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The Pace of Peace: Finding Calm in Body, Soul, and Home with Michelle Brumgard · Faithful Fitness With Coach Alex VanHouten

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Faithful Fitness Podcast for my Dad. Coach
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  Speaker 1: Alex Van Houghten helps you get stronger and mind, body
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  Speaker 1: and spirit. He believes that your body's a temple, so
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  Speaker 1: taking good care of it is an actual worship.
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  Speaker 2: I should know.
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  Speaker 1: I live with him every week. He brings truth from
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  Speaker 1: the Bible too of some science and stories that will
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  Speaker 1: set your heart on fire. May God bless you to
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  Speaker 1: become everything He made you to be, just one percent
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  Speaker 1: better every single day.
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  Speaker 3: Hey there, Coach Alex fan out in here Faithful Fitness Podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Our mission is to help you make the most out
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  Speaker 3: of the body God's given you. And today I need
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  Speaker 3: to ask you a question. Are you feeling overwhelmed or
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  Speaker 3: are you perfectly at peace? Did you know that Christ
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  Speaker 3: said he would leave us peace and that he came
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  Speaker 3: so he might have life abundantly not be overwhelmed. That's
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  Speaker 3: what we're going to be talking about in today's episode
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  Speaker 3: with Miss Broumguard. We're gonna be talking about the pace
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  Speaker 3: of peace and how we as Christians have access to
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  Speaker 3: a piece that the world doesn't have. But it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: take some discipline to get there.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you're ready. Let's dive in.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, guys. This is coach Alex van Houden on
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  Speaker 3: the Faithful Fitness podcast. Our mission is to help you
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  Speaker 3: to make the most out of the body God's given
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  Speaker 3: you and I'm joined by Miss Michelle Broumguard Happy Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Michelle, how are you doing today?
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing good. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: And thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 3: Michelle is the host of the Pace of Peace podcast.
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  Speaker 3: She's a health coach, she's mom of two. And before
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  Speaker 3: we get into the conversation we're going to have today
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  Speaker 3: about peace and in relationship to our health and fitness journey,
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  Speaker 3: I gotta ask, you have one that just graduated, and
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  Speaker 3: you've you've got one in the high school age. How's
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  Speaker 3: it feel to look at one of your children and say, Wow,
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  Speaker 3: I have an adult.
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  Speaker 4: It's a little surreal, to be honest, because I home
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  Speaker 4: educated her since second grade, and my son has always
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  Speaker 4: been home educated. And as she graduated early learning to
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  Speaker 4: navigate an adult in your house, it's like starting all over.
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  Speaker 4: And at the same time, I look at her continually,
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  Speaker 4: both of our kids, because our oldest is Leah, our daughter,
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  Speaker 4: she's almost nineteen, and then we have our son who
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  Speaker 4: is almost fifteen, so he's a freshman. But I look
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  Speaker 4: at them and I'm like, man, the faithfulness of God
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  Speaker 4: and his mercy is evident on display through both of them.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, what a what a huge blessing.
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  Speaker 3: My boys are ten and six, and so I often
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  Speaker 3: pray about the men they're becoming, But that man only
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  Speaker 3: exists in the vision of their father. There's still there's
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  Speaker 3: still you know, reffling to each other feathers and fighting
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  Speaker 3: swords in the in the hallway and giving their mam
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  Speaker 3: a hard time sometimes and breaking arms and that sort
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  Speaker 3: of thing. So it's it's so wild to think about
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  Speaker 3: them as adults someday. But I also know that this
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  Speaker 3: time passes so quickly. Uh, and we try to make
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  Speaker 3: the most out of out of every moment. Sounds like
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  Speaker 3: you did the same through home education.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been it's been wild to this process. Like
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  Speaker 4: I still like, right now she's getting groceries for me.
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  Speaker 2: What, like you've arrived, okay, yes, And she's like, I.
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  Speaker 4: Thought I was just getting a couple of groceries. This
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  Speaker 4: is like whole grocery hall, mom, And I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it'll be good practice for you though, I mean, she's
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  Speaker 4: got a credit card that's ours, So it's not like
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  Speaker 4: she's paying the bill.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, right, But isn't that Isn't that the truth? Though?
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  Speaker 3: Like you go to the store to get a few
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  Speaker 3: things and then there's all this other stuff like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: we need that too, and I mean, either I get
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  Speaker 3: it now or have to come back later.
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  Speaker 2: Which is such a drag.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to adulting, Leah, No, I feel that.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so glad that that we get the opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: have this conversation today because one of your one of
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  Speaker 3: your core ministry positions and one of the core things
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  Speaker 3: that you want to get out in the world. It's
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  Speaker 3: the subject of the book you have coming out in January,
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  Speaker 3: it's the subject of your podcast, and that is the
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  Speaker 3: pace of peace. And I've got to tell you, in
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  Speaker 3: the health world, there's not a lot of people talking
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  Speaker 3: about peace.
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  Speaker 2: So first first I have to ask Michelle.
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  Speaker 3: How did peace as a topic of importance for health
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  Speaker 3: and fitness and for your spiritual practice and for your household.
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  Speaker 3: How did peace become something so important and powerful for
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  Speaker 3: you that that's going to I mean, you wrote about
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  Speaker 3: it and you're committed to publishing a podcast weekly on
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  Speaker 3: the subject. How did that become a thing for you?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I set out maybe maybe three years ago to
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  Speaker 4: write a book on something completely different, okay, And the
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  Speaker 4: writing coach I work with says, you're the first product
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  Speaker 4: of your book. You're the first person to be you know,
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  Speaker 4: transformed in the writing of your book. And I am
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  Speaker 4: an avid journaler. I love to journal, and in doing
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  Speaker 4: some research for what I thought I was going to
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  Speaker 4: write about, I just felt in the intimacy of prayer.
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  Speaker 4: It just in reviewing looking for something else, I suddenly
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  Speaker 4: noticed this theme throughout my journals of because that's where
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  Speaker 4: I leave like the vulnerable things right, like the moms.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying guys don't do this, but there's so
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  Speaker 4: many burdens we carry as moms, specifically that we never
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  Speaker 4: tell anybody, and the journal is the one place that
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  Speaker 4: I pour it out. And I noticed this theme of like, Wow,
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  Speaker 4: how many years have I I've been praying for peace? Wow,
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  Speaker 4: whether it was peace in my body because I struggled
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  Speaker 4: with my body for many years, or if it was
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  Speaker 4: peace in my marriage because my husband and I have
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  Speaker 4: a rough beginning to our marriage. We're soon approaching twenty years.
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  Speaker 4: But those first couple of years were a little little
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  Speaker 4: tense or peace in between kids, like when you've got
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  Speaker 4: kids home all day, like nothing is going to test
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  Speaker 4: your piece more than two kids and trying. Like my
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  Speaker 4: my dear daughter, she knows I'll talk about this, but
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  Speaker 4: man teaching her math when it came easy to me
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  Speaker 4: and not to her created a lot of learning opportunities
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  Speaker 4: for me to practice patients but also to get at peace.
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  Speaker 4: And unfortunately I didn't really learn it a whole lot
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  Speaker 4: in the process of teaching her. It was it's more
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  Speaker 4: of like an after thing that my son's getting the fruit.
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  Speaker 2: Our poor oldests that we had to cut our teeth on.
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  Speaker 2: But having a.
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  Speaker 4: Girl and a boy, I feel like I've too oldest
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  Speaker 4: in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's so different. I bet yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But ultimately my passion from peace came from that revelation
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  Speaker 4: of like, wait, this is something I've prayed for my
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  Speaker 4: entire life and I just didn't recognize it. And then
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  Speaker 4: I saw this theme of how God has been teaching
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  Speaker 4: me peace all along. I just didn't recognize it. But
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  Speaker 4: I've always seen Jesus as my best friend. Holy spirit
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  Speaker 4: is the ultimate like guidance, counselor and whisper in my ear,
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  Speaker 4: and then the Father being the one who never shames me,
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  Speaker 4: guilts me, and loves me unconditionally. And with that revelation
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  Speaker 4: of desiring peace, I'm like, wait, my best friend has
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  Speaker 4: been peace all along, and it's just been this. It
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  Speaker 4: was revelatory and then immediately this passion like just came
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  Speaker 4: came forward of like I want the whole world to
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  Speaker 4: know that this journey of life I've been on seeking
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  Speaker 4: peace that I now have clarity on, Like that's what
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  Speaker 4: I was seeking for. Yeah, but that peace is only
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  Speaker 4: found in Christ.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 3: Amen, there's a there are very very powerful passage in
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  Speaker 3: the Gospels where Christ. I believe it's in John when
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  Speaker 3: he says to his disciples my peace. I give to
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  Speaker 3: you my peace I leave with you. I don't give
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  Speaker 3: as the world gives. And he talks about a peace
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  Speaker 3: that surpasses understanding. And so I think that I think
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  Speaker 3: it's worthwhile for this conversation for us to kind of
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  Speaker 3: say what peace is not and then if we if
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  Speaker 3: we can try to try to wrap our heads around
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  Speaker 3: what peace actually is. Because when I say a peaceful household,
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  Speaker 3: I think of I think of when my children go
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  Speaker 3: to stay with the gig and my wife and I
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  Speaker 3: have a few moments of peace and quiet, right and
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  Speaker 3: and like, that's not that's not what we're talking about here,
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  Speaker 3: because there is calm, there is quiet, there is solitude,
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  Speaker 3: there is there is restfulness that that exists in pockets
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  Speaker 3: in our life. But if I'm a mom or a dad,
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  Speaker 3: and and I'm I'm doing things in my career, things
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  Speaker 3: in business, I might be seeking for for something that's
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  Speaker 3: not quite peace from.
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  Speaker 2: A scriptural perspective.
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  Speaker 3: So so in your mind, what is peace not? What
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  Speaker 3: is this thing you were praying for that you thought
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  Speaker 3: you were asking for and and weren't getting maybe or
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  Speaker 3: or maybe getting in little glimpses and whatnot. And in
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  Speaker 3: your understanding, and I imagine it's it's something you unpacked.
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  Speaker 3: And in writing your book, that's that's what a good
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  Speaker 3: book does, is you kind of wrestle through with this
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  Speaker 3: this thing that you learned that you want other people
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  Speaker 3: to be able to grab onto and maybe shorten the
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  Speaker 3: learning curve for everybody else too.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I wrote my book and the Faithful Fitness
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  Speaker 2: devotional And and what did you learn that peace is not? What?
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  Speaker 2: What is peace.
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  Speaker 4: M Well, I would say the peace that I was
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  Speaker 4: seeking that I as far as like felt in my body.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't, at least for me my experience
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  Speaker 4: a lot of times is and it's still true, like
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  Speaker 4: for any of your listeners. Don't think like I've magically
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  Speaker 4: arrived that I'm this super peaceful woman and I never
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  Speaker 4: lose my pool or I never feel anxious or depressed.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's not truth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, same here.
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  Speaker 4: So just to be clear, however, God's given me practices,
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  Speaker 4: He's brought me revelation that I quickly reset and I
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  Speaker 4: realized the piece I was seeking in full transparency, was
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  Speaker 4: peace that early on in my teens in early twenties
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  Speaker 4: that I hoped a pill would give me. You know,
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  Speaker 4: and there's nothing wrong with anti anxiety medicine or anti
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  Speaker 4: depression medicine, but I was hoping to have peace being
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  Speaker 4: a quick fix. Yes, Like if I get this solution,
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  Speaker 4: I'll have peace. If I get to this weight in
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  Speaker 4: my body, I'll have peace, you know, if I accomplish
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  Speaker 4: this fitness goal, I'll have peace. Or if this is
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  Speaker 4: a real, very real one. I actually talk about it
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  Speaker 4: in my book at one point, if my kids would
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  Speaker 4: just take a nap. At the same time, I could
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  Speaker 4: have some peace, no joke, right, And a lot of
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  Speaker 4: that has to do with nervous system regulation. That's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of it because I grew up experiencing some trauma
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  Speaker 4: throughout my early life, and I realize a lot of
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  Speaker 4: the desire for peace had to do with nervous system regulation. However,
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  Speaker 4: that's still of the world. Like when I am losing
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  Speaker 4: my peace, I've lost sight of Christ. Because when I've
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  Speaker 4: realized I've experienced the supernatural, unexplainable. Piece is when I've
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  Speaker 4: gotten a phone call that should destroy my day and
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  Speaker 4: I'm able to stand firm and to breathe, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: able to speak with calm and confidence and in the moment,
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  Speaker 4: able to renew my mind on what is true. Or
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  Speaker 4: in the midst of seeing kids fight and my flash,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we talk about our weak side, like I
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  Speaker 4: want to grab a hold of them, right, or you know,
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  Speaker 4: say like straighten up, stop being so mean to each other,
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  Speaker 4: like come on and be adults.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever it is peace that's found in Christ that surpasses
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  Speaker 4: understanding is being able to look at them be quiet.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, that's some wisdom as you your kids
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  Speaker 4: get older sometimes like they're learning how conflict management. But
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  Speaker 4: a piece that surpasses understanding is looking at that someone
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  Speaker 4: having a disagreement and just sitting back and praying and
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  Speaker 4: not letting someone else's emotion or anger or something impact mine.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmm, because I'm able to go vertical in that
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  Speaker 4: moment and be like.
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  Speaker 2: I.
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  Speaker 4: You'll you've if you've listened to my podcast Pauls and
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  Speaker 4: Pray episodes are my favorite, where I just invite people
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  Speaker 4: to pause and to pray and just to be in
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  Speaker 4: His presence. Like biblical piece is that chaos can be
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  Speaker 4: swirling around you and you seek the one who is peace,
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  Speaker 4: and you stay solid, you stay unshaken. You don't let
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  Speaker 4: the things of the world sway what you're about to
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  Speaker 4: say or how you react. You're a first responder instead
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  Speaker 4: of a reactor. As I have a mentor once.
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  Speaker 3: Say yeah I could, I could see that it's actually
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  Speaker 3: as you were speaking. Gives me this, this picture of
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  Speaker 3: Christ throughout the Gospels where people are constantly astounded and
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  Speaker 3: astonished and amazed by by him because there's there's obviously
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  Speaker 3: Jesus was on a different playing field wisdom wise, knowledge wise,
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  Speaker 3: and his ability to teach, and is that his ability
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  Speaker 3: to to just be as a presence in the world.
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  Speaker 2: He was on a different playing field.
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  Speaker 3: But if you if you read the Gospels and in
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  Speaker 3: the same way you might read I don't know the
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  Speaker 3: Lord of the Rings with Jera or Tolkien, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if you appreciate the Lord of the Rings. Not
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  Speaker 3: that they're in the they're not the same thing. One's
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  Speaker 3: literature and one one's actual scripture.
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  Speaker 2: But but but if.
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  Speaker 3: You if you read scripture and you try to smell
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  Speaker 3: the sea salt air while Jesus is walking beside Galilee,
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  Speaker 3: and you picture the disciples and what they have to say,
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  Speaker 3: and how they're kind of missing things and stuff, you
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  Speaker 3: can easily imagine that Jesus is the kind of man
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  Speaker 3: that when he walks into a room, everybody notices, and
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  Speaker 3: it was more peaceful after he walked into the room
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  Speaker 3: than it was when he wasn't there. And and so there's
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  Speaker 3: this there's this presence of peace that constantly follows him
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  Speaker 3: throughout the Gospel. In fact, the Bible calls him the
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  Speaker 3: Prince of Peace. And so that's that's a that's not
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  Speaker 3: just a trade of his it's it's it's a it's
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  Speaker 3: a mode of.
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  Speaker 2: Being for him.
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  Speaker 3: And and understanding that about about Jesus, you you also
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  Speaker 3: have to kind of appreciate what he was walking through.
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  Speaker 3: You know, at any given time he had he had
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  Speaker 3: his his twelve disciples arguing about who's going to be
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  Speaker 3: the greatest or you know, they have all these questions.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, you have two kids. I have two
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  Speaker 2: kids as well. Sometimes I experience in children's ministry where I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Responsible for forty kids, and and I'm always getting pecked
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  Speaker 3: on the arm, like mister Alex, mister Alex, mister Alex,
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  Speaker 3: mister Alex, and and so and so there's the there's
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  Speaker 3: these times where I'm separated in a bunch of different
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  Speaker 3: directions keeping the peace, making sure, you know, little Susie
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  Speaker 3: shares her toys with little Jimmy, and and and the
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  Speaker 3: fourth graders aren't yelling at the first graders for being
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  Speaker 3: bad at kickball and that sort of thing, and and
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  Speaker 3: in all of these things, though, the chaos that I
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  Speaker 3: experience in that setting is not not even quite on
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  Speaker 3: the same level as what Jesus was experiencing with the
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  Speaker 3: Roman guards keeping the Jews subjugated and the religious leaders
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  Speaker 3: spreading lies about him, and then you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: somebody's always pecking him on the show, Hey.
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  Speaker 2: Will you heal my friend? Hey, I'm sick? Will you
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  Speaker 2: cast this demon on my child?
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  Speaker 3: And and in all those moments, what I believe about
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  Speaker 3: Christ is that he maintained.
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  Speaker 2: His peace throughout the Gospel and was well. He was
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  Speaker 2: perfect in that. I'm not perfect in that, but he
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  Speaker 2: was perfect in that.
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  Speaker 3: And definitely doesn't mean everything was always calm around him exactly,
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  Speaker 3: but he was never overwhelmed by what was happening all
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  Speaker 3: around him. And I want to talk about this idea
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  Speaker 3: of overwhelm. You just you just out a podcast I
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  Speaker 3: think last week on I don't think it's overcoming overwhelm.
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  Speaker 3: It's something like when you are overwhelmed, here's four simple
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  Speaker 3: steps to address this overwhelm.
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  Speaker 2: And you you.
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  Speaker 3: You based it on Philippians four eight. Whatsoever things are pure,
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  Speaker 3: whatsoever things are true depends on the translation you like
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  Speaker 3: to like to speak about. But but, and I would
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  Speaker 3: point anybody listening to this podcast, I would point them
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  Speaker 3: to your podcast. Your podcast is primarily toward women, and
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  Speaker 3: the it always makes me feel weird by the way,
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  Speaker 3: like this podcast is for women. Well, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: listen to about three episodes so I understand what you're
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  Speaker 3: doing in the world.
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  Speaker 2: They're so good though, they're so so useful, so helpful.
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  Speaker 3: You you led ladies through an exercise of how to
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  Speaker 3: prayer fully prioritize that chaotic list of things that are
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  Speaker 3: going on in your mind, and that is that is well,
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  Speaker 3: it's very practical, it's very biblical, and it's very useful.
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  Speaker 3: So I was going to ask you, when you think
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  Speaker 3: of peace in my mind, that the dark backside of
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  Speaker 3: that is overwhelmed, Like in my mind, these are these
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  Speaker 3: are contrasting antonyms or opposites. If you ask my little
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  Speaker 3: little six year old, what's the opposite of short, he'd
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  Speaker 3: say tall. If you ask him what the opposite of
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  Speaker 3: black is, he'd say white. If I had to say
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  Speaker 3: what the opposite of pieces, I would say it's overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 2: That might be too simple, but it's a thing for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Can you tell me more about overwhelm that you've experienced
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  Speaker 3: as a as a mom and that you when you
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  Speaker 3: prayerfully pursue peace. What kind of overwhelm?
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  Speaker 2: How do you define that?
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  Speaker 3: What kind of overwhelming you helping ladies overcome in your
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: podcast work.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, as far as a mom over is definitely the
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  Speaker 4: never ending to do list, which is why I just
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  Speaker 4: recorded that podcast last week because I'm like, it's not
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: going to stop. The to do list is continually and
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: I know for a lot of moms. The other key
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: place of overwhelm is the famous question what's for dinner?
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Let's take it a step further. What's for dinner? That
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: comes for a lot of moms is well, what should
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I eat? What should I give my kids to eat?
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: What can we afford?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Is that enough? Is that too much? Well? Do I
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: force them? Or do I not force them? Like, there
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: is a list that reels through our minds around that
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: one question of what's for dinner? And it quickly can
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: spiral into overwhelm, very quickly in a matter of minutes,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: especially if you haven't planned, which is why I like
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: to teach simple, practical things that I've learned to prioritize
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: what's the most important, keeping it simple. But overwhelmed can
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: also be a schedule. Maybe your kids have this isn't me.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I really guarded early on that my kids were not overscheduled.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Something I'm pretty passionate about But I'm not going to
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: judge another parent on their choices to parent ever, because
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know your kids right like you, God entrusted
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: those kids to you, so I believe God's giving you
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: the wisdom and discernment and how to parent those kids. However,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: for us, we typically don't like to have a lot
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: in our schedule. But however, overwhelmed can look like, oh
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: my goodness, I have to run a kid here, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: then I've got to run a kid there, and.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Do they have this?
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Do they have that? So overwhelmed can look like I
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: really would like eight hours of sleep, right, Like that
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: can be overwhelmed. Yeah, I can go on and one
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  Speaker 4: about overwhelm and how it comes for the mom because
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: there's also the overwhelm, you know. With the pace of piece,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: I'm focusing on body, soul, and home because we face overwhelmed.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: There's a barrage of messages coming against us as women
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: and men that can be overwhelming, but also our soul,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: which is our mind, will and emotions. But we're also
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: responsible for our home. Just listing those three things feels overwhelming.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me right? Yeah?
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: So yeah, But for me, like I just found this
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: continual overwhelm about how to care for my body and
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: then also how to care for my kids in a
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: way that is honoring to God because one of my
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: especially in more recent years in this fitness health world,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: is Lord, help me not to glorify you and not
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: my self.
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  Speaker 2: Right, mm hmm.
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  Speaker 4: So that's a tension point of overwhelm of life, just
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: all the choices, right, there's so much information in there
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: of like what is wrong, what is right? And ultimately
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: it comes back to like what has the Lord told me?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, and what's in the word well said? And
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: did that answer your question? Yeah? Well, you know.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: It's talking about overwhelm, is overwhelming all by a self?
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Because so there's there's actually a male female difference here
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: and this is this is wrapped up in the neuroscience.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: You might appreciate knowing this or you might already know it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: And that is that the male corpus colosum, that's the
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: that's the part of the brain that unites the two hemispheres,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: the one that's exposed a language and the other one
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: that's more imagistic in it's in its language. Uh, the
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: male corpus colosum is not very dense. The two parts
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: of my brain don't talk to each other as well
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: as the female corpus close. I'm on average, right, the
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: female corpus close very dense. That means there's a lot
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: of highways, a lot of a lot of connection between
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: both sides of the brain. And so men and women
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: both feel overwhelmed, but men generally have a hard time
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: articulating what's overwhelming to them, whereas women. If you say,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: what's got you so overwhelmed? The list never stops, It's
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: gonna it's just gonna keep going, like what do you
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: gotta do today?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Oh? What? Like it's a better question, what don't I
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: have to do?
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: That would probably be a shorter list because because in
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: the in the female brain, and I'm not saying every
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: woman's like this personality wise, but just.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: In the structural way that our brains work.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: In the female brain, it's it's a lot easier to
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: generate a list of things that are overwhelming to you
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: without even trying. And that sucker follows you around everywhere.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: And you actually spoke about this on on your podcast.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: You said, Hey, I want to invite you to sit
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: down and write down all the stuff that just for
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: these next couple minutes. I want you to write down
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: all all the stuff that you feel like you have
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: to get done.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Right, and that's very powerful.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: And then you invited and this I think this is
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: this is a biblical idea. You based it on Philippians
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: for it, but I also think it Christ speaks to
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: this on the Sermon on the Mount, you invited your
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: your listeners to prayerfully look at the list and to
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: ask God to show them the three most important things,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: the three things that I'm going to focus on today
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: because all this stuff, sure it's important, needs to get done. Yep,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Like that's why it's on your brain. You're not you're
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: not saying it's not important. You are saying you're one
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: person with only so much energy, so much mental will power.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: You don't even know some of the things that are
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: going to happen to you today. So so with that
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: in mind, that humble perspective, that peaceful perspective in mind,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: what are those three things that that you can focus
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: on and that and that you can actually affect today
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: and the other stuff. It's not that it's not important,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: it just might not get done today.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: And that is okay. Jesus said it this way. Seek ye.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: First, the Kingdom of God and his righteousness and all
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: of these things he's talking about, what we're going to eat,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: and what we're gonna wear, and and all the other
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: stuff we worry about. All these things will be added
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: to you because there's the there's the one thing I
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: need to do today is walk in lockstep with my
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: father and then and then all the other stuff that
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I feel like are important to me. I can just say, Hey, God,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: is this really important to your heart right now? Is
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: this something we really need.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: To get done?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: If if not, then I'm just happy to be next
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: to you. That's for me. That's that I believe that's
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: the core of peace. And you like to say something
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: very specific, I'll let you speak to it. But but
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: peace isn't necessarily a feeling. What is What is peace?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: To you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the mission of everything I'm doing right now
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: because I was seeking the emotion. So I like to
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: say that peace isn't only the emotion we desire or
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: the feeling we desire. Ultimately, it's the person we follow,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: who is Christ himself or the Prince of peace, as
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: you mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: Amen. Amen.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: And what assurance, by the way, what assurance if I'm
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: walking with Christ this big list of things that needs
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: to get done in my mind. It's not like it's
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: not going to happen. But ugh, it's not overwhelming anymore.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: That's the thing, right, it's not overwhelming anymore. You use
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: the example of laundry, and you said you don't like
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: using this example because for many people, laundry is overwhelming,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: but for you.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: It's what did you say, it's I like doing laundry.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I like doing laundry. Yeah.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I like the systematic aspect of it and the sorting,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: and I find it actually calming. And I know that's
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: really uncommon among women. I learned that early on.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well for many women.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: And I don't want to speak for all women here,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: but I know for my wife, for instance, if I
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: have a list of things I need to be up
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: to in laundry feels like extra, and there's other stuff
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I feel like I need to be up to, then
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: then it does feel stressful. It's like I'm doing this
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: thing that's keeping me from doing the things.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: That really matter.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: But this is the Proverbs thirty one thing, like, who
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: can find a virtuous woman? Her value is beyond rubies?
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Skip down a few verses her children are clothed in
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Linen's man. Keeping your kids clothes is kind of important.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Man. They mess it up and they tear their stuff.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: This is a this is a priority, just like cooking
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: dinner is a priority, so so so powerful and important
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: that that that gets done in the house. And I
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: want to you know, redeem and encourage that work. Like
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: and I say, this is a who folds laundry and
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: cooks in my house too. It's an important job to
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: make sure everybody has clean clothes to wear, and it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: an important job to make sure that our food is
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: made with love. And if there are other things that
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: feel super important, it's it's worthwhile to prayerfully check myself
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: how how important can something possibly be beyond feeding us.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: As a family.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I know, I'm not I'm not dissing anybody else's priority us. Hey,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: we've got we've got soccer to coach, and I've got
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: drum lessons to teach, and I've got a business to run.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: All those things, all those things are powerful and important.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: But as a family and in the home, as as
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: you've you've spoken about here, when we as a family
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: can can buy example and prayerfully get that priority list, right,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: so we can remove a lot of that overwhelm, remove
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: a lot of that stress, remove a lot of that anxiety,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: especially from the day to day, week to week things
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: that you know make up life something powerful and well
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: peaceful I hope happens, which I imagine is why you've
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: called it the pace of peace. Can you tell me
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: more about this whole pacing idea.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Well, I'll give you a sneak peek. Pace is actually
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I love acronyms, and pace is an acronym, so is peace.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: But pace, first of all a girl up on a
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: dairy farm. And yes, I'm a trained fitness instructor. However,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: when I went through the instructor training with revelation illness
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: of ministry that I am connected with, I was a
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: health coach looking for a way of teaching nutrition that
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: was less of the world, which my training was more
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: of as a health coach. But anyhow, I used to
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: have this saying that I don't run or unless the
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: cows get out. My native name is walker, so I
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: would always be like, see, I was even named a walker,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: you know, from birth, so I always like to use
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: that as my like cop out for moving my body.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: You know, what thing do we talk about in the
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: fitness world with pace more than probably anywhere is walking
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: and running or for myself, my husband and I really
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: enjoy hiking again though, like we were training. We hiked
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: the Grand Canyon with Revelational on us six years ago
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: and a big part of training, just like for a
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: marathon or anything else, is tracking your pace. Right, But
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: ultimately when we release our pace to the Lord, what
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: do we do? We pray and continue earnestly done. And
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: that's the acronym the Lord gave me for pace, because
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: to know me is to know that I am a
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: person who prays. My closest friends know that I just
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: it's it's part of who I am. Right, Like you say,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: train hard, but pray harder, and I was like, I
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: love that because yeah, ultimately it's our connection with the
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Lord and prayer, simpler conversation. But as I'm you know,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: walking because I love a good walk. That's like one
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: of my favorite ways of movement. Pace or any any
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: goal really even your to do list your day, when
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: you're pacing life, the pace of peace is when you
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: pray and continue earnestly. So that's not saying pace is
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: twenty miles per hour or one mile per hour, because
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: how you live your life and how I live my
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: life could look very different because we're wired differently, you know,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: just like someone who's walking. You know, when my husband
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: and I first dated, because of the nature of my
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: work at the time, when you know, back in the
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: day of malls, we don't have many malls anymore around us,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: at least, you know, I was the faster walker. He'd
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: be like, where are you running to? And it was
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: just the nature of my work at the time, so
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: I had a faster pace. And now the role has
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: shifted because I have been at home for the last
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: almost twenty years as my primary work and ministry, so
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I'm not in that pace of corporate world anymore. And
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: he's running large jobs and walking a lot more. And
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: now I'm like, it's funny how our paces have shifted.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: You know, I had to learn to slow down. But
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: that's just in relation to walking in the physical but
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: it's also the same as spiritually. Yes, you know, your
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: walk with the Lord looks different than mine. So I
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: keep coming back to pace is the acronym prey and continuer,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: you know, he Bruce twelve. You know, we each have
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: a race to run. Pace yourself. That's one of my
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: favorite things to tell people. I mean, a good trainer
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: you probably have said this to someone if they were
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: training for a five their first five k, like, just
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: pace yourself, pace yourself, you know, Like the ultimate goal
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: is to finish, and we want to finish well, like
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: I would imagine, just like myself. You want to hear
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: well done, good and faithful servant.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: M hm.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Well, ultimately, how do we finish? We can we continue
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: to pray mm hmm, continue to seek God first in
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: all things. So that's where pace comes from. So when
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: you're praying and continuing earnestly every day, seeking God first,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: and we've already established he's the Prince of peace, you're
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: going to have the pace of piece.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I love. That's that's how it'll comes together. That's a
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: great acronym.
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  Speaker 3: And I like, I like the earnestly part, you know,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: because because yeah, you gotta there's there's this thing, you know,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: and from from a masculine perspective, there's this thing about about.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Women and and being the weaker vessel blah blah blah.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: And and I'm not saying that's that's anti biblical. But
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I have trained women in majority for most of my career,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: and what I have found is that men have their
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: strength and women have their strength, and the strength is
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: a little bit different. I think of of men's strength
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: as being able to help us move forward up the hill,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: and I generally think of women's strength as being the
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: strength that keeps us from falling down the hill backwards.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: And both are so necessary and so powerful and important,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: and and I've met so many super strong women in
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: my life. The prey and continue all by itself sounds like, oh,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: that's prey and yeah.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. Praying can be peaceful and soft
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: and gentle, but.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Sometimes there's an earnestness necessary to getting through life. Sometimes
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: there's earnestness necessary to complete the task that God's given you.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: And while Jesus was the prince of peace, there is
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: some grit in that.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: There is some endurance. And that makes me think of
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Galatians six'. Nine let us not grow.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Weary in doing the good That god's given us to,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: do for in the end we will reap the harvest
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: if we do not give. Up there's some, earnestness in
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: some indomitability in that peace for. Sure and, also And
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: i'd love to hear what you think about, THIS i
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: believe that peace necessarily requires. Defending IF i choose, peace
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: IF i choose not to be overwhelmed today by my large,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: list AND i choose to be close to the heart
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: of The, father there's going to be times in my
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: day where something's going to challenge that something's going to
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: try to pull me off. Sides and and sometimes it
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: might be, me because you, KNOW i don't need to
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: give the devil too much. Credit and sometimes it might
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: be friends and family or unexpected. Happenings sometimes it might
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: be a trial That god has given me so THAT
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: i can grow in. Him and then sometimes there's just
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: good old fashioned fiery darts from the enemy trying to
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: ruin ruin this peace right and so so in in your,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: mind what are one of the WELL i don't want
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: to stay in your. MIND i actually want at this
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: point TO uh to point my listeners to a free
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: resource that you've invited us to grab a hold, of
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: and that is five proverbs we can pray while being.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Overwhelmed can you can you talk about that a little?
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Bit the links in the show.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: NOTES i, WANT i want anybody who's made it this
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: far in our conversation to go grab. It, uh it's
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: it's free to them to check. Out but but tell
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: me more about this defensive peace in this.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Tool.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah so it's this is WHERE i am like one
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: of my prayers is to be able to just know
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: scripture off the top of my. Head that is something
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: that is not a strength of mine and be LIKE
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: i can talk about a concept And i'd be, like
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: it's in The, bible but you need to give me
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: a minute to like reference. It and that's part of
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: where this resource was birthed, from because off the top
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: of my, Head i'm not one to be able to
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: quickly quote. Scripture it is a Prayer i'm continually asking
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: The lord to do as someone who's overcoming brain fog
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: for several, YEARS i think that's part of. It but
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: that's part of where the resource came, from because it's
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: something that can easily be printed out and put in
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: a place that where maybe it's a commonplace you recognize.
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  Speaker 4: Overwhelmed i'm a big fan for women put it in
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  Speaker 4: the bathroom or put a sticky note on. MIRROR i
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  Speaker 4: continually am saying, that LIKE i have scriptures on My
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  Speaker 4: if you ever want to know What i'm struggling, with
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  Speaker 4: you can just look at my bathroom mirror and you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna get a, theme probably within the scriptures that are on.
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  Speaker 4: There but the idea, DEFENSIVELY i love a good cleansing
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  Speaker 4: breath because no matter where you, are you can pause
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  Speaker 4: and take a deep. Breath and that's something that the
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  Speaker 4: world will tell, you. Right but what we can do
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  Speaker 4: as believers is partner it with. Scripture so that's where
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  Speaker 4: that tool comes in of praying the word mm.
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  Speaker 2: Hmm so in, THERE i.
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  Speaker 4: Give scriptures with a prayer because sometimes when you're in
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  Speaker 4: the midst of, overwhelm you don't know what to, pray.
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  Speaker 4: Right So i'm, like, here here's some written prayers for
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  Speaker 4: you that you can, say come into, agreement you, know read.
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  Speaker 4: It BECAUSE i never want someone to just pray something
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  Speaker 4: because you're coming into agreement with it without reading at.
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  Speaker 4: First that's just a personal. Conviction SO i invite, you,
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  Speaker 4: like read the prayer and then read it, aloud make
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  Speaker 4: it your. Own be, empowered because it is defensive to
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  Speaker 4: pray the scripture. BACK i often leave My bible open
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  Speaker 4: in my bedroom SO i can quickly just go in
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  Speaker 4: there and give myself a quick time out and just
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  Speaker 4: read the scripture and pray it back to The. LORD
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  Speaker 4: i think there's nothing that he loves more is our
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  Speaker 4: imperfection of being, like, Okay, lord here's your. WORD i
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  Speaker 4: know it is. True you know you are The prince
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  Speaker 4: of hees here you, know m h.
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  Speaker 2: Renew my.
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  Speaker 4: MIND i mean sometimes this is not holy. WHATSOEVER i
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  Speaker 4: don't but maybe you can let me know if you've done.
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  Speaker 4: This BUT i KNOW i, have AND i know other
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  Speaker 4: women that have because we've talked about. It you have
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  Speaker 4: en up The bible because you're in, overwhelm you're. Frustrated
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  Speaker 4: you pick up The bible and you just drop it
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  Speaker 4: it and you're, Like, lord give me something have you
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  Speaker 4: done THAT.
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  Speaker 2: I? HAVE i have.
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  Speaker 3: Before Thankfully psalms is in the middle of The, bible
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  Speaker 3: so you usually end up, With.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah the psalms are proverbs, usually And i'm, like thank, You.
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  Speaker 4: Lord and the REASON i did proverbs as defensive is
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  Speaker 4: because proverbs is, wisdom And i'm, LIKE i want to
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  Speaker 4: start with. Wisdom so they're just really simple, prayers but,
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  Speaker 4: yeah they're earnestly is definitely, defensive and The the THING
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  Speaker 4: i loved about that word that is defensive, too is
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  Speaker 4: WHEN i think, earnestly it's don't give.
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  Speaker 2: Up mm, hmm, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yep we have a lot of options when when we
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  Speaker 3: when we Follow, christ we have a lot of options
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  Speaker 3: about exactly what that, means or exactly What he's equipped to,
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  Speaker 3: you what gifts he's given you to.
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  Speaker 2: Do but one thing we all have in common is
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  Speaker 2: we don't get to give.
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  Speaker 3: Up that's the that's the that is what You you
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  Speaker 3: keep walking with him one one step in front of the.
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  Speaker 3: OTHER i don't worry too much about. Tomorrow today has
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  Speaker 3: enough worries of its. Own one foot in front of the,
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  Speaker 3: other AND i FIND i do find that to be
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  Speaker 3: very encouraging and very, challenging while at the same time
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  Speaker 3: being so incredibly. REASSURING i only have to worry about
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  Speaker 3: this next step ahead of. Me that's and AND i
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  Speaker 3: THINK i think Of paul actually as we're talking, here
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  Speaker 3: with with this this amazing gift and calling on his
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  Speaker 3: life to spread The gospel to the, gentiles like he's
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  Speaker 3: he's got this, thing you, know and and he's willing
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  Speaker 3: to do, it and he's excited to do, it and
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  Speaker 3: he's motivated and inspired to do, it you.
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  Speaker 2: Know but but like he's one.
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  Speaker 3: Guy he doesn't have, YouTube you, know, like, yeah go
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  Speaker 3: spread this to the known world like.
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  Speaker 2: Okay but but as deeply as there's a sense of
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  Speaker 2: urgency in his, mission it is you read throughout acts
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  Speaker 2: or you read through any of his epistles written in
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  Speaker 2: The New. Testament never once is he Telling christians to hurry,
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  Speaker 2: up LIKE i.
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  Speaker 3: CAN'T i can't think of one, verse AND i challenge
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  Speaker 3: any any of my listeners to find one for, me
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  Speaker 3: like speed.
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  Speaker 2: Up let's.
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  Speaker 3: Go uh he. He he talks about running a. Race
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't talk about beating everybody. Else he talks about
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  Speaker 3: running a. Race he talks about having a sense of
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: urgency because because surely come, Quickly Lord, Jesus like he
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  Speaker 3: talks about, that but it's, not it's, not oh my,
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  Speaker 3: gosh you have to do all of this stuff right,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: now get it. Done he, says to get close To
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  Speaker 3: god's heart and then to keep following one one step
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  Speaker 3: at a time every. Day and that's and that's how
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  Speaker 3: we as the church big see, church that's how we
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  Speaker 3: as followers Of. Christ that's that's PLAN, a and there's
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  Speaker 3: no PLAN. B like that's how that's How christ's will
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  Speaker 3: will be done here on earth as it is in,
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  Speaker 3: heaven is if every single one of us have a
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  Speaker 3: personal relationship with him and walk with, him follow, him
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  Speaker 3: grow with, him and do the good work that he
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  Speaker 3: set us here to, do and support each other while
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  Speaker 3: we're at.
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  Speaker 2: It there's, well there's just not a.
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  Speaker 3: Rush there's, urgency but but there's not a rush to
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  Speaker 3: get it all done right.
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  Speaker 2: Now AND i THINK i think for me that's a
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  Speaker 2: that's a deep core of as we've been talking about,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: here just the.
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  Speaker 3: The pace of. Peace so thank you for your. Acronym
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  Speaker 3: thank you for your book coming out In. January thank
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: you for your. PODCAST i think that it's going to
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: help so many as as, well women primarily seeking for practical,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: tools and, heck just the the permission from another mom
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: to to do, this to do this thing at the
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  Speaker 3: pace of, peace rather than to run around phrenetically and.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: OVERWHELMED i wanted to give you an opportunity to leave
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: our listeners with a couple final thoughts BEFORE i pray
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  Speaker 3: over you and your ministry and close our conversation down
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  Speaker 3: here in your mind in, Heart, michelle what do you
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  Speaker 3: want to make sure that listeners hear from you before
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  Speaker 3: we close this.
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  Speaker 2: Podcast, YEAH i.
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  Speaker 4: Think the big thing THAT i pray that your listeners
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: here BECAUSE i know you, know more than likely your
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: listeners are wanting to change their. Body because faithful fitness
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: is that even with your, body, mind, body, soul your
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: home is That god not in a hurry about that,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: either you. Know so if you're a woman who is
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: striving for a certain, size, again The prince of, peace you,
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: know just pray and continue earnestly hear, him seek him
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: that you can trust him with your, body just like
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: you can trust him with your. Kids so, ultimately like
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: peace is found in. Him anytime that you find yourself
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  Speaker 4: starting to strive or fall into shame and guilt, cycles
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  Speaker 4: whether you know that, spectrum whatever it. Is that one
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: of my favorite, sayings and it's one of the podcast
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: titles That i'll do. Monthly it's Just pauls and. Pray
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  Speaker 4: Just pauls and. Pray and you can do that anywhere
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  Speaker 4: in a car line lifting a weight that feels too.
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  Speaker 4: Heavy even in THAT i would challenge even in those
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: moments of where you do get a pair of pants
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: that are a size, smaller or you lift a heavier,
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: weight or you make a really good, meal pause and
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: pray and. Gratitude look for the evidence of. Healing that's
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: another THING i like to, say look for the evidence
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  Speaker 4: Of god in your. Life that there is evidence of
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  Speaker 4: peace every. Day if you look for, it you'll find
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: it because it's ultimately not the emotion we, follow the
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: emotion we, seek it's the person we.
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  Speaker 2: Follow, well Said, michelle thank you so much for this.
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  Speaker 3: Conversation would you mind praying with me SO i can
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  Speaker 3: pray over you and your. Ministry, YEAH i would love
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  Speaker 3: to thank, You Father, God thank you so much for this.
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  Speaker 3: Day thank you for the opportunity to spend time with my.
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  Speaker 3: SISTER i Pray lord that you'll Bless michelle and her good.
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  Speaker 3: Work thank you for the calling you've placed on her
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  Speaker 3: life and for helping her to see that peace as
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: an emotion is not the same thing as peace in
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  Speaker 3: the person Of Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: GOD i pray that peace over her and her. HOUSEHOLD
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  Speaker 2: i pray that peace over our listeners. Today It's.
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  Speaker 3: GOD i pray a blessing over her podcast and her.
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  Speaker 3: BOOK i pray that we would know. Peace as you
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  Speaker 3: said you left with, us AND i pray that we
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  Speaker 3: would know it in a different way than the world has,
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  Speaker 3: it so that those who don't know you will look
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  Speaker 3: at your people and, go.
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  Speaker 2: HUH i want?
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  Speaker 3: That how DO i get? It and we can tell
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  Speaker 3: them about. You we love, You lord And jesus'.
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  Speaker 4: Name, Amen, amen thank you so much for having.
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  Speaker 3: Me, yeah one hundred, Percent, michelle thank, You and to the,
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  Speaker 3: listeners you guys know What i'm going to say. Next
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  Speaker 3: this has been Coach Alex Vann houghton on The Faithful fitness.
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