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115. HOW to be both Soft and Strong at the same time 🦋🌸 · She Rises with Ashy & Tijana

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  Speaker 1: Apoge Production.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashley and I'm Tiana.
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  Speaker 1: This podcast is about female empowerment and encouraging you to
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  Speaker 1: be your biggest, boldest, and most authentic version of yourself.
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  Speaker 2: We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone
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  Speaker 2: else is too afraid to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Get ready for your next level of self.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Welcome back to she Rises another Wednesday episode.
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  Speaker 1: We're so excited to be in your ears.
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  Speaker 2: And today it's a beautiful topic. We're talking about how
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  Speaker 2: to be both soft and strong at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: because I think there's this belief that if you're too
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  Speaker 2: soft and too feminine, you won't get anything done, or
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  Speaker 2: you won't be able to say no. All the other way,
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  Speaker 2: if you're too assertive and strong and hard, that you
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  Speaker 2: can't be soft and inviting and flowy and all that beautiful,
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  Speaker 2: juicy energy that we all know and love when you're
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  Speaker 2: in your feminine.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's interesting as well because it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: this belief that you can only be one way, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: only one thing, Like you're either super in your masculine energy,
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  Speaker 1: you're super in your feminine you're super flowy, So we
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  Speaker 1: want to have that conversation today to help you kind
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  Speaker 1: of balance those energies out and to really anchor into
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  Speaker 1: how you can be both assertive but also be strong
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  Speaker 1: and soft as well.
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  Speaker 2: When you can blend both. You were so powerful. I
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  Speaker 2: had this one girlfriend who lived in Vegas. She was
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  Speaker 2: called the Ladies Coach on Instagram and Nam's Crystal Fointees,
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  Speaker 2: and I was just always so drawn to her, And
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  Speaker 2: now I can understand why, So let me explain it.
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  Speaker 2: I met her at a Tony Robin's event, and yet energetically,
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  Speaker 2: I just like felt this pull of wanting to talk
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  Speaker 2: to her, But I also felt really intimidated by her
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  Speaker 2: because I just put her on a pedestal. Everything we're
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  Speaker 2: about to talk about she was that. She was the
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  Speaker 2: most fiercely strong, powerful, opinionated, not even loud, but her
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  Speaker 2: energy felt really big.
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  Speaker 1: It was like a bold energy.
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  Speaker 2: Bold that's a good word. But then at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: she had this softness where you just felt safe and
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  Speaker 2: you could tell her anything and you trusted her immediately.
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  Speaker 2: But like I could unload and ask for her advice,
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  Speaker 2: and I always was confused. Now I've got more awares now,
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  Speaker 2: but confused of how you could be both because I
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  Speaker 2: think I was running more on the masculine and strong
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  Speaker 2: get shit done. I've got everyone, and I can take
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  Speaker 2: care of everyone financially or help them with their work.
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  Speaker 2: I was more on that side. But to see someone
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  Speaker 2: be able to do both and blend them at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, I was like, hell, and there's not many
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  Speaker 2: women that I have met in my life that can
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  Speaker 2: do both of that. I feel like I either have
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  Speaker 2: women that are quite in their masculine and their hustle
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  Speaker 2: eraror and like getting shit done, or they're the other
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  Speaker 2: way and they're super flowy and feminine, but they're almost
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  Speaker 2: too far that way that they're not getting stuff done
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  Speaker 2: and they're they're feeling frustrated they're not getting stuff done
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  Speaker 2: and you know, being taken advantage of or can't say no,
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  Speaker 2: and they're wanting to be a people pleaser. But someone
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  Speaker 2: that can blend both is so beautiful, And that's been
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  Speaker 2: a goal of mine, is how can I bring both
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  Speaker 2: of those in? And I think there is skill to it.
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  Speaker 2: There is, there's a lot of skill and awareness around it.
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  Speaker 2: So let's talk about it. So I think we need
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  Speaker 2: to challenge the belief. I've got these notes, want to
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  Speaker 2: read it out, challenging the belief that's strength equals hardness
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  Speaker 2: and softness equals weakness. That's not true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting, hey, because it's like when you
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  Speaker 1: are more like the hardness, it feels a little bit
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  Speaker 1: like rigid almost, Yeah, rigid, Like you almost are like
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  Speaker 1: a fortress where like emotionally you're not super connected to
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  Speaker 1: yourself and maybe a lean more like logical and you're
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  Speaker 1: really in your head and you're making logical decisions, but
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  Speaker 1: you don't feel as connected to your central feminine flow,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But it's almost like you have to be
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  Speaker 1: rigid and firm and super strong on your boundaries and
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  Speaker 1: there's almost like no adaptability.
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  Speaker 2: Flexibility, no fluidity.
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  Speaker 1: H I never get that right, And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: a really interesting thing what you mentioned before, Like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of women really do get stuck in that, whether
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  Speaker 1: it be in relationships, whether it be trying to step
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  Speaker 1: into a more sea or role in their work and
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  Speaker 1: their careers. Because we do have to operate in that energy,
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  Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean you have to be that all
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  Speaker 1: the time. No, And I think that's what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: It is like learning how to build that skill of
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  Speaker 1: being able to switch from that more masculine energy to
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  Speaker 1: feminine energy.
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  Speaker 2: There's a time and place for both, and it is
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  Speaker 2: about feeling into when the right time is to be
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  Speaker 2: in both energies as well. I know when I'm at work,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we she rises, it's different. I feel
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  Speaker 2: we blend both really well. We are very flowy and
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  Speaker 2: feminine and it's very from the heart and we've got
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  Speaker 2: a big purpose in it. But we also have things
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  Speaker 2: that have deadlines, we have things we need to get done,
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  Speaker 2: and both are led really well. But I think previously
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  Speaker 2: in business, I've been all of my masculine and then
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  Speaker 2: when I close down Baseline and I wanted to slow
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  Speaker 2: down and focus on my health. Even actually, when I
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  Speaker 2: had Baseline, I felt like I was separating the energies.
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  Speaker 2: At work, I was masculine. Once I came home, I
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  Speaker 2: was feminine. But I like blending both. Even being parenting,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's quite masculine. These little people are
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  Speaker 2: relying on you to survive. You have to be on
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  Speaker 2: all the time. But bringing a feminine flow into the
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  Speaker 2: way that your parent is really beautiful. You can be
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  Speaker 2: strong and have boundaries with your children, but you can
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  Speaker 2: also do it in a really soft, loving, fluid way.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be one way or the other.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I'm trying to blend that in all
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  Speaker 2: areas of my life. So in my relationship, I'm strong
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  Speaker 2: on my boundaries. I know what I want, I'm very
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  Speaker 2: clear on that, but I deliver it in a really
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  Speaker 2: soft tone. Now I deliver it in a way that's
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  Speaker 2: bringing us together and it's connecting, not rules of like
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  Speaker 2: this is how you have to be.
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  Speaker 1: You have to change.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's your fault. I'm over here, you know, on
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  Speaker 2: my high horse. It's it's like blending both in there.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what I've always really admired with Crystal is
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  Speaker 2: how she's done that.
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  Speaker 1: Beautiful. Let's explod I want to explore this a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So like when you were mentioning Baseline and the difference
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  Speaker 1: between She Rises and Baseline, what do you think is
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  Speaker 1: the difference between how you show up now versus how
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  Speaker 1: you should have then?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I felt like with Baseline, I felt so much
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  Speaker 2: weight on my shoulders and it was very like numbers driven,
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  Speaker 2: like we had to be selling a certain amount of clothes.
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  Speaker 2: We had to be hitting numbers to pay the wages
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  Speaker 2: and to get things done. And yes, there was the
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  Speaker 2: creativity of the clothing. And I loved the marketing and
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  Speaker 2: the storytelling and putting meaning behind the word baseline. I
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  Speaker 2: want a women wore baseline to when they put the
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  Speaker 2: clothes on, to think about where their baseline was in
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  Speaker 2: all areas of their life, especially their health and fitness,
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  Speaker 2: and where can they raise it. There was still story
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  Speaker 2: and purpose behind it, but I felt as the business
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  Speaker 2: went on it was like once we hit one goal,
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  Speaker 2: it was like onto the next, and it kind of
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  Speaker 2: lost that feeling of what the purpose of it was.
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  Speaker 2: Whereas with She Rises, I think it started off with
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  Speaker 2: such a passion project. It still feels like that because
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  Speaker 2: it's so heart led. Like when we do any project,
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  Speaker 2: even the physical product we've got coming out, our live events,
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  Speaker 2: our mini events, our retreat it's so heart led. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: how do we make impact on this? How do we
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  Speaker 2: bring connection? How do we make this more expansive, how
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  Speaker 2: do we make this more fun? Any tasks that we
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  Speaker 2: have to do that we're like, oh, who don't want
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  Speaker 2: to do this? How do we make this more playful.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna put music on, We're going to have this
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  Speaker 2: little dance, we're going to film with tiktog the I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna get stuck into this.
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  Speaker 1: And get it done.
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  Speaker 2: It's heart led, it's purposeful, and it's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: play and fun. But we're still getting shit done and
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  Speaker 2: we hit our deadlines and we're achieving goals and we're
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  Speaker 2: doing all of that. So I feel like the blend
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  Speaker 2: is just so beautiful. It feels it comes from a
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  Speaker 2: different place. Yeah, Yeah, that's so beautiful it is. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like it makes a whole lot of difference when
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  Speaker 2: it is heart led.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And with that other role, it was like, maybe yes,
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  Speaker 1: there was a still purpose and really deep intention in this.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like this last year for you especially,
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  Speaker 1: has been really about coming into what feels really good
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  Speaker 1: for you and making sure that you are living a
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  Speaker 1: life that you were proud of and doing the things
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  Speaker 1: that you want to be doing. Whereas, like with Baseline
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  Speaker 1: and running a team, that was a very masculine thing
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  Speaker 1: for you, but it wasn't necessarily what you wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be doing or love doing. Is like running a team.
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  Speaker 2: And I wanted to grow the business and then when
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  Speaker 2: I went through all the transition of my brain surgeries
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  Speaker 2: and everything, I was reflecting and thinking, I'm like, for
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  Speaker 2: what growing it? For what? And I couldn't answer it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what to get a bigger team, to get more money,
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  Speaker 2: to be one of the biggest brands out there? For what?
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  Speaker 2: What does that bring me? It doesn't bring me more
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  Speaker 2: happiness in my home. It doesn't make my heart grow bigger. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it made impact, but not in a way that I
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  Speaker 2: knew I wanted to, or I knew that could really
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  Speaker 2: impact women's lives like close are great and they make
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  Speaker 2: them feel confident, And I don't regret any of it.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. But it's so different to how this feels.
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  Speaker 2: This feels from a really strong feminine space of leadership
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  Speaker 2: and softness all in one.
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  Speaker 1: And so would you say that doing things from a
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  Speaker 1: place of purpose and really finding things that light you
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  Speaker 1: up helps you anchor more into your feminine It.
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  Speaker 2: Does, But there's strength in that feminine. It's not the
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  Speaker 2: wishy washy Yeah. I don't know how to say.
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  Speaker 1: It's both.
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  Speaker 2: It's both.
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  Speaker 1: Did you say when you are passion lead, purpose driven? Heart?
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  Speaker 2: Lad, it's both energies combined and that's why it works.
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  Speaker 2: That's why it works. You just hit the nail on
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  Speaker 2: the head. This wouldn't work if it was all in
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  Speaker 2: our feminine We weren't honoring our masculine energy because it
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't get anything done.
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  Speaker 1: Yet, would you just sitting around in pink track? He's
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  Speaker 1: doing ithing?
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  Speaker 2: Literally, And if it was all led by masculine women,
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't connect and feel our purpose and our softness and
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  Speaker 2: feel safe to bring in their best to your advice
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  Speaker 2: and to ask us questions and to trust us to
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  Speaker 2: pay three thousand dollars to come to a retreat in Bali.
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  Speaker 2: That's why this works. That's why we're doing all the
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  Speaker 2: things we're doing. That's why it's been so effortless. That's
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  Speaker 2: why I haven't heard it worded like that. That feels really.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it was. Don't you agree. That's why it works
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  Speaker 2: because both energies are blended so goodfully, I'm lost for work.
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  Speaker 2: This is an internal conversation that we probaly should have
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  Speaker 2: had behind closed doors, but it's just let us Sofia.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I love. I love the off the
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  Speaker 1: cusp of conversations that's where you get the most raw
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  Speaker 1: of what we talk about day to day. And it
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  Speaker 1: is true because when you are heart led, it makes
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  Speaker 1: being in your masculine easier, and it makes being in
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  Speaker 1: your feminine softer. It makes you crave to be in
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  Speaker 1: your feminine more. But the more that you integrate your
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  Speaker 1: masculine energy, which is your structure, your responsibility, being consistent,
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  Speaker 1: your discipline, showing up for yourself, a love it evil
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  Speaker 1: for yourself, yes, right, creating your internal liability. You create that,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm mimicking my hands right now to create like
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  Speaker 1: a container. When you create that masculine wall, in that foundation,
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  Speaker 1: your feminine flows within that and all you want to
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  Speaker 1: do is wear little pink butterfly clips and wearing outfits
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  Speaker 1: and you really feminine life.
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  Speaker 2: It feels good. And isn't that the beautiful thing in
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  Speaker 2: a relationship too, When there's both the masculine, femine and
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  Speaker 2: polarity and both of them flow, Oh my god, that's
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  Speaker 2: magic because you need both. You need both.
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  Speaker 1: That's the yin and the yang energy.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not saying a masculine is all in. The
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  Speaker 2: masculine and feminine all and the feminine both need both
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  Speaker 2: energies to be able to flow them all in together.
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  Speaker 2: It's like this beautiful dance.
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  Speaker 1: You know, even in relationships, a man can only meet
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  Speaker 1: a feminine to the degree he's met his own feminine key,
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  Speaker 1: So he can only hold your emotions, Steve right, he
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  Speaker 1: can only hold your emotions to the depths that he's
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  Speaker 1: held his own emotionally. And then for the woman, it's
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  Speaker 1: you can only meet him intellectually to the degree that
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  Speaker 1: you know you haven't met yourself intellectually, or that you
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  Speaker 1: can meet yourself in your own logic, and that's the balance.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Such a good, cool conversation. This is a really cool
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  Speaker 1: conversation to have in terms of relationships because when a
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  Speaker 1: woman is in her healthy masculine and it is rooted
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  Speaker 1: in being able to voice boundaries, to be able to communicate,
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  Speaker 1: to be able to stand up for what she believes in,
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  Speaker 1: or voice behavior that she doesn't like, but does it
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  Speaker 1: in a really soft way. I feel like that is
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  Speaker 1: what creates the polarity in a relationship, right, because when
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  Speaker 1: you are too soft in a relationship, it's so easy
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  Speaker 1: for you to be walked all over. Then when you're
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  Speaker 1: too hard in a relationship, then the polarity dies and
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  Speaker 1: little bit connection to Yeah, because there's no room for
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  Speaker 1: the man to be masculine. Yes, because you're taking on
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  Speaker 1: that role. And so I just think it's a really
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  Speaker 1: beautiful conversation to be able to have to learn how
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  Speaker 1: to do that, and you have to be willing to
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  Speaker 1: push the edges of what feels comfortable, especially as a woman.
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  Speaker 1: We're so familiar and so used to tiptoeing and walking
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  Speaker 1: on eggshells and being skinned.
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  Speaker 2: Like everyone'm happy put everyone else for us, Please keep
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  Speaker 2: the harm and be the piece maker. Yeah, Yeah, be
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  Speaker 2: the peace maker. We don't want to create conflict or
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  Speaker 2: to be combative or to challenge people. But I think
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  Speaker 2: that's a really necessary part of the journey. Like we
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  Speaker 2: have to be willing to stand in that, and that
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  Speaker 2: comes from a place of self respect. It does, because
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  Speaker 2: it's being strong in who you are, but doing it
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  Speaker 2: in a really feminine way. That's exactly right. You're still strong,
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  Speaker 2: you're not weak for how boundaries and being strong, but
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  Speaker 2: you're doing it in a soft, feminine, safe way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can be strong, but you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to be rude. Yes, you can be strong, but you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to be disrespectful. Yeah, exactly. This is the
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  Speaker 1: conversation that kind of needs to be had because I
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  Speaker 1: think people correlate being strong with being combative, disrespectful, rude,
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  Speaker 1: too much, too cold, selfish, all of those negatives. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: when actually it's not that at all. It's just the
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  Speaker 1: way that you approach the situation a having situation.
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  Speaker 2: And that's done in a tone. Also your body language.
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  Speaker 1: As well everything. Yeah, how kind you are, how self
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  Speaker 1: you are, how respectful you are of that person moment there. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to have a conversation. Can we do
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  Speaker 1: this together? Yeah, as opposed to you did this and
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  Speaker 1: you did that, like is different. You're going to have
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  Speaker 1: a very different experience.
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  Speaker 2: That's beautifully said. Something else too, that we've got written
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  Speaker 2: down here, softness makes us quote unquote too emotional. We've
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  Speaker 2: been taught to tough enough if you want to be
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  Speaker 2: taken seriously. I think this is really true in this
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  Speaker 2: day and age too, when we're trying to be CEOs
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  Speaker 2: and boss babes and take lead. When we do that,
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  Speaker 2: it comes at the cost of suppressing our feminine energy
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  Speaker 2: and ignoring our intuition. Then we get resemful and we
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  Speaker 2: don't feel happy and we don't feel fulfilled because we've
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  Speaker 2: been taught that to be that certain way, we have
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  Speaker 2: to like push aside what truly feels right fast.
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  Speaker 1: That's so true, isn't it. It is, And it's a
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  Speaker 1: really hard thing to do, being the CEO, being the hustler,
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  Speaker 1: being there. But then it's like neglecting.
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  Speaker 2: Rest exactly at what costs.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to rest or If I rest, then
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  Speaker 1: I'm lazy or I'm trying to be in the very
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  Speaker 1: sea or driven energy. It's like, well, now there's no
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  Speaker 1: space in that, and you completely shut that out entirely, and.
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  Speaker 2: You create a story that if I rest, then I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to get everything done, so then I won't
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  Speaker 2: be successful. Then I won't be able to be this
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  Speaker 2: year boss, babe.
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  Speaker 1: It's so true. Such a spiral, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: You're spiraling to burn out? Yeah, good to anyone.
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  Speaker 1: Especially it'll come around every four weeks when your period
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  Speaker 1: comes away the silent very strongly.
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  Speaker 2: We literally are going to get someone on to talk
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  Speaker 2: about different phase of our cycle, because holy molly, it's
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  Speaker 2: the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: It's so important.
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  Speaker 2: Where your core out first. Probably most of you in
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: your feminine. But where's it showing up and is it
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: showing up in a positive way or a negative way?
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Are you able to blend them both? Or do you
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: feel resistance when we say any of this, And if
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: you feel any resistance or any triggers and be like,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: oh no, that's not right for me or whatever, like,
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: explore that because there's something there for you, because there's
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: something there for all of us when we talk about this.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: I want to go home and journal on it and
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: see what else comes up for me.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: I would love to know how in the past you
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: have felt when you've operated predominantly in your masculine energy
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: versus how you feel when you're predominantly in your feminine energy,
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Like what states are you in? What kind of headspace
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: are you in? How do you feel when you're in
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: opposing energies and not both.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: I definitely had a story that women that are two
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: in their feminine don't get anything done. Yeah, And I
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: was really fearful of that because I've been out of
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: home since I was like just on sixteen. I've worked
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: since I was thirteen. I've operated from a place of
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: the story that I needed to take care of myself
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: and makes it to happen. I've got great work ethic
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: and it served me. I wouldn't be where I am
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: today if I didn't have that mindset and that masculine energy.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: So I really love that about me. But as I've
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: grown and become a mother and been through burnout stages,
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: I've seen that it also can be too far one
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: way or the other. So I've enjoyed it when I'm
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: in it because I've achieved so much and I set
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: goals and I've got them done. I got to experience
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: so many things, and I've been able to provide for
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: people and help people, and that was always really beautiful.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: So would you say it stopped you from fearing that
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: it might make you quotations lazy? Yeah, sake, it definitely
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: made you fearful of stepping into your feminine energy.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Wor so so scared. And I never wanted to be
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: appear to be lazy or a failure. I didn't want
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: to rest, and I also want to rest because being
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: masculine and being busy and getting shit done meant I
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: didn't have to feel what was underneath all of it.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: And I remember Megsie talking about this often over the
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: last five years. Of how she notices when women are
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: really busy that they're distracting. And I had a lot
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: of resistance around it, and I honestly wasn't until I
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: got diagnosed with my brain anergism that I still and
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: reflected and it hit me like a fucking tsunami. I
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: was like, wow, I can see how being busy served
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: me to distract me away from what was going on underneath.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: And I got to question everything. I did question everything.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: That's why my life has changed so much in the
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: twelve months, which is really beautiful. So yeah, I love
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: both energies, but I definitely don't want to operate predominantly
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: in one or the other. There's different times and places
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: that I operate from both, and I like blending both together.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Having this conversations made me realize, I think I've gotten
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: really good at it having both there.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel like I do that really well.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel super masculine or super feminine when
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: I get home. For example, we joke about it, but like,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: if Steve's there, you bet your I'm too weak to
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: carry the groceries. When I come home from the groceries,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: he straight away comes out and carries all the groceries
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: for me. If he's not there, you bet your I'm
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: up for the challenge to do one load and one
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: load only.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: We're not coming back for a secondary for a second. Yeah,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: one and done.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: When he's around, I'm like a soft little baby. Ye
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: take fucking care of me.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: He should be.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Even last night, we've got these two sheds out the
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: side of our house and it was cold. I was like, Bait,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: can you go get my suitcase. He's like yeah, wow.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, it's just really cold, and he's been
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: got it for me. But he's laughing, like too cold
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: for you, baby cold?
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: You know he loves it.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: He's like, let me take care of you. You know
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: it's so funny. I'm like that with my dad and
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: my dad down, I feel like I'm his little girl. Yeah,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: he's around, and you know it's funny. I worked on
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: site doing carpentry for five years. Yeah, I'm a qualified
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: trade qualified carpenter. Yeah, and I did it for five
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: years working on site, and I worked for my dad. Yeah,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: he knows I'm very well, capable, very capable, But I
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: still I'm his little girl when he's around.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love being in that and he loves taking
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: care of you too, absolutely, like little things like hey, darling,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I filled your petrol up. Yeah, thank you dad.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Oh my, so nice, beautiful, just interesting. You know what?
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: And that comes down to feeling safe with the masculine.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Isn't it because of the moment you're not carrying shame.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the moment you feel safe with the masculine, immediately
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: you're dropping into that feminine. Yeah, because you know consciously
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and unconsciously that that man has got you. Yeah. You
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: don't have to step up into the role because you
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: don't trust his leadership. Yeah, you automatically go, No, I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: trust his leadership, He's gone. Yeah.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I used to have a story too. Now I don't
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: know why that spiked at them, but I used to
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: have a story too that if I was asking, even
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Steve were like any man to do something, I then
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: created a story that I was a failure, that I
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: couldn't do it. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, where do you think
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: that came from? I think just from having to learn
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: how to do things for myself. Yeah, not ever relying
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: on a man, because I'd never had a safe masculine
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: growing up. So yeah, leaving home so early and needing
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: tovent for myself.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I suppose.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just felt like if I couldn't do it
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: and I needed a man, that I was weak. I
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: wanted to know that I could always take care of myself.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: But it's like now I know I can, but I
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: don't want to.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want you.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: To take care of it.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: It's interesting I had the opposite thing so I experienced.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Like my dad, He's very much been there for me,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: yes throughout, like growing up and stuff like that, but
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I did create a belief that I couldn't do anything
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: without my dad, so I had to Yeah. So it's
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: like I had to learn one how to get rid
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: of that. But anytime I tried to do something, I'd
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: be like, oh see, I can't do it. And then
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, Dad, I need help. Yeah you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I mean coming in and help you, come in and
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: help out. But he would always be my savior, and
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: for as long as I had that savior, I never
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: learned how to do anything on my own. And it
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't until I started my own business did I have
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: to learn how to figure it out on my own.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: And it's not that he didn't support me through it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: He just wasn't coming in saving me when it a
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: shit got really hard, you know, So I think that
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: was something I had to unlearn, that belief of like,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not capable unless he helps me, because I can't
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: do it on my own. And then when you build
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: that belief that you can do it on your own,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: life changes because you can be supported, but you can
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: also support yourself too. That's a really important thing I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: think every woman needs to learn.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's even little things around the house, like you know,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of women are like I have
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: to clean up after my partner data. They're not capable.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: They are ca They're very capable, but like I like
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: to take care of my men in that way, Like
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I like to do those little things. It feels feminine
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: to nurture and to be the caretaker and to help
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: him relax after a hard day. They're very capable.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: And you know what as well, even with those things,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: it's like that might feel really good for you, but
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: for another woman that might feel like, oh, I don't
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: really want to do that, true, you know what I mean.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: So it's like that's.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Dependent on each woman and how.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: You've relationship dynamic.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how you feel good nurturing. Yes, and it's just
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: getting to know what that looks like for you, so
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: good or bad or wrong. If it doesn't feel good
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: for it, doesn't feel good for you. But if it does,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: do that, explore what that looks like for you.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I love this conversation.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Me too. It's so fun. Let's do a little role play.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, I feel like you're really good at this.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I'm scared now if someone comes to you and ask
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: you to do something that you really don't want to do,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: could you give an example of what a healthy feminine
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: would say? And maybe not unhealthy, but if feminine that's
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: not anchored in who she is and is scared to
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: ruffle feathers or say no, can you give examples of
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: both how you'd reply, hay Tis, I'm moving house this weekend.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Can you come help me for a few hours to
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: packle my house up? Like I just yeah, it's gonna
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: be a big day. Can you come help me?
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Honestly, the first thing, without actually thinking, the first thing
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: that came to my mind would be the unintegrated feminine
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: would probably be either say yes and be super passive aggressive.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, so it'd be like oh, I'll say yes
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: and be resempful.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah theah okay, So like they would probably say yes
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and do the people pleasing thing. You would know about it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: You would know that they're not happy about it.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: So give me an example, the tone, the energy, the words,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: what would that look like, just so women can like
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: they're listening, they can look out for that next time
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: and see if they do that and behave like that.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: It would probably be like huffing and puffing like oh
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: yeah when yeah, you know, like how long is it
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: going to take?
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Is it going to take long? I've got you to do,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I've got things to do, like I don't know, Yeah,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: of course we will help you. Yeah, it's fine, yes, okay.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: It's very passive, aggressive and very does the energy behind
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: me saying yes, but you know that don't want to
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: do it. And then what will lead up after that
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: is probably a lot of punishment, okay, of like, oh,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: in the huffing and puffing and you'll.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Not for you, I really didn't want to do it,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: that's right, okay.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Whereas like somebody who I believe was in their feminine,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: who was strong in their boundaries, would probably be like,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so excited that you're going to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: be moving. That's amazing. I don't think I'm going to
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: be able to help you in this because I have
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: X y Z. However, what I can do is, you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I might pop in in the afternoon. I'll bring you
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: all lunch.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: And the beautiful thing about that is, with boundaries, it's
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: a lot about feeling what feels good for you. So yes,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: it's letting them know in a really soft and gentle way,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I'm unable to help you with this. But then it's
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: meeting them in the middle and going, but you know what,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: this time I can do. So it's like you might
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: not be able to help them move, but that night
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: you might go when you buy them a housewarming gift.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, so they still feel loved and taken care of.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: You feel good, You've honored yourself, You're still caring for them.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: It's like the beautiful lend that's right.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's all I had off the time.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: No, that's perfect. Okay, cool, that's perfect. I love that. Alrighty. Well,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: we hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. I really love
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: talking about masculine femin energy. I'd actually love to get
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: like a female expert on this love. Yeah, a female expert,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: maybe a male expert to hear the different perspectives because
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: it's a really important conversation. And even though I've done
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of learnings around this and you've done a lot,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: like I still learn a lot from you. There's always
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: more ways to learn or different perspectives or examples that
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: people can give that we can expand on this.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I would love to learn more, and I would love
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: to have a male and a female because I think
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: having a female perspective and a male perspective is very important. Yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: so we should do that.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: But if anyone knows anyone that specializes in this, this
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: is their niche just to what they talk about, maybe
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: they coach people in it, let us know. Pop it
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: into our she Riser's Facebook forum and we'd love to
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: get the one as guests.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Also, if you have anything that you need a little
• 23:43
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• 23:45
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• 23:51
  Speaker 1: you're struggling to balance the masculine and feminine energies, or
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you're feeling like, oh, I'm too hard or I'm too
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: soft and I need a little bit of guidance. Yeah,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: pop it in there and we'll be happy to answer
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: your questions and then we can expand on this conversation.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that link will be in the description box below.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Otherwise once again in our Facebook forum, or you can
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: pop them do our dams as well. But this is
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: something you also help a lot of your clients with, right, Yeah,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: it's a common thing that kind of comes in. Can
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: you talk about how you coach people through this?
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so predominantly around relationships, So that's kind of the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: strong suit, right, because it really shows up in our
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: intimate relationships. And so obviously it's dependent on the situation
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: or what they're going through. But I have a lot
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: of women come to me who really find themselves feeling
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: quite disconnected from their partners and they don't really know
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: what's happening in the relationship. So they're going, you know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: he's doing this, and they're super focused on the man's
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: behavior but not really aware of how they're contributing to it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: And so what I get my clients to focus on
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: is to really go within instead of always worrying about
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: what the man is doing, going okay, what can I control?
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And we help them go within and go, okay, let's
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: audit all of your behavior, the way that you show up,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: how you speak to them, how you communicate, how you
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: feel in your own body, and how connected you are
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: your pleasure. And then we go, okay, let's revamp this,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and so we reinvent them from inside out and then
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: it only comes out tenfold in the relationship. And I've
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: had a client of mine who's been with her partner
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: for fourteen years and we work together for a couple
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: of years, and she has completely transformed her communication, not
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: only in her parenting skills with her children, but with
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: her partner. She's like, we are the best that we
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: have ever been. And it's so powerful because she's like,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known how to do this without these
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: new communication tools, or without softening myself and not being
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: in my head all the time. And that's why this
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: work is so powerful. That's awesome.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Do you find that kind of work someone needs to
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: work with you for a couple of years, because I
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: know that, like you, lately, you've had some clients You've
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: got like a new package deal at the point where
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: you have a phone call with them and then you
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: work with them through Voxer, which is like a voice
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: message kind of app. Do you find to work on
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: this stuff? It can be something that is resolved and
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you can get a lot of results in a week.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Or is this more of a long term container?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, it depends. So the clients of mine who
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: have stayed with me for years are more because they
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: love the work. They're like, oh my god, I've grown
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: growth seekers. They're growth seekers right, They're like, oh my god,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I want to be plugged into this. I want bro
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I want to be the best version of myself. And
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: then they stay and stay and stay. It's a conscious choice.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: You don't need years for this stuff to work. And
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: like what you were mentioning, I do have a new
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: offer where we can just do one call and then
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you get five days of boxer support as well. And
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: it's basically a deep dive on one specific problem within
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: your self worth or your relationship and how that might
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: be showing up in your relationship. So this is like
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: very an isolated problem for us to go cool, let's
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: work through this together. You get support after that and
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I'll help you integrate it, and then you get to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: go on and like continue implementing that in your life.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I just love that because I had a friend of
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: a friend of mine that I put onto you because
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: she'd had this massive blow up with her partner about
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: this specific topic that kept coming up in their relationship,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: and she booked that with you. Had the one call,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: so you got to know everything about the situation. Then
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: for the next five days, she was so plugged into
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: you and like worked through something that she had struggled
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: for the last ten years in her relationship. And I
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: was like, remember, you're telling me about it, and I
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: knew about it because it was my friend and you're
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: my friend, so it was okay to talk about. But
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I was like, wow, it blows my mind how much
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: can be done in one week of full plug in
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: and support and focusing on your own stuff. And it
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  Speaker 2: was really powerful to watch her transform and like that's
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  Speaker 2: changed her whole relationship just with a week of work.
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  Speaker 1: He'd be really surprised, or how much you can grow
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  Speaker 1: and overcome within a short period of time. It's almost
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  Speaker 1: this belief when it comes to personal development work that
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  Speaker 1: it has to be this long slow burn. It's not
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  Speaker 1: that you just either you don't have the right information,
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  Speaker 1: you're not looking at the correct problem for what you're
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  Speaker 1: looking for, you don't understand how to resolve it. So
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  Speaker 1: when you don't know those three things, it makes it
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  Speaker 1: really hard to actually achieve it and overcome it. But
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  Speaker 1: you can see growth and change within yourself how you
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  Speaker 1: show up and how you interact with your partner or
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  Speaker 1: your intimate relationships really quickly when you know the right tools.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're getting asked the right question, You've got
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  Speaker 2: the right support. Right girlfriends, we talk about things all
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  Speaker 2: day every day. We're constantly growing and learning together. But
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  Speaker 2: if you don't have that around, it's so cool that
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  Speaker 2: you offer something like that. So if anyone wanted to
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  Speaker 2: book that with you or getting more information, did they
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  Speaker 2: just go to your Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just head to my Instagram and it'll be
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  Speaker 1: my link in my bio. You can focus session in there.
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  Speaker 1: You'll see it options there. You just head to Tiana
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  Speaker 1: U n d A l O, and it'll be the
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  Speaker 1: feel like you don't know which one you want to
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  Speaker 1: choose which option will be best for you can just
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  Speaker 1: send me a dam when we can chat about it.
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  Speaker 2: It's so cool, so many cool options, and trust me,
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  Speaker 2: it's very good having a best his life cash. I
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  Speaker 2: get plugged into this all the time, but I want
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  Speaker 2: to talk about that because even at out she Rises DMS,
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  Speaker 2: there's so many questions coming through and women that don't
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  Speaker 2: have support if in our best you advice, like they're
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  Speaker 2: stuck in these cycles with their relationships, and it's like
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  Speaker 2: there is support for that, there is help for that,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just really cool. So thank you for your
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  Speaker 2: work because it only helps me, but I know it
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  Speaker 2: helps so many other women as well.
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  Speaker 1: So powerful. Yeah, we'll see you on the next episode.
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