Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / The Secret Ingredient to Business Success: Prospecting and Relationships
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show Today we're going to be looking
- 0:04at what kind of sales or business development training
- 0:06you need if you have some serious problems, especially if
- 0:09the business problems are from a lack of poor lead generation.
- 0:14Now I know that there are lots of technical terms here for
- 0:17those of you who are newbies, but don't worry in a couple of
- 0:19seconds we're going to explain what all these big grammar means
- 0:21you know, sales, business development, lead generation,
- 0:24you know blah blah blah. Well, basically the reason why
- 0:26we're doing this is because was inspired by a question that was
- 0:29asked by a podcast listener and his name is Alozi.
- 0:33He commented on Spotify asking about where to get sales
- 0:37training for people who are new in their careers.
- 0:39So I figured I'd devote a couple of episodes just trying to flesh
- 0:42that out, not necessarily to answer the question per SE,
- 0:45where you can get the kind of sales and business development
- 0:48training that you need because obviously I'm here.
- 0:51But to give you a sense of what kind of training would be
- 0:54adequate to whatever situation that you are with.
- 0:57Because in yesterday's episode, we looked at how lots of
- 1:00problems that people get in their businesses, lots of
- 1:03revenue problems as per money is not really coming in.
- 1:06We looked at how your problems could be because you have poor
- 1:09lead generation. So 1 moment.
- 1:11Let me look at my paper. I think I wrote down some stuff
- 1:15from what I recorded yesterday. Let me see.
- 1:18OK. Uh huh.
- 1:19Yeah. So most of the problems can be
- 1:21because of poor lead generation or because poor inbound
- 1:25activities, poor conversions, or poor customer or client
- 1:28retention. Now, if you're a newbie and you
- 1:30don't know what any of these terms mean, then when you're
- 1:32done listening to this episode, just skip back, listen to
- 1:34yesterday's episode. It wasn't wrong like that kind
- 1:36of 15 minutes. So you should be done with it
- 1:38pretty soon. So that's basically what it is
- 1:41that we're going to tackle today.
- 1:42Now before I continue, just to let you guys know, obviously
- 1:45today is going to be a noisy episode because the kids are
- 1:48home. I'm not in the audio booth.
- 1:49Then I'd also like to shout out someone who's been listening to
- 1:52the podcast and you know me and her.
- 1:54We chatted a little bit. Her name is Uho Tu Itodo, sorry
- 1:59for mispronouncing your name. She's Abuja based although she's
- 2:03a binary person like me but she's Edoma and her side hustle
- 2:07is in perfumes and body oils. Her name, again, is Eho Tu.
- 2:13You told her most of her business is done over WhatsApp,
- 2:15so there's no social media handle that I can send you guys
- 2:19to. But it's a perfect example about
- 2:20how people can be involved in business and then forget
- 2:24conventional wisdom and still achieve a certain measure of
- 2:27success. Now, she's only been in the
- 2:29business for 2-3 months, but she has ignored websites, she has
- 2:33ignored Instagram. So she's mostly doing it over
- 2:37one time. But she has two distributors in
- 2:39Abuja and then a bunch of clients here.
- 2:41And there's some people in the office, you know, all together,
- 2:44not a bad start. And I suspect that there are
- 2:47bright things ahead, you know, since she's willing to put in
- 2:51the level of work that is required to move things forward.
- 2:55So thank you very much, Ihuo to Itoto, thank you for listening
- 2:58to the show and also thanks to Alos here for listening and for
- 3:03commenting and for inspiring the podcast episode yesterday and
- 3:07the ones that are going to come for the next couple of days.
- 3:10So back to the main question, what kind of sales training do
- 3:13you need if you have serious problems?
- 3:16And those serious problems stem from poor lead generation?
- 3:21First off, we have to define what the lead is so that the
- 3:23newbies will be with us. Let us be, let us be walking in
- 3:28one step. So the lead basically is just
- 3:33anybody who has taken some kind of action, whether online or
- 3:38offline, on the Internet or in the real world, to show that
- 3:42they might be possibly interested in your product or
- 3:45service. We don't need 100% confirmation
- 3:48that they're good to go. So long as the person has done
- 3:50something to show that they might be interested in your
- 3:53product or your service, then that person is a lead.
- 3:56But of course, that person should have given you some, you
- 4:00know, like some implied permission that you can talk,
- 4:03that you guys can talk later. That person is a lead.
- 4:08So back to that example that I gave in yesterday's episode.
- 4:10Somebody shows up to my son's school sounding out Flyers.
- 4:14Another parent picks the flyer, calls up the person.
- 4:17They say, well, how far I saw your flyer?
- 4:20Do you guys have Ben Tenberg? Do you guys have Superman bag?
- 4:22Do you guys have Batman bag? So in that kind of case, now the
- 4:27person has done something in the real world because the person
- 4:30picked up the phone and then he buzzed you, he called your
- 4:32business and the person has asked about Ben 10, Spider Man
- 4:37and Batman. So it shows that he might be
- 4:40possibly interested in buying a bag or something for his kids.
- 4:44And since the person used his phone to call you, you know, he
- 4:47didn't do number blocking and all those things, it's safe to
- 4:50assume that we have permission to call the guy up later on to
- 4:53say hello, Sir, this is the business that I called
- 4:56yesterday. We thought you were interested.
- 4:59We were supposed to have come on Monday, but we didn't see you
- 5:01again, Sir. So are you still interested how
- 5:04far you know, blah, blah, blah, those kind of phone calls.
- 5:06So in that case, that is a lead because somebody has done
- 5:11something, whether on the Internet by sending you Adm or
- 5:15in the real world, by picking up the phone and calling you or by
- 5:18using their two legs to walk into your store to show that
- 5:21they might be interested in your product or your service and
- 5:24there's some implied permission. They've given you a phone number
- 5:28or they've given an address or they've given something.
- 5:32That is the definition of a lead.
- 5:37Of course, you're going to run into people who have much more
- 5:39technically precise definitions, but for now that is just focus
- 5:43on this simple definition. Anybody was done something that
- 5:47you can see with your own two eyes that they might be
- 5:50interested and he has given you implied permission that you guys
- 5:53can talk shows that he or she might be interested in your
- 5:56product or service. Now, since we know what a lead
- 5:58is, then obviously lead generation is just answering the
- 6:03question, how do I get more people to raise their hands to
- 6:07say that they might be interested in my product or
- 6:09service? Because the more people raise
- 6:12their hands, the more I know who I'm going to pursue.
- 6:16Simple as that. Of course, like I said, you're
- 6:18looking for a technically precise definition of lead
- 6:22generation. Some people will say this is
- 6:24inadequate. But for now, to know enough to
- 6:28start chasing after people, this is all we need to know.
- 6:30Lead generation just means, how would I get more people to
- 6:33signal to raise their hands? So that's it.
- 6:36Now, if lead generation is your problem, you don't know how to
- 6:40get people to raise their hands, to show, to signify to whatever
- 6:45that they're interested in your product or your service.
- 6:47Then what you need is training around three things #1
- 6:53prospecting #2 lead generation #3 relationship building.
- 6:59So let me repeat, if lead generation is your problem, then
- 7:02you need training around prospecting, lead generation and
- 7:06relationship building. Obviously we've, we've already
- 7:09defined what lead generation is. So let's just read that one.
- 7:12Number two is prospecting. Prospecting is any process or is
- 7:18any activity or is any strategy where you are asking yourself
- 7:23the following questions. Who might be interested in my
- 7:26product or my service? Where do these people hang out
- 7:30in the Internet or in the real life?
- 7:33Now that I've found these people, how am I going to start
- 7:35this conversation with the people?
- 7:37And then prospecting includes the process of going out to
- 7:41execute. Because if we sit down with our
- 7:44GPT or sit down with your brother, or sit down with your
- 7:47wife or your husband, or sit down with Popsy or Momsy, or sit
- 7:51down with your business mentor, and you do all this
- 7:53brainstorming, who might be interested?
- 7:55Where can I find them? Which social media do they hang
- 7:58out? Do they attend the ECOE club?
- 7:59Do they attend the Christ Embassy Church?
- 8:02When I find these people, how am I going to start the
- 8:04conversation? If you do all this beautiful
- 8:06brainstorming, but you don't go out and see somebody, you don't
- 8:09pick up the phone, you don't send advertisements, you don't
- 8:11do nothing, then you're just wasted everything.
- 8:14So prospecting is not just the strategy, but prospecting is
- 8:18also the execution. The reason why I'm stressing
- 8:21this strategy and execution is because there are some people
- 8:24who assume that prospecting is mindless activity.
- 8:27Because you see people walking up and down, you know, you're at
- 8:30the mall, you're chilling there with your family, somebody comes
- 8:32and meet you with Flyers and stuff like that.
- 8:33You look at them as if they are daft.
- 8:35You know, they're not really daft.
- 8:37They sat down, they thought at home, what is the best strategy
- 8:40this one might work? And then they head out into the
- 8:41market and nothing is 100%. So they're not daft.
- 8:45So some people think that when you see marketers walking on the
- 8:47street in traffic, you know, hunting our Flyers, just as OK,
- 8:50these people are illiterates. And because of that you don't
- 8:53want to get involved in the activity because you don't want
- 8:55people to look at you as somebody who is illiterate.
- 8:57You don't have anything better to do.
- 8:58So you're in traffic, you're handing out Flyers.
- 9:01So there's strategy involved, there's brain work and then
- 9:05there's also execution. So that is what prospecting is.
- 9:08Figure out who might be interested, figure out where
- 9:10they hang out. The main reason why we need to
- 9:13know whether they hang out is because we now need to know
- 9:15where to reach them. If you think that the people
- 9:17that you're chasing after, the profitable customers, they go to
- 9:20Christ Embassy Church, then you better find a way how to target
- 9:24people who attend Christ Embassy either online or you better buy
- 9:27your bus ticket and head to Benin and attend one of the
- 9:30church services. You know, whatever it is that I
- 9:33need to do to move the business world.
- 9:35By the way, I don't know if Christ numbers, if they have
- 9:36branches in Abuja, Lagos and all over the place.
- 9:38So I'm just asking, Oh, sorry, I haven't mixed it up.
- 9:41That is, that is Oyaki Lome who is in Benin, right.
- 9:45And let me stop here before I offend some people.
- 9:48So that is what where was I? That's what prospecting is now
- 9:53really defined lead generation. Next is relationship building.
- 9:56If lead generation is your problem, you're going to learn
- 9:58prospecting. You're also going to learn
- 10:00relationship building. Now, relationship building has
- 10:03different meanings, especially for people who are in the
- 10:06relationship space. If you're finding boyfriend or
- 10:08you're finding girlfriend, relationship building means
- 10:10something altogether different. But for the purpose of sales and
- 10:16for the purpose of marketing, relationship building just means
- 10:19trying to figure out other people's priorities because that
- 10:25is the only way you are going to close the deal by getting people
- 10:29to buy what they actually want, what they actually need, what
- 10:33they actually desire, and what they can actually afford.
- 10:37So for the level of toasting, relationship building might be I
- 10:41go to a house, I pay higher, visit, I crack some jokes and I
- 10:44buy some gifts. That is relationship building on
- 10:47the level of toasting. But for the level of business,
- 10:52for the level of marketing, for the purpose of sales,
- 10:55relationship building is me. I'm sitting in front of someone,
- 10:58I'm having a conversation with someone, and while we're doing
- 11:02all these chit chat, it looks like casual chat to everybody.
- 11:05I'm actually trying to figure out who is this person?
- 11:08What do they need? What are their priorities?
- 11:10What vision are they trying to achieve?
- 11:12Because if I know that information, I now know how I'm
- 11:15going to be able to align with whatever it is.
- 11:19I'm going to be able to align my product or my service to
- 11:22whatever it is that they're trying to achieve.
- 11:24That's the only way that I'm going to be able to seal the
- 11:26deal. Now, it's important for me to
- 11:28stress this definition of relationship building and how
- 11:31when it comes to business, you're focused on the other
- 11:33person. In fact, when it comes to
- 11:35toasting as well, you actually should be focused on the other
- 11:37person, not on you. It makes it easier to close the
- 11:40deal. But that's a topic for another
- 11:43podcast episode. But the reason why I'm stressing
- 11:45this whole element that it's not about you is because some people
- 11:50think they're doing relationship building by visiting offices, by
- 11:53going here, by going there. You say you're doing
- 11:54relationship building, but every single time you went to all
- 11:57those places, all you did was talk about yourself.
- 11:59If you go to your place and you say, oh, Udogu, blah, blah,
- 12:02blah, how's the family? This and this, that and that,
- 12:04and then immediately you go into Udogu.
- 12:06We now sell this, we now sell this, we now do this, we now do
- 12:10that. We can also do this.
- 12:11We can also do that. That is not relationship
- 12:13building. You're going around and it's
- 12:15just making yourself a nuisance. But if you show up and sell
- 12:17Udogu, how now, How's the family?
- 12:20OK, Your business. And how is business going?
- 12:22Oh, you don't mean it. This deal did not pull through.
- 12:25What happened? Now, what about this?
- 12:26What about that? Yeah, Anyway, don't worry, this
- 12:29won't work out. This won't work out.
- 12:31In fact, if you need any support from me in any way, just let me
- 12:35know. If there's something I can do,
- 12:36I'll do my best and no problem. So, Chief, I just said I agree
- 12:39to you. And then you stand up and you
- 12:40go. Now that is relationship
- 12:41building. You didn't come and make a pitch
- 12:45and say my product does this, my service does this.
- 12:47You came and you spoke to Chief. You find out from Chief what his
- 12:51business is up to. You find out from Chief what
- 12:53problems it is that they are having and things like that.
- 12:55And you've made an offer to be able to be of help later on, in
- 12:59the future, later on during the week.
- 13:02You can now think and say with this problem that Chief is
- 13:05facing and with this problem that Chief is facing, my product
- 13:08or my service or my skill set might be able to help here and
- 13:11here and there and there. So that in two weeks time or
- 13:15three weeks time or one week's time, you cannot call Chief
- 13:17against a handchief. I think we're discussing when I
- 13:20was at your office when you mentioned this and this and that
- 13:22and that. I am thinking that this and this
- 13:25and this should be able to help. This is how I can come in.
- 13:29Of course, if your product or service cannot help, but still
- 13:32you call Chief because you know somebody else who's going to be
- 13:34helpful. I mean, that's that's even good,
- 13:36even make you stand in Chief's eyes like you have enhanced
- 13:39credibility because it's not something that will pay you,
- 13:42that will enter your pocket, but you're trying to hook chief up
- 13:45so they can solve a couple of problems.
- 13:47So that's what relationship building is.
- 13:50It's not about you showing up with gifts and fancy
- 13:52conversation and flattery and or whatnot.
- 13:55So that will work on the level of toasting one-on-one.
- 13:58Besides, if any of you want to build relationships with me,
- 14:01that would work. Show up, flatter me, give me
- 14:04gifts, that's going to work. It will make me very happy.
- 14:07But for the purpose of business, when you're in front of these
- 14:10people and you're trying to build relationship with your
- 14:12customers or your stakeholders, the bubbles are all actually
- 14:15chat and all they're talking back and forth is you're trying
- 14:17to figure out this person, what is their problem?
- 14:20What is their priority? What is their vision?
- 14:23What is their mission? What is their whatever?
- 14:25Where are they heading to? What are they interested in?
- 14:28Because if we have all this information, then we're going to
- 14:30be able to make a convincing proposal at the end of the day.
- 14:35So I will stop here because we are at 15 minutes currently.
- 14:39So tomorrow or future episodes if I'm unable to make tomorrow's
- 14:43episode, we're going to keep discussing these things in more
- 14:46detail. But summary, if you have a
- 14:50serious business problems and I think the problems is because of
- 14:53poor lead generation, then the kind of training you need is
- 14:56need to learn prospecting. How do you go and figure out who
- 15:00might be interested in your product or your service?
- 15:02How do you start conversations with them?
- 15:04Then you need to learn relationship building.
- 15:07Now that you're talking to a bunch of people, how do you
- 15:10figure out what it is that is important to them?
- 15:13What's the thing that choking them?
- 15:14What's the thing that is painting them?
- 15:15What is the thing that they are lost in after the thing that
- 15:17they're desiring after? Because if you know that you're
- 15:21not going to be able to make a good proposal at the end of the
- 15:23day by saying, OK, this thing that you're lost in after my
- 15:26product or my service, this is how it would going to help you
- 15:29achieve this sort of thing. That's what these idiots do.
- 15:33You know, those idiots that I tell you about that, you know,
- 15:35I'm just chilling somewhere. And because I'm big, you know,
- 15:38they assume that I have erectile dysfunction.
- 15:40And then they show up and say, bro, it's eye healing.
- 15:43And it's oh, you buy this one, your waste.
- 15:46No problem. Your this no problem, sugar, you
- 15:49will go down. You know all that, you know, all
- 15:52the toasting that they normally do.
- 15:55So that's just it. They're trying to figure out
- 15:57what kind of problems does this guy have.
- 16:00If this guy's problem is weight loss, then they'll say Bros.
- 16:02This is the one that will give you weight loss.
- 16:05If the guy's problem is that Madame is not happy, they'll say
- 16:07Bros. Take this one, This one will
- 16:09satisfy Madame. If the problem is, let's see
- 16:13what else that the guy has. Pile too much sugar, they'll say
- 16:16Bros, This one will solve pile. That essentially is what sales
- 16:20and relationship building is about.
- 16:23By the way, I'm not saying you should become a roadside Hawker,
- 16:27but I must admit I admire their hustle because every single day
- 16:31they hit the streets, they're playing up and down, and I think
- 16:35they're wrong. The way they go about it, I
- 16:36think it's really wrong because it's kind of an insult to show
- 16:40up to a guy and assume that the guy is having problems with you,
- 16:43understand? But anyway, I admire their
- 16:46hustle. So let me cut it short today.
- 16:49If you'd love to connect with me and explore opportunities, the
- 16:52phone number is 080 64662140. The country code is +234.
- 16:58If you're not Nigerian, If you want to connect with me on
- 17:00LinkedIn, the name to look for establishing my idea.
- 17:03I'm the host of the show. That's where I spend most of my
- 17:05time. Please do not send me messages
- 17:07on Facebook. I check Facebook maybe like once
- 17:09every three months. Do not send me messages on
- 17:13Instagram. You'll hear from me next year,
- 17:15but LinkedIn, you'll hear back from me tomorrow.
- 17:19So thanks for your time and attention.
- 17:20I'll catch you guys at the next episode.