Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / 6 Things Men Want In Bed
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- 0:04Hi everybody, and welcome to episode 15 of the doctor.
- 0:10Psych mom, show today. I am going to be talking about
- 0:14what men really want in bed, because I just spoke about in
- 0:20the last episode, what women really want in bed.
- 0:22Now, a lot of people would think that men find it easier to
- 0:28communicate what they want in bed, but those people would be
- 0:31wrong. And in In fact in the couples
- 0:36that I see while men may have higher sex drives at least
- 0:40two-thirds of the time. They don't really say much of
- 0:44what they really deeply Craven bed because they are scared of
- 0:50seeming gross or needy or you know perverted or any of these
- 0:57things to their wives. The worst thing for a man, it's
- 1:01being sexually rejected. I mean it's bad for women to as
- 1:05I discuss and within a long-term relationship, a man feels that
- 1:10if he offends his partner by asking for something that she
- 1:14finds disgusting, he is going to be banned from sex.
- 1:19I mean, this doesn't happen. But, you know, most it's not
- 1:23like you say, hey, you know what?
- 1:25I would really like to 69 and she says, well, that's it.
- 1:28I'm out. No more.
- 1:29For you of any kind, you disgust me that doesn't actually happen.
- 1:33But more anxious men within marriage, where sex has been an
- 1:38issue. Frequently, worried that somehow
- 1:42their wife will just lose Steam and just turn off to him if he
- 1:47asks for the wrong thing. So what is the first thing
- 1:53there's going to be six things? By the way, six things that men
- 1:56want in bed because I'm even Steven with the what women want
- 1:59in bed post which had six things.
- 2:02So the first thing that men really want in bed is foreplay.
- 2:06So this is a great misconception that men just one quick.
- 2:10He's I don't know. Any in fact I always have women
- 2:13in my sessions that are exhausted that say why can't we
- 2:16ever just have a quickie and the guys like well I mean a quick.
- 2:20He's nice sometimes Times. But, you know, I mean, that's
- 2:22not really what you know, like, he doesn't really want to have a
- 2:25quickie. The only time when men really
- 2:27want quickies is when it is within the backdrop of an
- 2:32otherwise fulfilling, sex, life that has lots of variety, then a
- 2:36quickie can be for a variety for excitement, if it's, you know,
- 2:40somewhere where you might get caught, but the average man does
- 2:43not in any way. Want a quickie, he wants a long
- 2:45experience involving for play and potentially multiple
- 2:50multiple. Orgasms, at least for the woman
- 2:52but hopefully for both depends on his age there.
- 2:55If he could eke, one out another one for him, but either way, he
- 2:58wants to have a long experience. So this is the number one thing
- 3:03that men particularly men with a sexual sensual love style.
- 3:09So you can take the erotic blueprint quiz that, I reference
- 3:12in many of my podcasts and if the man has a more sensual
- 3:16style, he's going to really want a lot of foreplay.
- 3:21The next thing that a man wants is to please his partner.
- 3:26Women are consistently very surprised when I turned to a man
- 3:30and couples counseling and I say what is more important her
- 3:33orgasm or your orgasm her enjoying herself or you enjoying
- 3:37yourself and they say her her orgasm, her enjoying herself.
- 3:41That is what is most important to me most men get off on their
- 3:46Partners enjoyment and for a woman to just lay there.
- 3:51Like a deceased starfish, submitting, to sex, is the
- 3:57biggest turnoff, and not only turn off to men, but it's also
- 4:01very demoralizing and really does a number on their
- 4:05self-esteem, to view your wife sitting there, like, you know,
- 4:10laying there, like something dead, that doesn't want to be
- 4:14there. That is just trying to power
- 4:16through this experience, so they want to please their Wives.
- 4:21But as I discuss in other podcast, like the previous one
- 4:26about what women want, a lot of women don't really know what
- 4:29they want. They know this a net but they
- 4:30don't know what it is. That would it be better?
- 4:33Because either, they haven't had a lot of experience or they have
- 4:36never found themselves with enough courage to say something
- 4:41or they don't really know what they want.
- 4:42Remember women do not research sex as assiduously as many men
- 4:46do now. Unfortunately, most immense
- 4:49research comes in the Consuming a lot of porn variety, which
- 4:53doesn't actually teach you how to please an actual woman,
- 4:57which, you know, circles back to the original problem here, which
- 5:01is that it can then be the blind leading the blind.
- 5:04The woman doesn't really know what she wants, she doesn't
- 5:07really know how to have a better experience.
- 5:09The man is doing some stuff out of pouring, that seems like the
- 5:12woman and the TV likes it or the phone nowadays and doesn't work
- 5:16for his wife and it's really frustrating experience.
- 5:20This is why it's it's so key for women to try to understand their
- 5:23bodies more so that they can tell their partner, what they
- 5:26like as well as for men to research, you know, other
- 5:29techniques and other ways of understanding women.
- 5:33I mean refer back to my previous episode about what women want so
- 5:37that the woman can, in fact, be pleased.
- 5:39And this number two can come to fruition.
- 5:43Now, number three is imagination and variety most men do not want
- 5:48to be doing the same thing all the time.
- 5:51And if it is, you know, the position that they really like,
- 5:54even if it's oral sex, they don't want to be doing the same
- 5:57exact thing every time. Nobody really does a man or
- 6:02woman, but people with lower libidos will find some sort of
- 6:06comfort in the fact that they know what's coming and it'll be
- 6:10over soon. This is not the average higher
- 6:12libido, man, he doesn't want it to be over soon.
- 6:14He wants to explore to feel creative.
- 6:18He wants the same sort of creative expression.
- 6:21Experience that he, you know, thought that marriage and
- 6:25relationships would be when he was a younger man, where you
- 6:29explore each, other's bodies, and figure out what each other
- 6:31likes. And try a whole bunch of new
- 6:33things. Now like women men also want
- 6:39number four which is sex as a stress reliever or a respite
- 6:44from the banalities of daily life work.
- 6:48Often sucks, your kids can be annoying.
- 6:51There are money problems, health issues, and what have you
- 6:55everybody struggles with these things?
- 6:57After the age of you know, 20-something and sex can
- 7:01actually be a very good way to bond and relationship?
- 7:05If stress on a regular basis, if both Partners think of it this
- 7:09way. So men don't really know how to
- 7:12articulate this to their wives. They don't know how to say, I
- 7:16want to be in a special world, just the two of us.
- 7:19If they said something like that, the wife might like it.
- 7:22She might think that was romantic.
- 7:23But instead, they say want to go upstairs and nobody really wants
- 7:29to go upstairs that bad when they are being pursued in a way
- 7:33that they find to be boring, or A half-hearted.
- 7:36But if they knew how much their husband wanted to really make
- 7:41their sex life into an escape, a respite a Haven and someplace
- 7:48where you both. Please one another and you are
- 7:50close physically and emotionally, then women would
- 7:55get on board with this as well. Because this is something that
- 7:57many women crave two people. Do not just want to be, you
- 8:02know, parents and employees. I want to also be sexual
- 8:07entities, and to have that whole part of themselves there, they
- 8:14don't want that part to die. They want that part to be
- 8:17accessed on a regular basis. At least many people want that
- 8:23The next one is a confident and assertive partner.
- 8:28Most women want a confident and assertive partner and men are no
- 8:33different. Men's fantasy is of a woman
- 8:35taking charge so that they can finally throw off the, you know,
- 8:40this burden of having to figure out what to do in bed.
- 8:44Women talk a lot about emotional labor.
- 8:46But men frequently do a lot of the quote emotional labor in the
- 8:49bedroom because the woman's with a lower libido.
- 8:52She's Kind of like, well shit. I don't want to be here as much
- 8:55as you do. So you make this happen.
- 8:57If you took your husband to Paint and Sip night, you would
- 9:01act pretty enthusiastic about painting and sipping because you
- 9:04know, it's not his thing. Well in the bedroom, if it's
- 9:08understood in your marriage that sex is quote his thing, not
- 9:11yours. Then you know, both people can
- 9:14fall into this trap where the husband is thought to always
- 9:18then have to initiate because after all he's the one with the
- 9:21higher libido while I There, stand that pragmatically and
- 9:25Men, definitely, I encouraged to initiate if that is what your
- 9:29wife likes and puts her in the mood, if they have to always
- 9:32initiate and if they are again, like the blind leading the
- 9:35blind, because the woman never tells them what they're getting
- 9:38right or wrong. And they have no feedback and
- 9:42they have to initiate a sexual encounter, which they're not
- 9:45even sure if she likes it at all, then this could be pretty
- 9:48again demoralizing, which is kind of the adjective for
- 9:53unfortunately, for many married men, sex lives as a whole
- 9:56demoralizing. Now, you don't want that to be
- 9:58your husband. That sounds sad.
- 10:00So open, not open-mindedness. That's spoiler.
- 10:05Spoiler, that's going to be the next one open-mindedness, but if
- 10:08you are take charge and even a little bit more dominant in the
- 10:12bedroom at times, not like all the time, like sometimes, then
- 10:17that can be a lot of variety which will hit that button and
- 10:21also it'll make him feel desired.
- 10:23Men really want to feel desired because if they are in the
- 10:26situation where they're known to be the higher libido partner,
- 10:29then you get to feel desired, but they don't really get to
- 10:32feel desired ever in that situation because they know that
- 10:37you could take her. Leave sex, what's the saying?
- 10:39Whoever cares less wins. So you win as a lower libido
- 10:44partner and it's no great prize. You know it's an unhappy husband
- 10:48and a bad marriage or a marriage that isn't as strong as it could
- 10:52be. And now the last one, although
- 10:55I'm going to go back and flush, some of these out is
- 10:58open-mindedness, a man does not want to be shamed for his sexual
- 11:02desires or his preferences and Nordic women, of course.
- 11:07But men frequently have thought more about their sexual
- 11:11preferences and desires being. As they have innately higher
- 11:14libidos, a majority of the time with in monogamy.
- 11:16And so, they don't want to say something like, oh, I really
- 11:20would want to try tying you up and the woman's like, ew.
- 11:23No, what am I a prisoner? This is the 21st century like,
- 11:26no, like that's a little bit much and that's shaming.
- 11:29And that makes somebody feel less than and inferior and sad,
- 11:35and lonely, and all of the things that portend not very
- 11:39good sexual encounter or relationship.
- 11:42So, this is why open-mindedness is key.
- 11:46Now, the one thing that I would say that women really do not
- 11:51understand about what men want and this goes back to the whole
- 11:56foreplay thing, the misconception that men don't
- 11:58want foreplay is the idea that men do not want there to be
- 12:04tenderness or care in bed and that they just want fucking.
- 12:09So they don't think that men want the tenderness and the, I
- 12:15love yous and the stroking and caressing that the women
- 12:20themselves want What I call this is love and care fantasies.
- 12:28Love and care fantasies are actually what men in my practice
- 12:32seem to want the most. So they want a woman who takes
- 12:36time and tells them that they love them and says that they're
- 12:40attractive and makes them feel desired.
- 12:44Most men do not get to feel desire during the sexual
- 12:47experience at all. Most of it is them telling the
- 12:52woman, how desirable she is, but the man himself never gets to
- 12:55feel that he is wanted. Dated, so, I can link you to my
- 13:00love and care fantasies post. This is what many men urine for
- 13:05but they feel really embarrassed and stupid saying that they want
- 13:09something that seems so not masculine.
- 13:13Now, of course, it's masculine the same women that are staunch
- 13:17feminists and say that gender roles are all fucked up.
- 13:21Usually have a little harder time when the man is being
- 13:25vulnerable, then they would really ever It so even if
- 13:30intellectually a woman believes that both men and women should
- 13:34be vulnerable and should be taken care of.
- 13:37It's a little bit harder to do it in practice when women have
- 13:41been trained by the exact same quote, patriarchy that men have
- 13:45been trained on and that includes this idea of a man as
- 13:50always, very strong and able to take care of the woman and not
- 13:54really need any care in return. So in bed, Bed.
- 13:58A man is then supposed to be very confident and only want to,
- 14:04you know, engage in very energetic, physical encounters
- 14:08with perennially hard erection, and not really need any sort of
- 14:14reassurance and never to be the object of the attention.
- 14:19Rather, the woman to be the object of attention.
- 14:22This is all the idea. I mean porn is like this, you
- 14:26know, and This is the idea behind you know, men that say
- 14:32that they want love and care fantasies.
- 14:34It's because it goes against the strop and finally they get to be
- 14:38the recipient of feeling adored and desired and they can be
- 14:43vulnerable themselves. They don't have to be doing to
- 14:49rather. They could be the recipient of
- 14:52having somebody engage in loving, touch to them with them
- 14:57being the The object. This is why men like oral sex so
- 15:00much which I can link you to that post as well.
- 15:04Women seem to make this all about domination and rarely, is
- 15:10it about domination? It can be about domination.
- 15:13But there, listen, I'm 40 years old.
- 15:16Most of my listeners are around my age.
- 15:20Either way, we're not teenagers. Don't listen to that.
- 15:23I mean, really, honestly, the thing that most men say to me is
- 15:27man Wish you could talk to my young son, 20 years old about
- 15:30what, to look for in a woman. So I misspeak, if you're a young
- 15:34person, you really should be listening to this, although I
- 15:38would probably have to be on Tick, Tock saying this stuff for
- 15:40them to listen, but maybe one day, either way what I'm saying
- 15:45is for young, young men, that have grown up on internet porn.
- 15:49There's all this choking and all this stuff with blow jobs that
- 15:55older men really not as As into, that could be okay for a
- 15:59variety, but the idea behind why men who are married?
- 16:03Tend to want oral sex men who were in their 30s, plus is not
- 16:07for Domination as much as for attention and focus and love and
- 16:14tenderness. And a woman really trying to do
- 16:17what you want for a change and it really is for a change in
- 16:22marriage. If you speak too many married
- 16:24men, they do not get to do a lot of what they want to do.
- 16:27Men say they don't either but you know there are different
- 16:32areas in which both people don't get to do what they want to do
- 16:35and usually women are the gatekeeper of what goes on in
- 16:38bed because they're the gatekeeper of whether it's sex
- 16:40happens at all and so men don't really get to have sex be as
- 16:45much about them. They're supposed to be just
- 16:48happy to have it at all and when you're supposed to be just happy
- 16:51to have anything at all. You know you kind of get less
- 16:54happy over time. Just like if you say to your
- 16:57kid, Did their whining and complaining about dinner and you
- 17:00say, well, you should be happy to eat at all.
- 17:02Yeah, you have a point but you know that doesn't make them love
- 17:05dinner when they didn't love dinner before.
- 17:07Same thing with sex. If your husband is asking for
- 17:10oral sex and you say, well you ought to be just happy to be
- 17:12getting laid while. Yeah you got a point I guess
- 17:16it's not a real marriage you know strengthening point and
- 17:20over time will be a marriage eroding and bitterness provoking
- 17:24point. So this is why men have Disease
- 17:28about somebody finally, doing something that they want to do.
- 17:31Also, this goes back to the fact that men were always supposed to
- 17:36be just lucky to get laid and so throughout their lives, it's not
- 17:40like before you when they were young, they had all these women
- 17:43that were just trying to meet their needs.
- 17:46There usually is a period where like a woman is more trying to
- 17:50audition and her adrenaline is pumping, and her hormones are
- 17:54pumping. This is called the honeymoon
- 17:56stage. But even in the honeymoon stage,
- 17:59you know, most men are not the, they're still supposed to be
- 18:03getting lucky. That's that's the freight.
- 18:06You don't say that a woman is getting lucky.
- 18:08And I'll say, oh, I hope I go to the bar tonight and get lucky
- 18:11mean. If your woman, you go to the
- 18:12bar, you want to get laid. This is not a matter of luck.
- 18:15This is a matter of asking somebody, whereas for men, it's
- 18:18getting lucky. Okay, fine.
- 18:20But with in Intimate Relationships, a man's dream is
- 18:24that it should be like he's has to beg to get Lucky all the
- 18:28time. He hopes that that went away.
- 18:30It's just like masturbation. Most women don't realize that
- 18:33the majority of men find it very shameful to have to masturbate
- 18:38repeatedly within marriage because the way that they viewed
- 18:41marriage was that they would not have to do that anymore that
- 18:44would be a relic of their single years one that they don't
- 18:47particularly want to revisit. So it would just be the idea of
- 18:52masturbating within marriage. Too Many Men is like the idea or
- 18:56high libido. Women find it just a shameful of
- 18:59a high libido. Woman is supposed to be using
- 19:02married. She thinks that she's going to
- 19:04be having sex when she wants and not having to rely on a
- 19:07vibrator, you know. So this is not a shame anybody
- 19:11for masturbation, merely to alert people who are lower
- 19:15libido to the fact that masturbation is not a surrogate
- 19:19for sex and the eyes of a high libido person.
- 19:22In fact, it is considered by many to be like what in the
- 19:25hell? Why do I have to be doing this?
- 19:27If I have a partner that I love and we're supposed to be trying
- 19:30to please each other and we're supposed to find each other
- 19:32attractive. So this is, I mean, could be its
- 19:36own podcast series is the misconceptions about
- 19:40masturbation and its equivalence it low libido.
- 19:44People frequently say, well, to the partner will, why don't you
- 19:46just masturbate? Because it's not about that.
- 19:48It's not about a physical release, it's rather about the
- 19:52expression of tenderness of Love of Desire of Ville of
- 19:57acceptance. None of these things can be done
- 20:00just by masturbating. And in fact, with porn, you can
- 20:04get yourself into this dream world, where you do have an
- 20:08endless parade of women who look, approving and accepting
- 20:14and Desiring. And all that's going to do is
- 20:17make you more addicted to that fantasy world of porn and less
- 20:21invested in the relationship. So it's bi-directional, I tell
- 20:25people, stop masturbating, stop. Using porn so that you could
- 20:29focus on your actual sex life but then in their actual sex
- 20:32life if the person doesn't want to be with them, well you know,
- 20:36I mean then W then you ought to get into couples and Sex Therapy
- 20:39is then W, but most people just demoralize go back into porn,
- 20:43you know. It's a vicious cycle and I could
- 20:45talk about that ad infinitum anyhow back to the topic at
- 20:51hand. I frequently you know go off on
- 20:53tangents like this but there will be enough pot.
- 20:57I'd cast eventually that I can explore all of these topics in
- 21:01depth individually, anyhow. The point here is that men want
- 21:07to be desired and treated as an object of desire and love and
- 21:12somebody who deserves attention physically, emotionally and
- 21:16sexually the same as women do. And so this is something to
- 21:21understand about why men want floorplan why they want very
- 21:24different sorts of interactions in real life.
- 21:27Then the quickie that is offered and my analogy in the post would
- 21:32be what if a woman said that she wanted to go out to dinner and
- 21:35have a nice date night and the man drove at Breakneck speed to
- 21:38the restaurant, nearly killed them.
- 21:40Yelled at the waiter. Got the meal instantaneously
- 21:43encouraged her to shove it down her gullet, as fast as she could
- 21:47raced back home, relieve the babysitter then turned to her
- 21:50with a smile. And said, had you like dinner?
- 21:52How'd you like date night? Isn't that what you've been
- 21:54asking for? No, this is a quick Key to men,
- 21:58that's the equivalent, that's not what they want.
- 22:00They want the long experience, the same as the woman would want
- 22:03romantically. Now, if you're a man that does
- 22:05not offer this sort of date night, but then expects a long
- 22:08drawn-out sexual experience. Well, then you're a fool, right?
- 22:11I mean, you gotta give some to get some, and this is why I
- 22:15frequently exhort men to up the romance game, if they want the
- 22:20woman to up the sex gay, people are just people, nobody's out to
- 22:24get anyone, you know? I mean there's bitterness and
- 22:26relationships. But usually, if one person moves
- 22:29forward, the other person will also move forward.
- 22:32It's really hard. After life is beautiful date
- 22:36night that let's say a man planned and was so romantic to
- 22:39then be cool even in your own mind.
- 22:42And with your own conscience about never having sex with him,
- 22:45or having sex with him. In some resentful manner, you
- 22:48don't want to do that because we guys being nice, he's trying,
- 22:53you know, however, if you've been asking for like a date
- 22:56night for Less, it's 15 years and the closest you Dad is the
- 23:00drive-thru and he never calls a babysitter.
- 23:02And you've never gotten flowers and the past two years, then are
- 23:07you going to really be up for like giving him a one-hour blow
- 23:10job because that's his fantasy? Hell, no, obviously not that
- 23:14does not take me to tell you. You know, why would that woman
- 23:17want to get out of her comfort zone?
- 23:20I don't know. The man certainly isn't.
- 23:22So it takes two to tango, which is the really the up?
- 23:27Shot and the theme of everything I talked about in couples
- 23:30counseling. It's never just one person.
- 23:32Is the problem that is a fantasy, that's a fiction to
- 23:35people. And either one of those people,
- 23:37by the way, could be the one to come forward and really change
- 23:40the tenor of the relationship. Whether it's sexually or
- 23:43emotionally and I am done with this topic for now, I'm sure I
- 23:49will come back to it but I did look at my analytics and half of
- 23:53my listeners are men, which I guess would not be a shock since
- 23:57I talked. So much about sex within
- 23:58marriage but about like two-thirds or three-quarters of
- 24:02my blog readers are women. So I was pleasantly surprised.
- 24:06So thank you to all my male listeners, thank you to my
- 24:08female listeners. And, of course, as I always say,
- 24:11if this resonated with you, share it with your partner,
- 24:15maybe people are really doing that.
- 24:17And maybe that's why I have half men, and half women that are
- 24:20listening because people are listening and sharing this
- 24:22podcast with their partner. I don't think it's too long.
- 24:26I try to keep it bite. Sized.
- 24:28I am escaping from my kids right now by recording this thing in
- 24:31the bathroom. Which is why it's going a little
- 24:33long because I do like my alone time right now for the second,
- 24:38but I will, I will have to end and go back to mommy duty and I
- 24:42wish you all a great Martin Luther King weekend and talk to
- 24:46you guys soon.