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A Christian Coach Talks With a Daoist About Exercise, Faith, and Stewardship · Faithful Fitness With Coach Alex VanHouten

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  Speaker 1: Hey, faithful, Welcome to the Faithful Fitness Podcast. In a moment,
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  Speaker 1: my dad, coach Alex van Houten, will help you honor
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  Speaker 1: God by making the most out of the body God's
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  Speaker 1: given you. Today you can expect truth from the Bible,
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  Speaker 1: tools from science, and guidance for everyday life. So listen closing,
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  Speaker 1: Get ready, let's get one percent better today.
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  Speaker 2: Hey there, coach Alex here, grace and peace to you.
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  Speaker 2: This episode is a little different. I had the opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to sit down with Sam King on the way and
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  Speaker 2: I'll just say up front, this conversation came from a
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  Speaker 2: completely different neck of the woods than I usually find
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  Speaker 2: myself in. We talked exercise science, we talked adaptation, We
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  Speaker 2: talked mitochondria, stress, belief and performance and what happens when
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  Speaker 2: the body is challenged and forced to grow. But we
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  Speaker 2: also stepped into some territory that may be unfamiliar to you, Daoism,
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  Speaker 2: Eastern medicine, energy language, spiritual ideas that don't come from
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  Speaker 2: a Christian worldview. And I want to take a moment
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  Speaker 2: here to help frame this conversation. One of my exercise
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  Speaker 2: science consulting contracts is with Everyday Spy, where I get
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity to collaborate with Andrew Bustamante and his team there.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that work is a God thing because it's
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  Speaker 2: opened so many interesting doors for me. It allows me
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  Speaker 2: to take what I understand about exercise science, stress, adaptation,
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  Speaker 2: nutrition in the body and bring it into conversations with
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  Speaker 2: audiences that may not share my faith, And honestly, I'm
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  Speaker 2: so grateful for it, because not every conversation I enter
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  Speaker 2: is inside the church, and not every person I speak
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  Speaker 2: to already believes what I believe. Not every audience is
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  Speaker 2: going to use the same language, the same categories, or
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  Speaker 2: the same framework for understanding the body, the soul, God
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  Speaker 2: or truth. This episode is a good example of that.
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  Speaker 2: There are places in this conversation where Son King and
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  Speaker 2: I found common ground around the body, stress matters, adaptation matters,
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  Speaker 2: belief matters, and movement matters. The body and the mind
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  Speaker 2: are deeply connected. But there are also places where our
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  Speaker 2: worldviews are very different. And I want you to listen
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  Speaker 2: for that, not with fear or arrogance, but with discernment,
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  Speaker 2: because some of the ideas in this conversation are not
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  Speaker 2: just out there somewhere you might have actually encountered them
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  Speaker 2: already in fitness culture and meditation, language, in wellness spaces
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  Speaker 2: and breath work, maybe in yoga or energy healing. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: you've heard them in conversations around manifestation or consciousness or
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  Speaker 2: the universe. And as Christians, we need to learn how
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  Speaker 2: to listen carefully. We need to be able to recognize
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  Speaker 2: what is true, reject what is false, and bring every
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  Speaker 2: thought captive to Christ. Because Jesus is not one spiritual
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  Speaker 2: option among many. He is the way, the truth and
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  Speaker 2: the life. And my prayer in conversations like this is
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  Speaker 2: not that I would win an argument. It's that I
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  Speaker 2: would shine the light of the Gospel with truth, clarity,
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  Speaker 2: and grace. So I want to ask you personally, when
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  Speaker 2: I step into conversations like this one, would you pray
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  Speaker 2: for me? Pray that I'd speak clearly, Pray that I
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  Speaker 2: would not compromise truth, Pray that I would listen well,
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  Speaker 2: and pray that I would carry the spirit of Christ
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  Speaker 2: into places where people may not know him yet. And
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  Speaker 2: as you listen, I want you to wrestle at this question.
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  Speaker 2: Where have I absorbed spiritual ideas from the culture around
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  Speaker 2: me without testing them against scripture? That's not a question
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  Speaker 2: of fear. It's a question of faithfulness because the body matters,
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  Speaker 2: the mind matters, in what you believe matters, and ultimately.
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  Speaker 3: Christ is Lord over all of it.
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  Speaker 2: But before we jump in, I want to invite you
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  Speaker 2: to join us for the Faithful five k. It's not
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  Speaker 2: too late to jump in and start training. Whether you're
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  Speaker 2: planning to walk, jog, run, bring your family, or just
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  Speaker 2: join us virtually. There's still time to take a real
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  Speaker 2: step forward, and we have a robust training program inside
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  Speaker 2: the Faithful Fitness app to help you get ready. You
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  Speaker 2: don't have to figure this out alone, and you can
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  Speaker 2: start where you are, follow the plan, and train with purpose.
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  Speaker 2: Check out the links and the show notes below. All right,
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  Speaker 2: without further ado, let's get to this conversation with Son
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  Speaker 2: King on his podcast. Whether or not you actually have
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  Speaker 2: the endurance gene doesn't matter as much as whether or
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  Speaker 2: not you believe you do. If I believe I have
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  Speaker 2: the gene but I don't, that actually improves my carbon
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  Speaker 2: dioxide buffering as if I did. And in the same way,
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  Speaker 2: if I have the gene but I believe I don't,
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  Speaker 2: that actually significantly hamstrings my my carbon dioxide buffering.
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  Speaker 3: As if I didn't have the gene.
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  Speaker 2: Belief is an extremely powerful, on extremely important part of
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  Speaker 2: the process.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, personally, as an experiencer, I've been on
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  Speaker 4: this journey of health and fitness in a mental attainment
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  Speaker 4: for a better part of forty five years. I've been
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  Speaker 4: chasing that body of building since I was ten when
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  Speaker 4: I picked up Education of a Bodybuilder by anist Swarzenegger.
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  Speaker 4: I had my first bodybuilding show when I was fifteen.
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  Speaker 4: I was one hundred and eighty seven pounds at hundred
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  Speaker 4: four percent. Now, these are challenge stressors in the hours
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  Speaker 4: when we referred to that as stress adaptation expansion, the
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  Speaker 4: neurology really works really well. I fundamentally put it down
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  Speaker 4: to until I was sort of deflated as I got
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  Speaker 4: older and as a late teens when I really started
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  Speaker 4: to feel the pressure of competitive bodybuilding. Hitting the two
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  Speaker 4: twenty two forty two sixty walking on stage at around
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  Speaker 4: two forty at about six seven percent said the max.
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  Speaker 4: But it was comfortable because I didn't really push anything
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  Speaker 4: other than meeting my mind, meeting my biology, focusing on nutrition,
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  Speaker 4: understanding the pathways of like you know, key tones, fat, glucose,
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  Speaker 4: how that works, to really optimize horbones. So you're this
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  Speaker 4: is very much a magical path that most people get
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  Speaker 4: over one bye, especially in today's social media path. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: there's so much nonsense out there, and most people would
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  Speaker 4: back in the day, they'd look at me and go, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: what are you running, bro And I'm like, I'm running broccoli, steak, eggs. None, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think you understand. You don't get that type
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  Speaker 4: of conditioning, that thin thinning of the skin, the vascularity,
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  Speaker 4: the muscularity without an assistance. Yes, I have assistance. It's
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  Speaker 4: called food, it's called sleep, it's called exercise. And so
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  Speaker 4: I spent most of my childhood up until late teen,
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  Speaker 4: I had no idea. I was like completely ignorant to
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  Speaker 4: the fact that Swarzenaggus was taking steroids and other things.
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  Speaker 4: And we're like, what we would call it today is
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  Speaker 4: a ped or something of that nature, And I didn't
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  Speaker 4: realize it. I was like, no, that's not possible. Now
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  Speaker 4: I know personally that it's possible to obtain that type
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  Speaker 4: of like anabolic like roided out look, meeting your mind
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  Speaker 4: and your neurology and evoking a biological response. How say
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  Speaker 4: you as a professional and someone that is teaching people
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  Speaker 4: that are under a tremendous amount of stretch. In relation
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  Speaker 4: to your job description within the Everyday Spy program, you
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  Speaker 4: have to help people meet their biology in their environment.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't make it an internal thing. What is a
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  Speaker 4: good baseline for them to sort of like not have
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  Speaker 4: everything go awry because you know, we're elevating quartosol, we're
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  Speaker 4: elevating sorry, well, we are elevating estrogen for men, we
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  Speaker 4: are writing insulin, and you're under that run gun sort
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  Speaker 4: of pressure. So what would you how do you start?
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  Speaker 4: Because I mean you're tuning up some of these great
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  Speaker 4: thinkers and minds within this space and within your your
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  Speaker 4: your company. What do you do to apply for someone
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  Speaker 4: who just goes okay, I just had to do three
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  Speaker 4: massive missions this that when I'm not going to say
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  Speaker 4: whatever it is, And how do I adapt to the
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  Speaker 4: environment like on a circadian rhythm and maintain good low
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  Speaker 4: stress or hormones elevating the anabolic ones.
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  Speaker 2: Lathan, I appreciate the question, and there's there's a lot there, right,
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  Speaker 2: So there's there's two things I have to say before
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  Speaker 2: I can answer the question directly. The first is you
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  Speaker 2: you touched on something there that's really important in the
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  Speaker 2: fitness world, health and fitness nutrition. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: information in the world as if there's a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: siloed goals around fitness. I want six pack abs, I
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  Speaker 2: need to lose ten pounds, I want to maybe I
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  Speaker 2: want to get off some medications. Maybe I want to
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  Speaker 2: run a marathon faster, whatever that is, right, And so
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  Speaker 2: each of those feels like a different thing. Bodybuilding might
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  Speaker 2: be in that category, right, And that's where you get
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  Speaker 2: all these siloed sources of information about how to achieve
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  Speaker 2: the best results.
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  Speaker 3: And so what I'd like to say about that is
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  Speaker 3: that's the.
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  Speaker 2: Very, very wrong, wrong way to understand the science of
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  Speaker 2: nutrition and exercise. So we're going to bring it into
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  Speaker 2: what we'll call the singularity, or where all the rubber
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  Speaker 2: meets the road. And this is where my work with
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  Speaker 2: Everyday Spy is powerful and important both for operators but
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  Speaker 2: then the individual who's not an operator or doesn't think
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  Speaker 2: they are, but would like to make the most of themselves.
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  Speaker 2: And so where do all these roads cross. Where does
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  Speaker 2: the bodybuilder and the marathon runner and the lady who
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  Speaker 2: wants to lose the baby weight to where do these
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  Speaker 2: roads cross, and the roads cross at the level of
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  Speaker 2: our DNA. What health and fitness science can teach us
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  Speaker 2: is how we make the most out of our biological blueprint.
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  Speaker 2: So sound you have a blueprint, I have a blueprint.
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  Speaker 2: They're similar in a lot of ways because we're both human,
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  Speaker 2: both Homo sapien.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: We share ninety nine point nine something percent of our DNA,
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  Speaker 2: but there is a very small percentage of the DNA
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  Speaker 2: that's different between us that we don't share, and that
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  Speaker 2: difference is very important because you have some predispositions toward,
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  Speaker 2: let's say, gaining muscle. One of the things I could
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  Speaker 2: probably say about you, given the story you just told
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  Speaker 2: about becoming a we would call you a natty bodybuilder,
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  Speaker 2: a natty bodybuilder and being able to build so much
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  Speaker 2: muscle with discipline, exercise, nutrition, and no help, right, no exogenous.
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  Speaker 3: External hormonal or peptidle support.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: What that tells me is that from a genetic percenterspective,
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  Speaker 2: you have very low milestatin. Mylestatin is an enzyme that
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  Speaker 2: is kind of the upper limit for how much muscle
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  Speaker 2: you can grow, and so for people who have lots
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  Speaker 2: of milestatin, floating around in their bloodstream.
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  Speaker 3: As a result of their genetics. You can't change it.
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  Speaker 3: It's there.
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  Speaker 2: Then they have a hard time growing muscle. They're generally
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  Speaker 2: smaller on average. Where there's a portion of the population
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  Speaker 2: who have very very low levels of myostatin floating around
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  Speaker 2: in their bloodstream, and so muscle growth can grow much faster.
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  Speaker 3: You have a much greater ability.
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  Speaker 2: Or you can think of it as a as a
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  Speaker 2: higher mortal limit for the amount of lean body mass
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  Speaker 2: that you can have on your body. And if anybody
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  Speaker 2: is interested in this sort of thing, you can google
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  Speaker 2: a Belgian blue cow. Belgian blue These are cows that
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  Speaker 2: have had their myostatin genes deleted and so they just
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  Speaker 2: grow muscle indefinitely. And these cows look like their bodybuilders.
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  Speaker 2: They look like they've been doing lappole downs and shoulder
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  Speaker 2: us is and by you're like, man, I need to
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  Speaker 2: figure out what weight training program that cows on.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So, when you look at what we actually do with
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  Speaker 2: exercise science in everyday spy is, we're interested in helping
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  Speaker 2: everybody make the most out of that genetic blueprint. And
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  Speaker 2: so you might have an operator who needs to be
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  Speaker 2: able to work in a sleep deprived environment, for instance,
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  Speaker 2: or to be mission stable for two weeks. And whatever
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  Speaker 2: genetics they bring to the table, that's the genetics they have.
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  Speaker 2: You don't get to change that, right, And so the
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  Speaker 2: question is how do we work with your genetics to
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  Speaker 2: train you for the mission, to execute the mission, and
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  Speaker 2: to recover from the mission.
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  Speaker 3: And I know that sounds like very.
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  Speaker 2: Specific to this whole operator idea, but in the general
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  Speaker 2: population this is very true as well. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: Everyday Spy does is takes the methodologies in the CIA
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  Speaker 2: to help real life individuals. Every day individuals make barriers
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  Speaker 2: in their life. And so whether your mission is to
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  Speaker 2: raise your kids without gaining forty pounds in the process,
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  Speaker 2: or your mission is to compete in a bodybuilding competition,
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  Speaker 2: whatever that mission is, we want to train you make
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  Speaker 2: the most of your DNA and preparation for that mission,
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  Speaker 2: to execute the mission well, and then to recover well
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  Speaker 2: from the mission so that you can take on another
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  Speaker 2: mission and not lose your health and fitness in the process.
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  Speaker 4: Fascinating, you know, it's I've always been with an underscore
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  Speaker 4: on less it's more, and it's been very advantageous no
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  Speaker 4: matter whether I'm teaching someone something or I'm applying it personally.
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  Speaker 4: And so something I was very familiar with almost from
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  Speaker 4: the beginning of my journey was how to put the
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  Speaker 4: most amount of pressure on the system and get the
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  Speaker 4: most amount of results with little to know lag time.
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  Speaker 4: And so most people will become upset if compulsive, which
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  Speaker 4: is a natural trait of the human condition where they
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  Speaker 4: just they want more equals better. It must be this
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  Speaker 4: is possible. You know, I do more exercise, I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to get more results. Well, of course you and I
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  Speaker 4: know inherently that is not that's false. And the more
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  Speaker 4: pressure you put on the system, it will work accordingly.
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  Speaker 4: And I think endurance from most people, they tend to
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  Speaker 4: miss the heartbeat of it, right. So when you're doing
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  Speaker 4: any type of like training, you must remember the system
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  Speaker 4: will adapt to whatever pressure you're putting on it. So
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  Speaker 4: if you're acute and you're highly charged in your training,
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  Speaker 4: which to this day and age, most people call this
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  Speaker 4: type of like hip training. For me, this was a
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  Speaker 4: level of powerlifting that was a very large load in
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  Speaker 4: a very short volume, and I will do that and
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  Speaker 4: effectively gain massive anabolic responses from that, So that load
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  Speaker 4: will be determinative. So if you hit a load hard,
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  Speaker 4: then the counterintuitive neurological effects of the biology will be
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  Speaker 4: cortisol to create homeostasis, as opposed to if you endure
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  Speaker 4: this experience for a long period of time, then the
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  Speaker 4: body will also mimic a long period of time of
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  Speaker 4: high levels of cortisol, making it very difficult to maximize
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  Speaker 4: things like insulin and things of that nature where you
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  Speaker 4: want to get an anabolic effect, or furthermore, you want
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  Speaker 4: to access a certain fuel in the system that will
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  Speaker 4: give you the result of lean muscle mass, energy, whatever
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  Speaker 4: you want to call it. How do you approach you know,
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  Speaker 4: someone that goes well, you know, I have four minutes
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  Speaker 4: a week, which is really to me optimal, right, But
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  Speaker 4: how would you approach it for someone to push on
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  Speaker 4: their their their biology as you put it, their DNA.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm assuming you're leaning into epigenetic potential lore switching
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  Speaker 4: on and off genes, which.
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  Speaker 2: Is in fact that's that's the I would say, that's
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  Speaker 2: the foundational principle through which we train and inspy of
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  Speaker 2: it at everyday spy and through my work and faithful fitness.
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  Speaker 2: Is that is that I can apply not just me,
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  Speaker 2: you you, as an individual who has a body you
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  Speaker 2: get to live in. You can apply adaptive stressors to
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  Speaker 2: yourself in a way that create positive and powerful outcomes.
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  Speaker 2: The question is what what are you trying to achieve?
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  Speaker 2: And are the stressors that you're applying to your body
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  Speaker 2: optimal to achieve that?
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  Speaker 3: Right? And and that's that's the rub, right, because you
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  Speaker 3: can get results.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say so, So when I was a young trainer,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you've heard this before, when you were a
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  Speaker 2: bodybuilding back in the day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 2: And this was even before I understood how to speak
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  Speaker 2: to epigenetics. Right, somebody would come up to me on
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  Speaker 2: the fitness floor and say something like which form of
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  Speaker 2: cardio is best?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: And that's a fair question, that's a fair, every day,
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  Speaker 2: average joe question. Hey, I'm here in the gym, I
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  Speaker 2: want the most bang from my buck?
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  Speaker 3: Which kind of car? Which machine should I get on? Right?
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  Speaker 2: But unfortunately that word best really matters because if you
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  Speaker 2: say which form of cardio is best, you might be
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  Speaker 2: asking which form of cardio will help me burn fat
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  Speaker 2: as a fuel source? Because I've got too much fat
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  Speaker 2: on my body and I'm working on it. Which form
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  Speaker 2: of cardiovascular exercise is going to challenge my heart the
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  Speaker 2: most because I'm on these heart medications and I'd like
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  Speaker 2: to lower my blood pressure naturally. Which form of cardio
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  Speaker 2: is best because my knee really hurts, and I would
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  Speaker 2: like to be able to get my heart rate up
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  Speaker 2: without pissing my joints off.
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  Speaker 3: Right, the best kind of matters Right.
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  Speaker 2: At the time, most people were asking which one burns
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  Speaker 2: the most calories because they were interested in burning the
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  Speaker 2: losing weight or whatever, and comparing, Okay, well, I burned
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  Speaker 2: this many calories in my cardio, so I must achieve
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  Speaker 2: this level of weight loss. So a very interesting study
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  Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen flew at the face of this question.
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  Speaker 3: And the Biobank in Hong Kong.
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  Speaker 2: Did a survey of eighteen thousand genetic individuals, and so
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  Speaker 2: they had all the data there, which kind of cool.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have that in the US, but they have
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  Speaker 2: it eighteen thousand individuals genetic data, and they searched those
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  Speaker 2: individuals genetic data for seven different genes that seemed to
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  Speaker 2: create the predisposition for obesity.
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  Speaker 3: They call them the obesity genes.
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  Speaker 2: But they're curious, if you have these genes, what are
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  Speaker 2: you actually obese or are there actual factors in between
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  Speaker 2: that say whether or not you show up as obese?
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  Speaker 2: And so what they did is they brought up all
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  Speaker 2: these people in and they did their measures, wait circumferences,
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  Speaker 2: just to see, like, you have the genetic factors for obesity,
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  Speaker 2: are you actually obese? And they asked them one question,
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  Speaker 2: and the question was what do you do for exercise?
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  Speaker 3: And that was it. They didn't ask.
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  Speaker 2: How long they did the exercise, how often they did
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  Speaker 2: the exercise. They didn't ask whether or not they were
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: following any specific diets right, And then they were able
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: to take the individuals who had obesity they had the
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: genes and they were obese, and then the individuals who
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: had the genes but weren't obese, and compare them to
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: what their actual exercise modalities were. And there were only
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: six exercise modalities that resulted in not being obese and
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: had nothing to do with how many calories they were burning.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: It had nothing to.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Do with with how frequently they were doing or how
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: hard they were doing it. They were just able to
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: answer whether or not they did it. And it was yoga, dancing, running, walking,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: way training, and the other one.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Is i've lost it's gone.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: But interestingly, what was not on that list was swimming
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: and cycling, which arguably cycling burns just as many calories
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: is running and walking. And so what the researchers concluded
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: was the stressors that the exercise is putting on the
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: body that modulate these obesity genes is not actually the
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: calories burned. There's something else happening with these sorts of
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: exercise modalities that are creating a stress around the body
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: that tends to We call it to acolate, to shut
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: off the obesity predisposition. And so, long story short. When
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: somebody says which form of cardio is best? As an operator,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: which form of cardio's best?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: What should I be doing? Should I be running? Should
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I be swimming? Should I be rowing?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Right, the answer to the question is what adaptations are
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: we going for? And that informs us whether it needs
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: to be low and slow. That informs us whether it
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: needs to be intense. That informs us whether or not
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: it needs to be a full body movement versus an
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: upper body movement or a lower body movement, And it
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: also informs us about how the training protocol might go.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: If you don't have access to specialized equipment for instance,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And so the answer which form of cardio is best
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: actually very complicated for a very simple reason.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Right right, you know, it's funny because I, you know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: back in the eighties when I was using supplements, real
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: supplements like the twenty amino acids and the basic profiles
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: of twenty amino acids. And of course at the time
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: I got a sponsorship as a bodybuilder natural bodybuilder, and
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: the company that was sponsoring me, it was a stream
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: company called Musashi, So they were very innovative. They were
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: the first people to bring out creating any form of
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: amino acids. So I was using these blends in something
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: very basic today that people would scoff at, something like
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: essential amino acids. It was very fundamental and really the
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: core of the passage or writer passage was activating the
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: general energy source that everyone has, so optimizing a mitochondria
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: at a level that was challenged to replicate and regenerate.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: You want to start with something that can be universal
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: at baseline. You know, when you're fasting, you're going to
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: find that you meet yourself at some point or another. Now,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: the level of that type of stress adaptation will be
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: determinative by the person's mental fortitude and then what the
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: biology is getting out. But initially, if you're just cold
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: turkey moving into something like this balancing electrolytes, you're going
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: to get a result that is going to going to
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: shock you because the body's adaptation to that energy source
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: is met almost instantly, even within a twenty four to
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: forty eight every two hour fast, which is in most
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: people's people's category of a mission impossible, but it's it's
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: very normal when you when you train that homeostasis hermasis
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: is invited. You wanted he mesas you want the challenge,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: because how do you adapt? As Clin Eastwood would say
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: within the Heartbreak Ridge, I don't know whether you've ever
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: seen that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: That's a good thing.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I must adapt and overcome because like this is where
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: we meet the rubber meets the road, right, so you know,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: getting back to that, I would take pure ATP that
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: is not available, but I was given it through sponsorship.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Now that stuff is like rocket fuel. There's like battery acid.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: It increased my strength naturally just by taking a tea
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: spoon of it up we mentioned the highest rate was
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: like my strength increased by thirty percent inside of a minute.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I was like Holy moly. And the goal of the
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: the owner of this company was I want to show
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: people what they can do naturally without enhancers, and so
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: something that's in natural order, like essential amino acids, which
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: is basically what's necessary to create a chain of protein
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: for the body. You need these things. You don't produce them.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: You must endure or induce them externally to get the
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: result that you need. So I was fasting one meal
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: a day, taking four or five teaspoons of these essential
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: amino acids four or five times a day, and I
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: put on within probably eighteen months, sixty pounds of muscle.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: My strength went up from three hundred pounds to three
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: hundred pounds squad to I peeked out at about eight hundred.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: I was doing eight five for about three reps. That's
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: pink to fame, eight five for squad, EIGHTO five for deadlift,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: and five forty for bench and then you feel the
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: hubcaps coming off the wheels and your body says okay.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: But my my obsession was Fred Hatfield like this broke
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: the threshold. The first thousand pounds squad known recorded as
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: legitimately a thousand pounds squad. I want he was my idol.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: I didn't squad for no reason. You know that charge
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: you and I are getting right now is what we
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: call my parapsychologist's friends they called psychokinesis. This is a
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: fundamental energetic communion that we're having here that is way
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: above the pay grade of most people that are listening.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: But you can feel it viscerally, sabbatic pasifically, this is
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: an energetic this is you have me at hello type
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: of mama, but this is the energy man, this is
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: like you go deeper. So with the atp as being
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: the literal spark to anything existing for action or inaction
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: within the body, what do you how do you go
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: through that cycle? And how do you optimize someone that
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: because personally key tones from me doesn't matter who you are.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: I don't care what you're doing, whether it's endurance, whether
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: it's fast acting, short acting muscle fiber recruitment, cardio. You're
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: going to get a positive result out of a short
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: term ketogenic sort of like process because you're healing the body,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: like you really feel like you're you're you're taking some
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: type of like anesthesia. It's like, hang on, where are
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: all the eggs and pines? Where's the connective tissue issues?
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Why do I not have any problems? Now? I might
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: be buffering with some M and M, which is a
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: natural sort of thing these days when you're looking at
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: supplementation wise. But what are you what are your thoughts
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: on that? I know it's individualized, but would you say
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: that can help a lot of people, like on a
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: on a therapy level to get a result.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Well, you brought up a lot of things there, and
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I just want to say that I almost just stopped
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: talking to you and knocked out some squats because they're like,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: let's go.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: That's good. Sounds great.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Although I got to an eight hundred pound squad. That's
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: that's not on my claim to fame, brother, I was.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: You know, I had a training partner who was good
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: friends with Tom Plattz, and so my client to fame
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: is actually sixty four reps at three point fifteen.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Asked ya, that's impressive.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: That's it. But like there's nothing to stop that. You know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: I had young kids, even in my thirties. I'll be like, oh,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: it'd be like you. I said, you can't be like
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: me because your body can't handle the stress. You're a
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: very angry person. You're taking away too many steroids when
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: you when you when you're about to train the way
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: I'm going to make you train. I walk into the gym,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I jump under a weight, and I started like probably
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: sixty to seventy percent of my max is a warner.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: People like, that's insane. You've done no warm up. It's like,
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: who's told you that? The warm up? Like it's in
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: your head? But people get that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Your question though, there's a there's a couple of things
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: we're talking about. So you brought up atp which which
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: leads me to the conversation about mitochondria, and that actually
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: ties in very nicely with keytones. So so furtherless, just
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: in case they haven't followed us up until this point,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: mitylchondria exists in every cell in your body, and.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: That's the powerhouse of your cell.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: It's actually its own little life form all by itself.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: It has its own DNA, like you have your DNA,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and you have mitylchondria in you that has its own DNA,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: And you have thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands, depending on
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: the type of cell, it is of mitylchondria within each
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: of your cell. And these little guys are really important
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: because their job is to create atp I dentisty and
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: triphosphate from whatever fuel you give it. And it can
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: work on ketones, which are derived from fats. It can
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: work on carbohydrates, which everybody knows what a carb is
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: at this point, I'm sure. And what's really interesting and
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: people need to understand this wrap their head around it.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: At the level of every one of your cells, where
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: these mitylchondrea are doing their thing, you are a combustion reaction.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: You take in oxygen, right, there's oxygen in the air.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: That oxygen hits, your lungs goes, your heart is circulated
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: all the way through. Hopefully, if everything's working right, your
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: bloods dream and ends up in your cells. And just
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: like a flame, you have fuel plus oxygen. Those two
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: things together yields energy plus carbon dioxide and water. So
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: if you breathe on a mirror, you see all that
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: water vapor, that's water. That's a that's a direct result,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: a direct byproduct of mitochondrial combustion. So I've always thought
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: it was cool that you're on fire, but you're not.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: You're not burning up right. That's that's a that's actually
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: very Christian idea. The burning bush that's on fire but
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: not consumed. You are that which is crazy town. All right,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: So anyway, this is happening in your your body right now.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: It's a biological fact. Trillions of little fire is going.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: On right now.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Our mitochondria. Our body can either select
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: to have more of them or have less of them. Also,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: are body can select for those mitochondria to have membranes
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: that are very responsive, that have membranes that are very resilient,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: or it can also select from membranes that aren't very
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: responsive and aren't.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Very resilient, that is to say, easily damaged. Right now,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: here's the rub. Here's the interesting thing.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: If I take somebody who doesn't work out at all
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: and is eating garbage food all the time, lots of
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: process lots of lots of lots of process carbohydrates, lots
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: of process fat, right they're giving their mitochondria lots of
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: easy energy that doesn't require oxygen because carbohydrates have oxygen
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: built right into the molecule. When I eat a cracker,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I don't need to breathe a lot for that to
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: be used as fuel. The oxygen's right there. But my
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: body fat doesn't have oxygen in it. It's a hydrocarbon,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: so I have to breathe oxygen and supply oxygen to
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: my cell in order to use my body fat as
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: a fuel source.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: That's a stressful and difficult thing to do. And so
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: when the body gets weak and deconditioned, I tend to
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: use fuel that doesn't require oxygen, which is where my
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: carb cravings come from. End.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: It conditions my mitochondria to be.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Less and less because they can get easy energy. So
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: the less mitochondria I have, the less resilient they are,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the less conditioned I am, the less energy I have,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: the less actual ATP I can produce, and I will
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: feel that. I will feel that on a visceral level.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I'll feel tired all the time. I'll feel fatigued, I
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: feel like something's wrong. This actually causes a lot of
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: mental illness in individuals. When you look at mitochondria function
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: at the level of the brain, anxiety depression ADHD, even
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: dimension Alzheimer's at the high end of the aging spectrum. Right,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: So what's happening Very interestingly, when you take an individual
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: who's not exercising, not doing anything nutritionally and you start
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: applying a stress to the body.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: The stress is usually hypoxia.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: What's happening is you're taking that mitochondria and you're saying, Okay,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: we're going to make it really hard to get oxygen
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: around here, and we're going to get rid of all
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: this sugar and you're going to work anyway, and that
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: poor mitolchondria is like crap. So it's trying to do
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: its best, and the cell is stressed such that it
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: increases the resilience of mitochondria. It'll start increasing how much
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: mitochondria are actually available. It'll start improving the pathways where
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: you clear out some of the metabolic waste around the
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: mitochondria so it can be more efficient. And so what
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: you do is you take some person who's not been
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: exercising and we're like, hey, we're.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Going to run around the block. First time they run
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: around the block, they're like they're trying to get all
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the oxygen. They're really bad at it.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Their poor heart's thumping so hard, their lungs are wrestling
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: with this, their bodies like, we don't have enough blood here.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: We got to get more blood in here.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: And so it rapidly tries to adapt to this hypoxic state,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and within a week or two, you can take somebody
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: who's very out of shape and relying on crackers and
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: soda and pizza to get any sort of energy to
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: their mitochondria, and now suddenly they've added lids of blood
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: to their body to help move oxygen. Their heart has
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: gotten stronger, their lungs have greater capacity, and every single
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: cell on their body is adding mitochondria every day to
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: improve how much ATP they can produce. And that process
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: we call it a general adaptation syndrome. That process is
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: because primarily of hypoxia. It is the reduction of oxygen
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: available to mitochondria in the cells, and the cells are
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: responding by improving how much oxygen we can move, how
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: many mitochondria are available, how resilient those mitochondria are, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: therefore you get an increase in ATP production. That's not
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: just in deconditioned individuals, but that's how that process works.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: And fasting is another example of a stress that brings
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: a hypoxic state to mitochondria that they have to deal
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: with and that your body actually can't adapt to.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's fascinating. It just reinforces so many things.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, I have been teaching Dallast alchemy is a
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Dallast priest for over thirty years. Well, the fundamentals of
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: that is Chinese medicine, which is kind of a boarded
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: down version of our chemical process, but you have to
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: be able to meet certain adaptations. So Chinese medicine, you know,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I've dozens of students that are doctors of Chinese medicine,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: doctors a functional medicine. Doctors are doctors, and they always
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: come back to what is the most potent, which is
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: energy potential. It doesn't matter what you're doing. When it
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: comes down to any form of transmutation or transformation, you
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: need to optimize the energy. Whether it's in your mind
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: forming you know, the neuroplussticity of the body and playing
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: with it like a puppet muster, or you're doing things
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: that are far more internal. And this is where the
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: respiration comes in, you know, for pressure related condensed movements.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: When it comes to things like bodybuilding and power lifting
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: that I'm familiar with, it you get down with the
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: get down, that compression and that endurance is where magical
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: things take place with the respiration further reinforcing the understanding
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: that you've shared with us today about the fundamentals how
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: that oxygen works to optimize that and you know.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: And in weight training, so sorry to interrupt, but in
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: weight training, what's happening is you're creating a localized hypoxic state.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: So you do sixty four squads under three hundred and
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: fifteen pounds. By the tenth or twelfth rep, your quadriceps
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: have started to burn through all the easy energy and
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: now they're running out. And so every rep after that
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: is a forced hypoxic state. And when you complete those repetitions,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: if everything, if everything stays intact, better, that's exactly what
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: you do. Yeah, because because you brought the cell to
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the brink of death, but it didn't die, and so
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: now what it does is it prepares for the next
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: time something like that happens.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Increased mitochondria density.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: There's a fluid around the around the cell called sarcoplasm,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: which stores extra extra fuel for about like that, right,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: your capillaries grow so that you have more opportunities for recovery. Like, oh,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: dangities doing it again, Send send more capillaries. This guy's
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: doing squats again, right, And so both in both instances,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: you're whether it's cardiovascular or muscular skeletal. We're creating those
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: hypoxic states through exercise, local and global, and it challenges
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: the body.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: And the challenge is the key. Lady and gentlemen, gentlemen
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: and ladies within dowers and we refer to restress, adaptation, expansion.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Further more, a little humble pie. We call it love,
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: despair and fear. You despise what is transforming you. And
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: you have to be introspective because once you meet that pressure,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: there's homeasis or homeostasis. There's only two options, and you
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: will fall to one. You will fall on the sort
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: of one or the other. And to really garner a result,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: you must constantly apply some level of stress so you
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: adapt to it. You raise the old expression raising the bar.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: If you raise the bar, you will adapt to it.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: I can see how the type of training you put
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: people through makes them extremely optimal. I mean I always
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: tell people you have to floss these energy systems. Someone
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: that gets too you know, focused on one energy source
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: as the most optimal is making a mistake like for example,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: key tones, a glucose or you know, if you want
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: to get fundamental fat as another category as if there is,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: but let's just for people that are nitty picky, that
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: really is necessary to be able to shift in between
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: those energy sources efficiently without evoking high levels of insulin unnecessarily,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: you know, because you're you're you're still creating more cortisol,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: and so the more you can adapt to it you
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: raise that bar, the faster your body will clear the
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: system so that you will have a direct pathway without
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: any basically hurdles for your body to have to Now,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: I didn't do I didn't put in that. I always
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: get this from students. They come out of there, you're
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: you weren't joking. I feel really stupid right now. Oh well,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: you're about to go through a rite of passage that
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: will determine whether you have the mental, emotional, and physical
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: fortitude to expel what is not necessary. By the end
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: of it, they're begging for the mercy of somebody. But afterwards,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: the expansive state is so tremendous that they're being able
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: to adapt and then channel more of this energy efficiently.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Because you know, people don't recognize that. You know, this
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: is it. This is the baseline of everything. Without it,
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: you're dead without it. This, this physiology doesn't exist. So
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: stress is a necessary part of your passage. It doesn't
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: have to be mental. So let's get to the epigenetic aspect.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: So when you're going that deep, and you know, I
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: imagine that you guys go pretty deep. I had a
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: conversation with my goodness, I think it's Trenton, and we
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: went over you know, the aspect, the finite line between
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: conscious and unconscious process. So how do you really make
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: the mindset out of it? It's a magician like state.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: How do you access this stuff to make the placebo
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: effect affect your steroid? Where your mind is so powerful? Right,
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: how do you break through the critical faculty?
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: What I love about exercise is we don't have to
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: play mind games. We can, but exercise is either a
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: do it or don't. You can check the box now,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: you can be extremely mindful, and you can do it properly,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: and you can do it with focus and tell you
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: can do all that. But if I sit right here
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: and I go, you know what, I know squats are
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: really good for me. I can know that all I want.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I could believe it to the core of my being.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: But until I get up and do some squats, nothing changes.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: And that's really that's really where the rubber meets the
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: road from exercise science. I have a lot of respect
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: for the guys who are teaching individuals how to improve
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: their mental capacity, because is a mental process that can
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: also strengthen the psychology, both conscious and unconscious.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: But when it comes to exercise, I love it. It's
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: so black and white. You either do it or you don't.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: And and where where I'm working with people is is
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I work with a spectrum of individuals in their capability.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: So I might work with with a very high level
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: operator who they're there do it or don't capacity is
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: extremely high. It's like are you ready to move? Yes,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: tell me what to do. Here's the job, and they say,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: consider it done. And and by next week they have
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: done all their homework, they've taken all their supplements, they
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: have gotten all the sleep, they have lifted all the
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: weights right, all the boxes are checked, whether they've felt
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: like it or not. You know, I've had to tell
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: a few highlight level operators you have a fever, go
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: lay down, like like you know, we're not gonna we're
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: not gonna, we're not gonna break any land speed records
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: with your fever.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I don't want you to work this off, I want
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: you to rest right. So so I'm working with a spectrum.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Of individuals whose level of do it is very high.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: But then I'll have I'll have individuals who are really
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: starting at square one. And this is kind of the
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: everyday part of everyday Spy because my high level operators
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: who have trained that capacity within themselves that the show
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: must go on, or the mission, the mission's critical, or
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: they understand all of their why, and that's encompassed in
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: what they're up to. The individual who doesn't get it,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: who has not trained their mind or has not trained
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: their body. What I love about exercise is there's always
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: somewhere we can start. I call it the one percent
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: better every day principle. So if I haven't been walking,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I can start walking if I don't have time to exercise.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I just got off the phone with a lady i'm
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: coaching all the way in the Philippines whose work is
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: very demanding, and she says that she doesn't have ten
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: minutes in a day to exercise. And so where we've started,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: because this is very important. She has a child and
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: she wants to be in good shape for that child,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: and she's been diagnosed with pre diabetes.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: That's not good. That's a path.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Her step right now is to work in two minutes
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: of exercise three times a day in her shift. When
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: she has to get up to go to the bathroom
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: because sorry, you can't pee in a cup, it's not
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: going to work. When she gets up to go to
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: the bathroom, she has to perform this exercise, this exercise,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: this exercise. It's two minutes. It's not a big deal,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: it's not giant. It's not going to change everything today, right,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: But it's a step in the direction of putting that
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: exercise science into practice for herself. And then with that effort,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: with learning how to make space for yourself, learning how
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: to love yourself well, learning how to unite movement with
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: your core missions and values in life. When you start
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: to learn that, you can grow from there. Maybe she
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: can add a few exercises. Maybe she can learn to
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: go for a walk with her daughter. Maybe she can
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: learn that, oh, I get really sore, and when I
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: eat protein, I don't get as sore. You know, all
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: of those things they start compounding, and what happens is
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: if I get one percent better every day. It sounds meager,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: it sounds humble, but over a period of let's say
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: just a year. Compound interest is one of the was
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: it the eighth wonder of the world. You can't even
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: imagine where.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: You've come when you start from there.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: And so what I would say is exercises its own
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: It's its own Nacum's razor in the world of conscious
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: and unconscious belief because you either do it or you don't,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: and you can't believe yourself into it.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: It has to be exercised.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, you could get a bunch of neuroscientists that
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: possibly have a healthy argument about if you think it
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: the mineral passway, doesn't it mimics the same thing, whether
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: you're actionable or inactionable. The brain does it know the difference?
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: So I mean, I mean, I haven't met one of
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: those lives yet. I'm an I'm a what wo we
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: call that? You were a natty bodybuilder.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: These guys would be what metti We'll call them a
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: meditative bodybuilder. I'm a meditative but I just sit around
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: and think about lifting weights and look how big my
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: muscle's got.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Like those people don't exist yet.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Well, well, you know, I mean it all it's all
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: part and parcel, right, It's like belief is the core
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: cornerstone for any sort of like foundation. You understand how
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: important faith is, so you know there is that. You know,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: we we dis down, down play or discountered this place EBA,
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: But that's the most powerful drug on the face of
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: the earth. So far, it's never it's never come close
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: to any funk sort of funded man made drug outweighs placebo.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm so glad you said that.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: So so in my mind when and this this is
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: not We can't research this yet, we haven't figured out
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: how so, so what's really cool about exercise is movement
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: makes a believer out of us. There's a So let's
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: say that I don't believe squats will help me, but
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to do it. By doing it, I have
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: reinforced that this is something worth doing. And so even
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: if I don't believe it's useful, there is a time
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: place where I can't deny the results anymore. But we
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: also find that there is a top down element of
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: belief and exercise that the capacity to adapt, meaning what
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: good you get out of it, increases the more you
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: understand it, the more mindfuler you are of it, and
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: the more the more you believe it's working. Right, So
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: there's a really fascinating study. I can walk through the
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: finer points if you care to. But basically what happens
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: is they lie to people and tell them they have
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: the endurance gene or not. What they learned in this
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: is that if I believe I have the gene but
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I don't, that actually improves my carbon dioxide buffering as
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: if I did. And in the same way, if I
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: have the gene but I believe I don't, that actually
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: significantly hamstrings my my carbon dioxide buffering as if I
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: didn't have the gene.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: So so, to your point, belief is.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: An extremely powerful and extremely important part of the process. However,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: even if I don't understand why I'm doing it, and
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: even if I don't understand what effect it's having on me,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: even if I don't believe it's great but I'm doing it.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: What's cool about exercise is I still get results such
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: that eventually I will make myself a believer, which is
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: pretty cool.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, you want to it's a nice word, buffering,
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: the indocrine system, the chemical fun factory. You want to
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: make sure that you know for for the three treasures
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: of alchemical process within daois and we use you know,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: pioneal athalamus and the pituitary gland must reactivate you. You
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: create the messaging that's necessary to use the culture medium,
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: which is the blood to shuttle the genes on and
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: off through through the power of intention, creating epigenetic response
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: through the format from the center core to the system itself,
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: playing with is gene expressions, and you know, I mean,
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: there's just so much to it. I just know that
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: everything that that's taught internally and all the things that
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: I teach people how to to generate more potency within
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: the biology through the alchemy through the breath, nothing's really
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: been met like endurance wise. Even today, Funk found foundational
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: stuff with Chinese medicine. Is you purge a channel, so
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: of course, just you know, if someone's angry, it's quite simple,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: jump on the spot three times and they're like, well,
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: how did that disappear? Because you're purging the lung, the
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: the liver channel, the spleen channel, the lung channel, all
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: these things are perching energy from the system, which then
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: starts to give you a little relief. The mind is
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: not controlling, the finite mind is not controlling the process.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: There's an autonomous as you said, do it or don't
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: do what exercise that doesn't require your participation where the
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: system on an autonomic level is showing you how powerful
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: it is, regardless of whether you're participating or not. So
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: perching that doing exercise, and fundamentally that's why most people
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: create injury. Understanding the guise of Chinese medicine, all the
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: connective tissue is subject to liver fire. So the power
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: of the liver and what you condense in that lever
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: through your thoughts, feelings, and emotions will determine how much
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: in jeopardy that particular part of the body is. So
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: massage it with fundamental things turning on and off, things
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: like mechanicals, reception to NARSI reception through joint mobility, things
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: where it's circular that you can actually raise a related
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: state of duppamine and bring down the threat level.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: And and what's interesting is as you were naming the
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: brain centers, there's there's one that we're getting more and
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: more research data on called the acc the anterior singulate cortex,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: which is right in that area where you're thalamus here,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: pituitary and pineal right in the middle of that area.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: And in one of the things we're talking about here
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: is this this belief idea and doing it or not
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: doing it right. What's what's interesting is is that area
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: of the brain lights up and get stronger when we
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: do things we don't feel like doing or when things
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: are difficult, and so what happens is we learn how
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: to underplay the suffering. We say that's going to be hard,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: or that's going to hurt, or I don't want to
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: do that or whatever.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: And we overplay the reward. We go.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: But it's worth it because whatever that is. And and
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: oftentimes that's not even a conscious thought. It's like you
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: can make a I was talking to my wife. If
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I want to go for a run and it starts
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: raining outside, that doesn't impact my decision to run at all.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go run raining or not, like I'm gonna
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: run wet or I'm gonna run.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna sweat, so probably run wet no matter what.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't matter. I'm going to run.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: My wife, on the other hand, if it's raining outside
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: and she'd plan to go for a walk, she would
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: go to the window and go I'm not I'm not
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: going to walk in that.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: And in between the two of us, and she would
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: corroborate this, I'm very stubborn and hard headed that that
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: part of me, that anterior signalant cortex, has had.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: Lots of lots of effort full exercise.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I do all sorts of things because it's hard to
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: do them, and I do it on purpose, right and
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: so and so when when somebody goes through that process,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: and I'm not sure how you would how you would
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: describe that from an alchemy perspective, but that it's the
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: same brain region that's involved when somebody goes hmmm, I
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: don't know about this exercise.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Thing, but I'm going to do it anyway.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: And and what's coo is you actually get better and
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: better at that over time. And what's really powerful is
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: that it impacts and affects other aspects of your life. Also, Hey,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: I did my deadlifts, So that argument that I need
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: to have with my boss doesn't sound so hard anymore
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: because I'm getting stronger all around, not just in my muscles,
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: but in the way my mind works too.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Very powerful.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's that's that really soft spot where the
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: periphery makes all the difference for someone that believes that
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: autonomy is not accessible. So you know, when you when
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: you bypass someone's critical faculty, people don't understand what just
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: happened and they're like, how is it? You know? I'll
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: do this quite often in Vegas. I have Magic Day
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: with my kids. The first thing I taught them, and
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: I've got six kids from two years all the way
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: up to fourteen. Whenever they write a passage is normally
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: about five. I'll train them and teach them how to
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: hypnotize people immediately and understand the conscious and unconscious process.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: So when when you can walk up to someone through
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: attonment and literally have them fade into what their will
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: says is not possible, no one will hypnotize me. That
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: is absolutely fundamentally incorrect. I have a strong win will power. Well,
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: your power of will is only good for a fraction
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: of a second when you start to play with the
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: submissive behavior of the subconscious, because that falls into line
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: well before whatever you think consciously. So it's like when
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: you become submissive, like someone attempts to control your will
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: by putting their hand out to ask you, hey, how
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: are you doing. It's like instantly submission is qualified for
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: the individual. People don't understand that it's an ongoing tugger
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: war with someone else's version of power because they're submitting
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: you to their demands. Even though you never asked to
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: shake their hand, You're compelled to because fear and authority
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: are two things that you still haven't worked out in
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: the system. That peripheral stuff is really powerful. If I
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: can walk up to someone and put them into a
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: some ambolistic state inside of thirty seconds or less, because
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: they just drop down deeper, I'd say, I'm sorry. My
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: best time all time is like nine seconds. Okay, now
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: we're talking some ambolistic we're talking a hypnogogic state where
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: people transform themselves. They're no longer limited by their beliefs
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: or their critical faculty. Their whole history is wiped. They
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: can change themselves instantaneously with that same breath. Now, that
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: is something that statistically most people say an average of
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: thirty percent of the population is submissive to that, making
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: them potential game changers. But it's actually much higher. I've
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: never in thirty years come across someone that doesn't drop
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: deep into a trance because you're naturally putting yourself and
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: training yourself into these patterns behavior. If you have a
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: cell phone, a TV, a laptop, you're already training yourself
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: for this. So if I can come up to you
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: put you in a trance, I turn myself into Justin Bieber.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: You have a reverse hallucination. You wake up and go,
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: oh my god, it's just a beaver. Can I get
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: an autograph? And people freak out, They're like, how is that?
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: This is like, let me count this. This is like
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: forty five seconds in your world of everyday spy. This
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: would be covert hypnosis at deeper level, where you're putting
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: things together where people are not aware and they're just
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: like they're part of the animal kingdom. You'll either be
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: consumed or you're consume. It's one or the other. And
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: only would that be used ethically if you're having a
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: purpose for it, maybe your agents are doing whatever, But
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: generally it's speaking. I'm not a fan of linguistical manipulation,
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: which is what most mlprs get up to when they
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: play with this type of stuff to peruse into someone
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: else's psyche. It's not really a fun thing to do.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: But if people want to buy as a kite, Like
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: right now, they're like, yeah, yeah, friends, get out the
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: camera and they're standing what do you want me to do?
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: And sleep? And their friends like, oh, your friends are
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: sleep standing up. What do you want to do? Take
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: their wallet and keys, reverse do whatever, And you'll do that.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: I'll hold their wallet and keys in front of them
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: when they're consciously shaded into a different state, and I'll go, well,
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: you know, have you lost anything? In their friends videotype,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: what's this going? This is horrible? And their friends like, well,
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: I said, what's your name? And they're like and their
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: friends like like, this is the kind of remember and
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: you're holding the wallet and keys in front of them
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: and you're like, hang on, have you lost anything? Well,
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: let's start with your name. What is your name? It's
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: a blank state. Because this is a state of awareness
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: that we all have right now. That's where this placebo
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: aspect is so potent, because if you can meet it
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  Speaker 4: at a level that interchanges the system, and that means
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: the chemical system of the body and then pretty much
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: pop the crystal bottle on anything so that you have
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: to see it. You have to see it, you have
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: to believe it in the sense that once you've experienced
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: it as an experiencer, you have no questions. It's like
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: you'll play a video back and they go, what just
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: happened to me right now? And no, I was not aware.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: I was like, this guy's not kinda there to me.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: Listen to me very carefully. I have the power of
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: my friend because they don't understand. This is all peripheral,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: So your exogenous stressors are affecting the system. If someone
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: comes to me and says, I've had a really bad day,
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: I just fought me with my wife, I'm having stress
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: at my job. I'm going to go out, I'm going
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: to do a workout. I'm going to hit the saw,
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: I'm going to punch I'm like, stop, what do you mean,
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: stop seafood? I need to do all these things. I'm like,
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: you've already maxed out. Your tank is empty. You're going
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: to take five minutes, go out into what's left of daylight,
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: and you're going to breathe that into your body and
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: you're going to submit to the system replenishing itself, not
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: the extra stressor of the weight of the temperature change,
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: hot and cold plunge. I mean, this is fundamentally what
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: we do for alchemy, like the longest I've ever held
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: my breath is eighteen minutes. I'm like, I'm going to
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: beat David Blaine. But it's a trained system. You train
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: the system, so you're and it may sound like kind
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: of woo woo to a lot of people, but within
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: alchemy we go from the biology into consciousness. We're no
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: longer breathing, and within ancient practice we call this bone breathing.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: We're going deep into past the flesh, past the biology,
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: and we're reading beyond that. And most people go, that's ridiculous,
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: that's stupid. Off, let me show you. And that's my
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: old time greatest hit. Most of my students can get
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: six nine minutes and they're moving. So this defies any
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: biology whatsoever. So we're not just like sitting there and
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: going no. The second you resist, it raises the threat level.
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: Now you bleed into it more and more and more
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: where there's no it's what we call inaction to action
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: WU way. Within Daoism, it's like effortless action, effortless effort
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: where that's where you meet the stress, you adapt to it,
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: and then you bleed back out. And so all of
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: a sudden you're no longer being met by stress. When
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: you're compressing that that energy, you're holding it in your
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: transmitting recycling it without any biology, and it's it's defiant
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: to logic, definant to scientism, defiant to so many different things.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: But you have to condition yourself to do that, and
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: that can and take some time. But I've had some
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: students get up to that threshold within you know, six months,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: where you're walking a circle circular and you're gathering energy,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: so the body is now moving. So the understanding of
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: what you're talking about previously throughout this whole conversation, the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: hypoxy effect of oxygen on the mitochondria, what's going on there?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: You have to go how is that even part you're moving?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 4: They have to do eighty one circles one, one thousand
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: and two, one thousand, three, one thousand, four, one thousand
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: and five, one thousand, eighty one times clockwise and then
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: eighty one times counterclockwise, which is young and yin and
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: that's trained right a passage And so sometimes I will
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: meet someone that has that placebo where they're like, yeah,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: I could do it, And I've had students do it
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: in like days, and I'm like that is insane and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: I love it. This is what about the mysteries of
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: the universe, whatever you want to call it. Does that
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: defy a lot of the stuff that you were thinking
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: about from a biological perspective, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't feel like it defies it.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, we live in a very gnostic age where
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: people tend to separate the mind and the body a lot,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: as if they're too separate phenomenon, and I tend to
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: sit pretty firmly in the center, believing that what science
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: actually teaches us is that the body is its own
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: quantum system. And there are many things that we think
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: we understand, but we still haven't gotten to the really
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: the nuts and bolts of how things actually work. And
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I find that to be very powerful and very meaningful.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean we can't draw conclusions about how to
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: use our bodies well, but it does mean we don't
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: always understand why the things do the things they do.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: As an example, so in talking about mitochondria, ATP and hypoxia,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: if I don't breathe, I don't introduce oxygen to the system, right,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: But what's actually happening in ATP? Why does that even
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: create energy at all?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: All?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: ATP is doing is ATP is a holder of electrons.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: So adentizenes in the middle. You have three phosphate ions
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: and they hold electrons. When one of those phosphates dumps off,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: now we have ADP adenosine die phosphate, and that releases
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: electrons that can travel an electric circuit kind of like
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: a battery. My son has a nice remote control car,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: and the electrons can go all the way through there,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: do the work.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: And then your batteries die and you got to change them.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Right, And so when I don't breathe, what I'm doing
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: is I'm cutting off oxygen as a source of electrons.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 2: That's not the only source of electrons that my body's
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: exposed to. In fact, there's actual research right now about
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: how when we stand barefoot on earth, that the earth
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: itself is a source. We call it grounding in some circles,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: but the earth itself is a source of electronegativity and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: of electrons. Sunlight itself seems also to be a source
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: of releasing electrons.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: That's why you can go outside and bask in the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: sun and your body can produce vitamin D from UV light.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: It's like what, that's crazy, But it's there. There's there's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: a source of energy coming from there. So just because
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: we don't understand the mechanism biologically doesn't mean that it's
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: somehow ethereal or metaphysical. If that, If that's helpful, great, fine,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: think of.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: It that way. But but in our world today, what
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: I believe is is these two are very unified things.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: I don't have a body, I am a body. I
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: don't My mind and body aren't separate. They they affect
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: each other.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: And similarly, if I'm if I'm not breathing, but and
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: I'm moving, that doesn't mean I have somehow defied the
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: laws of biology. It means it means that our current
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: understanding of how biology works is insufficient.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: And that's okay.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Like the fact that it exists, that that you have
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: the capacity needed to do that, or that you can
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: teach other individuals to have the capacity to do so,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: means that something is happening that's common among all of us.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: That's worth understanding, especially if it's extremely useful.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's part of the alchemical process, and
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: what we refer to as cheap hacking really saturate the
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: biology with this energy. So within dooois in there's three
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: forms of energy. It's the energy of the constitution that
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: you were born into the world with. It's called JINK.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: That's your measurement of what you're made up of. More fundamentally, DNA,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: what is your constitutional baseline and not never seen anyone
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: start out with more than eighty percent of their battery
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: tap out of one hundred. And then you have the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: environmental CHI that is made up of all the distorted
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: material that's in this what someone would refer to as
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: a plane dimension, whatever you want to call it. And
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: then of course, finally you have the ethereal chi, which
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: is unlimited and untapped. Most people may refer to that
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: as goddo Buddha, where you now have the ability to
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: cultivate that energy and embody it. And so this is
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: where I help people take their eighty bit max out,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: take it to one hundred, then go from one hundred
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: to one thousand, from one thousand to nine thousand, and
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: never ever exceed because there's no limits. You have to
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: learn that there are fundamental building blocks that are necessary.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: So when we do things like electrokinesis or what we
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: refer to more as phaijiin it's where you're cultivating energy
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: and shocking other people, creating electric charge to shock other
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: people that then reset their nervous systems.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me what you think about this, because I'm unfamiliar
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: with that structure, but it makes sense to me. I
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have been able to tell you those words, but
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: it makes sense to me. So, for instance, in every
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: Day Spy, we have a challenge I would invate listeners
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: to join us in this that helps people to improve
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: the health of their mitochondria. We call it operation power Fit,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: and there's no magic to it in scientific ways that
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: you can actually improve mitochondrial health. Right in my mind,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: that would be the jing that you're talking about the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: constitution of myself. What did the taute Ching say? The
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: utility of the glass is in the space it holds
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: for water. It's improving the health of my mitochondria, increases
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: my capacity for energy.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Right the environment what did you call that? Environmental chi
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: It's not jing.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: No, it's just an external distortion. Okay, So the distortion
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: of this state is not whole, it's not absolute, it's
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: not wholly. These are subjective to form things like you know,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: a bottle self phone, the screen. You and I are
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: no longer wholly. We are subject to our environments. So
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: now we need to regain that as a stream, return
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: to what we refer to as heaven on Earth.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: And so and so I can imagine that there are
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: in environments that that I'm in or that you're in,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: that I have more energy or not. Yes, Like one
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: of the one of the environments I have the most
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: energy is when I'm playing with my kids, right.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: I love I love being a dad. And it sounds
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: like it sounds like you you have a joy there too.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: And and even if I'm having a bad day and
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: I don't have any energy, even if I'll just get
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: over the hump of like I don't want to play
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: here I am, it's energizing, right, So so the my
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: mitochondria health might be my capacity to be energized.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: The environment that I'm in my might energize me all
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: by itself.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: But then here's this, here's this weird stick, and that
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: is what what feeds my soul. That would be the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: best way to that, I know how to say it.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: And and so for instance, the way I like to
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: recharge would be to I would fast for a day
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: or two, maybe three. I would go out in the
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: woods somewhere hiking and maybe go fishing in a river
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: out in the middle of nowhere, and I don't even
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: care if I catch anything, although it's fun when you do.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: Right, And that is that might be that.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Third element of energy that you're talking about, because when
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: I come back to my normal life from that state,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: I am a thousand times more energy.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: I'm like raw.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: I can take on whatever, whatever I need to take on.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: I can handle whatever I need to handle, both internal
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: and external.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Right, what I'm passionate about in everyday spy for the
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: average person is both the environmental and the ethereal energies
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: are very impactful and very meaningful, and very joyful and
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: very compounding. However, if my constitution, if my internal structure
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: can't handle more energy, I don't have I don't have
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: good motel chondria health as an example, right, and my
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: body then becomes an obstruction to the things that would
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: otherwise fill me up. And that's that's something I'm very
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: passionate about, is helping individuals get their body to be
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: an asset in that process rather than an impediment in
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: that process. Does that make that when when I describe
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: it like that, because the alchemic alchemical construct of cheese
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: is new to me. But when I describe it like that,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: does that make sense in your construct as well?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I mean if we water it down, it's
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: like the symbiotic dance of yin and yong from one string.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: So understanding that Yin and yong are two polarizing effects
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: of this dualistic experience, You're going to find it anywhere.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: That's the that's the the the the foundational cement to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: your experience, and so in essence, yin is the absorption
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: of ole colors. Young is the emission of ole colors.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: Your omission, if you choose to accept it, is to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: find the center of that and walk through it and
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: recognize that there is no separation. They are wholes. So
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: most people tend to absorb too much one or the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: other and then it becomes a breakdown of the biology.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: So most of the people that come to me are psychics, mediums, channelers, healers,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: all these kind of people that are I'm super special.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: I found the gift and I've been doing it for
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: twenty years. I'm a Brahmin healer. But all of a sudden,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: the hubcaps are coming off the wheels Like I'm healing
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: everyone else, but I've gone to crap. I've like, my
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: whole system is now poison. I've got cancer, I've got
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: fireroid problems, I've got indocrine dysfunction to a point where
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: everything has gone metabolic disorder at its highest level. And
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: I'm like, because you identified as one over the other,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: you're one facet of a diamond that's a whole piece.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: But by absorbing too much of that energy, instead of
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: creating a whole source of yin and yong, you just
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: want to be yin based intuitive extra intuitive bypassing the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: biology and so within downs and when you actualize it
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: through the alchemical process, the biology takes on the trait
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: of we refer to heaven on earth. That means that
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: it's immortalized. We refer to it as a more immortality,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: crystallized in the material state where you're now bringing resonance.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: It's a cultivational resonance. Through respiration and compression, you are
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: crafting and forging this tool that then starts to show
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: itself emanating from the actual physiology that goes beyond any
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: sort of finite processes or understanding of scientism, and so
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: this is where you are not a container, which is
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: the biggest issue people have. They're like, I need to
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: absorb it. You're a bypass. That means you can hold
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: the energy as this tool, this barometer. You're the lightning
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: right and the grounding right at the same time, and
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: you're able to hold that resonance where you would come
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: to a place and you're feeling that. I'm feeling it too, brother,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: You're feeling that charge with that energy. You walk in
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: and you go to a place of worship, whether it's
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: a church, whether it's a mask at temp or whatever,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: and you feel people's enthusiasm for God, Jesus, Buddha, doubt
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: you can feel it as a visceral, sabbatic kinesthetic thing.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: It's like I just walked in here and I can
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: feel the love. It sounds, it sounds corny, it's like
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: it sounds like a wholemark special. I can feel it.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: It's like if even if you can't see it. And
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: that's a part of the sensory perception you develop through alchemy,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: is you can start seeing these things and it's like, oh, well,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: woo woo woof. Harry Potter you lost me in Hello.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: A lot of people don't get that far, but these
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: are skills that are developmental. Five senses are just the
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: baseline of human potential. When you start to really get
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: into the get down, there's really no limit. And so
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: body dowsing is another thing that we develop, where you
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: can feel into the intricacies of any anything or any place,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: personal thing and energy at the myopic level of a
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: grain of sand or the cosmos, you can feel into
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: the degrees of that energy potential and what it actually represents.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: And so this is what we call psychometry from a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: parapsychologist's perspective, where you're able to measure something construct through
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: this what hypnotists would refer to as IDEO motor response.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: So there's a dr motor response where you naturally have
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: this ability to feel into things, and so you're like,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: I can feel your love, I can feel your hatred.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: You are measuring that through your own biology. You're turning fork.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: And the IDEO motor is more commonly used within things
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: when we talk about remote viewing within parapsychology and things
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: of that nature, where you have a target and you're
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: being able to buy low ca and measure that information
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: and bring it back through your mind. And this is
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: what we call idiograms. Now the amazing thing is coming
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: through and you're starting to understand that you have literally
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: have created as of your own communication of what that
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: actually means to you when you're tapping into this information.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: Some people call it woo woo. It's been used by
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: the government for forty years. It's very real. A lot
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: of friends that created the programs for the government in
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: relation to things like mk Ultra and deeper Nature of
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  Speaker 4: three litter organizations that have developed these skills, and that's
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  Speaker 4: probably very familiar with all your friends and peers. That's
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  Speaker 4: what they do. But it's very much like it's not
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  Speaker 4: as it's not as difficult if you understand how to
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  Speaker 4: train in it. But we have the natural sort of
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  Speaker 4: things where you find lay lines and vortices and energy
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  Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff, and it's more what
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  Speaker 4: we call function.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say the wu Wu designation has
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  Speaker 2: a lot more to do with having a difficult time
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  Speaker 2: articulating the ineffable. Ineffable things are by definition difficult to articulate,
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  Speaker 2: so it's like, well, what vocabulary are we going to
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  Speaker 2: use for this? How do we how do we join
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  Speaker 2: these things together? And unfortunately it's it's difficult to find
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  Speaker 2: the right words. Again, I'll come back and rest on
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  Speaker 2: the dead horse I keep beating with regard to exercise,
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  Speaker 2: is that for many individuals, the experience that they need
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  Speaker 2: to have in their body has to be felt through
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  Speaker 2: movement because they have a very heart. They couldn't articulate it.
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  Speaker 2: They wouldn't be able to, they wouldn't be able to
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  Speaker 2: think their way through it. They wouldn't be able to
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  Speaker 2: they wouldn't be able to write about it. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: a matter of actually having to move through it. And
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  Speaker 2: from a Christian perspective, I've always found that to be
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  Speaker 2: a very very powerful way to describe faith.
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  Speaker 3: Is you know, in the in the biblical corpus, whether
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  Speaker 3: Old or New Testament.
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  Speaker 2: The idea that that my journey is a narrow way,
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  Speaker 2: which is what you called it, not too much on
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  Speaker 2: one side, not too much on the other.
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  Speaker 4: A narrow way, not the way now I'm just kidding, a.
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  Speaker 3: Narrow way, and and that that that journey is a
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  Speaker 3: walk with God. It's not a sit with God. It's
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  Speaker 3: not a prayer with God.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a it's not a I don't know meal
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  Speaker 2: with God, although all those are decent metaphors, but what
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  Speaker 2: what it actually what it actually is is a is
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  Speaker 2: a walk in? And why is it a walk On's
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  Speaker 2: because there are just certain things that you don't know
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  Speaker 2: how to say and can't be said. They have to
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  Speaker 2: be experienced, and that that experience is is what I
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  Speaker 2: think comes alive in in movement, whether you're an operator
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  Speaker 2: or a deconditioned individual. And at the core of things,
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  Speaker 2: the only belief really is I want to make the
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  Speaker 2: most out of who I am, what I am, what
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  Speaker 2: I've been given, and I know I'm not there yet,
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  Speaker 2: so so how do we get there?
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  Speaker 3: And and I like to help people do that through movement?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we refer to it as if you're thinking,
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  Speaker 4: you're not knowing, if you're knowing, you are feeling. This
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  Speaker 4: part of the connection we have with the wu g
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  Speaker 4: which is the primordial Mother, the absolute holy stream to
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  Speaker 4: everything that animates everything. You refer to it as God.
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  Speaker 4: And then by connecting with that with your attention intension,
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  Speaker 4: you evoke your spirit self, your immortal self in a
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  Speaker 4: material state. This activates what we call wu wi, which
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  Speaker 4: is effortless action effortless effort see serendipitous moments, which is
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  Speaker 4: kind of like where most people want. You know, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: my manifesting coach told me this is how I get there,
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  Speaker 4: and you know whatever. Okay, let's start with being a
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  Speaker 4: recipient experiential moments is how you do that.
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  Speaker 2: The first time I ever felt that was in martial arts,
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  Speaker 2: was learning through I studied through an individual who learned
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  Speaker 2: the kung fu through the Shallon Temple.
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  Speaker 3: So it's very influenced by that that end that the
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  Speaker 3: Wu way.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how else you experience it, but the
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  Speaker 2: for us it was it was in a fight learning
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  Speaker 2: how to effortless, effortlessly move oneself in conjunction with the
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  Speaker 2: instinctual desire. And there was a whole process of conditioning,
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  Speaker 2: and a whole process of technique learning, and a whole
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: process of of even even developing your mind so that
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  Speaker 2: you're not focused necessarily on what you're doing next, but
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  Speaker 2: actually what you're what you're experiencing and feeling through your
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: opponent at the time, right, And and those are those
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  Speaker 2: are all very powerful ideas that that intersect at this
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  Speaker 2: movement that we're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what we call Shangong spirit projection when
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  Speaker 4: you if you have an opponent, I'm kind of a
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  Speaker 4: dirty plaque as I see or and I see the older.
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  Speaker 4: So all I'll do is fixate on your weakest link.
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  Speaker 4: If you're extremely angry, I just got to your liver
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  Speaker 4: and I massage to a point where there's nothing but
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  Speaker 4: beg for mercy or if because we look at the
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  Speaker 4: channel of the elements within the body, heart, liver, lungs, spleen,
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  Speaker 4: and kidneys, and each one holds mental emotional states. And
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  Speaker 4: so you look at one that's excessive, that's overflowing with
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  Speaker 4: a bunch of stagnant energy, and then you attack accordingly,
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  Speaker 4: and then that chain then like a domino, stuts to
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  Speaker 4: one fold. So you hit someone who has an excess spleen,
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  Speaker 4: You hit that and you'll have them on their knees
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  Speaker 4: in five seconds with complete mercy because their kidneys are
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  Speaker 4: approaching at a fear level that evokes that emotion from
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  Speaker 4: that channel. And so you realize how the thoughts, feelings,
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  Speaker 4: and emotions are so transitory and impermanent, yet they're stored
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  Speaker 4: within the body until otherwise noted. Because people still believe
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  Speaker 4: it's a container that's a mistake. They don't understand how
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  Speaker 4: to condition it and then furthermore recirculate it, repurpose it,
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  Speaker 4: throw it back into the wood chipper, and return to
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  Speaker 4: a holy state.
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  Speaker 2: Man, this has been such a great conversation. I'm coming
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  Speaker 2: up on time for myself. Is there anything that we
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  Speaker 2: didn't cover that we need to.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. We've covered a lot of stuff, my friends,
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  Speaker 4: we have, Man, I think what's what's most important is
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  Speaker 4: getting out the messaging for Everyday Spy, your program, what
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  Speaker 4: you're what you're in charge of, and helping everything that's
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: moving through the Everyday Spy program and what do you
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  Speaker 4: offer and everything that's within the system.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thanks for that, I think.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's very tied to our entire conversation, which
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  Speaker 2: I've had to summarize, is is this this very deep
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  Speaker 2: intersection between how we feel, how we think, how we
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  Speaker 2: know ourselves, what we actually do with ourselves, and what
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  Speaker 2: the net effect is in both my body but also
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: in the world around me. And so what we do
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: in spyfe it is we work hard to make the
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  Speaker 2: most out of the body that people have, whether you're
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: an operator or not. And I would invite listeners if
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: this conversation has been useful. If there have been things
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: that I've said that have been helpful to you or
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: practical to you, or lit on a light bulb in
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: the head, I would invite you not just to think
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: about this, but to walk through it with us. And
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: the link that I've given song here will connect you
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: with our ten day Operation Powerfit Challenge. It's free to you,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: and it will definitely do some powerful things and if
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: you if you'll actually walk through it, not just think
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: about it, but actually walk through it. And I appreciate
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to be here, man, I.
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  Speaker 4: Really appreciate you taking the time out. I want everyone
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: to go out, students, subscribers, everyone to go out and
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: experience what Coach Alex is offering here and go through
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: it and find more about yourself through this self revelation,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: which is really what most of the systems are. They
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: help you be more aware of who you are, and
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: this system is an exemplary example of that. So we
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: want to make sure that people take advantage of the
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: wealth of wisdom, not just knowledge, but wisdom that comes
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: from your organization and what you're teaching people that goes
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: way beyond any of the gobbling gook and the rhetoric
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: and the propaganda that comes out of social media, You're
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: going to find it there. So social social sphere and
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: interweb will be under this podcast where you can find
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: coach Alex personally. Maybe you have your own website other things,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: as well as the training system of Everyday Spy. So again,
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  Speaker 4: I want to thank you again, my friend, for sharing
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  Speaker 4: your time with me today.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent, man, it was awesome. Thank you
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  Speaker 3: for the time. So much done.
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