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- 0:00Speaker 1: My name is Tatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations
- 0:03Speaker 1: woman and I'm here to acknowledge country t Glenn Young
- 0:07Speaker 1: Ganya Niana, kaka ya Ya bin Ahaka nian Ar gay
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- 0:17Speaker 1: Gadabomba in and now in wakah ghana on yakraum jar Watnadaa. Hello,
- 0:22Speaker 1: beautiful friends, we gather on the lands of the Aboriginal people.
- 0:26Speaker 1: We thank I acknowledge and respect the Aberiginal people's land
- 0:29Speaker 1: that we're gathering on today. Take pleasure in all the
- 0:31Speaker 1: land and respect all that you see. She's on the
- 0:35Speaker 1: Money podcast acknowledges culture, country, community and connections, bringing you
- 0:41Speaker 1: the tools, knowledge and resources for you to thrive.
- 0:45Speaker 2: She's on the Money. She's on the Money.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast
- 1:10Speaker 3: that makes personal finance fun.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Especially on Fridays. It is our favorite day of the
- 1:16Speaker 2: week because we.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Get our team together and it is our whole like
- 1:19Speaker 3: Little Friday's team, and we get to celebrate you the
- 1:21Speaker 3: incredible She's on the Money community. Miss Jess Gricci she's here.
- 1:25Speaker 3: She's sharing our favorite money wins. Miss Becksayed is back
- 1:30Speaker 3: from her gallivanting around Thailand, and we'll be sharing her
- 1:34Speaker 3: broke tips and we're going to be helping to answer
- 1:36Speaker 3: a money dilemma, which this week is asking what to
- 1:39Speaker 3: do when you can't get the insurance you want and
- 1:43Speaker 3: something that you lead into our dms about whether you
- 1:45Speaker 3: should leave your toxic workplace before you have another job
- 1:49Speaker 3: lined up. How have your week's been thus far?
- 1:52Speaker 4: Mine's been good, if you can tell. I am coming
- 1:55Speaker 4: off the back of being sick, so I am thrilled
- 1:57Speaker 4: to be up. But it is quite bad because my
- 2:00Speaker 4: boyfriend got sick. First, he got me sick, and I
- 2:02Speaker 4: was like, ah, the man flew. And then I got
- 2:04Speaker 4: a really nocked for six and he was like, oh
- 2:07Speaker 4: the man flew. So yeah, man flu, you get man flu,
- 2:10Speaker 4: don't eat. Karma came for me, as did the man flu.
- 2:12Speaker 4: But I'm feeling back and better than ever. I'm just
- 2:15Speaker 4: a little bit a little croky still, So sorry annoying, No,
- 2:19Speaker 4: you sound great.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Annoying.
- 2:20Speaker 3: In fact, I don't think anyone will be able to
- 2:22Speaker 3: tell you just pointed it out because you're probably self
- 2:24Speaker 3: conscious absolutely. Yeah, you sound absolutely fine.
- 2:27Speaker 2: And missfecs that nice. Yes, she's that. I'm back.
- 2:32Speaker 5: I had a gorgeous time. We were seeing Bangkok and
- 2:35Speaker 5: I hadn't been there before, so it was just so fun.
- 2:39Speaker 5: And I went like I went to Japan last year
- 2:41Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, nothing, we top that. But
- 2:43Speaker 5: then Bangkok honestly really came close. It's really really fun,
- 2:46Speaker 5: great food. There wasn't even a nano second where I
- 2:49Speaker 5: was hungry. I just did not stop eating. I didn't
- 2:51Speaker 5: let myself be hungry, you know. So I feel like
- 2:54Speaker 5: you might notice I'm a little bit chunkier.
- 2:56Speaker 2: I did not notice.
- 2:57Speaker 3: And I don't think that that's an accurate depiction of
- 2:59Speaker 3: how you've come home. I'm glowing and happy and ready
- 3:02Speaker 3: to take on the world.
- 3:03Speaker 2: They're so nice. Thank if you do.
- 3:05Speaker 6: And on that.
- 3:06Speaker 2: How is Yuie?
- 3:06Speaker 3: Oh honestly been live, love loving my way through October life.
- 3:10Speaker 3: I just I'm getting a bit tired.
- 3:14Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie.
- 3:15Speaker 3: I just feel like we have had a lot on
- 3:17Speaker 3: We've been doing a lot, working a lot. It feels
- 3:19Speaker 3: like Christmas is creeping up. I mean we've just been
- 3:22Speaker 3: recording some Christmas episodes and that feels honestly exciting because
- 3:27Speaker 3: like Jess loves Christmas.
- 3:28Speaker 2: We're all festive girl is.
- 3:29Speaker 3: But you know when you're like, oh, this is just
- 3:31Speaker 3: all happening too quick. What do you mean didn't twenty
- 3:33Speaker 3: twenty five just start? So I'm feeling a little bit
- 3:35Speaker 3: like and this is so silly. I feel like we
- 3:37Speaker 3: all go through this, this feeling of have I done
- 3:40Speaker 3: everything that I said I wanted to do this year?
- 3:42Speaker 3: And then I'm like no, oh my god, like what
- 3:44Speaker 3: have I got to finish? Which is so silly, so silly,
- 3:47Speaker 3: it's silly. It just feels like the years catching up. Yeah,
- 3:50Speaker 3: I totally get it, all right, would you hypothetically like,
- 3:54Speaker 3: get this, it's going to shock you.
- 3:56Speaker 2: A five star review?
- 3:57Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't see that happen, But Renee Louise ninety
- 4:02Speaker 3: four did. She sent us a five star review via
- 4:05Speaker 3: Apple and it was entitled Empowered, and I was like, well,
- 4:09Speaker 3: this is the one for this week. Hi, she's on
- 4:12Speaker 3: the money. I've been listening to your podcast every day
- 4:15Speaker 3: now for the past month or two, and it's so
- 4:16Speaker 3: good to learn about money that is easy to understand.
- 4:20Speaker 3: We have done something similar a few years ago through
- 4:22Speaker 3: someone else and we were able to pay for our wedding,
- 4:25Speaker 3: pay off our credit card loans and other debts, have
- 4:27Speaker 3: savings and it was really good until I had medical
- 4:30Speaker 3: issues and had our daughter two and a half years ago.
- 4:33Speaker 3: As life goes on, we fell into a little bit
- 4:35Speaker 3: of debt again and we've gone back to some bad habits.
- 4:39Speaker 3: But after friends telling us about you guys and how
- 4:43Speaker 3: simple and easy you make it, I've just joined shares
- 4:46Speaker 3: this signed up to your money course and I've been
- 4:48Speaker 3: mapping out the next twelve to twenty four months, which
- 4:51Speaker 3: is so exciting. I feel motivated and happy to be
- 4:53Speaker 3: back on track.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Thank you. I really needed this. That's amazing, so cute,
- 5:00Speaker 2: that's lovely.
- 5:02Speaker 4: It just shows life is in seasons, and you know,
- 5:04Speaker 4: sometimes you're going great, sometimes you're going on as well
- 5:06Speaker 4: as you want, and it's okay totally.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Do you know what else? I thought?
- 5:09Speaker 3: And this is like maybe just me being a little
- 5:11Speaker 3: bit special, a little bit adhd, a little bit side questy.
- 5:15Speaker 3: Her name was renee Louise ninety four, and I was like,
- 5:18Speaker 3: that's such a ninety four middle name, Like my sister's
- 5:20Speaker 3: middle name is Louise. Every second person I know that
- 5:23Speaker 3: was born in nineteen ninety four, has a middle name Louise.
- 5:26Speaker 4: Just happens, true, just happens. One of my this is
- 5:29Speaker 4: so random. One of my most favorite teachers in primary school.
- 5:32Speaker 4: Her name was renee Louise oh renee Louise Cunningham. I
- 5:35Speaker 4: think it was her surname, but I think she got
- 5:37Speaker 4: married in a changed I can't remember.
- 5:38Speaker 2: But she was your favorite.
- 5:40Speaker 4: She was literally isn't it so funny how your favorite
- 5:42Speaker 4: teacher is like stick? Like I bet if I said
- 5:44Speaker 4: to who's your favorite teacher?
- 5:45Speaker 2: You guys, I got I remember. Oh yeah, it's mister
- 5:47Speaker 2: Simmons from grave Ve. You go, I have a least
- 5:49Speaker 2: favorite teacher.
- 5:50Speaker 3: His name's Matt Simmons. By the way, I think everybody
- 5:52Speaker 3: loved Dimbo. You know those teachers that like just were
- 5:54Speaker 3: everybody's favorite teacher.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon life by who missus derwent.
- 6:01Speaker 5: She was really mean to me and my brother, and
- 6:03Speaker 5: I don't want to play the card, but I think
- 6:06Speaker 5: it's because we're both Indian looking, but we're not Indian.
- 6:08Speaker 2: We're Bangladeshi. Actually it was about to say, you're not
- 6:10Speaker 2: even Indian, I know.
- 6:12Speaker 5: But she's still I think she thought that and she
- 6:13Speaker 5: didn't like us, so she was maybe a little bit racist.
- 6:15Speaker 5: She's on my hate list, not in being Indian, you know,
- 6:18Speaker 5: we were all India at one point, but she just
- 6:21Speaker 5: had like a real distaste for this.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Like I don't like her either.
- 6:24Speaker 3: I feel like there are like two types of people
- 6:26Speaker 3: in this world, and I'm type B. I think Jess
- 6:28Speaker 3: is also type B. Don't know, I think that you.
- 6:31Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 6:32Speaker 3: There are those people that would have been like, oh, well,
- 6:35Speaker 3: she was actually a really nice teacher. She didn't do
- 6:37Speaker 3: anything to me. She was so nice, And then there
- 6:40Speaker 3: are type B people where I'm like, we riode at Dawn.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Yeah, she was nice to me. She did what to you?
- 6:46Speaker 2: That's so nice?
- 6:47Speaker 7: Oh my god.
- 6:48Speaker 2: So she's on my cancel list as well. Thank you,
- 6:51Speaker 2: thank you you waiting thirty years I've been waiting to
- 6:58Speaker 2: put her on your list.
- 7:01Speaker 3: Let's jump back into the show. No more side quests
- 7:03Speaker 3: and it's just greachie. Can you share your favorite money
- 7:06Speaker 3: with absolutely?
- 7:07Speaker 2: I can.
- 7:08Speaker 1: So.
- 7:08Speaker 4: Firstly, this week I've got a money win from Ann
- 7:11Speaker 4: who said I returned to shampoo to Mecca that was
- 7:13Speaker 4: causing me to have an itchy scalp, and.
- 7:15Speaker 2: I got a refund.
- 7:16Speaker 4: Oh good, Just to remind everyone, Mecha, lets you do that, like,
- 7:18Speaker 4: you can test it if it's not for you. I
- 7:21Speaker 4: believe there are some t's and z's check the tz's,
- 7:23Speaker 4: but you can take things back, which I think is great.
- 7:24Speaker 2: But also it's so expensive these days.
- 7:27Speaker 3: And if you were like I'm going to buy a
- 7:28Speaker 3: shampoo at Mecca, like you're putting some pretty cold hard
- 7:31Speaker 3: cash up front. Absolutely, so good on you for standing
- 7:35Speaker 3: your values, because I'm not gonna lie. I would feel
- 7:38Speaker 3: awkward and put it in the back of my cupboard
- 7:40Speaker 3: and forget.
- 7:40Speaker 2: I owned it. Absolutely.
- 7:42Speaker 4: Next I've got a money in it from Amy, who
- 7:43Speaker 4: said she needed to buy all new plants on the
- 7:45Speaker 4: weekend as she was re landscaping her front yard. It
- 7:48Speaker 4: was going to be around four hundred dollars of plants
- 7:50Speaker 4: from Bunnings or the local nursery.
- 7:52Speaker 2: But then she found a.
- 7:53Speaker 4: Guy a marketplace get a little plant business from his garden,
- 7:56Speaker 4: and she bought most of the plants she needed for
- 7:57Speaker 4: two hundred and twenty dollars.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Also, that's really cute supporting to all business. It's how fun.
- 8:03Speaker 4: Next week, money went from Caitlind, who said money Win
- 8:05Speaker 4: had a successful no spend week. All I bought was
- 8:07Speaker 4: groceries and breakfast out with a friend. Well done, well done.
- 8:11Speaker 4: It's hard, you know what.
- 8:12Speaker 2: It's small, but it's hard.
- 8:14Speaker 4: And then I've got a money win this week from Tracy,
- 8:16Speaker 4: who took a leave out of bextbook and said she
- 8:18Speaker 4: changed her Netflix from a standard plan to the cheapest.
- 8:21Speaker 2: Yes, you're a reminder. Ads are not that bad.
- 8:23Speaker 3: I like what we're willing to compromise on, because if
- 8:25Speaker 3: I'd asked you that two years ago, you'd be like,
- 8:27Speaker 3: absolutely not.
- 8:28Speaker 2: You know, you're like, as on that bad. They're pretty nice,
- 8:30Speaker 2: you know what.
- 8:31Speaker 4: I'm hard up enough that I've taken out here at
- 8:33Speaker 4: the absolutely and honestly they don't come up often.
- 8:36Speaker 2: Yeah, times are changing that absolutely feto. We'll be watching
- 8:40Speaker 2: free to air TV so with a bad time.
- 8:43Speaker 4: Next, I've got a money win from Grace, who said
- 8:45Speaker 4: her new office building runs free fitness classes. She signed
- 8:49Speaker 4: up for her first pilates class on Tuesday morning.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Also, sorry, free pilates.
- 8:54Speaker 3: I thought you were thinking like it would just be
- 8:56Speaker 3: like the Les Mills old school fitness lass, so maybe
- 8:59Speaker 3: you weren't that interested in that's school.
- 9:01Speaker 4: That's a good office perk. I would say, whoever's office
- 9:04Speaker 4: is doing that, absolutely.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Signed me up.
- 9:06Speaker 4: And then lastly, this week, I've got a money win
- 9:08Speaker 4: from Rebecca who said counsel withdrew two parking fines because
- 9:12Speaker 4: she received them while their baby was in the nicqueue.
- 9:15Speaker 4: Oh god, it is not nice.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Good people.
- 9:18Speaker 4: Iby is okay, me too, and the saves are around
- 9:20Speaker 4: three hundred dollars. So money win for the pocket, hopefully
- 9:23Speaker 4: a life win for you guys because a bit of
- 9:25Speaker 4: stress gone and hopefully Bubba's doing okay.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Yes, well that's a good place to leave it.
- 9:29Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, I love it, Miss Beck say ed, yes,
- 9:32Speaker 3: have you come back raging with some good broke tips
- 9:34Speaker 3: because I have had to carry this.
- 9:37Speaker 2: I don't want you to listen to the episodes, though,
- 9:40Speaker 2: so I should. I did my best, and sometimes you
- 9:43Speaker 2: know what your best is just not good enough. And
- 9:45Speaker 2: that's okay. But I think Beck would tell me it
- 9:47Speaker 2: was a good job, even if it was terrible job.
- 9:49Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 9:49Speaker 5: I haven't listened, but I'm sure you did do a
- 9:50Speaker 5: good job. But I will be listening and I will
- 9:52Speaker 5: be critiquing.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Can we toxically supportive?
- 9:55Speaker 3: That's so nice of coll like Beck could come into
- 9:57Speaker 3: this office and be like, man, I just hit someone
- 9:59Speaker 3: with my and I'd be like, babe, why were they
- 10:01Speaker 3: in front of your car?
- 10:02Speaker 2: Exactly? But I was on the path, the footpath. Yeah,
- 10:05Speaker 2: well why were they? Why were they there? Begs like
- 10:07Speaker 2: oh I failed to test, and I'd be like, oh
- 10:09Speaker 2: my god, why did they make it so hard?
- 10:11Speaker 4: Rude?
- 10:12Speaker 2: I really appreciate that, Okay, Jess.
- 10:15Speaker 5: I was a bit cheeky this week and I was
- 10:18Speaker 5: scrolling through the money wins color, but some of them
- 10:21Speaker 5: were really good, and so I just wanted to share that.
- 10:24Speaker 5: This first one comes from La, who says she was
- 10:26Speaker 5: unwell earlier this year. I do apologies. I hope you're okay.
- 10:30Speaker 5: She had to travel to and from Melbourne for treatment
- 10:32Speaker 5: quite a number of times. But there is a Victorian
- 10:35Speaker 5: Patient Travel Assistance Scheme VPTAS, so just rolls off the
- 10:39Speaker 5: tongue which provides some financial assistance for patients who have
- 10:42Speaker 5: to travel more than one hundred committers to access treatment.
- 10:45Speaker 2: I did not know about this, that's right that and
- 10:47Speaker 2: I'm glad that the community does now. Absolutely so.
- 10:50Speaker 5: I guess it's really also great for regional people because
- 10:52Speaker 5: I'm sure we have to come to and from Melbourne
- 10:54Speaker 5: every now and then.
- 10:55Speaker 2: And so the processing times are not super quick.
- 10:58Speaker 5: But she finally received the money and put us into savings,
- 11:00Speaker 5: which I think is great. It's kind of nice when
- 11:02Speaker 5: you can afford at the moment you know it's coming back,
- 11:04Speaker 5: and then it kind of just comes back when you
- 11:06Speaker 5: don't expect it.
- 11:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, oh my god, a bit of free money.
- 11:09Speaker 5: So it's the Victorian Patient Travel Assistance Scheme.
- 11:12Speaker 2: I love p t as Ye, you're right it does.
- 11:19Speaker 5: And this next, but also I do hope you're feeling
- 11:21Speaker 5: a lot better now, Ella. And so then I dipped
- 11:24Speaker 5: into my own thread, I say, little thread. This one
- 11:29Speaker 5: comes from Katie, who says I don't have a Seati
- 11:31Speaker 5: mobile or home internet plan. Instead I buy start simpacks
- 11:34Speaker 5: at woolorves or calls when they go on sale, usually
- 11:37Speaker 5: about nine to thirteen dollars for twenty eight days with
- 11:40Speaker 5: unlimited international calling. As I've got family overseas, as long
- 11:43Speaker 5: as I trade between providers every month, I can keep
- 11:46Speaker 5: the same number. It's a tiny bit cumbersome, but very cheap.
- 11:50Speaker 2: That is cheap.
- 11:51Speaker 5: That's nine dollars, say, for example, for a month. That's
- 11:54Speaker 5: your home and mobile because you just hotspot everything.
- 11:57Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you're willing to do the admin, that's
- 11:59Speaker 3: actually a really good money we need crazy Sorry, that's
- 12:03Speaker 3: so good. Oh do you know what I'm willing to do?
- 12:06Speaker 3: The admins sometimes to say unlimited you could run an empire.
- 12:11Speaker 5: Seriously, that's actually fantastic. My phone is ninety nine and
- 12:15Speaker 5: in today is seventy. So if you get rid of those,
- 12:19Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's genie.
- 12:20Speaker 2: Ninety nine dollars a month for your phone?
- 12:21Speaker 3: Is it like your phone and your phone bill like
- 12:24Speaker 3: the handset? Okay, all right, that's all reasonable. What do
- 12:28Speaker 3: you pay for your phone every month?
- 12:29Speaker 2: Jess? Thirty five dollars? Yes, same Aldi, No, no, Optis.
- 12:33Speaker 2: I'm with a voter phone. We do an annual team everyone.
- 12:37Speaker 4: If we did it once and then every yes, one goes,
- 12:39Speaker 4: hey guy, it's been about a check again.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Call your provider.
- 12:42Speaker 6: Get on the chat.
- 12:43Speaker 2: One day we were all literally, yeah, we were all
- 12:46Speaker 2: in the office. We weren't doing work. We were all
- 12:48Speaker 2: talking to like Optius chat, like Telstra chat. One of us.
- 12:52Speaker 2: I was on the voteraphone chat at that time, and
- 12:54Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, no, sorry, my friend is
- 12:56Speaker 2: actually talking to OPTAs she just got thirty five dollars.
- 12:59Speaker 2: I want thirty five.
- 13:01Speaker 3: They're desperate to keep you, yea, as they should be,
- 13:04Speaker 3: as they should be, because I'll leave.
- 13:06Speaker 2: It's not that deep for me.
- 13:07Speaker 3: Loyalty runs very shallow in my Yeah. Yeah, nine dollars
- 13:12Speaker 3: is great, that's incredible. My broke tip's quite topical right.
- 13:19Speaker 5: Now for me personally, because I just came from an island.
- 13:21Speaker 5: So this is for people traveling to Southeast Asia. There
- 13:24Speaker 5: is currently a clinical trial happening called Understanding the Causes
- 13:27Speaker 5: of Diary in Australia in Australian adult tourists traveling to
- 13:31Speaker 5: Southeast Asia, which I think we all have been very
- 13:36Speaker 5: curious about.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Do you know what?
- 13:38Speaker 3: A while ago I went to Bali and I posted
- 13:41Speaker 3: on my Instagram that I have never gotten Ballei belly
- 13:44Speaker 3: and still have never gotten Balley belly because I believe
- 13:48Speaker 3: you have to have one full fat coke every single
- 13:52Speaker 3: day because in my head, this is a complete side quest. Again,
- 13:57Speaker 3: I do apologize, Beck, I'm feeling very extra DHD spicy today, okay,
- 14:01Speaker 3: because in my head, if you put coins into a
- 14:04Speaker 3: cup with some coke, it like fully strips them gets
- 14:08Speaker 3: rid of all of the rust.
- 14:11Speaker 2: I think it does that to my insides, but with
- 14:12Speaker 2: the bugs. Not a word of a lie.
- 14:15Speaker 4: I went to a doctor once and they said, have
- 14:17Speaker 4: you tried having like I am not made I know
- 14:20Speaker 4: that sounds made up.
- 14:21Speaker 2: It's not made up any I think it was something.
- 14:24Speaker 3: So my sister gets migraines and her doctor tells her
- 14:26Speaker 3: every single time one can of full fat coke as
- 14:30Speaker 3: like a pre empty of Like, you know, it doesn't
- 14:33Speaker 3: save her, but it does make things a lot easier.
- 14:35Speaker 2: Really, why not coke zero?
- 14:37Speaker 3: I think you need the mix of the carbonation, the
- 14:40Speaker 3: caffeination and the sugar. Okay, I think it's like, I
- 14:43Speaker 3: don't know. I'm not a doctor.
- 14:44Speaker 2: I am a hypothesist. I feel like we'rening fake news.
- 14:50Speaker 4: To me.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Fake news. But you know what did I get? BALI belly?
- 14:54Speaker 2: Tell me more about your diarrhea story?
- 14:56Speaker 4: True?
- 14:56Speaker 5: That's so true, and also a placebo even if it does,
- 14:59Speaker 5: this does call plus Potentially it is just as effective.
- 15:03Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to start selling jelly beans that
- 15:05Speaker 2: help you save money. You never know, No, the brain
- 15:09Speaker 2: is powerful.
- 15:09Speaker 3: Yeah, if you eat a jelly bean a day, you
- 15:11Speaker 3: can actually save like a thousand dollars a month's crazy.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Yeah, buy my jelly beans? Yeah yeah yeah, tell us
- 15:16Speaker 2: a study.
- 15:17Speaker 5: Sorry, tell me about So this is quite topical because
- 15:21Speaker 5: I just came back from Thaighland. So this is for
- 15:23Speaker 5: people traveling Southeast Asia. There is currently a clinical trial
- 15:26Speaker 5: happening called Understanding the Causes of Diary and Australian adult
- 15:30Speaker 5: tourists traveling Southeast Asia. You can sign up and you
- 15:33Speaker 5: get one hundred fifty dollars. Whether you get diary or not.
- 15:36Speaker 5: You do have to give a still sample though, which
- 15:38Speaker 5: is uncomfortable. But whether or not you get diarrhea, you
- 15:43Speaker 5: will be receiving one hundred fifty dollars if you sign
- 15:45Speaker 5: up and get chosen, is the main thing.
- 15:48Speaker 2: That's a perfectly good way to make money. Oh no,
- 15:53Speaker 2: and she's been sitting time, just like the toilet. If
- 15:58Speaker 2: you've got you can soon. I've got a few more
- 16:03Speaker 2: than a I'm scared, all right. Well that's the bottom
- 16:08Speaker 2: end of this side.
- 16:09Speaker 7: So we're gonna go to a really quick break and
- 16:13Speaker 7: on the flip side, we're gonna be answering a more
- 16:15Speaker 7: vanilla money dilemma, which asks what do you do when
- 16:18Speaker 7: you can't get insurance that you want to have.
- 16:21Speaker 2: And something that you slid into.
- 16:23Speaker 3: Our dms about whether you should leave your toxic workplace
- 16:27Speaker 3: before you've solidified another job and lined that up, so
- 16:30Speaker 3: guys don't go anywhere.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Let's take a listen to this week's
- 16:38Speaker 2: money dilemma.
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- 17:04Speaker 8: Hi, She's on the Money. I absolutely love the pot
- 17:06Speaker 8: on everything with the community, especially for women. My question
- 17:10Speaker 8: is about life insurance TPDIP, death cover, etc. Unfortunately, due
- 17:14Speaker 8: to a myriad of health conditions, I'm ineligible for life insurance,
- 17:18Speaker 8: including through my super Even though I don't expect insurance
- 17:21Speaker 8: to cover my pre existing conditions, I understand it's part
- 17:24Speaker 8: of the underwriter's job. However, do you have any tips
- 17:26Speaker 8: to what I can do to prepare myself otherwise. Obviously
- 17:29Speaker 8: having an emergency fund is super important, but it's never
- 17:31Speaker 8: going to give me the same protection as life insurance
- 17:33Speaker 8: in terms of the actual amount of money. Is this
- 17:35Speaker 8: just bad luck? Or is there another way I can
- 17:37Speaker 8: future proof myself?
- 17:38Speaker 2: Thank you? All right? Just first, cab off the rank.
- 17:40Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't know if this person has seen
- 17:43Speaker 3: a financial advisor or not, but that would be my
- 17:45Speaker 3: first port of call. You guys know that I will
- 17:49Speaker 3: harp on day and night about sky Wealth. They are
- 17:51Speaker 3: literally my financial advisors when it comes to insurance. Jess,
- 17:55Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure you're with them. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
- 17:57Speaker 3: Like a producer, like everybody in our team has gone
- 17:59Speaker 3: through sky Wealth to do their insurance is just because
- 18:02Speaker 3: they do good. They know literally everything about it, and
- 18:06Speaker 3: we feel really confident. So I would go and talk
- 18:08Speaker 3: to their team, because if you've been declined just by
- 18:11Speaker 3: one insurer, you can talk about you know what other
- 18:15Speaker 3: insurers could I potentially go with? You know, she might
- 18:19Speaker 3: have actually gone and talked to Phil literally one on one,
- 18:21Speaker 3: and he said, look, we can't insure you. I just
- 18:23Speaker 3: don't know the semantics of this situation, but often you
- 18:26Speaker 3: could potentially talk to a different insurer that will either
- 18:29Speaker 3: exclude your pre existing conditions or get you to pay
- 18:33Speaker 3: a loading on your insurance so you pay more insurance
- 18:37Speaker 3: to still solidify it. And I would be having those conversations,
- 18:40Speaker 3: so it's not completely ruled out if you aren't able
- 18:43Speaker 3: to solidify insurance at all. And there are some people
- 18:47Speaker 3: that can't get insurance. So whether it is pre existing
- 18:50Speaker 3: conditions or you have certain occupations. Did you know that
- 18:53Speaker 3: some pilots can't get life insurance, Oh, because of the
- 18:56Speaker 3: risk of there's too much risk. Flight controllers also have
- 19:00Speaker 3: a lot of issue with it, even though they're that's
- 19:03Speaker 3: what I used to say crazy, but I ended up
- 19:05Speaker 3: with a lot of clients who are traffic flight controllers
- 19:09Speaker 3: right anyway, So there are a lot of people who
- 19:11Speaker 3: might not be able to get it. And at that
- 19:12Speaker 3: point you are trying to obviously future proof your finances
- 19:18Speaker 3: in a way that you still again she mentioned it
- 19:21Speaker 3: like having an emergency fund. That would be the number
- 19:23Speaker 3: one thing that I focus on. What other insurances could
- 19:27Speaker 3: you get that support you? So, yes, you haven't been
- 19:29Speaker 3: able to get the life insurance, but what about total
- 19:32Speaker 3: and permanent disability? Or TPD. What about income protection? What
- 19:36Speaker 3: about trauma insurance? Do you have any of those accessible?
- 19:39Speaker 3: Like what's that going to look like? Also making sure
- 19:42Speaker 3: that if you're in a couple, your partner is inshure
- 19:45Speaker 3: WOD well, just because you can't get it doesn't mean
- 19:47Speaker 3: they shouldn't be going in and exploring it. Like there's
- 19:50Speaker 3: just there's a few things that you can do. And
- 19:53Speaker 3: I'm really sorry that that's the case, but that is
- 19:55Speaker 3: honestly the reality for some people where you just can't
- 19:59Speaker 3: solidify it. And I'm not saying that's okay. I think
- 20:01Speaker 3: it really sucks. It actually often is the people that
- 20:04Speaker 3: need it so so so much. Yeah, but get advice
- 20:08Speaker 3: and get good advice. But if you are speaking to
- 20:11Speaker 3: a financial advisor and they have said I'm so sorry,
- 20:14Speaker 3: miss jessic Ricci can't ensure you, they will give you
- 20:17Speaker 3: a plan of what else you should be doing to
- 20:20Speaker 3: protect yourself. So it's not That's why I'm kind of like,
- 20:24Speaker 3: so did you get advice, because any good financial advisor
- 20:27Speaker 3: would be like, I'm so sorry, I can't insure you
- 20:29Speaker 3: for this, but this is our fallback plan.
- 20:31Speaker 2: This is what you should be doing.
- 20:32Speaker 3: I would love to see you save x amount per month,
- 20:35Speaker 3: or your emergency fund needs to be this percentage more
- 20:38Speaker 3: than normal people's or whatever. So that's why I was
- 20:40Speaker 3: kind of effy about whether they've gotten advice, because any
- 20:43Speaker 3: good advisor would never leave their client hind dry.
- 20:45Speaker 2: They wouldn't be like, sorry, can't get it.
- 20:47Speaker 5: Have a good day by Like yeah, I would say,
- 20:51Speaker 5: like if it is the case that you can't get
- 20:54Speaker 5: any at all, then I mean, I think Victoria would say,
- 20:57Speaker 5: don't put your money where you can't act says it immediately,
- 21:00Speaker 5: like investments would say.
- 21:02Speaker 1: That, yeah.
- 21:02Speaker 3: I would say that, yeah, your emergency fund should never
- 21:04Speaker 3: never be invested.
- 21:05Speaker 2: Put it in savings.
- 21:06Speaker 5: And then also I would say, like you know, as
- 21:08Speaker 5: if you can savings and then also maybe like super
- 21:12Speaker 5: and maybe a little bit investments if you can afford
- 21:14Speaker 5: to have like multiple sources of financially securing. Yeah, And
- 21:20Speaker 5: then I would also just like be really up to
- 21:23Speaker 5: date with like sendlink and ndis and all these kind
- 21:26Speaker 5: of things, like just in case, because it's.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Really sucks when you touchwood.
- 21:31Speaker 5: If you were to get to a place where you're like, oh,
- 21:33Speaker 5: I don't have any InCom and I can't get any
- 21:35Speaker 5: income and I also don't have insurance, and then you're like, okay, well,
- 21:37Speaker 5: let's see what sendlink has.
- 21:39Speaker 2: It's so overwhelming at that point because.
- 21:41Speaker 5: It's like, I mean, I don't know about everyone else,
- 21:42Speaker 5: but I find it so hard to like read and
- 21:45Speaker 5: take in what's on the Gay Too website.
- 21:47Speaker 2: I'm really grateful that it's there. I'm really grateful we
- 21:49Speaker 2: have these. I love reading that website. Perfect. That's perfect.
- 21:53Speaker 5: But I would say look up beforehand as well, because
- 21:55Speaker 5: even if you were like, Okay, well, if worse came
- 21:58Speaker 5: to worst, Touchwood, I could get five hundre dollars a
- 22:00Speaker 5: week or five dollars a fort nite, whatever, then at
- 22:02Speaker 5: least you can start preparing your budget for that amount
- 22:06Speaker 5: if anything were to happen. You can start preparing for
- 22:09Speaker 5: what you can get in the future if you were
- 22:12Speaker 5: to ever need it. And then you can also figure
- 22:14Speaker 5: out where the hell the forms are, what the hell
- 22:16Speaker 5: you do with the forms?
- 22:17Speaker 2: What do I need? I need by a scan of
- 22:19Speaker 2: my idea or something I don't know, So it's really
- 22:21Speaker 2: good to just have that at the back of your mind.
- 22:23Speaker 2: I think you can need Also.
- 22:25Speaker 3: While I'm thinking about it, the additional thing I would say,
- 22:28Speaker 3: is this is a really good flip in reminder to
- 22:31Speaker 3: get your insurances in place before you even think you
- 22:33Speaker 3: need them. Yes, because yes, you might have a pre
- 22:36Speaker 3: existing condition now. But there's and I don't know what
- 22:39Speaker 3: it is, it's none of my business, but there is
- 22:41Speaker 3: a very big likelihood if you are young and fit
- 22:44Speaker 3: and healthy, you think you don't need insurances, and that's
- 22:47Speaker 3: the point at which you need insurance the most, and
- 22:50Speaker 3: it is the most valuable to pick up because you
- 22:51Speaker 3: won't have any pre existing conditions.
- 22:54Speaker 2: We see it often in our community.
- 22:55Speaker 3: You know, you'll go and see an advisor and they'll
- 22:58Speaker 3: be like, so sorry, you had this health issue, or
- 23:01Speaker 3: you might have had a melanoma cutout, or you might
- 23:03Speaker 3: have had just literally anything happen. You used to play
- 23:06Speaker 3: netpul and you've got a bung knee and they just
- 23:08Speaker 3: won't cover these things. And you go, well, that's really
- 23:11Speaker 3: annoying because what if I do my other ACL I
- 23:14Speaker 3: won't be covered for that.
- 23:14Speaker 2: And you'll be like, well, no, you won't be.
- 23:17Speaker 3: So the younger you are, the more important it is
- 23:20Speaker 3: to solidify insurance while you can get it, because even
- 23:24Speaker 3: though abung knee or whatever you might go, they wouldn't
- 23:26Speaker 3: not ensure me. But you add that to a list
- 23:28Speaker 3: of pre existing conditions, like let's say you've got a
- 23:31Speaker 3: bung knee. You know, you had a heart issue at
- 23:34Speaker 3: some point, and you also have mental health. Insurers are
- 23:37Speaker 3: cracking down and they're not doing it to be awful
- 23:40Speaker 3: and mean, like they have underwriters whose job it is
- 23:44Speaker 3: to measure risk and go, okay, well, actually I don't
- 23:48Speaker 3: want to give Jess a policy because.
- 23:50Speaker 2: She's very very likely to claim on it. And at
- 23:52Speaker 2: the end of the day, we're insurance, and yes, insurance
- 23:56Speaker 2: is there to.
- 23:57Speaker 3: Protect you, but they are also betting people, and they're
- 24:00Speaker 3: betting that the people that they are ensuring hopefully don't claim,
- 24:04Speaker 3: so that their business stays profitable. And if they go
- 24:07Speaker 3: insure all these people who arguably need it and from
- 24:11Speaker 3: my perspective, deserve it and I want to have it
- 24:14Speaker 3: because it keeps their finances healthy. They're like, sorry, we'd
- 24:17Speaker 3: be paying out left, right and center and become a
- 24:19Speaker 3: non profitable company, and that's actually a really bad business.
- 24:22Speaker 2: Decision for them.
- 24:23Speaker 3: So it's more than personal, if that makes sense, And
- 24:27Speaker 3: I think you understanding that is also important as well,
- 24:29Speaker 3: because they've deemed you too high risk, but that doesn't
- 24:31Speaker 3: mean another company might not setting your lots of love.
- 24:34Speaker 2: I hope that whatever you're dealing with is, you know,
- 24:36Speaker 2: not too hard.
- 24:37Speaker 4: I know it can be a lot when you're trying
- 24:38Speaker 4: to get your finances and stuff in order and dealing
- 24:40Speaker 4: with all of those things as well.
- 24:41Speaker 2: So where I was sending you good thoughts, lots of love.
- 24:44Speaker 2: But should we get into the juicy DM? All right, yes,
- 24:47Speaker 2: of course.
- 24:48Speaker 3: So we've got a juicy DM, which I think is
- 24:51Speaker 3: it's not It's obviously juicy because it's about a toxic workplace,
- 24:54Speaker 3: but I also think it's a really relevant question, especially
- 24:57Speaker 3: at this point in time, so our community members help.
- 25:00Speaker 2: I need some advice.
- 25:01Speaker 3: I'm a pastry chef working sixty plus hours a week,
- 25:05Speaker 3: but I'm only paid for forty five, and overtime becomes
- 25:08Speaker 3: time in loo.
- 25:09Speaker 2: As I'm on a salary. It's physically exhausting.
- 25:12Speaker 3: The vibe is toxic, constant negative feedback like work harder,
- 25:16Speaker 3: do better, with nothing actually helpful being contributed to the conversation.
- 25:20Speaker 3: They swapped me to night shifts without extra pay and
- 25:23Speaker 3: extended my probation and said I'd be let go if
- 25:25Speaker 3: I didn't improve. I'm halfway through and haven't heard a word.
- 25:29Speaker 3: Since there are no jobs in my field where I live,
- 25:32Speaker 3: and I've had no luck in other industries. I've got
- 25:35Speaker 3: a mortgage and around twenty thousand dollars saved, and I'm
- 25:38Speaker 3: honestly just ready to walk with no job lined up.
- 25:41Speaker 3: Parts of me feel like I shouldn't waste my savings
- 25:44Speaker 3: just because I hate my job. That said, I don't
- 25:46Speaker 3: know how much longer I can take it. I'm just
- 25:49Speaker 3: after the community's input. Whether I'm being silly or smart
- 25:52Speaker 3: by putting me first, I'm.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Really sorry that's happening to you.
- 25:56Speaker 4: That sounds super stressful. I, as you know, guys know
- 26:00Speaker 4: quite risk adverse, I would say, especially with the mortgage
- 26:02Speaker 4: over your head, I would be walking. I really want
- 26:04Speaker 4: you to be able to prioritize your mental health, and
- 26:06Speaker 4: that's so important and so valid, But pragmatically speaking, your
- 26:12Speaker 4: emergency fund, your savings will only last you for so long.
- 26:15Speaker 4: It's a tough job market out there, and particularly because
- 26:17Speaker 4: you've just told me, you just said that there's no
- 26:19Speaker 4: jobs in your area, you're having a hard time. That
- 26:22Speaker 4: money will disappear more quickly than you think. And my
- 26:24Speaker 4: concern would be that the financial pressures of having to
- 26:28Speaker 4: pay a mortgage and not having money coming in could
- 26:31Speaker 4: also put I would argue the same level of strain
- 26:34Speaker 4: on you that you're already experiencing. Its kind of like
- 26:36Speaker 4: you'd be training one negative thing for another negative thing.
- 26:39Speaker 2: I would be it sounds like you might be already
- 26:42Speaker 2: but actively looking for jobs.
- 26:44Speaker 4: Also, speaking to fair work, I'm pretty sure depending on
- 26:46Speaker 4: your award and depending on what your previous pay rate was,
- 26:49Speaker 4: night shift generally means that you do need to be
- 26:51Speaker 4: paid a higher rate unless your previous rate was above award,
- 26:55Speaker 4: So I would be looking into that. If there's a union,
- 26:57Speaker 4: feel industry looking into that as well. Just making sure
- 27:01Speaker 4: that everything's above board, because a few of the things
- 27:03Speaker 4: you've said have kind of flagged to me that your
- 27:05Speaker 4: workplace might not be doing all the right things, So
- 27:07Speaker 4: you can give fair work call they exist for that
- 27:10Speaker 4: exact reason. Talk to them about your probation extension, talk
- 27:13Speaker 4: to them about the fact that you're not getting actionable feedback,
- 27:16Speaker 4: because that then also builds a historical chain of events,
- 27:21Speaker 4: so that if you were to be let go unfairly
- 27:23Speaker 4: or unfairly dismissed. You've got that evidence already supported and
- 27:27Speaker 4: noted within fair work, which I think is important. But yeah,
- 27:30Speaker 4: I know that that's probably not the answer that you're
- 27:32Speaker 4: looking for, and maybe I feel like beck might have
- 27:35Speaker 4: a different take on it.
- 27:37Speaker 2: Thought I'll give you the answer. She looked like she
- 27:39Speaker 2: was ready for her thoughts. Yes, because this is my thing.
- 27:42Speaker 5: As you guys know, I quit my job randomly to
- 27:44Speaker 5: do like literally four weeks at a job that I
- 27:46Speaker 5: wanted to do, and then I was.
- 27:48Speaker 2: Unemployed, and which she's not unemployed, by the way. No,
- 27:51Speaker 2: I just I only just got a part time job.
- 27:54Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is like, if you quit and
- 27:56Speaker 5: you don't have a job at the end of it,
- 27:58Speaker 5: you will never not make it work. I'm somehow made
- 28:01Speaker 5: it work. I still got rent money because I was like, oh,
- 28:04Speaker 5: I'm going to do this and this and this that
- 28:05Speaker 5: will just make rent money.
- 28:06Speaker 2: You're very resourceful. Well, thank you so much. But I
- 28:09Speaker 2: do think that, like, I don't think you will.
- 28:12Speaker 5: Have to worry about not having a job and not
- 28:15Speaker 5: being able to pay the bills, because I know that
- 28:17Speaker 5: would stress me out. I think it is so fun,
- 28:20Speaker 5: It is so exciting and there's something so chill about
- 28:23Speaker 5: being like, oh, I'm just I'm doing this little thing
- 28:25Speaker 5: that's temporary that I'm just doing because I need to
- 28:28Speaker 5: make money to pay the rent this month. It's like
- 28:31Speaker 5: when you have a full time job that you really hate,
- 28:33Speaker 5: you know what's paying the bills, but you're not like
- 28:35Speaker 5: you're not doing it to pay the bills. It's almost
- 28:37Speaker 5: like you're doing it because it's just part of your
- 28:38Speaker 5: life and you just hate it. But when you quit
- 28:41Speaker 5: your job and you're like, leave yourself a week or
- 28:44Speaker 5: two to just be unemployed, and then after that, don't
- 28:46Speaker 5: even if you can't find work in your field, then
- 28:49Speaker 5: do whatever the hell I've emailed recruiters and being like, hey,
- 28:52Speaker 5: I'm happy to do temp work. Sometimes that literally means
- 28:55Speaker 5: sitting at a desk with twenty other people who are
- 28:57Speaker 5: there to do temp work and literally uns stapling paper
- 29:01Speaker 5: and putting those papers in folders, and you do that
- 29:03Speaker 5: for eight hours a day, and it's like mind numbing.
- 29:05Speaker 5: You chuck your headphones in. You know that you're only
- 29:07Speaker 5: there so that you can make money. Everyone's only there
- 29:09Speaker 5: so they can make money. You don't have to put
- 29:11Speaker 5: on this whole like you know, when you go into
- 29:13Speaker 5: interviews and they're like, why do you.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Want to work here?
- 29:14Speaker 5: And you know it's because you want money, but you
- 29:16Speaker 5: have to be like, oh, I'm so passionate about I
- 29:19Speaker 5: don't know ice, creameres, you know, like.
- 29:21Speaker 2: Random places that you're trying to get jobs at so
- 29:23Speaker 2: you make money. Don't do any of that.
- 29:24Speaker 5: Just get temp jobs, just to like pickpacking, just get
- 29:27Speaker 5: a little kitchen hand job, whatever you can do to
- 29:29Speaker 5: make money in the meantime when you start needing to
- 29:32Speaker 5: make money again.
- 29:33Speaker 2: But I think put in your notice now.
- 29:36Speaker 5: In the meantime, be looking for really quick and easy
- 29:39Speaker 5: temp jobs.
- 29:41Speaker 2: Whatever you want to do. It doesn't have to be
- 29:42Speaker 2: in the same field. You're going to make it work.
- 29:45Speaker 5: And because you've quit your job, you're going to have
- 29:47Speaker 5: to make it work, and that there's something very exciting
- 29:49Speaker 5: about that. So put in your resignation and then make
- 29:52Speaker 5: it work, and I trust that you will. And then
- 29:54Speaker 5: you're going to find something slowly, slowly, you're gonna be looking.
- 29:57Speaker 5: You're going to find something you love, but you're just
- 29:59Speaker 5: gonna be making it work until you do. So don't
- 30:03Speaker 5: be sad for a moment longer.
- 30:04Speaker 2: You terrify me. Don't terrify me. I couldn't do that.
- 30:10Speaker 2: You will make it work, you would. I'm not disagreeing.
- 30:13Speaker 2: I'm not saying.
- 30:14Speaker 3: It's like two things can be true at one time,
- 30:17Speaker 3: Like that can be true, and then it can also
- 30:19Speaker 3: be true that for me that wouldn't work, and that's fine. That,
- 30:22Speaker 3: oh my lord, knowing that I would quit a job
- 30:24Speaker 3: and have a mortgage already sending me over the edge,
- 30:27Speaker 3: Like my anxiety is through the roof. Like I think
- 30:29Speaker 3: I would have more anxiety not having a job than
- 30:31Speaker 3: being in a shitty job with shitty people. Like just oh, anyway,
- 30:36Speaker 3: I think first things first, you are not being silly
- 30:38Speaker 3: at all, Like what you're describing sounds really unsustainable and
- 30:42Speaker 3: really unfair. As an employer of people, I have so
- 30:45Speaker 3: many questions. So one of the things you said is
- 30:48Speaker 3: like they extended my probation. Never heard another thing about it.
- 30:52Speaker 3: What if I extend someone's probation, which by the way,
- 30:57Speaker 3: hasn't ever happened, But you're gonna hear from me weekly
- 31:00Speaker 3: because I'm essentially saying, and I don't know how your
- 31:04Speaker 3: business is working this, but if hypothetically I needed to
- 31:08Speaker 3: extend someone's probation, The reason is because I'm not sure
- 31:11Speaker 3: I want them in my business. So I've had six
- 31:14Speaker 3: months with you and you have not proven to me
- 31:17Speaker 3: that you are.
- 31:17Speaker 2: The right fit.
- 31:18Speaker 3: And I go, well, I'm still not sure. I just
- 31:22Speaker 3: want a bit more probation time. Sorry, where's the plan?
- 31:26Speaker 3: Where are the landmarks that I can work towards that
- 31:29Speaker 3: show that I am the right person? Is it output?
- 31:32Speaker 3: Is it being on time to work?
- 31:34Speaker 1: Is it like?
- 31:34Speaker 2: What are these things?
- 31:35Speaker 1: Like?
- 31:35Speaker 3: Why was your probation extended? And that goes back to
- 31:38Speaker 3: what you said, Jess, call fair work. Explain your situation,
- 31:42Speaker 3: not just that like you feel uncomfortable in that it's toxic.
- 31:44Speaker 2: That's a very important factor. But they extended this.
- 31:47Speaker 3: What does this mean You're meant to have a plan
- 31:50Speaker 3: for that period of time because essentially you're on notice
- 31:53Speaker 3: because they're going to extend your probation and then go, hey, sorry,
- 31:56Speaker 3: now we've done another three months.
- 31:58Speaker 2: This really isn't working.
- 32:00Speaker 3: I think it's very reasonable and very valid to prioritize
- 32:04Speaker 3: your health in your well being over a toxic workplace.
- 32:06Speaker 3: So if that's the reason you're quitting, I think you
- 32:09Speaker 3: know it's money well spent. We have emergency savings for
- 32:11Speaker 3: a reason. And sometimes the emergency is getting out of
- 32:14Speaker 3: a situation we no longer want to be in, and
- 32:16Speaker 3: that is completely valid and completely fine. That said, you've
- 32:20Speaker 3: got a mortgage, and I think we need to balance
- 32:22Speaker 3: financial security and self care. Like where's the middle ground there? Like, yes,
- 32:26Speaker 3: you don't want to be there, go what are you
- 32:28Speaker 3: doing to get out of there? Are you applying for
- 32:31Speaker 3: heaps of other jobs? Are you looking at temp jobs?
- 32:34Speaker 3: Because you had some really really good suggestions you could
- 32:37Speaker 3: do six million things And if those things sound better
- 32:40Speaker 3: than your current workplace, go apply for them, solidify them,
- 32:43Speaker 3: then quit your job, go to another job where.
- 32:45Speaker 2: It's not toxic.
- 32:46Speaker 3: And yeah, you're not doing something that you love, but
- 32:48Speaker 3: at least you've got a job, You've got cash coming in,
- 32:50Speaker 3: and we can still be applying for your dream jobs
- 32:53Speaker 3: and the jobs that you want to be doing, because
- 32:55Speaker 3: like even if you're doing unstapling and putting stuff in
- 32:58Speaker 3: folders slagh, you're still getting money in the door.
- 33:02Speaker 2: And then when you get home you can apply for jobs.
- 33:03Speaker 3: And you know, even if you work there for two
- 33:05Speaker 3: weeks and then quit, at least you weren't ever in
- 33:08Speaker 3: a worse off financial position, and I think that's a
- 33:11Speaker 3: good thing for our mental health as well. So I
- 33:13Speaker 3: think I would be what's your exit plan. You've decided
- 33:16Speaker 3: you're leaving this job, are you applying for new jobs?
- 33:20Speaker 3: Are you making a plan?
- 33:21Speaker 2: What does that look like?
- 33:22Speaker 3: Is probably where I would come from with that. What
- 33:25Speaker 3: everybody else say, mostly you deserve better, but would you
- 33:28Speaker 3: like their two cents?
- 33:29Speaker 2: Absolutely so.
- 33:30Speaker 3: The first question I asked on the stories was, have
- 33:32Speaker 3: you guys ever worked in a toxic workplace? Seventy percent
- 33:37Speaker 3: seventy percent of you said yep, and I left. Sixteen
- 33:40Speaker 3: percent said no, thankfully, But then fourteen percent of you said, yep,
- 33:44Speaker 3: I'm still there.
- 33:45Speaker 2: Oh that's really sad, so sad because that's eighty four
- 33:50Speaker 2: percent of people who have or are in toxic I know,
- 33:54Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. No, No, definitely get out of there.
- 33:57Speaker 3: Next question we asked if you had twenty thousand dollars
- 34:00Speaker 3: in savings and a job like this with no other options,
- 34:03Speaker 3: would you leave?
- 34:04Speaker 2: Thirty nine percent of you said I'd stay with a
- 34:06Speaker 2: time limit.
- 34:07Speaker 3: Thirty one percent said yes, that's what savings are four
- 34:09Speaker 3: and thirty percent said no, I'd need to have another
- 34:12Speaker 3: job first.
- 34:13Speaker 2: Again, we're all just different people.
- 34:15Speaker 3: Like, that's a really, that's the annoying thing about money
- 34:18Speaker 3: and life, right Like Beck would just happily be like, nah,
- 34:21Speaker 3: I'll work it out, and I'd be like, I have
- 34:23Speaker 3: too much anxiety. We then said what's your two cents?
- 34:26Speaker 3: And I've got a little collection of these because I
- 34:28Speaker 3: know we're running out of time. First person said, keen
- 34:31Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts. My partner is a chef and
- 34:33Speaker 3: they routinely underpay him.
- 34:35Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 34:35Speaker 3: Next person said, don't quit until you speak with fair
- 34:39Speaker 3: work and get fairly compensated for your work.
- 34:41Speaker 4: Sam.
- 34:42Speaker 3: Next person said, I'd go back to only working the
- 34:44Speaker 3: hours I'm getting paid for until I can find another job,
- 34:48Speaker 3: which I think is important too. Like if they're only
- 34:50Speaker 3: giving you time in lou and then you can't take
- 34:52Speaker 3: the time in Lou off, it is actually no financial benefit.
- 34:57Speaker 3: Maybe you could be like, hey, I need all of
- 34:59Speaker 3: that time in lou and then use that time to
- 35:01Speaker 3: apply for other jobs. Yes, ye still getting paid. Someone
- 35:05Speaker 3: said staying in a toxic job can cost you more
- 35:08Speaker 3: than leaving.
- 35:08Speaker 2: It's true too, Vallad.
- 35:10Speaker 3: Another person said, I have a side hustle for this reason.
- 35:12Speaker 3: I can leave a toxic main job at any time,
- 35:15Speaker 3: they don't own me. Next person said, start taking your
- 35:18Speaker 3: time in lou surely you have some weeks accrued by now.
- 35:21Speaker 3: And then the last person said, your mental well being
- 35:23Speaker 3: is worth more than twenty grand. Aka, I think it's priceless.
- 35:27Speaker 2: Also a great point, so true. Great place to leave it, guys.
- 35:31Speaker 3: I hope you have a beautiful weekend and we will
- 35:34Speaker 3: see you bright and early on Monday morning for a
- 35:36Speaker 3: money diary.
- 35:37Speaker 2: Bye, guys, Bye? Did buy shared on?
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