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• Daniel (Pacco): look, I was beyond embarrassed. Words can't describe how I felt watching that. Sam: not laughing. If your your wife will walk in be what are you watching? Like, pornography. I'm watching pornography. Yep, that's Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah, Sam: it. Hi everybody and welcome to Pile of Mates. My name is Sam De Lorenzo and I used to work in the cinema industry for about twelve years and I couldn't really talk about movies and now I don't work in the cinema industry, so I can talk about movies all I want and I invited two of my really great mates, Corey and Paco, to talk movies with me. Hey guys, how you doing? Corey: Very well, thanks. Daniel (Pacco): good. Yeah, good. How are you? Sam: Can't complain. Well I mean I could because I had to watch the onion movie. Let's let's jump straight into this. We Daniel (Pacco): Ha ha ha Sam: so the onion movie was picked by the lovely Corey over here because we did two horror films in a row and maybe it was a bit much. So he wanted to go into more of a a comedic direction, which I understand and we can enjoy that. So he picked the onion movie. Corey, do you wanna give us some background on why you picked the onion movie? Corey: yeah, basically I watched it probably like a decade and a half ago, back in the high school era, and it was hilarious back then. And I was like, let's give it a go, see if it sort of holds up to today's age and if I find it funny compared to back then. Sam: Yeah. fair enough, fair enough. I I mean, you did well, you know. It's a good pick. It was interesting pick. I sat down with my fiance and we had some interesting conversations about this film afterwards, that's for sure. But For anyone who hasn't who hasn't seen the Onion movie, the Onion movie is essentially the tagline is America's Finest News Source. So vulnerable newscaster Norm Archer reports the latest news in politics, health, culture and and entertainment, such as automotive recalls of decapitations, including neck belts, and a study finding that depression hits losers hardest. This compilation of bogus news stories, celebrity profiles, movie trailers, and skits course and Skits come courtesy of the ace satire of the ace satirist the onion. It was a movie. I'll say that. I that was that was a pile of movies, yeah. Exactly. It look I didn't hate Daniel (Pacco): A polar movies. That was. Sam: this movie, but I would never recommend anyone to watch this movie. Daniel (Pacco): Ha ha ha. Sam: That was my opening thoughts on it. Corey: What about you, Paco? Daniel (Pacco): look. look when you brought that movie up in our last podcast, I was thinking, not again. Like I remember watching a what was it? It must have been ten, twelve years ago. We must have been sixteen at the time or such. And I remember you going, mate, the onion movie, you're gonna love cock puncher and all that stuff. I remember watching Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): it back actually I don't really remember watching it back then, but I it just I don't know, you know when something just leaves something with you and you're just like, I don't wanna watch that again And the fact that Sam: Yeah. Look. Daniel (Pacco): it came back almost a quarter of a lifetime later And you're just thinking Fuck my life man, it was it was torture. I didn't wanna put the wife to watch it through with me. I personally I had it on my phone in bed and just minding my own. I I had to watch it in like three segments because like, man But we'll we'll continue on to that Sam: It was Yeah, it was Corey: I'm sorry you had to go through that torture. Daniel (Pacco): in a moment. It's just what did you think, Corey? Sam: It was I think it just Daniel (Pacco): That's what I wanted to hear. Wha did your impression from back in high school kick back in thinking it was a great movie or? Corey: Honestly, I watched it with the wife and we loved it. Like not not Daniel (Pacco): Ha ha ha. Corey: every skit was like hilarious or funny or yeah, but like majority of it I'm just like, man, this is gold, like yeah. It was yeah, took me back to my high school times. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: Yeah. So was she laughing with you or laughing at you? Just making sure. Okay, Corey: Yeah laughing whib. Sam: that's a good thing. We were definitely I think Tegan and I were definitely laughing at the movie and just gone, jeez, jeez. I I fet there's one little piece of trivia I found on this film which I think I I found it after after watching it, but thinking now, the context of when this was made is really fascinating. Did you know that this was filmed in two thousand and three, but it wasn't released until two thousand and eight? Yeah. But Daniel (Pacco): I can imagine why. I can imagine why, yeah. Corey: Whoa. Sam: In two thousand and eight, you're like, Huh I think one of the letterbox reviews that I I read about this, someone said, you know, mov movies in the middle two thousands basically is ha ha terrorists, ha ha ha, that's funny. But this is Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: two year not even two years after nine eleven would this been shot. And like that there's some Daniel (Pacco): Right. Sam: real like, you know, hey, terrorist this and and like, wow, it really kinda I don't know. It maybe it's just representative of the times, but I just was like, wow, this just it feels like it's worse when when you know that that's when it was filmed. Daniel (Pacco): I I didn't even notice that to be honest. That it was like Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): because wasn't it two thousand and one with nine eleven and all that? So that's like that that would have been thanks. I did go to school, yeah. No, but I mean, Sam: Yeah. You know your history. Good work. Daniel (Pacco): yeah, that would have been fresh. I c I can imagine why it would have been postponed five odd years, but but you're right. Sam: Yeah. I think it was just how bad the film was that they just kept, you know, no one wanted to release the film. But I will say, okay, I I I'm shitting on this film. I laughed a lot and it was fun. So we had you know, I I always kind of I feel like I've changed my rules on how I rate these films all the time. But did I have a good time? Yes. Would I watch it again? No. Would I recommend someone else watching it? No. But I had a fun time. We it was a memorable evening. We sat down, laughed at the film a lot. A l a lot of shock, I think. It was I think my one of my notes here was just it felt like watching a slow car crash the whole film. Daniel (Pacco): It was train wreck though, man. It really was. I I I was Sam: Yes, absolutely. but sorry. Daniel (Pacco): I was gonna say, like, I wouldn't even call it a movie. It's like a just a montage of skits when you put it that way. I I look Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I personally thought the first half of the movie like I I didn't mind it. I loved the scene with the armed arm gun and I love the what's her name? Melissa Cherry, you know and her music video saying, no, they're not sexual at all Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Sam: sh I don't know what they're talking about. No. She's a good old fashioned country girl. I don't understand how anyone could be misconstrued. There were just beautiful lyrics about loving someone in deep passionate ways. But how do she's you know, clearly a very, very innocent woman. I don't know how you guys can mis misconstrue that at all. Daniel (Pacco): Right, like shooting your love all over someone. How can you take that the wrong way? Sam: I know. that's a few times you're watching, it's like oof. The the I think the worst one of those was the the pipe scene because it just felt it was it you know, something shoot all your milky love or something. I'm like Yeah. But I will say after the film, I this is w another one of my movie rules that I have about especially with like musicals, is that if I do I go away singing a song from for one of the films and I'll say the most recent wicked, couldn't couldn't remember one of the you know, unless it's a reprise of one of the the first film songs, couldn't tell you which ones were a good you know. the the good songs and that. But I definitely for the next few days the next few days I was maybe singing what was the there was a few of the the the really let's hang what were the what that's one take me from behind yeah yeah I was I was sort Corey: Take me from behind. Do do doo yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Take me from behind. Sam: of having a sing at that the next day which was not appropriate especially with my daughter around and I'm like she should not be singing these songs but Daniel (Pacco): huh. Sam: but it's catchy Daniel (Pacco): Yep. Sam: Again, it's all about just friendship and and wholesome love, guys. Come on. Yes. Yes. He's just Corey: And about Jesus' love coming up from behind. Daniel (Pacco): Behind Sam: sneaking up on you like that, you know? You just never know when they're gonna get you. yeah. Corey: But I thought that was great too, 'cause Anita and I were chatting about it after and she's like, man, like some of the stuff is sort of still relevant to today and it's like especially I feel like with like Sabrina Carpenter, even some of like Ariana Grande's songs like Sixty Four or whatever it is, Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, I didn't think that. Mm-mm. Mm. Sam: Yeah. yeah. It just Corey: they're so sexualized and it's sort of yeah, this was sort of taking the Mickey out of it. So yeah. Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Well did you know there was another and this he' I found like two fun facts on this film. But the other fun fact about this is one of the backup dancers in in one I think it was with Take Me From Behind one one of the music videos that we shot, there's a dancer and his name is Kevin Fedelein, who then after this went on to marry Britney Spears, who they're spoofing in this film. So there you go. That's Corey: Whoa. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. No way. Sam: Again, true love guys. This film is all about true love, obviously. Corey: That's cool. Sam: Yeah, little nice little trivia fact there for ya. Daniel (Pacco): Really, fun fact about that. Sam: I We love Melissa Cherry. She's an absolute darling. But let's talk about first of all, like the film opens with neck belts and One thing I like it just kind of set the tone for the film. And just 'cause you're like, okay, this is a bit weird. But the the how do I explain? The bad CGI. I mean there's you bad CGI the whole film, but the bad CGI of just the slow neck stop and then boom, just this like it just falls off. I think it really set the tone. It kind of reminded me of another fantastic bad film called Velocipasta. I don't know. I think Corey's I don't think Mention he's saying it right. And Corey: Yeah. Sam: it's the and it reminds It reminded me almost of that like insert burning house VFX shot here. Like it was just terrible. And I think it just really set the tone. Corey: Yeah, yeah, it was it was definitely a low budget film. Sam: Yes. Yeah, they're not I you know, they they're smart management of bul the budget, you they they knew it was only a small segment, so they're not gonna blow the budget on this one. So very important, very important. And then we go to I would argue must surely is Corey's absolute favorite. Cause it took me a second to work out in the group chat when I said, I'm watching this film and you sent rooster emoji. And I'm like, What's going on here? And then we learnt about Cock Puncher. Corey, do you wanna tell us about Cock Puncher? Because I feel like you have a real passion for this. Corey: not as much of a passion for compared to Mil Melissa Cherry, but yeah, Cockpuncher is an awesome action-packed blockbuster feature long movie that's been released. And it's even got its own PlayStation 2 game co like coming out as well. so yeah, they're just advertising that all over the throughout the movie. And it's got the awesome Steven Segal, who isn't the father of the previous guy. In the last movie that I thought was Sagull, but they were named something totally different. Daniel (Pacco): Ha ha ha. Sam: Ha ha It was I love that it they kept coming back to it as well. I thought I what I love is that even though there were so many different sort of segments of this film, we just kept coming back to Cock Puncher. It just Yeah Cockpuncher Daniel (Pacco): To get away with marketing of a movie title like that. Who wants to Who's gonna let their kids read this title? Cockpuncher. You know, god damn it. Sam: But he's yes, I I would you all right, let's be honest guys. If there was a movie called Cock Puncher, would you watch it? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, why not? Why not? Yeah, no, I take one for the team. Yeah. Probably watch once and then that's it, never recommend it again. Sam: Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Would you watch it or would you loved watching it? Daniel (Pacco): Which cock with punching? Fuck made. Sam: and then we kind of jump across I we're jumping around the whole film because there's I feel like it it's it's hard to even linearly talk about this film because there's just so many random pieces here and there. And the one that really kind of took me out, I'm like, hang on, has this movie light stopped playing was that we interrupt this program to talk about the program. Which really fucking threw me 'cause I was like, hang on, what? Why is this happening? Like, why are we suddenly And it it just it I was going, what's going on? Why it you know, movie critics with a dark room really slowly talking about a film with exquisite detail. It just really threw me off. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, it really took a fourth wall right there as well, you know. Sam: yeah. Absolute shattered the fourth wall. Corey: I remember when I first watched it as a teenager and I was like, man, this is the most boringest part. So I was Sam: Yeah. Corey: like the epiphany of that the audience viewer that they brought in, who was like that young teenager guy who's just like, They're fucking Sam: Yeah. The audience. Was that you? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Corey: Yeah, yeah, I was I I was basically like that. Whereas watching it this Sam: Ha ha ha. Corey: time I was kind of like, I kind of I was appreciating Sam: Yeah. Corey: it more 'cause they're sort of like I think it when they got halfway through the film went back to it, went back to the critiques. And it was like, Yeah. the black person and the Asian person were there and it's like, how do you think the representation of is going Daniel (Pacco): Me Corey: in the film? And yeah, it was just it was quite funny. Sam: And then Daniel (Pacco): me me no Rocky, you know, me no Rocky Sam: I did love the immediate cutting to a black person walking into a bar saying, I don't drink alcohol, but can you tell me where the closest library is? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, but then what happens Corey: And then I Daniel (Pacco): straight after that? The guy gets his junk. Sam: Yeah. The penis removal. Yeah, I don't know about you guys, but I've never thought about putting my penis inside a mailbox, but you know, maybe that's just me. Yeah. Evidently. Daniel (Pacco): you're missing out. well, I mean I wanna know. I haven't got stuck in anything like that. Corey: That's what Packer was doing five minutes ago. Sam: Yes. Again. Daniel (Pacco): Well, well Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Hey, hey, hey. We're talking about onion movie, yeah? Come there. Sam: feel like there were so many things here that I just Daniel (Pacco): look, there there was like so many skits of random things and when one would end it would just jump into something like a penis removal scene and then the terrorist would be coming in and it'd be jumping to another dick removal scene and this guy's trying to get this guy out of a cabinet or something. Like fuck man. But Sam: Yeah. I no, no, you go. Daniel (Pacco): I was gonna say and then they had that other skit with the I think it was like the gay cruise or something like that. But Sam: the gay cre Corey: Yeah, the Queen Sam: yeah, did the th Yeah. Corey: Nathan too. Daniel (Pacco): But it it was the random pop ups on these guys are just banging in the bed. It's you're just like, Yeah. But it was Sam: Yeah, you're like, there. Yeah. Okay, that that ha that's happening. There we go. Cool. yeah, again, there we go. What is this film rated? What like I mean, nothing wrong with, you know, a bit of gay sex in a film, but what is this film rated? It it can't Daniel (Pacco): Okay. Sam: be do you reckon it's MA or do you reckon we're going higher? Daniel (Pacco): Maybe PG thirteen? what are we looking at? Corey: I think just Sam: Just Ebb, surely not. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Corey: Ugh, attack the union again. Sam: There was all Daniel (Pacco): Are you dyslexic? Sam: How often are you typing in the onion to also have the union? Corey: It says T V fourteen, so that would be PG fourteen? Daniel (Pacco): Wow. Holy shit, is Sam: No, surely not. Daniel (Pacco): that PG thirteen? They pretty much had like a gay root scene in that almost. I know they were covered up. Sam: I don't say I don't think it was pretty much. There was a lot of gay sex in this film. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Sorry? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Yeah, but it's not like Corey: Yeah, but those aren't dicks. Those just shrimp. Daniel (Pacco): they'll I I know I said this movie's terrible, but it's definitely something you can talk about because of how shit Sam: yeah, it it's a it's a conversation starter and a conversation finisher. Daniel (Pacco): But in that whole gay scene one, it the one line that made me just go what the fuck it was kind of like go and play blackjack and get blown and I'm just like, what the fuck? I like this cruise, but Sam: They know their target demographic, let's be honest here. Daniel (Pacco): all sorts Corey: And Daniel (Pacco): of stereotypes. Didn't all Italians have big nipples? Come on Sam, I know you got an Italian Sam: Yes. Daniel (Pacco): background. Show us. Corey: No they were all mobsters, wasn't it? Sam: Yes. Yeah, I think something yes, that's right. There was the st Corey: I think Norwegian Sam: the stere was it the stereotype game or something? They were literally named every stereotype they could and creating new ones. Yes. yes, yeah. Daniel (Pacco): And all Arabs are terrorists. I know that's such a two thousands joke, but come on, man. Sam: The what did you think of the the the the terrorist training video? And the you know, the good terrorists and the bad terrorists. Was it sorry, terrorist in training and my notes here are they get excited watching a Western action movie ad and then remind himself it's a decadent, immoral Western filth. So Yeah. Stop liking Daniel (Pacco): And it Sam: this movie. God damn it. It was Cockpuncher, wasn't it? Daniel (Pacco): It was either that or Melissa. That was one or the other. Yeah. She's got the cherries. Hmm. Mmm. Sam: yes, true. Melissa Cherry, you know, she has she she spreads out all over the Middle East, of course, all over the world. And obviously, has a good presence in the Middle East. we also need to talk about the the marijuana military Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: recruitment. So they're basically Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: like, Hey, come join the join the army, and if you don't die, you'll get an ounce of weed. I know. Daniel (Pacco): No way. And if you do something else, you get I don't know, more wheat. No fucking way. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Shit though. Corey: And then and then you get a hot bitch poster and then he gets the gun he's like Sam: yes, of course. Yeah you gotta shoot your heartback. Daniel (Pacco): Why are you shooting the post up? Mm-hmm. Corey: What what was your favorite like skit out of all of And what was your least favourite? Sam: I mean the one that just like I had so many questions, which is stupid 'cause it was on the first ones, was the worst j the news judgment was the the woman sees the house explode and then calls about her husband's socks being missing. And that's not the part that bothered me. My notes are literally she calls the news before she calls nine one one. That's the only part that bothered me. I didn't care the news was about the socks. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: It was just the why what makes no Daniel (Pacco): But when she gets out the van with the camera in her face and she's like, We're about to talk Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): to a man who's missing his black socks and you like you got this house exploded in the background It Sam: my god. Daniel (Pacco): really Corey: I love it. And then the fireman's coming out with the baby Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Corey: to d to give to the Sam: And they're like, but the socks, the onions over there dear. Daniel (Pacco): That was like one of the first skits. Like like you said earlier, it really sets the tone Sam: Yeah, it just really s Daniel (Pacco): for the movie, just where it's going. Y you know it's just stupid and complete. Takes the piss out of everything. Sam: Yeah, absolutely. Just you're like, what are we in for? Now, we haven't you know, we haven't really talked about our favorite newscaster Norm Archer because he's having a bit of a shit time and I like and look, you know, we have all I'm sure we've at some point in or another had some kind of dealings with some corporate overlords and he's having some corporate takeover come through and they're like, Hey, we want you to advertise during the news. He's like, No, like, okay, good, good, good, good do it. It's like, no, no. If you do this, I'm gonna quit. Like, okay, cool. We'll do it again. And I just love that he takes his job so seriously, even though whatever's going on with the Onion News, this is he he the journalistic integrity of Norm is just utmost his utmost priority. I very much respect that for him. You know, it was a beautiful story for Norm's journey. We'll give you that, hey? That was the highlight of the film. but this guy's clearly not having a good time. But I'm look, he's a new Daniel (Pacco): No. No. Sam: zanker. He's probably getting paid pretty well. So let's not feel too bad for him, right? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, well nah, Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): nah, nah nah. Corey: I mean he did get a gun to the head at the end, so you know. Sam: I mean it all worked out. Yeah. So I mean like we can do you wanna jump to the end bit? I I I mean, I just basically had the well it all came together in the end. All the skits and all the things and all the penis removals and Melissa Cherries and Cock Punches and terrorists all came together in in one scene and it somehow made a almost coherent narrative. How did you guys did you guys enjoy the ending? I I think As I was watching, I like, Okay, I'm ready for the film to end now. At an hour and twenty five minutes, I've had enough of this film. Corey: I loved it. It was like just the most typical Hollywood sort of American movie, especially when like I think Melissa Cherry comes out and starts singing and then the American flag goes drops down behind her. Sam: Yeah. Corey: And there was just a few moments where they're doing like the inspirational speech about, you know, you can do this or that, but you can't take someone's life and It's very inspirational and it's like they're behind Sam: Yeah. Corey: like the American flag's behind so Sam: Yeah, very I'm again shot in two thousand and three, so they they're pretty patriotic. I mean, they're patriotic at the best of times, but pretty patriotic at the moment. How about you, Paco? Daniel (Pacco): look I just wanted the film to end. So I was I Sam: I d I just wanna go to sleep. Daniel (Pacco): was just watching I just again I you know, when they're about No well I mean almost. the guy was Sam: Brought you to tears. Daniel (Pacco): getting a stiffy and he had the landmine under him and then what came Sam: yeah. Daniel (Pacco): up was like think on sexy thoughts and it was man, come on man Yeah, so it did bring Sam: yeah, but then the s unsexy thoughts were then making out, so it was real it was a lot going on there. Daniel (Pacco): a tear to my eye but Sam: And correct me if I'm wrong, did we not previously establish that they were brothers in another skit? So their unsexy thought is of them kissing their brother. Which you know, whatever unsexy is your boat, but I mean like there are other alternatives here, guys. Right? Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I thought that they were both thinking the same thing. Corey: Well, you know, it's the whole movie's sort of breaking barriers and making you think, so you know, it's a bit Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Really really challenging the stereo the norm there. Corey: One of the skits that not hilarious, but it was more, I guess, thought provoking in was the the what was it like the murder game? The murder game that was turned into a rape game 'cause they got bored of like solving the murder mystery. Yeah. Sam: the murder mystery, the rape mystery. Yeah. That didn't Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Mm-hmm. Sam: age well. I mean that didn't age well then, but I mean that was like well this is really o awkward and like it just I know. Daniel (Pacco): I just felt sorry for the poor girl that had to lie there Corey: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): for the entire game. Like, no, no, you're doing a bad job acting. Sam: You Yeah. It Corey: like I agreed, like it's so weird and it's like disturbing Sam: Yeah. Corey: too, but like the way the other girl responds is so it's like, Sam: Right. Yeah. Corey: well you're okay with like a murder mystery, so why would a different crime be weird? Like Sam: A murder? Exactly. You ha yeah. I forgot yeah yeah, we had that same thing where like I you almost agree with her, but it's still fucking weird. But like you agree but you don't. Yeah. You feel uncomfortable Corey: Yeah. Sam: agreeing, but also you're like, mm, but maybe should we should feel bad about murder mysteries then too? It's almost Corey: Exactly. Sam: like yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): what did she say at the end of that skit? Who's gonna rape me? Something like that. That's right, yeah. Fuck it. Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Looks like I'm gonna be the victim now. Yeah. Corey: was creepy with that creepy uncle guy. Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'd thank I'd forgotten about th there are a lot of parts of these films that I think even though I knew I had to talk about later, I just mentally put it at the back of my mind 'cause I'm like, I don't know if I want to process that. I want to think about that again. So, you know, it's it's I'll have to just fr forget this stuff and and put it at the back of my mind again until hopefully we never have to watch this film again. Daniel (Pacco): Let alone this podcast. Sam: Yes. dear. But Daniel (Pacco): But if we're gonna talk about favourite skits and all that sort of stuff, I still reckon the armed gunman one. It's just you know, he's got yeah. And he like he Sam: yes, of course. Daniel (Pacco): walks into the place and he's like you know, he's got a stocking over his head and all Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): that and he's going up to the lady at the cashier, he's like, Give me a give me whatever and she's like, give you the money And he's just like Sam: No. Daniel (Pacco): Do you think I came here like this and I want the money? Not exact quote, but it's like Sam: Yeah, I mean Yeah, with benefits, so I want job security and then someone becomes the employee of the month. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I want a motherfucking job, you know. Yeah. Yeah, 40 hour weeks, paid vacations. You know, you you see him. Yeah, he does. But he gets his own desk and it's the plaque that he or the little desk name thing and it just says arm to gun I'm gunman I'm gunman. Yeah. I'm just Sam: Yeah, still called armed robber. sorry, armed gunman. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): it's it's so stupid, but it goes well, but Sam: I realize that like it's part of the skit, but it bothered me so much how long he kept the stocking on for. Like Daniel (Pacco): I know. Like did he just wear that at home Corey: I swear his eyes were closed half the time too. Must have been uncomfortable. Daniel (Pacco): and if And if But it's when Sam: Yeah. yeah. Daniel (Pacco): But the part when he when he thought that lady was calling the cops and you know he gives her a bit of a KO with the gun and it ends up being one of the clients and then he acts Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): all serious and talking bank and I'm thinking, what the hell? Sam: Yes, I Well, you can have you know, two percent interest with an offset account that'll do this to you. Daniel (Pacco): Something and that will maximise your savings. But and Sam: Yes. Daniel (Pacco): then when the other robber comes in and he tries to rob the place demanding care is like you sick in me, why you get a job like the rest of us? Corey: Yeah. Sam: Ha ha ha. Yeah, I feel like correct me if I'm wrong. That was probably the most satisfying arc story wise of the whole film. It kind of you know had beginning, a middle and an end. It was beautifully set up, beautifully acted. I thought there you couldn't do any better than that, right? Yes, beautiful character development. Yes. I really felt for the armed gunman, yes. Daniel (Pacco): Very strong character development right there. Sam: so Pac, I know you have some questions we normally go through. What's your have we have we covered them all or where? What's out? Daniel (Pacco): questions, questions. Alright. I believe one of them was along the lines of Well, we went over our first impressions, didn't we? Alright, Sam: Yes, yes we did. Daniel (Pacco): there was another one that was at what work with the film. Now, I did mention I like how there's a lot of skits that are going on and it kinda I I look personally I found this movie a complete drag and it aged like fucking milk. But I mean but What kept it going was all these skits that were happening. You know, you got five, Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): ten minutes of this thing happening, then you got a funny cockpuncher reference and then it will jump to someone else. It's just how everything somehow interconnects. So did you have Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): anything that what you thought kind of worked with the film? What worked and what didn't? Sam: Maybe Corey's got some extras here, but I I th I think we've all talked about all the good of this film. I don't know, there's much more good we can talk about here. The fact that it ended, I guess, Daniel (Pacco): Ha ha ha ha. Corey: guys. No, that was Sam: was great. Corey: Well it was great. Sam: The fact that it ended was quite nice. Corey: Ha ha ha. Sam: It was only an hour and twenty five I kid you not, when I was trying to sell this film to my fiance to fool to watch me to watch it. with me, I said, it's only an hour and twenty five minutes. She's like, okay. That that that that's was probably the the ceiling the deal moment to watch these films. That's that's what it took. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): So the toilet of jammed. Corey: It's probably yeah, it was a good good amount of good duration 'cause yeah, otherwise it would have gone a bit too long 'cause it's so many skits Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Corey: and there isn't like a a strong narrative that goes throughout. but something I did like it was like very subtle but like going between skit to skit. They sort of had like a reference. So with the like the Al Qatar the terrorist group training camp skit at the end of that it had like a zoom in of an arcade game that was called Suicide Bomber. And then it like pulled out to Sam: Yes. Corey: like the guy playing it, then he goes out to the front where Sam: Yeah. Corey: he meets his other guys and his black friend. Sam: That's right, yes. Corey: so there was a few times like that where they sort of reference something, then it cuts to the next skit, but it sort of had some something that connected them. Like Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Corey: the film Sam: Yeah. Corey: in focus when it cuts to the the audience viewer person who's like the young teenager who's saying, like, these film critics are effing gay wards and stuff. Then it cut to the Queen Nathan II gay boat crews. So it sort of Sam: Yes. Corey: Connected in a small way. Daniel (Pacco): Mm, mm, mm. Sam: Yeah. Yeah, there there was some some coherency between some of the some of the skits. There was there was something there. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): But it's just how they all it's how they all somehow joined, I reckon. that was definitely one. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): one what would you say what didn't work really? like I don't know, like look yeah you Yeah Sam: I mean, I think we've discussed at length of what wasn't working here. There's quite a lot going on. Daniel (Pacco): Like look, I'm definitely one for like dark, filthy, stereotypical humour and all that stuff, but I I don't know. Personally for me I just felt the humour was very forced in a way, like, there's nothing the funny to say. fag it. You know, just something like it it just yeah. that's just Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): my opinion. It just felt like it was really forced on some of the things. It's like, am I meant to laugh or am I meant to be insulted or offended or Yeah. Sam: I have a slight I have a slight theory that I guess when this film was made slash when it came out it was probably on the borderline of what was okay to be in media Daniel (Pacco): Hmm. Sam: and to and we've kind of the the what is politically and what it was what is politically okay and what is accepted now has changed so much and obviously it happens over time that it it it's it's has gone past that where there are still some really funny parts of this film but you kinda go, I get a bit of a bad taste from Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: some of these things now Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, like some w Hmm, Sam: Which happens to a lot of films, you know. Daniel (Pacco): like the whole terrorism being like apparently a comedic humor back then, it's kinda Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): cringy now just to think about it's like Sam: Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't Daniel (Pacco): Hmm killing people in masses, yeah, yeah, that's funny, you know. Yeah. Hmm Yeah. Sam: Yeah. It's almost funny. Yeah. No, I I completely agree. So what did we actually rate this film? I I I we haven't what do we what was the what was our nice letterbox ratings here? Daniel (Pacco): gee, you guys are gonna hate me. I'm I'm curious what Corin put down. I never saw you put a rating in. Corey: ha I haven't put one down yet, but I'll probably it would either Daniel (Pacco): If you say five stars, come on. Corey: be three and a half or a four. Daniel (Pacco): Whoa, that's higher. Geez. Yeah. And I go ready or not a four. Fucking hell. Yeah, go. Sam: That's it's quite significantly higher than what I did. I rated Yeah. I gave this one a two. And I think that is almost I think more I sit on like that was probably being a bit generous. But I did put the review as terrible, but I mean I had a good time. Daniel (Pacco): Hey, you can be honest here. Well, Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): if we're talking ratings, I think I gave it half a star out of five. I just wanted it to end, mate. Look, Sam: yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I only reason I gave it half of the star was that armed gunman scene and maybe a chuckle here and there, but mate, the whole film was a drag. Sam: So yeah, I I had a good I think when you watch it with someone, it inherently is a little bit funnier because you can laugh at it. Whereas like when you are watching it by yourself on your phone, like you know, no one's seeing me, it you're you're probably a little bit more embarrassed to yourself. You're like you're probably not laughing. Yeah If Daniel (Pacco): look, I was beyond embarrassed. Words can't describe how I felt watching that. Sam: your your wife will walk in be what are you watching? Like, pornography. I'm watching pornography. Yep, that's it. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That stuff. Sam: Yep. the pornography. Yes, not watching the onion movie. Daniel (Pacco): my god. Do I ever would I recommend it to anybody? look, just as look, watch this, tell me what you think. That'd be the only reason. Someone like a movie critic Sam: I wouldn't. Daniel (Pacco): like you guys. Sam: Wouldn't want to subject someone to this. Corey: But I need it. Sam: I'm sorry, Corey, I know there's I know there's I know there's some nostalgic feel here for you, but whoa, it was it was tough. Corey: No, no, that's okay, guys. yeah, Anita Sam: Ha ha Corey: actually recommended it to her work colleague today. They watched the trailer, she's like, This is hilarious, so they're watching it tonight, so yeah. Yeah, so Sam: Well have to check in and tell us what they think of that. Daniel (Pacco): Can you yeah, just post us a message. I'm so curious. Sam: Ha ha ha. dear. Well, do we have anything else we want to say? I Daniel (Pacco): The odd. Sam: I think we've I think like like the film, we've we've it's gone on long enough here. I don't know about you guys. Is there anything more we could possibly say about the onion movie? Would you want an onion movie sequel? Corey: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I'm actually curious how it will go in today's day and age, you know, with the whole world Sam: It probably would be better now, yeah. Daniel (Pacco): No but I mean Corey: You reckon? Daniel (Pacco): no no but see how woke the world is? I I don't mean to be Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): that guy saying it, but I mean it's twenty twenty six. People do call people snowflakes these days, so and they Sam: Yeah. Yes, yes. Corey: Mm. Daniel (Pacco): get offended by that term. So imagine another onion Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): movie coming out with today's Sam: It'd be in a different line, yeah. There'll be there'd be yes. I get ya. Corey: Yeah, people are getting upset and offended by what was it, Scary Movie Six trailer. So Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Sam: Yeah. Corey: about like that little skit on the train about the they them pronouns. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): shit. Corey: So I feel like yeah, that yeah, the Onion movie would definitely offend people these days. Sam: yes. Yes. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: yes. Daniel (Pacco): I I'm not sure if you guys watched the movie. It was Ben Stiller's Tropic Thunder. Have you guys seen Yeah. Sam: Tropic Thunder. Yeah. yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I recall a couple of years ago that people were demanding him to set an apology just by all the racial terms and all that stuff. And this movie came out in like what, two thousand and six? Like I know it was borderline back Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): then, but now yeah, no, you wouldn't release something like that. Sam: Yeah, I think that's the thing. It's it's when they're borderline, but they I would I mean Tropic Thunder definitely ages better than than the onion movie, sorry. But there's a lot of really good stuff on that there probably there are parts of Tropic Thunder that don't age well, but I think the majority of it is still bloody funny. Daniel (Pacco): It was a conflict. Sam: And I and I think that how and again, obviously very different films in regards to that. But probably the one that doesn't age well is the Robert Downey Jr. I mean but it it's made to not age well with Robert Downey Jr. doing the blackface. Like I mean, that was never okay. It wasn't okay then. Daniel (Pacco): I was playing an Aussie who was playing a black guy who playing What's Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): the quote in that movie? You're I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude. You're the dude that don't Sam: Dude playing a t Yes. Corey: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): know what dude he is. fuck. Sam: we can put that on the list one day. I'm sure that'll come up then. Tropic Thunder. There's I b I I could be totally wrong here, but I believe there's a sequ somewhat of a a spin off in the works of Les Grossman, the guy that is pla you know, the the movie exec that's played by Tom Cruise? Yeah. I Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, mm, mm. Corey: Mm. Sam: believe there's something in the works with him there. I would love to see that again. He was yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, I'd love to. I thought they would canceled that though, but look I could be wrong. They've probably updated it. But yeah. Sam: Who knows? Look, I'm I'm in and out of the movie industry in the news these days. I I recently saw someone from my old from my old work and they mentioned something about about some you know, upcoming movies and I said I d wouldn't have a clue what's coming up. I know there's some big movies, but the small stuff I have no idea about. And my wife's still not my wife, my well, we're not married yet. My fiance, sorry, still still works in the industry, so I should know, but like yeah, I'm just so terrible at knowing what's coming out these days. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. You let yourself go, mate. What the hell? Sam: I really did, I really did. I know. God, children change you. Well, Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: speaking of movies, because that's what we do, I believe it's my turn for the next movie pick, right? Now, we've done hor we've done a little horror. We've Daniel (Pacco): Or all right. Sam: done a little bit of done a little bit of comedy. I think we can stick in the comedy direction for a bit. I feel like I I need to laugh. but I wanna laugh consistently longer and better. So Daniel (Pacco): And not feel bad about it. Sam: Yeah, and not feel bad about it. this movie that I picked actually I only recently saw for the first time, maybe in the last like two years. my fiance recommended it and something that was made in two thousand and one and she said, This is my memory of it being the funniest thing ever. And I was so skeptical. I was like, this looks shit. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: Watched it. One of my favorite movies. I love that. I'm gonna tell you pre-employed. I just I love this movie. We're gonna watch next week. We're gonna watch Rat Race. Have you guys seen this? Daniel (Pacco): Rat Ray. No. Corey: yeah, I just watched it a couple of weeks back. No. Sam: I'm sorry. But well. It's it's a fun movie. And I have so many things to Corey: It is fun. Sam: say about it. Yeah, Paco, you're in for a treat. Cory, you get to watch it again. Yeah. You watched it recently? Yes. But yes, so Daniel (Pacco): All right, all right. Just lie on your resume, Corey. Just lie on the SAE. Yeah, yeah. Corey: Ha ha. No, I was funny. Sam: sorry. Corey: I was just gonna say I was funny 'cause I kept it popped up on Netflix a lot for me and I said to Anita, I'm like, I wanna watch this with you and she saw the trailer and she's like, This looks boring as Sam: Yeah. Corey: and yeah, but it was like an all star cast. It was like so many people that we knew and that we love. So we were like, nah, we gotta watch it Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Corey: and anyway, I'll s I'll save it for next week. Sam: Yeah, well I was gonna say, yeah, we get into it already, but that totally reminds me there were a couple of community cast members in there that popped up. Did you guys see there was Joel McHale, just pops up for a second, who plays Jeff Winger on community. And there was also Jim Rash, who is Dean Pelton with hair. He was the the director in one of the skits. But Daniel (Pacco): didn't Corey: I don't watch community so I don't know any of Sam: you don't like commun you should can you do me a favor? It's on Netflix. Yeah. Go. Just watch one episode of Community. Just to watch the first one. That's it. It's a sitcom. It's it's funny. Fantastic cast. Just watch it. And it's one of my favorite sitcoms. It's just so great. It's like a film nerd sitcom. And it goes, it's fantastic. Yeah. Please just watch Corey: It better be. Sam: one ep watch one episode. You'll love the cast. Just one. It's 20 minutes. It's so good. Daniel (Pacco): He he's not gonna watch it. Corey: Ha ha. Sam: There is a Corey: All right, I'll watch it. Sam: I could sell you I mean I could sell you in the long the long sale of it. There is some of the most epic T V shows. It's it's co created by the guy that made Rick and Morty. and there's also like a lot of it's like all-star cast directors. So, you know, the Russo brothers that do all the Marvel films, like the Inventions films, they've directed like some of the best episodes of community. Justin Lynn, who did some good Fast and Furious movies, did a bunch of a bunch of episodes, including the Paintball episodes, which are just fucking legendary. just just like it's like high concept, out of this world, film nerdy. Fun stuff. Just watch an episode and you'll love it. Please. Corey: Would do. Daniel (Pacco): All right. Okay, are you gonna Corey: All right. Daniel (Pacco): give us like twenty questions and answers out to make sure we watched it or? Nah man. Nah. Yeah. You know what's gonna happen, Cora? well. Sam: Yes, yes, I'll wait, so Paco, you have you watched community either? my fucking god. Both of you guys. You can stress me out. I've l I'm on a Corey: Now I got two things to watch. Sam: it's a twenty minute episode, guys. Well Anyway, okay, so we're gonna watch Rat Race next week and we're gonna chat about that one. So two thousand and one, Rat Race, good time. Let's jump into it. But Thanks for joining us for Pile of Mates this week. Mate. We love Daniel (Pacco): Night. Corey: I Sam: you guys hanging out here with us. Hope you're enjoying each episode. And if you at all are interested in what other movies we're watching, hit us up on Letterboxd. I'll put our Letterboxand handles in the show notes So you guys can see what other movies we're watching and I can talk about community a lot more. Daniel (Pacco): Fuck. Sam: Thanks guys. You guys have anything else to say or Daniel (Pacco): rat race it is. I'm keen. Whatever the hell it is. Sam: Rat race it is. Let's get the rat race. And Paco, you're gonna love this 'cause it's gonna it's all star cast and s and and all star musical acts as well, so you're gonna love it. Daniel (Pacco): Okay, look I'm not gonna watch trailer, I'm just gonna dive right in. So Easy done. Alright, Sam: All right. All right. Well we'll see you guys next week. Daniel (Pacco): catch you then. Corey: Tootaloo.