GLP-1 weight loss journey. I think if you can, it's great to, even though it's not mandatory prior to being prescribed,
• 15:18
  a GLP-1 agonist, I think if you can, it's great to get a blood test done before you start. And depending on how long you're going to be on that medication for during and afterwards, because I think it's a great tool to kind of track that even though, yes, you're continuing to lose weight, but not at the detriment to your nutritional health or your metabolic health, because although, you know, most people that go on a GLP-1 medication, their primary objective is going to be to lose weight. But in order to sustain that and make that sustainable in the
• 15:49
  you need that kind of foundational, nutritional, and metabolic health alongside that. And blood work is a good way to kind of check in on that. And so when you have the blood work done by starting a GLP-1, you can look at different nutrients and check whether there's any deficiencies you're at risk of or that you might have suboptimal levels of initially and kind of correct those straight away as you're getting going. Depending on how long you're going to be on GLP-1 medication for, it's great to get blood work alongside it, particularly if you're going to be on it for the long term and just checking that,
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  Even though you're in a calorie deficit, you're not kind of in a calorie deficit and losing weight to the detriment of your nutritional status. So in terms of specifics, most common blood tests will look at different types of cells in your blood, your liver, your kidney function. If you want to go a little bit further and focus on nutritional status, it's great to look at your kind of B vitamin status, vitamin D status, and folate levels.
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  And then particularly for those who are living with obesity or kind of more severe obesity, it's also good to look at your kind of blood sugars and check out your blood lipid profiles, your cholesterol markers as well, because these are independent risk factors for cardiovascular health, which is driven in many cases through living with obesity. So I think that's always good and actually is another marker of success.
• 17:04
  have been on GRP medication as well, not just the weight loss, that's great, but you know, underneath the bonnet a little bit, there are other improvements in terms of metabolic health and reducing that risk of kind of diabetes and carrying on metabolic disease in the future. There's a lot of improvements in terms of specific blood biomarkers that could be achieved through GRP1 medication. So I think, you know, just from an interesting point of view for individuals, it's good to track that and
• 17:29
  and see the changes and observe the changes over time that you're not relying just on you know the the number on the scales you've also got these these other markers that are really interesting to check out yeah now that's again that's something that i've had done you know on my journey definitely blood work has been key to to seeing that change and and how my health has improved over the last year year and a half something else which is obviously you know
• 17:58
  And, you know, just when you're touching on a few of the things there, I think I'll do a wider piece on this in terms of like results and whatnot. But I think, you know, the genetic testing has been really, really insightful for me. So, you know, I got my results back. And I think the key things that sort of stood out for me was just my absorption in terms of B vitamins and the absorption.
• 18:20
  Folic, you know, it was, you know, my system or my body doesn't absorb them very well. So, you know, that's actually good to know and how I, you know, work out a plan in terms of, you know, getting them into my body. But yeah, there was all lots of different interesting things that came out of that. You know, one was definitely the confirmation that because we do hear it all the time, you know, there's there's that.
• 18:40
  very common attitude that eat less, move more is a very, you know, especially in the weight loss community, it's thrown around a lot, you know, a lot of fitness people will say it and to have the confirmation that my weight is related to hormonal issues and, you know, stress related issues, you know, for me that was comforting because not every, you know,
• 19:09
  size fits all model to obesity and I think there is you know conception that it's just you know eating healthy will just keep you you know at a healthy weight but actually there's more factors that contribute to weight than just the foods that you're eating so obviously it can help but I think yeah it was it was just really it was nice to get that through so yeah yeah there's a
• 19:34
  But yeah, you mentioned there the kind of one size fits all approach and I guess, you know, eat less, move more kind of fits into that very generalized one size fits all approach that is based on kind of popular population level evidence. And it's, it's not considering any individual circumstances for a person there.
• 19:51
  So yeah, you know, at Revive, that's exactly what we're trying to challenge because one size ultimately fits none. And we're trying to kind of transform attitudes towards that and ensure that we're doing everything we can to strive to tailor interventions and advice and recommendations to individuals and based on individual level data. And that's where genetic testing comes in.
• 20:13
  because genetic testing can give you insights into an individual's kind of baseline genetic blueprint. So it can help you understand your biology in more detail. I'd describe it as an extra layer of information, but that makes it seem like quite a thin layer. It's such a rich layer of information you can add on to anything you're doing, particularly if you're striving to go on a kind of weight loss journey or you're looking to improve your nutritional or metabolic health. So yeah,
• 20:42
  The insights you can get from the precision genetic test, which is what we offer, is insights into your kind of body's relationship with food, diet and nutrition. So you can understand more about appetite regulation, how you respond to carbohydrates versus fats, whether you've got a tendency to use muscle mass when you're losing weight and your tendency for muscle mass loss. And then insights into like say some of your nutrient pathways and how well your body absorbs
• 21:09
  and utilises different nutrients. So, you know, this is a lot of information. It's not something that I think I mentioned to you earlier on. It's not something that you can just kind of click your fingers and use overnight. It's an educational resource and implement over a period of time. But I think if for anyone who's starting out on a weight loss journey, it's super useful information because ultimately, if you want to start making changes to your lifestyle and choices, then you want to ensure that those changes that you're going to implement are going to give you the biggest kind of bang for your buck. Yeah.
• 21:38
  And through the genetic insights you can get from the precision genetic test, it's a really useful way of ensuring that what you're doing is right for you and right for your biology and genetics. And I guess the overarching picture of precision health is then combining the genetic insights with what we know about your lifestyle, your goals and your preferences, and then also bringing in blood bio-bacadata.
• 22:00
  combining all of this individual level data together to ensure that any recommendations and changes that you're making is right for you and ensuring we track that in different ways. So the precision nutrition system that we offer with our partners, 10x Health, is basically taking into account all of this and ensures that
• 22:21
  that you've got a tailored nutrition plan in terms of the food choices that you make. And that's right for you and it's giving you the correct blend of micro and macronutrients alongside your precision supplements, which gives your body the specific nutrients at the specific doses that you need. And then obviously IV therapy as well and the precision IV.
• 22:42
  This is all builds, all makes up your kind of precision nutrition system. So yeah, there's an awful lot to unpack there. And I think just the final thing I wanted to say on this was what genetics does on top of blood is that someone can have perfectly normal, optimal levels of specific nutrients in their blood and,
• 23:00
  but not everyone handles nutrients in the same way. Not everyone's bodies respond to nutrients in the same way. And what genetics does is it tells you whether, whether your body is handling certain things better than others. So for example,
• 23:13
  Vitamin D deficiency we mentioned earlier is really common, but even someone with a normal vitamin D kind of level based on population guidance might functionally have kind of a response to vitamin D. So actually they benefit more from higher doses of vitamin D and working more towards the higher optimal range for vitamin D. And this is where genetics offers so much rich insights in terms of it's going to help you to unpack those.
• 23:38
  those little snippets of information and the precision nutrition system we offer is a kind of solution and a framework and a structure to bring all that information together so that people can actually take that information and use it in daily life. No, it's something I'm definitely super excited about unpacking. You know, I've just received it recently and there is a lot of information there to dissect and understand.
• 23:59
  I suppose, utilize going forward in terms of, you know, how I better my health using that information. So, yeah, I'm really keen to get stuck in to seeing what I can do there to help that. But I suppose if somebody wanted to supplement nutrition while they're on a GLP-1 program,
• 24:21
  What are the basics that you'd recommend for anyone that they could benefit from? Yeah, so I think if you're on a GLP one and you're looking to support your nutritional intake, sharing that journey, particularly when you're in a calorie deficit and you're losing weight, I think in general, a well-formulated multivitamin mineral product is going to be helpful just to cover
• 24:40
  cover across a wide range of different nutrients. I mentioned earlier that vitamin D deficiency is really common in general populations, but also in those on the prescribed GLP-1 medications. Ensuring that you've got sufficient intake of vitamin D, particularly during the winter months, is going to be important.
• 24:57
  protein is really important you know if if people are struggling in terms of their calorie intake to meet their protein target looking at kind of shakes and other ways of supplementing protein is really important muscle mass loss is you know obviously a hot topic in the kind of weight loss and glp1 world so doing what we can in terms of ensuring adequate protein intake is going to be really important for for kind of staving off muscle mass loss as much as we can we know that
• 25:26
  how our muscles respond to being in a calorie deficit and whether we're likely to, our bodies are likely to kind of consume muscle mass as a source of energy versus fat tissue. There's a bit of a genetic difference.
• 25:39
  tendency for some people to do that so um but regardless of that everyone should be should be trying to reach sufficient protein intake so as a kind of minimum at least kind of one one gram per kilogram of of of protein um based on people's body weight is it's really important to maintain that kind of muscle muscle mass turnover so yeah
• 26:01
  No, that's really super helpful for anybody. I think it's just starting out in January now. So it's going to be, you know, a lot of people are going to want, you know, try and work on their health and all them tips are key. So thank you so much for sharing them. So in terms of like hair loss and dry skin, you know, they're, you know, commonly mentioned being on these medications. So, you know, what nutrients matter most
• 26:27
  Yeah, so obviously we touched on it earlier with kind of hair loss and hair changes, skin changes can often be a sign that the body's kind of gone into a bit of overdrive mode, a bit of stress mode, particularly when people are on GLP. One on weight loss journeys, it might just be a sign that that calorie deficit, that calorie cut has been slightly too aggressive. It can lead to kind of hormone changes that drive some of these skin and hair changes. So I think ensuring from a nutrition point of view, it's just ensuring that you've got enough iron and zinc.
• 26:57
  B vitamins, selenium is a really important one as well, often in kind of hair and skin supplements. So there are kind of a few niches that are going to be really important to ensure adequate intake of
• 27:08
  At Revive, obviously, we've got IV therapy and we have products that are targeted towards helping people meet their beauty and health and wellness goals. So again, we've got IV therapies that include B vitamins, vitamin C, selenium as well. So the benefit of IV therapy versus oral supplementation is that it bypasses the digestive tract. So if anyone's got kind of gut issues or if someone's feeling...
• 27:33
  slightly nauseous or they're struggling to meet their nutrition or hydration needs through their food and diet, IV therapy is a really good tool there to kind of bypass the digestive tract and deliver nutrients straight into the bloodstream and provide a more optimal absorption pattern.
• 27:49
  Yeah, no, I was lucky enough. I, when I was visiting Manchester, I was lucky enough to get a chance to call in to revive and try out the mega boost you guys have. So yeah, so it was really, really good. I actually had a really bad cold afterwards. And I think, to be honest, it could have been a lot worse if I had not had that beforehand. So yeah, and it was really, really helpful. And I definitely find the benefit of taking that. So, you know, and obviously just not being on a GLP-1, but in general, you know, I just think it's, it's,
• 28:18
  I think IV therapy is definitely really helpful. And just on hair loss as well, you know, if someone is experiencing kind of more severe skin changes or hair loss, whilst they're on job, I think again, that's a really important signal for people to go back to their prescriber and say, you know, look, this is happening and it might point towards other medical issues. I mentioned the kind of hormonal issues, whether it's stress hormones and thyroid issues.
• 28:43
  or more autoimmune issues. It really is a signal to get booked in for a blood test and check out whether there's any underlying causes to that or whether it is simply just the GLP-1 medication and going slightly too hard on the dose or the calorie deficit.
• 29:00
  No, totally. And I suppose you just touched on something there I was going to say, and it was, you know, when does IV therapy, you know, when does it make sense for somebody being on this journey? You know, there's multiple reasons to do it, even if you're not on a GLP one, but definitely there's a lot of benefits to doing this alongside being on a GLP one as well.
• 29:21
  Yeah, for sure. And at Revive, we've got a fully medical infrastructure. So when you come into clinic, you speak with one of our practitioners, you have a full medical screening process. So all your past medical history and your goals and objectives are taken into account. The IV therapies are prescribed by a qualified prescriber.
• 29:40
  And then also, you know, the beauty of Revive is that we also have the ability to take into account your bloods, your genetics, and really personalise whatever therapies you go for to you as an individual and your underlying biology and genetics. So that's what we do through the Precision IV, all the ingredients are dosed based on your genetic reports. So maybe the next time you come into clinic, you can check out your Precision IV and you can compare that to the MegBoost that you had. So yeah, I think the
• 30:10
  that IV therapy has a place for anyone, not just those on GLP-1s, but I think it's important to also mention that it has a place as part of a broader health and wellness plan and not to forget the kind of fundamentals and foundations. So ensuring food-first approach to nutrition, adequate hydration, sleep and recovery, fitness exercise, and kind of psychological wellbeing. All these are, for me, kind of pillars of good long-term longevity and health.
• 30:40
  and you know IV therapy oral supplementation as well you know have their place within that kind of broader plan yeah definitely and that's how I I suppose have to really try to treat my health in the last year you know that you know there's multiple different aspects of it that I'm wanting to to look at and you know to be the best version of me in terms of health that I can be so you know that IV therapy and and
• 31:05
  You know, that's kind of what led me to Revive in the first instance, was just trying to look at all them different pillars, as you say there, and work on them all to the best, I suppose, that I can do. But yeah, no, I had a fantastic experience when I was there, and definitely it's something that I am going to continue on this journey doing because I see the real benefits to it and definitely having that genetic experience.
• 31:29
  you know, then results come back and tell me what, you know, what I really need to work on has been really, really, really insightful and beneficial. So yeah, I suppose we're sort of coming to near the end for this session. But ultimately for anyone that's listening, you know, that
• 31:47
  has maybe just started this journey and is struggling with side effects, you know, or low energy on their journey. What is that one piece of advice that you would give them to take away from today? Yeah. It's, um,
• 32:02
  Getting into one piece of advice might be difficult. But yeah, you know, people experience side effects when they're on job. They might experience kind of low energy and fatigue and feel a little bit drained when they're in that calorie deficit on that weight loss journey. But yeah, I think if I could give one piece of advice, it would be to, you know, listen to your body and maybe think about what tools you can use to address some of those issues. So again, it comes back to some of the basics.
• 32:28
  around kind of exercise, movement, activity, strength training to support muscle mass. Ensuring the food that you are eating is nutritionally rich and particularly ensuring it's got adequate fiber and protein intake. And I guess, you know, if symptoms are not going away or side effects are occurring, making sure that you discuss that with your team. I know that often people experience side effects, particularly upon initiation or for a week or so after dose increases.
• 32:57
  For most people, they're only minor and they do settle down. So it's not always a sign that treatment isn't working or it's just not right for you. It's just often a case of giving your body a little bit of time to adjust and get used to that kind of changes. But in terms of nutritional support and blood testing and genetics, people have the option to seek out further tools, whether it's genetic testing, blood testing, to get further insights into their journey and really ensure that they're,
• 33:27
  they're achieving their weight loss within a framework and within a structure that's going to give them that long-term success. And I mean that even though it might be difficult during those early periods or after dose increases, but ensuring that that's, you know, going to be sustainable and long-term and that's where the, you know, the precision nutrition system comes in really nicely because it helps people to understand their relationship with nutrition a little bit more.
• 33:49
  it gives them a better chance of ensuring that those difficult moments are all worth it in the in the end because they can kind of sustain that weight loss and weight management in the long term yeah no well that's going to be really helpful advice to anyone listening i'm sure and
• 34:06
  Yeah, I suppose, you know, so much you've said there today that is, I suppose, new information every day is a school day for me, you know, when I'm doing these because, you know, you think after a year and a half of doing this and knowing my body, I would know a lot of this now at this point, but actually, you know, it's always new. So thank you so much for sharing your insights. And yeah, I suppose if anyone's looking to
• 34:32
  follow you or find out more about Revive or anything like that, I will drop the link in. So wherever you're listening to this podcast, there'll be the links all in the caption and stuff there. So, but, but yeah, I would really encourage everybody to go give you a follow because, you know, like I say, you're, you're trying to, I suppose, showcase the science to
• 34:53
  you know, it can be very difficult, as I mentioned before we even started this podcast, some of the terminologies and stuff for the person like me can be hard, harder to understand. So I really appreciate, you know, people like you coming on and talking to us and I suppose a way that we're all going to understand that's not maybe like super scientific that, you know, that we're not going to pick that up. Yeah, no, I appreciate that, Mark. And it's, you know, that's at the heart of what we do. You know, we want to make
• 35:21
  We want to make everything that we do kind of actionable for individuals. You know, science is great and it's always exciting to see new research come out. But the real beauty of science is when you can bridge that gap to the general public and allow people to be for benefits of new research and new approaches. And, you know, as a kind of life science led Precision Health and kind of product tech company where we're.
• 35:44
  We're very bogged down in the science, but we want to bridge that gap to the public and make everything we do accessible. And, you know, our social and communications team are great at kind of putting that content out there. And, you know, if people want to check out our social media channels, you know, we're always trying to underpin what we do with the science, but making that accessible to the public. So, yeah, it's something we're very passionate about.
• 36:09
  Yeah, obviously there's a website and stuff that you guys have as well, which I know I've linked in my bio and things. So if anybody's looking to find any more information, you know, there's stuff there in my bio and likewise, I'll have everything in the caption here as well. So yeah, all that for me to say is thank you so much, Dr. Adam, for joining me today for our very first episode of season two. It's been really insightful, like I said, and yeah, there'll be lots of takeaways for anybody that's
• 36:35
  you know, starting this journey on this journey, maybe coming to the end of the loss part of their journey, but actually the maintenance side of it is so much more. And that's for me is where the journey has really begun, because that's where I'm really delving into all this now. So thank you so much for sharing all your insights. And yeah, look forward to chatting to you again, because hopefully there'll be a few more.
• 36:57
  chats and delving into the breakdowns of some of that genetic stuff as well. That's all Mark. And yeah, likewise, look forward to chatting again soon.