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Before Another Goal: Making Room to Reflect | Shannah Kennedy | F*ck, I’m Nearly 50! · F*ck, I’m Nearly 50!

• 0:00
  Dom Hind: Hi, I'm Dom Hind, and f*ck, I'm nearly 50.
• 0:02
  Dom Hind: Actually, I'm nearly 48 and charging towards the next chapter, like I mean it.
• 0:08
  Dom Hind: And today's guest, you already know her.
• 0:11
  Dom Hind: Shannah Kennedy was on this podcast earlier this year, and that episode quickly became the most listened to.
• 0:18
  Dom Hind: Why?
• 0:19
  Dom Hind: Because she doesn't just help you make vision boards or set fluffy goals.
• 0:24
  Dom Hind: She helps you take control of your life on your terms.
• 0:28
  Dom Hind: So as the year wraps up, I wanted to bring her back for a special in-person episode to talk about exactly that.
• 0:36
  Dom Hind: How you close the year without regret and plan the next one with purpose.
• 0:40
  Dom Hind: Because too often we roll into the new year, burnt out, reactive, and unclear, promising we'll figure it out later.
• 0:48
  Dom Hind: But Shanna's here to remind us, tomorrow starts today.
• 0:51
  Dom Hind: Saying yes to one thing means saying no to another.
• 0:54
  Dom Hind: You are the asset.
• 0:56
  Dom Hind: You need to protect it.
• 0:58
  Dom Hind: And in this episode, we talk about how to reflect on the year that's been, honestly and gently.
• 1:04
  Dom Hind: What questions to ask yourself before the year ends, how to stop people pleasing and start protecting your energy, or why clarity is your best friend going into 2026, what you can do in the next few weeks to close the year feeling proud, not panicked, and then make sure that the new one is set to perform its goals.
• 1:27
  Dom Hind: What we really need is that clarity.
• 1:29
  Dom Hind: And that clarity helps you make sure that you are not drifting into the next year.
• 1:35
  Dom Hind: So let's get into it.
• 1:38
  Dom Hind: Let's go.
• 1:39
  Dom Hind: Because f*ck, I'm nearly 50, and isn't it amazing?
• 1:43
  Dom Hind: Some guests just leave a mark.
• 1:55
  Dom Hind: And for this show, that was 100% Shanna Kennedy.
• 2:01
  Dom Hind: Her first episode was the most listened to of the series so far.
• 2:06
  Dom Hind: And if you heard it, you'd know why.
• 2:08
  Dom Hind: She's a master coach, best-selling author, and the queen of clarity.
• 2:13
  Dom Hind: She helps people design their lives on purpose and not on auto autopilot.
• 2:19
  Dom Hind: Shanna taught me to define my values, protect my energy, and stop saying yes to everything out of guilt.
• 2:26
  Dom Hind: Although I'm being crap at that at the moment.
• 2:30
  Dom Hind: And now she's back in person.
• 2:32
  Dom Hind: Yes, in person, to help us close out the year with intention and set up the next one without the panic, pressure, or people pleasing.
• 2:43
  Dom Hind: Shanna, welcome back to Fuck I'm Nearly 50.
• 2:47
  Shannah Kennedy: Oh, it's so good to be here in real life.
• 2:49
  Shannah Kennedy: In person.
• 2:50
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm like, oh, these people get to see you in person.
• 2:52
  Shannah Kennedy: I've got to come back in person.
• 2:54
  Dom Hind: Yep.
• 2:54
  Dom Hind: And I'm so glad that you are here.
• 2:56
  Dom Hind: Um, let's start here.
• 2:58
  Dom Hind: What's the one thing you do at the end of each year to reset your mindset?
• 3:06
  Shannah Kennedy: I think the end of the year is a silly season for everybody, and everybody is limping, got that limping to Christmas feeling.
• 3:13
  Shannah Kennedy: And that's where I take a whole day off.
• 3:16
  Shannah Kennedy: Like one day.
• 3:18
  Shannah Kennedy: And go down to the beach, or I call it like Soaks Day, where you're soaking rather than drinking soaking.
• 3:26
  Shannah Kennedy: You're soaking maybe in a hot spring, or you're gone to a health center for the day or some massage for the day.
• 3:34
  Shannah Kennedy: To just press pause for a moment.
• 3:37
  Shannah Kennedy: Just give yourself one day to reflect.
• 3:40
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 3:41
  Shannah Kennedy: To actually sit down with a pen and paper and reflect on wow, how am I feeling?
• 3:46
  Shannah Kennedy: What went well, what didn't go some well, maybe lessons I might have learnt.
• 3:50
  Shannah Kennedy: What was my word of the year?
• 3:52
  Shannah Kennedy: Did I stick to it?
• 3:53
  Shannah Kennedy: What am I learning about myself?
• 3:55
  Shannah Kennedy: Because we keep evolving.
• 3:57
  Shannah Kennedy: And right in the middle of the craziness, when everyone thinks they can't take a day, I bet if I booked a day out for you, you'd do it.
• 4:05
  Dom Hind: Yeah, wow.
• 4:06
  Dom Hind: That's a great thing, isn't it?
• 4:07
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 4:08
  Dom Hind: Because you do, you literally do.
• 4:10
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 4:10
  Shannah Kennedy: It's like stealing a day for yourself and everyone's finishing up at school or whatever.
• 4:17
  Shannah Kennedy: And um, yeah, it's it's luxury.
• 4:20
  Shannah Kennedy: That's what I call luxury.
• 4:21
  Dom Hind: Yeah, it is luxury.
• 4:22
  Dom Hind: Well, time is actually luxury.
• 4:24
  Dom Hind: So having that day to yourself to just sit there.
• 4:28
  Dom Hind: See, even as you said that, I'm like, oh, Camp Cove Beach in the sun, with your little chair, with a pen and paper, yeah.
• 4:39
  Shannah Kennedy: Maybe with some nice music, not a podcast music.
• 4:42
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 4:42
  Shannah Kennedy: Like just be a human being for one day out of the 365 to just be you and to just maybe even be grateful for the year.
• 4:53
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 4:53
  Dom Hind: I think it's important.
• 4:54
  Dom Hind: I think it is, yeah, to be grateful.
• 4:57
  Dom Hind: We don't, we're not grateful enough.
• 4:58
  Dom Hind: Even just the little things, even just giving yourself that time is a good thing to be grateful for.
• 5:03
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, and and grateful for being healthy or maybe not visiting a hospital or grateful that, you know, my family's healthy, or you know, it's not how many clients did you have and how many books did you sell?
• 5:18
  Shannah Kennedy: And it's actually not about that.
• 5:19
  Shannah Kennedy: When you sit still, you go a lot deeper.
• 5:22
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 5:22
  Dom Hind: What's the first thing you recommend people to do, honestly, when they reflect on the year?
• 5:30
  Shannah Kennedy: Is not focus on what I didn't do so well.
• 5:34
  Shannah Kennedy: Because a lot of people say, Oh, it's another year and I didn't lose weight, or I didn't pay off the mortgage, or I didn't do what I said I was going to do.
• 5:42
  Shannah Kennedy: None of that's helpful.
• 5:43
  Shannah Kennedy: So maybe focus on a couple of the wins that really resonate in your heart that you're proud of and sit in that, sit in and bathe in that for a little while first.
• 5:54
  Shannah Kennedy: But I find a lot of people just say, Well, I didn't do that and I didn't do that.
• 5:58
  Shannah Kennedy: The win might be a work win, but maybe think about yourself because we work for the business of self.
• 6:05
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 6:06
  Dom Hind: And even if it is the holiday or, you know, last week I got to spend my Nan's 93rd birthday with her in Tasmania.
• 6:14
  Dom Hind: And it was amazing.
• 6:15
  Dom Hind: And you know, like for me, reflecting, that is a win.
• 6:18
  Dom Hind: That's a huge win.
• 6:19
  Dom Hind: It's a huge win.
• 6:20
  Dom Hind: It's a real human win.
• 6:22
  Dom Hind: It is a human win.
• 6:23
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 6:23
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 6:24
  Dom Hind: Good.
• 6:25
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 6:25
  Dom Hind: How do we close out the year without focusing only on what we didn't do?
• 6:31
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, which was said, yeah, focus on what you did, but also maybe how you're feeling.
• 6:36
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, okay.
• 6:37
  Shannah Kennedy: You know, because we have to get out of our head and into our body.
• 6:41
  Shannah Kennedy: And I find that I get in my head very quickly, like all of us.
• 6:45
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 6:46
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, the head's pretty foggy also because of, you know, menopause at the moment.
• 6:51
  Shannah Kennedy: But when I allow myself stillness, it's like sitting the glass of water down.
• 6:57
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 6:57
  Shannah Kennedy: And you know, if you stop stirring it and let it sit, the sediment drops to the bottom and we have clarity.
• 7:03
  Shannah Kennedy: And all of a sudden we're like, well, why am I doing that?
• 7:06
  Shannah Kennedy: And why did I say yes to that?
• 7:08
  Shannah Kennedy: And yep, I'm just gonna back off a little bit.
• 7:10
  Shannah Kennedy: So yeah, stillness, stillness first.
• 7:13
  Dom Hind: Yeah, okay.
• 7:14
  Dom Hind: I I think that is yeah, a nice thing to think about too.
• 7:19
  Dom Hind: Just being still.
• 7:20
  Dom Hind: When were you still last?
• 7:21
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 7:21
  Shannah Kennedy: Like with nothing, like not with Netflix, not with you know.
• 7:26
  Shannah Kennedy: I often one of my little hacks is I sit in my car.
• 7:30
  Shannah Kennedy: So I'm in the supermarket, car park, and I might stay there for 15 minutes, just still, perfectly, because no one can bother me there.
• 7:40
  Dom Hind: No, unless someone touched me.
• 7:41
  Dom Hind: Are you okay?
• 7:42
  Dom Hind: Are you okay?
• 7:43
  Shannah Kennedy: But no one's gonna bother you there.
• 7:44
  Shannah Kennedy: So I can actually sit there and just let go and just breathe and just be still and just feel what's going on in my world rather than just what's on the to-do list.
• 7:55
  Shannah Kennedy: Hurry up, hurry up, hurry up.
• 7:57
  Dom Hind: It's also um one of um uh guests on here, Dr.
• 8:00
  Dom Hind: Craig, he said not only is being still great for your mind, but it's also getting you to feel what's going on in your body as well.
• 8:09
  Dom Hind: So, you know, that stillness actually allows you to listen to your body.
• 8:13
  Shannah Kennedy: It means the body can catch up to the brain.
• 8:15
  Shannah Kennedy: It's like the Gatorade Station.
• 8:17
  Shannah Kennedy: It's that stopping, it's taking a few beautiful breaths for yourself.
• 8:21
  Shannah Kennedy: I've got this amazing app, which is free by the way, called the breathing app.
• 8:26
  Shannah Kennedy: Funny that.
• 8:27
  Dom Hind: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:28
  Shannah Kennedy: And I set it for five minutes to do five by five, five in, five out, which is very hard for people to do, slow breathing.
• 8:36
  Shannah Kennedy: And it's the one breath pattern that regulates your whole nervous system.
• 8:40
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 8:40
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm like, oh, surely I can do that in the car park.
• 8:43
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah so I've got I love it.
• 8:45
  Shannah Kennedy: I just do it all the time, and nobody knows I'm doing it.
• 8:48
  Shannah Kennedy: So the breathing app.
• 8:49
  Shannah Kennedy: They're my brain, there my brain breaks and it lets my body catch up.
• 8:54
  Shannah Kennedy: And it's like stopping at the Gatorade stations in a marathon because we run a marathon every day.
• 8:59
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 9:00
  Shannah Kennedy: We're all athletes of life, as we talk about.
• 9:02
  Shannah Kennedy: We're athletes of, you know, leading the family, leading the job, leading everything.
• 9:07
  Shannah Kennedy: We need to stop at the Gatorade stations and just take a breath.
• 9:10
  Shannah Kennedy: And that breath is beautiful, it's so beautiful.
• 9:14
  Shannah Kennedy: And you might make a different decision after you've taken the breath.
• 9:17
  Dom Hind: Yes, where you're coming from a a different place where it's probably a little bit calmer than one of reaction.
• 9:24
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, it's a response rather than a reaction.
• 9:27
  Shannah Kennedy: And it's it's is this good for me?
• 9:29
  Shannah Kennedy: Does this serve me?
• 9:31
  Shannah Kennedy: Is this what I need to put on my plate right now?
• 9:34
  Shannah Kennedy: Why am I doing this?
• 9:35
  Shannah Kennedy: For a pat on the back?
• 9:36
  Shannah Kennedy: Or am I doing this because I truly feel it's really important to me?
• 9:41
  Dom Hind: Yep.
• 9:42
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 9:42
  Dom Hind: I've had two people now this week say to me, you need to be honest and actually be really clear on is this serving me and is this not?
• 9:51
  Dom Hind: Because stop saying yes to things.
• 9:53
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 9:54
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 9:54
  Dom Hind: And it's on a day.
• 9:56
  Dom Hind: It's unease.
• 9:56
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 9:58
  Dom Hind: Sease to please.
• 9:59
  Dom Hind: Yes, that is it.
• 10:01
  Dom Hind: Um, how do you know when it's time to say no and protect your energy, which is a good lead-on?
• 10:09
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 10:09
  Shannah Kennedy: Well, if you're an athlete and you're feeling a sore knee coming on or your calf is cramping and you don't address it, um, it gets worse and worse and worse.
• 10:18
  Shannah Kennedy: So as we have that disease to please, it's just that tank, that oxygen tank is just going down and down and down and down and down, and then all of a sudden you're burnt.
• 10:29
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 10:29
  Shannah Kennedy: So that burnout becomes a health scare, usually a health scare.
• 10:34
  Shannah Kennedy: It's if you don't listen to your body, your body will make you listen.
• 10:37
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 10:38
  Shannah Kennedy: So there's people with, you know, lumps in their breasts, there's people with fatigue, there's people with now presenting autoimmune diseases.
• 10:46
  Shannah Kennedy: That's all happening in midlife.
• 10:48
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 10:48
  Shannah Kennedy: Because we're addicted to achievement and we're addicted to the to-do list.
• 10:53
  Shannah Kennedy: And we need to learn to pace a little bit more.
• 10:55
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 10:55
  Shannah Kennedy: And breathe.
• 10:56
  Shannah Kennedy: And breathe.
• 10:57
  Shannah Kennedy: And stop.
• 10:58
  Shannah Kennedy: So I did study breathing all year this year.
• 10:59
  Shannah Kennedy: That was my goal.
• 11:02
  Shannah Kennedy: Is what is something that I can study that's actually going to help me for the rest of my life in any situation, whether it be to fire myself up or to calm myself down.
• 11:13
  Shannah Kennedy: Because the breath is like a remote control.
• 11:16
  Shannah Kennedy: And it's the only system that you can override in your whole body is the breath.
• 11:22
  Shannah Kennedy: So I thought, wow, that's the most powerful tool.
• 11:24
  Shannah Kennedy: I think I'll study that.
• 11:26
  Shannah Kennedy: So just doing some breath work this year has really helped my energy a lot.
• 11:33
  Shannah Kennedy: Really?
• 11:33
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 11:34
  Shannah Kennedy: No burnout.
• 11:35
  Dom Hind: None.
• 11:35
  Shannah Kennedy: Zero.
• 11:36
  Dom Hind: Right.
• 11:36
  Dom Hind: How often do you give yourself that time to breathe?
• 11:43
  Shannah Kennedy: Well, I don't have time to meditate.
• 11:45
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 11:45
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm not going to meditate if I'm honest with myself.
• 11:48
  Shannah Kennedy: Really, really honest.
• 11:49
  Shannah Kennedy: But I can afford three times a day, morning, noon, and night, to do five minutes.
• 11:57
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 11:58
  Shannah Kennedy: Okay.
• 11:58
  Shannah Kennedy: And that could be before your school pickup.
• 12:00
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 12:01
  Shannah Kennedy: It could be, you know, after school pickup.
• 12:03
  Shannah Kennedy: It could be when you wake up, when you go to sleep.
• 12:06
  Shannah Kennedy: I put it on to go to sleep, that pattern.
• 12:07
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 12:08
  Dom Hind: Right.
• 12:08
  Shannah Kennedy: Okay.
• 12:08
  Shannah Kennedy: And that's all I'm going to do.
• 12:11
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 12:11
  Shannah Kennedy: I know myself.
• 12:12
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 12:12
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm not going to sit there for 20 minutes.
• 12:14
  Shannah Kennedy: It's not going to happen.
• 12:15
  Dom Hind: See, it's funny.
• 12:15
  Dom Hind: Like I'm three quarters of the way through a 66-day meditation challenge.
• 12:20
  Dom Hind: And I'm supposed to meditate twice a day.
• 12:22
  Dom Hind: And I can get the first one in, but I just can't like the second one.
• 12:26
  Dom Hind: It's just tricky.
• 12:27
  Dom Hind: And I try and commit to it, but it's hard.
• 12:31
  Dom Hind: But every time I do it and just have a you know that time to be still and breathe, it's amazing.
• 12:38
  Dom Hind: But it's the time.
• 12:40
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, it's the time and it's the commitment when you're in a really busy time of life.
• 12:44
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 12:44
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, unless you're really obsessed.
• 12:46
  Shannah Kennedy: If you're really obsessed by that's your thing, meditation, but your thing is also exercise and being social.
• 12:54
  Shannah Kennedy: And if it's just your thing, you can do it.
• 12:57
  Shannah Kennedy: But if you've got multiple things, I think it's a bit, it's a bit much.
• 13:00
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 13:01
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, and you've got to also think about your personality.
• 13:04
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 13:04
  Dom Hind: What are you saying now?
• 13:07
  Dom Hind: Um, you uh you always say tomorrow starts today, and it's one of my favorite things in the world.
• 13:17
  Dom Hind: How does that apply as we enter into 2026?
• 13:22
  Dom Hind: Oh my goodness.
• 13:24
  Shannah Kennedy: I know.
• 13:24
  Shannah Kennedy: I think it's focusing on your nighttime routine.
• 13:27
  Shannah Kennedy: You know how everybody talks about your morning routine and you get up and you win the day.
• 13:32
  Shannah Kennedy: And we do that with the three M's, the make your bed, move your body, mindfully breathe.
• 13:37
  Shannah Kennedy: Then we pace the day, the marathon with the breath work in between.
• 13:41
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 13:42
  Shannah Kennedy: But then how do you finish?
• 13:43
  Shannah Kennedy: It's actually how do you set up tomorrow to win?
• 13:46
  Shannah Kennedy: So, what are the structures you put in place?
• 13:48
  Shannah Kennedy: So, you know, after dinner I brush my teeth because then otherwise I'll eat on the couch.
• 13:54
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 13:54
  Shannah Kennedy: You know, for sure.
• 13:55
  Shannah Kennedy: It'll be 8:30 and I'll be looking for some morsel of something.
• 13:59
  Shannah Kennedy: So I already feel good that I'm not going to do that.
• 14:04
  Shannah Kennedy: And then a bit of stretching, a bit of legs up the wall while I'm watching Netflix, because that's what I want to do.
• 14:10
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 14:10
  Shannah Kennedy: I want to watch Netflix.
• 14:11
  Shannah Kennedy: I love it.
• 14:12
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 14:13
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, so how can I make my routines get me ready for tomorrow?
• 14:18
  Shannah Kennedy: And part of it is we have to honor recovery.
• 14:23
  Shannah Kennedy: So if we're going to be these really fast super duper achievers, we have to build in a little bit of recovery that's a doable, not time out.
• 14:32
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:33
  Shannah Kennedy: That's actually on top of what I'm already watching TV.
• 14:35
  Shannah Kennedy: So I can stretch and put my legs up the wall.
• 14:38
  Dom Hind: Double track it.
• 14:39
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 14:39
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 14:40
  Dom Hind: How how can you make the nighttime routine stick when every night is different?
• 14:49
  Dom Hind: And you know, in the mornings we've got our alarms that set us to wake up, which we then can go through and m make the day work.
• 14:57
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 14:57
  Dom Hind: But what is how can we do it at night?
• 15:00
  Dom Hind: Is it the same thing?
• 15:01
  Dom Hind: Set an alarm.
• 15:02
  Shannah Kennedy: Like we all we all have dinner.
• 15:03
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 15:04
  Shannah Kennedy: Right?
• 15:04
  Shannah Kennedy: So anything that you can tie into your dinner routine.
• 15:07
  Shannah Kennedy: So when you have dinner, you might be doing the dishes.
• 15:11
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, what do you do after the dishes?
• 15:13
  Shannah Kennedy: So I would prep my breakfast, soak my oats tomorrow, brush my teeth, might write in my gratitude, might put my face cream on so that when I'm finished watching TV, you're ready.
• 15:25
  Shannah Kennedy: Stay to bed.
• 15:26
  Shannah Kennedy: I don't want to start all that stuff.
• 15:27
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:28
  Shannah Kennedy: It's too hard.
• 15:28
  Shannah Kennedy: So tie it with something that is already done all the time.
• 15:33
  Dom Hind: See, it's interesting for me because with kids still needing to be, you know, I put them to bed, like you know, put them to bed, do a meditation with them, all that stuff.
• 15:44
  Dom Hind: It's every night is different because sometimes they finish at different times and you know, there needs to be that flexibility.
• 15:50
  Shannah Kennedy: But I think maybe asked to dinner, you do you first.
• 15:53
  Dom Hind: Yeah, okay.
• 15:54
  Dom Hind: And then the kids.
• 15:55
  Shannah Kennedy: So yeah, uh it's finding what your recipe is.
• 15:58
  Shannah Kennedy: And I think for next year that's a challenge for people is to not only win the morning, but if athletes don't do their nighttime stuff correctly, they can't show up the next day well anyway.
• 16:10
  Shannah Kennedy: So I'd love people to stop doing what's sabotaging them.
• 16:13
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 16:14
  Shannah Kennedy: Which is maybe ladylike couch.
• 16:16
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:16
  Shannah Kennedy: Watching the fifth episode I've been watching.
• 16:20
  Shannah Kennedy: Like have a time where you do stop, like nine o'clock, and then do what you need to do.
• 16:26
  Shannah Kennedy: It's not starting to do more, it's actually dropping off things that are not serving you as well.
• 16:33
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 16:33
  Dom Hind: Yeah, I think that's a good thing.
• 16:35
  Dom Hind: Um, why is it important to plan life, not just goals or resolutions?
• 16:43
  Shannah Kennedy: Because goals are just a little map for the brain.
• 16:47
  Shannah Kennedy: Life is the big picture.
• 16:49
  Shannah Kennedy: Life is, but how do you want to feel?
• 16:51
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 16:52
  Shannah Kennedy: Do you want to feel connected to people?
• 16:54
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, how do you want to feel physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually?
• 16:59
  Shannah Kennedy: It's bigger.
• 17:00
  Shannah Kennedy: It's so much bigger than a goal.
• 17:01
  Shannah Kennedy: So the life thing is, you know, when you do a vision board or something, you're putting up pictures of how you want to feel.
• 17:09
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 17:09
  Shannah Kennedy: Oh, that that woman up there, she's 20 years older than me.
• 17:13
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm 55.
• 17:14
  Shannah Kennedy: So I always think of my 65-year-old self, 75-year-old self.
• 17:18
  Shannah Kennedy: What am I doing for her?
• 17:20
  Shannah Kennedy: That's bigger than just a goal.
• 17:22
  Shannah Kennedy: Goal is short term for me.
• 17:23
  Shannah Kennedy: You set a goal every season, as we talked about last time.
• 17:26
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 17:27
  Shannah Kennedy: One goal per season every 12 weeks.
• 17:29
  Shannah Kennedy: That's it.
• 17:29
  Shannah Kennedy: That's enough.
• 17:30
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 17:31
  Dom Hind: Um, I I love how you always say, what does my I use my 80-year-old self because I always do that.
• 17:38
  Dom Hind: And even at the gym when we're lifting weights and we're asked, do we want to do another set?
• 17:43
  Dom Hind: I'm like, uh no, but my 80-year-old self really wants to.
• 17:48
  Dom Hind: So let's do it.
• 17:49
  Dom Hind: Isn't it amazing?
• 17:50
  Shannah Kennedy: It overrides your brain.
• 17:51
  Shannah Kennedy: It overrides your brain.
• 17:53
  Shannah Kennedy: I know.
• 17:53
  Shannah Kennedy: I do the same.
• 17:54
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm at, I don't feel like going for a walk in Melbourne today because it's raining sideways.
• 17:59
  Shannah Kennedy: And my 75-year-old self says, Move.
• 18:03
  Shannah Kennedy: You need to move for me.
• 18:04
  Shannah Kennedy: You need agility, you need to be out there, you need to constantly be moving.
• 18:09
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, take the stairs.
• 18:11
  Shannah Kennedy: She gives me a pat on the back.
• 18:12
  Shannah Kennedy: So when you really focus on it, it sounds quite weird, but psychology, you have a new best friend, which is your 10-year-old self.
• 18:22
  Shannah Kennedy: And that's who you're working for and serving and deciding why you're not going to waste that money because she wants that either for her personal trainer or whatever she might want.
• 18:32
  Shannah Kennedy: So it makes the brain just think a lot bigger than next year.
• 18:37
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 18:38
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Dom Hind: I like that.
• 18:39
  Dom Hind: What does a values-aligned year actually look like in practice?
• 18:47
  Shannah Kennedy: I think knowing your values is always number one, which we've always talked about, which is asking yourself, what is the most important thing to you in the world today?
• 18:56
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 18:57
  Shannah Kennedy: And it's usually your health, your family, achievement, in harmony, freedom, creativity, something like that.
• 19:04
  Shannah Kennedy: But and where are you going to say no?
• 19:07
  Shannah Kennedy: Where are you going to protect your boundaries this year?
• 19:10
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 19:12
  Shannah Kennedy: Where are you going to shut the gate and stop giving the we talked about the tomato plant before?
• 19:17
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm going to write a book about tomato plants.
• 19:18
  Shannah Kennedy: And people just keep giving away their tomatoes.
• 19:21
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 19:21
  Shannah Kennedy: And there's none left.
• 19:23
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 19:23
  Shannah Kennedy: For the right people.
• 19:24
  Shannah Kennedy: The people that really matter to you get the worst side of you because you've just been trying to do too much on your to-do list.
• 19:32
  Shannah Kennedy: And yeah, I think it's really important.
• 19:34
  Shannah Kennedy: If you want to be values aligned, you have to create a structure or a guidelines for yourself for the year ahead.
• 19:42
  Dom Hind: Yeah, I I think that that is very important.
• 19:44
  Dom Hind: Um, what's the biggest mistake people make when setting goals for the new year?
• 19:50
  Dom Hind: They're not committed.
• 19:53
  Shannah Kennedy: So say you with your meditation for example.
• 19:56
  Dom Hind: Yes, thanks.
• 19:57
  Dom Hind: Just pick up me for that.
• 19:58
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 19:59
  Shannah Kennedy: Um try.
• 19:59
  Shannah Kennedy: Trying means I'm going to try and do it, but I'll maybe allow some excuses to come into play.
• 20:05
  Shannah Kennedy: So I've had to pick up the kids or I'm a bit tired.
• 20:08
  Shannah Kennedy: So I'm not going to do it.
• 20:09
  Shannah Kennedy: Too busy, not going to do it.
• 20:11
  Shannah Kennedy: But when you commit to something wholeheartedly, you just do it.
• 20:14
  Shannah Kennedy: And what people do is maybe come think they're committing to things that they're not really committed to.
• 20:21
  Shannah Kennedy: So if you're going to write a goal or set an intention, only set one.
• 20:26
  Shannah Kennedy: But make sure you're real.
• 20:28
  Shannah Kennedy: Because what happens to your confidence when you don't do things?
• 20:31
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 20:31
  Shannah Kennedy: You get angry at yourself.
• 20:32
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 20:33
  Shannah Kennedy: It does.
• 20:34
  Shannah Kennedy: So I'd rather set one.
• 20:35
  Shannah Kennedy: So I said, I'm going to learn how to breathe this year.
• 20:37
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 20:38
  Shannah Kennedy: That's it.
• 20:38
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 20:40
  Shannah Kennedy: Signed up for a 20-week immersive.
• 20:42
  Shannah Kennedy: Oh, wow.
• 20:43
  Shannah Kennedy: I had to show up every week.
• 20:45
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, I had to go and live in gingerbine for four days, in the bush, and become certified and master it.
• 20:52
  Shannah Kennedy: So I only had one goal.
• 20:54
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 20:55
  Shannah Kennedy: For the year.
• 20:55
  Shannah Kennedy: That was it.
• 20:56
  Shannah Kennedy: So if you have one goal for the year and you create a structure to support it, your confidence goes through the roof because you're winning all the time.
• 21:04
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 21:04
  Dom Hind: How did you feel at the end of being certified?
• 21:07
  Shannah Kennedy: Oh, amazing.
• 21:08
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm like, I'm 55 and I'm still learning.
• 21:10
  Shannah Kennedy: This is so exciting.
• 21:12
  Shannah Kennedy: What can I study next?
• 21:13
  Shannah Kennedy: And it was connection with like-minded people also interested in it.
• 21:18
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 21:19
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, it was very community focused.
• 21:21
  Shannah Kennedy: I can now go and teach it at schools to kids.
• 21:24
  Shannah Kennedy: Oh, wow.
• 21:25
  Shannah Kennedy: I can go to hospitals and teach it.
• 21:27
  Shannah Kennedy: I can teach all of my clients, which I already sort of do anyway.
• 21:31
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, but I could take it into prisons, I can take it anywhere now.
• 21:34
  Shannah Kennedy: So women in domestic violence who may not have taken a breath for 10 years.
• 21:40
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 21:40
  Shannah Kennedy: A safe breath.
• 21:41
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 21:42
  Shannah Kennedy: To be able to hold space for them and teach them how to breathe.
• 21:45
  Shannah Kennedy: Um just be incredible for me in the future.
• 21:48
  Shannah Kennedy: So there's so much opportunity.
• 21:50
  Shannah Kennedy: So only commit to things that really light you up.
• 21:54
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 21:54
  Shannah Kennedy: Okay.
• 21:55
  Dom Hind: Good.
• 21:55
  Dom Hind: Um, how do you plan for things that don't fit into a spreadsheet?
• 22:01
  Dom Hind: Like joy, connection, and rest.
• 22:04
  Shannah Kennedy: Oh, yeah.
• 22:05
  Dom Hind: I love those.
• 22:06
  Shannah Kennedy: Well, if you have a spreadsheet.
• 22:10
  Dom Hind: Or a diary.
• 22:11
  Dom Hind: Or a diary diary.
• 22:12
  Dom Hind: Or a plan.
• 22:13
  Dom Hind: Right, yeah.
• 22:14
  Shannah Kennedy: You should be free to be joyful and creative and spontaneous.
• 22:19
  Shannah Kennedy: So a lot of creative people that I coach balk at.
• 22:23
  Shannah Kennedy: I don't want to do a plan or a 12-week plan or a life plan or a 10-year plan.
• 22:28
  Shannah Kennedy: But when we get them into it and they do it, they actually find that there's so much less in their head that they become more creative, more joyful.
• 22:38
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 22:38
  Shannah Kennedy: Because they're not worrying about anything.
• 22:40
  Shannah Kennedy: It's all on paper.
• 22:41
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 22:41
  Shannah Kennedy: And our job as humans on the planet is to collect, I call them balloons or day of gratitude, let go of the dark ones.
• 22:50
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 22:50
  Shannah Kennedy: We've got beautiful water, you know, we've got amazing equipment here.
• 22:55
  Shannah Kennedy: We've got lovely lady over there producing.
• 22:58
  Shannah Kennedy: Thanks, Mario.
• 23:00
  Shannah Kennedy: Thank you very much.
• 23:02
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, and we've got this opportunity to have a conversation, to share it globally.
• 23:07
  Shannah Kennedy: I mean, there's so much to be grateful for.
• 23:10
  Shannah Kennedy: That we have a car, a pillow, yeah, a bed, food, a refrigerator, a kettle.
• 23:15
  Shannah Kennedy: So I go around just collecting my balloons all day.
• 23:18
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm so joyful.
• 23:19
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 23:20
  Shannah Kennedy: So lightness and joy are two words for me that are very important every morning.
• 23:26
  Shannah Kennedy: Approach today with lightness and joy.
• 23:28
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 23:29
  Shannah Kennedy: Just show up.
• 23:30
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 23:30
  Shannah Kennedy: For a plate aid on the planet.
• 23:32
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 23:32
  Dom Hind: Plate aid on the planet.
• 23:33
  Shannah Kennedy: And we're not surviving, we're not, we're not, you know, miracle workers healing people and doing heart surgery.
• 23:41
  Dom Hind: No.
• 23:41
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm not saving lives.
• 23:42
  Shannah Kennedy: No.
• 23:43
  Shannah Kennedy: But I think what we can do is enjoy this day on the planet and spread joy and be creative and let go of some of the black balloons.
• 23:53
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 23:54
  Dom Hind: Do you know what?
• 23:54
  Dom Hind: I think it it's um so when we first met was in 2017 and just sold with collective.
• 24:02
  Dom Hind: And even then it was so much of the unknown.
• 24:06
  Dom Hind: And back then, I think I was wearing so much black and navy, and just because that was the uniform, that was what you had to do.
• 24:18
  Dom Hind: But I think by you introducing the light and joy is when I started wearing colour and just making sure that it's fascinating how colour does bring joy.
• 24:33
  Dom Hind: But not only joy, it also makes people come and talk to you if you're wearing colour.
• 24:39
  Dom Hind: And it's fascinating because you have so many interesting conversations that you would normally not have had.
• 24:45
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, and you're such a role model for that.
• 24:46
  Shannah Kennedy: Like you are this colour.
• 24:48
  Shannah Kennedy: But it's all it looks like joy.
• 24:52
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 24:53
  Shannah Kennedy: It's creative.
• 24:54
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 24:55
  Shannah Kennedy: It's expressive.
• 24:57
  Shannah Kennedy: It lightens you up.
• 24:58
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 24:59
  Shannah Kennedy: Completely.
• 24:59
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 25:00
  Shannah Kennedy: If you put it on, you feel good.
• 25:01
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 25:02
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, it's exciting.
• 25:03
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 25:04
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 25:04
  Dom Hind: It is.
• 25:05
  Shannah Kennedy: You need a plan for that.
• 25:05
  Shannah Kennedy: No, just show up with it.
• 25:06
  Shannah Kennedy: Show up and do it.
• 25:08
  Shannah Kennedy: So I every morning I'm like, okay, I've got to collect balloons.
• 25:11
  Shannah Kennedy: Because last night I put them all away.
• 25:13
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, right.
• 25:14
  Shannah Kennedy: Every day is a new collection.
• 25:16
  Shannah Kennedy: Every day.
• 25:16
  Shannah Kennedy: So how many did I collect today?
• 25:18
  Shannah Kennedy: Oh, not many.
• 25:19
  Shannah Kennedy: Oh, that's not good.
• 25:20
  Shannah Kennedy: You weren't you weren't living a grateful life then.
• 25:23
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, right.
• 25:24
  Shannah Kennedy: So part of my passion is to live a grateful life because I think we live in an incredible country.
• 25:31
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 25:31
  Shannah Kennedy: So incredibly safe.
• 25:33
  Shannah Kennedy: We have a lot of opportunity.
• 25:35
  Shannah Kennedy: So to live a grateful life, you have to constantly be collecting moments of gratitude.
• 25:39
  Shannah Kennedy: So the visual for me is just the girl running around with the balloons who's light and joyful and colourful.
• 25:46
  Shannah Kennedy: No black one means.
• 25:48
  Dom Hind: Are they all the same colour balloons or are they different colours?
• 25:50
  Shannah Kennedy: Different.
• 25:50
  Shannah Kennedy: And so I even painted a picture this year in I saw that.
• 25:55
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 25:56
  Shannah Kennedy: I do paint by numbers because it has to look good.
• 26:00
  Shannah Kennedy: So paint by numbers, this girl running through the fields with all of her balloons.
• 26:05
  Shannah Kennedy: And even painting that made it be a part of me.
• 26:09
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 26:10
  Shannah Kennedy: Really a part of me.
• 26:12
  Shannah Kennedy: Every stroke was, yep, this is what I'm really committed to, living a life of gratitude.
• 26:16
  Shannah Kennedy: And so, you know, I'm in the taxi, I'm on the plane, there's a metal tube that's taking me into the sky.
• 26:22
  Shannah Kennedy: And don't know how to be grateful for, right?
• 26:26
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 26:26
  Shannah Kennedy: A lot.
• 26:27
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 26:27
  Shannah Kennedy: So when you really um wake up and live wide awake like that, you don't need to set big goals.
• 26:35
  Dom Hind: No.
• 26:36
  Dom Hind: No, yeah, you get the joy and the small sum.
• 26:38
  Dom Hind: Okay, I like that.
• 26:39
  Dom Hind: Um, what does your personal 2026 plan look like?
• 26:44
  Dom Hind: And can you share a sneak peek?
• 26:48
  Shannah Kennedy: Well, it is a year of big change because my husband is finishing his job after 24 years.
• 26:56
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 26:56
  Shannah Kennedy: And we will have a bit of another gap sabbatical, which is always very hard because they're scary where you actually don't work for a period of time.
• 27:08
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 27:08
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, so he is committed to at least six months to a year.
• 27:12
  Shannah Kennedy: Wow.
• 27:13
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, to fully recover, to restore, to come from a place of overflow, to see what unfolds and not plan it.
• 27:22
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, so I'm very excited for him, and I will go on lots of trips with him.
• 27:27
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, um, as I will.
• 27:29
  Shannah Kennedy: So it is a year to not be super focused for me.
• 27:32
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 27:33
  Shannah Kennedy: It's actually going to be a year of spontaneous.
• 27:36
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, right.
• 27:37
  Dom Hind: So you're living in flow.
• 27:39
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm gonna just flow wherever it takes me, which is really unusual because every year it is quite structured, and but that's all been because I've had school kids and now my both of my kids have finished school.
• 27:50
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 27:51
  Shannah Kennedy: I want to run around and collect balloons and be free.
• 27:54
  Shannah Kennedy: And then that next decade, what will that be about?
• 27:58
  Shannah Kennedy: And and I think you need a bit of stillness and a bit of joy, and then you create again.
• 28:03
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, you probably need a break.
• 28:04
  Shannah Kennedy: It's a little bit like athletes after the Olympics.
• 28:07
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 28:08
  Shannah Kennedy: They don't sit down the day after the Olympics and plan the next four year schedule.
• 28:12
  Shannah Kennedy: No, they go and be free for a bit.
• 28:14
  Shannah Kennedy: You know, all the footballers are overseas now being free because football's finished before they come back.
• 28:20
  Shannah Kennedy: And I think everyday people don't allow themselves to do that.
• 28:24
  Dom Hind: I think you're right.
• 28:25
  Dom Hind: Even between like when you are between jobs, you have minimal amount of time.
• 28:30
  Dom Hind: Or if you do, it's panic.
• 28:32
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 28:32
  Shannah Kennedy: So the gift of the gap is to give yourself space to create stillness, to find joy, to come home to self and then create from there.
• 28:42
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, okay.
• 28:43
  Shannah Kennedy: And not panic.
• 28:44
  Shannah Kennedy: And you you've been through this.
• 28:46
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 28:47
  Shannah Kennedy: Don't panic.
• 28:48
  Shannah Kennedy: There's a lot of rides in the playground.
• 28:49
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 28:50
  Shannah Kennedy: There's a lot of jobs out there, there's a lot that we can create.
• 28:53
  Shannah Kennedy: We don't have to do it all this year.
• 28:55
  Shannah Kennedy: No.
• 28:56
  Shannah Kennedy: We think we do.
• 28:58
  Shannah Kennedy: We've got 20 years to achieve a lot.
• 29:00
  Shannah Kennedy: We don't have to try and do everything all at once.
• 29:03
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 29:04
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 29:05
  Dom Hind: Pace the race.
• 29:06
  Dom Hind: Pace the race.
• 29:07
  Dom Hind: Okay, good.
• 29:08
  Dom Hind: Um, what rituals or habits help you reset at the end of the year?
• 29:14
  Shannah Kennedy: Well, it is taking that day off to really sit down and just be a human and feel my body.
• 29:20
  Shannah Kennedy: And am I, you know, I'm still here.
• 29:23
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 29:23
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, I like to um definitely do an end-of-year sort of summary for myself in the journal.
• 29:31
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 29:31
  Shannah Kennedy: I also like to look what Chinese year ahead it is.
• 29:34
  Shannah Kennedy: So this year was Year of the Snake.
• 29:36
  Shannah Kennedy: Yep.
• 29:36
  Shannah Kennedy: Shedding.
• 29:37
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 29:38
  Shannah Kennedy: Next year is the horse, which is embodying.
• 29:41
  Dom Hind: Okay, I am a horse.
• 29:42
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 29:43
  Shannah Kennedy: Right.
• 29:43
  Dom Hind: So what's uh what does the embodying mean?
• 29:45
  Shannah Kennedy: Well, I have to do a bit of research about that.
• 29:47
  Shannah Kennedy: But it's about you've you've this year was a year of pruning and tidying up and shedding.
• 29:53
  Shannah Kennedy: It was, you know, stop doing things that don't serve you anymore and sabotage you, or people, you know, like just gently moving away from some people that don't serve you.
• 30:03
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 30:03
  Shannah Kennedy: So next year it's like really being your true self.
• 30:06
  Shannah Kennedy: So I'm looking forward to it.
• 30:08
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm really looking forward to it.
• 30:09
  Dom Hind: Well, that'll be good if you're in flow in that state as well.
• 30:13
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 30:14
  Shannah Kennedy: And I think we can't be in flow all the time.
• 30:16
  Shannah Kennedy: No.
• 30:17
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 30:17
  Shannah Kennedy: It's a gap.
• 30:17
  Shannah Kennedy: It is the pause part because if you're in flow all the time, you sort of don't know where you're going.
• 30:23
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 30:24
  Shannah Kennedy: And the brain does need a map.
• 30:26
  Shannah Kennedy: So when you are having a stop at a big um town on the map, it's like, let's just stop and enjoy the town a bit.
• 30:34
  Shannah Kennedy: Let's not drive through.
• 30:35
  Shannah Kennedy: So give yourself time sometimes.
• 30:38
  Shannah Kennedy: And there are pivotal points in life.
• 30:40
  Shannah Kennedy: Midlife.
• 30:41
  Shannah Kennedy: Midlife is the chrysalis.
• 30:43
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 30:43
  Shannah Kennedy: Caterpillar.
• 30:45
  Shannah Kennedy: Uh no more.
• 30:46
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm not a school mum anymore.
• 30:47
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 30:48
  Shannah Kennedy: We have to dissolve that part before we become the butterfly.
• 30:51
  Shannah Kennedy: So there are certain points in life where it is good to flow and let go and then reset.
• 30:58
  Dom Hind: Are you mentally prepared for not being a school mum?
• 31:01
  Dom Hind: Mm-hmm.
• 31:02
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 31:02
  Shannah Kennedy: I am.
• 31:03
  Shannah Kennedy: Because I have a life plan, remember?
• 31:05
  Shannah Kennedy: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 31:06
  Shannah Kennedy: Okay, okay.
• 31:06
  Shannah Kennedy: So probably five years ago at 50, or even before 50, I think it was maybe nine, 10 years ago when I was going, okay, I'm 45, I'm going to be 50.
• 31:18
  Shannah Kennedy: By the time I'm 55, I have no kids at school.
• 31:21
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 31:22
  Shannah Kennedy: So my mind was already seated.
• 31:24
  Shannah Kennedy: So I was already talking to women who had no kids at school.
• 31:30
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 31:30
  Shannah Kennedy: What do you how did how was that for you?
• 31:32
  Shannah Kennedy: How did you do that?
• 31:33
  Shannah Kennedy: What did you do?
• 31:34
  Shannah Kennedy: I was talking to women who were going through menopause because nobody was talking about it.
• 31:39
  Dom Hind: No, not back then.
• 31:40
  Dom Hind: No.
• 31:40
  Shannah Kennedy: Back then.
• 31:41
  Shannah Kennedy: Even five years ago, it was 50.
• 31:43
  Shannah Kennedy: Nobody talked about it.
• 31:44
  Shannah Kennedy: So I was at health retreats asking Chinese doctors about it.
• 31:49
  Shannah Kennedy: I was I was preparing.
• 31:50
  Shannah Kennedy: I was really preparing myself.
• 31:52
  Shannah Kennedy: So I've actually really enjoyed the whole thing.
• 31:55
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 31:55
  Shannah Kennedy: The whole transition because I did quite a bit of research.
• 31:59
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 31:59
  Dom Hind: Because it's interesting.
• 32:01
  Dom Hind: There's so many women that I know that when their kids finish school, they just fall off a cliff.
• 32:08
  Dom Hind: Because they have invested so much of themselves in their kids and need not do the work that they don't know what to do.
• 32:17
  Dom Hind: Send them to me.
• 32:18
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 32:19
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:19
  Shannah Kennedy: We need a plan.
• 32:20
  Shannah Kennedy: So, so but for that, I think is yes, it is very normal for our identity to be in our title, which is the school mum that does everything or your job, but that's not, that's really dangerous.
• 32:34
  Shannah Kennedy: So we need to be a whole person who also is a school mum.
• 32:38
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 32:39
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, or also goes to work, but we need to come back to self, really come home to self.
• 32:45
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 32:45
  Dom Hind: And I think that's that is something that we tend to forget at times is that you have to be happy with you before you can actually be giving.
• 32:55
  Shannah Kennedy: And my daughter finished year 12, and within three weeks, she said, I think I'm going to do a gap here, and moved out.
• 33:03
  Shannah Kennedy: Oh, and I thought, oh, hang on, hang on.
• 33:06
  Shannah Kennedy: You're supposed to be home to your 26, remember?
• 33:09
  Shannah Kennedy: 27.
• 33:10
  Shannah Kennedy: And she said, No, no, I've got an opportunity to go and live on the Gold Coast.
• 33:14
  Shannah Kennedy: So I'm I really want to take it.
• 33:17
  Shannah Kennedy: Mum, what would you do if you were 19 years old?
• 33:20
  Shannah Kennedy: Was her question.
• 33:21
  Shannah Kennedy: Very smart girl.
• 33:22
  Dom Hind: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:22
  Shannah Kennedy: I said, Oh, honey, I would have already gone.
• 33:25
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 33:25
  Shannah Kennedy: So off you go.
• 33:26
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, but that would that was hard for me because it was extra quick.
• 33:30
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 33:30
  Shannah Kennedy: Whereas my son, who's 21, still lives at home, but he's hardly ever home.
• 33:34
  Shannah Kennedy: He's so it's really my husband and I.
• 33:36
  Shannah Kennedy: But it happened overnight rather than a I thought it was gonna take four or five years and it didn't.
• 33:42
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, it was quick.
• 33:43
  Shannah Kennedy: And she's thriving.
• 33:44
  Shannah Kennedy: So that's good.
• 33:45
  Shannah Kennedy: Healthy birds leave the nest, they say.
• 33:47
  Shannah Kennedy: So I must have raised independent, adventurous kids.
• 33:50
  Shannah Kennedy: But that that was tricky for me, but I brought I took a lot of breaths.
• 33:56
  Dom Hind: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:56
  Dom Hind: Well, you were trained in it.
• 33:58
  Dom Hind: Yeah, so it was a perfect.
• 34:00
  Shannah Kennedy: It was a good distraction.
• 34:01
  Shannah Kennedy: So I think for a lot of women who are experiencing this change, yes, study is an incredible distraction to all of the emotions that you're feeling that you don't want to ruminate in for too long.
• 34:15
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 34:15
  Shannah Kennedy: So just by focusing on the study, I had a new purpose that was fresh and new and different.
• 34:20
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 34:21
  Shannah Kennedy: So I didn't have a lot of time to feel sorry for myself.
• 34:24
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 34:25
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 34:25
  Dom Hind: That's a great tip.
• 34:28
  Dom Hind: What are you saying yes to in the new year?
• 34:33
  Dom Hind: And what are you leaving behind?
• 34:36
  Shannah Kennedy: Oh, that's a big one.
• 34:37
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm definitely saying yes to more adventure.
• 34:42
  Shannah Kennedy: So more trips, more going away, because I can now.
• 34:46
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 34:47
  Shannah Kennedy: So my all my old excuses don't stack up anymore because my husband likes to travel a lot.
• 34:53
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, I do have to look after my dad, though.
• 34:55
  Shannah Kennedy: He's 85.
• 34:56
  Shannah Kennedy: So that's the other position that women find themselves in in their 50s, is also looking after the parents.
• 35:03
  Shannah Kennedy: So that's a consideration.
• 35:05
  Shannah Kennedy: But yes, to a lot more a lot more spontaneous fun because we're in our year of flow.
• 35:12
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 35:12
  Shannah Kennedy: And just saying, well, why the hell not?
• 35:14
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 35:14
  Shannah Kennedy: Um and no, I'm going to let go of probably just being the good girl all the time, you know.
• 35:23
  Shannah Kennedy: I have let go of a lot of that, but I still do a bit of that.
• 35:26
  Dom Hind: What as in the people pleaser?
• 35:27
  Dom Hind: Yeah, right.
• 35:28
  Dom Hind: It's it is hard.
• 35:30
  Dom Hind: Doing what's right.
• 35:31
  Dom Hind: It is hard to let go of that.
• 35:33
  Dom Hind: Even though you know you should be doing what's right for you, it's still hard.
• 35:39
  Shannah Kennedy: But you still want to see you're still pleasing your parents.
• 35:42
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 35:43
  Shannah Kennedy: Right?
• 35:43
  Shannah Kennedy: It's it's and they seem to lose their filter a little bit.
• 35:46
  Shannah Kennedy: I know my dad will never listen to this.
• 35:49
  Shannah Kennedy: So but they do lose their filter a little bit, yes, and and need you more, and it can be quite brutal.
• 35:58
  Shannah Kennedy: It can be quite brutal.
• 35:59
  Shannah Kennedy: And I I think we just get this freedom of not being a school mum, but then you've got the you've got the other side.
• 36:05
  Shannah Kennedy: So it's a tricky time to navigate.
• 36:07
  Shannah Kennedy: So just to flow a little bit and ease up on yourself having to achieve all of this stuff right at this minute.
• 36:13
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, that will come later again.
• 36:15
  Shannah Kennedy: I think.
• 36:15
  Shannah Kennedy: I think post-menopause, which nobody talks about, is when we can come into our great wisdom.
• 36:21
  Shannah Kennedy: We can achieve enormous things, incredible things in our 60s.
• 36:26
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, and I'm really excited for that to come.
• 36:29
  Dom Hind: Yeah, that's good.
• 36:30
  Dom Hind: It's it's funny.
• 36:31
  Dom Hind: Um you say that the parents uh remove their filter.
• 36:36
  Dom Hind: I've totally removed my filter from my parents now, and I'm just like, no, that's just not good enough.
• 36:42
  Dom Hind: No, no, no.
• 36:44
  Dom Hind: I don't think I know how to handle it, but it's it's you know, good.
• 36:48
  Dom Hind: I think I need it too.
• 36:50
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, sometimes you need to.
• 36:51
  Shannah Kennedy: You have to set your boundary.
• 36:52
  Shannah Kennedy: You have to set the boundary, which is really important.
• 36:55
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, but yeah, it's a tricky time to navigate the 50s, I think, in so many different areas.
• 37:01
  Shannah Kennedy: There's so much happening, there's so much change happening.
• 37:04
  Shannah Kennedy: Your body, you get a new brain with menopause.
• 37:07
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 37:07
  Shannah Kennedy: You've got aging parents, you've got kids trying to be adults, and who am I without the school system?
• 37:14
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 37:14
  Shannah Kennedy: Which is a really big transition for them where they have to find their identity.
• 37:19
  Shannah Kennedy: Very tricky.
• 37:20
  Shannah Kennedy: The first year out of school, very tricky for kids until they find, oh, I don't see my friends every day at school.
• 37:27
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 37:27
  Shannah Kennedy: It's all taken away, the structure's taken away.
• 37:30
  Shannah Kennedy: So everybody is going into that cyclone at the same time.
• 37:36
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, but that's what I really prepared myself for.
• 37:40
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 37:40
  Dom Hind: Get ready for the cyclone.
• 37:41
  Dom Hind: I've still got a few years.
• 37:42
  Dom Hind: Yeah, flow, flow.
• 37:45
  Dom Hind: Um, okay, a few true or false questions.
• 37:50
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 37:50
  Dom Hind: Burnout is just part of being successful.
• 37:54
  Dom Hind: Oh, totally false.
• 37:56
  Shannah Kennedy: Totally false.
• 37:57
  Shannah Kennedy: You know, I'm gonna say false around that because that means you haven't cared for yourself properly.
• 38:02
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, and you haven't had boundaries, and that means you're not a high performer.
• 38:05
  Shannah Kennedy: Because athletes have boundaries, they don't burn out, they're quite selfish.
• 38:10
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, but that's why they're great.
• 38:12
  Shannah Kennedy: So we need to take a little bit of that.
• 38:15
  Dom Hind: Yeah, okay.
• 38:15
  Dom Hind: Uh yes.
• 38:16
  Dom Hind: Uh, you need to hit rock bottom to reinvent your life.
• 38:22
  Shannah Kennedy: Disagree.
• 38:22
  Shannah Kennedy: That's false.
• 38:23
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 38:23
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 38:24
  Shannah Kennedy: I think we can reinvent every 12 weeks, every season, like nature.
• 38:28
  Shannah Kennedy: And I love, I really love taking nature into account when we're thinking about ourselves and how transitions are slow, but seasonal.
• 38:39
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 38:40
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 38:40
  Dom Hind: It is it's a great way to think about it.
• 38:43
  Dom Hind: Saying no makes you selfish.
• 38:48
  Shannah Kennedy: No, saying no makes you um self-empowered.
• 38:52
  Shannah Kennedy: Okay, good.
• 38:53
  Shannah Kennedy: I like that.
• 38:54
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 38:54
  Dom Hind: Good reframing.
• 38:55
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:55
  Dom Hind: Self-care is not selfish.
• 38:57
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 38:59
  Dom Hind: Midlife is too too late to start over.
• 39:03
  Shannah Kennedy: I think we're just beginning.
• 39:04
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 39:04
  Shannah Kennedy: You know, I it's funny.
• 39:06
  Shannah Kennedy: I said to someone the other day, I feel like, you know, I've written eight books.
• 39:12
  Shannah Kennedy: I've taken women walking around the world, I've raised my kids.
• 39:15
  Shannah Kennedy: That was the runway.
• 39:17
  Shannah Kennedy: And I'm about to do my best work.
• 39:19
  Shannah Kennedy: It actually feels like that's bubbling inside me.
• 39:22
  Shannah Kennedy: That this was all like the pre-run, the warm-up.
• 39:25
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 39:25
  Shannah Kennedy: The best stuff's coming.
• 39:26
  Shannah Kennedy: So yeah, no, I think midlife is it's incredible.
• 39:30
  Dom Hind: Yeah, I do too.
• 39:31
  Dom Hind: Um, if you're not busy, you're falling behind.
• 39:37
  Shannah Kennedy: That's that's a wonderful society sort of word that we're addicted to, busy.
• 39:42
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 39:43
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, I think slow and steady rins the waste, and we need to pace ourselves, and we'll do great things.
• 39:50
  Shannah Kennedy: Because just because you've ticked more off your list, it doesn't matter.
• 39:54
  Shannah Kennedy: No one cares.
• 39:54
  Shannah Kennedy: No one cares.
• 39:56
  Dom Hind: What do you what do you think?
• 39:57
  Dom Hind: Because whenever I uh say to anyone, how is your Weekend or busy.
• 40:01
  Dom Hind: Like, I don't care.
• 40:02
  Dom Hind: Like, everyone's busy.
• 40:04
  Dom Hind: Like, what is a better response than saying terrific?
• 40:06
  Dom Hind: Yeah, terrific.
• 40:07
  Dom Hind: I had a great time.
• 40:09
  Shannah Kennedy: You're in charge of your diary and booked all of those things in, correct?
• 40:12
  Shannah Kennedy: So you're the creator of your life, you're the creator of your list.
• 40:17
  Shannah Kennedy: So could you find a new word for describing how you have created your life?
• 40:22
  Shannah Kennedy: So I always say terrific.
• 40:23
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 40:24
  Shannah Kennedy: That's terrific.
• 40:25
  Shannah Kennedy: It was great.
• 40:25
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 40:26
  Shannah Kennedy: Because I chose that.
• 40:28
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 40:28
  Shannah Kennedy: I booked that in.
• 40:30
  Shannah Kennedy: I said yes to that.
• 40:31
  Shannah Kennedy: So when you say busy, you just told your whole body that it's exhausted.
• 40:36
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 40:36
  Shannah Kennedy: Okay.
• 40:37
  Shannah Kennedy: So be careful what you train the brain with.
• 40:39
  Shannah Kennedy: So whatever words that we're saying has a direct impact into your energy and your health.
• 40:45
  Shannah Kennedy: So I'm very protective of that.
• 40:48
  Shannah Kennedy: I do not want that in my body.
• 40:50
  Dom Hind: No, busy equals exhausted.
• 40:52
  Shannah Kennedy: And it's it is.
• 40:53
  Shannah Kennedy: So think of all the supplements everybody's taking.
• 40:56
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 40:56
  Shannah Kennedy: And then you say you're busy, you just undid all of those supplements.
• 40:59
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, right.
• 41:00
  Shannah Kennedy: So just be careful of language.
• 41:02
  Shannah Kennedy: Language is really powerful.
• 41:04
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 41:06
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 41:06
  Dom Hind: Planning takes the spontaneity out of life.
• 41:11
  Shannah Kennedy: Well, we know that's not true.
• 41:12
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 41:13
  Dom Hind: It allows it in.
• 41:14
  Dom Hind: I agree with that.
• 41:16
  Dom Hind: I do agree that it I could, and I I think I was probably one of the people that said, what?
• 41:21
  Dom Hind: I'm not going to write down my 10, 20 year plan, but it does because you can actually go, okay, when are the kids going to be in their year 10, year 11, 12?
• 41:32
  Dom Hind: Okay, can't do big trips on those in those years, or if I do need to be at this times, when are they going to stop wanting to come on holiday?
• 41:40
  Dom Hind: And it does give you that structure of what you can do and what you can plan for.
• 41:47
  Shannah Kennedy: So imagine if you didn't have a plan.
• 41:49
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 41:50
  Shannah Kennedy: And you're driving along.
• 41:51
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 41:51
  Shannah Kennedy: And you just want to stop wherever you feel like.
• 41:54
  Shannah Kennedy: In the long term, you wouldn't be going anywhere.
• 41:58
  Shannah Kennedy: You wouldn't get anywhere.
• 42:00
  Shannah Kennedy: So we sort of need a bit of a plan for the brain, a bit of a structure, because the brain needs a roadmap.
• 42:06
  Shannah Kennedy: And once we've got our plan plotted out in the GPS in the car, you can relax and drive.
• 42:11
  Shannah Kennedy: You're relaxed.
• 42:12
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 42:12
  Shannah Kennedy: Because you're not thinking about where to turn.
• 42:14
  Shannah Kennedy: It's going to tell you.
• 42:16
  Shannah Kennedy: So if you're relaxed, you're going to notice the scenery and you're going to notice that great donut shop over there.
• 42:21
  Shannah Kennedy: And you're going to stop.
• 42:22
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 42:22
  Shannah Kennedy: And be spontaneous because you're not worried about the rest moving forward.
• 42:28
  Shannah Kennedy: So people live with an enormous amount of underlying worry.
• 42:32
  Shannah Kennedy: Am I going to have enough money to retire on?
• 42:36
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 42:37
  Shannah Kennedy: What's going to happen to my health?
• 42:38
  Shannah Kennedy: When am I starting that diet?
• 42:40
  Shannah Kennedy: Because if I'm 60 and I'm still carrying lots of weight or I'm not fit, it's not going to be great.
• 42:44
  Shannah Kennedy: But I haven't got a plan, so I live in worry.
• 42:47
  Shannah Kennedy: So when we have the plan, we can be spontaneous.
• 42:50
  Shannah Kennedy: And you know, our radars out there looking for things to add to our plan.
• 42:54
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 42:55
  Shannah Kennedy: So it becomes really exciting.
• 42:57
  Dom Hind: Yeah, okay, good.
• 42:57
  Dom Hind: I like that.
• 42:58
  Dom Hind: Your worth is tied to how much you do.
• 43:03
  Shannah Kennedy: You know, I think the worth is tied on how you impact others.
• 43:08
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 43:08
  Shannah Kennedy: You know, even the barista.
• 43:10
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 43:11
  Shannah Kennedy: You know, you might smile at the barista and say, I always say thank you.
• 43:15
  Shannah Kennedy: I love, I love your coffee.
• 43:17
  Shannah Kennedy: I love how you make my coffee.
• 43:19
  Shannah Kennedy: And it's like I'm the first person that's spoken to them for a week.
• 43:23
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 43:24
  Shannah Kennedy: Because I just see disgruntled people who are tired, angry, hurry up with my coffee.
• 43:29
  Shannah Kennedy: Coffee.
• 43:30
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm busy.
• 43:30
  Shannah Kennedy: I'm and I just take a moment to say thank you.
• 43:34
  Shannah Kennedy: And that's when we talked about goals, living a life of gratitude.
• 43:38
  Shannah Kennedy: It's just being kind.
• 43:39
  Shannah Kennedy: It's maybe doing some random acts of kindness and those kinds of things is better than being busy.
• 43:46
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 43:46
  Shannah Kennedy: Because it's soulful and you have to lie down with yourself every night.
• 43:50
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 43:50
  Shannah Kennedy: I I agree.
• 43:52
  Shannah Kennedy: I think that's a good thing.
• 43:54
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 43:54
  Dom Hind: So the last question.
• 43:58
  Dom Hind: Um, try this before you're 50.
• 44:00
  Dom Hind: So last time you came on, yeah, your uh thing was to create a life plan, but also to try something and push yourself a little bit harder.
• 44:09
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 44:10
  Dom Hind: Define the values, get clear on what you actually want, and start saying no to the things that drain us, which I I just I work on that every day.
• 44:22
  Dom Hind: I try to work on that every day.
• 44:24
  Dom Hind: Um what do you think, now that you're back here in person for the second time, what do you think a try this before I'm 50 challenge should be?
• 44:36
  Shannah Kennedy: I think stillness, because I think it's the one thing that's missing.
• 44:40
  Shannah Kennedy: And it's causing autoimmune issues for people, cancer in people, disease in people, it's all gotten very fast.
• 44:49
  Shannah Kennedy: Um everything's at our fingertips now, except for stillness.
• 44:54
  Shannah Kennedy: And the minute that anyone is still, they reach over their phone.
• 44:58
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, absolutely.
• 45:00
  Shannah Kennedy: So I've been challenging myself to be like the dog a bit and just sit still.
• 45:05
  Shannah Kennedy: And maybe just look at the garden or notice the plant, or I think if we're a little bit still occasionally, we're going to make much better choices and plan better things for ourselves because we're not going to react.
• 45:19
  Shannah Kennedy: We're going to sit there, get out of the head, into the belly, through the breath.
• 45:23
  Shannah Kennedy: What does it feel like in my gut to commit to this?
• 45:27
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 45:28
  Shannah Kennedy: In my belly.
• 45:29
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 45:29
  Dom Hind: But I think it's it's interesting.
• 45:32
  Dom Hind: The the stillness for people, like even for me, I know that uh being still can be uncomfortable at times because it makes me start thinking.
• 45:46
  Dom Hind: And you know, at times I would much prefer to have a hundred things on my to-do list than to sit in the stillness.
• 45:55
  Shannah Kennedy: It's very uncomfortable.
• 45:56
  Dom Hind: It's very uncomfortable being still.
• 45:58
  Shannah Kennedy: So Louise Hay, you know, beautiful Louise Hay, who started Hay House Publishing at 60, by the way.
• 46:04
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 46:04
  Shannah Kennedy: Right.
• 46:05
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, she said you're growth only happens when you're uncomfortable.
• 46:10
  Shannah Kennedy: So get comfortable with being uncomfortable.
• 46:12
  Shannah Kennedy: So when I sit still and it's really uncomfortable, yes, I challenge myself for another minute to sit in the uncomfortable and everything starts settling.
• 46:21
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 46:21
  Shannah Kennedy: It's really strange.
• 46:23
  Shannah Kennedy: And that's where the gold is, and that's where I make better decisions.
• 46:29
  Dom Hind: I know, I I do, yes, it is something that I need to start doing.
• 46:33
  Dom Hind: And I mean, even with the meditation, it is it's different than being still.
• 46:39
  Shannah Kennedy: No, being still is nothing to do.
• 46:42
  Shannah Kennedy: You might be in the cafe instead of standing in the queue with your phone swiping, you could be just being still.
• 46:51
  Shannah Kennedy: And you could just be absorbing the world and noticing what's around you.
• 46:55
  Shannah Kennedy: And I actually find that more people come and talk to you and want to be near you when you're calm and you're confident and you're grounded than when you're hyped up.
• 47:05
  Shannah Kennedy: Being a crazy overachiever.
• 47:07
  Shannah Kennedy: And I'm addicted to achieving, as you know.
• 47:10
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:10
  Shannah Kennedy: I achieve a lot in my days and in my months, but it's doing it like Roger Federer.
• 47:18
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 47:20
  Shannah Kennedy: Calm pace, confident pace, just being in control of myself.
• 47:25
  Shannah Kennedy: It's a nice place to be.
• 47:27
  Shannah Kennedy: It's actually a really nice place to live inside.
• 47:30
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 47:30
  Shannah Kennedy: And when we get out of the head and into the belly, the only way we can do that is through the lung.
• 47:36
  Shannah Kennedy: The lung opens the door and says, I've been waiting for you.
• 47:39
  Shannah Kennedy: Take a breath, please.
• 47:41
  Shannah Kennedy: Um, that's why I gave you the sticky notes.
• 47:43
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:44
  Shannah Kennedy: You know, even three beautiful breaths, beautiful sticky notes.
• 47:49
  Dom Hind: Beautiful sticky notes that say stop one minute reset, stop and pause, take three breaths, open your awareness, proceed with calm clarity, breathe.
• 48:00
  Shannah Kennedy: There's Gatorade stations.
• 48:01
  Shannah Kennedy: So I've got them in my car.
• 48:04
  Shannah Kennedy: I've got reminders, visual reminders, because we need signposts.
• 48:08
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, we do.
• 48:08
  Shannah Kennedy: Without the signposts, we keep driving past everything all the time.
• 48:12
  Shannah Kennedy: So, yeah, it's been a really interesting year this year for me of change.
• 48:17
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 48:18
  Shannah Kennedy: But really soulful and exciting.
• 48:22
  Dom Hind: That's good.
• 48:22
  Dom Hind: Um, is there anything that we didn't cover that you wanted to cover?
• 48:29
  Shannah Kennedy: I think that rather than being afraid of the 50s, lean in.
• 48:34
  Shannah Kennedy: It's beautiful, it's deep, it's soulful, it's coming home to self, it's a little bit messy.
• 48:41
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 48:42
  Shannah Kennedy: And it's okay because it's actually in that time when you sit still that you come home to self.
• 48:48
  Shannah Kennedy: I think it is a remarkable time of life that nobody tells you about.
• 48:54
  Dom Hind: Okay.
• 48:54
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 48:55
  Dom Hind: I know, and and they're only just starting to talk about it.
• 48:58
  Shannah Kennedy: And a lot of them are, you know, it's going to be terrible.
• 49:01
  Shannah Kennedy: It's not.
• 49:02
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 49:02
  Shannah Kennedy: It's not if you do some of the pre-work, you know, if you do a bit of a warm-up and you do a bit of research for yourself and you do a bit of a plan of how you want to feel during those transitions and what your promise is to yourself.
• 49:15
  Shannah Kennedy: It's a magnificent time of life.
• 49:19
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 49:19
  Dom Hind: I think, yes, I think it is.
• 49:21
  Dom Hind: But you do, you have to take the time.
• 49:23
  Dom Hind: You have to take the time.
• 49:24
  Dom Hind: You have to take the time.
• 49:25
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 49:26
  Shannah Kennedy: If you don't, you will be walloped.
• 49:28
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 49:28
  Dom Hind: Yes.
• 49:29
  Shannah Kennedy: And forgotten.
• 49:30
  Shannah Kennedy: And forgotten.
• 49:31
  Shannah Kennedy: And walloped.
• 49:31
  Shannah Kennedy: And it might be really messy.
• 49:33
  Shannah Kennedy: So yeah, take your time, do the thinking, do the stillness.
• 49:37
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 49:38
  Shannah Kennedy: Take a day off occasionally just to be unbelievably uncomfortable.
• 49:42
  Shannah Kennedy: And go and sit on your chair at the beach or whatever.
• 49:46
  Dom Hind: And I do think, yeah, don't have your phone.
• 49:48
  Dom Hind: Just don't have your phone.
• 49:49
  Dom Hind: My phone.
• 49:50
  Dom Hind: Have a notepad, pencil.
• 49:53
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 49:53
  Shannah Kennedy: And just be.
• 49:54
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 49:55
  Shannah Kennedy: It's unbelievable what will pour out of you if you give yourself space, safe space.
• 50:00
  Shannah Kennedy: I can already feel the sun.
• 50:02
  Dom Hind: No.
• 50:03
  Dom Hind: Thank you.
• 50:04
  Dom Hind: Thank you again.
• 50:05
  Dom Hind: Thank you for being here in person.
• 50:07
  Dom Hind: Um, lovely to see you.
• 50:10
  Shannah Kennedy: We could talk for hours.
• 50:11
  Shannah Kennedy: You know that.
• 50:12
  Shannah Kennedy: I know, I know.
• 50:12
  Shannah Kennedy: Hours and hours.
• 50:14
  Shannah Kennedy: But I think for the listeners, it is an exciting time.
• 50:18
  Shannah Kennedy: You know, there's so much to learn.
• 50:20
  Shannah Kennedy: We we've got our brain fog and all those things going on, but we do take in a lot.
• 50:26
  Shannah Kennedy: And I think be very careful who your role models are and and and how you want to show up in the future.
• 50:33
  Dom Hind: And who you spend the time with as well.
• 50:35
  Shannah Kennedy: I think big one.
• 50:36
  Shannah Kennedy: It's a good time for pruning.
• 50:38
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 50:38
  Dom Hind: Yeah.
• 50:39
  Dom Hind: Tomato and look after the soil.
• 50:41
  Dom Hind: And look after the soil.
• 50:42
  Dom Hind: Um, so thank you for coming back and reminding us that midlife isn't a crisis and that it is a choice, and a choice that we can make an amazing next few decades.
• 50:56
  Dom Hind: Um, I do love thinking about the future self, and I always will make a decision based on my future self.
• 51:04
  Dom Hind: It's why I stopped running because my future self would just not like it.
• 51:08
  Dom Hind: No, the joints, just not at all.
• 51:11
  Dom Hind: Exactly.
• 51:11
  Dom Hind: Um, and it was a powerful reminder that clarity isn't a luxury, it's a tool.
• 51:17
  Dom Hind: Same with taking the time and the space that you do actually need.
• 51:21
  Shannah Kennedy: And clarity only comes in stillness.
• 51:24
  Dom Hind: Clarity only comes in still message.
• 51:26
  Dom Hind: Okay, good.
• 51:27
  Dom Hind: Uh, and if it's one, if it it is one thing that we can close the year out on, it's making sure that we do make that time for ourselves and sit and be still.
• 51:38
  Dom Hind: So even in the supermarket car park.
• 51:41
  Shannah Kennedy: Like just stop.
• 51:42
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah.
• 51:42
  Shannah Kennedy: Just sometimes my kids say, they used to say, Mum, you're so long at the supermarket.
• 51:48
  Shannah Kennedy: I say it's so busy.
• 51:51
  Shannah Kennedy: It's so busy down there, but it wasn't.
• 51:53
  Shannah Kennedy: I spent 20 minutes in my car just being still.
• 51:57
  Shannah Kennedy: Oh, taking a breath, you know, just letting my body catch up to my crazy brain.
• 52:03
  Shannah Kennedy: Yes.
• 52:03
  Shannah Kennedy: It's it's my stolen secret moments.
• 52:06
  Dom Hind: They're beautiful.
• 52:07
  Dom Hind: And I I even when I went to pick up my kids from school, I can always remember you saying, take the moments before you pick them up to settle yourself.
• 52:19
  Dom Hind: Because as soon as they get in the car, it's going to be crazy.
• 52:22
  Dom Hind: It's crazy, too.
• 52:22
  Dom Hind: It's crazy.
• 52:23
  Dom Hind: So you need, I used to steal, well, I still do.
• 52:27
  Dom Hind: I think I did it three weeks ago, that I stole the moments when just before I picked them up, I had 10 minutes and I was like, that's it.
• 52:34
  Dom Hind: I'm just gonna do I did a 10-minute meditation, but I thought great.
• 52:38
  Dom Hind: That's yeah, good.
• 52:40
  Shannah Kennedy: And then when the kids get in the car, don't ask them any questions.
• 52:43
  Shannah Kennedy: No, wait.
• 52:45
  Shannah Kennedy: Yeah, let them have some stillness, settle into the car, drive off.
• 52:49
  Shannah Kennedy: Hi, kids.
• 52:50
  Shannah Kennedy: 10 minutes later I'll say, How's your day?
• 52:52
  Dom Hind: Yeah, I think that is a big one too.
• 52:54
  Dom Hind: It's too much for them.
• 52:55
  Dom Hind: They don't well, you're the safe space, and then they're in there and they don't really want to talk to you right away.
• 53:01
  Shannah Kennedy: No, they don't want 25 questions when they've just survived the school playground.
• 53:05
  Shannah Kennedy: Like, just give people space and teach them stillness.
• 53:10
  Dom Hind: Yeah, yeah.
• 53:11
  Dom Hind: Amazing.
• 53:11
  Dom Hind: It is a good skill to have to have.
• 53:14
  Dom Hind: Okay, so as we close out 2025 and the snake, we've shed we're shedding.
• 53:22
  Dom Hind: We've shed it this year into the year of the horse.
• 53:25
  Dom Hind: Um, if you do want to learn more about Shanna's work and the books and the amazing things that she's doing, all the links will be in the show notes.
• 53:36
  Dom Hind: Uh, if you've enjoyed this episode, hit subscribe, share it with your friends, and just take a moment to be still and even just have a day to yourself.
• 53:47
  Dom Hind: Just for you.
• 53:48
  Dom Hind: No one else.
• 53:48
  Dom Hind: No one else.
• 53:49
  Dom Hind: Just for you.
• 53:51
  Dom Hind: Because f*ck, I'm nearly 50, and isn't it amazing?