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The Most Expensive Mistake Canadian Owners Make Before Selling · Selling Your Canadian Business

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  SPEAKER_00: You know, there's this uh this statistic about climbing Mount Everest that always completely reorients how I think about risk.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: The vast majority of fatal accidents, they don't actually happen on the you know, the arduous, grueling climb up to the summit.
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  SPEAKER_00: They happen on the descent.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because the summit is well, it's an illusion of completion.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's really only the halfway point.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Climbers catch this uh summit fever, exhaust absolutely all their energy, their oxygen, and their adrenaline, just getting to the peak.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then they drastically underestimate the logistics and the you know the highly specialized team required to actually get back down the mountain safely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell And as we dig into the research for today's deep dive, that Everest descent is just I mean, it's the absolute perfect metaphor for what we are unpacking here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell It really is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for taking the time to join us for this deep dive today.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're talking directly to you, the Canadian business owners listening, people who have spent 20, maybe 30 years grinding, surviving, making payroll.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Building a massively successful company right up to that summit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then when it comes time to finally exit to descend that mountain and capture the actual liquid value of what they've built over decades, they stumble.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they stumble not because the business itself is flawed, but because they fundamentally miscalculate who they need roped to them on the way down.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a staggering blind spot.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are pulling some incredible insights from chapter two of a book called Selling Your Canadian Business.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um the numbers we are looking at are a massive wake-up call for anyone in the entrepreneurial space.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Yeah, the data is pretty shocking.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Right now, 76% of Canadian small business owners are planning to exit their business in the next decade.
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  SPEAKER_00: That represents uh$2 trillion poised to change hands.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yet incredibly, only 9% of those owners have a formal written succession plan.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell There is just a massive, incredibly dangerous gap between the ambition to sell and the actual preparation required to do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what's our mission today?
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell The mission of our discussion today is to explore the single most expensive mistake these business owners make, which is spending three decades building a company, but only taking about 30 days to pick the team to help sell it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Okay, let's unpack this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because selling a privately owned business is clearly not a solo act.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell No, not at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Our sources point to a core argument called the generalist trap.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is, you know, the false assumption that the very people who helped you build the business are the right people to help you sell it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: The generalist trap is arguably the most common pitfall.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell But I have to play devil's advocate for you listening.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's say I have a day-to-day accountant and a general corporate lawyer.
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  SPEAKER_00: They've been with me for 15 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: They know where all the bodies are buried, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: They know the company inside and out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell So doesn't bringing in total strangers right before the biggest transaction of my life feel like introducing a necessary risk?
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Well, that loyalty is a very natural instinct.
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  SPEAKER_01: You trust the people who helped you build the castle.
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  SPEAKER_01: But the skill set required to manage a business day-to-day is fundamentally opposed to the skill set required to liquidate it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Really?
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  SPEAKER_00: How so?
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Ross Powell Well, mergers and acquisitions, MA.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's its own highly specialized discipline.
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  SPEAKER_01: The adversaries are different, the timelines are compressed, and the leverage points are just entirely foreign to a general practitioner.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Let's use an analogy here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Using your day-to-day corporate lawyer to negotiate an MA deal feels like um hiring a nightclub security guard to run an airport control tower.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Oh, that's a brilliant way to frame it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: The security guard's entire job is to say no and keep risk out of the building.
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  SPEAKER_00: But selling a business is about managing a massive risky flow of moving parts safely and quickly.
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  SPEAKER_00: You need an air traffic controller.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: The security guard instinct actually kills deals.
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  SPEAKER_01: A sale transaction asks questions that a general corporate lawyer or a daily tax accountant almost never has to answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like what kind of questions?
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  SPEAKER_01: For example, is the deal structured as a share sale or an asset sale?
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  SPEAKER_01: Do the indemnification caps and survival periods put you at reasonable risk?
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  SPEAKER_01: Or are you still on the hook for millions of dollars three years after you've supposedly walked away?
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  SPEAKER_00: Wait, let's pause for a second.
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  SPEAKER_00: For those of us who don't spend our lives reading legal contracts, what exactly is an indemnification cap and a survival period?
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  SPEAKER_01: Think of it as a financial clawback.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's say you sell your business for$20 million.
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  SPEAKER_01: Two years later, a former employee sues the company for something that happened while you are still the owner.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: The new buyer will look at the purchase agreement to see if they can force you to pay for that lawsuit.
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  SPEAKER_01: The survival period dictates how long after the sale you are still liable.
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  SPEAKER_01: Maybe 18 months, maybe five years.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the cap?
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  SPEAKER_01: The indemnification cap puts a ceiling on how much of your sale price they can claw back.
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  SPEAKER_01: A generalist lawyer might accidentally leave you exposed to a$10 million clawback for a decade.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is terrifying.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whereas an MA specialist knows the current market standard is perhaps a 10% cap lasting only 18 months.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if your trusted everyday advisors learning how to negotiate these specific caps on the job, that education is happening at your expense.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that expense is measured in hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars.
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  SPEAKER_01: Learning on the job is the ultimate deal killer.
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  SPEAKER_01: You need a team of highly calibrated specialists.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which leads us to the very first seat to fill on this advisory dream team.
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  SPEAKER_00: And looking at our sources, this is the one almost no one expects.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this surprises a lot of people.
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  SPEAKER_00: The executive coach, or even a licensed therapist, I have to admit, I was confused by this.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are talking about a highly complex financial and legal transaction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why on earth are we bringing feelings into a boardroom?
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell What's fascinating here is that selling a business is not primarily a financial transaction.
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  SPEAKER_01: The money is just the math.
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  SPEAKER_01: Selling a business is actually an identity transaction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Ross Powell An identity transaction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Break that down for me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Think about this from the owner's perspective.
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  SPEAKER_01: For 20 or 30 years, they have been the absolute center of gravity in their universe.
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  SPEAKER_01: They sign the checks, they answer the hardest calls, they dictate the culture.
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  SPEAKER_01: Being the boss isn't just what they do, it is fundamentally who they are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Ross Powell So if you remove the business, you remove the identity.
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  SPEAKER_01: Precisely.
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  SPEAKER_01: The day after closing, that role vanishes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your phone stops ringing.
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  SPEAKER_01: An executive coach who specializes in founders does three critical things.
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  SPEAKER_01: First, they pressure test the why.
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  SPEAKER_00: The why.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like why they are selling.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: If an owner wakes up in January and says, I'm exhausted, let's sell.
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  SPEAKER_01: A coach forces them to figure out if they are actually ready to exit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or if they just had a terrible fourth quarter in a fight with their top salesperson.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Ross Powell That makes perfect sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: You never want to trigger a multimillion dollar liquidation just because you are having a stressful month.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: You need someone to make sure the ladder is leaning against the right wall before you start climbing down.
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  SPEAKER_00: What's the second thing they do?
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  SPEAKER_01: They act as emotional armor for due diligence.
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  SPEAKER_01: When a buyer comes in to inspect your business, they are looking for flaws.
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  SPEAKER_01: They will critique your margins, your team, your software.
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  SPEAKER_01: It feels incredibly invasive and often becomes intensely adversarial.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can imagine it's like someone telling you your baby is ugly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Furthermore, buyers often use a tactic called a retrade, where they try to drop the purchase price at the 11th hour based on some minor issue they found.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that sounds infuriating.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if an owner hasn't been coached through this emotional roller coaster, their ego gets bruised.
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  SPEAKER_01: They get defensive, they might flip the table and blow up a perfectly good deal out of pure pride.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the coach manages the emotional turbulence during the deal, but eventually the paperwork is signed and the deal closes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't the owner just ride off into the sunset?
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  SPEAKER_00: Why is there still a psychological risk after the check clears?
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Ross Powell Because of the dreaded post-sale question, who am I now?
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  SPEAKER_01: Owners need a credible, vivid picture of life after the exit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is it philanthropy, starting a family office, buying a vineyard?
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  SPEAKER_00: They need a plan.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: An owner with a clear post-exit identity negotiates from a position of profound strength because they are running toward something.
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  SPEAKER_01: An owner who doesn't know what they are going to do on a random Tuesday morning will subconsciously drag their feet, argue over trivial details, and sabotage the deal just to hold on to the business a little longer.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is a profound psychological trap.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the coach ensures the owner isn't their own worst enemy, but once they are mentally anchored, they have to actually face the open market.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's where they need someone to physically shield them from the buyers.
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  SPEAKER_00: Enter the MA advisor or the investment banker.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: The MA advisor runs the process.
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  SPEAKER_01: And their primary directive, above absolutely everything else, is to create competitive tension.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's visualize the alternative first.
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  SPEAKER_00: Say an owner decides to skip the advisor.
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  SPEAKER_00: They say, I know my industry.
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  SPEAKER_00: What is the actual mechanism of failure there?
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell The mechanism of failure is exhaustion and lack of leverage.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are trying to run a full-time, demanding business while simultaneously fighting a complex war on a second front.
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  SPEAKER_00: That sounds exhausting.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is.
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  SPEAKER_01: When you negotiate directly, you are a single target.
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  SPEAKER_01: A sophisticated buyer knows you are tired and tired people concede points.
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  SPEAKER_01: But if you hire an MA advisor, they don't just talk to one buyer.
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  SPEAKER_01: They run a disciplined, confidential auction.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they play them off each other, like pitting private equity buyer A against strategic buyer B?
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: How does that actually sound in a negotiation?
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  SPEAKER_01: An advisor goes to buyer A and says, We have a strong offer on the table from another party.
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  SPEAKER_01: You have 48 hours to improve your terms, or you're out of the process.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah?
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  SPEAKER_01: That is competitive tension.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the owner never has to be the bad guy.
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  SPEAKER_01: The advisor takes all the friction.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the data backing this up is undeniable.
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  SPEAKER_01: Peer-reviewed studies show that an advisor-led auction brings an acquisition premium of 6 to 25% higher than going it alone.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a huge bump.
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  SPEAKER_01: Separate research shows EBITDA multiples are about 1.5 turns higher.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hold on, I'm going to stop you there to translate some Wall Street jargon.
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  SPEAKER_00: 1.5 turns of EBITDA.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's break that down for a layman.
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  SPEAKER_00: What is EBITDA and what on earth is a turn?
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  SPEAKER_01: Fair question.
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  SPEAKER_01: EBITDA stands for earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization.
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  SPEAKER_00: Quite the acronym.
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  SPEAKER_01: For our purposes, just think of it as your company's raw bottom line cash profit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Businesses are typically sold on a multiple of that profit.
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  SPEAKER_01: A turn is simply one unit of that multiple.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if my business makes$2 million in profit and the market rate is a 4x multiple, I sell for$8 million.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, if an MA advisor can increase that multiple by 1.5 turns, they bump you from a 4X multiple to a 5.5X multiple.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let me do the math.
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  SPEAKER_01: On$2 million of profit, that extra$1.5 turns equals an additional$3 million in your pocket at closing.
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  SPEAKER_00: $3 million extra dollars.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just from having an advisor.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: The advisor's fee is a tiny fraction of the immense value they generate just by driving the price up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here's where it gets really interesting, though.
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  SPEAKER_00: The advisor creates millions of dollars out of thin air just through negotiation mechanics.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that price is just a theoretical number on a term sheet until it's legally binding.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which transitions us back to the legal side.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell We touched on this with the air traffic controller analogy, but let's go deeper into the MA lawyer.
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  SPEAKER_00: We know they handle indemnification caps, but what else makes them fundamentally different from a general corporate lawyer?
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Velocity.
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  SPEAKER_01: General corporate lawyers are trained to mitigate all hypothetical risks, no matter how microscopically small.
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  SPEAKER_01: In an MA context, that instinct leads them to slow walk documents.
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  SPEAKER_00: Slow walk them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they will argue with the buyer's counsel over an inconsequential comma for three weeks.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: And in MA, time kills deals.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why does time kill deals?
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  SPEAKER_01: Does the buyer just get bored?
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  SPEAKER_00: The buyer gets fatigued.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: But more importantly, the longer a deal drags on, the more external variables can go wrong.
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  SPEAKER_01: A key customer might leave, interest rates might spike, a global pandemic could hit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Transactions literally die of delay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So a specialist knows what to ignore.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: An MA lawyer knows exactly which risks in a contract are actual deal breakers and which are standard market practice that you just have to accept.
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  SPEAKER_01: They know how to allocate risk appropriately, and crucially, they do it fast.
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  SPEAKER_01: You need legal counsel that is both incredibly thorough and remarkably swift.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the advisor drives the price up and the lawyer locks it in quickly and safely.
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  SPEAKER_00: But surviving the contract doesn't mean anything if the government takes half your profits anyway.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now we enter the tax minefield.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about the timeline for protecting the actual cash.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this introduces a massive constraint, the 24-month clock.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is arguably the most critical timeline in the entire process.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is where generational wealth is either permanently preserved or permanently lost to taxes.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: Our sources highlight the lifetime capital gains exemption or the LCGE.
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  SPEAKER_00: In Canada, this allows an individual to shelter roughly$1.25 million from tax.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if a husband, wife, and two adult children are all shareholders, you could be sheltering$5 million completely tax-free.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the government doesn't just hand this out, do they?
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Not at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: To qualify, your shares must be designated as qualified small business corporation shares or QSBC.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the Canada Revenue Agency has incredibly strict mathematical tests for this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell What's the hardest test to pass?
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  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell The most dangerous one is the 24-month rule.
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  SPEAKER_01: It legally mandates that at least 50% of the fair market value of the company's assets must have been used in an active business for 24 continuous months prior to the sale.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Let me make sure I'm wrapping my head around this.
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  SPEAKER_00: If a business has been highly profitable and the owner just leaves all that excess cash sitting around in the corporate checking account, that cash isn't actively doing anything.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: So if that pile of cash grows so big that it represents more than half the company's value, they fail the test and lose the entire tax exemption.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell That is precisely how it works.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: And you cannot fix this at the last minute.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you call a transaction tax accountant three weeks before you sign a letter of intent and ask them to clean up the balance sheet, it is mathematically impossible.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like calling a personal trainer three weeks before you are scheduled to run a marathon.
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  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter if they are the best trainer on earth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your body physically needs time to adapt.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your balance sheet needs time to adapt.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's a perfect analogy.
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  SPEAKER_01: You need to hire a transaction tax specialist at least 24 months before you go to market.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell So what do they actually do over those two years?
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: They will systematically extract those passive assets, you know, the excess cash, the real estate, stock portfolios, and they perfectly structure your corporation so that when the clock runs out, you smoothly qualify for millions in tax shelters.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell 24 months.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: That is the magic number.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: But there is another numbers person on the stream team, and I really want to dig into this because it blew my mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: The quality of earnings CPA or the QOE.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yes.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: Wait.
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  SPEAKER_01: The QOE.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: I already get my books audited every year by an expensive accounting firm.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't an audit prove my financials are rock solid?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: Well, an audit proves your math is legally accurate.
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  SPEAKER_01: It proves you haven't committed fraud.
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  SPEAKER_01: A quality of earnings report is entirely different.
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  SPEAKER_01: Think of an audit as a surveyor proving you own the land.
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  SPEAKER_01: A QOE is like a pre-listing home inspection.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I like that comparison.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: A tax accountant's daily job is to look backward and legally minimize your profits so you pay less to the government.
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  SPEAKER_01: But a buyer wants to see maximum profit.
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  SPEAKER_01: A QOE CPA steps in to normalize the historical earnings and show a buyer the absolute maximum sustainable cash flow.
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  SPEAKER_00: How do they normalize the earnings?
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  SPEAKER_00: Give me an example of what that looks like in the real world.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: Let's say you run your personal vehicle, like a$100,000 truck, through the business as an expense.
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  SPEAKER_01: It shrinks your profit on paper, which is great for taxes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: But a private equity buyer doesn't need that truck.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: A QOE CPA will take that$100,000 expense and add it back to your profit column.
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  SPEAKER_01: They strip out all the owner benefit expenses, one-time legal fees or non-recurring revenue.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they are essentially finding hidden profit.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: They define the true defensible run rate of the business.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: By doing a sell side Q of E, you define the narrative.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: And because businesses sell on a multiple, finding an extra$100,000 in profit is huge.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: If you are selling at a 5x multiple, that one truck just added half a million dollars to your purchase price.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: Instead of letting the buyer's accountants come in and aggressively poke holes in your financials to drive the price down, you present a bulletproof, normalized report.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: Aaron Powell Does it really make that much of a difference?
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: The data shows that doing this yields an average valuation lift of 0.4 turns of EBITDA.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: On a few million in profit, that's hundreds of thousands of dollars just for doing the math early.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: You never want the buyer to understand your own numbers better than you do.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: So we've optimized the mental state, maximized the valuation, shielded the transaction from liability, and sheltered the cash from taxes.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: The deal closes, the check clears, we are done.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: Why do our sources say we need a wealth advisor on the team before the sale?
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell Because the day after the sale, the owner wakes up asset rich and cash liquid for the first time in their entire life.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: The wealth has suddenly migrated from inside a corporate structure to outside it.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: That's a huge shift.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: It is.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: The estate implications and the philanthropic options change overnight.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: If you wait until the cash hits your personal bank account, you have already missed the window for several of the most valuable financial planning moves.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: What kind of moves?
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: Things like estate freezes, where you lock in the current value of your wealth so that all future investment growth goes directly to your children, tax-free.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Or setting up specific holding companies.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: Those structures must be legally established before the liquidity event happens.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the advisory team is massive.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: The identity coach, the MA advisor, the MA lawyer, the transaction tax specialist, the QOE accountant, and the wealth advisor.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: But practically speaking, how do you actually find these rare specialists in a country the size of Canada?
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: Aaron Powell It feels like a huge market, but if we connect this to the bigger picture, the MA universe is incredibly tiny.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: How tiny?
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, as of late 2024, only about 1.5% of Canadian employer businesses are categorized as medium-sized.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: If you look at actual transactions, in 2023 there were only about 1,600 MA transactions completed in the entire country.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, 1600 deals in all of Canada for a whole year.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: That is nothing.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's a very small sandbox.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: And almost three-quarters of those deals were valued under$50 million.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: Spread across every single sector and every single advisory firm, a really good specialized advisor might only close two to six deals in your specific revenue band in a given year.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're interviewing an advisor and they claim they do 50 deals a year in your exact manufacturing niche, they are probably stretching the truth.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: What is the actual checklist a listener should use to vet these people?
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: Three things.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: First, demand recent comparables.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: You want to see transactions they've closed in the last three to five years that are in your exact sector and at your specific deal size.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, makes sense.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: What's next?
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: Second, and this is the ultimate litmus test.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: Ask them specifically to walk you through a deal that went sideways, a deal that died in due diligence or closed on terrible terms.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because if they claim every deal they touch turns to gold, they are either brand new to the industry or they are lying to your face.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: You need to know how they behave in the trenches when the artillery starts firing.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: Third, ask who is actually doing the physical work.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean?
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: You will often get pitched by a slick, charismatic senior partner, but the minute you sign the engagement letter, your file's handed off to a 24-year-old junior associate.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: You need to look them in the eye and ask, who exactly is going to be answering my panicked phone call at 9 p.m.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: on a Sunday night?
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: So what does this all mean?
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: Let's bring all these threads together for you listening.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: The core paradigm shift here is that this advisory team is not a cost center to be minimized.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: It is an investment.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Paying for an air traffic controller instead of a security guard is the price of having people in the room who will not flinch when the pressure is on.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: You absolutely must prioritize specialists over generalists, and you have to start that 24-month clock immediately.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: The overarching lesson from the data is clear.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: The owners who achieve the best exits rarely have flawless businesses.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: They are simply the ones who prepared the earliest and brought the right specialized guys with them for the descent.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: We want to give a massive thank you to the Shaughnessy group for providing these incredible eye-opening insights.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: If you want to dive deeper into everything we've talked about, you've got to visit their website.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: It is shaughnessy.group.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: Go there for more amazing resources, newsletters, and really comprehensive guides on navigating this exact process.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: The resources they've compiled are a mandatory starting point for anyone even vaguely considering a transition.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: And if you want the full detailed roadmap, including all the interview questions, the red flags, and the complete sequencing we discussed, grab the book, Selling Your Canadian Business Directly on Amazon.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: Just go to Amazon.ca slash DP slash B0GFX WJVXQ.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: Seriously, grab a copy.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Getting back to our Everest analogy, you do not want to conquer the summit of your industry over 30 years only to fall off a cliff on the way down because you brought the wrong map.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: This raises one final important question.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it's something I want to leave you with today.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Lay it on us.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: If selling a business is ultimately an identity transaction that takes 20 years to build and requires two full years of highly specialized planning to properly dismantle, what other major life transitions are you rushing through right now?
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Simply because you assume the people who got you here are the right ones to guide your exit?
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oof.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: Something to definitely think about.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for joining us on this deep dive.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: We'll catch you next time.