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Your Contact List Don Dry? 4 Ways to Get New Leads · Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint

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Today on the podcast, we're going to be looking at what to
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do when your contact list is tapped out.
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In other words, you have a list, people you e-mail people, you
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WhatsApp, you have a contact list, you try and get business
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from that list. You've been sending them
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messages, you've been doing lead nurturing, you've been engaging
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with people on that contact list.
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But man, it looks as if they are tapped out, like people are no
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longer buying. What are you going to do?
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The reason why we're tackling this question today is because
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I've been having a series of chats with Hijabi Divine, a
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listener of the podcast, a new listener, only been listening
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for about two months. And he's in the lighting and
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accessory space and also sells some solar accessories and
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things like that. And his business model is drop
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shipping. So yes, Mr. Divine, if you are
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listening, this is me tackling your question and that is the
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scenario. But before we proceed with that,
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I just want to give a little bit of warning.
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I'm making today's recording at home, so there will be noise in
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the background because it sounds as if my neighbor upstairs is
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pounding yam. Either that or he's cracking
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somebody's skull. So at some point you'll be
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handy. Boom, boom, boom.
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You know, that's from my neighbor and you know, that's
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what happens when you live in, you know, multi segmented flat
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housing. And that's the reason why the
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ideal is have your own mansion, nice mansion, hook it up with
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solar, make sure you have your your own borehole, you know,
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make yourself a nice little paradise.
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So that's the ultimate aim. You know, God willing, our
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containers will arrive. The business will be well so
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that we can set ourselves up nicely.
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So you won't be in the middle of recording a podcast or having a
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business meeting and then somebody will be doing boom,
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boom, boom. And then they'll be wondering,
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where is this guy living? Is he face me?
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I face you. All right.
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My name is Tavishima Ayede. I'm the host of the podcast.
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If you would love to connect with me just like Ajagbe Divine
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did so that if you have questions, comments, queries, or
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So like I said today, you have a contact list, but Omar is as if
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the contact list is tapped out. You're trying to squeeze that
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contact lists. You're trying to squeeze it for
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any last drop of profits, any last drop of money.
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But the more you squeeze and the more you squeeze, money is not
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coming out from that list. What are you going to do?
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So this is the philosophy behind having a contact list.
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Now in traditional sales or marketing circles, it's called
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lead nurturing. Now Aja B Divine has been doing
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a lead in nurturing on WhatsApp. So that means he's been able to
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gather some numbers, whether it's he's been maybe he sent off
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lines before or maybe it's customers he's done business
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with before. But either way, he has a contact
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list people stored on WhatsApp. He has been sending those people
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updates. He has been sending those people
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happy new month, happy Sunday. He has been sending those people
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promo messages, brand new lights from China, 20% discount buy
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now. He has been sending them
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educational content. He has been sending them
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messages just to check up on them.
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Madam, how far, bro? How far?
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You know, those kind of messages, That's what he's been
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doing. All of that, let's just call it
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lead nurturing. That's what he's been doing.
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But there's a big problem when you have a list and you have a
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closed list. By the way, Mr. Divine, pay
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attention. This is what I've been trying to
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get you to understand through the messages, but you're not
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getting it. That's why I said let me make
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this recording. When you have a fixed list,
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there's a limit to how much messaging a list can absorb.
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Think about it as a bucket. You keep pouring water in the
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bucket. There's a limit as to how much
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water can enter into that bucket.
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At a certain amount, you know the bucket is full.
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It just is full. Let me repeat, There's a limit
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to how much messaging one list can absorb if your list is
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static, especially since you are in the business of electrical
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lighting and accessories and things like that.
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Let me break it down, Mr. Devine.
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If I'm wrong, by the way, let me know.
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Some of the fixtures that you're selling are LED lighting.
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Unfortunately, LED lighting lasts decades.
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It lasts decades. If somebody buys an LED light
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from you now and they put in their house, you know, except if
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they have irresponsible children who like to throw slippers at
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the ceiling, that lighting is going to last a decade, 10
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years. So the person that has bought
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from you now, quite frankly speaking, as far as LED light is
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concerned, don't expect to hear from that person another five,
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maybe 10 years because it is LED lighting and that is just how
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long they last. Except if they have
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irresponsible children who throw slippers at the ceiling, Amazon
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friends that you sell good quality product.
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And if you sell good quality products, then you know for sure
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this thing is going to last a decade at least.
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Now incandescent lighting, that's the one that we grew up
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with. That's normal bulb, that yellow
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bulb, incandescent lighting ahead that one last month.
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So somebody can buy from you in January and then by March they
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need another one because you know, Nepal current will
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fluctuate. The bulb will now blow.
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Boo. If it will just bust, then they
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need a new one. Or they have irresponsible
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children who like to throw slippers at the ceiling and then
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you scatter the bulb bash. Then you buy a new light bulb.
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So econdicent lighting. I'll be incandescent here.
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Incandescent lighting divine. You let me know how the real
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pronunciation that one last months.
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So remember, we like those of us late 70s, early 80s children.
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That is all we grew up with econdicent lighting.
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Then there's new age technology called halogen.
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Halogen bulb. Halogen bulb, unfortunately, on
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average that will last maybe like 2-3 years.
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So in other words, Mr. Devine, anybody who has bought halogen
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bulb from you now in 2025, you won't smell them again until
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about 2028, especially if you sell good quality product, The
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bulb is going to last two or three years.
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Then there's CFL, I think that is compact fluorescent lighting.
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Now, Mr. Devine, if you sell good quality product, that one
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on average can last anything between 3:00 to 10 years, except
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if the person has irresponsible children who like to throw
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slippers at the ceiling. So you can see, Devine, that
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you're selling stuff that people don't need every day.
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People don't need lighting every day.
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If you sell them LED in 2025, the quickest the person will
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call you again is 2035. If you sell them the old school
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incandescent lighting, no problem, you can sell it in
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January, they will come again in March.
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But halogene, if they buy halogene from you 2025, the
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quickest you will see them again is 2028 CFL compact fluorescent.
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If you sell them good quality one, the quickest you will see
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them is 2028 or 2035. You are selling stuff that
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people do not need every day. So for Someone Like You, Mr.
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Devine, quite frankly, my suspicion is that your contact
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list is tapped out. The people that could have
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bought have already bought and quite frankly, they don't need
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another one. So somebody who has a similar
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strategy and let's say the person is selling cars, you can
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run into this problem too because people don't buy cars
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every single year. The last time mom, she was here,
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I told my mom, see that? Look, mom, see, I'm tired of the
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stress. She said, what stress?
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I said, I can't keep living like this.
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She said, what's the problem? I said I'm spending too much
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time at the mechanic. So I told her mom, see.
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She said, yes, my son, I say one day I will blow.
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She laughed. I said, mom, see, I'm telling
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you one day I will blow. And then she laughed and I said,
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and when I blew, I will buy my cars brand new, clean, import
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them from America, clean from the factory street.
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I will use the car for two years, maybe three years Max
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because I don't want to hear any kind of mechanic whatever.
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The only thing I want to do is just to be changing oil.
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I don't even want to change tire.
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That's why I saw use it for 2-3 years.
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After that, three years Max, I will sell off the car and I'll
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buy another car clean straight from the factory, imported
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direct from America or from Belgium.
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You know, if I'm getting a BMW, sorry, Germany, if I'm getting
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BMW for my fleet. And I told her that's what I'm
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going to be doing for my cars. Brand new TI robber straight
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from the factory, sell it off in 2-3 years, buy again.
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Brand new. Obviously laughter.
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She said my son, you know that in this part of the world
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doesn't have people use cars. I say I understand mommy, but
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for me when I blow, that's how I'm going to be using my cars.
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Said OK, no problem, I'll be praying for you.
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I said thank you mommy, that's what I need.
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I need your prayers. So assuming you sell cars now
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and your WhatsApp group is full of people like me, you sell
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somebody kind 2025, you will not hear from that person again
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until 2028. And that is best case scenario
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that you're dealing with guys like me who don't vex.
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I say, look, I'm tired of this Nigerian system, so every three
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years I must buy my car brand new.
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Outside of that, let's be real here, this is Niger.
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You know, people change cars if they're quick.
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Maybe five years, seven years, average person, let's say
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decade, let's say 10 years. You know, I'm not lying.
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Just look around your family. You see what I mean?
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You probably know an uncle, an auntie who has been driving the
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same car for 20 years. So you know what I'm saying?
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It's true. So if you sell cars and this is
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your strategy, then chances are your list is already tapped out.
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There's no fresh blood flowing into this list.
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None. So the people who are on the
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list who could have bought, most frankly, quite frankly have
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already bought and have no need to buy again.
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So for someone using this kind of strategy to grow your
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business, you have a WhatsApp list, lead nurturing, trying to
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prime it for sales. After a while, it doesn't matter
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how many times you squeeze, you have squeezed all the blood out
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of that list. The blood is gone.
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You need some fresh blood. You need to get new contacts.
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And Mr. Devine, that's what I've been trying to get you to
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understand. Remember, I asked you 3
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questions. I, I didn't mention the
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questions here in the podcast episode, but on the chat, I
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asked him three questions. You didn't answer #3 that is
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what #3 is about. What is the plan for getting
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some new blood into this list? So yes, Mr. Devine, there are
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other problems, yes, that we need to solve, but we still have
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to answer this number three, what is the plan for getting new
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blood into this list? Because now you can't squeeze
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any more blood out of it. You can't.
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By the way, those of you who sell things like maybe
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children's pajamas, children's shoes, back to school supplies,
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you know, you won't run into these sorts of things because,
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you know, children grow up pretty fast.
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And believe me, I'm facing this thing right now.
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I was chilling yesterday trying to watch something on TV.
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Then my wife should just say, which of these shoes do you
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like? And I don't like hearing that
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question because I know what comes next.
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I said, I said, OK, I like this one.
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I said, is it time? She said, yes, so it's time.
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I said, what happened to his shoes?
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He said, well, you know, he's growing bigger.
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It's time for us to now buy size 37.
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This one that he's wearing now is 37.
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I said, OK, I guess you should now buy size 38.
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That's shoes for my son. So those of you who sell things
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like that, you know, you won't face this problem because people
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need to buy quick, quick, quick because you buy your shoes, you
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buy a child brand new shoes in January and you think, ah, I can
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rest one year. Then by July somebody's saying,
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Dad, my shoes are tight. I'm like, what do you mean just
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shoes are tight? We just bought these things in
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January. I said, Dad, the shoes are tight
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and say, bring it here, let me see.
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And then you look at it and true, true.
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The thing is tight. So those of you who sell
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pajamas, you sell shoes, you sell back to school, you won't
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be experiencing this problem because your contact list, they
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need to buy the need to reopen. But for other businesses where
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you know, people don't need your stuff every day, they don't need
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it every month, they don't need it every couple of weeks, you
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will run into this problem. So you need to get some new
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blood into your contact list. So, Mr. Devine, that was what
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Question 3 is about. What is the plan for getting you
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new lifeblood into that list? Now, I'm going to give you a
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couple of ideas, and I'm going to give you some advice at the
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end. And the advice applies not just
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to people in Mr. Divine's position, but a whole host of
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other people who are listening to the podcast right now.
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Since Divine your strategy is WhatsApp, let's limit this thing
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to WhatsApp. I have said in the past several
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times on this podcast when I was talking about Google My Business
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and WhatsApp WhatsApp my WhatsApp business.
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Yes, WhatsApp business. Now for those of you who
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WhatsApp is the key thing of your strategy, you should be
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taking advantage of this whole Click to chat thing because
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WhatsApp has made it in such a way.
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And believe me, the first time I tried it back as a wedding
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photographer, I was stunned and I was really, really happy.
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I liked the fact that somebody would be browsing my stuff on
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Google and then they will click one link and then next thing
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they will end up in my inbox and then we're chatting.
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Nothing used to blow my mind. We should be taking advantage of
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this Click to chat thing. It hasn't gone away.
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It is still there where WhatsApp will generate one link.
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You take that link and share it on as many places as possible.
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Whenever somebody clicks on that link, they end up straight in
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your WhatsApp box. Hi, hello.
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Good morning Sir. Are you available?
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How soon can I deliver? How much do you cost, blah blah
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blah. Put it everywhere.
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So divine Click to chat, the Click to chat link, that is what
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you should be taking advantage of.
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Put that thing on your website so that random people who are
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coming across your website will see it and they will click and
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enter straight into your inbox. Then they can start new
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questions. This chandelier that you have,
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do you have it in silver? This chandelier that you have,
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do you have it in purple? This halogen lighting and the
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thing looks OK. Do you have it in green?
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Put it on your website, put it in your e-mail signature so that
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whenever you're sending emails to people, it is there.
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The option is there, somebody can click.
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That's as they finish reading your e-mail and they say they
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Click to link at the bottom. They can click on it.
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Next thing, bam, they are in your WhatsApp inbox.
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You're bringing them into your WhatsApp ecosystem.
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Put this link on your social media.
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You have TikTok. Put it on your TikTok so that
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somebody's watching your video. They're laughing.
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They say, oh this divine. These guys very, very, very
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funny. These guys very, very funny.
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What's this where the guy doing what's up?
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They just click and they go bump straight into your inbox.
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Put it on your Instagram, put it on your whatever your Facebook.
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For those of you who are using WhatsApp business to grow your
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business, this Click to Click to chat thing, especially since
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this thing is free. Look, take advantage of this
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thing. You don't know, maybe in another
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five years WhatsApp will say why I start paying for this thing.
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Right now it's free. Take advantage of it.
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Create your link and yeah, create your link from your
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WhatsApp profile and then share that link everywhere.
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People should be tired of seeing that your link.
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So click the chat, take advantage of that link.
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Then you can also run social media ads, social media
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advertisements, and then the call to action will be for
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people to click on the link below to chat with you in
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WhatsApp. So don't run the advertisement
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so that they just land on your Instagram handle and they see
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your wonderful lighting. You run the advertisement, your
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profile handle will be there anyway.
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So if they want to Click to the profile, they will see it.
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Well, the call to action below will be to find out more, to
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learn more about these prices, to learn about delivery, to
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learn about different options that we have, to learn about
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pricing, to learn about this, to enquire about that, click on the
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link below to chat with me. So when you run your social
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media advertisements, that is the call to action.
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Click on the link below to chat. Then you're bringing people into
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your WhatsApp ecosystem. You can see how this way you are
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bringing new blood into your WhatsApp contact list because
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the old people, they've been there for a while and whoever
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could have bought most likely has already bought.
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And since you're selling things that last decades or at least
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three years, The thing is they don't need to buy from you again
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anytime soon, especially since you are a very diligent person
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and you sell good quality products.
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You can also put out lead magnets was put.
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I spoke about lead magnets I think in yesterday's podcast
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episodes just yesterday. Yesterday, yesterday I spoke
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about lead magnets, the kind of lead magnets, the lead magnets,
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sorry, that you can be using because remember, a lead magnet
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is just a piece of content that you put out that people find
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valuable. Then you get it so that before
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people have access to it, they have to give you something.
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So, oh, you like this PDF, You want to continue reading?
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Give me your phone number. Then they enter your phone
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number, they enter their phone number, then give them the PDF
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or you give them the whatever. So Mr. Devine, you should be
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putting out lead magnets since what you do is lighting and
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fixtures and accessories. You can be putting out style
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guides. You know, top five fashion
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trends for lighting semi detached duplex houses in Abuja.
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So forgive me, I'm not an architect so I don't know what
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is what, I'm just making up rubbish.
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But show you just something like that, the five top lighting
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trends from Europe and how you can use them in Nigerian houses.
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You create it, design some nice stuff, you know, put it out
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there as a PDF. Click on the link below to
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download. Click and then a small bug pops
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up. You know, give me a WhatsApp
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number. People drop their WhatsApp
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number. You are getting new life into
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your contact list. On WhatsApp.
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You can create style guides. You can also create energy
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saving guides. I've seen those ones, but
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usually seems to be solar companies that are making those
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ones. Energy saving guides.
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You know, if you want your solar panel to last longer, use this
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kind of bulb instead of that kind of bulb Something,
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something, you know, all those sorts of things.
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You as well can also be creating energy saving guides.
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Mr. Devine, you can create lead magnets around smart home
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wiring. You know, do you want to live in
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a smart home? Do you want to know what smart
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lighting looks like? These are the top five smart
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lighting brands from China available in Nigeria today.
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Do you like to find out more? Do you want to know what this
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is? You know?
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Click on the link below to request it in my WhatsApp inbox.
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You understand, you see, you see the whatever as you're putting
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out lead magnets. If you get the content, meaning
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if people have to provide information before they move
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forward, let the information be. Give me a WhatsApp number.
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If you think people I'll be afraid of doing WhatsApp number,
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no problem, we can put e-mail address.
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But then in the e-mail that you sent to them now in your
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signature of that e-mail, you will put what you will put the
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link there Click to chat so that at the end of reading the
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e-mail, if they're interested, they can click and end up
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straight into your inbox and you are getting new lifeblood into
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your WhatsApp contact list. Then I've also spoken about in
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the past how businesses in Abuja, I don't know if the trend
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is picking up in Lagos, but I've been noticing it a lot.
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You know, pharmacy, neighborhood shops by my local neighborhood
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store in the estate that I live in, they, they do it a lot.
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You go there, you finish buying, you know, before you leave, you
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notice their QR code is printed there.
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The idea behind the QR code is, you know, you take your phone,
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you scan it, you end up straight into somebody's WhatsApp inbox.
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And so stores are putting it up in Abuja, pharmacies, household
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stores, like for the pharmacies for instance, you know, do you
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want to reorder your medicine, scan this QR code, you just
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bring out your phone, do the scanning thing there, next thing
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you're in the inbox. The reason why the pharmacist is
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doing that is next time you want to buy your new drug, you know
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your amlodipine or your you know amlodipine, your amlow, you know
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whatever it is you want to buy, the pharmacist want you to be
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able to send a chat message. You say or got a pharmacist.
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How far do you have dequadine or camosunate?
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Pharmacist now respond yes, we have camosunate, how many do you
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want or what are your symptoms, blah, blah, blah.
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You check back and forth, you say no problem, we have it
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available in store. You can just transfer now and
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then on your way tomorrow, just come and pick up the pharmacist.
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He's trying to use the WhatsApp QR codes to move his business.
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So in Abuja they're doing it. I don't know about in Lagos or
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Divine. I'm never sure where you're
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based, but check around your city.
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Just see whether people are doing it, boy, in Abuja, The
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thing is, people are doing it so you can use physical locations
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and you can get local engagement.
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Basically, put your QR code on your business cards.
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You hand out your business card to somebody, they can scan the
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QR code and when they scan, what happens, They end up in your
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WhatsApp inbox and you're getting your lifeblood into your
24:55
contact list. Put it on your business cards,
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put it on your Flyers, find ways to put it in physical locations.
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There's something that some people do in Abuja.
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I don't know if it's moving in Lagos.
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Some people have all started putting WhatsApp QR codes on KK.
25:11
So I don't know if they go and pay the care care riders, you
25:15
know, per head as in 111 and then put the QR code.
25:18
Or maybe what you do is you go to the park and then you
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negotiate with the head of the road transport person and then
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you now have permission to be putting the QR codes on
25:26
individual care cares. But I've been seeing it.
25:28
There's this is it females in business or women in business or
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something like that. There are current, the current
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Abuja program for this year 2025 for was this September, I think.
25:43
I think we're in November now, Abby.
25:45
Yeah, we're in November, the time of this recording.
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So either for October or September.
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Yeah, KK, that's how we're promoting our you know, I'm just
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driving mind my business and then I'm seeing it, the QR code
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everywhere. Businesses can do stuff like
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that too. You put your QR code on KK,
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somebody scans it, they end up in your inbox.
26:09
I've seen QR codes on taxis, you scan it, end up in your inbox.
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I've seen some business put the QR codes on the official car,
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somebody scans it, they end up in the inbox.
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Although the problem with the official car thing is in Lagos
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and in Abuja and in Benin, local government authorities that I
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don't a tear like they are seen red.
26:32
So for them anything is an Ave. to collect local government
26:36
revenue tax. So they will say QR code do say
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I'll come and pay advertising levy.
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You now say advertising levy for what?
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Did I put a billboard on my car? Did I put this on those say QR
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code is advertisement. You say no, it's not
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advertisement. While you're quarreling,
26:51
somebody will just boss your tie UPS or to remove your license
26:56
plate. You know, those are the tactics.
26:59
So that's just the problem. If you put the QR code on your
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personal car at every single traffic light, at every single
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junction, at every single roundabout, look at government
27:09
boys. They will harass your life.
27:12
So if you're up for the hassle or you're willing to go and pay,
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you know, the local government people, so that they give you
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the the pass, then yeah, you can put it on your car as well.
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So anybody who sees it, they scan the code.
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They end up where in your inbox. These are just some ideas, Bob.
27:34
Mr. Devine. So I don't understand too harsh,
27:38
Bob. I think you know you guys who
27:43
reach out to me and we talk. I hope I trust you guys know
27:46
that I'm coming at this out of out of love.
27:49
That's why I speak Frank and I speak freely.
27:53
But some of you, to be honest, you're asking me questions that
27:57
you don't need to ask because with AI tools, and I've been
28:01
saying that we can use AI to come up with ideas.
28:04
Quite frankly, there's some questions that you guys to be
28:07
honest, should, should, should not be asking me.
28:09
You could have used Google Gemini to research some of these
28:12
things on your own and started applying it already so that by
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the time you reach out to me, you will tell me that I have
28:19
been trying to improve my business by doing 123 and four
28:22
tactics, but it is not working. What can we do to optimize?
28:26
What can we do to improve all of these ideas that I have said
28:31
right now concerning Click to link, sorry, Click to chat.
28:38
You could have found any of these ideas if you just use
28:41
Google Gemini or if you use ChatGPT.
28:44
In fact, you didn't have to use anything.
28:46
Even if you just did a random search on Google, you could have
28:48
come across any of these ideas. So Mr. Devine, as per our chat
28:54
now, question 3 is really important.
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You should come up with an answer, not me.
28:59
How are you going to get new lifeblood into your contact
29:03
list? Because you've already squeezed
29:04
the blood out of this one. There's no blood left.
29:09
You know, some people shout blood of Jesus, blood of Jesus.
29:11
It's only Jesus Christ blood that is everlasting that you
29:13
continue to squeeze. You get more blood, more blood
29:15
for redemption, but you're not dealing with Jesus.
29:20
You squeezed out all the blood, no blood left.
29:23
So you need to answer the question, how are you going to
29:25
get more blood into this list? If you sell cars, people are not
29:29
buying cars, are not buying cars every year.
29:31
If you're dealing with people like me who don't want stress,
29:34
maybe they're buying cars every 2-3 years.
29:36
So you need now lifeblood into your list.
29:39
You need fresh blood coming into your list all the time.
29:42
Fresh blood, fresh blood, fresh blood.
29:46
If you're listening to me right now, you use WhatsApp for your
29:50
business. People don't buy your product
29:52
every day. I want you to say fresh, fresh
29:57
blood. That's what you need flowing
29:59
into your contact list. Fresh blood.
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Don't ask me how AI tools are there.
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Use your AI tools. Research.
30:11
You'll come up with lots of ideas.
30:12
If you come up with 20 ideas, even if five of them are
30:15
useless, no problem. The five that seem to make
30:17
sense, go ahead and try them out.
30:19
When you try them out and you run into problems.
30:23
Now reach out to me to say this is the sales ploy where I won,
30:29
where they run and the team know they click.
30:33
So what's the way forward? Then we can have an interesting
30:36
conversation. So that's it.
30:39
And that's all for today. Thank you very much for
30:41
listening to the podcast. Mr. Devine, I hope you find this
30:44
thing very, very useful. You seem like a sharp guy.
30:47
So I know they're going to do they're going to do very well.
30:52
Or one more thing, Mr. Devine, that your profile picture, you
30:54
know to tap because you know you're there, we can see your
30:58
face, but you know you're wearing sports singlets.
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And how I put it, you know, we're Nigerians now.
31:06
So you understand what I'm meeting at, you know, when
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you're a young man in business, we can't be taking picture on on
31:12
a business profile and a singlet you to wear is just somehow.
31:16
So I won't say wear suit and suit plus tie, but just change
31:20
that DP because you know why Niger and Niger people are a
31:26
packaging people. Believe me, I don't like
31:28
packaging, but try and package small, just small.
31:35
So change your profile picture, remove that singlet yes, the
31:38
sporty jersey. Yeah, of course, but change it
31:41
and do something else. So thank you very much for
31:45
listening. Remember, if you'd love to
31:47
connect, you can call send a text message or a WhatsApp
31:49
message to 08064662140 and you'll be in direct contact with
31:57
me. Please just make sure it's not a
32:00
question. If you have a question that you
32:03
couldn't have already found the answer if you had gone to Gemini
32:08
or if you had gone to Claude or if you had gone to ChatGPT, you
32:12
know, do that first. Because I'm also trying to get
32:21
you guys from listening to this podcast to have a sense of
32:26
ownership or how will I put it, like personal responsibility or
32:30
drive for the growth of your business, right?
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Let me just leave it there like that.
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So thanks for thanks for listening.
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I'll catch you guys some other time.