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- Lucas: You know that moment when you see a perfect job listing at a company you admire — and then you just close the tab? Because you know your resume is going into a black hole along with two hundred others. Luna: I've done that more times than I want to admit. Lucas: So have I. And the standard advice is 'network your way in,' which sounds nice but doesn't tell you how. So today I want to talk about one specific mechanism: the employee referral. Not just getting one — getting one that actually results in an interview. Luna: And there's real data here. A LinkedIn survey from early 2025 found that referred candidates are five times more likely to get an interview than someone who applies cold. Lucas: Five times. And at companies like HubSpot and Salesforce, referral hires make up close to forty percent of all new roles. That's not a side door — that's the main entrance for a huge chunk of the market. Luna: So why do so many mid-career marketers avoid asking for referrals? I think it's the awkwardness. You're essentially saying 'hey, put your reputation on the line for me.' Lucas: Right, and that fear is real. But I think we overestimate the risk. Most employees get a small bonus — typically one thousand to five thousand dollars — for a successful referral. And they want to help. The trick is making it easy for them. Luna: So let's talk about the mechanics. Who do you ask? Your college roommate who works there? A LinkedIn connection you've never met? Lucas: I'd rank them. Best is a former colleague who knows your work and is still in your corner. Second best is a current employee you've interacted with — maybe you worked on a project together, or you've met at a conference. Third is a warm LinkedIn connection who's offered to help in the past. Luna: And the listener question we got this week actually hits this perfectly. Someone wrote in: 'I want to ask a former colleague who left my company two years ago. We worked together for six months. Is that too distant?' Lucas: Not at all. Six months is enough time to have worked together meaningfully. The key is whether you left a positive impression. If you were reliable and collaborative, that memory lasts. Luna: So how do you approach that? Email? LinkedIn message? Text? Lucas: LinkedIn is fine, but if you have their personal email, use that. Keep it short. Something like: 'Hey X, hope you're doing well. I saw that Y company is hiring for a marketing manager role. I remember us working together on the Z campaign and thought you might be able to vouch for me. Would you be open to chatting about the role and possibly referring me?' Luna: That's good. You're not asking them to lie — you're reminding them of a concrete positive experience. You're also giving them an out: 'would you be open to chatting.' Lucas: Exactly. And if they say yes, you make it even easier for them. Send them your resume, a paragraph about why you're excited about the role, and the job link. Some companies have a referral portal where they just paste your email. Luna: One thing I'd add: don't ask someone you've never met to refer you cold. That rarely works. You need some connection, even if it's just a mutual connection who can introduce you. Lucas: Yeah, cold referral requests are almost always ignored. But if you have a mutual contact, you can ask for a virtual coffee first to build a tiny relationship. Then the ask feels earned. Luna: I want to talk about timing too. If the job's been posted for three weeks, is it too late? Lucas: Not necessarily, but sooner is better. A lot of companies have a referral window — some only accept referrals before the application deadline. At Salesforce, I think referrals are most effective in the first week. But even late, it can still get you past the initial screening. Luna: And what if the referral doesn't lead to anything? Does that burn the relationship? Lucas: No, as long as you're gracious. Send a thank-you note whether or not you get the job. Say something like 'I really appreciate you taking the time to refer me. Even though it didn't work out this time, I'm grateful for your support.' That keeps the door open for the future. Luna: I think that's a great point. And it's worth remembering that the person referring you isn't doing it out of pure altruism — they get a bonus, and they want to help their team grow. Lucas: And honestly, if you've gotten something out of these conversations — a tactic you've actually used, a mindset shift — that's the same kind of thing. A little support goes a long way. If this show has helped you, buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo is where you can throw a couple of dollars in the jar. It genuinely keeps these going ad-free. Luna: Yeah, it's like a referral for the podcast. Same principle. Lucas: Exactly. So back to referrals — one more tactical piece. After you get referred, follow up with a short note to the referrer letting them know you applied and that you're grateful. Then keep them posted on the process. Luna: And don't ask them to check on your application every day. That's the fastest way to annoy someone. Lucas: Right. One update after the interview, then a final thank-you once you know the outcome. That's it. Luna: I also want to mention that some companies have formal referral programs with big bonuses. At Google, I think it's up to two thousand dollars for some roles. So the employee has a real incentive. Lucas: And that's why they're often happy to refer someone they trust. It's low effort for them — they just submit a form — and high reward. For you, it's the difference between being one of two hundred applicants and being one of twenty. Luna: So the takeaway: identify one person in your network who works at a company you're targeting. Reach out with a specific, low-pressure ask. Make it easy. And be grateful regardless of the outcome. Lucas: And if you don't have anyone at your target company yet? Start building those relationships now. Connect on LinkedIn, engage with their content, and eventually you can ask for a brief chat. It's a longer game, but it works. Luna: Alright, that's a solid episode. Next time we'll talk about how to prepare for that referral interview — because getting the referral is just the first step. Lucas: Exactly. Thanks for listening.