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Summer Break: Still Comfy? A League of Their Own · To All the Men I've Tolerated Before

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  Speaker 1: All right, we are live players. Let's play ball. Hi everyone,
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  Speaker 1: this is still comfy with and Jewels. I'm your host
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  Speaker 1: of the evening. I'm nabling Katona from to all the
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  Speaker 1: men I've tolerated before, and we will be covering a
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  Speaker 1: league of their own. Because over on Jules's Instagram for
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  Speaker 1: pop culture makes me jealous. We did the show, the
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  Speaker 1: Amazon Prime show Jewles. Introduce yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Hello friends, I'm Julia Washington, your host of pop culture
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  Speaker 2: makes me jealous before we analyze pop culture through the
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  Speaker 2: lens of race or gender and sometimes both, my friends
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  Speaker 2: call me Jewles. You may not be a friend yet.
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  Speaker 1: You're either a friend or you're not a friend. See,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna tell you my other name, so
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  Speaker 1: you just have to guess on what you're allowed to
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  Speaker 1: call me. Why are you already threatening our audience?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's mean girl's day. Like girls.
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  Speaker 2: I'm channeling my inner Regina George. I don't have an
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  Speaker 2: inner Regina George, but I could try.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm Gretchen, Gretchen Wieners. I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: very sure. I'm no, I'm not I've I've never been them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Regina, but like in a not mean way.
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  Speaker 2: Then you're not Regina?
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  Speaker 1: Then who am I? Because I'm usually the alpha. Like
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  Speaker 1: there's a whole number in the musical about being the
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  Speaker 1: alpha predator, apex predator, and that's who I am. I'm
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  Speaker 1: the apex predator. Everyone's just not mean predatory. But everyone
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  Speaker 1: takes my lead.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's confusing. I guess I'm not any of them. We
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  Speaker 1: should have watched it to see if I would.
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  Speaker 2: Have who you identify? Are there quizzes on like BuzzFeed?
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  Speaker 1: Sure, a BuzzFeed until they start taking my One Tree
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  Speaker 1: Hill notes and paying me for them. Need to email
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  Speaker 1: them and be like, do you want my stream of
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  Speaker 1: conscious thoughts about One Tree Hill? All right, Well, if.
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  Speaker 2: There's a mean girl quiz, go ahead. Sorry, I just
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  Speaker 2: realized that I didn't write.
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  Speaker 1: Down any facts about a League of their Own? So
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  Speaker 1: let me pull it. What kind of facts?
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  Speaker 2: Like the don we usually do?
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  Speaker 1: The like near them came out in the summer. Yep
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  Speaker 1: here it is. A League of their Own is a
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  Speaker 1: movie that came out in nineteen ninety two. It is
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  Speaker 1: two hours and eight minutes long, and if you remember
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  Speaker 1: anything that means it doesn't meet Now's rule of movies
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be longer than ninety minutes. Against all odds, Madonna
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  Speaker 1: gets to be on the poster even though she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have that many lines.
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  Speaker 2: She was a big draw.
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  Speaker 1: Though she was a big draw. Two sisters joined the
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  Speaker 1: first female professional baseball league and struggle to help it
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  Speaker 1: succeed amid their own rivalry. Madonna is doing the most
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  Speaker 1: in this movie in all of the right ways.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think that was the intention of her character.
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  Speaker 1: Away. I'm just saying that I missed it in the
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  Speaker 1: television show because in the television show there was no
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  Speaker 1: Madonna asque character to do it all and do it
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  Speaker 1: all in all the ways and go all the way.
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  Speaker 2: All the way.
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  Speaker 1: May Yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Did love it. I do love this movie so much.
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  Speaker 2: It's not healthy.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great movie. And do you know what I
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  Speaker 1: realized this first or this go around of watching it.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, so I thought that after like Kit pushes
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  Speaker 1: Dottie and Dottie loses for the peaches or whatever, that
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  Speaker 1: Kit and Dottie have no contact, oh until they like
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  Speaker 1: look at each other at the like Old Ladies Museum. Later, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: fifty years later, at the Baseball Hall of Fame, and
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  Speaker 1: then I realized. I was like, no, they have her daughter, clearly,
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  Speaker 1: says Anti Kit. They've clearly fucking carried on a relationship
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  Speaker 1: for the entire lives. Like I thought their rivalry went
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  Speaker 1: so deep that they were like and now we'll never
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  Speaker 1: speak again. No, not at all. No.
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  Speaker 2: I love that moment after the fact because I think
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  Speaker 2: it's so crucial to the story because Kit finally gets
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  Speaker 2: her moment. Dottie's you know, acknowledging like you you're not
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  Speaker 2: she's not. It's not like she's saying she's the better player,
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  Speaker 2: but she's acknowledging like good for you, Kit, like I'm
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  Speaker 2: proud of you. And they have this like really sweet
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  Speaker 2: sisterly moment.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse as you know, everything about Dotty throwing the game
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  Speaker 1: pisses me off because I am a firm believer that
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  Speaker 1: if you are talented, you are allowed to be talented,
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  Speaker 1: no matter how much it makes other people feel. And
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  Speaker 1: that's a huge theme in this movie, where you know,
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  Speaker 1: Geena Davis is naturally gorgeous Gena Davis, and I also
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  Speaker 1: believe that people have the right to be pretty. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm pro pretty people that have the
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  Speaker 1: right to be ready. Yeah, and then like and then
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  Speaker 1: she's good at baseball and people.
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  Speaker 2: Then it turns out the actress Gena Davis is also
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  Speaker 2: naturally good at baseball because when they're doing yeah, because
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  Speaker 2: when they were doing like the whole training and getting
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  Speaker 2: ready for it, because you know, they actually played baseball
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: in this movie, one of the trainers told her, like,
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  Speaker 2: you're naturally athletic.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Gina, congratulations. Also, thank god there was
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  Speaker 1: no in this movie. I hate CGI well, and I think.
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  Speaker 2: When it comes to like certain types of CGI, it's
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't bother me. But when it comes to a
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  Speaker 2: sports movie, like especially if you watch that sport on
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  Speaker 2: the regular, you can tell when it's not what's not
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: when it's not happening, like they're like the way the
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  Speaker 2: baseballs were thrown in the Prime series. You know, that
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  Speaker 2: was my number one complaint because that's not how it
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  Speaker 2: looks when you play baseball. It's not a realistic visual.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's like CGI is the worst when
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  Speaker 1: there's like no reason for it and you know that
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: things aren't supposed to be over the top and like
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: perfectly fast in a straight line, and you're like, why
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  Speaker 1: is this the choice that we made?
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  Speaker 2: Nobody throws like that.
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  Speaker 1: We could have tapped them how to throw balls, or
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  Speaker 1: we could have dubbed them, like why wouldn't you just
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  Speaker 1: paid a stunt person to do that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Irritating, Yeah, but you know, I believe that Geena Davis
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  Speaker 1: has the right to be pretty and talented, and so
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  Speaker 1: Kit gets on my I mean, my second note after
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  Speaker 1: I wrote like, oh, I guess they did talk was
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  Speaker 1: oh my god. I don't know if even modern age
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  Speaker 1: grown nadly is going to be able to get over Kit.
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  Speaker 1: She just has the shittiest face the entire movie.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I understand where Kit's coming from. Like, when
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  Speaker 2: you have your parents basically saying to you your entire life,
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  Speaker 2: why aren't you, like Dottie, be quiet. You're annoying, you're obnoxious,
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  Speaker 2: You're taking up space and you shouldn't be. That's gonna
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  Speaker 2: affect your psyche. That's gonna put you in a position
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  Speaker 2: where you're not really like where you Instead of like
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  Speaker 2: understanding what it is or realizing that it's your parents
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  Speaker 2: not you, You're gonna start placing that blame on the
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  Speaker 2: person who is glorified all the time, right, like like
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: when she says to Dottie like you're always ruining, you're
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  Speaker 2: getting in my way, Like I knew I was getting
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  Speaker 2: too good, and this is all like You're the reason
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  Speaker 2: this isn't working because you think I'm getting too good.
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  Speaker 2: Like in that moment, I was like, Oh, you don't
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  Speaker 2: understand because you've never been allowed to experience a full
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  Speaker 2: range of emotions. You don't understand that it has nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with Dottie and you've in the external elements.
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  Speaker 2: You've never been allowed to be away from the elements
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  Speaker 2: that say Dottie's the best. So you can grow into
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  Speaker 2: who you want, who you are in the strengths that
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  Speaker 2: you have.
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  Speaker 1: Here. First off, I didn't that's from Brendan Fraser, from.
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  Speaker 2: George George Georgia of the Drone.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, everyone can still tell me their favorite Brendan
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  Speaker 1: Frasier moment. It's really hard to put to type now
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  Speaker 1: where I have to keep my microphone. Oh well, get
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  Speaker 1: me go because this is so awkward.
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  Speaker 2: You can live people, Oh friends, if you're watching us live,
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  Speaker 2: we don't know unless you comment, So can you let
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  Speaker 2: us know that you're here. We would love to know
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  Speaker 2: and to chat with you and to give you a
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  Speaker 2: shout out.
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  Speaker 1: Even Also, YouTube isn't hellos who watches the replays, There's
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  Speaker 1: like no way to thank you publicly. So if you
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  Speaker 1: watch the replays, also drop a comment, like I answer
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: the comments. What else was I going to say? Oh? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. Kids, just like she's shitty,
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: and she's shitty for a reason. But it still makes
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  Speaker 1: my skin crawl because I'm like, stop it, kit, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: they can't hear you, hi Instagram. Look, I can't die.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just make our faces for Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: Keep talking mine to YouTube to hear what Natalie has
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  Speaker 2: to say.
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  Speaker 1: My first, my first point of misogyny. Can we talk
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: about how like Marla wasn't like I'm a Marla Hooch.
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  Speaker 1: Justice for Marla Hooch. She was not in any way
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  Speaker 1: scary ugly.
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  Speaker 2: No, she wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: She was like the way that people reacted, yeah to
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  Speaker 1: Marla's face, and I'm like, love it, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta go, we gotta go.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: You ain't taken her because she ain't pretty, And I
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: was like, that is a solid move, ladies. They set
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: down their bags and just like nope, fu.
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  Speaker 1: No, we're not going without a word.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: Player, We're not leaving.
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  Speaker 1: Without her without a word. They didn't just looked at
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: him and he knew. But like, and it wasn't even
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: the one joke. They make that joke four or five times,
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  Speaker 1: Like they don't let her show on camera. She's like
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: all the way far back, yeah, just waving.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's Marla. Do we even know if it's
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  Speaker 2: really hurt?
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  Speaker 1: So far away, it's so far away. I feel bad
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  Speaker 1: for Marla Well and her dad.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: You know. I know my daughter isn't it and as
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  Speaker 2: pretty as these girls, but her mama died when she
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: was whatever, and I raised her like a boy and yeah,
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: and I was just like, oh, honey, Like it's okay
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  Speaker 2: that you don't know how to be fem for your daughter,
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  Speaker 2: Like that's not who you are. It's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Broke my heart or broke my heart. Yeah, Like I
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, sir, no, you probably loved her the
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: best and out of any of these daddies, you probably
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  Speaker 1: did the best job.
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: So and and proof positive in the scene when they're
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: at the train station leaving and she's I mean, I like,
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  Speaker 2: that's a moment where I cry because she's like, who's
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: gonna take care of you? I don't need to goad
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: and he's like, we've literally been working for this, like
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  Speaker 2: you have to. It's gonna be fine. And I just
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  Speaker 2: loved that moment.
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  Speaker 1: It was so beautiful, it was so cute, the cutess.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, he did the thing. He's being so great.
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  Speaker 1: So just as for Marla, who, by the way, is
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: technically the only one that we know gets laid after
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: you guys are a little karaoke.
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean we know that Madonna gets laid, but
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: Marla's the one who finds love. And I love that twist.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: It's not a twist, but I love that turn for her.
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  Speaker 2: Because of all the women and everyone's like, oh, they're
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: so beautiful in their dollies and like dirt in the
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: skirt and show your whatever, Marla's the one that finds love.
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  Speaker 2: That makes me so happy.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: She's so sweet. I thought between the charm classes that
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: in the movie it was more in a this will
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: be a little blip and it'll highlight that we made
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: them take charm classes and that Marla cannot walk. And
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: then I think the show tried to make more of
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  Speaker 1: a statement about it. But when it comes to the show.
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  Speaker 1: In the movie, that's the only time that the show
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  Speaker 1: made more of a statement than the movie, because the
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  Speaker 1: entire time, I'm like, this is where the show was
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: supposed to make a statement and they just skipped it.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: This is where the show was supposed to make a
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: statement and they just skipped it.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you mean in the movie.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: This is where's in the movie. I have a thought
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: all written down. Let me look, because when she's like.
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  Speaker 2: Nice, very nice, lovely and show them she gets to
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: mar and then the assistants like, what do you recommend
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of night games? Yeah, so terrible funny line,
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  Speaker 2: but also shitty, also shitty.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: The Shirley Baker where she can't read her own name
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  Speaker 1: on the list, and that gorgeous Helen woman comes over, and.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: That's the sister from Matt about you.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: I know she's gorgeous in this movie. I love her.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: I have her name writ in down. Everyone was so
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: hot in this movie, except for Tom Hanks. Well, he's
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: supposed to be playing a washed up drunk, as you know.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: I loved I love the Tom Hanks character. Yeah, I
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: desperately missed him in the show. Yeah, but this movie
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: has so much heart in it that they tried to
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: make really dramatic in the show and it just fell
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: and I was like, you took the heart out of
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: my movie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're not wrong, because the first time I
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: get emotional is within the first twenty you know, it's
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: at that Marla Hoot scene, which is what fifteen minutes
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: into the movie, and then you have these very emotional
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: moments throughout the rest of the film that when I
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: was twelve didn't necessarily like resonate the same because you're
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: still hopeful life, you know, hasn't ruined you yet, you
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: don't know the realities of misogyny quite fully. But every
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: time now I can't not cry or get emotional watching
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: it because it's so beautiful with all the ways that
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: they stand together step up for each other, the way
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: that like Jimmy Dugan even comes around towards the end
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: of the film, he's just like he's one hunt and
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: you know he frames it with the whole like, let's
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: do this. I get a bonus when we get in
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: the world series. But he's also actually emotionally invested, like
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: the money isn't the motivator, it's just a nice little perk.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: There's so much love between the women in this movie
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  Speaker 1: that they forgot to do in the show, even though
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: they wanted them to all be in love with one another.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, right right, there's like no girl win
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: moments in the show. There's no like, I see you struggling.
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  Speaker 1: I myself am a woman as well, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: step in to stop your struggling.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder too if that's because in the nineties we
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: were doing there was a lot of that. In the
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: nineties with female media and television, you know, there's just
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of like and you know, even in
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: the I don't know, there was a little bit more
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: of a hoo rah kind of situation. I feel like
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: when I look back and reflect on earlier late eighties
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: early nineties television, where we do sort of see more
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: of a bond. We're going to stick together because that's
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: the strength of numbers. This is the only way we're
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: going to survive. Whereas now, even though we talk about, well,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: we need to band together, it still feels very much
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: like every man for himself.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know for for everything that Abby
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Jacobson kept screaming at us that she was trying to
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  Speaker 1: deliver with the show. I'm like, it's like, you didn't
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  Speaker 1: even watch the movie. Geena Davis taught you how to
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: do this, and you just went mmmm mmmm. They don't
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: even help Loupita learn English and they don't let her
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: go to the Wizard of Oz. I'm still mad.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did think it was kind of a
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: nice I didn't. I forgot that Tom Hanks when the
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: bus breaks down and she's like, mister Dugan, mister Dougans,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: and he's like, what is it, baby mama, And then
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: they pull away and they scream and they're like how,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: how what's happening, Toda, And he's like, oh, by the way,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I love doing the Wizard of Oz, And I was like, oh, yeah,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I forgot he said that. So I do appreciate that
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: they went and saw the Wizard of Oz in the series,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: because I felt like that was a cute, like.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Instead of assaulting someone in the name of the Wizard.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Of Yeah, which she kind of does look like the
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: lady from She looks exactly like that actress. She looks
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: exactly like that actress, and so it's almost like, yeah,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: that's an insult, but not really really.
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  Speaker 1: The movie also pissed me off about the show about
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: something else. So when Nick Offerman steps down and they
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: just allow Abby Jacobson to coach, I was like, there's
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: no way. Like watching this movie, I realized, I was like,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: there is no way that these men who just want
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to sell candy bars are not going to just bring
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: in another man to tell you all what to do, right.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Like right.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I also think that that character needed to be there.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he also helps because that's their immediate first
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: bond right they come in. They're excited Jimmy Dugan, this
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: famous baseball player, is going to be their coach, but
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: turns out he's not as exciting they thought it would be.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: So that's the first thing they initially bond over is like, okay,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: so our coach is trash. So then that gives Gena
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Davis the opportunity to take the lead and be like,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: here's what we're doing, and so they kind of, you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: they create that connection right away before the first game,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: and they don't do that in the series. It takes
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: several episodes for the team to finally find their footing,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: which in baseball isn't always true because you have spring training.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Not that these girls have spring training. They're just kind
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: of thrown into it. But you do have opportunities to
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: like develop a relationship with your teammates, and we don't
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: get any of that. Like they should have bonded. Well,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say should have. I don't want
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to shoot all over somebody else's work. I think it
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: was a missed opportunity to allow for the team to
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: bond over Offerman you know, Nick Offermann character not being involved.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Right, and instead he acted kind of like a foil
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to tear them all apart. Yeah, because he like completely
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: wiped out Carson's credibility because she still tried to work
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: with him, which I understand the urge to like still
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: try to work with your authority figure because you're like,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I mean he's the one we've got.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he could make or break your career essentially,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: you don't know, Yeah, And then I I don't know.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: It's just that when I watched the movie, it just
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: really highlighted how there's so much more characterization in this
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: two hour movie to where I truly feel for these people.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And I watched eight episodes of a show and I
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: came out wanting a what's What's the uncle's name in
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the in the A League of their Own you posted
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: about him today.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, oh my gosh, Bertie, Bertie I wanted and the
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: only thing I went was, why aren't tell you getting
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: in an Uncle Bert spin off?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So that after I had put a heart into
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: their role.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the actor who played Bert did a really good job.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Again again, the series is a black show. Like those
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: white girls. I don't know what the fuck those white
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: girls were doing, but the black girls knew what was up.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: They showed up, they did their role, they told the story.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: It was good. And back to your.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Movie comment about how you know in those two hours
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: you had you felt they did a really good job
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: in A League of their Own. I think Penny. I
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: know Penny Marshall directed it. I can't she wrote it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: To excuse me. They did a really good job at
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: establishing very quickly who everybody was and what the relationships were.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: And I think that's so important to do, not just
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: in a film, but also in a television show that
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: you don't know if you're going to get a second series, right,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: excuse me, because then it helps move the story along
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: so much quicker, like we immediately know in the original film,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Dottie and Kit have tension because Dottie's telling Kit what
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: to do. Don't use that bad it's too heavy for you.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Remember this one throws high ones. You know, you don't
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: swing at the high ones. You know, I love the
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: high ones, mule hag. Like, you immediately get a sense
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: of the relationship and that there's going to be tension
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: between them within those first few minutes that does not
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: exist in the show. It's kind of like, Okay, so
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: what's happening which whatever? Again, I don't want to shoot
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: all over somebody else's work with the film. Though, the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: next time you get something that actually like you under
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: fully understand what's happening with these characters is Doris and
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: may douras, look what I can do? May look, look,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: look whatever. And then she's like, how long did it
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: take you to do that? And you know, except for
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the time I spent whatever. So you establish their relationship
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: very quickly just by sort of observing something and you
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: get it like you've got historical context for the relationship
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: because they've talked about they've mentioned, you know something else
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: and yeah, all those little moments that really bring the
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: team and give you what you need to know to
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: fully understand that way, then you can dive quickly into
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: what's going on and what the tension will be. We
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: know the team's gunning for the World series, but how
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: are they going to get there? What's going to happen?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And do you know what anything happened with the backdrop
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: of the war, With the backdrop of the war, do
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you know anything happened with the prime show? I think
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: that they didn't walk the line of mimicking the show
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and adding to the show. Well, so they mimicked that
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: scene between Rosie O'Donnell and Madonna and they kind of
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: had a little quick, quick back and forth, back and forth,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: but then they completely drop that relationship after that moment.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: And the introduction was a little too long because with
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: the Rosie with May and Doris, it's very quick. It's
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: it's a very quick introduction, but you still get a
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: lot in there. With the suitcase scene, it is a
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: very long scene that feels drawn out and could have
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: been you know, cut down a little bit and and
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: tightened up a little bit to get to get the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: same impact and to piggyback on what you're saying, continue
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: that throughout because that's the beauty of the film. They
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: continue those types of snippets with Doris and May throughout
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the entire movie, Like when there's the thread of shutting
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: down the league, May's like, you tell that mister canny
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: guy he can He's not shutting me down. But you
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: have that moment where it's like you see in Doris
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: her feel for May because that's how they met, because
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: she was doing d dancing it Doris's dad's club, and
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: it's like, again a quick snippet of like, here's how
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: we know each other. And then it gets a callback
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: when the when the league's threatening to shut him.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Down, and it gets called back again when Doris's dad
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: comes to the playoffs and he's like, May, it's great
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to see you doing this instead of what you're usually doing.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: And she's like, daddy stop, yeah exactly, so to me
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: like that, so what I'm here boy, you guys stick dinner.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: But another place where I think they really dropped it
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: and they tried to make a statement with the absence
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: of what happened in the movie was with Evelyn. So
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Evelyn has to have that little boy still stand Angel,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: still Angel, and he's the worst health but so Evelyn
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: gets this letter from her husband, and he's like, our
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: kid is the worst. He's annoying, and I'm not raising
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: him just because you want to play baseball, and she's.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Too busy reading the one ads.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's too busy reading the want dads.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: So she just.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Tells a drunk Tom Hanks like, this is how it is.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I have to have my kid on the road with us.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: My husband is ill equipped to raise him. And then
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: in the Prime show they have an Evelyn Foil who,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: instead of like making the statement of which is still
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: very prevalent and true today that oh my goodness, when
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: children are inconvenient just by existing, the woman has to
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: take that on. Instead of making that statement again in
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the show, they handle the stillwell thing by making him
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: an absent child that the new Evelyn has fled from. Yeah,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and I know that the statement is supposed to be
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: this backwards, like, well, she shouldn't have had to bring
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: her children, and it's like, yeah, but the movie made
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: that statement by making you watch her raise a child
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: on the baseball road, right, and telling Jimmy Dougan like,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: my husband's too busy being drunk like you and trying
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: to get a job.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: So still will has to come with me. And the
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: other layer of that is he's a man. We can
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: assume maybe he's not able bodied because he's not working,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: because he's reading the want ads, right, so it is
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: a time of war. We assume your husband is white
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: and he's unemployed during a time when they are recruiting
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: literally everybody, because every able bodied white male is being
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: sent overseas.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: So like, even that's a huge statement.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: M h m hmm. And the fact that he doesn't
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: show up with grown ups still well to the museum
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and they don't him, right, So I think that's what
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the show kept doing. It's like, well, we'll right the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: wrongs of the movie because we've evolved, and we're like,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: we haven't evolved, though there are still hundreds of thousands
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: of women who give up working to pick up the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: slack with their kids.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I actually don't feel like there were wrongs
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: with the film because the center of the story is
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Dottie and Kit, right, So the sisters are the crux
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: of the story, and then the backdrop of that is Okay,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: now they're on a baseball team and Dottie's naturally gifted
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: and Kid's really good too. Because she's had to keep
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: up with Dottie and then you add the layer of
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the war. So like that scene where the ball gets
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: away and there's some black women on the side, and
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I've talked about this on the episode we did on
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: pop Culture, makes me jealous of a league of their own,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: and she picks up the ball and Geena Davis is
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: like right here and like she chucks it, and it
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: gets to what's her face the beauty Queen to show
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: like she's just as Yeah, she's just as talented, like
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: that new Once of these women were left out and
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean they weren't talented. Like to me,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: that was very clear they were left out because they
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: were black, Like that was a message I understood from
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the from childhood and so to see and it still
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: makes me cry. It still makes me get emotional because
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: it's still saying we understand that this is a group
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: of people who were left out of the All American
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Girls Professional Baseball League. Yes, and what I think the
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: series did do okay again Black Story because the because
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: the Max.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Neilson's that they had to writing teams.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because Max and Clans is so fleshed out. Because
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: then you get the backstory of like you know why
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: black women were and you we should you should be
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: interested anyway, I feel like, but again it's like the
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: movie isn't about the peaches. The movie is about Kit
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: and Dottie. Yeah, whereas the prime original is not sure
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: who it's about.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: No at any moment.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Do you know?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, So when it comes to Tom Hanks, oh.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I fucking love Jimmy Dugan, Jimmy.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Dugan has all of the best lines, like any because
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: as I was watching the movie, all I could hear
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: was my dad saying the lines that we love best
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: from Jimmy Dougan, Like you would just be out and
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: about and Dad wouldn't say a Jimmy Dugan. Lie my
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: favorite avoid the clap, Jimmy I read like I wrote down.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, avoid the clap because we know Jimmy
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: probably did it, Like that's the advice he has. And
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: so Jimmy is disgusting in this movie. I mean, he
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: redeems himself kinda at the end, but at the baseline
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: grow he has a lot of growth, but he's still
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: a very disgusting drunk of a human. Even at the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: end when he redeems himself and he decides that he's
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: like on board with Gina Davis wanting to be married
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: or lay baseball or whatever. Disgusting at his core. So
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: then I was like, well, now I'm mad that the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Prime Show was so sparkly. They like took out the
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: grit on the beach's side. Yeah, like they made Nick
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Ouferman mean, but he was like mean once. I was
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: like Jimmy Dugan was disgusting.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And Nick Offerman, bless his heart, but he's hey right right,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Like the way that he like delivers like he's got
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: a very distinct face. Yeah, and so it's like and
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: it's expressive. So when he's delivering lines, it's just kind
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: of like like he you know what I mean. It's
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: like it's just it's interesting seeing him and things. And
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's because I am obsessed with him
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: as Ron Swanson. I don't think it's that. I think
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: because he's also in a couple episodes of Gilmore Girls,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: and he he doesn't do it in Gilmore Girls, but
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: since Parks and rec I'm seeing him consistently be like,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: here's this face I'm making.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I described that, well, does he
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: do it in Making It.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I watched one episode of Making It, so I don't remember.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: It's so quaint. It'll heal what ails you. Oh, it's
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: just so quaint because you know how The British Baking
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Bake Off, The Great British Bake Off is beautiful television
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: because at the end of the day they were winning
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a plate, so there's no money on the line. So like,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: if your oven goes out, you can come use my oven.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: If you don't know how to simmer butt butter, you
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: can watch me simmer butter or whatever. And everyone's just
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: like making a crumpet. Yeah, because Amy Moohler and Nick
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Auverreman are so kind while they host that show, even
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: though they're all angry Americans who would rip each other
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: apart on Top Chef. The vibe on that show is
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, do you need my quilting scissors here?
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Don't use those scissors, those will be bad. Use mine.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: And I feel like Amy Poehlar is the type of
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: person who's going to create a really good environment to
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: be in. Anyway. Yeah, she is so silently badass, Like
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: she's not highlight she's not flaunting it, she's not like
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: making a big deal about all the really cool shit
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: she does behind the scenes, you know what I mean, Like, Yeah,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: she's just got such a good vibe about her.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Her and Nick refused to be the people who tell
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the contestants that they're going home. They make the other
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: two judges do it. They like love stand back and
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: they look at them and be like, now be the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: mean people and sell these people home. Yeah, and then
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: everyone everyone has a cuddle bottle and they cry, Oh,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I love that. Every time someone goes to look at it,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I should go look at it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: It's so I do follow somebody on Instagram who was
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: on I think the first season of Making It. And
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I knew that because when I found her on Instagram,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: it was like, she looks really familiar. And then I
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: started following her because she was delightful, and then she
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: talked about being on Making It. I was like, oh,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I knew it was her because she and then she
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: had shared a photo and I was like, oh, that's
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: why I didn't recognize her. She was her weight had changed,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: so I didn't recognize her immediately because she was light
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: dinner at the time that I found her. So yeah,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I was like, love you.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, making it. I mean, it's a
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: beautiful show, a beautiful show. And that's why I love
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Nick Ouferman and why I was excited that he was
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: in the The Prime Show.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: And then they.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can let be Affreman because you could you
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: could still use that character who's obsessed with the one
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: knuckleball thing or whatever, like there was opportunity there for
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: story arc for him throughout every.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Eight throughout all eight episodes that I think didn't get
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: tapped into right.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: And then so back to my dad, just like quoting
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Dan Well, Jimmy Dugan and just the movie when
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: when the charm lady is like, eyebrows their shit too,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I remember my dad telling me
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: that he's like nadally eyebrows. It was when he started
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: letting his sister wax my eyebrows. And then he just
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: felt like he had the right to comment when that
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: had gone on too long. By the way, these are
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: my natural eyebrows. I haven't waxed or plucked.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: So you never had a uni no.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I mean like if I rub it, yeah there's hair,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: but there's hair on your entire face, right, you know
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like we're normalizing women's hair. I
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: have hair everywhere, yeah, and it is a chore to wax,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: to shave to all of it. And then afterwards you're like,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I even get an orgasm out of that. Like I
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: spent forty five minutes shaving, My water went from hot
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: to cold to hot again. At the end of it,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: you were bad in bed. That's just unfortunate, isn't it though?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Isn't it though? It really is in grown hairs and everything.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: But my dad used to tell me, like eyebrows there
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: should be too, and like here I am rubbing my
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: eyebrow to me, like I don't they've never I mean,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I'll ask Stephanie. Stephanie when you watch the replay, comment
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: for everyone to know if whether or not I had
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: a unibrow. And I'm just not remembering, But where would
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: it have gone now now that I'm in my thirties,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: it's just what I outgrew my unibrow.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Well, if you're doing waxing, like, okay, so look at
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: my eyebrows. These are not these are not my natural
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: shape I did. This is not my natural eyebrow. Okay,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: like everyone in the early two thousands, I haven't from
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: you penzled it. No, I didn't pencil it. I just
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: tweezed it so far down that it mutinied was like,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: we're dead. You've killed You've killed this space, and now
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I kind of wish I hadn't. So like part of
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: me is like like like my eyebrows should naturally come
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: to hear and they won't even grow in right here
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: at all. Wow, and it's it's like it and once
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: further back than the other, like it's a whole. I'm
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: just like, why did my mother she didn't let me.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I just did it. But I wish that somebody had
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: been like Julia. But it was two thousand and one
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: and then I and it was the style.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I just like, I never did them very thin, like
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: they were probably like a little bit thinner than this.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: But when so my eyebrows, like, my eyelashes are also
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: very long.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Like tweezing top. I tweezed on top, which apparently you're
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: not supposed to do.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I missed that episode of Cosmo or that copy of Cosmo.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: So the thing about my eyebrows is my eyelashes are long,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: and so is each individual eyebrow hair. Okay, so when
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: you get into this territory. There still looks like there's
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of eyebrow, but it's like five strands because yeah,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: so long that they just carry the rest of the brow.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: So then we'd wax and I would lose not only
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: like definition of my eyebrow, but I'd like lose half
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, and be like where the half of
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: your eyebrow went.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I decided that it needed to be waxed off on accident. Yeah,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to find my original eyebrow because I think
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: it posted about the original eyebrow. Yeah, because I think
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I posted about it. Because when we did the high
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: school episodes, I had, oh, but here we go. I
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: had my guests send me pictures from high school. There's
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: my original eyebrows.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: There it is. I remember this. Yeah, beautiful, great.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Great canvas to work with. Also, my child got these
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: exact eyebrows, so whenever I look at him, I'm always
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: just like, I'm so jealous.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: All right, I hope that all of the gen zers
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: out there keep their eyebrows. Keep your eyebrows. Heroin chic
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: fashion is coming back. Keep your love handles, and keep
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: your eyebrows, because you will want them. Back.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Why is Heroin Sheic coming back?
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Because everything eventually comes back and we're in a period
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: of time where we hate women the most.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Did anyone else watch the Victorious Secret docu series on Hulu? Like,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: don't cave to the men.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Don't cave to it? Speaking of men, can we talk
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: about how the only reason why we got a women's
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: league is because men were like, there's a war, how
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: will we sell candy?
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually, and that's pretty true to life. It was
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Wriggly the guy who started Wriggly Gum. It was He's
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: the one who kind of spearheaded the All American Girls
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Baseball professional All American Girls Professional Baseball.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't because like, oh, no, America needs a hobby.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: We're so down in the domes. It's like I have
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: to sell gum. I have numbers that I need to
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: sell gum.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he's Rickley Field is named after him
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: because he gave a ton of money and was.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Like, build it, build it. It's a mine. Make it happen.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: And if you've noticed, they're one of the few stadiums
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: left that isn't named after some weird shit. I'm looking
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: at up and C Park is that.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: One by me.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in Cleveland. Yeah, that's where the Guardians play.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what we renamed one of the Oh yes,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I do we have like the Virgin Mobile one? Because
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: is that what John Cusack and Joan Cusack used to advertise.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: For did cos I don't recall that?
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah they did. Also in How You is Ann Cuzac
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: as Shirley Baker. I know she just beautiful and cute
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: as about and yeah, everyone in this movie is so
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: hot except for Tom Hanks.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. He's got some kind of appeal to
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: him for being like as he cleans up through the movie.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: He doesn't actually fully clean up during the movie, no,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: but he does have a vibe that you're just like okay,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: like you're you're better ish And then once he starts
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: to get better adjacent fine ass. Bill Pullman comes to
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: town and you're like, oh my god, Bill Plem.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: You know I want while you were sleeping to happen
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: to me like so bad. Yeah, his kid was in
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Top Gun Maverick. I was like, why does this guy
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: look like he's light? And it's the one with the
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: glasses and I was like, this is gonna make me
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I gotta look rite, thank you IMDb. So he looked
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: it up and I was like, oh my god, you're
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Bill Pullman's and I see it. I feel really uncomfortable
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: now because I also think you're cute. And now this
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: is a weird face of life to be.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: This is a weird it's a weird conjecture. When fucking,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: when fucking good looking Bill Pullman. And that's where they
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: really missed the mark with the TV show. They didn't
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: find anyone as fine as Bill Pullman to be the
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: husband I.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Love when he walks in and he's like, hi, hgud
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: and he's just on the door holding a hat, and
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: she just and we we're on the heels of Betty's
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Spaghetti's husband being dead, and the emotion that you see
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: in Geena Davis's face, the concern, the worry you're holding
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: with her. You are very concerned. Tom is walking slowly
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: to both of them. They're sitting next to each other.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Which one is it. Oh my god, I can't take
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: it anymore. Betty, I'm so sorry. It's George.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: She just can't, she can't, she can't play.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: And we go through get them home, and Geena Davis
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: is bawling because she's held all of these emotions about
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: her husband being in the war. She can't take it anymore.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: That was her breaking point.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: And who walks in but fine ass Bill Mooleman looking
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: the best he's ever looked.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I look terrible, and he's like, you
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: are the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Bill Buleman is probably the reason why I went in
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: to be an army wife. That and that trashy show
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: on Lifetime. I was like, look at him with that
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: hat and the khaki fucking secy and then like Tom
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Hanks sees Bill Pullman and like I think when I
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: was a kid, because everything was supposed to be like
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: romance centered, if it was about women, I was like, well,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: clearly Geena Davis and Tom Hanks had a really interrobriate
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: crush on one another. That's what happens in all of
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the movies. And this go around, I was like, no,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you were just conditioned to believe that they should have
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: had a crush on one another. They just mutually understood
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: one another.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep, totally because they could have been a dynamite
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: team had Dottie stayed in the league. Because she's a
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: solid player. I mean, he's told her multiple times, you're
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: the best stand player in the league, and he knows
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the sport inside out, and so like the way that
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: she makes him better. It's not as a romantic partner.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: It's as a friend who cares because Gina Davis makes
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: because Dottie Henson made everybody better her.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when she doesn't want to go out drinking with
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: them because she's a nice married lady, but she immediately
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: gets worried that they're about to get caught, so she
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: drags them all out of the bar, including a singing
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: in love Marla.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: And doesn't say they'll kick you out of the league.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: She says they'll kick.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Us, us out of the league. Yeah.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: So she doesn't see herself as an individual unit. She
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: sees herself as part of a.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Team, which is something else that was missing from the
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: prime show. I don't think that anyone on the Peaches
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: side of the world in that show thought of anyone
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: as an US. It wasn't the team, it wasn't all
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: of us. It was this is my shot, this is
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: my secret, this is what will get me kicked out
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: of the league.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Until Joe gets traded and then they're like, oh, we
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: need her word team. I was like, have you done
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: this entire time? Because I missed it.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I missed it. I missed it. I missed when you
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: all liked one another. God, Geena Davis is so good
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: in this movie.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: She oh, yeah, yeah, she's fantastic. Do you remember when
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: she had her own show?
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I used to watch it. She'd always have like high
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: waisted bands on.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I love Geena Davis And God, the movie is so good.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: And even when Bill Pullman come back to town, like
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Tom Hanks does a double take, probably because Tom Hanks
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: is also like, that is the finest man I've ever seen.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I have traveled the world with other men in baseball uniforms,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: and you, sir, you are what a man should be.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: And honestly, I would probably quit baseball if it meant
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: going home with you. Yep. And he just knows, he knows.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: There's like and I also like that where he walks
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: up to her because she's clearly packing up to go
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: and he's like, so this is it and she's like, yeah,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go home, We're gonna have babies, and he's
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: like okay, and like he knows he's in a position
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: where he can push very hard to make her stay,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: but he also knows he's in no position to do that,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: so he says his like check in, and then he
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: goes back into the bus.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't he come back and give her a speech?
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Oh maybe he does.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, you're gonna recredit and and all these things,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: like you can go back to organ and do that,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: and you have all the time in the world to
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: But this right here, right now, Da da da. And
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: here's the thing about the going home to have babies.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Clearly Kit had a buttload of babies, Like she shows
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: up to that museum with a buttload of a family.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Gina Davis went by herself. There were one baby packed
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: her of suitcase. I was like, Gina, you could have
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: had it all. You could have done the baseball, you
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: could have continued to fuck with Bill Holeman, and you
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: could have had a lot of babies.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: You know, did you ever see ship what was it called?
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Keep talking? I'm gonna find it because it was the
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: one thing I saw Bill Pullman and that made me
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: the most uncomfortable, and I was really upset. Oh no,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: because my friend was like, you have to watch this
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: show with me, blah blah blah. It's like, mine, I will,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: you know, because I'm familiar with this franchise you're talking about.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I understand what's happening.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Blah blah. I mean Bill Poleman always be a nice man.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: And then I watched this show with my friend. I
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: was like, One, this shit could really happen. So I'm
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: really upset that you made me watch it. Two, I
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: do not like, no.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: One wants to watch Bill Holman be a bad bad man.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Did you know on the IMDb they list their baseball positions.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I thought that was really cool.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do that in the end credits too.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Like I was like, what an odd to
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: people who understand baseball?
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, was it called Torchwood? Yeah, it's Torchwood.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Oh I didn't. I didn't realize it was from twenty eleven.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: No, but it's like, I don't remember there being forty
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: one episodes.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Well maybe you didn't want all of it because I
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: made Bill Pullman a bad man.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: No, because there's like a mini oh you know what
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: it is. I know why. I know why twenty eleven
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Miracle Day, That's why Torchwood Miracle Day series four is
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: like it's a separate series. It's the same series Torchwood,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: but then it's like two years later Miracle and so
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: it's a whole thing. So I only watched Torchwood Miracle Day,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: and he is not a good person in it. And
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: it was like I turned to my friend. I turned
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: to my friend and is like, I can't believe you
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: fucking ruined Bill Pullman.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: For I can't who wants to ruin Bill fucking Pullman.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I was so mad. I was so freaking mad. But
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: then he redeemed himself by being in.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: What was he that I loved recently? Oh?
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about that still?
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want to talk about death Delivery guy.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Oh how rude and awful he is.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: I have to have a name.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: There's no name on this list, Government number one. He's
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: just like narrating the fact that someone's gonna die. He's like,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: oh god.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: You know, the government couldn't even send you somebody.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: And today's not a good day for me. Today's not
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: a good day for me. I gotta tell you that
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: your husband's dead. And I was like, I want Tom
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Hanks to kill this man. But then again, I was like,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: this is something else that the show kind of tried
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: to address and then glossed over, was the realities of
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: fucking war. Yeah, because how many women did have just
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: a bumbling idiot being like, it's a death telegram.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I think they did an okay job with
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: it on Bax and Clance's side, when Clance's husband gets
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: recruited and she's like, this is scary because you know,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: black soldiers aren't treated the same, and like all these things.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: But the other thing that I think was really that
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I picked up on this time that I haven't picked
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: up in years past, because I think we forget. They rebranded.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: It's not the War Department anymore, but at the time
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: they were, you know, the Department of War. Now it's
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: the Department of Defense. Oh and I can't remember when
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: that switch happened over, but they did a like a
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: whole rebranding.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: One of my other favorite lines less Scary. One of
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: my other favorite lines is when everyone has a turn
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: telling Evelyn to keep that kid away from them, except
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: for Geena Davis, who tells her, I hope I have five.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Just let you the consumment professional, I hope I have.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: It's one of the funniest lines when she goes, I
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: hope I have five just like him.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because this movie is brilliant, the deliveries of the
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: you know, the comedic timing, the dialogue, like all of it.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Tom Hanks. When Rosie O'Donnell had her own show, Tom
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Hanks was on and they were talking about, you know,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: filming together, blah blah, and he's like, yeah, you know
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: my talking about their favorite scene. She's like, well, my
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: favorite scene is the you.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Know I'm gonna show you.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: So they show a clip it's not in the actual movie,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think, and it's Rosie running out to the outfield.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: She looks and did Tom bring it? Or did Rosie go?
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: This one's my favorite?
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: No, Tom brought it. Tom brought it.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: He's like, here's my favorite clip and she's eating it.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I Also, my favorite line of the movie is when
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Madonna is trying to convince Geena Davis, here's the thing, like,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: we hit a home run. I flashed my bosom. My
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: my bosom falls out and Rosely O'Donnell just looks at her.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: It goes, do you think there's a man in this
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: country who hasn't seen your bosoms? May, and she's like
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: so concerned, May, do you think there's a man in
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: this country who hasn't seen your bosoms?
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: So funny, there's.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: She's not even being ironic about it. She's like, Okaynoddy,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm running, Okay, I'm running. And it
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: just comes out and it's just open. It just bops
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: open because they're that desperate to do anything they can
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: to help the league, to save the league. And it's
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: like titties kisses for foul balls with Ellen May, who
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: somehow got hotter in this rewatch of the movie. I
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: was like, is Ellen Ma prettier than I remember me?
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: It's so funny.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: And then like they tried to touch that. Oh again,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: they were really heavy handed in the let's make a
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: point about women, and then they didn't make a point
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: at all because they took out all of the context
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: of the movie.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the comment when you and I were talking
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: about the Jimmy Dugan checking in with Geena Davis when
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: she's leaving. I found the I found the transcript. It's like,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: I know he gave her speech. He says, taking a
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: day trip, Dottie, No Bob and I are driving home
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: to organ Jimmy, long pause. You know, I really thought
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: you were a ballplayer, Dottie, while you were wrong, was I, Dottie, Yeah,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: it was. It's only a game, Jimmy. It's only a game.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: And I and I don't need this. I have Bob.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: I don't need this at all. Jimmy. I gave away
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: five years at the end of my career, drinking five years,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: and now there isn't anything I wouldn't give to get
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: back any day of it, Dottie. While we're different, Jimmy,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: this is chicken shit, Dottie. If you want to go
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: back to Orgon and make a hundred babies, great. I'm
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: in no position to tell anyone how to live. But
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: sneaking out like this, quitting your credit for the rest
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: of your life, baseball is what gets inside you. It's
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: what lights you up. You can't deny that, Dottie. It
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: just got too hard, Jimmy. It's supposed to be hard.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: is what makes it great.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: There's no crying in baseball. Ugh, this movie is a
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: great movie. I wish the show would have been great.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: You know, It's one of those things in life This
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: sounds so terrible and I'm just an asshole, but it's
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: one of those same moments in life when you're when
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: I regret not just saying like fuck you to everybody
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: and taking my baby and moving to LA and trying
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: to have a career because in my mind I had
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: this show built. Yeah, for the last thirty years, I've
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: been building this show in my head. What would I
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: do to honor the stories that didn't get to be
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: a part of the All American Girls Baseball League? What
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: would I do to honor the league in general? The
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: impact of the influence. My grandmother was the right age
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: for all of this stuff during that time, and she's
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: not a sports person, but my you know, but we
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: grew up my grandfathers, both of them loved baseball. We
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: grew up watching baseball. And so I appreciate that Abby
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Jacobson's version had so many people who are queer in
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: the cast, and that is wonderful. It Also, when you
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: go back and watch the original and then compare the two,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: the original still stands taller because you have so much heart.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: You really do feel you really do feel it, you
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: really do understand it. Like when the guys like what
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: do you mean you're shutting it down like the boar
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: And Gary Marshall's like, the war's ending, the boys are
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: coming back like sorry, and he's like, oh, I guess
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: this is how it's going to be in the factories too,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: like okay, Rosie, turn in your rivets. We tell these
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: women to get out of the kitchen. It's their American
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: duty to do this and help their country, and now
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: we're just going to send them back to the kitchen.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: And Gary Marshall, you want us to send the boys
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: coming back from war to the kitchen? Like that snapshot
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: of what America was like when it came to the
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: conversation about women. It was so impactful to me as
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: a child, not even as child because the movie came
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: out when I was eight, so yeah, a child that
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: it highlighted to me that it wasn't just it wasn't
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: as glamorous as these memory shows were doing. Like to me,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: a league of their own was literally saying, it's cute
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: that you guys want to like God complex, what was
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: going on with women standing tall. Here's a harsh dose
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: with a lot of heart of how it felt to
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: be in that era, and it helped me understand my
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: grandmother's better. Well, you can have your own money, don't
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: rely on your husband necessarily. It's okay to try and
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: do something that you want to do with your life.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about getting married. Make sure you're educated. Like
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: all the messages they gave me, I think I understood
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: where it came from because of this movie.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Well, and I think a bigger slap in the face
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: is they wanted us to be grateful that they had
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: to rely on us during the war. Right, So it's like,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: not only are you relying on us during the war
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: because you've shipped everyone else that you usually rely on out,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: but then you want us to be like, well, thank you,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: sir for letting me lay baseball. Thank you. I really
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: love my new riveting gun. Like no, and when that's
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: captured in May's speech, Yeah, you're not shutting me down,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: that's right. And and at the end, at the end
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: of the day, like I think a league of their
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: own highlighted that, you know, and I do think we
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: should go. I want to go see them at the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame. If that exhibit is actually a thing.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's still standing, but it
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: was for sure. I think that actually it, I think
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: the time it opened was earlier. I think the exhibit
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: opened in like the late eighties. But I'm pretty sure
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: it's still part of the But it's what I do
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: want to go to Cooperstown. That is, that is a
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: real thing on my bucket list is to go to Cooperstown.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I think what it is is like a lag of
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: their own took these monolies where it's like, these are
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: our heroes, these are the women and Rosie Riveters and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: all of it, and it made them your mom, yeah,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: your ant plane baseball. And now I'm going to be
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: an asshole and I'm gonna sound just like my mom
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: when I said when I say that the Amazon Prime
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: show was just trying to shove points down my throat
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: that like these people matter. Yeah, I knew that they mattered.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I wanted them to matter to me, you know.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: And it's interesting because I feel like that's a lot
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: of television and movies these days. It's a lot of
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: like here's a very pointed, not so subtle message, heavy handed,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: nail it on the head. Whereas you know, with a
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: League of their own, there's a lot of messaging. But
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: there's also a lot of nuance. Yeah, and there's a
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff that we grew up with watching in
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: the nineties and some of the eighties, not really, but
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: the nineties where it was like, here's heavy messaging, but
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: you don't feel like you're being preached at because it's nuanced.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Getting a lot of preachy shit right now, and that's
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: really hard because like I was just I was just again,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: I have this conversation with my friend Niki all the time.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: You can stop telling me that my people were enslaved.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Give me a shit, because it's becoming more and more
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: aggressive over time, Like the message of.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: We were enslaved.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: It feels like it's becoming more and more aggressive over time,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: and that's hard for me.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Like we're currently reminding white people that we killed Emmett
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Till and it's like, oh, I know that we killed
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Emmett Till over a lie. I also didn't need that
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: lady to say it on her deathbed.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: And and there's a way I don't know, Like the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: the Malcolm X movie was so good and it wasn't
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: preachy at least to me. It didn't feel pretty. I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: also didn't grow up during Malcolm X. Right, like, I'm
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: coming in after Malcolm X's death. I read his autobiography,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: but watching the movie, it didn't feel like a heavy
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: handed message of this is what Malcolm X was about.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: It felt like this is what Malcolm X was about,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: this is his life here. It felt like a biopic,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: It felt informational. It didn't feel like you motherfuckers do
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: Malcolm X.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think what ends up happening too is
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: the people who get it get it, but then they're
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: just literally pissing off the people who don't get it,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: and now they're loud. Yeah, and it's like, I don't
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: need them to be loud about anything else. Please make
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: them feel something for the people that they're watching on screen,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: so they empathize with the people who surround them.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Right, That's a huge part of it, and I feel
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: like a lot of that is missing nowadays. And I
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: think that's probably why I'm always gravitating towards Marvel movies
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: because it it's a superhero storyline. I'm sure if you
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: wanted to get deep about it, you can get deep
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: about it, but at the end of the day, like
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: you can be superficial about it.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's an art to subtleness that when it
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: is absent, you notice where it's like, my god, you're
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: just hitting me over the head with it, and it
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: makes your characters one dimensional. Yeah, what did we know
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: about Carson? She liked making out with Greta the end?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: What did we know about Greta She felt shame because
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: she liked making out with women the end?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And compared to sorry, go ahead and finish your thought.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Compared to the way that Doris's dad accident not accidentally
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: unintentionally slut shames may that happens. Your dad is always
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: accidentally slut shaming someone and you have to be like,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: don't hey, you could have kept that one to yourself.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: And even further than that too. With Dottie and Kit.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: There you understand Kit feels overshadowed by Dottie. With Dottie,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: you understand she's conflicted. She loves playing, she loves her sister,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: she loves her husband, but a woman's place in her
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: mind she's not in. I felt like this movie was
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: her trying to deal with her desire to want more,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: her desire of wanting more, but her obligation of what
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: a good woman does. In nineteen forty one, and I
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: think what.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Happens in the Prime Show is that Ammy Jacobson made
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: it almost too easy for the women to have their
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: way as if it was twenty twenty two. Oh, Nick
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Offerman quit, We don't need to rehire him. Oh Carson's
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: husband comes back. Good news. He's gonna say that he
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't need a baby right away and she can keep playing.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: And it's like that feels unrealistic to me.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's a level of so like historical fiction,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: right is a whole genre, and there is a level
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: where you how are you true to what was happening
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: at the time, correct and then playing a new game.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: So like Bridgerton, I think with their color blind casting
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: does a really good job because it's based on fake shit. Yeah, right,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: the aristocracy is real, but the Bridgerton's are fucking fake. Right,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter if Queen Charlotte is black or not,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: because it's a fucking fake thing. The All American Girls
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Baseball League is real, so to tie in things that
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: are true to the time, it's still managed to keep
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: my air conditioning just turned on and all my doors
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: and wind up their open shit. So anyway, it's gonna fine.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: So it's staying true to the time, but still being
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: able to make it not feel like you're reinforcing negative stereotypes.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: I feel like the ninety two version does that. Yeah, yes,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: And that's I think a lot of like, Okay, can
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: I just not to be a tangent? But everyone's losing
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: their shit about blonde right now in part and I'm like,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: first of all, it's not a biopic. Anybody who read
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: the book will tell you it's in the fiction section
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: of the bookstore. Is not a true to Marilyn Monroe's
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: life story.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: She didn't sign off on this, she didn't.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Her estate not super thrilled. They're like, Okay, it's good, eh,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: But that's but that's another example of like, this is fiction.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: There's creative license here. However, because it's a real person.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: There is a weird line where you have to balance
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: delicately because there are some things that just are factually
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: inaccurate that happen in this movie, Like she doesn't die
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: before cast chat, or she doesn't die after cast chaplain,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: he dies six years after she dies. And like there's
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: little things like that where I'm just like, Okay, it's fake.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: It's fake. It's fake. But then somebody on Instagram sent
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: me a DM because I was like bitching about like
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: people being so upset about this biopic. I'm like, it's
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: not a biopic. Stop calling it a biopic, right, And
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: they were like, it's being marketed like a biopic it is,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: And I was like, shit, I guess because I read
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: the book twenty years ago. I walked into.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Knowing it's not a biopic and it is literally being
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: marketed like they are telling Marylyn's story as if Marilyn
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: gets to this.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Is Joyce Carol Oates imagination of Marilyn Monroe's life. That's
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: what this is.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: And then my urging to Joyce Carol Oates says, why
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: didn't you just do what anyone does, tell Marilyn Monroe's
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: story without naming her Marilyn, Marilyn Monroe wasn't the only
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: woman abused by the system around her Hollywood or not. No, So,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: like there's a story there. You can't imagine exactly what
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: happened with Marilyn Monroe, and we all do if you
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: wanted to tell what you assumed happened to her name
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: or anything, but Marilyn. Yeah, So like it's just like
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: it's a miss on everyone. For me, like Joyce Carol Oates,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: that's irresponsible.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: And that book came out in nineteen ninety nine, right.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: No one wants a fictional account of Marilyn Monroe's life
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: because the nonfiction account is horrific enough. Number two, then
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: it's the marketing of it all to me, like, that's irresponsible.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: One way that I think that we've seen this done right.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched the movie yet, but maybe I will
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: now that my weekend has freed up in the hate
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: you give. I kept telling you as I was reading it,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: I go, they don't pull any punches, but they also
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: don't tell me that they're not pulling punches on purpose.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: It is literally a little girl living in her neighborhood
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: through the horrific death and murder of her friend. Yeah,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: and they're not pulling any punches about what this neighborhood
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: is like. But there's like no footnote to bel and
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: three out of seven neighborhoods in America are like this
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: or whatever. It's literally this is the truth. And I
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: think that ali of their own does that because you
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: can't change the fact that they probably did have to
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: make out with guys during foul Balls nineteen ninety two version. Yeah,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety two version. You can't, like, you probably
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: can't change the fact that there was a lot of
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: you know, queer bias.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Duh. Duh, Yeah, there were hell of laws again and
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: in some states, some of those laws are still on
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: the fucking books.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Duh. Like it's a duh for me, Like Amazon Farm,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: you didn't have to like make that everyone's story in
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: the show for me to be like, oh, because those
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: issues are still happening today. Yeah, So why didn't you
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: just tell me a story without making it a did
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Show? Yes?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: I knew? Yeah, And I.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Think what's beautiful about certain types of storytelling that doesn't
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: necessarily happen anymore is that it like you're saying, the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: dig you know doesn't exist. It's just we're plopping you in. Yeah,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: here's the snippet. You know, who does a really good
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: job as a writer like that? Taylor Jenkins read, I
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: just finished Carrie Sodo is Back, who makes an appearance
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: in Malibu Riising, which is her book that released prior
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: to Carrie Sodo Is Back, And in Malibu Riising, you
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: fucking hate Carrie Sodo. She is the worst. And so
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: when it was announced that the next book would be
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: about her, I was living. I was like, I want
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: to read about this ho like, no, she sucks. By
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: the end of the book, I was like, Carrie Sodo,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: you're my girl. Because system was against you, you worked
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: super hard, everyone judged your methods, everyone thought that you
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: were terrible for not being more friendly, for being arrogant,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: all the shit like. So it taught. It reminded me
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: that a little snippet of somebody in one person's lens
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that's who they are, right, But to add
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: to that, you can still have those snippets be thought provoking.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Because what happened. I was mad about Carrie Soto being
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: the main character of the next book. And then what
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: did I do? I read the book and then I
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: learned so much more about myself, and you know, was
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: reminded about the nineties. But it wasn't like, remember how
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: shitty the nineties were towards women. It was here's what
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: it was like to be a woman athlete through Carrie's lens.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: But we're not like, it's fact rather than just being
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: like opinion, you know what I mean, It's her facts,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: like there's literal like stats when it comes to being
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: a tennis player that you know whatever.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: It's why when I have a professional on the podcast,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I always make sure to also go through my own
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: story because people can like quote you facts and all
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: of it. But unless I tell you, like this is
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: how my period and menstruation cycle fucks me over in
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: the world, then why would Congress listen to me if
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I just go eighteen out of twenty two women have
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: horrific cramps, right.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: And I think also Thoma and Louise did that. Yeah,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: it's such a good movie because, like Thoma and Louise
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: is an entire movie about what happens to women after
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: they're sexually assaulted, and the labels that they have to
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: endure and the lack of support and honestly the manic
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: like reclaiming of yourself that has to happen with some
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: women after they are sexually assaulted. But the sexual assault
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: happens and they almost stop bringing it up. Yeah, like
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: it happens. And then like Theoma's husband is also a
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: fucking ass, Louise, which one is it Thoma or Thelma's husband.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Thoma's husband is an abusive but it's like they show
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: us that they don't have to keep harping right on it.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they literally don't keep bringing it up. You
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: just aught you know, you know what's happened, and you
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: remember throughout the entire film. And and god, I miss
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: I miss that about the way we told stories. Huh.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: I know I'm as good storytelling. I miss when you
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: could trust your audience to go there with you.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I told you. That's why I love Steve
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: Martin because whenever I see him do stand up or whatever,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: he just assumes everyone in his audience is intelligent or
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: not even I We shouldn't even say intelligent, because that's
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: not fair. He just assumed. He just goes into it.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: He's like, if you've been following my career, then you
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: know where I'm at. So here's my here's my He
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't you know what I mean. It's very like, here's
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: my show.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: I've noticed this new trend in stand up comedy, especially
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: with new material, where like people get up and they
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: tell you why you're going to be offended or why
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't be offunded before they deliver the joke. And
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, if you just deliver the joke. People might
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: forget that we're offended people from time to time like
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: just say that.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Yet what really actually kind of bothers me too when
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: people are like, oh, we can't you know, we can't
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: have comedy and satire anymore in da DA And it's like, well,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: that's not always the case, Like, consider the kind of
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: comedy you're doing. Is it trash like toilet bathroom humor?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Because what stands the test of time is like, because
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: you know, observational comedy is really big, right, like everybody's
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: that's like a huge thing right now, which is fine,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: but there's elements of observational comedy that are just like
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: always going to be funny, right, Periods are always going
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: to be funny, right, Like are always gonna bleed, so
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: there's always gonna be something funny about that.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: But it's always going to be someone in the room
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: who likes a poop joke.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you have a well done poop joke
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: that isn't just like kind of you know, there's a
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know, there's like a level, and I think
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: it's hard because then I think when people say things
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: like well, being politically correct is just ruining comedy, and
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, your stupidity is ruining comedy. You're like,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: you don't know how to write a funny joke because
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: no one reads anybody. Yeah, like you're just exploiting people.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: There's a difference down there is a way to tease
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: people and still punch up. Yes, I'm trying to think
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: of who I mean. Taylor Tomlinson does a really good
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: job of making the joke be about someone else, but
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: she's actually the bud of the joke.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, John fuck Mulaney.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, my friend John Malaney.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, why did I forget his last name?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Almost said malcolm it.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: That's not right, that's not right. Yeah, John Mulaney. He
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: does a really great job of making the joke anyone
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: about anyone who isn't him, and yet at the end
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: of the joke, you still know he's the bud of
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: the joke.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, He's not making jokes at people's expenses. He is explaining.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: This is why I'm fucked up because when these people
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: do this, I can't feel the correct way about it, right.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And that's the difference. Like when I watched
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: going back to Steve Martin because he's pretty much the
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: comedian I've been following my whole life. I watched his
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: special with Martin Short, and maybe I told you the
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: story already. Like Steve Martin's telling jokes that I'm like, Oh,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: that shit's gonna be funny to my kid, to me,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: to my dad. Martin Short's making jokes that are only
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: gonna be funny to me because he's making fun of
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: the Kardashians. Yeah.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Well, and I think that's why you know, Saturday Night
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Live is a huge show, and it's probably always going
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: to be a huge show. But you can't watch all
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: of Saturday Night Live because it is all about what
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: happened that previous week.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Or Yeah, I actually I just with the advent of
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: you know, Instagram doing video, I only watched the sketches
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: now on Instagram and then I cue up Weekend Update
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: to watch Weekend Update only on Sunday morning.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: See, because I think that Colin Chose and Michael Chay
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: are so fucking funny, are funny, and you know, there's
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: just I don't know. People have to start reading again
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: so they understand the story structure seriously, because it's really
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: getting like because as people read less, our ability to
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: tell stories also diminishes.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, it's like what we were talking. I
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: almost said, I didn't say this to you last night.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: I thought I did, and then I went back and
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: listen to our messages and I realized they didn't.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Oral history.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: That is all my people have ever had. For the
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: longest time, we weren't. It was literally against the law
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: to educate an enslaved person. And then when since slave,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: you know, slavery ends, then you have other types of
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: laws that prevent us from being educated. Right, Yes, so
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: we only had oral history, which is why the black
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: community has honed that spoken word art so well, because
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: we've been doing it for centuries.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: And now I know the connection because I complained about
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: people who do bad spoken wordly.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: And I didn't want to be like you were complaining,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: but like, but we've been doing it for centuries, so
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: like when you get storytellers who do it so well,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: this is why it's so heartbreaking sometimes too when there
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: aren't more Black authors published, because it's like it's literally
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: in our blood. Yeah.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Well, and I think I think there are people who
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: are storytellers and then there are people who know things. Yeah,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: and It's like one isn't always the same true, one
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: hundred percent truth. It's like when I was telling you
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: when I saw the Emmett Til trailer and I was like,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: I can't becay, And I think I shared it with
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: book club, Like I my family, my grandmother told this
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: story to us like it was our relative. Yeah, like
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: this was a cautionary tale. This was a tale of
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: this is how the world we're living in.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: Like it didn't matter that he wasn't my kin. My
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: grandmother told us that story like he was. Which is
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: why I will not be seeing the movie, because why
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: would I open that trauma? Because I like she shared
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: that story like it was a firsthand experience for herself. Yeah,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: but other people, white people who don't believe in racism
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: should go see it.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: They won't though I know, I don't know who the mt.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: Till movie is for. It's probably for white people who
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: really want to feel like they're doing the thing.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, but yeah.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I just I see it. I see as people like
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: stop reading, Like the reading gap really bothers me. You know,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: we don't teach kids how to read correctly anymore. Did
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: your kids still have phonics as part of his curriculum.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: I want to say yes, But also at the same time,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: because my mom was a librarian when we were kids,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: and she was a preschool teacher, like phonics was just
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: kind of sorry.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: You taught him how to read, and that's why he
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: knows how to read.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was just all kind and I taught,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: and I taught taught adult education myself, and I relied
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: heavily on phonics. Even when the curriculum moved away from phonics,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: I still brought phonics in. I don't think I know
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: how to teach somebody without phonics, to be honest, what
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: in all of.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: The schools, maybe not all the schools, but in the
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: majority of the schools in the USA, kindergarteners and children
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: aren't being taught phonics anymore. They're being taught sight words
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: and guessing like reading a picture. So then there the
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: goal is for you to memorize every word in the
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: English language.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: That and that's actually what about people who have learning
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: disabilities who can't.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fucking riot.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: And you know, with my niece, when we would sit down,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: like even to this day, we shall if she comes over.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: I love doing word searches. My grandma did word searches.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: So it's like my way of honoring her. I have
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: her help me, and I'll say and I'll spell out.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: You know, we do all what does say?
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: Like I do all that with her. Like I don't
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: just tell her what's this? You know what I mean?
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: It's like I walk her through the steps of each
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: word no, and then she finds it on the first try.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: After I've done that with her.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: She's so smart. I'm a former educator. My mom and
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: my sister are still educators. We are forever reading about
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: how we teach kids to read now because it's almost
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: like we're trying to teach them quickly. Yeah, so they're
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: at the tests. And if you teach someone quickly how
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: to read, it's I understand why people aren't reading in
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: large mass anymore, because it has to be stressful to
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: be able to not be able to look at a
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: word and try your best to sound it out. Gosh,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: that's heartbreaking. And like you, I grew up as a reader.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: Like that's how I connected to my mom and my dad.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: We would read books and my mom would take me
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: to Barnes and Noble and I would pick an age
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: appropriate book and then she'd be like, mmmmm, that's too short.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: You will read it in two days. We will be
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: back here get a bit larger book and be like, okay,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: I have to go find the biggest book that they
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: had children and I was reading at a collegiate level
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: in the fourth grade.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did, my mom did. We rented from the library.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: We bought books like it was a big deal. For
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: my son's first birthday, and actually at the baby shower too,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: I asked everyone to bring their favorite children's book. We
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: read with them every single night. You're right, though, I
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: did go through this training where she gave us the
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: breakdown again studies. Nobody gives a shit about studies. But
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: the average child he at the time, this is ten
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: years ago, heard like it was an obs It was
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: like an ungodly low. And now like if you didn't
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: reach your kid, the average amount of words they heard
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: in a day it was like twenty two I was
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: gonna say like twenty two hundred, two thousand, whatever. It
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: was really low. And then if you read your kids,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: you know, and it's a higher number, and then that
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: just elevates them so quickly with just what they're able
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: to do, to articulate and all these things. And it
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: blew my mind that people don't read with their kids.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: And I don't mean like I mean like even educated people. Yeah,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: because the students I taught were adults, were college dropouts,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: probably had a learning disability that were undiagnosed, you know,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: kind of We're in a farming community, so a lot
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: of farm laborers who didn't finish school. But then when
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: I'd get the kids whose parents were like middle class,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: who never read to them, I thought, really, like, not
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: even in the middle class, we're not reading dark kids like, well, but.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: Why would you? So, why would you read to your
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: kid if reading is such a chore for you. It's
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: like one of those things where if you don't love it,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: you don't do it.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: I guess my shock at the time, which I've I've
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: evolved since then. I would just like to preface that
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: was we would have people who would be like managers
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: at the government. You know, they're in a managerial position
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: of some kind. They're in a white collar job, who
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: aren't reading to their children, whereas we assume and associate
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: lack of reading skills with blue collar jobs. Correct, So
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: I guess so when I was working in the industry
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: in adult education and I'd have students whose parents had
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: white collar jobs. That was why I think I was surprised, because,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: like in my assumption of your stereotype, you should know
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: how to read. Yeah, But at the same time, in
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: my city, it's not that hard to become a manager
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: if you've been there long enough, doesn't matter if qualified.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: And I think what's also happening, and we've seen it
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: happening for years that's not just new with the League
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: of their own prime show is no one wants a
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: show that's going to be complicated, so we just spoon
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: feed them everything.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: H Yeah, but you can spoon feed everything and still
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: have a movie that's good.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Top Gun Maverick. I didn't see it.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: You don't have to, and I actually think it might
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: make you angry because I don't. Tom Cruise's character isn't
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: grown in thirty five years. He's still a you know,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: huffy puffy, I'm right guy. But it's still an enjoyable
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: movie because they're they're so committed to the plot. There's
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: nothing complicated about it. The acting's pretty decent, and they
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: give us a beach scene where everyone's half naked with
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: all the maps, So I'm not mad at it.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: Body's Body's Bodies was a very simple story, and yet
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: I was tense the entire time.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, see there's another example, right, like that was a
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: good movie.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: And then we see Don't Worry dark want I know?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: And then we see Don't Worry Darling, and we see
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: these places where people refuse to fill in the holes
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: for themselves. So they're mad at Olivia Wilde for not
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: telling them, to which I would argue you. And I
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: haven't made this argument yet to the people who just
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: scream at me that there were so many holes in
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: that movie. That movie you're living as Alice. So what
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: Alice knows, you know? And there were things that she
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: had time to try and figure out and discover, and
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: then there were things that she didn't have time to
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: figure out and discover. Like people were like, why didn't
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: we go in deeper as to why Olivia wildwoold choose
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: this Because we didn't have the time. We were going
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: to be murdered, right, Why don't we know where the
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: men got this information? Because Alice doesn't know. We lived
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: that movie through Alice. We forget that our narrator is
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: where we get our information.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're so used to the viewpoint of we
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: know everything, like the narrator knows everything, yes, And I
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: just I don't particularly care for that style, even when
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: I was studying it in school and even in high school.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: All through it, like, I was just like, I don't
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: want I don't give me, give me the narrator. Who's unstable?
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Are you the one? No, who's just teld me that
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: they don't like unreliable narrators. Oh no, I'm here for
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: an unreliable narrator. It must have been one of my
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: friends that I was out to dinner with and then
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: they were like, hold in cold it the kid in
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: the catcher and Maria, who I can't fucking stand. Yeah,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: they were like, he's fine because he's a teenager. I go,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: he's a teener user, they'll grow into an abusive old man.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: Like, it's not fine because he's a teenager. Look, it
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: is six o'clock. We don't have that kind of time
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: for you to tell me who that was, so I
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: could yell at them and the d MS about that.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't even remember who it was. This has
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: been our discovery of a league of their own. Let's
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: do our last question, Juels, were you still comfy with
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: the movie? I was.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: I was because all the things that I was like icky,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: it was like, well, it's nineteen forty one, so that's
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: why it's icky.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: And I think sometimes we lose I of if there's
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: no ickiness, then we don't know what's icky and what
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: isn't icky anymore. Like sometimes there has to be ickiness
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: put into a plot point or a story so we
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: can go, oh my god, that's icky.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: I start to read our reactions.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and when I say icky, I mean things like
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: when Doris's dad slutshames may.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but dad still be slut shaman, Yeah.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: Exactly, or when like they're all constantly referring to the
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: women as girls, you know, like that kind of stuff.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: We're just like, Okay, that's icky, but it's not like
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: so icky that you're just like I can't hang right
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: because again, it's you know, I don't want to say
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: accurate to the time time period, but it you know,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: it makes it more authentic at least, I think.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we get hung up on a lot
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: of things of like we fix that it shouldn't be
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: in a movie anymore. And I'm like, we haven't fixed
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: sexual assault. Re release Thoma and Louise right now, every
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: woman's gonna have something to say about how it's true.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: And men still refer to women as girls as girlmen
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: there grown ass even though they're grown ass women.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: And Daddy's still slept shame your friends, yeah, like, and
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: people still would have judged Marla on her looks. If
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: part of your job was being good looking, Marla would
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: have gotten hired, right, So our looge marluch. She's kind
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: of my favorite, she's the best her and Madonna, oh
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: my gosh, and Rosie's just so fun.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: In listen, Rosie's so fucking fun.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: Why didn't Rosie and Madonna just become a power duo
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: who was in every movie together?
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think that Madonna wanted to because
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: do you remember when she'd come on Rosie's show they
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: had they were friends in real life.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know. Maybe Madonna didn't want to act.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't have to do it all, Harry Styles,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe you shouldn't. I am also still comping with
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  Speaker 1: the movie. The movie still makes me warm and gooey.
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  Speaker 1: It still makes me gough men in all of the
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  Speaker 1: right places. Yeah, Tom Hanks is disgusting and I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love a disgusting, sloppy Tom Hanks.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And Gina Davis is gorgeous and they're all hot. And
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  Speaker 1: Bill Pullman is so fucking fine in that movie, just
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  Speaker 1: like I even feel like they fucked with the lighting
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  Speaker 1: around him so they'd be like, see how gorgeous he is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you can pull off the Bill Pullman,
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  Speaker 2: hiacutie to me, Oh god, I might, Kate, I might
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  Speaker 2: start married.
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  Speaker 1: It's sweater season. I've already told men who have been
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  Speaker 1: putting on their cardigans. I'm like, no, they makes me
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: reconsidered dating man again. Like a fucking cablenit sweater I go. However,
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  Speaker 1: neither one of us is gonna be happy because no
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  Speaker 1: man can penetrate me until I get my bodily autonomy back.
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  Speaker 1: Do you hear me, Congress, No one gets to ejaculate
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  Speaker 1: anywhere near me until I get my bodily autonomy back.
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  Speaker 2: Also, California, we have a bill coming up on the ballot,
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  Speaker 2: a proposition rather that makes keeps it protected in our state,
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  Speaker 2: So you know what to do. California, don't fuck it up.
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  Speaker 1: Don't fuck it up. Don't fuck it up, because I
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  Speaker 1: will make all of California sucks. Starve you. It's my
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  Speaker 2: Lot of people here. It's forty million people in this state.
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  Speaker 1: We suck starve the people who took away our bodily autonomy.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: We suck starve them until they give it back. Jewels.
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  Speaker 1: Tell the people where they can find you friends.
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  Speaker 2: I'm on Instagram. I have a couple the Julia Washington
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  Speaker 2: for book reviews and me just being sometimes a hot
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  Speaker 2: mess or really put together and beautiful. It just depends
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: on the day. If you love of the concept of
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: my show, Pop Culture Makes Me Jealous, where we analyze
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: pop culture through the lens of research, under and sometimes both.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: You can find us on the Gram Pop Culture Makes
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: Me Jealous. This week are dropping a still comfy episode,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: but also teaser because next week we will start kicking
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: off season four where we analyze representation of wealthy women
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: in the media. Yeah, and it's gonna be fun. Natalie
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: is gonna be on. She's on episode three where we
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: talk about the American crime story, the impeachments.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be You're actually.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna be in a lot of episodes with the.
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  Speaker 1: Only one whose I want to be a wealthy woman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the only episode we've officially recorded is the
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: American Crime Story. We're still coordinating all the other.
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  Speaker 1: Recording all times because I went, it'll be fun, We'll
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  Speaker 1: do it in groups, it'll be fun. When I just
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: tried to co produce your show and like, this is
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: what you should do. Yeah, I've had an idea.
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  Speaker 2: You're not the only one. It happens actually a lot.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: I get a lot of people in my dms who
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: are like, I have an idea. I'm like, let me
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: hear it.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: You know, well, you know what I would love for
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: my audience to start doing the work for me. If
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: you have a story of everyday misogyny and you don't
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: want to say it on Instagram or on a hot mic,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: you can DM it to me and I will find
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: someone else who has an adjacent story to yours, and
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: we will do an entire episode about the misogyny that
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: you yourself have experience. Because that's the whole point of to
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: all the men I've tolerated before, that our stories of
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: everyday misogyny get told because we like to pretend that
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: misogyny just is fixed. Like women get to work and vote. Now,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: what more do we want?
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  Speaker 2: If you're in Georgia, oh God, or Mississippi, they're coming
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: They're coming for all of us. The war of women
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  Speaker 1: is secretly gaining ground. Never forget it. It's my life
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: last thought that I think as I fall asleep, and
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: it's the first thought that I think of when I
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: wake up. We are living in a war against women
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  Speaker 1: and them presenting humans and anyone who isn't a white sist,
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  Speaker 1: straight man.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of Everybody needs to go see Bros.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: Go see Bros. I'm sleep on Wednesday, like everybody. Everybody
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: goes Seebros.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: They only made four million dollars opening weekend, and that.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: Probably's hard what Billy Ener tried so hard.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: That movie is fucking perfect and everyone needs to go
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: see it. Everyone needs to go see it. If you
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: claim to be a rom com lover and you haven't
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: seen Bros yet, I know you're going on Wednesday. You
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: told me. I know everyone else. If you claim to
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: be a rom Comm lover and you don't have a
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: ticket to see Bros or haven't seen it yet, you
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  Speaker 2: are failing the system. Go see bros letting perfect. It's
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  Speaker 2: one frozen.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: You're letting the patriarchy win. If you don't see bros,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: you're letting the patriarchy win. If you don't see bros.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Text that to Billy Eichner and Casey wants to make
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: it a T shirt.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing, guys, we all know it is
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: universally understood that When Harry Met Sally is the best
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: rom com of all time. This movie has When Harry
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: Met Sally likeness without being derivative. It's fucking perfect.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: Gootie it. Let me tell you something. Boys get to
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: kiss boys. Girls get to kiss girls. You'll watch it
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: in the movies and sometimes you won't even know if
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: they identify as a boy or a girl, and they
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: get to kiss too in the movies. Everybody gets to
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: kiss in the movies. Everybody gets to make that one
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: of your T shirts. Jewels, Everybody gets to kiss in
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: the movies.
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  Speaker 2: I think I will.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: Anyways, tell the man I'm tolerated. Before is your platform
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: where you get to tell us about it everyday? Misogyny.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Last week we were putting Sean Hunter and Dawson Leary
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: on trial because they treated women badly in the nineties
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: and they needed to pay for their crimes.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: This week, I am doing an episode with a woman
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: who has built her entire career around teaching women like
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: me how to trust themselves, with a special focus on
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: trusting your sexuality and your sexuality ideals. I guess this
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  Speaker 1: is the word I'm going to use, so tune in.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: It's every Thursday. We are on Petreon, we are on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram at men, I've tolerated pod. I am on Instagram
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: and uh TikTok at nabley K one two four. There
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: is no shortage of me on the internet. Last night
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: I told a Fred not to cry that I couldn't
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: go to Trivia on Wednesday because I'm seeing bros And
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: he may miss me, And he said, don't worry. I
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: could always listen to your podcast. I love that and everyone.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow night we'll be on Instagram Live talking about the
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: one and Only one Tree Hill and season two and
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: all of these fuck boys that they've incorporated into my show.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: And we're gonna be on the River Court. So tomorrow night,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: we'll see you on the River Court and stay cozy,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: stay comfy. I almost want to add San Francisco, like
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: I'm fucking will Fare.
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  Speaker 2: On the news or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, stay cozy, stay company.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy the weather, Enjoy the weather. Steak Comfy, Steak Cozy,