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- Lucas: So there's a moment in every sales call where you realize you've been pitching to the wrong person for the last forty minutes. The person on the screen is nodding along, asking smart questions, but you can feel it — they're not the one who signs. Luna: Yeah, that's the worst. You can almost see them mentally checking their watch, waiting for you to finish so they can forward your deck to someone else. Lucas: Right. And the usual advice is, you should have asked who the decision maker was upfront. But the problem is, people don't always tell you the truth. Or they tell you what they think you want to hear. So I found a rep this month who fixed that problem with one simple ask — she asked the buyer for the meeting agenda before every call. Luna: The meeting agenda? That's it? I mean, we all get those calendar invites with a vague line or two about 'discovery' or 'synergy.' How does that change anything? Lucas: Well, it's not about the agenda itself. It's about what the agenda request reveals. When you ask a buyer to share the agenda, you're essentially asking them to tell you who's going to be in the room, what they care about, and why they're meeting you in the first place. And most buyers will just forward you the internal agenda they already have — which is a goldmine of information. Luna: Okay, so you're getting their internal doc, not just a boilerplate invite. That actually sounds useful. What did this rep see that changed the deal? Lucas: So she was chasing a mid-market SaaS deal — the kind that's been dragging for three months because the champion kept saying 'we're close' but nothing ever moved. She finally asked the champion to share the agenda for their next internal meeting. And what came back was this two-page document with five bullet points, and the last one said 'competitive evaluation review — finance lead.' Luna: Wait, finance lead? She wasn't selling to the champion at all, was she? Lucas: Exactly. The champion was the operations director, but the real gatekeeper was someone in finance who'd been sitting in on every internal review. The rep had never met that person. And once she saw that, she knew her pitch to the ops guy — which was all about workflow efficiency — was never going to land. She needed a different conversation entirely. Luna: So what did she do? Did she just ask for a meeting with finance? Lucas: She did. But here's the subtle part. She didn't go around the champion. She went back to him and said, 'I noticed finance is on the agenda for the competitive review. It sounds like there's a budget conversation happening there that I should be ready for. Can you help me understand what they're comparing us on — is it pricing, implementation cost, or total cost of ownership?' And the champion actually appreciated it, because now he had someone who could help him make the case internally. Luna: So the agenda request didn't just reveal the buyer — it also made the rep look like a partner who could help the champion sell the deal on his side. That's clever. Lucas: Right. And that's the real power of this technique. It's not a gotcha. You're not trying to trap anyone. You're just asking for the same thing you'd ask for if you were preparing for a meeting with a colleague. And because it's such a normal request, people let their guard down. Luna: I keep thinking about how this would work in my own context. I do a lot of partnership meetings, and I always just show up with my own agenda. I never ask them to share theirs. But now I'm wondering if I'm missing exactly this kind of signal. Lucas: It's honestly one of the lowest-effort, highest-information moves I've seen. And it's not just for discovery. It works at any stage. If you're about to do a demo or a negotiation session, asking for the agenda can tell you whether you're about to walk into a pitch meeting or a pricing review. Luna: Yeah, and I bet it's especially useful when you're dealing with someone who's been quiet or evasive. If they can't produce an agenda, that's also information, right? Lucas: That's a great point. If they don't have an agenda, it might mean the meeting's not as important to them as you thought. Or it might mean they're not the one who's actually organizing it. Either way, you've learned something about where you stand. Luna: It's like you're taking a tiny amount of the mystery out of the sales process, one email at a time. Lucas: Exactly. And you know, for a show like ours, that's the kind of thing we love digging into. If these conversations have moved your work forward in some small way, a couple of dollars a month is genuinely what keeps these going — buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, if you've gotten something out of them. Luna: Yeah, it's a small thing that makes a real difference for us. We really appreciate anyone who does that. Lucas: So back to that deal — once the rep got in front of finance, what do you think happened? She didn't lead with pricing. She asked what metrics finance used to evaluate their current tools, and it turned out the company was bleeding money on a legacy system that charged per user. She showed them how her pricing model was actually cheaper at their scale, and the deal closed two weeks later. Luna: Wow. So the agenda request wasn't just a clever trick — it completely changed the conversation. She went from selling efficiency to selling cost savings, and that's what the person in the room actually cared about. Lucas: Right. And that's the core of this: you can't tailor your pitch to the right person if you don't know who the right person is. Asking for the agenda is the fastest way to find out. It's almost like a diagnostic tool that forces the buyer to reveal their internal dynamics. Luna: And it's not just about discovering the decision maker. It's also about understanding the buyer's priorities. If the agenda lists 'security review' before 'implementation timeline,' you know what keeps them up at night. Lucas: Exactly. And you might even spot red flags too, like if the agenda has a slot for 'alternatives assessment' or 'vendor consolidation.' That tells you there's a bigger conversation happening that you might not be part of yet. Luna: So what's the best way to ask for it without sounding like you're trying to control the meeting? Because I could see some reps being nervous about that. Lucas: Good question. The rep I talked to used a simple line. She'd say something like, 'To make sure I'm fully prepared and we use our time well, could you share the agenda you have in mind for our call? I want to make sure I'm addressing what matters most to you.' And that's it. It's polite, it's practical, and it's almost always answered. Luna: It's such a normal request that it doesn't trigger any suspicion. And if they don't have an agenda, they might just say, 'We haven't formalized one, but here's what I want to cover' — which is still useful. Lucas: Right. And you can even make it easier for them by offering your own draft. You could say, 'I've put together a rough outline of what I was thinking we'd cover. Want to see if that aligns with what you had in mind?' That way you're not just taking — you're giving something back. Luna: That's a nice twist. It turns the ask into a collaborative move instead of a one-way request. It's like you're saying, 'Let's build this meeting together.' Lucas: Exactly. And once you have the agenda, you can start to read it like a detective. You're looking for who's listed, what order the topics are in, and what's not on there at all. What's missing is often just as telling as what's included. Luna: Like if there's no mention of budget or timeline, that could mean the buyer is still in research mode and not ready to talk numbers yet. Lucas: Or it could mean they're hiding the budget conversation until they've narrowed it down to two vendors. Either way, you can use that to steer the conversation toward the things that will actually move the deal forward. Luna: Have you seen this fail? Like, what happens when you ask for an agenda and the buyer says no, or gets weird about it? Lucas: That's a great question. I've seen it fail once or twice, and usually it means the buyer doesn't want to commit to a structure because they don't want you to know something. Or they don't see you as important enough to prepare for. In both cases, it's a signal about where you stand in the process. Luna: So it's a bit of a power move disguised as a simple request. You're not just getting information; you're also testing the temperature of the relationship. Lucas: Yeah, I'd say that's fair. And the beauty is, it works at any stage. I've seen reps use it before a final proposal review to make sure they're not walking into a room full of people they've never met. And I've seen it used before contract negotiation to understand whose signatures are actually needed. Luna: So it's not just a discovery tool — it's a pre-meeting prep ritual that scales across the entire sales cycle. Lucas: Exactly. And it costs you nothing but a few seconds of typing. But it can save you from wasting hours in meetings that don't go anywhere. That's the kind of return on investment you don't need a spreadsheet to appreciate. Luna: Speaking of spreadsheets, have you tried this yourself? I'm curious if you've ever had a moment where you looked at an agenda and thought, 'Whoa, I was about to pitch the wrong thing.' Lucas: Oh, absolutely. There was a time when I was consulting for a logistics company, and I had a meeting with their head of operations. I asked for the agenda, and it turned out the COO and the CFO were both attending. That changed my whole deck. I went from talking about process optimization to talking about cost per delivery and fleet utilization. The meeting ended up being a total win because I was ready for the right audience. Luna: That's a perfect example. And it shows that this isn't just for sales reps — it's for anyone who has to walk into a meeting and make something happen. Consultants, account managers, even founders pitching investors. Lucas: Yeah, I think the principle is universal: know who's in the room and what they care about before you open your mouth. The agenda is just the most efficient way to get that knowledge. Luna: So if you're listening and you've got a meeting coming up this week, maybe just try it once. See what happens. Worst case, you get a generic agenda. Best case, you find out the real decision maker is someone you've never spoken to. Lucas: And if that happens, you might just save yourself from three months of spinning your wheels. That's the kind of small tweak that can completely change your close rate. I'd love to hear from anyone who tries this — does it work for you? What do you see in those agendas?