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- 0:00SPEAKER_04: Habarim Tanzania, Mambo Vipikariusana Mailezo podcast tapa Sisi Bwana, tuna chimba kwakina kuhusu watu, uh, wanawihusu Tanzania, kuhusu vitu, kuhusu sehemu, kuhusu ta sisi na kuhusu tarati bumbalimbali, amba uko nani nchietu ya Tanzania.
- 0:17SPEAKER_04: Nakateka episodi hiya Leo ipia sleyman nimeketi hapu na jiwa kabisa kunajambo.
- 0:23SPEAKER_04: Nikuna uhrugenziyo maende leo ya ushirika, kuta shirikishu la viyama via uxirika Tanzania yanaito Florian Otmar Haule.
- 0:33SPEAKER_04: Karibu sana mailezo podcast.
- 0:35SPEAKER_04: Asante sana nbiana.
- 0:37SPEAKER_04: Kim kimunekawa ni sema karibu sana.
- 0:39SPEAKER_04: Kwasababu kimonekanu noweza kunekana mtumzima sana, lakini yonasema uhze mushu hapi.
- 0:46SPEAKER_04: Chihacharis.
- 0:48SPEAKER_04: Ukisha fika, ukisha fika mjini kamtu.
- 0:51SPEAKER_04: Ki kijana.
- 0:51SPEAKER_04: Kijana kika kabis.
- 0:53SPEAKER_04: Yapu haito ondoa heshima mba wuna pasuani kupatye, kama mtumba umezidi umbre.
- 0:58SPEAKER_04: Karibu sana melezo.
- 0:59SPEAKER_04: Itabidu salimiye kwanz.
- 1:00SPEAKER_04: Shkamo malava.
- 1:02SPEAKER_04: Ikoile wansema Heshimayako, una kome umejif um bado huyato heshima.
- 1:07SPEAKER_04: Kasema Heshimayako siyo salam kwa swahil.
- 1:10SPEAKER_04: Shikamo inana nafasiak.
- 1:11SPEAKER_04: Kabisa kabisa.
- 1:12SPEAKER_04: Sabana.
- 1:13SPEAKER_04: Sasa uh wwana Florian Haule ye to konai hapa tutazungumza kwakina sanaku syana na ushirika.
- 1:19SPEAKER_04: Uenda kona sikia tu koncept ushirika, uširika, kunavili mbavio takwona faham kuhusu ushirika, lakine leu tutai fahamu kweli kuhusu ushirika.
- 1:29SPEAKER_04: Bwana uh Florian miminianzi hapa.
- 1:31SPEAKER_04: Nimekwani ki iske u shirika tangu tukiwa uh tuko shuleni, shule msinki, naskia kumba, kati flani tanzania, kuli kuwa kuna hum fumo, uhio tuna kuta skia kunale duka pale la ushirika, kwaivu tuka faham kumba u shirika, kumbeni watu fulani yambao kwamfanu sana sana swa iskia hiku yekilimu, kwamba mtakusanya mazawenu andenda kuzwa, na mtu mojem na kwa na kauli mojja na vitu kamahive, toifahamu, mana, halisi hasaya usirika.
- 2:02SPEAKER_01: Sante sanan dugiangwe piana uhwanza nafraisana, kuapamujanani katika ki pindhiki, karibsa, hasaku zungumzia kuusu, dana izima ya ushirika.
- 2:15SPEAKER_01: Naaniseme to, kwamba ni tajjita hidi nikitende haki, iri you laneto sikirisa weze kuelewa kwamba hi ushirika nikitugani, kwasababu, mahala pengini pumekupe hatana ku kuchanganya kwamba wane wenginoita vikundi, wengenuita ushirika, mbida pana hasaleo nazane tumiya nafasi, kwida da vo vizuri ku suzana zima, iaushurika.
- 2:38SPEAKER_01: Kama ribiosema, kwamba mdana yaushirika pancini, inamdamref.
- 2:44SPEAKER_01: Hm, tuna zugumzia, wepema yushurika pancini kwa zede miyaka miya saidi.
- 2:48SPEAKER_04: Miyaka, mia moja, kwahio kwakijana kamo kabla hataya tanganika kupata whuru, tanganika nazanziba kungga.
- 2:58SPEAKER_01: Hakika, hakika tume kwepo, nahi dana yaushrika patunazungumzia, miyaka ifumojia miyatesa na ishurine nakit, tuko nadana yaushurika hapampien.
- 3:07SPEAKER_01: Kweoko fupi na kutaka kuhabi riku habarisha iri mskirizaja tueleo vizuri, kwamba ushurika ni mundo ambao, kimsingi una undwa, na amununanzishu nawale, ambao wanataka kutatua aina flaniya changamoto.
- 3:26SPEAKER_01: Kwahio ni mundo mbao, e watu, zaidi ya moja, ambao, wanakabiriana na changamoto zinazu fanana, na, iri kupata suruhishu rahiu changamoto nene falana, wanasema hapana, pekeangu siwezi, isipu kua, nikiwa na mwenzangu, nikiwa nawenzango, tunaweza kwa pamoja tukachatua, kizo changamoto.
- 3:49SPEAKER_01: Sasezu changamoto mbazo ha watu kutana pamoja, kuzitatua, zinezo kuwa katika, nyan chambari mbal, zinezu weni changamoto ya mitagi, changamoto ya masoko, changamoto yaimu, changamoto ya afia, changamoto ya ksafilishaji, changamoto ya makazi, kuyo utaona kwamba si hakuna changamoto ye ainamoja, ambayo inarazimicha, mtu au kikund awjami flani, kuingia katekam fumu wshurika.
- 4:19SPEAKER_01: Sasahao ambao wana ingia katekam fumo uushurika, kwamba tuna takatwepa moja, kuajiriya kuta tua, changamoto e aina flani, hawa, ndio huanzisha, chama chhaushirika.
- 4:33SPEAKER_01: Sasa hichu chama chhaushirika kama nifusema, kinezo koni chama chaushirika wmazau, chama chhaushirika wafe, chama chaushirika wa safirishaji, chamachaushirika wa madini, kuekatika secta zot, inategemea ha wat wako katika secta it.
- 4:51SPEAKER_01: Sasa how ambao wwame amuwa kuwa katika mfumuwa uhwa kwetu tuna tuna tasi tuna uh instrument uh nyenzo zinazu si mamiya huomfumu.
- 5:07SPEAKER_01: Na nyenzo moja pamba inasimamiya wfumu, niseria ya usiriika.
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: Sasautawona kwamba niwatu raya, mba wana jikusanya pamoja, kwa jiriya kutawa, changamoto flani.
- 5:22SPEAKER_01: Lakini katika kuchachulu kuta tua, hizo changamoto, watahita ji kuwa, kukusanya kwanza, lasili mali zainafanyzo kwa, lasimarifeza, lasimaringufu, chechuote ki ramachona kikusanya.
- 5:35SPEAKER_01: Sasa ili ku kisiwe na upindifu au kupotea, kwakiro ucho kikusanya, serikari ndipuna po kuya, kuweka mifumu yausimamis.
- 5:46SPEAKER_01: Namfumu wujapambao umeweka e umewekwa pakakwetu, ni sheria, yaushirika, umbayo ipwinayusi mamiya, sheria namba sita moke fumbiri nakumi natatu, iriu fanyua, marekebbisho, yumake fumbiri naushirini, natan, pamojanakanuni zake.
- 6:04SPEAKER_01: Sasahayotia, sheria, kanuni, sera, ndizu zinazotola, e sura pana, pwanamna mbavio, e secta zirivio enaya, katika inchi, kuina inafafanua kwamba, e labda, ushirika wakirimo, wweny utende shwanje, usirika wafe, utewwana talatibu ezi, iri tuyoteha inaweko, kulinda, kwa kikisha kwamba, hapakwepo, ama pasipuepo, na aina yote ire ya upotewo wazire, la sedimari, ampazuha ware kubari buka pamoja, ku wwakazuekapamoje, ire wizu kway, kuzitumiya na ku kufajdisha, uhe woteko pamoja.
- 6:43SPEAKER_01: Asupatikane moje kufadi.
- 6:45SPEAKER_04: Kwa ifu unataku niambia haweze kamka muhuni tu moja leuhiya kasema naanzisha usirika, maka, kusanya wa tu kaba, kasema tuanzisha usirika, manaki kila usirika mkuwepu kumujibu a shiri.
- 6:56SPEAKER_01: Yes, e kwaanza lazima patikane mtuwa kwaanzisha wazu.
- 7:00SPEAKER_01: Uazu iri lazima riwepo, la wwazu lazima riuze, kwa u ye wwale mbao, uanamzunguka mba kuwanao, ulikisha kubariwa deni Nanzam Chakato.
- 7:11SPEAKER_01: Kwayo bila kwen kwaanza kuanzam chakato, wwa kwenda kusajiri chama chaucherika, hitua chwezu kwa ki ki chama chau shilika, kine ichu ndu ginaitu vikunde.
- 7:22SPEAKER_01: Lakini pale mbapo, wwazuri mianza, umeuza kwa wadao, uame kuelewa, kwa kwapamoje, merizia kwa tasa tuanzem chakato, wakusajiri chama chhaushika, kwa kufuata talatibu ambazu zipo na ambazu mea nitu kwenich sheriya, paru napopata che cheti chausajin, ueweni ni mko kwenye chama chao shika na seu kwenike kunde.
- 7:44SPEAKER_04: Nini ki natufauticia chamacha u shirika na kikundi comandiusema.
- 7:49SPEAKER_01: Yakwanza,ina yacheria.
- 7:52SPEAKER_01: Sisi uhi wezo ku sajiwa, na sheria yetu numba, sita moka fugina kunatapoji numer kebijak, inasajiri chamachaushirika.
- 8:01SPEAKER_01: Sheryietwa isajiri kikundi.
- 8:03SPEAKER_01: Inasajiri chamachamachushirik.
- 8:06SPEAKER_01: Na chamachaushirika, haki sajiriwi, sehemu nyingine kwa shire nyingine yyote, isipoko ycheri ni tati.
- 8:13SPEAKER_01: Nakini fikunde vina sajrio kwa tarebu nyingitek.
- 8:16SPEAKER_01: Twezu kuta kundi, vina sajirio chinewizara, yamamboyandani, harimachauri, even ifikundi.
- 8:22SPEAKER_01: Navina kama vina taratibu nakatibo zilezina warinda wao, kwa taratibuzao.
- 8:28SPEAKER_01: Lakini, zedi san, sisi, kunyebiama bea usherika, tunamisingi, ambayo inafwatu aduniani koti, tunamisingi saba.
- 8:40SPEAKER_01: Sasa vi kundi, miriu sa jiro hiyu misingi saba, hawa hawana.
- 8:45SPEAKER_01: Sasa hizu njoto fauti.
- 8:47SPEAKER_04: Sa, tuko hapana flolienhaule ye huyu uh ni mkrugenzi uwa mandelewe ushirika Tanzania.
- 8:54SPEAKER_04: Kutoka shiri ki shula viyama via userika inchini tanzania tu megusiya hapa, umefahamu nini mane ushirika, lakini mmefahamu kwamba userika hawezi kuwepotu uhoko kwa mujibu wa sheria.
- 9:08SPEAKER_04: Tofautipia vikundi pa mojana ushirika tumepatahio.
- 9:12SPEAKER_04: Wakati tuna zunggumza hapa, niki nikirudi nyuma kidogo kwaye historija, ushirika ulikwepu kwajilia kwainua watwe nye hali ya chini.
- 9:22SPEAKER_04: Weme manakeni watu fulani mbaw kali ya u ni yachini o nasema nikama uširika ulikwepu kutokana na ile metalia umoja nguvufu tengano ni uzaif kwa wakati wu.
- 9:33SPEAKER_04: Sasayun do koncept tia uxhirika.
- 9:35SPEAKER_04: Umpaka leon nihivio kumba uširika ni kwajilia watu mbau, wako nahali fulania kima isha wa kuchini, o nataka kuinuana, ama kupata sautia pamoje, nguvi ya pamoje.
- 9:46SPEAKER_04: Ama sasasivi ušririka mwendambali za idea tawatu wenye mabavu e ki fe, nguvu, sha wisha nwaze opia kwa na ushirika.
- 9:54SPEAKER_01: Eh, asante sana kosuali zuri.
- 9:57SPEAKER_01: Inategemea, una izunguziya kateka mkta wa inchi au ma zingela yepi.
- 10:02SPEAKER_01: Lakini ki ukweli, labda nyanze kwa inchi zirizu ndeleya, na mbakuasaya biama viushrika virianza, hata mata jiri.
- 10:11SPEAKER_01: Amba wa metajika pio kupitiye mifumu ia ushirika.
- 10:15SPEAKER_01: Badu wa na wita jiushurika.
- 10:17SPEAKER_01: Yani ukiwelewa uushrika, wezi kusema kwamba, mimi kopu asasa ni metajika, nitatoka kwenyeushurik, apang.
- 10:25SPEAKER_01: Kwyuhata, wwale ambao, wenyihari zao bora, zaki uchumi, unaona baduwa nawitu kwanini, pasababu, e weekezaji, inategemiye ku kiwankocha wekezaji mbachum totaka kufani.
- 10:40SPEAKER_01: Kama munaitaji kuwe keze kwakeasikikubo.
- 10:44SPEAKER_01: Nabadum tu moja moja wupa moja na utajwekarionao.
- 10:47SPEAKER_01: Kwambabada tawona kwamba hawizi kwekese.
- 10:49SPEAKER_01: Kwavivete vida taitaji, ngufu kama riuze mwamba, e mmoje nguvu na utegali nini, liuzef.
- 10:56SPEAKER_01: Lakini, katika mazingila mbakuhuko sisi, to ripokea, hay mapoke yaushurika, nahasa, tumeona kwamba tuna matabaka, makuba sana pingine, yawale wurio, uenekipato chacini, nawale wenekipato chakati nawikipato chachyu, kopweli, viama viaushrika vina e tajika, zaidi kwyetabaka, lahao, wwenekipato chhachini na kipato chakati.
- 11:20SPEAKER_01: Kwasababuhao, zaidi hasa, ndio wanawa hitagi, kukusana, nguvuzao, kwapamoja, ilize kujenga msingi imala, we wa wa womtajiwao, ama, wa shuguriam bada w kuyanza kupamoje.
- 11:36SPEAKER_01: Kweubado, uchirika, utenelea kuwa mwimiri, katika matabaka yote, yea wareonao, lakina wasyonacho, lakinizaidi sana, kuainuha warioko kuchini, ire uweze kufikia yo, ngazia warionacho.
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: Kwaywuti mana tunasema, kupitiya usirika, tuna ondoa, ire dana ya utenga wenu, ye utenga na meutofotu sana, ua vipato.
- 12:03SPEAKER_04: Ukikana alienacho na asienacho manake, ushauri u kumba mnatakioko na usirika, utakua mwingi za idi kishaona uwahali echiniapo, usauri ntoko mwingi sana uki kabisa kabisa kwasababu, kwasababu e nani ukweli na tive riviu kwamba andubiangwipiana leo, kama unashiriinge lakimoja.
- 12:25SPEAKER_01: Lakini unauna kwamba unania, damira yaku inakutuma kwamba, nataka kuanza shuguri flani, akwyatoa tofari.
- 12:32SPEAKER_01: Lakini lekuna kufyato tofali, inakwita yu namtajua lakitanu.
- 12:37SPEAKER_01: Kunamambo mawidi mbanoze kweafani.
- 12:40SPEAKER_01: Chawanza ni kwenda awumamba matak.
- 12:44SPEAKER_01: Chawwanza, unazu kwenda, kwenda kutafuta mkopo kwenyeta sisza feva, iri upate lakine wwongeze, iri wezu kupata lakitana wenge kwye bi axala kufetua, tofali.
- 12:56SPEAKER_01: Ikiwa, unasifa za kuko pechek.
- 12:59SPEAKER_01: Ionon gyoswari niye njukina kwa, kigezu chabans.
- 13:02SPEAKER_01: Chapiri, nekutafuta, marafiki, wajirani, kusema tu ungane pamoje, tu inge kwyemuradiu mbawe me wona kama fos.
- 13:11SPEAKER_01: Nongki pite kwyum chakatu nasu mutenda kwazua shirik.
- 13:15SPEAKER_01: Nachatatu wambatu wengi sana mbachu huwa tu nasema kwamba, panapotea, nipalu napuamoku katatama, kwamba siwezi, koso hemtaja utoshi, kuatechidogo nichionacho, uka mwakula.
- 13:27SPEAKER_01: Kuote jikuta kwamba, wu mae chya kuyotu badu kukatika, hatua ile lawpigiya tuambe.
- 13:33SPEAKER_01: Kwetu nasema kwa kweri, usirika, umlenge sana huyu, wwakipatu chachini na chakati, iri wanganiche ngufuzao, waweze kwa kunya nyuka.
- 13:43SPEAKER_04: Wana uemdawa maindeleo podcastikama uko nawana uha punajiwa kabiso kumba haliye nuko, chinichini kidogo basi ashani onge kwaherufikubwa, mna uhitaji, wwakuana ushirika.
- 13:56SPEAKER_04: Tu tuendele kwa kugusia hili, kwanini usirika, mwa kwini mtua chagwe ngie ushirika na si njia nyingine.
- 14:04SPEAKER_04: Uku mgena wwewa kwenda kuchkuam kopo pengine.
- 14:06SPEAKER_04: Kwanini mtua to mi ngie ushirika na si njia nyingine.
- 14:10SPEAKER_01: Ume se ma vizuli andukuyangwe piana.
- 14:13SPEAKER_01: Kwamba, yule na eenda kuchukwa mkopo.
- 14:16SPEAKER_01: Hm, kwasem kuba ye anasi fanakope sheka.
- 14:20SPEAKER_01: Ya ni ui na anakopeseka, nya paliwi, kunyeta asis is afeza.
- 14:24SPEAKER_01: Sasa tuangalie, katika hari halisi, ye jemata tu kateka jemietasio tanzaniya.
- 14:30SPEAKER_01: Na ususa ni vijana.
- 14:31SPEAKER_01: Na yemekua haiyekizungumzu maraninki sana, yamani bi vijana wiku wato ako peseki, akopecheki, kwanina kopesheki.
- 14:39SPEAKER_01: Ukiyenda kunita assis is afeza, ukopajana etajiwena zamana.
- 14:44SPEAKER_01: Aw me kizi vigedo, awena biashara, orataka wja kukagua biasara mbayo, ipo, akini wonta kunta kwanza biashara.
- 14:52SPEAKER_01: Sasa kama hauko kwenye ushirika Itaponye ngum sana wewe kupata hatahuumtaji.
- 15:03SPEAKER_01: Lakini kupetiya ushirika.
- 15:05SPEAKER_01: Kokuweputu katika chama cha ushirika.
- 15:08SPEAKER_01: Kiricho sajinumkawana certifike, niye taali, meba diricha hadi, yea, kutu kutoka kutu kuko peseka, upwenda kwenye kukope sheka.
- 15:19SPEAKER_01: Wakire kidu gokili atakire mujeki kosanecha isa murize wezo jaribu kuekeza pare, murizo changa, taasisi ya fe, taari inakuona, kwamba, huyu nimteja, e mbae, e hatakama anhatari, basi zili hatari, zina pungua zaje kuriukama wivoko menda, mwja mwya.
- 15:40SPEAKER_01: Kwa utaona kwamba, iri weze kupata pakuanziya katek mani mtai.
- 15:45SPEAKER_01: Uta mi teji chama chao shuri.
- 15:47SPEAKER_01: Pengine umeamu kwenda ku wanze shuguri yakirimo.
- 15:51SPEAKER_01: Hum, umerima mazayako, umerima nyanyazako, lakini changamoto nisoko.
- 15:57SPEAKER_01: Soko umbalu wewe una putana nandalari shambani.
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: Eh, sasa, huyo dalani unay kuta nai shambani, lazimu mtaongea, mtapwyeli mtaongea, ye tataka pate mariako, kwagaram ntoko sana, ile kapate faida kum.
- 16:12SPEAKER_01: Nawewe unangadia karamu rizu wegeza part.
- 16:15SPEAKER_01: Unatamani akupebbe inzuri zaidi, ili e uwe wezu kupata feda kutakana jacho uruli wekesi.
- 16:23SPEAKER_01: Sasa kamahay umawili, mkisumoma nini wawi pale, e munuze takuna option atakuana mahari pengine bumane, isu nyenyazako kanazu mimunenda, utafuto kanyanya kwa kwa tumani mahari pengine.
- 16:36SPEAKER_01: Kazu to wona mwye badewta wona kuwona kwamba, una kwani mwita dizebu yule dara, kuko pigine nebukuita.
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: Lakini mukya katika ushurika, mkakusanya hayo mazauyenu pamogje, munake mnatengeneza panza, uhaba, wariyezao, kupatikano kutako ymikono, yekilamtu.
- 16:54SPEAKER_01: Yare mazawa yuti mwnekiakusanyye kwamba yapatikane kupitiam lango, mogje.
- 16:59SPEAKER_01: Kwakufanya ivio, manake mnajenga anguvu yeu shindani katika be.
- 17:04SPEAKER_01: Vivio hivio, ipokatika, suarazima rapembejeo, zahizuata kuta kurima ezuanyani.
- 17:10SPEAKER_01: Uka ukitoka kuwa hapa wusema kwa nenda kutafuta pembege o kuremjini, kwa i kazaku labda tano, kumu nazu rima zanyany.
- 17:18SPEAKER_01: Indezu kwany garama zaedi kwa kuwe pekeako, ukaenda, ukanunuwa labda kopa, ya kilomili, kilo tato, umbejo meta yaku.
- 17:26SPEAKER_01: Lakina kechu kafanyevo.
- 17:27SPEAKER_01: Lakini ukyyokatika uchurika, manake, niniimta kusanya maitajeno, yeah hizu pembege oka pomamoje, nam na kopio nguvu kwenda kubageni bei, kwa muzaji, na komana hi, mneze mkapata zile pembegeo, kwa bayiochi.
- 17:42SPEAKER_01: Iti kwijeswala zimala kuangeza thama.
- 17:45SPEAKER_01: Hm yaz wewe ukio peke nezu keningumusana, then you fikiriya kumba uzarisha, naokatihu enawwezo, wokuangeza thamanyakilo netuzarish.
- 17:56SPEAKER_01: Lakinu kupite usirika, namkika vizuri mkajipanga, masema kwambuke tunazaricha na tunazesheta kutosha, nahapa tnupozarisa tuna wezo sassa, to ungeze thamani sisuenye.
- 18:07SPEAKER_01: Kama niyosema, kosababu mukko ye tama chushirika, ampachu taari pachenyewe, kimiche ongezewa thamani ya kukopecheka natasis zafeza.
- 18:15SPEAKER_01: Ni raisi zaidi nini, kama chama, kwenda konetasis zafeza, mukakopa, na kuwenzisha, ki wanda chakuchakata mazau yale mnao zarisha, naibumka ungeza, e tamani e kirem natuzalicha.
- 18:27SPEAKER_01: Yasa wunezo kuone nemnagani kwamba, eani kuwa kwa yeni niviema, nani alie chaguo kuko kony ujerika, a mechagua fungola kupata.
- 18:38SPEAKER_01: Ila yule mbaya iku kenye chema chyuzrika.
- 18:40SPEAKER_01: Nimpepole, mechegwa fungola kukosa.
- 18:43SPEAKER_04: Sasa, uh, wakati tuna zunggumza hapa, nemekuje kubaini kito.
- 18:47SPEAKER_04: Ata pye kony mazungumzea kone kigunduwa hiki.
- 18:50SPEAKER_04: Nini kime athiri leohi tu kisikia uhariya amayidana ya ushirika.
- 18:58SPEAKER_04: Ama, uširika tuka ujumla.
- 19:00SPEAKER_04: Kinacho mliye kichwa ni mtukumara ya kwanzani kilimo.
- 19:03SPEAKER_04: Ushirika wa kilimu, na mifanu mba u minipatia pembejeo, mazau, kongeza tamani ya mazao na vitu kamahivu.
- 19:12SPEAKER_04: Niko sababuya tuli kotoka, amandio ushirika peke wenguvu Tanzania, kosabu menambia ku na ushrika u namnatufa uti ku na ushirika kwyemadini, eh se ta makazi na vitu kama ivo.
- 19:24SPEAKER_04: Nini kimetufikisha hapa.
- 19:27SPEAKER_01: Kwanza ni istoria.
- 19:28SPEAKER_01: Kamuri vesema, kwa mba ji diapo kwa istorija, chama chakwanze kitio sajiriwa hapa nchini, kwa mwji bwa istoria, iri kwani uchama chaushirika wafe.
- 19:39SPEAKER_01: Sakos.
- 19:39SPEAKER_01: Lakini, e bahanda ychu kusajiwa viama vingi viu kuje kusaji uba dai, viro fwati mikoni viyama viushirika, uwa mazau.
- 19:48SPEAKER_01: Lakini pia hata wanzirici, wa hivi viama vioshirika, mavilianzishu mwake fumuja, mianane terafini nane, huko wingereza, eh kwasem mkubo irianzishua, na wafanya kaze urikua nafanya, kazi kwenye, e kiwanda, kiriokwa ki na pokia, marigafiza machamba, kutuko kwya machamba.
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: Kweo, unezu kwan kutoka na istoria, unezo kuwona kwamba ma pokokeo, yaina yaushurika pa kwetu, kwasem mkubo yri kwane ushirika wa kirimo.
- 20:23SPEAKER_01: Lakini seeme tu kwamba nipurihata sasahivi, ki takwim, viyameve ushrika wakirimo, vi ko karibiye asirimea msini nasaba, katia viyama kalibibe elf sita na meatano sabini, ivi mbabu to rivionavio, kua sasasahivi, lakini asirimea zedia msini na kalibiya zedia asimia amsini, niviameveushirika u akirim.
- 20:46SPEAKER_01: Vinavi fwata bade apuchirika wafes.
- 20:48SPEAKER_01: Izisaku suzoto nozo sikia, neushirika wafez.
- 20:51SPEAKER_01: Aki kama divakumba tunaushirika, uvuvi, tunaushirika ufugaji, ukienda pale tanga, kunachama pale, kineetu tangadare, cooperative union TDCU, andbatu kimenunua e kinahisa, kunite kiwanda chakuchakata mazuwa paretangadare, theoikizaji wakubaba, wwale nichama chao shirika, wwa fugaji, lakini, tuna chama chauchirika wa nyumba kama jibosema, tunawenge housing cooperative pari de resaram, ktunoshirika wa usafiri shagi, wwakupare mafuso pari jangwani, tunaushirika wa viwanda, wakupare karia kogi rezani, ku kamerbusema kwamba pamuja na kwamba ylicha mapoko, lakini e kama wadao, ikiwana serikari, kwasemukuba to mequatikia tai sano, kuanzisha u ku ku ku ku kuamasisha, uanzishaju wa ushirika kateka secta bali bari, nyineza uchu.
- 21:45SPEAKER_01: Ukameribusema kwamba, usirika, una mea mahari kweni secta yeota ile, provided ykwamba, kunawatu ambao, uanataka kuadresaka kuta tua, changamuta baina, kabi.
- 22:00SPEAKER_04: Nikuna buana Florian Hawle Yeni Mkurugenzi wama indelewe ushireka, kutoka shiri kisho, la viama via ushireika Tanzania.
- 22:09SPEAKER_04: Tuna gusiamegi sana, kuhusiana na hili, la viama via ušireka.
- 22:15SPEAKER_04: Kitu kingine pia.
- 22:17SPEAKER_04: Kwa miyaka na miya kambo ni mekoni kisikia viyama via uxrika, viyma via uxirika, viyama via uxirika.
- 22:22SPEAKER_04: Nekoni kiskima la lamiko, uhye nasema kuhusubei, uye na zunggumza kuhusu masoko, uye nasema kuhusu malipo na vitu kamahivu.
- 22:32SPEAKER_04: Shirikisho, najueni mwamvuli mbao, unafunika viama viote vivi, iweni kwye madini, mazau, makazi, viama viote via ushririka mbapu, kitazama viyama via ushrika wana kwana lengo fulani, kwafanu wakwa mbaw ni viama via ushirika via kutafuta masoko, wako ngine viyama via ushirika, kutafuta kupatanguvu moje labda konye soko, ama konye penbejeo, wako wengine konye mbegu, wengine konye mitaj na vitu kamahivu.
- 22:58SPEAKER_04: Shirikisho mna kabiliya na vipiama mna fanya kitugeni, kwajiria kumaliza, hizi changamoto, kuna ogen pengine, ama kuna tume, ama chomba mbachukiko, chinya shirikisho, kwa kikisha kumba, kila uširika, una wongoze u shirika una hakikisha kwomba, uh, wanafikiya lile lengu mbalu, sehemia watu ya wwana chamawake, wwigyunga ili wapate vituvianam nakamahi.
- 23:26SPEAKER_01: Uh sante sana, uh katika maswali menguriuni uizas, tukatumianzekiki kipendi, hidi ni swari gumu, zait lakini pia ni swari mwimsa.
- 23:36SPEAKER_01: Kwasababu kwanza rimi kuja wakati mbao, kwe risosahivi, tuku kuny msimu wa mavuno, se kubu kwymazao mengi, kunye mavuno, lakini pia hicho nacho ki sema, nduhaso kipo.
- 23:49SPEAKER_01: Nani butuna kabiriano na changamoto ya be yndogo, yamazau, kwaye ya riyu sarishua, lakini pia kutokana na uhaba uama soob.
- 24:00SPEAKER_01: Sasatu nafanaji.
- 24:01SPEAKER_01: Nm raba tu fafanwe ki dogo, kwamba, tunapu zunggumziya be nkurima anyangariya katika taswila mbi.
- 24:13SPEAKER_01: Taswila kwanza mkurima mbaya niangre wumana chametu jamacha mshuita na yangaria.
- 24:17SPEAKER_01: Nikia siani ambewekeza katika uzarisajji sawa, amevuna na mategimeo anayo talajia kupata be yeni kupata, kipato, kutokana na kuzare mazao, ilionekane kwamba jaashu aliro liwekapale, ri memletea tija.
- 24:38SPEAKER_01: Kwe wazema kumba kirimo, chenyye tije.
- 24:41SPEAKER_01: Kiri muj tija, nekiri mbachu mushuasiku, unawona kumba konanini, kwa na faida.
- 24:46SPEAKER_01: Sasu kiona kombo me ngiza mejingizu kwye kirimo, mushu wasiku kire ulicho wekeza, nakire unachu kipata, vinakwa vinakaribe kufanana, hapu akunatiji.
- 24:59SPEAKER_01: Kwehi ondeom Iro la kwanza mbaro mkurima nataka kuriangariya kwamba, afanye kirimu la kine kinyetinye.
- 25:06SPEAKER_01: Upande wapili nimi fumu sasasa, ambayu inaweze kuleta hiyotija kway mkurima.
- 25:13SPEAKER_01: Apo tunazungumuzia sokone.
- 25:15SPEAKER_01: Asakwyri soko, tunzungumuzia e kwaba hati mbaya.
- 25:20SPEAKER_01: Sisinchietu, hatuna sana uwezo wwakutumia se mukuba yakire tunachu kizalisha.
- 25:29SPEAKER_01: Kuse mukubu jakire kinachu kizalisha, ue tuna wezo, wakusafirisha zaidi inje, na kwa mane tunateme tunategemea zaidi, so kolanje, so koladunia, evi, huyum kulima museo sika onekane kumba me patanine, anekata tje.
- 25:46SPEAKER_01: Sasa kitika so koladunia na kwiapana me fumo tofauti.
- 25:50SPEAKER_01: Kumbuekwamba fumuzani wishindani.
- 25:52SPEAKER_01: Kumapali nozenda pye so koladunia, awendi pekeak.
- 25:56SPEAKER_01: Hm, kama ni kahawa kunakawa blazili pia.
- 26:00SPEAKER_01: Kama ni tumbaku kuna tumbak malavina zimbabwe pia.
- 26:03SPEAKER_01: Zotezu menda kutana naso, kule so kon.
- 26:06SPEAKER_01: Hm.
- 26:06SPEAKER_01: Ambako sasasa musiwa sikik ehtana pale wanunuzi ama wwingi wwabizazi zoko pale sokone.
- 26:17SPEAKER_01: Ndizu zekasu amwa ukuba wabe.
- 26:21SPEAKER_01: Nahi nduri mekoni changamotu.
- 26:23SPEAKER_01: Kwa sababu katika hari hio, e siri kichul akwapina machin kichiso mingine yoto.
- 26:29SPEAKER_01: Na si serikali ya kwetu trap, lakina serikali ningine zot, haziwezi kwingiriya pale kwenye sokola bumia, ikase masasa, hibiza sase tenda kuzo, kwa behi hi.
- 26:39SPEAKER_01: Kwanini, kwasababu, ya wingi wa, zire biza, zire mazar, churia peleka, pale so kwon.
- 26:46SPEAKER_01: Asahili jury mekwani jodni changamoto.
- 26:48SPEAKER_01: Na hilo mbaro sasa e pamoja na serikarietu, e kuweka mifumu mizuri sana, yakuhakikisha kompa pana kwepo nanini, na soko zuri na be izuri, yaku tumiya kumfano sokolo mtandar.
- 27:05SPEAKER_01: Seri kari mweka fari n tie mweks.
- 27:08SPEAKER_01: Ambako, mkurima anaona beya sokoni, so ku kue kwye soko la dunia, iku katika harigan.
- 27:16SPEAKER_01: Anayuze kwa mua tuuze ama tu siuze.
- 27:18SPEAKER_01: Yo nifumba mkurima, ana chiniki moja kumoje, kuamua kwamba tumbakoyaka ubizayake ayuze ama siyuze.
- 27:27SPEAKER_01: Kazakatika misingio, e nwa lazimika kwa pengine inabidi usiyuze kwasababye kiwanko janini, se be ki joko pale, sokone.
- 27:35SPEAKER_01: Changamutu mbayo inayo kuja, nimi fumuye tu pia, ya whifadi, ya hito abechetu tu makeizali.
- 27:42SPEAKER_01: E ili, ili tu weze kusema kwamba oke, tu to subi, mpaka mdafrani ufike konfano, ambaku tuna tekeme pinge abu bei neneza kupanda, kwa sababu, yea bizazzi menda sokoni, wato wwadunuzu menda, jepo kombechi noto menunua, lakini ukiwane mifuma mizuria wifadi wa izo ezo ayema zawu riuya zalih.
- 28:02SPEAKER_01: Na yekaka, kateka ubura, ure ure na utakiwa sokoni.
- 28:06SPEAKER_01: Hm, hapu tunawizu kusema kwamba, turokona wezo, wakusimama vizuri sokoni, nakuleta, tija, kwa w kurimawetu katekamanaya, kupata be inzuri.
- 28:16SPEAKER_01: Lakin tangamoto, turionaye kubwa, e mifumu yetu yeni magara yetu, bado, hayano hayek wateka ziwango, be uwifati.
- 28:25SPEAKER_01: Sasa sisi chikisha tunasemani, autuna fajani.
- 28:28SPEAKER_01: Tunasema kwamba tume kwanza, nikuhamasisya, kwa vitendo kabisa, ile azima yaserikari, yea omu yasita nbingi naserika zote zopito.
- 28:39SPEAKER_01: Zakusema kwamba tupunguze, kuuza biza kama marigalf.
- 28:44SPEAKER_01: Tu uze biza mbazo zime ongezewa famani.
- 28:48SPEAKER_01: Kwahilo nduambalo, kama shilikicho tuna jaribu kuwekanggufusana kwa masisha viamma vietu, kwa kikiche kumba jamani eye, yani namne kujina suwaha, nipale mbapot, viamma, vietu veushirika, vitakapukona uwezo kuchakata, sehemu kuba, yamaza mbaya nazarisho, na chamawao.
- 29:07SPEAKER_01: Nakatikahili sasasa, e nazo kwambia kumba nchiza sevi, viama veochuriika tuna viwanda karibiya mia ine nam sini nambilivi.
- 29:16SPEAKER_01: Vambave vinamerikeo na viema veochika.
- 29:18SPEAKER_01: Mbavio kazeakani kungeza thama kungeza thamani ya maza.
- 29:22SPEAKER_01: Sasa kipamuja na viama viwanda yukuba widadioye viwanda.
- 29:26SPEAKER_01: Bado, kunamazao mengenu tona bado, hatu jafanya vizuri sano, kateka kuekeza u kateka kuchakata.
- 29:32SPEAKER_01: E nenujapa mboka tujafanya sana vizuri, hatuje keze sana vizuri kateka kuchakata, nikuyezao la tumbako.
- 29:38SPEAKER_01: Ambako kufano sasaivi, tuna changamoto kubo sana e bay, kushuka, na ukufu masoko.
- 29:47SPEAKER_01: Sasa, hu kunti mbako tuna tuna yi ye keze.
- 29:51SPEAKER_01: Nakama chiri kicho, tunasema kwamba e suruhi yamda mref ia kutatoi changamoto, nipare mbako tukapo amua, kwadate kabisa kwamba, tuenam fuku wetu wa uwekezai.
- 30:05SPEAKER_01: Naivi tunave zungumuza, kuchine usimamizu tumea mendele oshureka, ambenju ni regiule tetu, a mejaribuku tukusanya, kapamoji, ummea tumeanzisha, mfuko uwezi uwekezaji, kwajiriya viamy u shurika.
- 30:19SPEAKER_01: Tunaamini sasasa, tukupitiya huomfuko, eh, tupitia humfuko, tutaweza kuwekeza kwakiasikikuba sana, e katika viwanda, via kuchakata, yare mazao ambaya nazarisho, na wanachamawe.
- 30:34SPEAKER_01: Na kwa kufanya hivi, tunaamini sasa tunaenda kutua suruku, ye hizi changamoto ambazo, uhama ubezusea mantubian kuye.
- 30:43SPEAKER_04: Sasa hapa to gusiye mnalinda vipi maslahiya wanachama hiviviyama viaushirika, andikama mimi ni ligiunga, nachama chaushirika, kinachuito barakamfan, kwajili a kupata masoko.
- 30:57SPEAKER_04: Nikiyamini kabisa kumba mazawe yangu, ma bidamba wuna yizalisha yun ni mazawe uvuvi, nni upando madini, awki limo, mazawa ki limo, najuwa nikiuza ama nikipleka konye ušririkahu masla hyamboni li ya fwahapani be nzuri ya bidazangu.
- 31:18SPEAKER_04: Iki to kya sijea pata sasapale, ušririka u katumika kumyonya huyu, mona chama, shirikishu mkopale, nanin nanini nikamando waleziwa via maviote, nalinda vipi sa sa masla hiya, uhana chama yvi Vjamavya uširik.
- 31:33SPEAKER_01: Sante sana duguipiana.
- 31:35SPEAKER_01: Nkwanza nomba nito e hakika moje, emofi bitisho mwoji.
- 31:38SPEAKER_01: Kwamba e hakuna chama chau shririka.
- 31:42SPEAKER_01: Hakuna chama chechiote kile chau shirika, ambacho kita mnyonye mwana chama ki.
- 31:49SPEAKER_01: Io aiku.
- 31:50SPEAKER_01: Isipokuwa izuni tafsiri.
- 31:52SPEAKER_01: Na izi tafsiri zinakuje kutokana namifumo ambayo ipo sokone.
- 31:58SPEAKER_01: Konfano.
- 32:00SPEAKER_01: Kwi chama chao shurika, iri mwizu kupata bei inzuri, konfano.
- 32:04SPEAKER_01: Tunasema sisi wwanacham, kire turicho ki zari, tuki kusanye pamoje.
- 32:11SPEAKER_01: Iri tuutengenese, tuutengenese, uhaba wahiri zao, sokoni, hata kwa hapap, bata kwjisoko hapap.
- 32:20SPEAKER_01: Hata swala nina lukuja tenapa, niswala lawa minif.
- 32:23SPEAKER_01: Takini mifumu iko fabi tekabisa.
- 32:25SPEAKER_01: Kwamboke, ikitokeha kwamba be ikochin, na mbayo hiu haiwezi kuleta tije kwampulimi.
- 32:33SPEAKER_01: Na bajde kukusanya kwamba pengine tunawezu wakuri wakuritunza, ehiri zao tulio rikusanya, kwa myeze mita tumbaka metano pengine yjaye.
- 32:43SPEAKER_02: Hm.
- 32:43SPEAKER_01: Changamoto mbaye na kuje, huye mkulima ue mwanachama, anamahita jiake, yakila sikuambai lazima ya tatuwe, na iri atatuwa taita ji feva.
- 32:53SPEAKER_01: Mfumu w shirike uko wazi kabisa, kwambayari mazao turiu ya kusanya, anbayu umekatiwa ri siti uye mwwiu wwanacham anarisiti kupitiye mfumure wosta kabay de jara.
- 33:04SPEAKER_01: Anarisiti ziku patu de kusani ziku pani.
- 33:06SPEAKER_01: Sa, ile ri siti, anaweza kwenda kupatia, mkopo, alkapeka benke kapewa mkopo, na katatua zile changamoto, zake zenozum kabi.
- 33:16SPEAKER_01: Lakini sasase kwanina sema komba hidana i na changanyo pali no sema komba chama kime kusanya, lakini metuchere shye.
- 33:24SPEAKER_01: Uki semma tu chama kime kusanya, lakini metuchire shye, ku maripu, huyumwana chama, anakua eitha ni msukumu e komba na kosabobu ana anamaitagi, lakini, bila kutambu wa komba pengine hu ucherewe shaji, ni yulea kusubiliya kumba hariya soki fajin iwenzu.
- 33:45SPEAKER_01: Sasa e kutukana mifumambasase ii uwe ku kumba biashara niuru, kuna wa watukate o merusiwa, ewa waneitu aggregatas, sasaye aggregata, yehini biasara yaki aneda naenda kukopa feather, anapita, kumona chama anasema wewe unenda kukusanyapare mazwako, unapereko nyekine cham, mimi nayo kei shiapa.
- 34:12SPEAKER_01: Hata ungekuwa weondubiangu.
- 34:14SPEAKER_01: Yeni eitha unadevezaku kumi za maharage, na kwa muibu taotibu zachama chaoshrika, izu de bekumu teko zpereke konjama jako chhaushrika.
- 34:23SPEAKER_01: Lakine na kuje baraka, ana hela kanta kunuwa zide devezaku kumi kwa kesh, unge kuwa ungeperka, ungefenya mamuziga.
- 34:30SPEAKER_04: Apo mimi tuna kui shwe chapchap kwanzi.
- 34:33SPEAKER_01: Sasawe sium shirika.
- 34:34SPEAKER_01: Nayondiondo, na ijo yokina jotes.
- 34:36SPEAKER_01: Ue kokufanyye vi sasuwe siyyum shirika.
- 34:39SPEAKER_01: Wokofanyye ivio, manakewewe, una una inkare jizaidi.
- 34:44SPEAKER_01: Kunawe to ketu kiona, ni ile kechi uyu peo kwa katiho.
- 34:49SPEAKER_01: Bila kujari kwamba, umepeo iku katega bei kubo aundo.
- 34:53SPEAKER_04: Mekitaka kuam shiri kasasasina kuwa shirikisha na wenzangubana, kuna uyu kajia na ana uza huyo, huyu huyo munuziri impata.
- 35:01SPEAKER_01: Aji a tu abag aje tu panginaye bei pale wate pamuoja.
- 35:05SPEAKER_01: Usuba geni nayewe uko.
- 35:07SPEAKER_01: Andwe let andusema kumsu geneza waba wazao.
- 35:10SPEAKER_01: Uentu tuenam langa moja wakozia.
- 35:13SPEAKER_04: Lakini florian wanasema kumba uhawengi wavinachkua mudam brefusana ku kamilisha mchakato kwa evo kamamimi mejiongeza ni ko pembeni nime nawasema kizuri kulana mwenzio.
- 35:26SPEAKER_04: Nakuye nawashtuwana, uenzango kwyeushirika bwana, kunamtupale sasa hapu hapu tunaku natuka kamisa kunye misingi ye u.
- 35:34SPEAKER_01: Hapatu nokoto hatuzungu shiri kateg, la babu to kot musea sasa nivikun.
- 35:39SPEAKER_01: Lakini katika mantu nazubi fumufabiti ushuriika, hapatunakotu nakiuka ire misingi, taratibu, za zinave tu pasu tufanye ndanya viamavia u shirika.
- 35:49SPEAKER_01: Lakini ki kubu hapu, nikumwere misye huyu lakili huyu huyu mkurima wiu manacham.
- 35:54SPEAKER_01: Kwamba ivi ni kweri napu muzia huyu huyu dalani, nikweri anapata bei kubo, awa anapata hela ya chapchap.
- 36:02SPEAKER_01: Pana tofa utiyab.
- 36:04SPEAKER_01: Ya ni hieko kweri, ire ko sababu ana pokia ile hela ya gunia kumi kwa maramoje.
- 36:11SPEAKER_01: Iye kokwe napata tuni hela, yechapchapu, kwaajira kutatua, changamoto nazun.
- 36:16SPEAKER_01: Ukiangaliya kwakyaski kubo, tije katika ele bei haiko, na ni kwaambie kabis, hakuna darari yeyote, aye makini, ataweza kutuwa bei kubo kwa mkurima.
- 36:27SPEAKER_01: Haiupo, duniani ko telabda, wwazariu kwa zia sasa.
- 36:31SPEAKER_01: Watiza ziki chajinzi.
- 36:32SPEAKER_01: Lakini awa waliyoko patem.
- 36:33SPEAKER_01: Hakuna dalari yeyote ambaye, atasema kwamba ye anawchunggu sana, na wakurima na komana iyo, yuko tahari, kupunguza sehemu kuba, yafajdayake, anatarija kuipata sokoni, iri a mwzeche mkurima, aweze kupata beizu.
- 36:51SPEAKER_01: Huyo dalali hajja zalio.
- 36:52SPEAKER_01: Ila hiu tu reze kukipata kupite chama chao shuri.
- 36:55SPEAKER_04: Iba kihivy komba haja zaliwa na haju po dalali mba anaza kupunguza sehe muyake yafai Yafajida.
- 37:03SPEAKER_04: Awu koluga mtana smanza kupungguza se muya genjia.
- 37:06SPEAKER_04: Genjiakya pumppe.
- 37:08SPEAKER_00: Io haibuya yupo.
- 37:09SPEAKER_00: Uye haiupo.
- 37:10SPEAKER_04: Tuko hapa na buona flori andhaule eni mkurugenzo mendele usherika Tanzania, na nikutoka pia shiri ki sho la viamavia usherika Tanzania.
- 37:20SPEAKER_04: Tume zunggumza mengi sana kuhusiana na userika.
- 37:24SPEAKER_04: Na kumbukumbuza nembia komba kila katkatia yamwaka kuelekia msimua mavuno.
- 37:29SPEAKER_04: Kwfono kama sa saivtu na uwelekeye huwa msimwa mavuno.
- 37:32SPEAKER_04: Huakuna fanika na ni madimishu, na kama si sikuya usherika.
- 37:38SPEAKER_04: Kumwa kahu, tui zungumziye sasahio.
- 37:41SPEAKER_01: Asante sana e ndugiangwe piana.
- 37:44SPEAKER_01: E kwakweli hio sikui po sito itani nisiku ya mtoko na uxerik.
- 37:49SPEAKER_01: Ya ni hiy nju disiku maalung, idio pangwa.
- 37:52SPEAKER_01: Na sio tu hapa tanzani e nipangwa naina tambuliwo, na umoje umataif.
- 37:57SPEAKER_01: Ni sikua ki mataif.
- 37:59SPEAKER_01: Ni siku yekimataif.
- 38:00SPEAKER_01: Ye kwa jisio siku mbayo, kwamba sio kwamba tu haule usirika tanzania, umea mwwa pan.
- 38:06SPEAKER_01: Ekila yumamu si ya kwanza, yamwezi julai, yekila mwaka.
- 38:12SPEAKER_01: Yumamosi ya kwanze yamwezi Julai, yekila mwaka, nisiku yamtoko, wawana uširika duniani kote.
- 38:21SPEAKER_01: Mbapu kusanyika pamoja, wanachama viongozi utenaji, pamoja nawada wau, iki we muserikare.
- 38:30SPEAKER_01: Kukutana, kuja diri, kufanya tafimini, kuona nini mbacha tumefanikiwa, nini hatu kufanikiwa katika mwako riopita, nini ibekwa changamoto, na kuweka mipkakati ya pamoja, namna kuchekaku tatua zire changamoto zao.
- 38:47SPEAKER_01: Lakini ndiusiku peke, ambawi wana uširiika, ukuta kuwona, tasuila, nzima yaushilika wanchi, nipwenye sikuyu.
- 38:56SPEAKER_01: Kwamba viama viote yaushuriika, e bizaza uzi nazo za ishu.
- 39:01SPEAKER_01: Hurumazawa wwanazotoa, wadawa wanawu fanyana okaz, huku tanika pamoja, kuonesha, kwambahi, ndyukinachu fanyo na sektor, yawshirika.
- 39:12SPEAKER_01: Mwakahu, shugurietu, kama nivusema, iko, vile vile, e tarehene, mwizuasaba, na kwa bahatin zurizan.
- 39:23SPEAKER_01: Hm nafanyikia mkwani ku mkwane dodoma.
- 39:27SPEAKER_01: Makao maku yanji.
- 39:29SPEAKER_01: Tutakupopale, yakaya kikwete, eh, sukwya tare tatu, natareene, andpaputu natalajgi mgenivasmi, atakwepo ni wazirimkuwa jamuria mungana tanzania, doctor mwigulamekin chemba.
- 39:43SPEAKER_01: Nahayo mazimi sukapakwetu, yatakotu nafanya kwamala, ya ishirini na anne.
- 39:49SPEAKER_01: Kasonezo kuona kwamba, e namna bavio, huomutoku kwa naushurika, uriu kaya kwenye, vijatu.
- 39:57SPEAKER_01: Lakiniki kuba zaidi, nikwamba mbali wanaushirika, kubadichana uzefu, kubadichana mawazo, kubadichana fulsa, akiniki kuba zaidi, nikwamba tu naenda kuyyo nyesha jami, yawatanzania.
- 40:14SPEAKER_01: Nguvu ya ushirika ikwapi.
- 40:17SPEAKER_01: Na ikokwa nam nagjani, na iku katika maineo, yep.
- 40:21SPEAKER_01: Ddin sikiku yo.
- 40:23SPEAKER_04: Mimi kushkurusana tumezunggumza vitu vingi sana ngwyangu florian haule mwetu petisha konye historia, fida, za ushirika, lakini kitu mbachun metokanachu hapu, nime usoma vizurika bisamita za mwako.
- 40:37SPEAKER_04: Wana si wazite na komba wa watu usirika ni watu chokambbaya.
- 40:42SPEAKER_04: Katu u nkuni komba waze sana, na watu chokambaya, usirika.
- 40:46SPEAKER_01: Wadiwe wa wwkwunani o naja.
- 40:48SPEAKER_01: Kwani nimechoka, eh?
- 40:49SPEAKER_01: Kabani mechoka ba sni uze.
- 40:51SPEAKER_01: Lakini kobani mechokambbaya.
- 40:52SPEAKER_01: Apa kweri eh si tu katika man hata yemtizam.
- 40:58SPEAKER_01: Lakini hata nenda, nenda vijijijini, nenda konyemayo mbakovema vi ushika vipo.
- 41:04SPEAKER_02: Hm.
- 41:04SPEAKER_01: Nenda ukamchukwe mwanaushrika na siye mwanaushurika.
- 41:09SPEAKER_01: Uadingani chwika konyye meza.
- 41:10SPEAKER_01: Kono tofuto no kunatofauti.
- 41:12SPEAKER_01: Kuna tofauti kateka mana ya mendeleo, kunatofauti kateka manaya ata munekano wafia, eh, mavazi, makazi, tuko tofauti.
- 41:23SPEAKER_01: Tukkofizuli.
- 41:24SPEAKER_04: Malake yule mbayu koko konyoushirika kuna kiwangu cha stress amekipunguza kasababukuba.
- 41:30SPEAKER_04: Ushirika u nafanya kwa kiasi kikuba.
- 41:32SPEAKER_01: Wewewe ule u kama hoko kwa nyoushirika, ikifika yulai.
- 41:37SPEAKER_01: Hm.
- 41:37SPEAKER_01: Sisew shule zimefung.
- 41:39SPEAKER_01: Eh, ikifika yulai e monzoni shulezinafunguwa.
- 41:43SPEAKER_01: Hm, ndugiangwoto kwa kenye stressikuba.
- 41:45SPEAKER_01: Kama uko kanyushirika.
- 41:47SPEAKER_01: Lakidi mimi sa ikama bi.
- 41:48SPEAKER_01: Watoto na rudije shule shingizi maridadadi kabisa kwadi.
- 41:52SPEAKER_01: Nishoko nye sakos, isha chukum kopo wairimu, nirisha ripa ada, yenye potra zunguza disha sao.
- 41:59SPEAKER_01: Kiyundu fa idea kupoko nushe.
- 42:01SPEAKER_04: Zungumzana watanzania sasahivi, walembawa na tutazama, walembawa na tufotilia, kupitiye platform zoti mbako uh wana tuskiliza sasahivi, kuhusiana na umuhimu wa usirika, lakini pia kweleka, sikuhiya mbayo mimi, kovila mbavu meitambulisha siiti tenama di mishu easiku biya usirika tunawekakapuni, tuasema nimtoko wa na ushirika.
- 42:23SPEAKER_03: Aki Tanzania.
- 42:24SPEAKER_04: Namtoko manakeni wwzika sawa natokeleze u kyo ujependeza.
- 42:28SPEAKER_04: Manake mtoko niwa tu flaniwa kifahari, kwekea sikuhio, zungumzana o Tanzania.
- 42:33SPEAKER_01: Ah, Sante Sana.
- 42:34SPEAKER_01: Awaleote kwanza nomba nitwe wito, kwa wawa Tanzania, naja mi koyumla.
- 42:40SPEAKER_01: Kwamba e Hakuna nam na yeyote ilia mbayo ni Rahisi, ambayum Tanzania, nahasa wkipato chhachini, anaweza kuji kwamwa kutoka kunye lindi la umaskini, kama hakua katika mfumo wa viama vioshurik.
- 42:57SPEAKER_01: Sukio ni Viema mwana jami awum Tanzania, kama hayuku konechama chyaushurik, akafikiliya, akanza kufikiria, kwamba kwenye kwelekea utekerezajji wa dilaya shirini ham sini.
- 43:15SPEAKER_01: Iri awesehemu ya utekerezajji wahi odira, iri awesehemu ya ukua mnufaiika wahiodira, nila zima achagwe kujiunga kwene viamavia mfumu wawiamavy uchurika.
- 43:28SPEAKER_01: Ndiomfumu peke, utakawa mwadikishia, manufa, nafaida, ya kuona, matunda, ya uchumi wwenchihin.
- 43:39SPEAKER_01: Lakini piri na umba kutuwa wito, nakuarika watanzania wote, kuamba tarehetatu na tareene, nisiki mtoko wna u shurik.
- 43:48SPEAKER_01: Watanzania tu wakaribiche wote kuwa jumula yoko, mkuane dodoma pomojana jungaviake, wwamikowa jilani lakina mikuwa mingine yote, wwakaribiye do domoma, waje waone mtoko wana u shurika, tutakuwa tuko pale, yakaya kikwete confession centre, tuki toa mada, tuki badishana fusa, tuki badishana uzoefu lakini zaidi, tuki elezea mfumu mzima u shirika namna unavio fanya kazi, na namna mbavio unasa idea wa Tanzania.
- 44:21SPEAKER_01: Karibuni sana, na tuatakie kabisa, safarin jema yakuja kwyemtoku e tu dodoma.
- 44:27SPEAKER_04: Asante sana kokutufotilia maelezo podcast Sisi hapa tuna keti nawale wa tu muhimu kwa jilia kufahamu vitu kuhusu Tanzania, kufahamo maeneom balimbali e Tanzania, kufahamu ta sisi mbalimbali zaki Tanzania.
- 44:41SPEAKER_04: Lakini pia kufahamu haditi na historiem balimbali, zakui husu Tanzania leo, tuliketi hapa na buona Florian Haule eni mkurugenzi, wama ndeleo e uširika kutoka shriki sho.
- 44:53SPEAKER_04: Lavyma via uxiriika Tanzania tume zunggumza mengi sana kuhusiana na ushirika manajake mabadiliko, amonasema transformation, tangu miyaka hio, ambbautu na zunggumzia uširika miyaka na miyaka iliopita, mpaka le uhitu na uzungumzija uxirika waki sasasa zaidi, ambau si wa zetu, mpaka vijana, si wale waliu cho kambaja tu, mpaka waliu jipata, wana hita jikwa na uširika, mpaka wkati mungines, ttaketi nanani hapa, ba sendelea kutu fatilia kupitiakura sa zetu zotiza mitando waki jamina ma yu kuwa yote, yakuiskiliza amon nautumi akwiskiliza melezo podcast Jinalangu, nipjana splayman, koheri kosasa.