Latest / The Burnout Podcast with Fexingo: Workplace Exhaustion, Recovery, and Sustainable Careers / Burnout and the Loss of Your Workday Pause
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- Lucas: So earlier this week I was timing myself between back to back calls, and I realized I had about ninety seconds of dead air — no meeting, no email, just me staring at the wall. And instead of feeling like a gift, it felt almost uncomfortable, like I'd been caught doing nothing. Luna: That's the burnout talking, right? When you're so wired into constant output that any gap feels like a failure. Lucas: Exactly. And it got me thinking about how burnout reshapes our relationship with the pause — those tiny gaps in the workday that we used to take for granted. The two minutes between calls, the walk to the printer, just staring out the window. They're not distractions. They're actually part of how our brains recover. Luna: You know, before we get into this, I want to mention something to our listeners. If you've found yourself nodding along to what we talk about on this show — whether it's about burnout or the small ways we try to make work more sustainable — that's exactly the kind of connection we want to keep building. Lucas: Right. And this show is ad-free, which means it's supported entirely by listeners who find value in these conversations. If that's you, and you'd like to help us keep going, you can support us at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It's a small gesture that means the world to us. Luna: No pressure, really. Just knowing people are listening and getting something out of it is what keeps us going. Lucas: So back to the pause. I've been reading about something called micro-breaks — these are intentional or even unintentional windows of disengagement that last anywhere from a few seconds to a couple of minutes. And the research is pretty clear that they help with focus, reduce decision fatigue, and actually improve performance over the course of a day. Luna: But for someone who's burned out, those micro-breaks might feel counterproductive. Like, if I stop for even a minute, I'll fall behind. Lucas: That's the paradox. Chronic stress actually rewires our attention so that we perceive idle time as threatening. There's a term for it — I think it's called 'time urgency' — where every second has to be productive or we feel anxious. And that makes the pause feel like a risk rather than a resource. Luna: I have a friend who's a project manager, and she told me last week that she can't remember the last time she took a real break. She eats lunch at her desk, she doesn't even get up to fill her water bottle because she's worried about missing a message. And her calendar is just back to back with no gaps. Lucas: That's exactly the environment where pauses disappear. And it's not just about missing breaks — it's about how the brain processes information. When you're constantly switching tasks without any downtime, your working memory gets clogged, and you end up making poorer decisions. The pause is when your brain consolidates what you've just done and resets for the next thing. Luna: So what does that look like in practice? I mean, if you're burned out and you've lost the pause, how do you even start to get it back? Lucas: Well, first you have to recognize that it's not about adding more breaks to your to-do list. That's just another task. Instead, it's about allowing the natural gaps that already exist to actually be gaps. Like, if you finish a call three minutes early, don't immediately jump to the next task. Just sit there for a minute. Let your mind wander. Luna: But isn't that easier said than done? For someone who's been in that high-alert state for months, even sitting still for a minute can feel like torture. Lucas: Absolutely. That's why I like the idea of starting with something called 'anchored pauses.' You tie a micro-break to an existing habit — like after you send an email, or before you open a new document. You take one deep breath, and let your shoulders drop. It's a tiny physical cue that tells your nervous system it's okay to reset. Luna: I've heard of something similar — like the 'two-minute rule' where you take a short walk after a stressful meeting. But I think the key is not to make it a hard rule that you'll feel guilty about breaking. Lucas: Right. And that's what I think we often miss in career advice. We treat recovery as something that has to be earned or scheduled, but the most effective breaks are the ones that happen organically, almost by accident. And burnout makes us forget how to let those happen. Luna: So the relationship with the pause is almost like a muscle that atrophies. You have to rebuild it slowly, without judgment. Lucas: Exactly. And there's actually some research on this from the University of Illinois — they found that brief diversions from a task can dramatically improve focus, because the brain gets fatigued when you're stuck in the same mode for too long. Even just looking out the window for thirty seconds can be enough to reboot your attention. Luna: I love that. And it's not about being lazy — it's about being smart with your energy, which is exactly what you need if you're trying to sustain a long career. Lucas: So here's my question for you, Luna. When you're working on a deadline and you feel the urge to just power through without a pause, what's something that helps you actually stop? Luna: For me, it's setting my watch to beep every hour. And when it goes off, I have to stand up and stretch, even if it's just for twenty seconds. It's a non-negotiable rule that I've built in for myself, and after a few weeks, it became automatic. Lucas: That's a great example of a structured micro-break. And I think the key is that you're not trying to force yourself into a long meditative state — you're just creating a little space for your brain to breathe. Over time, those small pauses add up to meaningful recovery. Luna: And the interesting thing is, once you start taking them, you might find that you actually become more productive, not less. Which is the opposite of what your burnout brain tells you. Lucas: Right. But I want to be careful here, because I don't want to turn this into another productivity hack that we have to optimize. The point is to reclaim the pause as a human need, not as a performance tool. If we only take breaks to get more done, we're still in that relentless output mindset. Luna: That's a really important distinction. So how do you keep it from becoming just another thing to be good at? Lucas: I think it comes down to intention. You take the pause because you deserve a moment of rest, not because it will make you a better employee. And that might sound like a subtle shift, but it changes everything. It's about being kind to yourself, not about optimizing your output. Luna: And that kindness is exactly what burnout steals from you. You start to treat yourself like a machine that has to keep running. Lucas: So if this episode has a takeaway, it's this: burnout might have convinced you that every second has to be filled with productive work, but the pause is not your enemy. It's your ally. And rebuilding that relationship starts with a single held breath. Luna: I love that. And maybe next time you're in that three-minute gap between calls, you just let it be a gap. Lucas: Yeah. And if you're listening and you've had a similar experience — or if you've found a way to carve out pauses in your own day — we'd love to hear about it. We might even share it in a future episode. Luna: That sounds like a great way to keep this conversation going. Lucas: Until next time, take care of yourself — and take a pause, if you can.