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Welcome back, Valerie: What a baby does to business. #LTM150 · Let's talk Marketplace

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  There's
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  this
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  German
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  five
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  odds.
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  Yeah.
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  It's
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  like,
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  come
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  on,
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  don't
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  take
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  seriously.
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  don't
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  have
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  to
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  happen
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  at
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  an
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  exact
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  you
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  can
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  just
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  give
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  people
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  a
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  of
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  lenience
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  and
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  a
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  bit
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  of
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  understanding
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  and
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  then
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  everything
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  works
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  out
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  just
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  fine.
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  Let's
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  talk
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  Marketplace.
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  The
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  Marketplace
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  podcast
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  with
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  Ingrid
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  Lomar
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  and
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  Vanna
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  Ritistu.
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  Hello
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  and
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  welcome
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  back
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  to
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  let's
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  Talk
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  Marketplace
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  and
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  to
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  our
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  episode
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  150.
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  Can
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  you
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  imagine?
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  Just
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  give
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  me
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  a
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  second.
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  I
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  have
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  to
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  play
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  that
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  one
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  because
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  I
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  think
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  this
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  is
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  really
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  fitting
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  because
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  after
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  all,
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  look
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  who's
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  back.
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  It's
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  Valerie,
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  fresh
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  from
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  her
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  maternity
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  leave
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  and
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  I'm
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  really
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  happy
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  that
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  she's
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  here
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  again.
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  So,
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  Valerie,
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  welcome
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  home.
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  I
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  would
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  say.
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  Thank
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  you.
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  How
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  are
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  you?
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  Thank
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  you.
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  Feels
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  pretty
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  like
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  before.
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  It's
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  good.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm
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  back
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  and
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  I've
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  changed.
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  I
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  think
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  that's
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  what
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  you
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  do
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  if
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  you.
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  Yeah.
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  Become
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  a
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  human
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  being.
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  Right.
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  And
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  if
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  you
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  are
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  born
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  a
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  baby
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  boy.
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  Yeah.
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  Quite
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  excited
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  about
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  that.
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  150
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  episodes.
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  amazing
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  that
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  us
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  hand
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  out
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  huge
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  thanks
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  to
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  our
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  listeners
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  because
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  that's
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  all
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  due
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  to
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  you,
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  that
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  to
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  us
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  that
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  for
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  150
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  episodes
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  And
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  now
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  the
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  back.
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  Yeah.
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  how
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  it
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  for
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  you,
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  Ingrid?
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  that
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  That's
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  an
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  question
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  and
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  one
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  that
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  might
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  be
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  interesting
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  to
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  our
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  listeners
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  as
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  well.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  why
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  don't
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  we
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  do
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  a
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  more
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  personal
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  episode
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  today?
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  You
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  know,
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  talk
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  about
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  how
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  things
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  were
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  for
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  you
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  for
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  the
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  last
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  four
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  months
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  and
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  for
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  me
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  and
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  how
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  you.
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  Yeah,
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  you
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  navigate
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  a
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  startup
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  such
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  as
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  Marketplace
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  universe
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  through
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  a
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  special
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  time
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  like
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  that.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  so
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  today,
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  dear
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  listeners,
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  it's
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  more
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  personal
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  and
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  not
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  the
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  usual
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  Marketplace
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  business
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  things,
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  I
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  guess,
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  but
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  a
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  lot
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  about
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  Valerie
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  and
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  me.
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  Yeah,
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  yeah.
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  But,
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  you
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  know,
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  first
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  let's
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  talk
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  about
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  you,
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  I
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  think,
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  because
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  that
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  is
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  the
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  right
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  order
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  of
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  things.
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  This
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  is
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  because
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  you
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  had
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  this
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  life
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  changing
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  thing
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  happen
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  in.
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  In
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  your
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  life.
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  So
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  how
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  was
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  it
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  for
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  you
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  to
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  step
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  back
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  and
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  step
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  into
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  a
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  completely
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  different
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  role?
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  And
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  because
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  everyone
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  knows
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  you
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  as
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  being
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  very
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  active,
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  very
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  energetic,
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  very
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  engaged
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  in
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  everything
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  that
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  is
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  happening
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  in
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  our
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  industry.
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  How
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  was
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  it
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  to
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  take
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  a
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  step
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  back
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  from
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  all
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  of
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  that?
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  Well,
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  to
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  be
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  very
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  honest,
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  while
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  I
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  was
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  pregnant,
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  I
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  really
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  tried
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  to
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  hand
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  over
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  everything
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  as
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  best
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  as
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  possible,
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  but
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  it
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  really
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  stressed
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  me
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  out,
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  to
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  be
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  very
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  honest.
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  So
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  because
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  there
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  is
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  like,
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  you.
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  You
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  think
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  like
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  you
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  have
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  the
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  same
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  energy,
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  but
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  you
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  have,
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  you
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  don't.
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  And
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  yeah,
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  so
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  that
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  was
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  challenging
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  and
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  like
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  feelings
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  of
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  like
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  ups
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  and
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  downs
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  and
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  yeah,
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  stressful.
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  We
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  also
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  had
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  a
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  place
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  the
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  backup
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  for
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  December
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  topics
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  like
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  webinar
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  or
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  our
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  final
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  round
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  of
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  the
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  community.
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  And
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  we
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  were
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  quite
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  lucky
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  with
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  that
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  because
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  the
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  baby
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  boy
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  arrived
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  two
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  and
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  a
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  half
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  weeks
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  earlier
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  than
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  expected.
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  And
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  so
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  I
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  was
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  really
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  happy
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  that
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  we
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  were
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  prepared
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  for
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  that
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  one.
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  And
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  you
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  know
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  what
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  I
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  realized
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  as
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  well?
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  I
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  mean,
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  many
• 3:31
  of
• 3:31
  you
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  don't
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  know
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  how
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  many
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  people
• 3:33
  we
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  are
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  in
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  the
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  background.
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  So
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  it's
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  not
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  just
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  Ingrid
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  and
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  me.
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  It's
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  a
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  huge
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  team
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  of
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  all
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  women.
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  So
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  we
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  are
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  in
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  total
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  10
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  women,
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  most
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  sometimes
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  more,
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  sometimes
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  less.
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  And
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  I
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  also
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  thought
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  about
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  the
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  past
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  almost
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  every
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  time
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  someone
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  is
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  pregnant.
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  So
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  anyone
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  in
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  this
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  team
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  is
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  always,
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  that's
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  true,
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  actually
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  is
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  always
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  pregnant.
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  So
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  that's.
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  That's
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  really
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  something
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  we
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  are
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  somehow
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  used
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  to
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  now,
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  I
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  would
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  say.
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  And
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  what's
• 4:05
  also
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  interesting
• 4:06
  is
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  we.
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  And
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  this
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  is
• 4:07
  what
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  I
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  can
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  now
• 4:08
  confirm
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  even
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  more.
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  I
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  really
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  love
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  to
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  work
• 4:10
  with
• 4:11
  moms.
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  So
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  why?
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  Because
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  they
• 4:15
  are
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  on
• 4:16
  that
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  line.
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  We
• 4:17
  don't
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  care
• 4:18
  when
• 4:18
  they
• 4:18
  do
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  their
• 4:19
  work.
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  So
• 4:20
  if
• 4:20
  you
• 4:20
  do
• 4:20
  this
• 4:20
  when
• 4:21
  your
• 4:21
  baby
• 4:21
  is
• 4:21
  sleeping
• 4:22
  or
• 4:22
  whatever
• 4:23
  is
• 4:24
  in
• 4:24
  the
• 4:24
  kindergarten
• 4:25
  or
• 4:25
  whatever.
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  And
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  we
• 4:26
  are
• 4:26
  all
• 4:26
  so
• 4:26
  efficient
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  because
• 4:27
  we
• 4:27
  have
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  to,
• 4:28
  we
• 4:28
  must
• 4:29
  be
• 4:29
  efficient.
• 4:30
  And
• 4:30
  this
• 4:30
  is
• 4:30
  what
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  I
• 4:31
  think
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  changed
• 4:32
  for
• 4:32
  me
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  a
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  lot.
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  I
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  don't
• 4:35
  do
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  doom
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  scrolling
• 4:36
  while
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  I
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  work
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  on,
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  I
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  don't
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  know,
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  Instagram.
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  Sometimes
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  you
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  do
• 4:39
  this,
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  right?
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  Like,
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  okay,
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  I
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  need
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  a
• 4:41
  break.
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  But
• 4:42
  my
• 4:42
  breaks
• 4:42
  are
• 4:42
  nursing
• 4:43
  my
• 4:43
  baby
• 4:44
  now.
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  And
• 4:45
  then
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  I
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  work
• 4:46
  in
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  between
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  breaks.
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  I
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  mean,
• 4:49
  luckily
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  I
• 4:50
  am
• 4:50
  allowed
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  and
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  able
• 4:51
  to
• 4:51
  work
• 4:52
  from
• 4:52
  home
• 4:52
  and
• 4:53
  online.
• 4:53
  So
• 4:54
  I
• 4:54
  don't
• 4:54
  need
• 4:54
  to
• 4:54
  travel
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  somewhere.
• 4:56
  And
• 4:57
  yeah,
• 4:57
  travel
• 4:57
  is
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  a
• 4:58
  big
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  thing,
• 4:58
  which
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  is
• 4:59
  changing
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  right
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  now
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  for
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  me.
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  That's
• 5:02
  also
• 5:02
  changing.
• 5:03
  But
• 5:04
  I
• 5:04
  try
• 5:04
  to
• 5:05
  take
• 5:05
  part
• 5:05
  on
• 5:05
  some
• 5:06
  events
• 5:06
  already
• 5:07
  in
• 5:07
  Munich
• 5:08
  and
• 5:08
  I
• 5:08
  felt
• 5:09
  that.
• 5:09
  So
• 5:09
  for
• 5:09
  example,
• 5:10
  at
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  TikTok
• 5:10
  shop
• 5:11
  anniversary,
• 5:12
  I
• 5:12
  was
• 5:13
  at
• 5:13
  a
• 5:14
  behind
• 5:14
  closed
• 5:15
  door
• 5:15
  event.
• 5:15
  I
• 5:16
  was
• 5:16
  somewhere
• 5:16
  else
• 5:17
  as
• 5:17
  well.
• 5:17
  We
• 5:17
  had
• 5:17
  our
• 5:17
  own
• 5:18
  event
• 5:18
  already.
• 5:18
  We
• 5:18
  were
• 5:18
  on
• 5:19
  the
• 5:19
  miracle
• 5:19
  Summit.
• 5:20
  So
• 5:20
  I
• 5:21
  really
• 5:21
  felt
• 5:22
  this
• 5:22
  passion
• 5:22
  again
• 5:22
  of
• 5:23
  like,
• 5:23
  ah,
• 5:23
  yeah,
• 5:23
  okay,
• 5:24
  I'm
• 5:24
  back
• 5:25
  there.
• 5:25
  And
• 5:25
  it's
• 5:25
  still
• 5:26
  the
• 5:26
  same
• 5:26
  feeling
• 5:27
  of
• 5:27
  like
• 5:28
  connection
• 5:28
  with
• 5:29
  all
• 5:29
  our
• 5:29
  audience,
• 5:30
  listeners,
• 5:31
  clients,
• 5:31
  et
• 5:32
  cetera.
• 5:32
  So
• 5:32
  this
• 5:33
  is
• 5:33
  what
• 5:33
  I
• 5:33
  really
• 5:33
  love.
• 5:34
  But.
• 5:34
  And
• 5:34
  to
• 5:34
  be
• 5:34
  honest,
• 5:36
  I
• 5:36
  was
• 5:36
  not
• 5:36
  working
• 5:37
  in
• 5:37
  December
• 5:37
  and
• 5:38
  January.
• 5:39
  But
• 5:40
  then
• 5:40
  on
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  background
• 5:41
  I
• 5:41
  always
• 5:41
  had
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  look
• 5:42
  on
• 5:42
  my
• 5:42
  emails
• 5:42
  or
• 5:42
  LinkedIn
• 5:43
  or
• 5:43
  something
• 5:44
  and
• 5:44
  it's
• 5:45
  time
• 5:45
  to
• 5:45
  step
• 5:45
  back.
• 5:45
  If
• 5:46
  it's
• 5:46
  your
• 5:46
  own
• 5:46
  company,
• 5:47
  yes,
• 5:48
  it's.
• 5:48
  Really,
• 5:48
  it's
• 5:49
  so
• 5:49
  different.
• 5:50
  Nothing
• 5:51
  at
• 5:51
  all.
• 5:51
  Yeah.
• 5:52
  So
• 5:53
  you
• 5:53
  always
• 5:53
  have
• 5:53
  an
• 5:53
  eye
• 5:53
  on
• 5:54
  it,
• 5:54
  I
• 5:54
  would
• 5:54
  say.
• 5:55
  Yeah.
• 5:55
  But
• 5:55
  this
• 5:56
  is
• 5:56
  also
• 5:56
  important.
• 5:57
  But
• 5:57
  I
• 5:57
  also
• 5:58
  was
• 5:58
  not
• 5:59
  so
• 5:59
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• 5:59
  on
• 5:59
  track
• 6:00
  what
• 6:00
  really
• 6:00
  happened
• 6:01
  in
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  marketplace
• 6:01
  industry.
• 6:02
  So
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  think
• 6:03
  also
• 6:04
  that
• 6:04
  when
• 6:04
  I
• 6:05
  was
• 6:05
  not
• 6:06
  there,
• 6:06
  as
• 6:07
  present
• 6:07
  as
• 6:07
  I
• 6:08
  used
• 6:08
  to
• 6:08
  be,
• 6:08
  I
• 6:09
  missed
• 6:09
  some
• 6:09
  topics,
• 6:10
  definitely.
• 6:11
  So
• 6:12
  what
• 6:12
  I
• 6:12
  realized
• 6:13
  is
• 6:13
  that
• 6:13
  we
• 6:14
  both
• 6:14
  did
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  good
• 6:15
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• 6:15
  Everyone
• 6:15
  did
• 6:16
  usually
• 6:17
  the
• 6:17
  things
• 6:18
  where
• 6:18
  we
• 6:18
  are
• 6:18
  really
• 6:18
  good
• 6:18
  in.
• 6:19
  So
• 6:19
  you
• 6:20
  have
• 6:20
  your
• 6:20
  strength.
• 6:20
  I
• 6:21
  have
• 6:21
  my
• 6:21
  strength.
• 6:21
  And
• 6:22
  then
• 6:22
  I
• 6:22
  realized
• 6:23
  on
• 6:23
  the
• 6:23
  marketplace
• 6:24
  took
• 6:25
  a
• 6:25
  summit,
• 6:26
  there
• 6:26
  were
• 6:27
  like,
• 6:27
  people
• 6:27
  asking
• 6:27
  like,
• 6:28
  hey,
• 6:28
  what's
• 6:28
  your
• 6:29
  turf
• 6:29
  and
• 6:29
  opinion
• 6:30
  about
• 6:30
  Joy
• 6:30
  Buy?
• 6:30
  And
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  know
• 6:31
  that
• 6:32
  we
• 6:32
  wrote
• 6:32
  something
• 6:33
  on
• 6:33
  my
• 6:33
  profile
• 6:34
  on
• 6:34
  LinkedIn
• 6:35
  some
• 6:35
  weeks
• 6:36
  before,
• 6:37
  and
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  was
• 6:37
  like,
• 6:37
  well,
• 6:40
  yeah,
• 6:40
  I
• 6:41
  have
• 6:41
  no
• 6:41
  clue.
• 6:42
  Ask
• 6:42
  Ingrid,
• 6:43
  please.
• 6:43
  Because,
• 6:44
  yeah,
• 6:44
  you
• 6:44
  did
• 6:44
  all
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  work
• 6:45
  in
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  background,
• 6:45
  so.
• 6:47
  And
• 6:47
  our
• 6:48
  team,
• 6:48
  obviously.
• 6:49
  But
• 6:49
  I'm.
• 6:49
  I'm
• 6:50
  quite
• 6:50
  glad
• 6:50
  I
• 6:50
  had
• 6:51
  this
• 6:51
  four
• 6:51
  months
• 6:52
  to
• 6:52
  really
• 6:52
  take
• 6:53
  care
• 6:53
  about
• 6:53
  my
• 6:53
  baby.
• 6:54
  I
• 6:54
  also
• 6:54
  think
• 6:55
  I
• 6:55
  changed.
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  became
• 6:57
  more
• 6:58
  relaxed
• 6:59
  and
• 6:59
  more
• 6:59
  empathetic.
• 7:02
  Yes,
• 7:03
  that's
• 7:04
  the
• 7:04
  word.
• 7:04
  Yeah,
• 7:04
  yeah.
• 7:06
  But
• 7:06
  at
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  same
• 7:07
  time,
• 7:09
  much
• 7:09
  more
• 7:09
  focused
• 7:10
  on
• 7:11
  really
• 7:11
  getting
• 7:11
  things
• 7:12
  done.
• 7:12
  And
• 7:13
  I
• 7:13
  really
• 7:13
  have
• 7:14
  no
• 7:14
  patience
• 7:15
  for
• 7:15
  bullshitting.
• 7:16
  Well,
• 7:17
  to
• 7:17
  be
• 7:17
  honest,
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  patience
• 7:18
  was
• 7:18
  already
• 7:18
  wearing
• 7:19
  thin
• 7:19
  before
• 7:20
  that.
• 7:20
  But.
• 7:21
  But
• 7:21
  that's
• 7:22
  even
• 7:22
  like,
• 7:23
  smaller.
• 7:24
  What
• 7:24
  do
• 7:24
  you
• 7:24
  want?
• 7:24
  Tell
• 7:25
  me
• 7:25
  now.
• 7:26
  Yeah,
• 7:26
  it's
• 7:26
  like,
• 7:26
  don't
• 7:27
  mess
• 7:27
  around.
• 7:27
  Let's
• 7:28
  work
• 7:28
  with
• 7:28
  us.
• 7:29
  No,
• 7:29
  maybe
• 7:30
  not.
• 7:30
  I
• 7:31
  tell
• 7:31
  you
• 7:31
  in
• 7:31
  four
• 7:31
  weeks,
• 7:31
  it's
• 7:32
  like,
• 7:32
  okay,
• 7:32
  then
• 7:34
  come
• 7:34
  on,
• 7:35
  get
• 7:35
  going.
• 7:35
  Yeah,
• 7:35
  get
• 7:36
  going.
• 7:36
  Or
• 7:36
  let
• 7:37
  it.
• 7:37
  But
• 7:37
  don't
• 7:38
  waste
• 7:38
  my
• 7:38
  time.
• 7:38
  Right?
• 7:39
  So,
• 7:39
  yeah,
• 7:40
  I
• 7:40
  would
• 7:40
  say,
• 7:40
  like,
• 7:41
  wasting
• 7:41
  my
• 7:42
  time.
• 7:42
  I
• 7:43
  get
• 7:43
  really
• 7:43
  fast,
• 7:44
  really
• 7:45
  unpleasant
• 7:47
  because
• 7:47
  I
• 7:48
  don't
• 7:48
  have
• 7:48
  much
• 7:48
  time
• 7:48
  anymore.
• 7:49
  Right.
• 7:49
  Yeah,
• 7:49
  that's
• 7:50
  absolutely
• 7:51
  understandable.
• 7:51
  Yeah,
• 7:53
  yeah,
• 7:54
  yeah.
• 7:55
  So
• 7:55
  tell
• 7:55
  me,
• 7:55
  tell
• 7:55
  me
• 7:56
  from
• 7:56
  your
• 7:56
  own
• 7:56
  mouth.
• 7:56
  Because
• 7:57
  you
• 7:57
  know
• 7:57
  what
• 7:57
  pissed
• 7:58
  me
• 7:58
  off?
• 7:58
  Two
• 7:58
  things
• 7:58
  pissed
• 7:59
  me
• 7:59
  off.
• 7:59
  Nothing
• 8:00
  about
• 8:00
  you,
• 8:00
  but
• 8:00
  when.
• 8:01
  When
• 8:01
  we
• 8:01
  first
• 8:01
  announced
• 8:02
  that
• 8:02
  you
• 8:02
  were
• 8:02
  pregnant
• 8:03
  and,
• 8:04
  and
• 8:04
  that
• 8:04
  was
• 8:04
  quite
• 8:05
  late,.
• 8:05
  We
• 8:05
  have
• 8:05
  to
• 8:05
  say,
• 8:06
  quite
• 8:06
  late
• 8:06
  in
• 8:07
  November.
• 8:07
  In
• 8:07
  November.
• 8:08
  And
• 8:08
  beforehand
• 8:09
  we
• 8:09
  were
• 8:09
  really,
• 8:10
  really
• 8:10
  relying
• 8:11
  on
• 8:11
  that.
• 8:11
  We
• 8:11
  have
• 8:12
  a
• 8:12
  remote
• 8:12
  business
• 8:12
  and
• 8:13
  people
• 8:13
  don't.
• 8:14
  We
• 8:14
  can
• 8:14
  always
• 8:14
  show.
• 8:15
  Show
• 8:15
  you
• 8:15
  just
• 8:15
  from,
• 8:16
  you
• 8:16
  know,
• 8:16
  top
• 8:17
  the
• 8:17
  waist.
• 8:17
  So
• 8:18
  no
• 8:18
  one
• 8:18
  would
• 8:18
  be
• 8:18
  with
• 8:19
  them,
• 8:19
  much
• 8:19
  the
• 8:19
  wiser.
• 8:20
  But
• 8:20
  in
• 8:20
  the
• 8:20
  end,
• 8:21
  we,
• 8:21
  we
• 8:21
  communicated
• 8:22
  in
• 8:22
  November
• 8:23
  and
• 8:23
  then
• 8:23
  I
• 8:24
  got
• 8:24
  a
• 8:24
  few
• 8:25
  messages
• 8:25
  like,
• 8:26
  congratulations
• 8:27
  on
• 8:27
  what
• 8:27
  your
• 8:28
  business
• 8:28
  partner
• 8:28
  is
• 8:29
  doing.
• 8:29
  How
• 8:29
  do
• 8:30
  you
• 8:30
  feel
• 8:30
  about
• 8:30
  it?
• 8:31
  It's
• 8:31
  like,
• 8:34
  yeah,
• 8:34
  okay.
• 8:34
  So
• 8:34
  that
• 8:34
  was
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  first
• 8:35
  thing
• 8:35
  that
• 8:35
  pissed
• 8:35
  me
• 8:36
  off.
• 8:36
  I'm
• 8:36
  going
• 8:36
  into
• 8:36
  a
• 8:37
  bit
• 8:37
  more
• 8:37
  detail
• 8:37
  why
• 8:37
  that
• 8:38
  pissed
• 8:38
  me
• 8:38
  off.
• 8:38
  Just
• 8:39
  a
• 8:39
  minute.
• 8:39
  But
• 8:39
  the
• 8:39
  second
• 8:40
  thing,
• 8:40
  and
• 8:40
  that
• 8:40
  one
• 8:41
  pissed
• 8:41
  me
• 8:41
  off
• 8:41
  even
• 8:42
  more
• 8:43
  was
• 8:43
  People
• 8:44
  in
• 8:44
  February,
• 8:45
  March,
• 8:46
  when
• 8:46
  they
• 8:46
  were
• 8:47
  contacting
• 8:47
  me,
• 8:47
  and
• 8:48
  I
• 8:48
  was
• 8:48
  like,
• 8:48
  yeah,
• 8:49
  that
• 8:49
  is
• 8:49
  a
• 8:49
  topic
• 8:49
  that
• 8:50
  is
• 8:50
  more
• 8:50
  on
• 8:50
  Valerie's
• 8:51
  desk.
• 8:51
  And
• 8:51
  she's
• 8:52
  going
• 8:52
  to
• 8:52
  be
• 8:52
  back
• 8:52
  in
• 8:53
  beginning
• 8:53
  of
• 8:53
  April.
• 8:54
  And
• 8:54
  then
• 8:55
  you
• 8:55
  can
• 8:55
  talk
• 8:55
  with
• 8:55
  her
• 8:55
  about
• 8:56
  that
• 8:56
  in.
• 8:56
  In
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  mean
• 8:57
  meantime,
• 8:58
  here's
• 8:58
  what
• 8:58
  I
• 8:58
  have
• 8:59
  to
• 8:59
  say
• 8:59
  about
• 8:59
  it.
• 8:59
  And
• 9:00
  then
• 9:00
  I
• 9:01
  got
• 9:01
  some
• 9:01
  reactions
• 9:02
  that
• 9:02
  were
• 9:02
  on
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  lines
• 9:03
  of,
• 9:03
  yeah,
• 9:04
  let's
• 9:04
  see
• 9:04
  if
• 9:04
  she
• 9:04
  comes
• 9:05
  back.
• 9:06
  Let's
• 9:06
  see.
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  mean,
• 9:07
  yeah,
• 9:08
  you
• 9:08
  know,
• 9:08
  people
• 9:09
  can
• 9:09
  talk
• 9:09
  a
• 9:09
  lot
• 9:09
  about
• 9:10
  coming
• 9:10
  back.
• 9:10
  And,
• 9:11
  yeah,
• 9:11
  and
• 9:11
  things
• 9:11
  change
• 9:12
  completely.
• 9:13
  People
• 9:13
  change
• 9:14
  completely.
• 9:15
  And
• 9:15
  who
• 9:15
  knows?
• 9:16
  Yeah,
• 9:16
  that
• 9:16
  really
• 9:17
  pissed
• 9:17
  me
• 9:17
  off.
• 9:18
  And
• 9:18
  two
• 9:19
  reasons
• 9:19
  for
• 9:19
  that.
• 9:19
  Because
• 9:20
  first,
• 9:20
  of
• 9:21
  course,
• 9:21
  I
• 9:22
  knew
• 9:22
  what
• 9:23
  was
• 9:23
  coming.
• 9:24
  It
• 9:24
  was
• 9:24
  not
• 9:24
  like
• 9:25
  you
• 9:25
  were
• 9:25
  coming
• 9:25
  to
• 9:25
  me,
• 9:26
  like,
• 9:26
  by
• 9:26
  the
• 9:26
  way,
• 9:27
  I'm
• 9:27
  pregnant.
• 9:27
  Bye.
• 9:28
  Bye.
• 9:28
  Yeah,
• 9:28
  that's
• 9:29
  not
• 9:29
  what
• 9:29
  happens.
• 9:29
  This
• 9:30
  is
• 9:30
  when
• 9:31
  we
• 9:31
  formed
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  company.
• 9:32
  You
• 9:32
  told
• 9:32
  me
• 9:32
  about
• 9:33
  your
• 9:33
  plans
• 9:33
  and
• 9:34
  I
• 9:34
  knew
• 9:34
  sooner
• 9:34
  or
• 9:34
  later
• 9:35
  it's
• 9:35
  going
• 9:35
  to
• 9:35
  happen,
• 9:36
  that
• 9:36
  you're
• 9:36
  having
• 9:36
  a
• 9:36
  baby.
• 9:37
  And
• 9:37
  I
• 9:37
  had
• 9:38
  a
• 9:38
  good
• 9:38
  think
• 9:38
  about
• 9:38
  it.
• 9:39
  How
• 9:39
  can
• 9:39
  we
• 9:39
  manage?
• 9:40
  How
• 9:40
  will
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  manage?
• 9:41
  And
• 9:41
  we
• 9:41
  talked
• 9:42
  about
• 9:42
  it
• 9:42
  very
• 9:42
  much,
• 9:43
  very
• 9:43
  much.
• 9:44
  And
• 9:44
  you
• 9:44
  spent
• 9:45
  a
• 9:45
  lot
• 9:45
  of
• 9:45
  your
• 9:45
  time
• 9:46
  during
• 9:47
  the
• 9:47
  pregnancy
• 9:47
  to
• 9:48
  prepare
• 9:48
  for
• 9:48
  the
• 9:48
  four
• 9:49
  months
• 9:49
  that
• 9:49
  you
• 9:49
  would
• 9:49
  be
• 9:50
  away,
• 9:50
  to
• 9:51
  really
• 9:51
  enable
• 9:52
  me
• 9:52
  to
• 9:53
  know
• 9:53
  everything
• 9:54
  that
• 9:54
  I
• 9:54
  needed
• 9:54
  to
• 9:54
  know,
• 9:55
  to
• 9:55
  have
• 9:55
  all
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  information
• 9:56
  that
• 9:56
  I
• 9:56
  needed
• 9:57
  available.
• 9:58
  So
• 9:58
  there
• 9:59
  was
• 9:59
  a
• 9:59
  lot
• 9:59
  of
• 9:59
  preparation
• 10:00
  going
• 10:00
  on.
• 10:00
  I
• 10:01
  didn't
• 10:01
  stumble
• 10:01
  into
• 10:02
  this
• 10:02
  completely
• 10:03
  unprepared.
• 10:04
  Just
• 10:04
  definitely
• 10:05
  the
• 10:05
  opposite.
• 10:06
  That
• 10:06
  was
• 10:06
  the
• 10:06
  one
• 10:06
  thing.
• 10:07
  And
• 10:07
  the
• 10:07
  other
• 10:07
  thing
• 10:08
  which
• 10:08
  pissed
• 10:08
  me
• 10:08
  off
• 10:09
  even
• 10:09
  more
• 10:09
  is,
• 10:10
  yes,
• 10:10
  as
• 10:11
  you
• 10:11
  said,
• 10:11
  a
• 10:11
  child
• 10:12
  changes
• 10:12
  you
• 10:13
  in
• 10:13
  some
• 10:13
  way
• 10:13
  because
• 10:14
  it
• 10:14
  gives
• 10:14
  your
• 10:14
  life
• 10:15
  a
• 10:15
  new
• 10:15
  perspective.
• 10:16
  But
• 10:16
  I
• 10:16
  hate
• 10:17
  this
• 10:17
  idea
• 10:17
  of
• 10:18
  that.
• 10:18
  Women,
• 10:19
  I
• 10:19
  don't
• 10:20
  know,
• 10:20
  transform
• 10:21
  into
• 10:21
  a
• 10:21
  completely
• 10:22
  different
• 10:23
  person
• 10:23
  just
• 10:24
  because
• 10:24
  they
• 10:24
  are
• 10:24
  a
• 10:25
  mother.
• 10:26
  So
• 10:26
  they
• 10:26
  are
• 10:27
  now,
• 10:28
  before
• 10:28
  they
• 10:28
  have
• 10:28
  been
• 10:29
  one
• 10:29
  of
• 10:29
  the
• 10:29
  most
• 10:29
  reliable
• 10:30
  people
• 10:30
  that
• 10:30
  I
• 10:31
  know,
• 10:31
  then
• 10:32
  they
• 10:32
  would
• 10:32
  just
• 10:32
  turn
• 10:32
  around
• 10:33
  completely
• 10:33
  and
• 10:34
  not
• 10:34
  be
• 10:34
  reliable
• 10:35
  at
• 10:35
  all,
• 10:35
  or
• 10:36
  not
• 10:36
  keep
• 10:36
  their
• 10:36
  promises
• 10:37
  or
• 10:37
  keep
• 10:38
  their.
• 10:38
  Their
• 10:38
  deadlines
• 10:39
  or
• 10:39
  whatever.
• 10:39
  I
• 10:40
  know,
• 10:40
  of
• 10:40
  course
• 10:40
  things
• 10:41
  can
• 10:41
  happen,
• 10:42
  especially
• 10:42
  when
• 10:42
  it
• 10:42
  comes
• 10:43
  to
• 10:43
  health
• 10:43
  or
• 10:43
  something,
• 10:43
  but
• 10:44
  if
• 10:44
  everything
• 10:44
  is
• 10:45
  working
• 10:45
  out
• 10:45
  fine,
• 10:46
  why
• 10:46
  should
• 10:46
  I
• 10:47
  consider
• 10:47
  that
• 10:48
  you
• 10:48
  would
• 10:48
  not
• 10:48
  keep
• 10:49
  to
• 10:49
  your
• 10:49
  plan?
• 10:50
  Because
• 10:50
  that
• 10:50
  was
• 10:50
  the
• 10:50
  plan.
• 10:51
  And
• 10:51
  we
• 10:51
  have
• 10:51
  always
• 10:52
  built
• 10:52
  our
• 10:52
  relationship
• 10:53
  on
• 10:53
  openness
• 10:54
  and
• 10:54
  transparency
• 10:55
  and
• 10:55
  reliability.
• 10:57
  So,
• 10:57
  of
• 10:57
  course,
• 10:58
  I.
• 10:58
  I
• 10:59
  was
• 10:59
  not
• 10:59
  surprised
• 11:00
  that
• 11:01
  you
• 11:01
  wrote
• 11:01
  me
• 11:02
  end
• 11:02
  of
• 11:02
  March,
• 11:02
  so
• 11:03
  next
• 11:03
  week
• 11:03
  I'm
• 11:03
  coming
• 11:03
  back,
• 11:04
  because
• 11:04
  that
• 11:04
  was
• 11:04
  our
• 11:04
  plan.
• 11:05
  And
• 11:06
  as
• 11:06
  thankfully
• 11:08
  your
• 11:08
  baby
• 11:08
  boy
• 11:08
  is
• 11:08
  healthy,
• 11:09
  everything
• 11:09
  is
• 11:09
  fine.
• 11:10
  There
• 11:10
  was
• 11:11
  no
• 11:11
  need
• 11:11
  to
• 11:12
  ever
• 11:12
  doubt
• 11:13
  you
• 11:13
  on
• 11:13
  that.
• 11:14
  So,
• 11:15
  yeah,
• 11:16
  come
• 11:16
  on.
• 11:17
  I
• 11:17
  think
• 11:17
  that's.
• 11:17
  That's
• 11:18
  quite
• 11:18
  important,
• 11:18
  to
• 11:19
  be
• 11:19
  very
• 11:19
  open
• 11:19
  upfront
• 11:20
  and
• 11:20
  this
• 11:21
  is,
• 11:21
  as
• 11:21
  you
• 11:22
  said,
• 11:22
  what
• 11:22
  we
• 11:22
  did
• 11:23
  before
• 11:23
  we
• 11:23
  built
• 11:24
  our
• 11:24
  company
• 11:24
  together
• 11:25
  to
• 11:25
  really
• 11:26
  put
• 11:26
  everything
• 11:27
  on
• 11:27
  the
• 11:27
  table
• 11:27
  and
• 11:28
  to
• 11:28
  say,
• 11:28
  like,
• 11:28
  okay,
• 11:28
  this
• 11:28
  is
• 11:29
  how
• 11:29
  I
• 11:29
  will
• 11:29
  evolve
• 11:30
  in
• 11:30
  the
• 11:30
  next
• 11:30
  five
• 11:30
  years.
• 11:31
  And
• 11:31
  you.
• 11:31
  And
• 11:32
  the
• 11:32
  good
• 11:32
  thing
• 11:32
  is,
• 11:33
  you
• 11:33
  know,
• 11:33
  and
• 11:33
  this
• 11:33
  is
• 11:34
  also
• 11:34
  what
• 11:34
  I
• 11:34
  realized
• 11:35
  when
• 11:35
  I
• 11:35
  was
• 11:35
  pregnant
• 11:36
  already,
• 11:37
  that
• 11:37
  you
• 11:38
  have
• 11:38
  also
• 11:38
  kids
• 11:39
  and
• 11:39
  that
• 11:39
  you
• 11:40
  have
• 11:40
  a
• 11:40
  much
• 11:41
  bigger
• 11:41
  understanding
• 11:42
  compared
• 11:42
  if
• 11:43
  you
• 11:43
  would
• 11:43
  be
• 11:43
  a
• 11:44
  man,
• 11:44
  for
• 11:44
  example.
• 11:45
  Right.
• 11:45
  Obviously.
• 11:46
  And
• 11:46
  that
• 11:47
  right
• 11:47
  now
• 11:47
  it's
• 11:48
  also,
• 11:48
  yeah,
• 11:49
  supportive
• 11:49
  and
• 11:50
  helpful
• 11:50
  because
• 11:51
  sometimes
• 11:51
  there
• 11:52
  are
• 11:52
  moments
• 11:52
  where
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  was
• 11:53
  in
• 11:54
  a
• 11:54
  conference
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  had
• 11:55
  some
• 11:55
  health
• 11:55
  issues
• 11:56
  and
• 11:56
  you
• 11:56
  supported
• 11:57
  me
• 11:57
  with
• 11:57
  like,
• 11:58
  hey,
• 11:58
  can
• 11:58
  you,
• 11:58
  like,
• 11:58
  go
• 11:58
  to
• 11:59
  the
• 11:59
  pharmacy?
• 12:00
  So.
• 12:01
  Or
• 12:01
  now
• 12:02
  when
• 12:02
  we
• 12:02
  sit
• 12:02
  in
• 12:02
  the
• 12:03
  car
• 12:03
  between
• 12:03
  one
• 12:04
  event
• 12:04
  and
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  other
• 12:05
  and
• 12:05
  I
• 12:05
  need
• 12:05
  to
• 12:05
  breast
• 12:06
  pump
• 12:07
  to,
• 12:07
  like,
• 12:07
  you
• 12:08
  know,
• 12:08
  it's
• 12:09
  like
• 12:09
  just
• 12:09
  another.
• 12:10
  Day
• 12:10
  at
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  office.
• 12:11
  It's
• 12:11
  much
• 12:11
  easier
• 12:12
  to
• 12:12
  share
• 12:12
  this
• 12:12
  with
• 12:12
  another
• 12:13
  women.
• 12:13
  And
• 12:14
  yeah,
• 12:14
  I'm.
• 12:15
  I'm
• 12:15
  just
• 12:15
  so
• 12:16
  happy
• 12:16
  that
• 12:16
  this
• 12:16
  is
• 12:17
  like
• 12:17
  both
• 12:17
  coming
• 12:18
  together.
• 12:18
  What
• 12:19
  I
• 12:19
  see
• 12:19
  also
• 12:19
  why
• 12:20
  we
• 12:20
  kept
• 12:21
  so
• 12:22
  quiet
• 12:22
  about
• 12:23
  my
• 12:23
  pregnancy
• 12:24
  is
• 12:24
  really
• 12:25
  the
• 12:25
  thing
• 12:25
  of,
• 12:25
  like,
• 12:26
  I
• 12:26
  had
• 12:26
  in
• 12:26
  the
• 12:26
  beginning
• 12:27
  of
• 12:27
  my
• 12:27
  pregnancy
• 12:28
  a
• 12:28
  experience
• 12:29
  with
• 12:30
  one
• 12:30
  of
• 12:30
  our
• 12:31
  coaches,
• 12:31
  which
• 12:32
  was
• 12:32
  quite
• 12:32
  bad
• 12:33
  because
• 12:33
  I
• 12:33
  was
• 12:34
  quite
• 12:34
  transparent
• 12:34
  about
• 12:35
  what's
• 12:35
  happening
• 12:35
  and
• 12:36
  that
• 12:36
  I'm
• 12:36
  completely
• 12:37
  overworked
• 12:38
  and
• 12:38
  I
• 12:38
  need
• 12:38
  to
• 12:39
  focus
• 12:40
  and
• 12:40
  like
• 12:40
  to
• 12:40
  cut
• 12:40
  down
• 12:41
  some
• 12:41
  things
• 12:42
  because
• 12:42
  otherwise
• 12:43
  it's
• 12:43
  not
• 12:43
  possible
• 12:44
  to
• 12:44
  prepare
• 12:45
  for
• 12:45
  leaving
• 12:46
  and
• 12:46
  to
• 12:46
  work
• 12:47
  still
• 12:47
  in
• 12:47
  the
• 12:47
  daily
• 12:48
  business
• 12:48
  and.
• 12:49
  And
• 12:49
  so
• 12:49
  on
• 12:50
  and
• 12:50
  being
• 12:50
  pregnant.
• 12:50
  So
• 12:51
  it
• 12:51
  takes
• 12:51
  time.
• 12:51
  It's
• 12:52
  like
• 12:52
  a
• 12:52
  job,
• 12:53
  like
• 12:53
  a
• 12:54
  side
• 12:54
  job.
• 12:54
  Would
• 12:55
  you
• 12:55
  like
• 12:55
  to
• 12:55
  share
• 12:55
  why
• 12:56
  we
• 12:56
  were
• 12:57
  reluctant
• 12:57
  to
• 12:58
  share
• 12:59
  your
• 12:59
  pregnancy?
• 13:00
  And
• 13:00
  they
• 13:01
  shared
• 13:01
  that
• 13:01
  really
• 13:02
  late
• 13:02
  and
• 13:02
  firstly,
• 13:03
  just
• 13:03
  in,
• 13:03
  you
• 13:03
  know,
• 13:04
  small
• 13:04
  circles
• 13:04
  and
• 13:05
  not
• 13:05
  openly.
• 13:06
  Yeah,
• 13:06
  well,
• 13:06
  to
• 13:07
  be
• 13:07
  honest,
• 13:07
  in
• 13:08
  the
• 13:08
  beginning,
• 13:08
  I
• 13:08
  was
• 13:08
  quite
• 13:09
  open
• 13:09
  about
• 13:09
  sharing
• 13:10
  it,
• 13:10
  especially
• 13:11
  with
• 13:11
  one
• 13:11
  of
• 13:11
  our
• 13:11
  coaches.
• 13:12
  And
• 13:13
  we're
• 13:13
  very
• 13:13
  open
• 13:13
  about
• 13:14
  like,
• 13:14
  okay,
• 13:15
  pregnancy
• 13:15
  is
• 13:15
  like
• 13:15
  a
• 13:16
  side
• 13:16
  job.
• 13:16
  And
• 13:16
  then
• 13:17
  you
• 13:17
  want
• 13:17
  to
• 13:18
  do
• 13:18
  a
• 13:18
  good
• 13:19
  handover.
• 13:19
  Oh,
• 13:20
  I
• 13:20
  moved
• 13:20
  houses
• 13:21
  in
• 13:21
  between
• 13:21
  as
• 13:21
  well,
• 13:22
  and
• 13:22
  I
• 13:22
  moved
• 13:23
  in
• 13:23
  together
• 13:23
  with
• 13:23
  my
• 13:23
  boyfriend
• 13:24
  and
• 13:24
  my
• 13:24
  maybe
• 13:25
  time
• 13:25
  if
• 13:26
  you're
• 13:26
  getting
• 13:26
  a
• 13:26
  baby.
• 13:27
  And.
• 13:28
  Yeah,
• 13:28
  and
• 13:28
  I
• 13:29
  want.
• 13:29
  I
• 13:30
  worked
• 13:30
  on
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  operational
• 13:31
  business.
• 13:31
  Right.
• 13:31
  So
• 13:32
  it
• 13:32
  was
• 13:32
  really
• 13:33
  tough
• 13:34
  in
• 13:34
  timing.
• 13:34
  And
• 13:35
  then
• 13:36
  that
• 13:36
  was
• 13:36
  really
• 13:36
  like,
• 13:36
  there
• 13:37
  was
• 13:37
  no
• 13:37
  understanding.
• 13:38
  And
• 13:39
  what
• 13:39
  I
• 13:39
  realized
• 13:40
  is
• 13:40
  that
• 13:40
  other
• 13:40
  mothers
• 13:41
  can
• 13:41
  much
• 13:42
  more
• 13:42
  relate
• 13:44
  than
• 13:44
  if
• 13:45
  people
• 13:45
  are
• 13:46
  not
• 13:46
  mothers
• 13:47
  yet.
• 13:47
  And
• 13:47
  now
• 13:48
  I
• 13:48
  can
• 13:48
  tell
• 13:48
  this
• 13:48
  because
• 13:49
  I'm
• 13:49
  a
• 13:49
  mother
• 13:50
  now
• 13:50
  too,
• 13:50
  luckily,
• 13:51
  but
• 13:52
  that
• 13:52
  was
• 13:52
  really
• 13:53
  a
• 13:53
  bad
• 13:53
  experience.
• 13:53
  And
• 13:54
  then
• 13:54
  we
• 13:55
  talk
• 13:55
  with
• 13:56
  our
• 13:56
  clients
• 13:57
  in
• 13:57
  person
• 13:57
  and
• 13:57
  told
• 13:58
  them,
• 13:58
  but
• 13:59
  at
• 13:59
  every
• 13:59
  event,
• 14:00
  we
• 14:00
  said
• 14:01
  to
• 14:01
  our
• 14:01
  photographer,
• 14:02
  like,
• 14:03
  okay,
• 14:03
  you're
• 14:04
  not
• 14:04
  allowed
• 14:04
  to
• 14:05
  show
• 14:05
  baby.
• 14:06
  Baby
• 14:06
  bumps,
• 14:07
  so
• 14:07
  take
• 14:08
  care.
• 14:08
  And
• 14:09
  that
• 14:09
  worked
• 14:09
  out
• 14:09
  quite
• 14:10
  well,
• 14:10
  yeah,.
• 14:10
  And
• 14:10
  it's
• 14:10
  also
• 14:11
  good
• 14:11
  that
• 14:11
  you
• 14:11
  always
• 14:12
  used
• 14:12
  to
• 14:13
  wear
• 14:14
  flowery
• 14:15
  dresses
• 14:15
  anyway.
• 14:16
  That
• 14:17
  was
• 14:17
  very
• 14:17
  good.
• 14:17
  There
• 14:18
  was
• 14:18
  no
• 14:18
  change,
• 14:18
  right?
• 14:19
  Yeah,
• 14:20
  now
• 14:20
  I
• 14:20
  still
• 14:20
  wear
• 14:20
  them,
• 14:20
  but.
• 14:21
  Hovering
• 14:21
  theme.
• 14:22
  Yeah.
• 14:22
  And.
• 14:23
  And
• 14:23
  then
• 14:24
  officially
• 14:24
  we
• 14:24
  announced
• 14:24
  it
• 14:25
  in
• 14:25
  November
• 14:25
  and
• 14:25
  the
• 14:26
  feedback
• 14:26
  was
• 14:27
  really
• 14:27
  quite
• 14:27
  positive.
• 14:28
  But
• 14:28
  in
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  end
• 14:29
  we
• 14:29
  also
• 14:29
  have
• 14:30
  to
• 14:30
  say
• 14:30
  that
• 14:30
  we
• 14:31
  are
• 14:31
  both
• 14:31
  personal
• 14:32
  brands,
• 14:32
  right.
• 14:33
  And
• 14:33
  our
• 14:34
  business
• 14:34
  is
• 14:35
  related
• 14:35
  to
• 14:35
  us
• 14:36
  as
• 14:36
  person.
• 14:37
  And
• 14:37
  yeah,
• 14:38
  this
• 14:38
  is
• 14:38
  what,
• 14:38
  what
• 14:39
  we
• 14:39
  somehow
• 14:40
  could
• 14:40
  see
• 14:41
  a
• 14:41
  bit,
• 14:42
  I
• 14:42
  think.
• 14:42
  And
• 14:43
  also
• 14:43
  who
• 14:44
  is
• 14:44
  doing
• 14:44
  which
• 14:44
  job?
• 14:45
  Because
• 14:46
  yeah,
• 14:46
  if
• 14:46
  you
• 14:47
  don't
• 14:47
  know,
• 14:47
  for
• 14:47
  example,
• 14:48
  Ingrid
• 14:48
  is
• 14:48
  doing
• 14:48
  all
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  newsletters,
• 14:50
  LinkedIn
• 14:50
  posts,
• 14:51
  et
• 14:51
  cetera.
• 14:51
  So
• 14:51
  everything
• 14:52
  was
• 14:53
  content
• 14:53
  wise.
• 14:54
  Strategy,
• 14:55
  storytelling,
• 14:56
  news,
• 14:56
  figures,
• 14:57
  everything
• 14:57
  else.
• 14:58
  Like
• 14:58
  my
• 14:58
  LinkedIn.
• 14:59
  My
• 14:59
  LinkedIn
• 15:00
  posts
• 15:00
  were
• 15:00
  perfectly
• 15:01
  done
• 15:01
  because
• 15:01
  I
• 15:02
  knew
• 15:02
  Ingrid's.
• 15:03
  That's
• 15:03
  Ingrid's
• 15:03
  turf,
• 15:04
  right?
• 15:04
  But
• 15:04
  sales
• 15:05
  or
• 15:06
  finance
• 15:07
  or
• 15:08
  I
• 15:08
  don't
• 15:08
  know,
• 15:09
  some
• 15:09
  like
• 15:09
  networking
• 15:10
  with
• 15:10
  people,
• 15:11
  this
• 15:11
  is
• 15:11
  really
• 15:11
  like
• 15:12
  my
• 15:12
  turf.
• 15:12
  And
• 15:13
  I
• 15:13
  really
• 15:13
  tried
• 15:13
  to
• 15:14
  hand
• 15:14
  over
• 15:14
  Ingrid
• 15:15
  everything
• 15:15
  as
• 15:15
  possible.
• 15:16
  And
• 15:16
  she
• 15:17
  needed
• 15:17
  to
• 15:17
  go
• 15:17
  to
• 15:17
  the
• 15:17
  Berlin
• 15:18
  conference
• 15:18
  alone.
• 15:19
  And
• 15:19
  I
• 15:19
  was
• 15:19
  like,
• 15:21
  I
• 15:21
  would
• 15:21
  love
• 15:21
  to
• 15:21
  go
• 15:21
  as
• 15:22
  well,
• 15:22
  but
• 15:22
  it
• 15:22
  really
• 15:22
  was
• 15:22
  not
• 15:23
  possible.
• 15:24
  And
• 15:24
  then
• 15:24
  she
• 15:25
  was
• 15:25
  like,
• 15:26
  do
• 15:26
  I
• 15:26
  really
• 15:26
  have
• 15:26
  to
• 15:27
  ask
• 15:27
  them
• 15:27
  if
• 15:28
  the
• 15:28
  dog
• 15:29
  is
• 15:29
  okay
• 15:29
  of
• 15:29
  this
• 15:30
  person?
• 15:30
  I
• 15:30
  was
• 15:30
  like,
• 15:31
  that
• 15:31
  is
• 15:32
  just,
• 15:32
  you.
• 15:32
  Know,
• 15:32
  that
• 15:32
  is
• 15:33
  one
• 15:33
  of
• 15:33
  the
• 15:33
  stories
• 15:33
  that
• 15:33
  Valerie
• 15:34
  likes
• 15:34
  to
• 15:34
  share.
• 15:34
  Because
• 15:35
  this.
• 15:35
  Yeah,
• 15:35
  that
• 15:35
  is
• 15:36
  true.
• 15:36
  I'm
• 15:37
  not,
• 15:37
  I'm
• 15:37
  not
• 15:38
  a
• 15:38
  natural
• 15:38
  networker.
• 15:39
  I'm
• 15:39
  a
• 15:39
  learned
• 15:40
  networker.
• 15:40
  So
• 15:40
  by
• 15:40
  now
• 15:41
  I
• 15:41
  know
• 15:41
  how
• 15:41
  to
• 15:41
  do
• 15:41
  it.
• 15:41
  But
• 15:42
  I
• 15:42
  still
• 15:42
  connect
• 15:42
  with
• 15:43
  people
• 15:43
  mostly
• 15:44
  through
• 15:44
  hard
• 15:44
  facts,
• 15:45
  you
• 15:45
  know.
• 15:45
  Did
• 15:45
  you
• 15:46
  know
• 15:46
  that?
• 15:46
  Have
• 15:46
  you
• 15:47
  read
• 15:47
  about
• 15:47
  this?
• 15:48
  There's
• 15:48
  some
• 15:49
  interesting
• 15:49
  tidbit
• 15:50
  that
• 15:50
  I
• 15:50
  learned
• 15:50
  that
• 15:50
  I
• 15:50
  want
• 15:51
  to
• 15:51
  share
• 15:51
  with
• 15:51
  you.
• 15:51
  Stuff
• 15:52
  like
• 15:52
  that.
• 15:52
  So
• 15:52
  factual
• 15:53
  based.
• 15:53
  The
• 15:54
  journalist
• 15:54
  conversation,
• 15:55
  I
• 15:55
  would
• 15:55
  say
• 15:56
  in.
• 15:56
  A
• 15:56
  way,
• 15:57
  in
• 15:57
  a
• 15:57
  way
• 15:57
  more
• 15:58
  manly,
• 15:58
  if
• 15:58
  you
• 15:58
  want
• 15:58
  to
• 15:58
  say.
• 15:59
  So
• 15:59
  put
• 15:59
  it
• 16:00
  like
• 16:00
  this.
• 16:01
  But
• 16:01
  of
• 16:01
  course
• 16:02
  there
• 16:02
  is
• 16:02
  a
• 16:03
  very
• 16:03
  personal
• 16:04
  area
• 16:05
  that
• 16:05
  you
• 16:05
  also
• 16:06
  need,
• 16:06
  especially
• 16:06
  if
• 16:07
  you're
• 16:07
  in
• 16:07
  this
• 16:07
  business
• 16:08
  where
• 16:08
  you
• 16:08
  are
• 16:08
  where
• 16:09
  people
• 16:09
  are
• 16:09
  connecting
• 16:10
  with
• 16:10
  us
• 16:10
  because
• 16:10
  they
• 16:10
  believe
• 16:11
  in
• 16:11
  us
• 16:11
  as
• 16:12
  persons
• 16:12
  and
• 16:12
  our
• 16:13
  personal
• 16:13
  brands.
• 16:14
  There
• 16:15
  is
• 16:15
  a
• 16:15
  lot
• 16:15
  more
• 16:16
  of
• 16:16
  that
• 16:16
  going
• 16:17
  on.
• 16:17
  So
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  think
• 16:18
  the
• 16:18
  dog
• 16:19
  story
• 16:19
  came
• 16:19
  up
• 16:19
  and
• 16:19
  I
• 16:20
  was
• 16:20
  at
• 16:20
  one
• 16:20
  time
• 16:22
  sending
• 16:22
  you
• 16:23
  a
• 16:23
  voice
• 16:23
  message.
• 16:24
  It
• 16:24
  was
• 16:24
  like,
• 16:25
  I
• 16:25
  have
• 16:25
  to
• 16:25
  rent
• 16:26
  now
• 16:26
  because
• 16:27
  sales
• 16:27
  is
• 16:28
  exhausting.
• 16:29
  It's
• 16:30
  exhausting.
• 16:30
  People
• 16:31
  want
• 16:31
  to
• 16:31
  talk
• 16:32
  all
• 16:32
  the
• 16:32
  time
• 16:33
  about
• 16:33
  things
• 16:34
  that
• 16:34
  are
• 16:34
  not
• 16:34
  related
• 16:35
  to
• 16:35
  business
• 16:35
  and
• 16:35
  it
• 16:36
  fucks
• 16:36
  me
• 16:37
  up.
• 16:37
  It's
• 16:38
  like,
• 16:38
  come
• 16:38
  on,
• 16:38
  can
• 16:39
  we
• 16:39
  just,
• 16:39
  you
• 16:40
  know,
• 16:40
  go
• 16:40
  back
• 16:40
  to
• 16:40
  business?
• 16:41
  No,
• 16:41
  first
• 16:41
  we
• 16:42
  have
• 16:42
  to
• 16:42
  talk
• 16:42
  about
• 16:42
  this
• 16:43
  and
• 16:43
  then
• 16:43
  we
• 16:43
  have
• 16:43
  to
• 16:43
  talk
• 16:44
  about
• 16:44
  that
• 16:44
  and
• 16:44
  then,
• 16:45
  yeah,
• 16:45
  whatever.
• 16:46
  And
• 16:46
  then
• 16:47
  you
• 16:47
  have
• 16:47
  to
• 16:47
  retalk
• 16:48
  and
• 16:48
  have
• 16:48
  to
• 16:48
  find
• 16:48
  another
• 16:49
  talk.
• 16:50
  Is
• 16:50
  like,
• 16:50
  come
• 16:50
  on,
• 16:51
  this
• 16:51
  is
• 16:51
  such
• 16:51
  a
• 16:52
  long
• 16:52
  process.
• 16:53
  And
• 16:53
  yeah,
• 16:53
  but
• 16:54
  it's
• 16:54
  not
• 16:54
  a
• 16:55
  real
• 16:55
  process.
• 16:55
  You
• 16:55
  know,
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  thing
• 16:56
  is
• 16:56
  like,
• 16:57
  for
• 16:57
  me,
• 16:57
  it's
• 16:57
  much
• 16:58
  about
• 16:58
  relationship
• 16:59
  and
• 16:59
  the
• 17:00
  people
• 17:00
  I
• 17:01
  connect
• 17:01
  to
• 17:02
  is
• 17:02
  really.
• 17:02
  Because
• 17:02
  I
• 17:03
  like
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  people
• 17:04
  and
• 17:04
  the
• 17:04
  person
• 17:05
  itself
• 17:06
  and
• 17:06
  I'm
• 17:06
  interested
• 17:06
  in
• 17:07
  that.
• 17:07
  And
• 17:07
  so
• 17:08
  I'm
• 17:08
  connected
• 17:08
  with
• 17:09
  some
• 17:09
  of
• 17:09
  you
• 17:09
  on
• 17:10
  WhatsApp
• 17:10
  or
• 17:11
  I
• 17:11
  don't
• 17:11
  know,
• 17:11
  like
• 17:12
  Instagram,
• 17:13
  et
• 17:13
  cetera.
• 17:13
  You
• 17:13
  don't
• 17:14
  even
• 17:14
  have
• 17:14
  Instagram.
• 17:15
  And
• 17:15
  I
• 17:16
  was
• 17:16
  with
• 17:16
  my
• 17:16
  baby
• 17:17
  boy
• 17:17
  like
• 17:18
  garter
• 17:19
  in
• 17:19
  March.
• 17:20
  And
• 17:20
  then
• 17:20
  I
• 17:20
  realized
• 17:21
  one
• 17:21
  of
• 17:21
  our
• 17:22
  close
• 17:23
  clients,
• 17:24
  Lisa
• 17:25
  from
• 17:25
  ebay,
• 17:26
  she's
• 17:27
  also
• 17:27
  around
• 17:27
  Italy
• 17:28
  doing
• 17:29
  a
• 17:29
  road
• 17:29
  trip.
• 17:29
  And
• 17:29
  then
• 17:30
  we
• 17:30
  were
• 17:30
  like,
• 17:30
  hey,
• 17:31
  I'm
• 17:31
  here.
• 17:31
  And
• 17:31
  she
• 17:31
  was
• 17:31
  like,
• 17:32
  yeah,
• 17:32
  we
• 17:32
  are
• 17:32
  there.
• 17:32
  And
• 17:32
  we
• 17:32
  are
• 17:33
  like
• 17:33
  coming,
• 17:33
  let's
• 17:34
  meet.
• 17:34
  And
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  was
• 17:34
  like,
• 17:34
  sure,
• 17:34
  let's
• 17:35
  meet.
• 17:35
  Foreign
• 17:35
  coffee
• 17:35
  and
• 17:35
  ice
• 17:36
  cream.
• 17:36
  And
• 17:36
  that's
• 17:36
  what
• 17:37
  we
• 17:37
  did.
• 17:37
  Right.
• 17:38
  So
• 17:38
  she
• 17:38
  came
• 17:39
  by,
• 17:39
  we
• 17:39
  had
• 17:40
  a
• 17:40
  coffee,
• 17:40
  they
• 17:41
  met
• 17:41
  my
• 17:41
  baby
• 17:42
  boy
• 17:42
  and
• 17:42
  I
• 17:43
  met
• 17:43
  her
• 17:43
  boyfriend.
• 17:43
  Was
• 17:44
  really
• 17:44
  nice
• 17:44
  for,
• 17:45
  I
• 17:45
  don't
• 17:45
  know,
• 17:45
  two,
• 17:46
  three
• 17:46
  hours
• 17:47
  and
• 17:47
  then
• 17:47
  that's
• 17:48
  fine.
• 17:48
  And
• 17:49
  I
• 17:49
  thought
• 17:49
  about
• 17:49
  you,
• 17:50
  you.
• 17:50
  And
• 17:50
  you
• 17:50
  were
• 17:50
  like,
• 17:51
  what?
• 17:51
  How
• 17:52
  on
• 17:52
  earth
• 17:52
  would
• 17:52
  I
• 17:52
  meet
• 17:53
  someone
• 17:53
  from
• 17:54
  my
• 17:54
  business
• 17:54
  life
• 17:54
  in
• 17:55
  my
• 17:55
  private
• 17:55
  home?
• 17:55
  No,
• 17:56
  because,
• 17:56
  you
• 17:56
  know,
• 17:56
  I
• 17:56
  like
• 17:57
  people
• 17:57
  from
• 17:57
  the
• 17:58
  business,
• 17:58
  don't
• 17:58
  get
• 17:58
  me
• 17:58
  wrong.
• 17:59
  But
• 17:59
  in
• 17:59
  the
• 17:59
  business,
• 18:00
  very,
• 18:00
  very
• 18:00
  good.
• 18:01
  I
• 18:01
  have
• 18:01
  very,
• 18:01
  very
• 18:02
  nice
• 18:02
  relationships
• 18:03
  with
• 18:03
  people
• 18:04
  that.
• 18:04
  From.
• 18:04
  From
• 18:05
  our
• 18:05
  business,
• 18:06
  from
• 18:06
  the
• 18:06
  industry.
• 18:07
  And
• 18:07
  I
• 18:07
  like
• 18:08
  meeting
• 18:08
  them
• 18:08
  at
• 18:09
  business
• 18:09
  events
• 18:09
  and
• 18:10
  I
• 18:10
  like
• 18:10
  meeting
• 18:10
  at
• 18:11
  business
• 18:11
  conferences
• 18:12
  and
• 18:12
  talk
• 18:12
  about
• 18:13
  business.
• 18:13
  You
• 18:13
  know,
• 18:14
  that's
• 18:14
  fine.
• 18:14
  I
• 18:14
  like
• 18:15
  that.
• 18:15
  But
• 18:16
  if
• 18:16
  I
• 18:16
  would
• 18:16
  meet
• 18:16
  any
• 18:16
  one
• 18:17
  of
• 18:17
  them
• 18:17
  in
• 18:18
  a
• 18:18
  holiday
• 18:18
  context,
• 18:19
  I
• 18:19
  think
• 18:19
  I
• 18:19
  would
• 18:19
  turn
• 18:20
  the
• 18:20
  other
• 18:20
  way.
• 18:20
  That
• 18:21
  is
• 18:21
  just.
• 18:22
  Yeah.
• 18:22
  Because
• 18:22
  I'm
• 18:23
  so
• 18:23
  focused
• 18:23
  on
• 18:23
  that
• 18:24
  side
• 18:24
  and
• 18:24
  which
• 18:24
  is
• 18:25
  really
• 18:25
  helpful
• 18:25
  if
• 18:26
  you
• 18:26
  are
• 18:26
  focused
• 18:26
  on
• 18:27
  content
• 18:27
  and
• 18:27
  news
• 18:28
  and
• 18:28
  stuff
• 18:28
  like
• 18:28
  that.
• 18:29
  Not
• 18:29
  so
• 18:29
  helpful
• 18:30
  if
• 18:30
  you're
• 18:30
  focused
• 18:30
  on
• 18:31
  relationship
• 18:32
  that
• 18:33
  are
• 18:33
  building
• 18:33
  up
• 18:33
  to
• 18:34
  sales.
• 18:34
  So
• 18:35
  yeah.
• 18:35
  But
• 18:35
  anyway,
• 18:35
  I.
• 18:36
  I
• 18:36
  did
• 18:36
  manage
• 18:37
  over
• 18:37
  the
• 18:37
  time,
• 18:37
  but
• 18:38
  I
• 18:38
  realized,
• 18:39
  you
• 18:39
  know,
• 18:39
  when
• 18:39
  people
• 18:40
  always
• 18:40
  talk
• 18:40
  about
• 18:41
  you
• 18:41
  have
• 18:41
  to
• 18:41
  move
• 18:42
  outside
• 18:42
  of
• 18:42
  your
• 18:42
  comfort
• 18:43
  zone
• 18:43
  because
• 18:44
  growth
• 18:44
  only
• 18:45
  happens
• 18:45
  outside
• 18:45
  of
• 18:46
  your
• 18:46
  comfort
• 18:46
  zone.
• 18:47
  That's
• 18:47
  true.
• 18:49
  You
• 18:49
  don't
• 18:49
  have
• 18:50
  to
• 18:50
  like
• 18:50
  everything
• 18:51
  that
• 18:51
  is
• 18:51
  happening
• 18:52
  outside
• 18:52
  your
• 18:52
  comfort
• 18:53
  zone.
• 18:54
  Not
• 18:54
  everything
• 18:55
  that
• 18:55
  is
• 18:55
  happening
• 18:55
  there
• 18:56
  is
• 18:56
  nice.
• 18:57
  Comfort
• 18:57
  zone
• 18:58
  is
• 18:58
  also
• 18:58
  nice.
• 18:59
  So.
• 19:00
  Yeah,
• 19:00
  yeah.
• 19:01
  So
• 19:01
  of
• 19:01
  course
• 19:01
  I
• 19:02
  now
• 19:02
  know
• 19:02
  I
• 19:02
  can
• 19:03
  do
• 19:03
  it
• 19:03
  for
• 19:03
  a
• 19:03
  while.
• 19:04
  I
• 19:04
  can
• 19:04
  learn,
• 19:05
  I
• 19:05
  can
• 19:05
  grow,
• 19:05
  I
• 19:06
  can
• 19:06
  acquire
• 19:07
  new
• 19:07
  skills.
• 19:08
  But
• 19:08
  still
• 19:09
  they
• 19:09
  are
• 19:09
  required,
• 19:10
  they
• 19:10
  are
• 19:10
  not
• 19:10
  natural.
• 19:11
  And
• 19:11
  we
• 19:12
  both
• 19:12
  work
• 19:13
  best
• 19:13
  together
• 19:13
  if
• 19:14
  each
• 19:14
  of
• 19:14
  us
• 19:14
  does
• 19:15
  that.
• 19:15
  Where
• 19:15
  she
• 19:16
  is
• 19:16
  a
• 19:16
  natural.
• 19:17
  True.
• 19:18
  And
• 19:18
  I
• 19:18
  think
• 19:19
  also
• 19:19
  growth
• 19:19
  is
• 19:20
  often
• 19:20
  painful.
• 19:20
  In
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  beginning.
• 19:23
  Still.
• 19:23
  Yes.
• 19:24
  It's
• 19:24
  this,
• 19:25
  like,
• 19:25
  pain
• 19:25
  of
• 19:26
  growth
• 19:26
  where
• 19:26
  you
• 19:26
  think
• 19:27
  like,
• 19:27
  oh,
• 19:27
  this
• 19:27
  is
• 19:27
  so
• 19:28
  exhausting
• 19:28
  and
• 19:28
  it
• 19:29
  annoys
• 19:29
  me
• 19:29
  and
• 19:30
  it
• 19:30
  frustrates
• 19:30
  me
• 19:31
  sometimes
• 19:31
  and.
• 19:32
  Yeah.
• 19:33
  But
• 19:33
  now
• 19:33
  I'm
• 19:34
  back.
• 19:34
  And
• 19:34
  I
• 19:35
  think
• 19:35
  you're
• 19:35
  quite
• 19:35
  happy
• 19:35
  that
• 19:36
  I
• 19:36
  took
• 19:36
  back
• 19:36
  some
• 19:37
  topics,
• 19:38
  like
• 19:38
  sales
• 19:39
  or
• 19:40
  making
• 19:40
  offers,
• 19:41
  writing
• 19:42
  invoices.
• 19:43
  If
• 19:43
  Ingrid
• 19:43
  would
• 19:44
  do
• 19:44
  the
• 19:44
  business,
• 19:45
  you
• 19:45
  would
• 19:45
  never
• 19:45
  write
• 19:46
  invoices.
• 19:46
  So
• 19:46
  maybe
• 19:46
  you
• 19:47
  are
• 19:47
  happy
• 19:47
  if
• 19:47
  I
• 19:47
  don't
• 19:48
  come
• 19:48
  back.
• 19:48
  Write
• 19:48
  a
• 19:49
  few
• 19:49
  invoices
• 19:50
  during
• 19:50
  the
• 19:50
  time
• 19:50
  that
• 19:51
  when
• 19:51
  you
• 19:51
  were
• 19:51
  away.
• 19:51
  I
• 19:52
  did
• 19:52
  write
• 19:52
  a
• 19:52
  few.
• 19:53
  Not
• 19:54
  as
• 19:54
  many
• 19:54
  as
• 19:55
  you
• 19:55
  would
• 19:55
  have,
• 19:56
  I
• 19:56
  think,
• 19:56
  but
• 19:57
  I
• 19:57
  did.
• 19:58
  I
• 19:58
  did.
• 19:58
  I
• 19:59
  also
• 19:59
  fixed
• 19:59
  a
• 19:59
  few
• 19:59
  offers.
• 20:00
  That's
• 20:00
  fine.
• 20:00
  As
• 20:01
  I
• 20:01
  said,
• 20:01
  I
• 20:01
  can
• 20:01
  manage.
• 20:02
  It's
• 20:03
  not
• 20:03
  fun,
• 20:03
  but
• 20:03
  I
• 20:03
  can.
• 20:04
  Yeah.
• 20:04
  But
• 20:05
  to
• 20:05
  be
• 20:05
  honest,
• 20:06
  if
• 20:06
  you
• 20:07
  have
• 20:07
  to
• 20:07
  get
• 20:08
  out
• 20:08
  of
• 20:08
  your
• 20:08
  comfort
• 20:08
  zone
• 20:09
  every
• 20:09
  time,
• 20:09
  then
• 20:10
  you
• 20:10
  have
• 20:10
  less
• 20:10
  time
• 20:11
  for
• 20:11
  the
• 20:11
  things
• 20:11
  you're.
• 20:12
  You're
• 20:12
  really
• 20:12
  good
• 20:12
  at.
• 20:13
  Yes,
• 20:13
  it's
• 20:13
  exhausting.
• 20:14
  It's
• 20:14
  just,
• 20:14
  it's.
• 20:14
  It's.
• 20:15
  It's
• 20:15
  more
• 20:15
  time
• 20:16
  consuming
• 20:16
  because
• 20:16
  you
• 20:17
  have
• 20:17
  to
• 20:17
  put
• 20:17
  a
• 20:17
  lot
• 20:17
  more
• 20:18
  effort
• 20:18
  into
• 20:18
  it
• 20:19
  than
• 20:19
  into
• 20:19
  things
• 20:20
  that
• 20:20
  flow
• 20:20
  naturally.
• 20:21
  So
• 20:21
  it
• 20:21
  takes
• 20:22
  a
• 20:22
  lot
• 20:22
  of
• 20:22
  time.
• 20:22
  And
• 20:23
  that
• 20:23
  is
• 20:23
  where
• 20:23
  our
• 20:24
  team
• 20:24
  really
• 20:24
  came
• 20:24
  in,
• 20:25
  because
• 20:25
  I
• 20:26
  had
• 20:26
  to
• 20:26
  pull
• 20:27
  away
• 20:27
  from
• 20:28
  the
• 20:28
  stuff
• 20:28
  that
• 20:28
  I
• 20:28
  normally
• 20:29
  do,
• 20:30
  which
• 20:30
  is
• 20:30
  more
• 20:30
  in
• 20:30
  my
• 20:31
  comfort
• 20:31
  zone,
• 20:31
  because
• 20:32
  I
• 20:32
  had
• 20:32
  to
• 20:33
  use
• 20:33
  the
• 20:33
  energy
• 20:33
  for
• 20:34
  the
• 20:34
  things
• 20:34
  that
• 20:34
  are
• 20:35
  not
• 20:35
  in
• 20:35
  my
• 20:35
  comfort
• 20:35
  zone.
• 20:36
  So
• 20:36
  that
• 20:36
  is
• 20:36
  where
• 20:37
  our
• 20:37
  team
• 20:37
  stepped
• 20:37
  in.
• 20:38
  And
• 20:38
  our
• 20:39
  editors
• 20:39
  and
• 20:39
  graphic
• 20:40
  designers
• 20:41
  and
• 20:43
  the
• 20:43
  ladies
• 20:44
  in
• 20:44
  the
• 20:44
  background
• 20:44
  that
• 20:45
  you
• 20:45
  don't
• 20:45
  see
• 20:46
  really
• 20:46
  helped
• 20:46
  us
• 20:46
  out
• 20:47
  and
• 20:47
  stepped
• 20:47
  up
• 20:48
  marvelously,
• 20:49
  really,
• 20:49
  and
• 20:50
  helped
• 20:50
  out
• 20:50
  again.
• 20:51
  We
• 20:51
  always
• 20:52
  took
• 20:52
  them
• 20:52
  into
• 20:52
  the
• 20:52
  boat.
• 20:53
  We
• 20:53
  always
• 20:53
  said,
• 20:53
  okay,
• 20:54
  this
• 20:54
  is
• 20:54
  going
• 20:54
  to
• 20:54
  happen,
• 20:54
  and
• 20:55
  this
• 20:55
  is
• 20:55
  what
• 20:55
  we
• 20:55
  need
• 20:55
  you
• 20:56
  to
• 20:56
  do.
• 20:56
  We've
• 20:57
  been
• 20:57
  very
• 20:57
  open
• 20:57
  and
• 20:57
  transparent
• 20:58
  about
• 20:58
  that
• 20:58
  in
• 20:59
  the
• 20:59
  months
• 20:59
  before,
• 21:00
  and
• 21:00
  that
• 21:00
  really
• 21:01
  helped,
• 21:02
  I
• 21:02
  think.
• 21:02
  Yeah.
• 21:02
  And
• 21:03
  there
• 21:03
  were
• 21:03
  also
• 21:03
  additional
• 21:04
  changes.
• 21:05
  Right.
• 21:05
  Like,
• 21:05
  we
• 21:05
  had
• 21:06
  a
• 21:06
  new
• 21:06
  team
• 21:06
  member
• 21:07
  as
• 21:07
  well
• 21:07
  in
• 21:07
  January.
• 21:08
  From
• 21:08
  January
• 21:08
  onwards,
• 21:10
  then
• 21:10
  the
• 21:10
  LinkedIn
• 21:10
  algorithm
• 21:11
  changed,
• 21:12
  which
• 21:12
  is
• 21:12
  also
• 21:13
  challenging.
• 21:15
  Yeah.
• 21:16
  So
• 21:17
  so
• 21:17
  many
• 21:17
  things
• 21:17
  happening
• 21:18
  at
• 21:18
  the
• 21:18
  same
• 21:18
  time
• 21:19
  where
• 21:19
  you
• 21:19
  need
• 21:19
  to
• 21:19
  adjust
• 21:20
  fast.
• 21:20
  And
• 21:21
  I
• 21:21
  think
• 21:21
  we
• 21:21
  did
• 21:21
  it
• 21:22
  really
• 21:22
  well.
• 21:23
  Now,
• 21:23
  as
• 21:23
  I
• 21:24
  said,
• 21:24
  I'm
• 21:24
  back.
• 21:25
  And
• 21:25
  what
• 21:26
  are
• 21:26
  we,
• 21:26
  like,
• 21:27
  focusing
• 21:28
  on
• 21:28
  right
• 21:28
  now?
• 21:30
  Well,
• 21:31
  at
• 21:32
  the
• 21:32
  moment,
• 21:32
  I
• 21:32
  think
• 21:32
  we
• 21:33
  are
• 21:33
  looking
• 21:33
  forward,
• 21:34
  planning
• 21:35
  the
• 21:35
  year,
• 21:35
  especially
• 21:36
  our
• 21:37
  events
• 21:38
  that
• 21:38
  are
• 21:38
  coming
• 21:38
  up
• 21:38
  and
• 21:39
  the
• 21:39
  next
• 21:39
  events.
• 21:39
  And
• 21:39
  we
• 21:40
  are
• 21:40
  also,
• 21:40
  as
• 21:40
  you
• 21:40
  said,
• 21:41
  adjusting
• 21:42
  to
• 21:42
  a
• 21:42
  new
• 21:43
  schedule
• 21:44
  for
• 21:45
  traveling.
• 21:48
  Yeah.
• 21:48
  Probably
• 21:49
  won't
• 21:49
  be
• 21:49
  at
• 21:50
  as
• 21:50
  many
• 21:51
  events
• 21:52
  together
• 21:53
  as
• 21:53
  we
• 21:53
  were
• 21:53
  maybe
• 21:54
  last
• 21:54
  year,
• 21:54
  so
• 21:55
  we
• 21:55
  are
• 21:55
  spreading
• 21:55
  that
• 21:55
  out
• 21:55
  a
• 21:56
  little
• 21:56
  bit
• 21:56
  more.
• 21:56
  But
• 21:57
  we
• 21:57
  still
• 21:57
  want
• 21:57
  to
• 21:57
  be
• 21:58
  present
• 21:58
  with
• 21:58
  Marketplace
• 21:59
  Universe.
• 21:59
  So
• 22:00
  we
• 22:00
  are
• 22:00
  Working
• 22:00
  on
• 22:01
  that,
• 22:01
  working
• 22:01
  on
• 22:03
  having
• 22:04
  more
• 22:05
  connect
• 22:05
  events,
• 22:06
  having
• 22:06
  more
• 22:06
  speed
• 22:06
  connect.
• 22:07
  So
• 22:07
  that
• 22:07
  is
• 22:08
  everything
• 22:08
  that
• 22:09
  is
• 22:09
  going
• 22:09
  on
• 22:09
  in
• 22:09
  there
• 22:10
  is
• 22:10
  on
• 22:10
  your
• 22:10
  desk
• 22:11
  normally.
• 22:11
  So
• 22:11
  that
• 22:12
  was
• 22:12
  more
• 22:13
  or
• 22:13
  less
• 22:13
  on
• 22:13
  hold
• 22:14
  over
• 22:14
  the
• 22:14
  last
• 22:14
  month
• 22:14
  because
• 22:15
  event
• 22:15
  planning
• 22:15
  is
• 22:16
  a
• 22:16
  totally
• 22:16
  different
• 22:16
  beast.
• 22:17
  That
• 22:17
  is
• 22:17
  something
• 22:17
  that
• 22:17
  I
• 22:18
  could
• 22:18
  not
• 22:18
  have
• 22:18
  shouldered
• 22:19
  additionally.
• 22:20
  But
• 22:21
  to
• 22:21
  be
• 22:21
  fair,
• 22:22
  over
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  winter
• 22:23
  not
• 22:23
  much
• 22:23
  is
• 22:23
  happening
• 22:24
  in
• 22:24
  that
• 22:24
  area
• 22:24
  anyway.
• 22:25
  So,
• 22:25
  yeah,
• 22:26
  that's
• 22:26
  why
• 22:26
  we're
• 22:26
  starting.
• 22:27
  So,
• 22:28
  yeah,
• 22:28
  you're
• 22:28
  happy
• 22:29
  to
• 22:29
  get
• 22:29
  back
• 22:29
  into
• 22:29
  the
• 22:30
  events
• 22:30
  business?
• 22:32
  Yeah,
• 22:33
  I
• 22:33
  really
• 22:33
  love
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  event
• 22:34
  business.
• 22:35
  And
• 22:35
  also
• 22:36
  going
• 22:36
  back
• 22:36
  to
• 22:37
  conferences
• 22:38
  next
• 22:38
  week
• 22:39
  is
• 22:40
  the
• 22:40
  ECD
• 22:40
  from
• 22:41
  tripart
• 22:41
  in
• 22:41
  Munich.
• 22:42
  So,
• 22:43
  yeah,
• 22:44
  if
• 22:44
  you're
• 22:44
  there,
• 22:45
  just
• 22:45
  come
• 22:45
  up
• 22:45
  to
• 22:45
  me,
• 22:46
  let's
• 22:46
  talk.
• 22:46
  Yeah,
• 22:47
  I
• 22:48
  think
• 22:48
  for
• 22:48
  me
• 22:48
  changed
• 22:49
  a
• 22:49
  bit
• 22:49
  in
• 22:50
  terms
• 22:50
  of
• 22:50
  like
• 22:50
  logistics.
• 22:51
  So
• 22:52
  how
• 22:52
  do
• 22:52
  I
• 22:53
  squeeze
• 22:54
  in
• 22:54
  the
• 22:54
  time
• 22:55
  for
• 22:55
  nursing
• 22:55
  my
• 22:56
  baby?
• 22:56
  And
• 22:57
  also
• 22:57
  how
• 22:58
  do
• 22:58
  I
• 22:58
  do
• 22:58
  the
• 22:58
  logistics
• 22:59
  when
• 22:59
  I'm
• 22:59
  away,
• 23:00
  like
• 23:00
  two
• 23:01
  nights
• 23:01
  away,
• 23:02
  for
• 23:02
  example,
• 23:02
  while
• 23:03
  K5
• 23:04
  in
• 23:04
  Berlin,
• 23:04
  et
• 23:05
  cetera.
• 23:05
  So,
• 23:06
  yeah,
• 23:06
  it
• 23:07
  will
• 23:07
  work
• 23:07
  out
• 23:07
  somehow.
• 23:08
  The
• 23:08
  boys
• 23:08
  are
• 23:09
  making
• 23:09
  it.
• 23:09
  So
• 23:10
  I'm
• 23:10
  happy
• 23:10
  to
• 23:10
  have
• 23:11
  a
• 23:11
  good
• 23:11
  dad
• 23:12
  for
• 23:12
  the
• 23:12
  baby
• 23:12
  boy
• 23:13
  who
• 23:13
  has
• 23:13
  parental
• 23:14
  leave
• 23:14
  because
• 23:15
  this
• 23:15
  is
• 23:16
  what
• 23:16
  was
• 23:16
  really
• 23:17
  difficult
• 23:17
  in
• 23:17
  Germany.
• 23:18
  If
• 23:18
  you
• 23:18
  have
• 23:19
  your
• 23:19
  own
• 23:19
  company.
• 23:20
  You
• 23:20
  are
• 23:21
  kind
• 23:21
  of
• 23:21
  fucked
• 23:22
  as
• 23:22
  a
• 23:22
  woman
• 23:22
  who's
• 23:23
  getting
• 23:23
  a
• 23:23
  baby,
• 23:24
  to
• 23:24
  be
• 23:24
  very
• 23:24
  honest,
• 23:25
  because
• 23:26
  there
• 23:26
  is
• 23:26
  no
• 23:27
  real
• 23:27
  support
• 23:28
  while
• 23:28
  you
• 23:28
  are
• 23:29
  on
• 23:29
  this
• 23:30
  maternity
• 23:30
  leave,
• 23:31
  which
• 23:32
  is
• 23:32
  usually
• 23:32
  protected,
• 23:33
  but
• 23:33
  it
• 23:34
  isn't
• 23:34
  really
• 23:34
  when
• 23:35
  you
• 23:35
  have
• 23:35
  your
• 23:35
  own
• 23:35
  business,
• 23:36
  because
• 23:37
  who
• 23:37
  pays
• 23:37
  your
• 23:38
  salary?
• 23:39
  It's
• 23:39
  your
• 23:39
  own
• 23:39
  business.
• 23:41
  So
• 23:41
  if
• 23:42
  I
• 23:42
  would
• 23:42
  not
• 23:43
  be
• 23:43
  working
• 23:43
  together
• 23:44
  with
• 23:44
  you,
• 23:44
  Ingrid,
• 23:44
  that,
• 23:45
  like,
• 23:45
  how
• 23:45
  on
• 23:46
  earth
• 23:46
  could
• 23:46
  I
• 23:47
  have
• 23:47
  done
• 23:47
  a
• 23:47
  leave
• 23:48
  of
• 23:48
  four
• 23:48
  months?
• 23:49
  Not
• 23:49
  at
• 23:49
  all.
• 23:50
  We
• 23:50
  can't
• 23:51
  just
• 23:51
  be
• 23:51
  so
• 23:51
  happy
• 23:51
  that
• 23:52
  we
• 23:52
  are,
• 23:52
  both
• 23:52
  of
• 23:53
  us,
• 23:53
  that
• 23:53
  we
• 23:53
  can
• 23:54
  work
• 23:54
  remote
• 23:55
  and
• 23:55
  online.
• 23:55
  But
• 23:56
  imagine
• 23:56
  if
• 23:56
  you
• 23:57
  have
• 23:57
  like
• 23:57
  a
• 23:57
  store
• 23:58
  where
• 23:58
  you
• 23:58
  have
• 23:58
  rent
• 23:59
  to
• 23:59
  pay
• 23:59
  and
• 23:59
  where
• 24:00
  you
• 24:00
  meet
• 24:00
  people
• 24:00
  on
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  floor,
• 24:01
  etc.
• 24:02
  And
• 24:03
  I
• 24:03
  don't
• 24:03
  want
• 24:03
  to
• 24:04
  imagine
• 24:04
  this
• 24:04
  one,
• 24:05
  really.
• 24:05
  And
• 24:07
  that's
• 24:07
  if
• 24:08
  you're
• 24:08
  just
• 24:08
  on
• 24:08
  your.
• 24:08
  Own,
• 24:08
  you
• 24:09
  know,
• 24:09
  no
• 24:09
  partner
• 24:10
  backing
• 24:10
  you
• 24:10
  up.
• 24:11
  Yes,
• 24:11
  that
• 24:11
  is
• 24:12
  really
• 24:13
  difficult.
• 24:14
  So
• 24:14
  I
• 24:14
  have
• 24:14
  a
• 24:14
  good
• 24:14
  partner
• 24:15
  who
• 24:15
  has
• 24:15
  like
• 24:16
  parental
• 24:17
  leave
• 24:17
  till
• 24:17
  January
• 24:18
  because
• 24:18
  he
• 24:18
  has
• 24:19
  like
• 24:19
  a.
• 24:19
  He's
• 24:20
  an
• 24:20
  employee.
• 24:21
  Right.
• 24:21
  So.
• 24:22
  And
• 24:23
  I
• 24:23
  also
• 24:23
  think
• 24:24
  I
• 24:24
  am.
• 24:25
  Well,
• 24:25
  I'm
• 24:25
  really
• 24:26
  happy
• 24:26
  to
• 24:26
  be
• 24:26
  back.
• 24:27
  Would
• 24:28
  I.
• 24:28
  I
• 24:29
  have
• 24:30
  made
• 24:30
  a
• 24:30
  longer
• 24:31
  break
• 24:32
  if
• 24:32
  you
• 24:32
  were
• 24:33
  employed?
• 24:33
  If
• 24:33
  I
• 24:34
  would
• 24:34
  have.
• 24:34
  Yeah,
• 24:34
  pretty
• 24:35
  sure,
• 24:35
  yeah.
• 24:36
  If
• 24:36
  I'm
• 24:37
  also
• 24:37
  happy
• 24:38
  to
• 24:38
  be
• 24:38
  back.
• 24:38
  Yes.
• 24:38
  But
• 24:39
  it's
• 24:39
  a
• 24:39
  challenge
• 24:39
  to
• 24:40
  balance
• 24:40
  everything.
• 24:41
  So
• 24:41
  what
• 24:41
  I
• 24:41
  really
• 24:41
  see
• 24:41
  now
• 24:42
  is
• 24:42
  I
• 24:42
  really
• 24:43
  need
• 24:43
  to
• 24:43
  prioritize
• 24:45
  so
• 24:45
  much
• 24:45
  harder.
• 24:46
  So
• 24:46
  if
• 24:46
  you
• 24:46
  are
• 24:46
  coming
• 24:47
  up
• 24:47
  to
• 24:47
  me,
• 24:47
  it's
• 24:47
  like,
• 24:47
  hey,
• 24:48
  do
• 24:48
  you
• 24:48
  want
• 24:48
  to
• 24:48
  hear
• 24:49
  about
• 24:49
  this
• 24:49
  idea?
• 24:49
  I
• 24:49
  was
• 24:49
  like,
• 24:50
  tell
• 24:51
  me
• 24:51
  about
• 24:51
  it
• 24:51
  before.
• 24:52
  And
• 24:52
  if
• 24:53
  I
• 24:53
  see
• 24:53
  there's
• 24:53
  a
• 24:53
  win
• 24:54
  win
• 24:54
  situation
• 24:54
  in
• 24:55
  like
• 24:55
  a
• 24:56
  meeting,
• 24:57
  then
• 24:57
  we
• 24:57
  can
• 24:57
  talk.
• 24:57
  But
• 24:58
  otherwise,
• 24:59
  no,
• 25:00
  no
• 25:00
  when.
• 25:01
  Right.
• 25:01
  So
• 25:02
  my
• 25:02
  day
• 25:02
  has
• 25:03
  less
• 25:03
  hours
• 25:03
  or
• 25:04
  at
• 25:04
  the
• 25:04
  same
• 25:04
  hours,
• 25:05
  but
• 25:05
  less
• 25:06
  time
• 25:07
  available.
• 25:08
  And
• 25:09
  so
• 25:09
  you
• 25:09
  have
• 25:09
  to
• 25:09
  make
• 25:10
  the
• 25:10
  most
• 25:10
  of
• 25:10
  it.
• 25:11
  Yeah.
• 25:11
  To
• 25:11
  really
• 25:11
  fit
• 25:12
  in.
• 25:12
  5,
• 25:12
  6
• 25:13
  working
• 25:13
  hours
• 25:13
  a
• 25:14
  day
• 25:14
  is
• 25:14
  tough
• 25:15
  and
• 25:16
  energy
• 25:17
  wise.
• 25:17
  I
• 25:17
  mean,
• 25:18
  I
• 25:18
  don't
• 25:18
  sleep
• 25:18
  the
• 25:19
  night
• 25:19
  like
• 25:19
  a
• 25:20
  baby
• 25:22
  and
• 25:23
  without
• 25:23
  any
• 25:24
  break.
• 25:24
  So
• 25:25
  there
• 25:25
  are
• 25:25
  many
• 25:26
  breaks,
• 25:26
  to
• 25:26
  be
• 25:26
  very
• 25:26
  honest.
• 25:28
  So
• 25:28
  I
• 25:28
  really
• 25:29
  need
• 25:29
  to
• 25:29
  take
• 25:29
  care
• 25:29
  about
• 25:29
  my
• 25:29
  energy
• 25:30
  level.
• 25:31
  And
• 25:31
  I
• 25:32
  have
• 25:32
  also
• 25:32
  this,
• 25:32
  I
• 25:33
  don't
• 25:33
  know
• 25:33
  how
• 25:33
  it's
• 25:33
  called
• 25:34
  nursing
• 25:34
  dementia.
• 25:36
  Sometimes
• 25:36
  I
• 25:37
  really
• 25:37
  need
• 25:37
  to
• 25:37
  ask,
• 25:37
  like,
• 25:38
  what
• 25:38
  was
• 25:39
  this
• 25:39
  name
• 25:39
  again?
• 25:40
  What
• 25:41
  was
• 25:41
  like,
• 25:42
  really
• 25:42
  bad
• 25:42
  sometimes.
• 25:43
  Luckily
• 25:44
  we
• 25:44
  have
• 25:44
  really
• 25:45
  great
• 25:45
  clients
• 25:46
  where
• 25:47
  they
• 25:47
  say,
• 25:47
  sometimes
• 25:48
  like,
• 25:48
  okay,
• 25:48
  ah,
• 25:48
  the
• 25:49
  baby's
• 25:49
  crying,
• 25:49
  look,
• 25:49
  you
• 25:50
  can
• 25:50
  just
• 25:50
  bring
• 25:50
  them
• 25:50
  on
• 25:51
  the
• 25:51
  call.
• 25:51
  I
• 25:51
  was
• 25:51
  like,
• 25:52
  sure.
• 25:52
  I
• 25:52
  was
• 25:52
  like,
• 25:53
  yeah.
• 25:53
  And
• 25:53
  then
• 25:53
  he's
• 25:53
  looking
• 25:54
  in
• 25:54
  the,
• 25:54
  sitting
• 25:55
  in
• 25:55
  the
• 25:55
  car
• 25:55
  like,
• 25:56
  hi,
• 25:56
  I'm
• 25:57
  here.
• 25:58
  So.
• 25:58
  And
• 25:58
  then
• 25:59
  it
• 25:59
  works
• 25:59
  somehow.
• 26:00
  So
• 26:00
  you
• 26:00
  really
• 26:00
  need
• 26:00
  to
• 26:00
  be
• 26:00
  flexible.
• 26:01
  Right.
• 26:03
  And
• 26:03
  this
• 26:03
  is
• 26:03
  what
• 26:04
  we
• 26:04
  see
• 26:04
  as
• 26:04
  the
• 26:05
  whole
• 26:05
  team
• 26:05
  of
• 26:06
  women
• 26:06
  and
• 26:06
  mothers.
• 26:07
  We
• 26:08
  always
• 26:08
  need
• 26:08
  to
• 26:08
  be
• 26:08
  flexible.
• 26:10
  Like
• 26:10
  in
• 26:10
  the
• 26:10
  call.
• 26:11
  Ingrid
• 26:11
  also
• 26:11
  got
• 26:12
  a
• 26:12
  call
• 26:13
  here
• 26:13
  in
• 26:13
  the
• 26:13
  Wilder
• 26:14
  podcast,
• 26:14
  also
• 26:15
  need
• 26:15
  to
• 26:15
  leave
• 26:15
  now
• 26:16
  to
• 26:16
  pick
• 26:16
  up
• 26:16
  her
• 26:17
  boy.
• 26:17
  So,
• 26:18
  you
• 26:18
  know.
• 26:19
  Yeah.
• 26:20
  And
• 26:20
  I
• 26:20
  think
• 26:20
  it's
• 26:21
  much
• 26:21
  about
• 26:22
  empathy,
• 26:23
  understanding
• 26:24
  each
• 26:24
  other,
• 26:24
  supporting
• 26:25
  each
• 26:25
  other
• 26:26
  and.
• 26:27
  Yeah,
• 26:28
  yeah.
• 26:28
  And
• 26:28
  I
• 26:29
  mean,
• 26:29
  there's
• 26:29
  this
• 26:30
  German
• 26:30
  saying
• 26:30
  that
• 26:31
  5
• 26:31
  be
• 26:31
  odds.
• 26:32
  Yeah.
• 26:32
  It's
• 26:33
  like,
• 26:33
  come
• 26:33
  on,
• 26:34
  don't
• 26:34
  take
• 26:34
  things
• 26:35
  that
• 26:36
  seriously.
• 26:36
  Things
• 26:37
  don't
• 26:37
  have
• 26:37
  to
• 26:37
  happen
• 26:37
  at
• 26:38
  an
• 26:38
  exact
• 26:38
  time.
• 26:39
  Sometimes
• 26:39
  you
• 26:40
  can
• 26:40
  just
• 26:40
  give
• 26:40
  people
• 26:41
  a
• 26:41
  bit
• 26:41
  of
• 26:41
  lenience
• 26:42
  and
• 26:42
  a
• 26:42
  bit
• 26:43
  of
• 26:43
  understanding
• 26:43
  and
• 26:44
  then
• 26:44
  everything
• 26:44
  works
• 26:45
  out
• 26:45
  just
• 26:45
  fine.
• 26:46
  Because
• 26:47
  we
• 26:47
  are
• 26:47
  still
• 26:48
  working,
• 26:48
  both
• 26:48
  really
• 26:48
  dedicated
• 26:49
  to
• 26:49
  what
• 26:49
  we
• 26:49
  are
• 26:50
  doing
• 26:50
  and
• 26:50
  we
• 26:51
  can
• 26:51
  trust
• 26:52
  in
• 26:52
  each
• 26:52
  other
• 26:53
  that
• 26:53
  that
• 26:53
  is
• 26:53
  the
• 26:54
  case.
• 26:54
  And
• 26:55
  so
• 26:55
  of
• 26:55
  course
• 26:56
  that's
• 26:56
  not
• 26:56
  a
• 26:56
  problem.
• 26:57
  If
• 26:57
  you
• 26:57
  say,
• 26:58
  let's
• 26:59
  postpone
• 26:59
  the
• 26:59
  meeting
• 26:59
  for
• 27:00
  an
• 27:00
  hour
• 27:00
  because
• 27:00
  I
• 27:00
  have
• 27:01
  to
• 27:01
  take
• 27:01
  care
• 27:01
  of
• 27:01
  the
• 27:01
  baby
• 27:02
  at
• 27:02
  the
• 27:02
  moment,
• 27:03
  that's
• 27:04
  fine.
• 27:04
  And
• 27:05
  last
• 27:05
  week
• 27:05
  I
• 27:06
  went
• 27:06
  on
• 27:06
  a
• 27:06
  much
• 27:07
  needed
• 27:07
  holiday
• 27:07
  for
• 27:08
  a
• 27:08
  week
• 27:08
  where
• 27:09
  I
• 27:09
  just
• 27:09
  told.
• 27:10
  Told
• 27:10
  you,
• 27:10
  yeah,
• 27:10
  I
• 27:11
  need
• 27:11
  a
• 27:11
  few
• 27:11
  days
• 27:11
  off,
• 27:12
  is
• 27:12
  that
• 27:12
  okay?
• 27:13
  And
• 27:14
  so
• 27:14
  you
• 27:14
  gave
• 27:14
  me
• 27:15
  that
• 27:15
  lenience
• 27:15
  as
• 27:15
  well.
• 27:16
  So
• 27:16
  I
• 27:16
  think
• 27:16
  that
• 27:17
  works
• 27:17
  out
• 27:17
  for
• 27:17
  me.
• 27:18
  The
• 27:18
  best
• 27:18
  thing
• 27:18
  about
• 27:19
  you
• 27:19
  being
• 27:19
  back
• 27:19
  is
• 27:20
  actually
• 27:20
  that
• 27:20
  I
• 27:21
  have
• 27:21
  the
• 27:22
  sounding
• 27:22
  chamber
• 27:22
  again.
• 27:23
  You
• 27:23
  know,
• 27:23
  someone
• 27:23
  to
• 27:24
  talk
• 27:24
  to,
• 27:24
  someone
• 27:24
  to
• 27:25
  vent
• 27:25
  to,
• 27:26
  to
• 27:26
  rant
• 27:27
  to
• 27:27
  if
• 27:27
  need.
• 27:28
  Because
• 27:29
  that
• 27:29
  is
• 27:29
  the
• 27:29
  fine
• 27:30
  thing
• 27:30
  about
• 27:30
  a
• 27:30
  partnership.
• 27:31
  You
• 27:31
  can
• 27:31
  back
• 27:32
  each
• 27:32
  other
• 27:32
  up,
• 27:33
  but
• 27:33
  you
• 27:33
  can
• 27:33
  also
• 27:34
  go
• 27:34
  through
• 27:34
  the
• 27:34
  lows
• 27:35
  together
• 27:35
  and
• 27:35
  celebrate
• 27:36
  the
• 27:36
  highs
• 27:36
  together.
• 27:37
  And
• 27:37
  that
• 27:37
  is
• 27:37
  what
• 27:38
  actually
• 27:38
  was.
• 27:39
  I
• 27:39
  missed
• 27:39
  the
• 27:39
  most
• 27:40
  over
• 27:40
  the
• 27:40
  last.
• 27:40
  I
• 27:41
  can
• 27:41
  imagine
• 27:41
  after
• 27:41
  this
• 27:42
  week
• 27:42
  already.
• 27:43
  Yeah.
• 27:43
  Because
• 27:43
  that
• 27:44
  is
• 27:44
  just
• 27:44
  something
• 27:44
  that
• 27:44
  is,
• 27:45
  it's
• 27:45
  so
• 27:45
  helpful
• 27:46
  even
• 27:46
  if
• 27:46
  the
• 27:47
  other
• 27:47
  person
• 27:47
  doesn't
• 27:47
  have
• 27:48
  anything
• 27:48
  to
• 27:48
  add
• 27:48
  to
• 27:49
  that
• 27:49
  situation.
• 27:49
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• 27:50
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• 27:50
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• 27:50
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• 27:51
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• 27:51
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• 27:51
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• 27:52
  to
• 27:52
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• 27:52
  alone.
• 27:52
  Yeah.
• 27:52
  And
• 27:53
  you
• 27:53
  sit
• 27:53
  in
• 27:53
  the
• 27:53
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• 27:53
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• 27:54
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• 27:54
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• 27:54
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• 27:54
  each
• 27:55
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• 27:55
  Right?
• 27:55
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• 27:56
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• 27:57
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• 27:57
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• 27:57
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• 27:57
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• 27:58
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• 27:58
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• 27:58
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• 27:59
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• 27:59
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• 27:59
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• 27:59
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• 28:00
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• 28:00
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• 28:00
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• 28:01
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• 28:01
  you're
• 28:01
  feeling.
• 28:02
  And
• 28:02
  then
• 28:02
  sometimes
• 28:02
  that's
• 28:03
  already
• 28:03
  enough
• 28:04
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• 28:04
  you
• 28:04
  really
• 28:04
  know.
• 28:05
  You
• 28:06
  understand
• 28:06
  each
• 28:06
  other.
• 28:07
  Yeah.
• 28:09
  Yeah.
• 28:10
  Yeah.
• 28:10
  So
• 28:10
  I
• 28:11
  guess
• 28:11
  that's
• 28:11
  it
• 28:12
  for
• 28:12
  our
• 28:12
  very
• 28:12
  personal
• 28:13
  episode.
• 28:14
  150.
• 28:15
  Thank
• 28:15
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• 28:15
  again,
• 28:16
  everyone.
• 28:16
  I
• 28:16
  hope
• 28:16
  you
• 28:17
  liked
• 28:17
  our
• 28:17
  small
• 28:18
  deep
• 28:18
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• 28:18
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• 28:18
  how
• 28:19
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• 28:19
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• 28:20
  has
• 28:20
  been
• 28:20
  functioning
• 28:20
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• 28:21
  the
• 28:21
  last
• 28:21
  four
• 28:21
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• 28:22
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• 28:22
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• 28:24
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• 28:24
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• 28:24
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• 28:27
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• 28:27
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• 28:28
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• 28:29
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• 28:29
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• 28:30
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• 28:30
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• 28:31
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• 28:33
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• 28:33
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• 28:35
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• 28:35
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• 28:36
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• 28:36
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• 28:37
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• 28:37
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• 28:37
  was
• 28:37
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• 28:38
  original
• 28:39
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• 28:40
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• 28:41
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• 28:41
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• 28:42
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• 28:42
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• 28:43
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• 28:43
  where
• 28:43
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• 28:43
  all
• 28:43
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• 28:44
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• 28:44
  we
• 28:44
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• 28:44
  back
• 28:44
  again.
• 28:45
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• 28:45
  from
• 28:45
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• 28:46
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• 28:46
  sorry,
• 28:47
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• 28:47
  going
• 28:47
  to
• 28:48
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• 28:48
  you
• 28:48
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• 28:48
  me
• 28:49
  again
• 28:50
  behind
• 28:50
  the
• 28:50
  mic.
• 28:51
  Yeah.
• 28:51
  So.
• 28:51
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• 28:52
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• 28:52
  we
• 28:52
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• 28:52
  happy
• 28:52
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• 28:53
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• 28:53
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• 28:53
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• 28:54
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• 28:54
  on
• 28:55
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• 28:56
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• 28:56
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• 28:56
  on
• 28:57
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• 28:57
  website,
• 28:57
  marketplacemanageuniverse.com
• 28:59
  there
• 28:59
  we
• 28:59
  will
• 28:59
  also
• 29:00
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• 29:02
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• 29:03
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• 29:03
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• 29:04
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• 29:04
  them
• 29:05
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• 29:05
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• 29:05
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• 29:07
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• 29:07
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• 29:08
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• 29:08
  blog
• 29:09
  posts,
• 29:09
  et
• 29:10
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• 29:10
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• 29:10
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• 29:11
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• 29:11
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• 29:12
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• 29:13
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• 29:13
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• 29:14
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• 29:15
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• 29:17
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• 29:19
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• 29:19
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• 29:20
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• 29:20
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• 29:20
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• 29:21
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• 29:21
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• 29:21
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• 29:22
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• 29:23
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• 29:23
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• 29:23
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• 29:24
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• 29:24
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• 29:24
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• 29:25
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  the
• 29:25
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• 29:25
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• 29:26
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• 29:27
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• 29:27
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• 29:28
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• 29:28
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• 29:28
  we're
• 29:29
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• 29:29
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• 29:29
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• 29:29
  Bye
• 29:29
  bye
• 29:29
  for
• 29:30
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• 29:36
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• 29:36
  listen
• 29:36
  to
• 29:37
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• 29:37
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• 29:38
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• 29:39
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• 29:40
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• 29:40
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• 29:40
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• 29:41
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• 29:41
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• 29:41
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