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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello.
- 0:01Speaker 2: My name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr the
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- 0:33Speaker 1: Let's get into it. She's on the Money. She's on
- 0:37Speaker 1: the Money. Hello and welcome. She's on the Money podcast
- 1:00Speaker 1: for millennials who want financial freedom. My name is beck
- 1:03Speaker 1: Syed Victoria Divine is with me. We are twelve. You
- 1:06Speaker 1: were just trying to jump straight into the towers, so
- 1:12Speaker 1: you almost forgot that I'm just as passionate about tax
- 1:15Speaker 1: as you are, and I forgot you were here. Oh really,
- 1:19Speaker 1: that's crazy, because you know, I am actually, like, you know,
- 1:21Speaker 1: a bit of an expert in finance. So yeah, I
- 1:23Speaker 1: heard you were like kind of becoming a tax expert. Yeah,
- 1:28Speaker 1: I would you know, it's not a stretch.
- 1:29Speaker 3: So what date are we working towards?
- 1:31Speaker 1: So June thirty is fast approaching, so we're going to
- 1:35Speaker 1: be talking about tax time. Are you excited?
- 1:37Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:37Speaker 1: Because June thirty is my birthday. Oh yeah, so ten
- 1:40Speaker 1: out of ten always excited. Can you think of a
- 1:43Speaker 1: better birth date for this finance Galie, I can't a
- 1:48Speaker 1: single date. Maybe like the first of July, maybe new
- 1:51Speaker 1: tax year would be a good one, but like June thirty.
- 1:55Speaker 1: My dad's an accountant, so I was born to ruin
- 1:58Speaker 1: his accounting each and every single year, and I just
- 2:01Speaker 1: live for that.
- 2:02Speaker 3: I still live for that. But I'm very excited.
- 2:04Speaker 1: I can imagine that a lot of people are probably
- 2:07Speaker 1: just really excited about this time of year, Beck, But
- 2:09Speaker 1: I do imagine it's a time of dread for a
- 2:11Speaker 1: lot of people. Yeah, Becklook, it can feel a little
- 2:14Speaker 1: bit intimidating if you don't feel like you're on top
- 2:16Speaker 1: of your income tax, which is exactly why we're doing
- 2:19Speaker 1: an episode today to get you ready for tax time,
- 2:22Speaker 1: the sexiest time of the entire year. We're going to
- 2:25Speaker 1: be looking at some changes that you really should be
- 2:27Speaker 1: aware of, and also some things that the at O
- 2:29Speaker 1: are cracking down on this year, and then we're going
- 2:31Speaker 1: to give you some tips and tricks to help this
- 2:33Speaker 1: time of year run a little bit smoother. I feel
- 2:36Speaker 1: like that's a good way to kind of like do
- 2:38Speaker 1: a tax episode if we're being honest. Yeah, perfect, nice
- 2:41Speaker 1: and easy, nice and gentle. And did you know that
- 2:43Speaker 1: the Taxman cracks down is taxman tax person? Unsure of
- 2:47Speaker 1: what we're going to be identifying them as, but did
- 2:49Speaker 1: you know that each and every single year we'll get
- 2:51Speaker 1: to it later this episode, they actually announce what they're
- 2:54Speaker 1: looking out for this year, just red hearing or yeah,
- 2:57Speaker 1: just like a little warning like, hey, guys going to
- 3:00Speaker 1: be looking out for this this year, and hey guys,
- 3:02Speaker 1: like this is what we're gonna be cracking down on
- 3:05Speaker 1: this year. So it's good to know because often the
- 3:08Speaker 1: things that they're cracking down on are related to recent
- 3:11Speaker 1: changes which we will get too very soon, and they
- 3:14Speaker 1: are this year as well, so I'm not surprised by them.
- 3:16Speaker 1: They're not just picking random things. They actually have some
- 3:20Speaker 1: method to their madness. But it's good to just be
- 3:23Speaker 1: in the know. It's not maybe the sexiest episode, let's
- 3:26Speaker 1: be honest, but it's one of those episodes where you're
- 3:28Speaker 1: gonna walk away being like, no, I can actually do
- 3:30Speaker 1: that myself. I do feel like I'm completely in control
- 3:33Speaker 1: of this process and I'm no longer overwhelmed. So we
- 3:35Speaker 1: love that. Wow, that is a perfect outcome. I hope
- 3:38Speaker 1: they're not just like trying to throw us off the scent.
- 3:40Speaker 3: But they're not trying to throw us off the scent promise.
- 3:42Speaker 1: They actually really want us to pick up on the
- 3:44Speaker 1: scent so that they get to do less work.
- 3:46Speaker 3: It's quite intelligent, to be honest.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Oh that's very smart. Yeah, exactly. V. This might actually
- 3:50Speaker 1: surprise you, but I have prepared some stats for you.
- 3:53Speaker 3: Are you trying to take my job as resident statscal?
- 3:57Speaker 1: I thought I was being subtle about it, But maybe
- 3:58Speaker 1: I'm not being so subtle.
- 3:59Speaker 3: Maybe time don't announce it?
- 4:01Speaker 1: A good idea next time. So did you know that
- 4:05Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen slash twenty twenty, Australians paid four hundred
- 4:09Speaker 1: and forty six million point four billion billion in tax.
- 4:15Speaker 1: That's so many dollar rules. But the atier recons that
- 4:18Speaker 1: if what are you doing with that albow? Yeah that's
- 4:20Speaker 1: a very what are you doing with that Albut do
- 4:22Speaker 1: you want to call him. I've got him on speed dial.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Do you know what if anybody has
- 4:26Speaker 1: Elbow on speed dial, it absolutely would be you, no doubt,
- 4:31Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean we work for arn wasn't here
- 4:34Speaker 1: Kyle Sandlanz's wedding true, So we basically have him on
- 4:37Speaker 1: speed dial. We could get in touch with them. So
- 4:39Speaker 1: that's could if we wanted to. If we don't want to,
- 4:41Speaker 1: we just want to do this tax episode exactly. So
- 4:44Speaker 1: the atier reconds that if all Australians were paying the
- 4:46Speaker 1: correct amount of tax, they would have received four hundred
- 4:50Speaker 1: and seventy nine point eight billion dollars. Yeah, so some
- 4:54Speaker 1: people are being a little bit cheeky. That's not actually
- 4:57Speaker 1: too bad. What do you mean doing the four hundre billions?
- 5:01Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, that's not a big discrepancy at all.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Like if those were my bank account details, I would
- 5:06Speaker 1: not be mad about that at all. Beck each year
- 5:09Speaker 1: the Eightier actually makes the lists of things that they're
- 5:11Speaker 1: going to be paying closer attention to, which I mentioned before,
- 5:14Speaker 1: and for the next round of tax reporting, that's actually
- 5:17Speaker 1: going to be all about improving their systems and also
- 5:20Speaker 1: our awareness or let's be honest, the honesty to get
- 5:23Speaker 1: more money back into treasury. That figure that you mentioned
- 5:27Speaker 1: Beck still means that ninety three percent of people in
- 5:30Speaker 1: Australia are paying what they owe. Those percentages are pretty
- 5:34Speaker 1: good because if you compare it to the USA, their
- 5:37Speaker 1: figures actually sit at around the eighty five percent mark.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Who've said this on the podcast before. Please substantiate your claims.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Like if you're just going in and being like, ah,
- 5:47Speaker 1: I work as an executive assistant, Oh, look, I can
- 5:50Speaker 1: claim up to two hundred dollars on you know, some
- 5:53Speaker 1: care products without receipts, I'll just claim that that's actually illegal. Like,
- 5:58Speaker 1: you need to be able to substantiate that with proof,
- 6:02Speaker 1: with a receipt with something. Even if they're not asking
- 6:04Speaker 1: you to submit those receipts, they can actually audit you.
- 6:08Speaker 1: And we have had people in our community get audited
- 6:10Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, but I just claimed up to
- 6:12Speaker 1: the threshold. It's like yes, but the atier can come
- 6:15Speaker 1: back and ask you to prove that. And each year
- 6:18Speaker 1: they take a bucket of random people and they ordered
- 6:21Speaker 1: them to make sure that we're doing the right thing
- 6:23Speaker 1: and being good people. So essentially the golden rule at
- 6:26Speaker 1: tax time for everybody in our community is if you
- 6:30Speaker 1: can't substantiate it, don't claim it. That's so scary. It
- 6:33Speaker 1: can be scary, but I just also think it shouldn't
- 6:35Speaker 1: be scary if you're doing the right thing. Yeah, Like,
- 6:37Speaker 1: if you haven't claimed things that you haven't spent, then
- 6:40Speaker 1: it is what it is. And I mean, if you
- 6:42Speaker 1: know the taxman came knocking and said, hey, that you've
- 6:45Speaker 1: been picked up in the audit and we're just going
- 6:46Speaker 1: to audit all your expenses and some care came up right,
- 6:49Speaker 1: like suncare sounds so small, but it's something that so
- 6:52Speaker 1: many people can be picked up on because it's like
- 6:55Speaker 1: a very low threshold where you go, oh, that's another
- 6:58Speaker 1: two hundred bucks. I don't have to prove that I spent.
- 7:01Speaker 1: They're going to ask you to prove that you spent it.
- 7:03Speaker 1: If you don't, you're going to be up for one
- 7:06Speaker 1: paying it back, but you'll have to pay it back
- 7:07Speaker 1: with interest. That's essentially a fine beck and that is scary.
- 7:11Speaker 1: I don't want to be in trouble with the tire trouble.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Then you have a little red flag against your name
- 7:15Speaker 1: for next year and all of it. It's just not
- 7:17Speaker 1: worth your time, I promise. Yeah, that actually makes sense,
- 7:19Speaker 1: So I guess we should go into the changes for
- 7:22Speaker 1: this year. We else So there are a few changes,
- 7:24Speaker 1: so I've round up the big ones for individuals first.
- 7:27Speaker 1: The first one's not that great. The low and middle
- 7:30Speaker 1: income tax offset. It didn't get extended, so as a result,
- 7:34Speaker 1: low to middle income earners they might see their tax
- 7:36Speaker 1: refund from July twenty twenty three reduced between six hundred
- 7:40Speaker 1: and seventy five dollars and fifteen hundred bucks for incomes
- 7:44Speaker 1: up to ninety thousand dollars, but phasing out up to
- 7:47Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty six thousand dollars. Just feel like
- 7:51Speaker 1: they could have extended that each to their own. The
- 7:53Speaker 1: Medicare low income threshold for twenty twenty two to twenty
- 7:56Speaker 1: twenty three year is going to be increased, so we
- 7:59Speaker 1: do like this. For singles, this will be increased to
- 8:01Speaker 1: twenty four thousand, two hundred and seventy six dollars, which
- 8:05Speaker 1: is up from twenty three thousand, three hundred and sixty
- 8:08Speaker 1: five dollars for the twenty twenty one twenty twenty two year.
- 8:11Speaker 1: And then for couples with no children, the family income
- 8:14Speaker 1: threshold is going to be increased up to forty thousand,
- 8:18Speaker 1: nine hundred and thirty nine dollars, which is an increase
- 8:21Speaker 1: from thirty nine thousand, four hundred and two dollars from
- 8:24Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two year. So
- 8:27Speaker 1: the additional amount for threshold for each dependent child or
- 8:30Speaker 1: student is also going to be increased to three thousand,
- 8:33Speaker 1: seven hundred and sixty bucks, up from three thousand, six
- 8:36Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen dollars. Personally, I think that could have
- 8:39Speaker 1: gone a little bit further, but you know what, at
- 8:41Speaker 1: this point in time, Beck, you get what you get,
- 8:43Speaker 1: and you don't get upset. Sorry, V. I know that
- 8:46Speaker 1: we have a full episode to go through, but I
- 8:48Speaker 1: just wanted to quickly ask I have no idea one
- 8:51Speaker 1: what a tax offset is into what a lowcome threshold is. Okay,
- 8:55Speaker 1: so so I am reacting like I do, but I
- 8:57Speaker 1: don't actually know that's literally so classified as a low
- 9:02Speaker 1: income threshold. So this might sound like a lot of money,
- 9:06Speaker 1: but to receive the low income tax threshold, your taxable
- 9:10Speaker 1: income needs to be less than one hundred and twenty
- 9:12Speaker 1: six thousand dollars. You also have to be an Australian
- 9:16Speaker 1: resident for tax purposes. If you earn under that, you're
- 9:20Speaker 1: going to get access to a few different like tax
- 9:23Speaker 1: off sets. So a tax offset is something that you
- 9:25Speaker 1: can claim that other people might not be able to claim.
- 9:28Speaker 1: So they're saying, look, because you have a lower income,
- 9:31Speaker 1: we're going to allow you to claim a little bit
- 9:32Speaker 1: more than a higher income earner just to kind of
- 9:35Speaker 1: make life easier for you. And often they do this
- 9:38Speaker 1: during periods of like turmoil, where you know, gas and
- 9:40Speaker 1: electricity and stuff are really expensive, to hopefully get some
- 9:44Speaker 1: more money back in your pockets. One hundred and twenty
- 9:46Speaker 1: six thousand dollars sounds like a lot of money, but
- 9:49Speaker 1: in reality, I won't say it's not, because it is
- 9:52Speaker 1: a lot of money for a lot of people. But
- 9:54Speaker 1: if you're a you know, a dual income household and
- 9:57Speaker 1: your total household taxable income is one hundred twenty six
- 10:00Speaker 1: thousand dollars and you have kids and stuff that does
- 10:03Speaker 1: not go as far as you think it does, so
- 10:05Speaker 1: these offsets kind of come in to boost you up
- 10:08Speaker 1: a little bit. The other benefit there is often you
- 10:11Speaker 1: can get access to things like healthcare cards and stuff
- 10:13Speaker 1: like that. So if we say you're on a low
- 10:15Speaker 1: income threshold. It means that you basically have access to
- 10:19Speaker 1: a few different I guess let's call them bells and
- 10:21Speaker 1: whistles that other people might not have access to purely
- 10:25Speaker 1: because you don't earn more than a certain amount. It's
- 10:28Speaker 1: the government trying to put you in a better position
- 10:30Speaker 1: because you know, we want you to be paying less
- 10:33Speaker 1: tax if you have less income, which I think is
- 10:35Speaker 1: a fair system that makes a lot of sense. Thank you, V.
- 10:38Speaker 1: Sorry you may continue, Oh, thank you so much, but
- 10:41Speaker 1: I think it's important, Beck. And you know, there are
- 10:43Speaker 1: a lot of people that listen to this podcast, and Hi,
- 10:46Speaker 1: if you're new here, I'm Victoria and this is Beck
- 10:48Speaker 1: and we love what we do. But someone might have
- 10:50Speaker 1: picked up this episode because they're like, oh, fire out,
- 10:53Speaker 1: tax time's coming. I'm a little bit stressed and this
- 10:54Speaker 1: is their first introduction. Like, those are really good questions
- 10:57Speaker 1: to be asking. And I've said there's no such thing
- 11:01Speaker 1: as a silly question in this community, especially from you,
- 11:03Speaker 1: because if you're thinking it, our community are thinking it.
- 11:06Speaker 1: So please always, always, always, buddy, And I think it's
- 11:08Speaker 1: really really important. Thank you V.
- 11:10Speaker 3: Of course.
- 11:11Speaker 1: So the next thing I wanted to address was for
- 11:13Speaker 1: single seniors and pensioners eligible for the Seniors and Pensioners
- 11:17Speaker 1: tax offset, so they get, you know, some more cash
- 11:20Speaker 1: in their back pocket because they are a senior. The
- 11:23Speaker 1: Medicare levy low income threshold is going to be increased
- 11:27Speaker 1: to thirty eight thousand, three hundred and sixty five dollars,
- 11:30Speaker 1: which is up from thirty six thousand, nine hundred and
- 11:33Speaker 1: twenty five dollars from the twenty twenty one to twenty
- 11:36Speaker 1: twenty two year. The family threshold for seniors and pensioners
- 11:40Speaker 1: is going to be increased. This is like dual income
- 11:44Speaker 1: increased to fifty three thousand, four hundred and six dollars,
- 11:47Speaker 1: up from fifty one thousand, four hundred and one dollars,
- 11:49Speaker 1: which is a nice little bonus. Plus three thousand, seven
- 11:53Speaker 1: hundred and sixty dollars for each dependent.
- 11:55Speaker 3: Child or student. Ah, so that's nice.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Again. The next to are a little bit further down
- 12:01Speaker 1: the track, but they are to me a pretty big deal.
- 12:04Speaker 1: So under the Stage three tax changes from the first
- 12:07Speaker 1: of July twenty twenty four, the average marginal tax rate
- 12:11Speaker 1: is thirty two point five percent. It's going to be
- 12:13Speaker 1: cut beck and we're going to be paying less tax
- 12:15Speaker 1: if you're in that bracket. It's going to be cut
- 12:17Speaker 1: to thirty percent for one big tax bracket between forty
- 12:21Speaker 1: five thousand, get this all the way up to two
- 12:24Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. That is a far wider range than
- 12:29Speaker 1: it was before because historically it was up to about
- 12:32Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty so that's so much more money.
- 12:35Speaker 1: This will then more closely align to the middle tax
- 12:37Speaker 1: bracket of the personal income tax system with corporate tax rates,
- 12:41Speaker 1: so the thirty seven percent tax bracket will be entirely
- 12:45Speaker 1: abolished at this time, which is kind of cool. But
- 12:48Speaker 1: this means that from the first of July twenty twenty
- 12:50Speaker 1: four beck there's only going to be three personal income
- 12:53Speaker 1: tax brackets, so nineteen percent, thirty percent and forty five percent.
- 12:58Speaker 1: So from the first of July twenty twenty five more
- 13:00Speaker 1: taxpayers earning between forty five grand and two hundred grand
- 13:03Speaker 1: they'll face a marginal tax rate of thirty percent. And
- 13:06Speaker 1: with these changes, around ninety four percent of Australian taxpayers
- 13:10Speaker 1: are projected to face a marginal tax rate of thirty
- 13:13Speaker 1: percent or less.
- 13:15Speaker 3: That is so good.
- 13:16Speaker 1: That is really such a low average tax rate and
- 13:19Speaker 1: I think that that's really sexy if you didn't keep
- 13:22Speaker 1: up with that, because I feel like I do talk
- 13:24Speaker 1: very quickly when I get excited about something. More people
- 13:27Speaker 1: better off when it comes to tax, Yes, full stop,
- 13:31Speaker 1: end of story. More people paying less tax. That's pretty sexy. Back,
- 13:35Speaker 1: that's so good. More people less tax. What a good outcome?
- 13:39Speaker 1: What a great outcome? I really really like that. There
- 13:42Speaker 1: is another update, Beck. I just wanted to share this
- 13:44Speaker 1: because I thought it was real cool. It doesn't happen
- 13:46Speaker 1: until twenty twenty six, but I mean time flies when
- 13:49Speaker 1: you're having tax fun Are you ready? Superannuation as of
- 13:54Speaker 1: the first of July twenty twenty six, will actually be
- 13:57Speaker 1: paid on your pay day, not quarterly, not annually. It
- 14:01Speaker 1: will be paid every time you get paid, which at
- 14:05Speaker 1: the moment, for most people I would say that their
- 14:08Speaker 1: employers pay tax on a quarterly basis, so once every
- 14:12Speaker 1: three months. This is actually really good for you because
- 14:15Speaker 1: the more consistently that you're investing, the more opportunity you
- 14:19Speaker 1: have to make use of something called dollar cost averaging.
- 14:21Speaker 1: We've spoken about this on the podcast before, but dollar
- 14:24Speaker 1: cost averaging is essentially where you're investing more regularly and
- 14:29Speaker 1: your subernuation, as we know, is a tax structure that
- 14:32Speaker 1: you're investing within. And if you're investing more regularly, what
- 14:36Speaker 1: that means is you're making the most of the highs
- 14:39Speaker 1: and the lows of the market. So instead of investing
- 14:41Speaker 1: four times a year, you'll be investing probably twelve if
- 14:44Speaker 1: you get paid monthly, and you'll be investing twenty six
- 14:47Speaker 1: times if you get paid fortnightly. I think that's pretty sexy. Yeah, okay,
- 14:51Speaker 1: that's top girlshit. I love that all right. Beck you
- 14:54Speaker 1: have a little graphic design business. If people want to
- 14:57Speaker 1: check out your graphic design business. What's the Instagram you? Oh,
- 15:00Speaker 1: this is so nice. Well, Sorr, shouldn't call you that?
- 15:03Speaker 1: If you can call me whatever you want, but ideally
- 15:05Speaker 1: you call me a nice name when I'm being nice
- 15:07Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, that's true, beautiful queen, thank you. It's
- 15:11Speaker 1: designed by Beku. Becku is spelt b Ecu. It's really cute.
- 15:17Speaker 1: If you haven't checked out beck before, she has just
- 15:20Speaker 1: recent is it recent? It's quite new, like it's been
- 15:22Speaker 1: around ages, but like you've just started taking it seriously.
- 15:25Speaker 1: That is true. I kind of like ebbs and flows,
- 15:28Speaker 1: but recently I have been more active on, but you've
- 15:30Speaker 1: become a small business owner technically recently I started to
- 15:33Speaker 1: take it very seriously, so I thought, right here would
- 15:36Speaker 1: be a good spot to have some small business owner tips.
- 15:39Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of people in our
- 15:41Speaker 1: community who have either side hustles or small businesses, and
- 15:44Speaker 1: this is where you need to listen up because these
- 15:46Speaker 1: things are actually really important. I don't care if you
- 15:50Speaker 1: just drive an Uber a couple of nights a month,
- 15:53Speaker 1: but those things are not counted as hobbies. I do
- 15:56Speaker 1: not care what your accountant says if you're driving income.
- 15:59Speaker 1: When need to make sure that we are being transparent
- 16:02Speaker 1: to the government because I have seen too many times,
- 16:05Speaker 1: and you'll see in our Facebook group come tax time,
- 16:08Speaker 1: there will be an influx of posts like this, Oh
- 16:11Speaker 1: my accountant said that I earned less than five thousand
- 16:14Speaker 1: dollars salt was a hobby. No, you worked for Uber,
- 16:17Speaker 1: or you worked for DoorDash, or you did something that
- 16:19Speaker 1: was generating an income. That was definitely not a hobby.
- 16:22Speaker 1: The government's going to want to know about it. But
- 16:24Speaker 1: one of the things that I think is worth mentioning
- 16:26Speaker 1: here is the instant asset. Right off, it's going to
- 16:29Speaker 1: return with a twenty thousand dollars threshold per asset from
- 16:34Speaker 1: the first of July twenty twenty three to the thirtieth
- 16:37Speaker 1: of June twenty twenty four. So this is a relatively
- 16:41Speaker 1: good thing in general because instant asset right off means
- 16:44Speaker 1: that you can claim the depreciation of an asset, so
- 16:47Speaker 1: how much an asset is going to decrease in value
- 16:49Speaker 1: over time in a one off lumpsum, and that is
- 16:52Speaker 1: good for tax. If you had a good year where
- 16:54Speaker 1: you had a good amount of income come in, that's
- 16:57Speaker 1: a good way to write things off. Owners of people
- 17:00Speaker 1: who want to buy cars are not too impressed because
- 17:04Speaker 1: on the first of July this year, it is going
- 17:06Speaker 1: to drop down from about fifty nine thousand dollars worth
- 17:10Speaker 1: of instant asset right off for your car back down
- 17:13Speaker 1: to the twenty thousand. So if you're looking for potentially
- 17:16Speaker 1: a car, now's the time to have a quick chat
- 17:18Speaker 1: with your accountant to make sure that maybe you could
- 17:20Speaker 1: slip in before the new financial year. But small businesses
- 17:24Speaker 1: with aggregated turnover of less than ten million dollars, can
- 17:28Speaker 1: you believe that's what's constituted as a small business? I know, Oh,
- 17:32Speaker 1: I've got less than ten million bucks, so are you tiny? What? Tiny?
- 17:36Speaker 1: Little business? Wild? They're going to be immediately able to
- 17:39Speaker 1: deduct the full cost of eligible assets costing less than
- 17:42Speaker 1: twenty grand that are first used or installed ready for
- 17:46Speaker 1: use between the first of July twenty twenty three and
- 17:48Speaker 1: the thirtieth of June twenty twenty four. So that twenty
- 17:52Speaker 1: thousand dollars threshold is going to apply on a per
- 17:54Speaker 1: asset basis, So small businesses can basically instantly right off
- 17:59Speaker 1: multiple ascide not just one, yeah, right off a whole
- 18:03Speaker 1: heap of them. And you know what, you're like, Hey,
- 18:05Speaker 1: what could be twenty thousand dollars? If you're a small
- 18:08Speaker 1: business and you work in beauty. Maybe you're buying a
- 18:10Speaker 1: laser machine, Maybe you're buying like ipl Maybe you're buying
- 18:14Speaker 1: something like a facial machine or something that's really expensive
- 18:18Speaker 1: and you really want to reinvest in your business. This
- 18:20Speaker 1: is where you need to talk to your accountant to
- 18:22Speaker 1: make the most of these benefits, because if you don't
- 18:25Speaker 1: understand them and you don't know how to use them
- 18:28Speaker 1: as a small business owner, you're doing yourself a disservice.
- 18:31Speaker 1: We need to be putting ourselves first. And one of
- 18:33Speaker 1: the things that you can do to put yourself first
- 18:35Speaker 1: as a business that wants to grow is to actually
- 18:38Speaker 1: understand what you can and can't do when it comes
- 18:40Speaker 1: to tax. Yeah, because let's be honest, the instant asset
- 18:44Speaker 1: right off of up to twenty thousand dollars, you might
- 18:46Speaker 1: be like, what does that mean? That means that we
- 18:48Speaker 1: get to claim back the tax we paid on it.
- 18:51Speaker 1: That's a big, big discount on an item that you
- 18:54Speaker 1: needed to purchase anyway for your business. Sexy, Yeah, Okay,
- 18:58Speaker 1: that's making sense. Girls. So there's no minimum for assets. No, No,
- 19:03Speaker 1: it would need to be an asset though. You can't
- 19:04Speaker 1: just go buy a stapler claim depreciation on that. But
- 19:08Speaker 1: like I mean, it's usually bigger ticket items that small
- 19:11Speaker 1: business owners hesitate to purchase because they're like, oh, I
- 19:14Speaker 1: don't know if this is going to be like a
- 19:15Speaker 1: good thing or about I think talk to your accountant.
- 19:18Speaker 1: We're just sharing general information on this podcast to kind
- 19:20Speaker 1: of like trigger something or to kind of get you
- 19:23Speaker 1: to go talk to a professional. At the end of
- 19:25Speaker 1: the day, you cannot rely on just this podcast for
- 19:28Speaker 1: your tax advice this year. Go and talk to an
- 19:30Speaker 1: accountant and if you don't have an accountant, now is
- 19:33Speaker 1: the time to go. Maybe I need one because you
- 19:35Speaker 1: can actually claim accountants fees.
- 19:37Speaker 3: On tax next year.
- 19:38Speaker 1: Wow. So there's been plenty more stuff back for small
- 19:41Speaker 1: business owners announced I honestly, if I was a small
- 19:44Speaker 1: business owner, I would be heading to the at year
- 19:46Speaker 1: website to read up on them before it gets too
- 19:49Speaker 1: close to the thirtieth of June. Because when it comes
- 19:52Speaker 1: to assets before, I told you that it needs.
- 19:54Speaker 3: To be first used or installed.
- 19:56Speaker 1: You can't just buy something and have it delivered midway
- 19:58Speaker 1: through July and claim it in the previous year.
- 20:01Speaker 3: Like, that's not going to work.
- 20:02Speaker 1: It has to happen pretty soon, Okay, So it has
- 20:05Speaker 1: to happen before the thirtieth of June, otherwise it goes
- 20:08Speaker 1: into the next financial year. Time's a ticking, it is, indeed.
- 20:12Speaker 1: So do you know what you want to talk about next?
- 20:14Speaker 1: Unrelatable for you, but might be really relatable for a
- 20:17Speaker 1: lot of people in our community. Back sa Vie, I
- 20:19Speaker 1: really want to talk about something that I can certainly
- 20:22Speaker 1: relate to what's going to happen to us property investors. Also,
- 20:25Speaker 1: I'm just kidding because I'm not a property investor and
- 20:27Speaker 1: I don't earn any properties, but someone out there might
- 20:30Speaker 1: want to know. So what can property investors do this year?
- 20:33Speaker 1: What can they except be privileged? Track on it?
- 20:36Speaker 3: So I'm working on it.
- 20:37Speaker 1: The government is actually going to introduce tax incentive changes
- 20:41Speaker 1: to help increase the supply of housing, so that's pretty sexy.
- 20:44Speaker 1: The incentives are as follows. I've written them down there,
- 20:47Speaker 1: two of them, and they're quite complicated, and I knew
- 20:50Speaker 1: I wouldn't remember them. They're not that complicated, but I
- 20:52Speaker 1: knew I wouldn't remember them, so I wrote them down back.
- 20:54Speaker 1: So the first is an increase in the depreciation rate.
- 20:57Speaker 1: So for capital works purposes, depreciation is where things lose
- 21:01Speaker 1: value over time. And when we say for capital works purposes,
- 21:05Speaker 1: it might be like an extension that you're putting on.
- 21:07Speaker 1: So the extension you see, it might be worth two
- 21:09Speaker 1: hundred grand back, but in a couple of years, like
- 21:11Speaker 1: you know, a twenty ten kitchen's not that sexy anymore.
- 21:14Speaker 1: I just ripped one out of my house, and I'm
- 21:17Speaker 1: telling you right now, nobody is going to pay for
- 21:19Speaker 1: that red splash back back in twenty ten. Though, that
- 21:22Speaker 1: was a very good investment. That was a very nice kitchen,
- 21:25Speaker 1: so it was worth a lot. Then it depreciated over time.
- 21:28Speaker 1: Now nobody thinks it's worth anything with that lino floors.
- 21:31Speaker 1: I know. Look we ripped those out two also the
- 21:33Speaker 1: false ceilings they had to go, so there was just
- 21:36Speaker 1: a lot. But essentially that depreciation rate has been increased
- 21:41Speaker 1: from two point five percent to four percent per year
- 21:44Speaker 1: for eligible new build to rent projects where construction commences
- 21:49Speaker 1: after the ninth of May twenty twenty three, and the
- 21:53Speaker 1: reduction in the rate of the withholding tax for eligible
- 21:57Speaker 1: fund payments for managed investment trusts or am I So
- 22:00Speaker 1: like completely unrelated to you, but if you're following along
- 22:03Speaker 1: and going, well, that's me to foreign residents on income
- 22:07Speaker 1: for newly constructed residential build to rent properties after the
- 22:10Speaker 1: first of July twenty twenty four goes from thirty percent
- 22:14Speaker 1: down to fifteen percent, subject to further consultation on eligibility criteria.
- 22:18Speaker 3: Can you see why I wrote them down?
- 22:20Speaker 1: I can see. Yeah, yeah, so I had to write
- 22:22Speaker 1: them down because I was like, there's no way I'm
- 22:24Speaker 1: going to remember that mouthful. But essentially that means that
- 22:28Speaker 1: more people will be able to invest as foreign residents,
- 22:31Speaker 1: and that's a relatively good thing because it will increase,
- 22:35Speaker 1: hopefully the amount of rental properties that are available for access,
- 22:38Speaker 1: and as we know right now, rental properties are going
- 22:42Speaker 1: bonkers because there's not enough of them. The Home Guarantee
- 22:45Speaker 1: scheme is going to be expanded from the first of
- 22:48Speaker 1: July twenty twenty three. I think this is a very
- 22:51Speaker 1: good thing. So the government has announced an expansion to
- 22:54Speaker 1: the criteria enabling people to participate in the different home
- 22:57Speaker 1: guarantee schemes. Eligibility criteria for all elements of the scheme,
- 23:01Speaker 1: including the First Home Guarantee, the Regional First Home Buyers Guarantee,
- 23:05Speaker 1: and the Family Home Guarantee, they're going to be extended,
- 23:08Speaker 1: which is very very sexy. That's actually it kind of
- 23:11Speaker 1: sounds familiar, is that we're like, the government give twenty
- 23:14Speaker 1: five percent and you give five percent to a deposit
- 23:17Speaker 1: or Am I making this up? No, you're not making
- 23:19Speaker 1: it up. It's absolutely correct. It's actually a scheme that
- 23:21Speaker 1: exists to support eligible first home buyers purchase a home sooner.
- 23:25Speaker 1: The thing that personally I like about this is that
- 23:29Speaker 1: the government's basically underwriting you, but they don't own any
- 23:32Speaker 1: of your property. Where there are schemes out there where
- 23:35Speaker 1: the government kind of like co purchases with you and
- 23:38Speaker 1: when you sell the property, you owe them an amount
- 23:41Speaker 1: of money, and I don't particularly love the strings attached
- 23:45Speaker 1: to that, But essentially, there are only a limited number
- 23:48Speaker 1: of places.
- 23:49Speaker 3: So the places that.
- 23:50Speaker 1: Are going to be available in the twenty twenty two
- 23:52Speaker 1: slash twenty twenty three financial year are thirty five thousand places,
- 23:56Speaker 1: and it means that you could purchase a property with
- 23:59Speaker 1: a five percent deposit if you're a first home buyer
- 24:02Speaker 1: and you've like never purchased property before and you're purchasing
- 24:05Speaker 1: a new or an existing home. You could be single,
- 24:08Speaker 1: you could be a couple, But then depends where you're purchasing,
- 24:12Speaker 1: because obviously different properties in different areas of the country
- 24:15Speaker 1: have different amounts that they are worth. Maximum price purchases
- 24:19Speaker 1: will apply, so like Sydney is going to be higher
- 24:22Speaker 1: than you know Camera for example, So I think it's
- 24:25Speaker 1: important to just look into it if you're interested in that, though,
- 24:29Speaker 1: the best thing you could do is talk to a broker.
- 24:32Speaker 1: And obviously I'm quite biased. I own a mortgage broken
- 24:34Speaker 1: company and if you happen to be listening to this podcast,
- 24:37Speaker 1: you probably would get along really well with us. Go
- 24:40Speaker 1: check out Zella Money and we can sort you out
- 24:42Speaker 1: and tell you whether you can get into that or not.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Because when we say there are thirty five thousand places
- 24:48Speaker 1: each year, usually that thirty five thousand amount is divided
- 24:52Speaker 1: up among the years, so there might be you know,
- 24:54Speaker 1: a quarter each quarter available or open, and they're actually
- 24:58Speaker 1: only available through through certain banks, so there are like
- 25:02Speaker 1: a heap of hoops. But it can be a really
- 25:04Speaker 1: good way to get into your first home. And I'm
- 25:07Speaker 1: really glad that it's sticking around. Okay, I really like that.
- 25:11Speaker 1: I think it's pretty sexy.
- 25:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:13Speaker 1: I just really like that they've kind of prioritized and
- 25:16Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not asking for feedback here. We all
- 25:19Speaker 1: know that there are things that could be done better
- 25:21Speaker 1: and changed, but it does feel like they have tried
- 25:23Speaker 1: to put people who are currently not that enchanted with
- 25:27Speaker 1: their property market in a position where they might, you know,
- 25:30Speaker 1: get that in chairman back.
- 25:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:32Speaker 1: I love that each year the ATIO releases things ahead
- 25:35Speaker 1: of the eof hy.
- 25:37Speaker 3: End of financial year.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Oh, she's a genius. By me your coke? Okay, are
- 25:43Speaker 1: your coke? They will focus on certain things ahead of
- 25:46Speaker 1: the end of financial year. What are they cracking down
- 25:49Speaker 1: on this?
- 25:49Speaker 2: All?
- 25:49Speaker 1: Right, So they're cracking down on a few things, and
- 25:51Speaker 1: I alluded to this at the start of the episode.
- 25:54Speaker 1: This one is going to make sense, and that is
- 25:56Speaker 1: working from home. So obviously during COVID we all worked
- 26:00Speaker 1: from home a fair bit. But now everyone's heading back
- 26:03Speaker 1: to offices, but grudgingly, but we're all heading back to officers.
- 26:07Speaker 1: So the ATO is apparently sharpening it's focus in twenty
- 26:10Speaker 1: twenty three on capital gains, tax and work related expenses,
- 26:15Speaker 1: including changes to work from home claims. So from the
- 26:19Speaker 1: first of March, taxpayers claiming work from home related deductions
- 26:23Speaker 1: will be required to provide more detailed documentation. Fair the
- 26:29Speaker 1: COVID shortcut isn't happening anymore. It allowed you historically to
- 26:34Speaker 1: claim eighty cents each hour that you worked from home
- 26:36Speaker 1: and cover all deducting running expenses. Not a thing anymore effective.
- 26:42Speaker 1: From the first of July twenty twenty two, the ATO
- 26:45Speaker 1: announced a revised fixed claim of sixty seven percent per
- 26:50Speaker 1: hour worked from home. This is supposed to cover additional
- 26:53Speaker 1: like running expenses for things like internet and electricity, phone plans,
- 26:56Speaker 1: or like stationary and stuff you need at home. There
- 26:59Speaker 1: are separate deductions that can be made for other purchases,
- 27:02Speaker 1: so for things like desk chairs or computers or bookshelves
- 27:05Speaker 1: immediately if the price is below three hundred bucks, or
- 27:08Speaker 1: as depreciation over time if it costs more, so you
- 27:12Speaker 1: can pick which one there. The crucial point, though, is
- 27:15Speaker 1: that you need to demonstrate to the ato that you
- 27:18Speaker 1: did only incur these expenses because you are working from home.
- 27:22Speaker 1: So you can't just set up like a little at
- 27:25Speaker 1: home office because you think it'll look real chic in
- 27:27Speaker 1: the corner of your lounge room, and then you don't
- 27:28Speaker 1: work from home, and then you think you can claim
- 27:30Speaker 1: it because everybody else is no sis, That's not how
- 27:33Speaker 1: it's going to work. They're going to ask for proof.
- 27:36Speaker 1: To claim using the fixed rate, you actually need to
- 27:38Speaker 1: provide a record of all the hours worked from home
- 27:41Speaker 1: for the entire year, as well as receipts or invoices
- 27:45Speaker 1: to show you paid for these expenses covered by the
- 27:48Speaker 1: fixed rate method.
- 27:50Speaker 3: Do you have friends that.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Work from home? Yes? Do you think that they're actually
- 27:54Speaker 1: keeping a log book of how many hours that they're
- 27:57Speaker 1: working from home? Definitely not, so like that's something that
- 28:02Speaker 1: we should be aware of and before doing your tax
- 28:04Speaker 1: maybe pop a really simple one together and work it out, like,
- 28:07Speaker 1: just do the right thing, do the right thing, don't
- 28:10Speaker 1: just claim it. I know a lot of people will say, oh,
- 28:12Speaker 1: you can claim this, or you can. It's not that
- 28:15Speaker 1: simple anymore. And if you mess up or you do
- 28:17Speaker 1: the wrong thing, it can be relatively serious. I mean,
- 28:21Speaker 1: the tax man isn't as scary as people seem to
- 28:23Speaker 1: make him out to be. It can be not so
- 28:26Speaker 1: good when you're claiming things that you aren't entitled too, though,
- 28:29Speaker 1: and that's where I think professional help could come into it.
- 28:32Speaker 1: But if I'm being brutally honest, if you are a
- 28:34Speaker 1: salaried PAYG employee, it's relatively easy to work out. Haybeck,
- 28:40Speaker 1: did you incur any expenses this year? Did you have
- 28:43Speaker 1: to buy a desk chair to work from home? Yes? Okay?
- 28:45Speaker 1: Can you please look up in your bank statements because
- 28:48Speaker 1: bank statements are easily looked into how much you spend
- 28:51Speaker 1: it off as works great, you can claim that, no worries,
- 28:54Speaker 1: but we really need to make sure that we did
- 28:57Speaker 1: incur those things. We're not just writing down, oh, we
- 28:59Speaker 1: want to a little refund for this and this and
- 29:01Speaker 1: this even when we didn't incur it, Like, that's just
- 29:04Speaker 1: cheeky and not on.
- 29:06Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just trying to make friends with the taxman.
- 29:08Speaker 3: So he's like smiling and he looks for my return.
- 29:11Speaker 1: Let's be honest, it doesn't order you this year. Yeah,
- 29:13Speaker 1: I'm just say, oh, hey, that ve girl, she's really nice.
- 29:16Speaker 1: We love her famous to Ato yeah, same same, but
- 29:19Speaker 1: essentially separate records for claims not covered by the fixed
- 29:23Speaker 1: rate will also be necessary, So just record keeping is
- 29:26Speaker 1: really important. There is an Ato record keeping app if
- 29:29Speaker 1: you want it, or if you're a little bit more
- 29:31Speaker 1: old school. I don't really want to have an app either.
- 29:34Speaker 1: I actually just take photos of things throughout the year.
- 29:38Speaker 1: I save it to a random album. Then when tax
- 29:40Speaker 1: time comes, I just go to that album and everything
- 29:43Speaker 1: I need is there. Once I've claimed it, I delete
- 29:45Speaker 1: everything and then I start fresh for the year. On
- 29:48Speaker 1: that's a great idea.
- 29:49Speaker 3: I think it's quite smart, to be honest.
- 29:50Speaker 1: Obviously, don't delete them forever, because you do need to
- 29:53Speaker 1: keep those things on record for seven years in case
- 29:55Speaker 1: you are audited. But I remove them from the album
- 29:58Speaker 1: because I don't need to, you know, quit check.
- 30:01Speaker 3: But also low key phone hack in your phone when
- 30:04Speaker 3: you're searching for photos, did you know you can just
- 30:07Speaker 3: like type in words now and a look true in
- 30:09Speaker 3: the photo.
- 30:09Speaker 1: I can type in people's name what and its your
- 30:12Speaker 1: people's having folder of Victoria divide. Oh my gosh, that's
- 30:16Speaker 1: really creepy. Let's move on. Let's move on, all right.
- 30:19Speaker 1: So the ATO this year is going to be like
- 30:21Speaker 1: narrowing in on people who are claiming a substantial amount
- 30:25Speaker 1: or all of their personal phone or internet plan as
- 30:29Speaker 1: work related because basically, the ATRO doesn't believe that deductions
- 30:33Speaker 1: for purchases like this can only be made for the
- 30:36Speaker 1: portion of time that is actually used for business. So like,
- 30:40Speaker 1: let's be brutally honest.
- 30:42Speaker 3: I don't even.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Bother claiming my phone anymore because I have an unlimited plan.
- 30:47Speaker 1: I pay a set amount each month, and you know what,
- 30:50Speaker 1: I mainly use it for TikTok. So I just have
- 30:53Speaker 1: stopped claiming that because I don't want to get in trouble.
- 30:56Speaker 1: But yeah, only claim what is worth it. And then
- 30:59Speaker 1: the ATIRO also concerned that too many taxpayers are automatically
- 31:03Speaker 1: claiming their five thousand kilometer limit regardless of the actual
- 31:07Speaker 1: amount that they have traveled. So it's seventy eight cents
- 31:10Speaker 1: per kilometer that can be claimed available for journeys of
- 31:13Speaker 1: up to five thousand kilometers. But essentially they're going to
- 31:16Speaker 1: be looking into that as well this year. But I
- 31:18Speaker 1: think I used to do that. I was like, where
- 31:20Speaker 1: am I going, I'm not going anywhere. I feel like
- 31:22Speaker 1: people historically have always been like, oh, well, if you
- 31:24Speaker 1: don't need to provide receipts, I'm just going to claim
- 31:27Speaker 1: up to the minimum threshold and let's be honest, like ATO,
- 31:29Speaker 1: please don't come for me. I'm sure like eighteen nineteen,
- 31:32Speaker 1: twenty year old Victoria was doing that. I can't remember,
- 31:35Speaker 1: but I totally feel like if someone said, oh, you
- 31:38Speaker 1: don't have to prove that, I'll be like, yeah, right,
- 31:41Speaker 1: I'm in.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Yeah, it isn't.
- 31:43Speaker 1: Let's be honest. But it's now a more complicated tax system.
- 31:46Speaker 1: It's a far more educated tax system. I mean, let's
- 31:50Speaker 1: be honest, with the likes of chat GPT. I'm not
- 31:52Speaker 1: saying that the ATO was using that, but with the
- 31:55Speaker 1: advancements of technology, I guarantee they are going to be
- 31:58Speaker 1: so much more I guess advanced at checking whether maybe
- 32:02Speaker 1: you are doing the right thing or not. Without actually
- 32:04Speaker 1: having to get too many humans involved. And the more
- 32:08Speaker 1: they're able to do that, the more they're able to
- 32:10Speaker 1: crack down on people, because I promise that would be
- 32:13Speaker 1: an automated process. Obviously am speaking completely out of tune
- 32:17Speaker 1: here because I don't work for the ATO, But if
- 32:20Speaker 1: the ATRO were smart, they would have created some kind
- 32:23Speaker 1: of aibot that overarchingly looks at everyone's stuff and if
- 32:27Speaker 1: any abnormalities come up, they automatically send an audit letter
- 32:31Speaker 1: to you and you then have to prove it.
- 32:32Speaker 3: Like that's how I would run.
- 32:34Speaker 1: It, No, but they make it make sense right, And like,
- 32:38Speaker 1: if I'm thinking of that, I guarantee someone at the
- 32:40Speaker 1: ATO is sure. Sure. So it's just it's better to
- 32:43Speaker 1: be safe than sorry. Just do it properly the first time.
- 32:46Speaker 1: That's what this episode is all about. That's very true.
- 32:49Speaker 1: V we've forgotten about one person or people? Oh have we? Yeah? Who?
- 32:53Speaker 1: What about our finance bros? Cryptocurrency? Oh the finance bros?
- 32:58Speaker 3: Do you reckon? They'll want to know about crypto.
- 33:00Speaker 1: I think they'll want to know about crypto. So you
- 33:02Speaker 1: think there are finance bros listening to this podcast? I
- 33:05Speaker 1: think do you know what?
- 33:07Speaker 3: Hello?
- 33:08Speaker 1: To the finance bros who are currently driving the car
- 33:11Speaker 1: where that girlfriend has control of the iPhone and what
- 33:14Speaker 1: is currently playing in the car. Yeah, well no, it's
- 33:18Speaker 1: quite clearly she's on the money. They're quite clearly she's
- 33:22Speaker 1: on the money. But you know what, that would have
- 33:24Speaker 1: been a better suggestion. I don't know why you.
- 33:26Speaker 3: Guys are still here, but let's talk about crypto.
- 33:29Speaker 1: The atier is also going to be taking a much
- 33:31Speaker 1: closer look at those making investments into cryptocurrencies like bitcoin,
- 33:36Speaker 1: So increasing numbers of taxpayers you're not going to be
- 33:38Speaker 1: surprised at jumping on the bandwagon.
- 33:41Speaker 3: And the Eightier.
- 33:41Speaker 1: Believes that some of them are failing to declare their
- 33:45Speaker 1: profits and in some cases their loss is beck that
- 33:48Speaker 1: they're making on their investments. So you need to remember
- 33:50Speaker 1: that investing in cryptocurrencies can give rise to capital gains
- 33:54Speaker 1: tax on profits. Traders can be taxed on their profits
- 33:58Speaker 1: as business inc as well, So we need to be
- 34:02Speaker 1: just very aware of that cryptocurrency, while it is not
- 34:06Speaker 1: a regulated financial asset here in Australia, it is an
- 34:10Speaker 1: asset that you need to declare any profit on, Like
- 34:13Speaker 1: if you make fifty bucks from it, you actually have
- 34:15Speaker 1: to tell the ATO about that, and it's illegal to
- 34:18Speaker 1: not do that. But the other thing you need to
- 34:20Speaker 1: understand when it comes to assets is how long you
- 34:23Speaker 1: hold them. So if you hold an asset, even if
- 34:26Speaker 1: it is cryptocurrency, make a whole heap of money on
- 34:29Speaker 1: it and sell it within the first twelve months, the
- 34:32Speaker 1: tax rate is going to be higher than if you
- 34:34Speaker 1: held it for longer than twelve months, So please be
- 34:37Speaker 1: aware of that before you decide I'm the best crypto
- 34:39Speaker 1: bro ever and I'm making all this money because you
- 34:42Speaker 1: might be bitten in the bottom with a nasty tax
- 34:45Speaker 1: bill which nobody wants like. Let's be honest, just be
- 34:48Speaker 1: aware of it to help them in their search.
- 34:50Speaker 3: The ATO is collecting.
- 34:52Speaker 1: Bulk records from Australian cryptocurrency designated service providers or DSPs
- 34:58Speaker 1: as part of a data matching program to ensure people
- 35:01Speaker 1: trading in cryptocurrency are paying the right amount of tax.
- 35:05Speaker 1: Data includes cryptocurrency purchase and sale information, and the data
- 35:09Speaker 1: will identify taxpayers who failed to disclose their income details correctly.
- 35:15Speaker 1: Isn't that a bit scary? That is a bit scary.
- 35:17Speaker 1: Just feels like it's getting real serious. Yeah, do you
- 35:20Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna repost this because it was a
- 35:22Speaker 1: good TikTok. It was like, Hi, tax man, I'm just
- 35:25Speaker 1: wondering how much taxio. They're like, oh, we don't know
- 35:28Speaker 1: how much tax do you woe? You calculated and tell us?
- 35:31Speaker 1: And then you say, oh, mister tax man, so you're
- 35:33Speaker 1: saying you don't know how much tax iiO, so can
- 35:35Speaker 1: pay whatever I want. They're like, oh, no, we know,
- 35:37Speaker 1: we know how much tax you want? Will tell us. Yeah.
- 35:40Speaker 3: At what point.
- 35:41Speaker 1: Are we going to not have to do our own
- 35:43Speaker 1: tax return because it's just going to be automated. M Like,
- 35:47Speaker 1: I'll give you access to my bank, mister ATO man,
- 35:50Speaker 1: go do my tax for me. I don't want to
- 35:52Speaker 1: do it. Can't that become an automated process? Nobody likes
- 35:55Speaker 1: tax time? Do you know what?
- 35:57Speaker 3: They like getting their refunds.
- 35:59Speaker 1: Yes, we just automate that, mister taxman, and we'll be
- 36:02Speaker 1: much happier with you.
- 36:03Speaker 3: Honestly.
- 36:04Speaker 1: The ATO estimates that they are between half a million
- 36:08Speaker 1: to one million Australians that have invested in crypto assets.
- 36:12Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a lot of people, a lot of people.
- 36:14Speaker 1: That's a lot of people. And do you know what
- 36:16Speaker 1: still scares me. Obviously this is just personal opinion, but haha,
- 36:20Speaker 1: it's my show. But it just still baffles me that
- 36:24Speaker 1: there are so many people willing to invest in crypto
- 36:28Speaker 1: but are still too scared of the share market. Right,
- 36:31Speaker 1: They're like, oh my gosh, the share market. That's really scary,
- 36:33Speaker 1: and it's like crypto's worse. But okay, so I think
- 36:37Speaker 1: it's all about education. We've done episodes on crypto, we've
- 36:40Speaker 1: done introductions to the share market, go back and look
- 36:43Speaker 1: for them. The best way you can do that is
- 36:45Speaker 1: actually to just type in on your chosen podcast platform,
- 36:48Speaker 1: She's on the Money, and then the topic that you
- 36:50Speaker 1: want and will automatically come up with linked episodes. So
- 36:54Speaker 1: I think a lot of.
- 36:54Speaker 3: People don't know you can do that.
- 36:56Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually you don't have to scroll through everything,
- 36:58Speaker 1: my friend. You can just type I few she's on
- 37:01Speaker 1: the money crypto and our crypto episodes will come up. There.
- 37:04Speaker 3: You go pretty sexy.
- 37:05Speaker 1: No one's for the finance pros. But another huge but
- 37:07Speaker 1: still emerging industry is the sharing economy. What have they
- 37:10Speaker 1: said about this? So, yes, data matching is coming in
- 37:14Speaker 1: hot here too, and there is a new statutory obligation
- 37:18Speaker 1: on sharing economy platforms to provide information on how many
- 37:23Speaker 1: sharing economy participants there are from the first of July
- 37:26Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, so if you're confused, Examples quoted by
- 37:30Speaker 1: the ATO include services lack ride sourcing, transporting passages for.
- 37:36Speaker 3: Affair i e.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Buber drivers, renting out a room or house for accommodation,
- 37:41Speaker 1: so airbnb hosts are the obvious example. Here. The atier
- 37:45Speaker 1: is believed to be particularly concerned about taxpayers claiming the
- 37:49Speaker 1: full CGT so Capital Gains Tax main residence exemption when
- 37:55Speaker 1: part of their main residence has been rented out through Airbnb,
- 37:59Speaker 1: and the law prevail. It's a full CGT exemption where
- 38:02Speaker 1: part of the main residents has been used to earn income.
- 38:06Speaker 1: So they're like, oh, we see you. We're going to
- 38:08Speaker 1: crack down on this. So things like renting out parking spaces,
- 38:11Speaker 1: providing skilled services, so you might be like doing web design,
- 38:15Speaker 1: graphic design. You might be on like air tasker for example,
- 38:19Speaker 1: you might be supplying equipment or tools or completing odd
- 38:22Speaker 1: jobs errants, deliveries, or you could be renting out equipment
- 38:25Speaker 1: such as tools, musical instruments, sports equipment, or clothing. Oh why,
- 38:32Speaker 1: like Jessica Ricci does this right, don't throw her straight
- 38:36Speaker 1: onto the bus. But I see, yes, that is a
- 38:39Speaker 1: small business. And if you are renting out your wardrobe,
- 38:42Speaker 1: it would be a good idea to have a quick
- 38:43Speaker 1: chat with your accountant because you might be making bank
- 38:46Speaker 1: on that very nice dress that you're renting out. But
- 38:48Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that is a business
- 38:50Speaker 1: and they are going to want to see whether that
- 38:53Speaker 1: is taxable or not. Wow, talk to your accountant, my friend,
- 38:57Speaker 1: talk to your accountant. I think this is a really
- 38:59Speaker 1: good place to have a little break and absorbit all
- 39:03Speaker 1: and come back in two seconds.
- 39:05Speaker 3: See you on the flip side, guys.
- 39:06Speaker 1: Bye, okay, So now we're onto some tips, if you
- 39:15Speaker 1: don't mind, I've got so many.
- 39:17Speaker 3: Tax tip.
- 39:18Speaker 1: Don't be fraudulent is my number one. That's the number one. Yeah. Yeah,
- 39:22Speaker 1: it's actually a very good tip in life. It's really good.
- 39:25Speaker 1: I mean it got me in a little bit of
- 39:26Speaker 1: hot water a couple of weeks ago on TikTok where
- 39:29Speaker 1: I said, oh, this could potentially be fraud when I
- 39:32Speaker 1: said something about people earning quantos points on particular credit
- 39:37Speaker 1: card transactions. You know what happened, terms and conditions got updated.
- 39:41Speaker 1: You can no longer do that feels good to be right.
- 39:43Speaker 1: Sometimes you're gonna lie. It's not gonna I was like
- 39:47Speaker 1: I told you so bed okay, a little bit spicy.
- 39:51Speaker 3: Moving on though, What was your question, my friend?
- 39:53Speaker 1: So? What kind of things will help us make this
- 39:55Speaker 1: whole process a lot smoother. Remain calm, Remain calm. Come
- 40:00Speaker 1: so often getting your tax refund back, it kind of
- 40:03Speaker 1: gets held up because people are making really basic mistakes
- 40:07Speaker 1: that could be avoided. So like if your name or
- 40:10Speaker 1: address has changed, Please make sure you update your ATO
- 40:13Speaker 1: info before lodging your return, because if you lodge a
- 40:16Speaker 1: return under different details, even by accident, beck, the ato
- 40:20Speaker 1: is data matching technology won't be able to match it
- 40:23Speaker 1: to your tax file number, and then it will have
- 40:24Speaker 1: to go through a longer, lengthy, unmanual process.
- 40:27Speaker 3: Not cool.
- 40:28Speaker 1: Make sure that your bank details are correct. So all
- 40:31Speaker 1: tax refunds are now done by direct deposits, so gone
- 40:34Speaker 1: to the days where you actually received like a little
- 40:36Speaker 1: check in the mail. You need to make sure that
- 40:38Speaker 1: your bank details on your return are correct. Maybe you've
- 40:41Speaker 1: changed banks recently and that account is empty. You don't
- 40:44Speaker 1: want to not get your money. Beck one out of
- 40:46Speaker 1: ten cannot recommend not being paid you spell check, so
- 40:50Speaker 1: if you've added an extra letter or accidentally spelled something
- 40:53Speaker 1: wrong in a key field, it's going to delay your
- 40:55Speaker 1: return significantly because the ATO has to go through and
- 40:58Speaker 1: manually match your detail. And as you can imagine, this
- 41:01Speaker 1: actually happens a lot. So there are time delays. They're
- 41:05Speaker 1: really substantial, and you might be a little bit frustrated,
- 41:07Speaker 1: But my friend, that is your fault. Ah. We triple
- 41:10Speaker 1: check things in this house. Make sure that you claim
- 41:12Speaker 1: all your income as well, including as we mentioned before,
- 41:16Speaker 1: those like three Uber shifts that you did last October
- 41:18Speaker 1: or that casual shift that you do at a cafe
- 41:20Speaker 1: on the weekends in addition to.
- 41:22Speaker 3: Your full time job.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Not claiming income is something that the ATO has been
- 41:26Speaker 1: cracking down hard on for the last few years, especially
- 41:29Speaker 1: with the rise of like the gig economy, so like
- 41:32Speaker 1: stuff like Uber and AIRBB and social media influencers and
- 41:35Speaker 1: stuff like that. Like the social media influencer crackdown was
- 41:38Speaker 1: like maybe four or five years ago, and I remember
- 41:40Speaker 1: that went wild because, as you guys know, I used
- 41:43Speaker 1: to be a financial advisor and the amount of clients
- 41:46Speaker 1: I had that were influencers, Like, let's be honest, that
- 41:48Speaker 1: was my bread and butter. The amount of people that
- 41:51Speaker 1: got audited that year was unfounded. Sure like it wasn't
- 41:55Speaker 1: unjust at all, but they were like, hey, you probably
- 41:58Speaker 1: should be paying tax on these gifts.
- 42:00Speaker 3: And that's why things have changed a little bit in
- 42:02Speaker 3: the last few years.
- 42:03Speaker 1: See for good reason, for very good reason, because you
- 42:06Speaker 1: shouldn't just be getting free stuff and just completely getting
- 42:09Speaker 1: away with it, especially if it's your job. Like, if
- 42:12Speaker 1: you get a gift, that's very different than being given
- 42:15Speaker 1: a product to promote. Right, I don't actually use an accountant,
- 42:19Speaker 1: stunning would you suggest that I do?
- 42:23Speaker 3: It's totally up to you.
- 42:25Speaker 1: So from my perspective, as I said before, if you're
- 42:29Speaker 1: just a salaried payg employee, I think you can probably
- 42:33Speaker 1: wrap your head around the my tax portal, Like it
- 42:36Speaker 1: is not too hard. Beck, I'm assuming you've been doing
- 42:38Speaker 1: it yourself for the past few years and it's not
- 42:41Speaker 1: something where grab a cup of tea, sit down, Like,
- 42:45Speaker 1: don't just try and rush through it. You know what,
- 42:47Speaker 1: have a wine if you're going to have a wine,
- 42:48Speaker 1: triple check, Like, just make sure all those details are
- 42:52Speaker 1: absolutely correct, and you're not a little bit wine happy.
- 42:54Speaker 1: Maybe let's cap it one glass of wine or like
- 42:57Speaker 1: one per hour. It's like driving, like if you're over
- 43:00Speaker 1: the limit, you probably shouldn't be doing your tax. But
- 43:02Speaker 1: there's a reason more than seventy five percent of Australians
- 43:05Speaker 1: use a tax agent, and that's because tax is not
- 43:08Speaker 1: that simple and it can feel really overwhelming. The tax
- 43:11Speaker 1: portal over the last few years, though, has really upped
- 43:14Speaker 1: its ante. A lot of it is pre filled, a
- 43:17Speaker 1: lot of it is automatic. They already have your details,
- 43:19Speaker 1: they have your tax phile number, they have all of
- 43:21Speaker 1: the information that your employer put into the tax portal.
- 43:25Speaker 1: They have everything right, so it's actually much easier than
- 43:28Speaker 1: it used to be. And obviously if you don't know
- 43:31Speaker 1: exactly what you can claim, it might be worth talking
- 43:34Speaker 1: to an accountant because you might be missing out on
- 43:36Speaker 1: some pretty sick returns. But if you get your return wrong,
- 43:40Speaker 1: you could also be in for some hefty fines. So honestly,
- 43:43Speaker 1: it does pack to talk to someone if you're worried
- 43:45Speaker 1: about it. But more often than not, I find, especially
- 43:49Speaker 1: having had what now five years experience with the Sheese
- 43:52Speaker 1: on the Money community. I think that a lot of
- 43:55Speaker 1: people if you sit down and have a good look
- 43:57Speaker 1: at it, you can pretty much do it yourself. The
- 44:01Speaker 1: only way to get definitive tax return advice, though, is
- 44:04Speaker 1: from a registered professional. So in an experienced accountant, they're
- 44:07Speaker 1: always going to be able to highlight to you what
- 44:09Speaker 1: you can and you can't claim on and what you
- 44:11Speaker 1: can be doing in the next financial year to really
- 44:13Speaker 1: ensure that you're maximizing the amount that you can claim back.
- 44:16Speaker 1: A good accountant is obviously an investment that can be
- 44:19Speaker 1: worth making, and you'll often find that they'll highlight things
- 44:22Speaker 1: that maybe you didn't know you could claim. And the
- 44:24Speaker 1: best part is that seeing an accountant is a tax
- 44:26Speaker 1: deductible cost to You could also just call the ATO
- 44:30Speaker 1: and ask questions. You could ask questions in our Facebook
- 44:33Speaker 1: group about what you're doing and how other people are
- 44:35Speaker 1: claiming it. The ATO website is a really, really good resource,
- 44:39Speaker 1: and it's in very simple terms like type into the
- 44:42Speaker 1: ATO search bar, can I claim x y z? Or
- 44:45Speaker 1: how do I claim xyz? And there will be tutorials
- 44:48Speaker 1: on it, Like I promise these things. They feel overwhelming,
- 44:52Speaker 1: but if you don't want to spend the money, on
- 44:54Speaker 1: an accountant, like my friend, you're probably smart enough to
- 44:56Speaker 1: do it yourself. Like genuinely, I think it's worth a
- 44:58Speaker 1: crack like you could probably chime in here.
- 45:01Speaker 3: Do you find it challenging?
- 45:03Speaker 1: I don't, but now knowing what I know about, for example,
- 45:08Speaker 1: not being able to just claim the three hundred dollars
- 45:11Speaker 1: laundry thing without any tax receipts, that makes it a
- 45:15Speaker 1: little bit more difficult. I know how to use it.
- 45:17Speaker 1: That's called the my tax portal, isn't it. Yeah, it
- 45:19Speaker 1: is on the MyGov website. It's not too hard to
- 45:23Speaker 1: wrap your head around. And if it feels overwhelming, it's
- 45:25Speaker 1: probably because you've never done it before, and everything that
- 45:27Speaker 1: we've never done before can feel really overwhelming. I would
- 45:31Speaker 1: then also just say look if it's feeling a bit
- 45:33Speaker 1: more complicated, like let's look at me. For example, Like
- 45:37Speaker 1: you guys know, I have shees on the Money. I
- 45:39Speaker 1: own a mortgage broking company's Ella money. I know, do
- 45:42Speaker 1: a million other things which I actually have another business
- 45:45Speaker 1: that you know. If you see me on Instagram doing
- 45:47Speaker 1: speaking events, that's not through shees on the Money. That's
- 45:50Speaker 1: through another business. I own a property. My husband and
- 45:53Speaker 1: I have recently bought an investment property. I do see
- 45:56Speaker 1: an accountant because my tax affairs are a bit more
- 45:59Speaker 1: complicated than the average bears now and I'm so grateful
- 46:02Speaker 1: to be in that position. And my accountant's not that
- 46:04Speaker 1: grateful to be in that position. He's just always like, Victoria,
- 46:06Speaker 1: what have you done this year? Like, ah, I'm so
- 46:09Speaker 1: sick of dealing with you. By the way, love you, Louis.
- 46:11Speaker 1: Please keep listening to my podcast. I really appreciate it.
- 46:14Speaker 1: But for people like me, seeing an accountant just makes
- 46:17Speaker 1: sense because my tax affairs are complicated and there's a
- 46:20Speaker 1: few businesses in the mix, and there's a few different things.
- 46:22Speaker 1: But as I said, if you're just a salary payg
- 46:25Speaker 1: employer with like one stream of income, it's usually pretty
- 46:28Speaker 1: easy to work out. And if you've been keeping track
- 46:31Speaker 1: of your expenses over the year and like taking photos
- 46:34Speaker 1: of things, or maybe you still operate on the shoebox method,
- 46:37Speaker 1: you're chucking it in a shoe box under your bed,
- 46:39Speaker 1: like it can be quite simple. Don't feel like it's
- 46:43Speaker 1: really overwhelming. And I mean, accountants, I adore you. I
- 46:46Speaker 1: think you do a really, really good job, but at
- 46:49Speaker 1: this point in time, I also think it's really worth
- 46:52Speaker 1: empowering people to give it a crack themselves, because one
- 46:55Speaker 1: thing that I don't think people understand about accountants is
- 46:58Speaker 1: as much as they are fantastic and they are the professionals,
- 47:01Speaker 1: and they are going to give you really good advice.
- 47:03Speaker 1: At the end of the day, Beck, you're the one
- 47:06Speaker 1: that signs your tax return. So if you still are
- 47:09Speaker 1: claiming something that you maybe shouldn't be claiming just because
- 47:12Speaker 1: you told your accountant that you did it, they're going
- 47:15Speaker 1: to go is everything true and correct? Beck, you sign this,
- 47:19Speaker 1: It's not on them. If the ATO comes back and says, hey, Beck,
- 47:22Speaker 1: we need to audit, you know it's not going to
- 47:24Speaker 1: get out.
- 47:25Speaker 3: Of jail free card.
- 47:26Speaker 1: Because you've used an accountant, everything that you say and
- 47:29Speaker 1: do can and will be used against you individually, if
- 47:32Speaker 1: that makes sense. So just by using an accountant doesn't
- 47:35Speaker 1: take the responsibility away. And I think that that's a
- 47:38Speaker 1: very big misconception where you assume, Okay, well I'm not
- 47:42Speaker 1: that good at it and I do want to claim
- 47:43Speaker 1: all those naughty things. I'm going to go to the
- 47:45Speaker 1: accountant and say I did do those things. At the
- 47:48Speaker 1: end of the day, you're the one signing off on it,
- 47:49Speaker 1: so if the ATO come back, it's on you. It's
- 47:52Speaker 1: not on your accountant, because they're going to turn around
- 47:54Speaker 1: and be like, well, everything that Beck told us, she
- 47:56Speaker 1: told us that was true and correct, and we just
- 47:58Speaker 1: processed it based on the information she provided us with. Yeah,
- 48:02Speaker 1: they've done what they needed to do. They're not a
- 48:04Speaker 1: safety blanket. They can be a safety blanket for like
- 48:07Speaker 1: getting good advice and making sure that oh can I
- 48:10Speaker 1: claim this?
- 48:11Speaker 3: You might go, oh, well, have you got the receipts?
- 48:13Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 48:13Speaker 1: I do, Oh of course you can back. It might
- 48:16Speaker 1: give you that peace of mind. But I think reminding
- 48:18Speaker 1: you that they're not the get out of jail free
- 48:21Speaker 1: card might be another reason why you go, you know what,
- 48:24Speaker 1: You're right, V. I'll just do it myself. And I mean,
- 48:26Speaker 1: at the end of the day, just downloading my tax
- 48:28Speaker 1: portal and putting all your information in and then not
- 48:31Speaker 1: hitting submit. You can go see an accountant after that.
- 48:33Speaker 1: Why don't you give it a crack, Give it a crack,
- 48:35Speaker 1: give it a crack, see what happens. If it is overwhelming,
- 48:38Speaker 1: then maybe go see someone. But if it isn't, you
- 48:42Speaker 1: tried your best. It worked out. Yeah, that's actually a
- 48:45Speaker 1: really really good way to kind of explain it. It's
- 48:47Speaker 1: not so overwhelming. Just give it a go. Just give
- 48:49Speaker 1: it a go, and if you're really overwhelmed, don't hit submit,
- 48:52Speaker 1: go talk to an accountant. Exactly right, So that's my
- 48:55Speaker 1: tax portal. Yeah, you don't need to download any fancy
- 48:58Speaker 1: software or anything and obvious. As I said before, the
- 49:01Speaker 1: ATO can basically pre fiell most information from your employer
- 49:05Speaker 1: and from banks and from government agencies and health funds
- 49:08Speaker 1: and third parties by late July. So that's also a
- 49:12Speaker 1: very common misconception that on the thirtieth of June everything
- 49:15Speaker 1: will be there. Now it was due on the thirtieth
- 49:17Speaker 1: of June, maybe it hasn't been processed or like input yet.
- 49:21Speaker 1: So usually I would recommend, if you're doing your own tax,
- 49:25Speaker 1: wait until closer to the end of July, because then
- 49:27Speaker 1: you have a lot more certainty that everything that you
- 49:30Speaker 1: need to process your tax is already pre filled, makes
- 49:33Speaker 1: your life easier, makes the process go a lot quicker.
- 49:36Speaker 1: The ATO use a whole heap of range of systems
- 49:38Speaker 1: and controls to protect your information. So it's all good
- 49:41Speaker 1: if you're you know, putting your tax pile number and
- 49:44Speaker 1: stuff in. Make sure you are going to the legit website.
- 49:47Speaker 1: There are a few websites right and I'm not going
- 49:49Speaker 1: to name names, but if you type in my tax portal,
- 49:53Speaker 1: double check please that it is the government website, because
- 49:56Speaker 1: there are a lot of companies that kind of levery
- 50:00Speaker 1: off that and call it like the my Tax log
- 50:02Speaker 1: in or something, and then they're actually a company that
- 50:06Speaker 1: do your tax return for you and they'll charge you
- 50:08Speaker 1: for that, and you just have clicked on the wrong link.
- 50:10Speaker 1: So just make sure it's the government one before we
- 50:12Speaker 1: go and try and doy. Obviously, it's available twenty four hours,
- 50:15Speaker 1: seven days a week, so if Saturday night at three
- 50:18Speaker 1: am you can't sleep in your wander do tax.
- 50:20Speaker 3: What a time to be alive.
- 50:22Speaker 1: You're going to get your refund faster as well, so
- 50:25Speaker 1: it's faster if it doesn't go through an accountant. Usually
- 50:28Speaker 1: you'll get it back within two weeks or fourteen business days.
- 50:32Speaker 1: You can then upload records that you keep in the
- 50:34Speaker 1: my Deductions tool to pre fill your tax return, which
- 50:38Speaker 1: is kind of sexy. Obviously, it's available for all individuals
- 50:41Speaker 1: and soul traders who want to lodge their own tax
- 50:43Speaker 1: return and you'll receive a very very nice lodgment receipt
- 50:48Speaker 1: by email to confirm that they have your lodgment once
- 50:51Speaker 1: it's in and you can kind of track.
- 50:52Speaker 3: It from there.
- 50:53Speaker 1: Awesome. I love that.
- 50:55Speaker 3: I think I love that too.
- 50:56Speaker 1: But I'm really over talking about tax and I'm pretty
- 50:59Speaker 1: sure you're overhearing about it. Yes, I am up to Pussy's.
- 51:03Speaker 3: Vo Gina, what with that? I think we're going to go, guys.
- 51:07Speaker 3: We'll see you on Friday.
- 51:08Speaker 1: Bye, guys.
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