Latest / Wits & Weights | Strength & Fat Loss Over 40 / Who Cares How Strong You Are? | Ep 338
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- 0:01Philip Pape: You walk into the gym feeling pretty good about yourself.
- 0:04Philip Pape: You've been consistent for six months and your squat is finally at body weight.
- 0:08Philip Pape: Then you see someone your age warming up with what you consider your max.
- 0:12Philip Pape: Your confidence evaporates.
- 0:14Philip Pape: You start second-guessing everything.
- 0:16Philip Pape: Maybe you should just stick to the machines in the corner where nobody can see how weak you are.
- 0:20Philip Pape: Sound familiar, or something like it.
- 0:22Philip Pape: That moment when someone else's strength makes you question your own worth as a lifter here's what nobody tells you.
- 0:29Philip Pape: That feeling is not only normal.
- 0:31Philip Pape: It is completely missing the point of why you're there in the first place.
- 0:35Philip Pape: So today we're going to break down why your current numbers are irrelevant to your success, how the comparison game is holding you back and how to think differently so that your training is more effective and enjoyable.
- 1:00Philip Pape: Welcome to Wits and Weights, the show that helps you build a strong, healthy physique using evidence, engineering and efficiency.
- 1:07Philip Pape: I'm your host, certified nutrition coach Philip Pape, and today we're going to tackle something that affects all of you.
- 1:13Philip Pape: It affects every single person who picks up a barbell, and that is myself included the toxic relationship we have with our lifting numbers, with our strength.
- 1:24Philip Pape: The title of this episode who Cares how Strong you Are has nothing to do with the fact that we don't care about strength.
- 1:30Philip Pape: It's the fact that we don't care about your current strength.
- 1:33Philip Pape: We care about where you've been and where you're going and what process you're following, whether the process of improvement is in place for you.
- 1:40Philip Pape: And when we think about the psychology here, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
- 1:45Philip Pape: It's the voice in your head that whispers.
- 1:47Philip Pape: You're weak when you see someone deadlifting twice your max or when you compare your numbers to a friend.
- 1:54Philip Pape: Or maybe your friend picks on you a little bit for that in good spirit perhaps, but it might cut you at your core, depending on who you are.
- 2:01Philip Pape: The embarrassment when someone asks how much you bench and your answer feels pathetic.
- 2:05Philip Pape: Or you don't want to answer.
- 2:06Philip Pape: The way that you avoid certain exercises because your numbers are quote unquote too low.
- 2:10Philip Pape: But what if I told you this entire mindset is not helpful at all.
- 2:15Philip Pape: It is preventing you from reaching your true potential.
- 2:17Philip Pape: What if the secret, the magic pill to getting stronger and building more muscle and actually enjoying your training has nothing to do with where you currently stack up with your absolute numbers or against other people?
- 2:30Philip Pape: So that's what we're going to look at today and I guarantee this episode is going to change how you think about this, because it's often the thing that is holding people back, not all the other information and the training programs and all of that.
- 2:44Philip Pape: Now, before we get into the topic, if you like this kind of mindset content, I'd love to hear from you and I'd love to send you more like it.
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- 3:29Philip Pape: All right, let's get into the show.
- 3:30Philip Pape: Let's start with the elephant in the room or the gym.
- 3:33Philip Pape: You're scrolling through social media, right?
- 3:36Philip Pape: We all do it, and you see someone, your age, someone you compare yourself to benching more than you.
- 3:43Philip Pape: Maybe they're benching 300, while you're working toward 200.
- 3:45Philip Pape: Honestly, the numbers don't matter.
- 3:47Philip Pape: In fact, that's part of the trap.
- 3:48Philip Pape: Or you're in the gym and the person next to you is squatting what looks like your max for a warmup set, and so what happens in your brain?
- 3:58Philip Pape: If you're like most people, there is a cocktail of shame, of inadequacy, of self-doubt, and it just floods your system.
- 4:07Philip Pape: It's a very human thing.
- 4:08Philip Pape: You start questioning your training, your genetics and your worth as a lifter, your self-worth.
- 4:16Philip Pape: So much of what holds us back is in what we think about ourselves as people, and we tie some of the things we do and some of the performance that we achieve as equivalent to our identity.
- 4:30Philip Pape: And it just isn't.
- 4:31Philip Pape: This is what I call the comparison trap.
- 4:33Philip Pape: It's one of the most destructive forces out there, especially in the world of fitness, especially today with social media, and here's why it's so damaging.
- 4:42Philip Pape: It shifts your focus from your own progress to your relative position in an imaginary hierarchy, a construct, the matrix, the abstract.
- 4:54Philip Pape: It doesn't mean anything to you and yet you put yourself in that leaderboard and again, it's a very human thing to do.
- 5:02Philip Pape: We love competition, we love comparison, but the problem with that hierarchy is that it's arbitrary.
- 5:10Philip Pape: Strong compared to what?
- 5:11Philip Pape: Compared to who?
- 5:13Philip Pape: A power lifter, a sedentary person who works in an office, Someone who's been training for 10 years or 20 years versus your one or two years?
- 5:21Philip Pape: Someone with different genetics, different training history, different body proportions?
- 5:26Philip Pape: The list goes on.
- 5:28Philip Pape: And the truth is there is no universal standard for strong enough.
- 5:32Philip Pape: I really don't like the strength standards.
- 5:35Philip Pape: I might've done one episode on them a long time ago and even then talked about how a lot of this is relative to your body weight and relative to your history and your capability and your process.
- 5:47Philip Pape: There is only stronger than you were yesterday, than you were last month, than you were last year, and that is the only comparison that actually matters for your progress, for your health and even yes, for your well-being and happiness.
- 6:05Philip Pape: Not how strong you are, but how strong you are compared to where you've been.
- 6:11Philip Pape: And I can think of at least a dozen clients right now including some that have had check-ins this week who come to me convinced that they're weak in some way because their deadlift is only this number, you know, 185 or 225.
- 6:32Philip Pape: And very often we'll look back at their history, whether it's with me, or even before they started being, we'll say well, what was it six months, six months ago?
- 6:35Philip Pape: Well, you've added 90 pounds.
- 6:35Philip Pape: Your deadlift, that's a phenomenal achievement, but it's hard to see that because you're comparing yourself to other people.
- 6:42Philip Pape: I have another client who her strength is going up very slowly, but her performance in her sport has gone up massively, to the point where she just won an elite competition, almost surprising herself, and it's because she had focused on her health and performance and strength.
- 7:00Philip Pape: And that is an outcome of following the process.
- 7:06Philip Pape: And even then she expressed concern for tying her self-worth to that achievement, which I agree.
- 7:11Philip Pape: It's not something we want to do.
- 7:13Philip Pape: We want to separate the two and understand that the performance is simply an indicator of the process we're following in the moment and once we shift to that progress, things can change.
- 7:25Philip Pape: Your motivation will start to go up, because that's the thing that feeds back to telling us that the actions we're taking make sense, the behaviors we are doing, we are engaging in, are serving us, and guess what that does?
- 7:37Philip Pape: That psychology feeds back in to our dedication to the craft, to improving our form, to avoiding ego lifting which can injure you, and then, ironically, this often leads to an increase in the numbers, in the strength, in the progress.
- 7:53Philip Pape: Now you might be thinking but Philip, don't numbers matter at all, right, isn't getting stronger?
- 7:58Philip Pape: The whole point?
- 7:59Philip Pape: Isn't wits and weights and your strength-centered, muscle-centered approach, all about strength?
- 8:03Philip Pape: Well, that's a great question.
- 8:04Philip Pape: Numbers absolutely matter.
- 8:06Philip Pape: They matter as feedback, they matter as motivation, they matter as markers of progress, but they don't define your worth or your potential or your identity as a lifter.
- 8:20Philip Pape: All right.
- 8:22Philip Pape: So think about it this way your current squat number, your PR, your 5RM, whatever you're measuring, is simply a snapshot of where you are right now and it's given your training history, your genetics, your recoverability, your life circumstances.
- 8:35Philip Pape: It's not a permanent label, it's not a ceiling, it's just data and, in fact, 20 years from now, your current squat number might be lower because of all those factors.
- 8:47Philip Pape: And yet it's still going to be a snapshot of all those things and it's not good or bad.
- 8:53Philip Pape: That has gone up or down.
- 8:54Philip Pape: It's just an indicator of where things are.
- 8:56Philip Pape: And I've seen, for example, 50 year old women who start with their body weight training, maybe some light dumbbells, eventually incorporate barbells, machines and get stronger.
- 9:07Philip Pape: I've seen 60-plus-year-old men who couldn't deadlift 95 pounds work up to pulling 300.
- 9:14Philip Pape: And so their age or starting strength or what have you didn't predict their potential.
- 9:21Philip Pape: Because there's plenty of older folks walking around this earth who will continue to be weak and unhealthy and unfit and have a poor lifespan and poor healthspan, and so it's hard.
- 9:32Philip Pape: You can't predict your potential.
- 9:34Philip Pape: But what can predict your potential?
- 9:36Philip Pape: Guess what can predict it?
- 9:37Philip Pape: Your consistency and your mindset.
- 9:41Philip Pape: Like those two things.
- 9:43Philip Pape: When I see someone who is committed to taking action and building consistency through the support structure we have, through habit formation, et cetera, and has a positive approach, that everything they do is a chance to learn and grow, no matter what.
- 9:59Philip Pape: No failure is a bad thing.
- 10:00Philip Pape: Every failure is just data.
- 10:01Philip Pape: That is a form of grit and persistence that will never fail you for the rest of your life.
- 10:06Philip Pape: And I know this from personal experience because my numbers do not always go up.
- 10:10Philip Pape: I've had injuries, I've had surgeries, I've had situations where I'm in a fat loss phase, I'm just not eating enough, and I've had situations where it was slightly unexplainable why my numbers didn't go up.
- 10:20Philip Pape: There's usually a reason, and sometimes the number going up in and of itself isn't the be-all, end-all as well.
- 10:28Philip Pape: There's research on neuroplasticity.
- 10:30Philip Pape: You've probably heard the term before.
- 10:32Philip Pape: It's about our brains.
- 10:33Philip Pape: It shows that our brains are very adaptable.
- 10:34Philip Pape: They can improve for the rest of our lives, well into our 80s and 90s, and the same principle applies to strength and muscle.
- 10:40Philip Pape: You know your current numbers are not your destiny.
- 10:42Philip Pape: Now I'm not saying that you can perpetually push your PR all the way up forever.
- 10:47Philip Pape: We know we can't do that, but nor do you necessarily want to do that or need to do that.
- 10:53Philip Pape: What actually defined you as a lifter is your consistency, your form, because that's a skill.
- 10:59Philip Pape: It's a skill that you're getting better at your effort.
- 11:01Philip Pape: Effort includes both making the attempt and making the attempt with intensity or with effort, right, that kind, so kind of different types of effort.
- 11:12Philip Pape: And then, of course, your willingness to learn and adapt, having that growth mindset rather than a fixed mindset.
- 11:18Philip Pape: And these are the qualities that are absolutely going to predict long-term success, no matter what, no matter where you happen to be today, regardless of the numbers.
- 11:26Philip Pape: So when you're constantly worried about how your numbers are stacking up, there are some destructive, very destructive things that are happening that will slow your progress when you get caught up in this race.
- 11:39Philip Pape: The first one is ego lifting.
- 11:41Philip Pape: You're going to load the bar with weight that you could barely handle, just to hit a certain number.
- 11:46Philip Pape: You're going to compromise your form.
- 11:47Philip Pape: You're going to increase your injury risk that you can barely handle.
- 11:47Philip Pape: Just to hit a certain number.
- 11:47Philip Pape: You're going to compromise your form.
- 11:47Philip Pape: You're going to increase your injury risk.
- 11:48Philip Pape: Don't do it.
- 11:49Philip Pape: I see it all the time Someone loading up the bench with weight they can barely control.
- 11:54Philip Pape: They get a half rep and if they don't have spotters or spotter arms, it could be a dangerous situation and they might even call that a PR.
- 12:02Philip Pape: If they barely get it up and it's just, you know, a half-assed lift.
- 12:05Philip Pape: There's no benefit in doing that whatsoever.
- 12:07Philip Pape: The second thing is you're going to avoid exercises because you feel like the numbers are embarrassing.
- 12:13Philip Pape: Right, you're going to skip the overhead press just because you can only press whatever weight 95 pounds and it's not moving up, so you just skip it.
- 12:19Philip Pape: Well, that kind of exacerbates the problem, doesn't it Right?
- 12:22Philip Pape: These might be what you need for balanced development, for injury prevention, for making progress.
- 12:29Philip Pape: The third destructive thing that happens here is you get stuck in, let's say, the wrong rep ranges or trying to do something over and over again.
- 12:39Philip Pape: Right, you only want to test your one rep max, because that's the number everybody cares about, and you haven't pushed it up.
- 12:43Philip Pape: And there you go, um, and you start to limit your variation.
- 12:47Philip Pape: And then you're you start to backslide, cause you're not serving your goals.
- 12:52Philip Pape: You don't even have a specific intentionality or purpose with your current training block that helps you focus on okay, I'm focused on volume or intensity, or you know, these rep ranges or this kind of cycling through my lifts or whatever.
- 13:05Philip Pape: And then the last part, which maybe is the most important part, and the sad part is, you lose the joy in training.
- 13:11Philip Pape: Every workout then becomes a test, a thing you have to do, instead of an opportunity to get better.
- 13:19Philip Pape: Instead of celebrating the fact that you can move heavy weight through space, which is a blessing, something to be grateful for you're lamenting that it's not heavy enough.
- 13:28Philip Pape: So how do we fix all this?
- 13:29Philip Pape: How do we maintain the motivation that the numbers can provide, but avoid the toxic comparison, the comparison game?
- 13:37Philip Pape: And so I think it starts with redefining what strength even means.
- 13:41Philip Pape: Right Now, we know the physical, the physics definition is production of force, right, but it's not about hitting arbitrary numbers.
- 13:49Philip Pape: It's about continuous improvement within your own context of strength.
- 13:55Philip Pape: That's why we tend to lose sight of that.
- 13:57Philip Pape: We tend to focus too much on strength in and of itself rather than the improvement of, or building of, strength.
- 14:02Philip Pape: So, instead of asking yourself how much can I lift, ask how much stronger am I getting?
- 14:08Philip Pape: Instead of am I strong, ask yourself am I stronger than I was?
- 14:14Philip Pape: I'm a huge fan of reframe.
- 14:15Philip Pape: Anybody who's worked with me or is in a physique university or you know, talk to me for any length of time knows I love to reframe, and a very powerful reframe is that every single rep you complete is a victory.
- 14:27Philip Pape: Every workout or training session where you show up is an achievement.
- 14:32Philip Pape: Every week that you consistently train and you didn't skip a session, you move things around to make it work is is really building something significant.
- 14:40Philip Pape: It's a legacy for your body and for your strength.
- 14:43Philip Pape: So I want you to start thinking about strength in terms of compound interest.
- 14:48Philip Pape: Albert Einstein allegedly called compound interest the eighth wonder of the world.
- 14:52Philip Pape: Did you know that?
- 14:53Philip Pape: It's a cool little thing?
- 14:54Philip Pape: I don't know if it's true, but I heard it.
- 14:57Philip Pape: Small, consistent additions, right, just like compound interest of your money, compound interest of your habits James Clear talked about it in Atomic Habits.
- 15:05Philip Pape: They're going to compound over time into massive, massive gains.
- 15:09Philip Pape: Right, a five pound increase on the bar might seem like nothing in out of context, but if you do that consistently over months and over years, you are going to be amazed where you end up to the point where it's almost hard to put perspective on it and actually look back and say, oh my God, look what I did in just a month or three months or a year.
- 15:25Philip Pape: I still do that.
- 15:27Philip Pape: I still think wow.
- 15:29Philip Pape: I have a lot that I want to accomplish.
- 15:30Philip Pape: And sometimes I have to take a breath.
- 15:32Philip Pape: Look at a before and after photo, look at my numbers from a year ago or two years ago.
- 15:37Philip Pape: You know anything.
- 15:38Philip Pape: Whatever.
- 15:39Philip Pape: It makes sense to compare yourself with yourself of the past, not with anyone else.
- 15:44Philip Pape: You could be amazed, you could surprise yourself, and this is why I love working with beginners.
- 15:48Philip Pape: Sometimes and I say sometimes a little bit sarcastically, because there's pros and cons right Beginners are not yet corrupted by this comparison culture.
- 15:57Philip Pape: Usually, like when it comes to strength cause, they're just not in that world yet.
- 16:01Philip Pape: They're excited about the small wins they celebrate.
- 16:04Philip Pape: You know, adding five pounds to the squat, they see how much change they can, they can um induce in their body in a short period of time, and that excitement, that focus on personal progress.
- 16:16Philip Pape: We need to maintain that, and I know it gets a little bit more challenging the more you grow.
- 16:21Philip Pape: But the more you grow and the more capable you are, the more you realize the effort that it takes and you tend to step it up to the next level as you go forward.
- 16:29Philip Pape: So if I were to give you some practical strategies for maintaining this, because we all love like specific tools, don't we?
- 16:36Philip Pape: The first thing I'm going to say is to track your progress.
- 16:38Philip Pape: Don't just track where you're at, but track the improvement over time.
- 16:42Philip Pape: You know your training log, your app, whatever, whether it's food training, whatever, biofeedback, anything you want to track, so that you can look at where you were three months ago or six months ago, a year ago, and that's your reference point for where you've come.
- 16:55Philip Pape: Right, and maybe not every single metric has quote unquote gone up, and that's okay.
- 16:59Philip Pape: But look at the totality of it.
- 17:01Philip Pape: Look at the totality and don't discount factors like your relationships, your success at work, your mindset, like you could make very little strength gains, but have a much better mindset about the whole thing and be enjoying what you're doing.
- 17:17Philip Pape: Isn't that a huge amount of progress right there mentally?
- 17:19Philip Pape: So track your progress.
- 17:21Philip Pape: The second thing is celebrate all the non-numerical victories as well, and I kind of just alluded to this, right, maybe you felt more skilled with your squat today, maybe your form was better, maybe you recovered faster between sets or feel a little more, you know, heart healthy, right, just just healthier in general, and these improvements are just as important as adding weight to the bar.
- 17:41Philip Pape: They really are.
- 17:42Philip Pape: The third thing here is to understand progress is not linear.
- 17:45Philip Pape: I have to keep hammering home this message.
- 17:47Philip Pape: You're going to have bad days, you're going to have plateaus, you're going to have periods where your numbers go down due to a number of factors life stress, recovery, injury, intentionally because you're in a fat loss phase and you just can't maintain all that strength.
- 18:00Philip Pape: It's okay.
- 18:00Philip Pape: It doesn't mean you're getting weaker.
- 18:02Philip Pape: It means you're human and it's part of the process.
- 18:05Philip Pape: In fact, those moments might teach you more than any other.
- 18:14Philip Pape: Fourth, regarding the psychology here of progress is focusing on the process, not the outcome.
- 18:16Philip Pape: I've said these things many times, but I can't say them enough, because humans are really bad at staying motivated toward a goal that's far away.
- 18:26Philip Pape: If you currently bench 95 and you want to bench 225, that's very hard to maintain motivation to get there unless you have micro goals that include process-related goals.
- 18:39Philip Pape: Meaning I'm going to bench twice a week in my program, like that is a micro goal that is process-oriented, right, the numbers are going to follow, but the process is the thing you control.
- 18:49Philip Pape: You're optimizing the process for the outcome, but you're still optimizing and focusing on the process.
- 18:56Philip Pape: And then the last thing I have for you is that, remember, strength is specific, because being quote unquote strong at powerlifting doesn't necessarily make you strong at, you know, rock climbing or BJJ or, uh, you know, even just other movements in the gym.
- 19:13Philip Pape: Yes, strength is a production of force.
- 19:15Philip Pape: Yes, strength can be measured in many cases by numbers, but it also depends on what your strength goal is, if you're trying to develop strength or muscle, some combination, if you have a sport that you care about.
- 19:28Philip Pape: In other words, there's lots of things that are valuable when we talk about strength.
- 19:32Philip Pape: As much as I come from the starting strength world, where number on the bar is important, that's for novices, that's for beginners, that's an easy metric that you can control, that goes up, but then at some point you have to branch out.
- 19:44Philip Pape: So those are some techniques for the psychology of this, and I think something that's going to surprise you here is that some of the strongest people I know, some of the strongest people I know I can think of people that I don't know personally because they're big influencers, or I can think of people I do know personally, you know in terms of absolute numbers.
- 20:02Philip Pape: They're also some of the most insecure about their lifting.
- 20:05Philip Pape: Why?
- 20:06Philip Pape: Well, guess what?
- 20:07Philip Pape: They're doing the same thing.
- 20:09Philip Pape: They've achieved impressive numbers, but then they're still comparing themselves to elite athletes and they're still feeling inadequate and they're still chasing external validation.
- 20:17Philip Pape: Now, a little bit of this is okay.
- 20:19Philip Pape: So I'm going to give everybody here, myself included, some permission to drive yourself, to drive yourself to improve and always want to be improving.
- 20:27Philip Pape: Right, that's not really what I'm talking about.
- 20:29Philip Pape: There is a positive angle on that, but there's also a very negative one that we've addressed, related to self-worth and external validation.
- 20:37Philip Pape: That, I think, is the dangerous part.
- 20:38Philip Pape: On the flip side, I know people who are never going to bench 225, but their lives look completely different than they did before they started training.
- 20:47Philip Pape: They've gone from being unable to carry groceries upstairs to deadlifting their body weight.
- 20:52Philip Pape: They've built confidence.
- 20:53Philip Pape: They've improved health markers we can't discount how huge that is from A1C to lipids, to blood pressure, to resting heart rate, all of it and they discovered what their bodies are capable of.
- 21:07Philip Pape: Right Now, who is winning there?
- 21:09Philip Pape: Is it the person with the bigger numbers, or the person who's transformed their life and the positive psychology around it?
- 21:13Philip Pape: And so the person with the bigger numbers, or the person who's transformed their life and the positive psychology around it?
- 21:16Philip Pape: And so the most successful people and lifters that I work with or have had the pleasure to know.
- 21:22Philip Pape: They've got one thing in common They've learned to find satisfaction in their own journey.
- 21:31Philip Pape: They use numbers as tools.
- 21:33Philip Pape: That's all they are.
- 21:34Philip Pape: They're not measures of self-worth, they're just tools.
- 21:36Philip Pape: They're data.
- 21:37Philip Pape: They're motivated by getting better, not reaching a certain bigger number than someone else.
- 21:44Philip Pape: Sure, they want their own numbers to go up, absolutely.
- 21:46Philip Pape: We all have that inside of us and that can drive us.
- 21:49Philip Pape: But stop comparing yourself to others, and you know.
- 21:52Philip Pape: The cool thing Is that this thinking applies to everything your career, your relationships, your personal growth.
- 22:00Philip Pape: Stop comparing your chapter one to someone else's chapter 20 and focus on your own progress and everything will change.
- 22:08Philip Pape: So the next time you're in the gym and that voice starts telling you you're not strong enough, remember that you are not competing with anyone but yourself.
- 22:16Philip Pape: You're not trying to impress anyone but you.
- 22:18Philip Pape: You're not trying to lift someone else's weight.
- 22:19Philip Pape: You're trying to lift more than you could yesterday.
- 22:21Philip Pape: That is it, and that's not just good advice for the gym, that's a philosophy for life that I believe will serve anyone quite well.
- 22:29Philip Pape: All right, if today's episode resonated with you.
- 22:31Philip Pape: If you want more content that builds both physical and mental strength, join my email list at witsandweightscom.
- 22:38Philip Pape: Slash email or click the link in the show notes.
- 22:44Philip Pape: I love to write up and send out strategies in the email list to develop a mindset that will serve you not just in the gym but in every area of your life where you're working to improve, because your strength journey is again more than numbers on the bar.
- 22:56Philip Pape: It's becoming the person who shows up, who persists and who finds joy in the process of getting better.
- 23:01Philip Pape: All right, until next time.
- 23:03Philip Pape: Keep using your wits lifting those weights and remember the only person you need to be stronger than is who you were yesterday.
- 23:10Philip Pape: I'll talk to you next time here on the Wits and Weights Podcast.