Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / What About If Your Partner Wants To Do Some Crazy Shit In Bed?
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- 0:05Hi everybody, and welcome to the dr.
- 0:07Psych mom show today, I'm going to be addressing a subscriber
- 0:12question actually is a Facebook group question.
- 0:16I think it really it all Blends together about, what if your
- 0:20partner wants to do, some really weird shit in bed that is really
- 0:24out there and what should you do.
- 0:28And so I'm going to address this very important question to a lot
- 0:33of people because I Honestly, like your partner, maybe the one
- 0:37who thinks that we are chit, is oral?
- 0:39So, I mean, this could really mean anything, it's quite
- 0:41subjective. So for the people that want to
- 0:45do the weird shit, whatever it is.
- 0:46This is a very pressing question for the people that want to get
- 0:49out of doing the weird shit. It's a similarly pressing
- 0:51question and I will address this in all of its glory and Detail
- 0:57in a bit right after I tell you to subscribe because there are
- 1:01numerous episodes that you are unaware of probably in Including
- 1:05six things that women want in bed, stuff about, and not being
- 1:09attractive, or to their wives, potentially things about needs
- 1:13boundaries communication, why you have to suck it up and be
- 1:17nice to your partner, all sorts of things that really could help
- 1:21you win an argument. When after you have an argument
- 1:23with your spouse, you say you email them.
- 1:26One of my podcast and you say, see this doctor thinks exactly
- 1:29what I just told you last night. No, don't actually do that.
- 1:32That will not help. Give you a happy marriage.
- 1:34You can listen and feel validated and, and really just
- 1:38swim in that validation bath of hearing my voice, say things
- 1:43that you have already tried to say to your spouse.
- 1:46Also, join my Facebook group. If you're somebody that likes to
- 1:48talk about sex and relationships which you have to be, otherwise
- 1:51you're a real masochist listening to this thing for
- 1:53close to 200 episodes. I'm going to be a 200 episodes
- 1:57soon, which is pretty cool because I only started in
- 1:59January. So anyway, now we are focusing
- 2:03on the topic at hand which is what Do you do if your partner
- 2:05really wants to do some weird shit in bed that you don't want
- 2:07to do that is to out there for you?
- 2:10Well, I mean, like first of all, like, let's just be real for a
- 2:14sec. Look, just get over yourself.
- 2:16Who cares? You know, like this is your
- 2:18partner. You love them.
- 2:19Unless they are doing something completely immoral.
- 2:23Like, you know, asking you to potentially maybe against your
- 2:27morals to go outside the marriage.
- 2:29Let's say they want to see you with another man.
- 2:32I could see that one being, you know, something you don't Really
- 2:35want to do you talk about, you know, in your marriage but like
- 2:38what if they want you to dress up in like a furry suit or they
- 2:41want to do some other position or like who gives a shit, right?
- 2:45I mean, like at a very basic level.
- 2:47Don't you want to be generous and loving person that is
- 2:51open-minded. I mean, the open-mindedness here
- 2:54is really key. And by the way, if you are
- 2:56somebody who has been asked to go outside your marriage and
- 2:59sleep with somebody else, there's still ways to talk about
- 3:02that as a fantasy without Really doing it.
- 3:05You know, I mean when we're talking about what people's hard
- 3:08stops are, they ought to be things.
- 3:11Like this is very painful or this goes against my moral code,
- 3:16people's hard. Stop should not be.
- 3:18That's kind of gross like okay. Like isn't aren't a lot of
- 3:22things kind of gross. I mean isn't changing a diaper
- 3:25kind of gross, isn't cleaning. Anything kind of gross isn't
- 3:29that aging human form kind of gross you know I think like
- 3:33everything's kind of Is if you look at it like through a
- 3:36negative lens or it could be fun, it could expand your
- 3:40horizons, they could push your boundaries, it's to an extent.
- 3:44A lot of times people just have to take a wider perspective.
- 3:49I mean, so if your partner wants to do some weird position or if
- 3:52they want you to dress up like a nurse that they're a doctor or
- 3:55whatever the hell, who cares? Why don't you be a sport?
- 3:59You know? And and, and try because as I've
- 4:04said, so So many times by now, Dan Savage says that the
- 4:07definition of a good sexual partners somebody who's good
- 4:09giving and gain and good you know you could research how to
- 4:14be better giving and game though, you you, that is an
- 4:18internal sort of thing. So while you know, I got a lot
- 4:23of sympathy for people who don't have any idea how to technically
- 4:27do something. Although in the age of the
- 4:28internet, you could certainly look up how to go down on a
- 4:31woman or you could listen to my podcast which is subscriber
- 4:34only. Or had to go down on a man could
- 4:36listen to my podcast, still my most popular episode on blow
- 4:40jobs or whatever the hell else you could learn this stuff but
- 4:44it's like, all right. It may be hard to learn a
- 4:46technical thing, but what about being giving and game?
- 4:49That's free that doesn't take any knowledge.
- 4:52It just takes a commitment to open-mindedness and to
- 4:56generosity which is exactly the same sort of thing that you want
- 4:59your partner to do for you. So my overall encouragement is
- 5:03to try If your partner, what to do some really weird shit.
- 5:07Why don't you try? Why is it going to kill you?
- 5:09It isn't and it'll probably make your partner very happy.
- 5:13The thing, there's research that shows that people who have
- 5:15fetishes actually enjoy sex more than other people.
- 5:18I the sex meaning, when the fetishes done that sort of
- 5:22fetish. So, try like, you could be
- 5:25giving your partner, the most transformative experience ever.
- 5:29Now, of course, you could go down any sort of logical Rabbit
- 5:31Hole. People love to argue.
- 5:33So you could say, all right, Fine.
- 5:35So what if my partner has this rule out their thing?
- 5:37Let's say they want to me to dress up like a furry rabbit and
- 5:42then I dress up as a furry rabbit in, it isn't enough and
- 5:45then I have to be a furry rabbit every day and I have to you
- 5:48know, get all into the furry rabbit Community, all right, you
- 5:52know, like you can make it look. Anything can be argued to the
- 5:56point of ridiculousness. No, a person should not have to
- 5:59make their entire life around a fetish that they don't like, but
- 6:02this is a far cry from Try it, you know, you could try it,
- 6:07they've men in my office, they recount certain glorious, sexual
- 6:11experiences and they don't need to do it all the time.
- 6:14But remembering one time that they had a threesome in college
- 6:17or one time that they hooked up randomly with a girl and
- 6:20bathroom at a party. This is enough to Coast on these
- 6:24are the hallowed and sacred sexual memories.
- 6:27So if you want to be generous and giving do the weird thing
- 6:32that your partner wants you to do, try it.
- 6:35And if they turn into like obsessional with it, that would
- 6:38mean they are not being good giving and game.
- 6:41Because remember, you don't like being a furry rabbit.
- 6:43And if everybody listening to this likes, being a furry
- 6:45rabbit, and vote. Some for me to change this.
- 6:48I will re-record this podcast but I thought that perhaps that
- 6:52would be one that would not appeal to the majority.
- 6:54So if in fact, your partner wants you to do some weird shit
- 6:59and you try it then they get obsessed with it and then you
- 7:01have to do it all the time. You don't have to do it all the
- 7:04time. Time you should do it sometimes
- 7:06to be a sport but you don't have to do it all the time because it
- 7:10doesn't turn you on. And, you know, it's, you know,
- 7:12they also ought to be being good giving and game and doing
- 7:15whatever it is turns you on. Now, what if you are the person
- 7:20who wants your partner to do this stuff and they won't do it.
- 7:23Well then as per usual, as I've said repeatedly, I cannot make
- 7:27anyone do anything. I am a psychologist, I'm not a
- 7:30magician but I tell you lookin at yourself, are you?
- 7:34Good giving a game outside of the bedroom if you want your
- 7:38partner to do, what they consider some wacky shit.
- 7:40Even if that's only leaving the lights on and you're completely
- 7:43resentful that. They think it's wacky because
- 7:45you think it's totally normal be that as it may life is
- 7:48subjective or you being the sort of person outside of bed.
- 7:52That's going to lead to your partner being open-minded in
- 7:55bed. Probably not, you know, because
- 7:59this I have rarely. So very rarely seen open-minded
- 8:03people partnered. With not open-minded people.
- 8:06So that's so important and could be such an epiphany.
- 8:09So I will say it again, the open-minded, they usually find
- 8:13each other. There's so many people who are
- 8:15like, I'm open-minded my spouse's close-minded.
- 8:18No light goes to like so usually if you know what that means,
- 8:22usually if they're open minded about like it'll be a guy, I'll
- 8:25be like I'm open-minded. I'll invest in all sorts of
- 8:29things crypto stocks, I'll invest in it.
- 8:34Art galleries. I'll just use my, I'm so open.
- 8:37Minded it like this one area of something that he likes to do,
- 8:40and then it's like, oh, what are your hobbies?
- 8:42Oh, those are my hobbies. I also like sports.
- 8:44My wife would really like me to read Fiction with her but I
- 8:47don't like fiction. Well would you would you look at
- 8:50that? You scratch the surface and you
- 8:52see close-minded? Maybe.
- 8:54If he was willing to read fiction and talk about it like
- 8:57book club, she would be willing to dress up as a furry rabbit,
- 9:00or whatever it is that floats his boat usually Close minded.
- 9:05People are paired with one another, although sometimes one
- 9:08of them is masquerading or both of them sometimes, you know,
- 9:12delusion could be both or one their masquerading as
- 9:16open-minded. So there's women who are like
- 9:18I'm so open minded politically, I'm open-minded philosophically.
- 9:22I'm open-minded. I listen to anybody's point of
- 9:25view. I'm an empath, right?
- 9:27You're an empath until your husband wants to get laid.
- 9:29Then where's the empath? The empath left the building.
- 9:32So if you consider, To be very open-minded but you have all
- 9:38these hard stops and quote, unquote boundaries.
- 9:41This is something that I just recorded about a podcast about
- 9:44that. You may have heard the cult of
- 9:46the preference / boundary, that's very very relevant here.
- 9:50Like you have a boundary against being a furry rabbit.
- 9:55So why why do you have this battery?
- 9:58Likely it is because you yourself can be closed-minded
- 10:01which should be interrogated. But also you're resentful
- 10:03because you Ask your partner to be open-minded about other
- 10:08things and he didn't. So then you're like fuck you and
- 10:12your furry rabbit fetish. I don't care because you won't
- 10:15for example, paint the kitchen pink because you think that
- 10:19would look quote stupid and I think it would look great and I
- 10:23saw it in a magazine and I really liked it.
- 10:24And if you were the kind of guy that was open-minded about
- 10:27painting the kitchen, pink or purple, or green, or whatever.
- 10:30Then maybe I would be a furry rabbit, but people don't make
- 10:32this sort of thing explicit. They don't make this Tit for Tat
- 10:35explicit because this would be a positive Tit for Tat.
- 10:38By the way, there's all sorts of negative variable score keeping,
- 10:42but if a woman would like, you know what?
- 10:43If you were more open-minded about home decor, I think that I
- 10:46could be a furry rabbit that, you know why they don't say that
- 10:50because they don't want to be a very rabbit.
- 10:52So they don't want the guy to call their Bluff and say, yeah,
- 10:55let's go to Sherwin-Williams and then we'll Circle back around to
- 10:58the furry rabbit costume store. They don't want that to happen.
- 11:01So they are for they don't actually make it explicit.
- 11:04Asset but in session and couples counseling, sometimes we make it
- 11:08explicit, all right? So then you really want to do
- 11:11this special thing. What is it worth to you?
- 11:14What are you giving are you giving something outside your
- 11:18comfort zone? And this isn't to do
- 11:20scorekeeping, it's like kind of to show that you are not being
- 11:24open-minded either. So what right?
- 11:27Do you have really is this like I said, and my podcasts are this
- 11:31the marriage that you deserve, do you deserve the marriage that
- 11:34you say? Do or do you deserve the
- 11:36marriage that you're in? Because the majority of people
- 11:38deserve exactly what they're getting at home, because they
- 11:42are difficult, and exactly interlocking ways with the other
- 11:45partners difficulty. So, there are many people who
- 11:49start extremely open-minded. And what they mean is I'm
- 11:53open-minded in this one thing that I like.
- 11:55So a guy saying that he's open-minded and bed, High
- 11:58libido, man, being open-minded and bed.
- 12:00I'll, let me clap for you. Why am I not clapping?
- 12:02Because it's so easy for you. You would screw anything anytime
- 12:06in any, which way you love it. It's great.
- 12:08It's all exciting. It's super fun to think about
- 12:11different positions different, this different that different
- 12:14whatever, and then your wife will say, hey, did you read this
- 12:17article that came out in the Atlantic?
- 12:20You're like, I'm not reading that shit, you know, it's like,
- 12:23come on, like, where do you get off?
- 12:26You don't probably get off alone because if you are difficult in
- 12:30this way, you're not getting off with her.
- 12:31So if you are the sort of person who Exhorts your partner to be
- 12:36super open-minded about whatever crazy shit, but then you are not
- 12:40deeply doing a deep dive, interrogation of yourself and
- 12:45your personal blind spots, and hard stops.
- 12:47Then do you deserve the furry rabbit know?
- 12:49You don't the furry rabbit will only come to those who are
- 12:53open-minded and that is your that should be in a fortune
- 12:57cookie. So if this resonates with you
- 13:00I'm going to stop saying share it with your partner because
- 13:03some of y'all are taking me to Seriously and you're like,
- 13:05sending all the podcasts, your partner wrong.
- 13:08Like when I meant, was if something, you know, is
- 13:11something that within the context of a relationship that
- 13:15we're people, have said, oh we want to communicate more on
- 13:19certain things and here's something interesting that we
- 13:22can discuss cool. But if you are the kind of
- 13:25person who, since the Advent of the internet, has been sending
- 13:29your spouse, all of these recommendations and stuff for
- 13:32them to read and look at and watch and In that.
- 13:35And now my podcast is the latest on the Heap, they don't want it.
- 13:39So I'm not going to say that anymore.
- 13:41You got to make an individual decision, whether to share this
- 13:43with your partner. They, so whether your partner
- 13:45has literally said to you, I don't want any more of that
- 13:49shit. Now, if they say that the stop
- 13:51sending stuff to them that is when but that is when if you
- 13:55really feel like you are going out of your mind because you
- 13:58can't communicate the person won't listen to the podcast,
- 14:01blah blah blah. Then book a couples counseling
- 14:03session because in A couples counseling session.
- 14:06A you have shown that you mean business?
- 14:08You really actually unhappy with something and you want to work
- 14:11on it and be the other person has a chance to talk and to be
- 14:14heard also it's not just unidirectionally that the one
- 14:19who has the skill at metabolizing information, more
- 14:23quickly sends the other one, Infinity links, and blogs, and
- 14:28articles, and whatever. This is not a very good balance,
- 14:32and it usually makes the person feel Attacked and overwhelmed,
- 14:36but but couples counseling while nobody's idea for a favorite
- 14:40activity, is something that is more even-handed.
- 14:43So if you really need to talk to your spouse so badly and they
- 14:48keep ignoring the podcasts and all this stuff book, a couples
- 14:51counseling session. Tell them about it.
- 14:53I really feel like we don't talk anymore.
- 14:55I've been doing the wrong thing bombarding you with various
- 14:58links but you know, it's remains that we don't talk.
- 15:01Apparently I'm not doing a good job at ad telling you we have to
- 15:04talk Talk so about whatever issues so therefore, I'd like to
- 15:08go to couples counseling, you know, couples counseling, as
- 15:10I've said, numerous times I'm very on Trend, no longer is
- 15:14this. Just for people who are about to
- 15:16break up with every passing year more and especially since covid
- 15:20and pandemic and teletherapy becoming ubiquitous more and
- 15:24more people who are not thankfully on the precipice of
- 15:26divorce are reaching out for help.
- 15:28So this is wonderful and hopefully it can change the
- 15:32reputation of couples counseling.
- 15:34From basically, the mortuary of your relationship to someplace
- 15:38where people really do learn how to enhance and enrich their
- 15:40relationships because they're coming in before it's the death
- 15:44knell of the relationship. So that was just your PSA about
- 15:48couples counseling. How important it is.
- 15:51And if you, if you are the wacky sex Seeker, then you got to do
- 15:57an internal real deep self scan about whether you are being as
- 16:02open-minded. As you wish that your partner
- 16:03was and If you're the one who's constantly being beg to dress up
- 16:06like a rabbit dress up, like a fucking rabbit.
- 16:08Who cares? Who cares?
- 16:10Let's just think about the ways that it could transform your
- 16:13relationship. If you just get out of your
- 16:16comfort zone for two seconds, you know?
- 16:18I mean it's what you are. Probably as a parent, I mean,
- 16:23man, like him being a parent, you got to do all this crazy
- 16:26shit. Gotta go to theme parks, you got
- 16:28to cook three meals a day. You gotta listen when they talk,
- 16:31whoo, it's easier to dress up like a rabbit or whatever.
- 16:34The case may be all right, I will talk to everybody soon.
- 16:37Hope you got something out of this podcast and if you did or
- 16:40if you didn't, please do subscribe.