Latest / The Spin Podcast / Tyler's Mad Again
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- 0:32Welcome to the spin man. Right on freaking time, there he
- 0:38is. Look at that.
- 0:41I'm always on time. I'm always.
- 0:44You've got a dinosaur in your house.
- 0:46Say baby my, I will see you call.
- 0:51There you go, Kathy, 10 burpees for every minute they're late.
- 0:55Start. Start them up, guys.
- 0:56Not us. It's you guys got to do the
- 0:58burpees. I did a lot of burpees today, so
- 1:01I saw that. I saw that they were doing bar
- 1:04facing burpees right? Oh, I didn't even wasn't even
- 1:07talking about those, but sure. Alan Pugh, The group chat is
- 1:12angry. Maybe not as angry as Tyler.
- 1:15We don't know. You just wait.
- 1:17I'm calm. Dude, I'm I'm, I'm ready to go
- 1:20off. Good.
- 1:22Oh, there we go. I'm I'm, I'm so pumped for this
- 1:25show. I'll be I'll be frank.
- 1:27Not, not that Frank, but I don't really know what we're talking
- 1:33about, but I'm pumped up to talk about.
- 1:36That's the spirit, John. I know AI have a general idea
- 1:39but I don't like I don't really know.
- 1:41I had a couple of people message me.
- 1:42They were like, I want to know what he's so mad about.
- 1:45I'm like, I'll find out when you do.
- 1:47There's one way to know. That's right.
- 1:49I just know that you're mad and you want to talk about it.
- 1:51Shoes. Graphics, mad like Cracker
- 1:53Barrel mad. I hope so.
- 1:57We got it back, baby. We wax on, wax off.
- 2:00I had this business once. If I did not open on time, they
- 2:03find me so. I don't know I how is that a
- 2:08thing? I don't know if you guys are
- 2:12keeping track. We are -1025 dollars.
- 2:18So there's a little bit of time left that you can get the WFP
- 2:22preview. Show Should you want us to cover
- 2:24the WFP preview post during all of the above, we actually have
- 2:32spies set ready in Mesa, AZ to infiltrate and they.
- 2:42Already infiltrated. They they deep in it.
- 2:45We lost money last week on that, so you guys got to do better.
- 2:49How much 1000? $25. 25.
- 2:53Don't. It's something like that.
- 2:55Oh my gosh, the Amazon Prime guys wearing a Cowboys jersey.
- 3:03I didn't know they let gay people do Amazon Prime.
- 3:05All right, go. Ahead.
- 3:06Is it Chase? Nevermind.
- 3:08Sorry, that was such, so lame. Let's go.
- 3:11Go ahead. Let's go.
- 3:14Didn't know Chase was hard up for.
- 3:16Should we bring back the Vikings cheerleader?
- 3:18Bring that back up as I, as I, as I, as I say.
- 3:22Dustin. Thank you for being a team
- 3:26player, Dustin. This is this is this is how we
- 3:28grow. You could.
- 3:29Do it now I there's nothing stopping that.
- 3:32Right, let's start with the $2.00 and maybe somebody will
- 3:34contribute the last 1023 dollars.
- 3:37Speaking of Vikings cheerleaders at Bike Lift Carry, please keep
- 3:43the politics out of the show. Right?
- 3:45I enjoy the CrossFit talk so much.
- 3:48What? Politics did we talk about?
- 3:50I didn't think that was politics.
- 3:51I. Don't.
- 3:53Know I feel. Like we're a pretty politic free
- 3:55show. Yeah.
- 3:59Unless we're talking CrossFit politics.
- 4:00Unlike the other podcasts out there.
- 4:04Yeah. Look at this Vicky be limitless
- 4:07health. Let's go, Vicky, thank.
- 4:08You 499 make that an even negative.
- 4:12There we go. Oh, man, I'm sorry.
- 4:15I'm sorry, Dustin. Now it's 1028, all right.
- 4:19We were paid. We can now make a story.
- 4:21We were paid not to cover the WFP.
- 4:24We were, we were. Let's see Mariah Adams Tyler is
- 4:29having me literally lol ING with his Rambo talk so people like
- 4:34the. Dude deep dives into stuff like
- 4:39that. People love that.
- 4:41Like like I'm I'm telling you because everybody has a strong
- 4:45opinion. I'm.
- 4:46Not. I'm not naming names, I'm just
- 4:47saying they're out there. I don't know.
- 4:49Susan, you're the least political guy I know at.
- 4:53Least he's the most conspiracy theory guy out there though, is
- 4:58he? Dude, you know what I I heard?
- 5:00Something B1 API think. I saw this thing.
- 5:04It was like how this is how you know you're way into conspiracy
- 5:08theories. Since the Matrix came out, there
- 5:14is no more like line phones and they all went to cell phones and
- 5:18that's the only way we can get out of the Matrix.
- 5:20They were telling us. That's pretty, and it kind of
- 5:23fits. Dude, that's pretty wild.
- 5:25Kind of. Fits.
- 5:27That's one. That's like one Rd.
- 5:29We're in the matrix, Tyler. That's all I'm saying.
- 5:31We have no way out. Like a zebra in Murfreesboro, he
- 5:36can't get out. That's right, Lee Frazier just
- 5:40watched John Wick last night. He didn't die.
- 5:43He traded the Beagle for a rescue pit.
- 5:45Smart move concerning his line of work.
- 5:48Probably movie one that I watched.
- 5:50Never heard of him until last night.
- 5:53John. It's a great series.
- 5:54It's a great series, you should watch it.
- 5:56He he dies at the end so but the 4th 1.
- 6:01Oh, Kathy's safe. That's a great series.
- 6:05Oh, she's, she's good. She.
- 6:06Can get out. But see what?
- 6:08See what we can do. We can we can get Lee to watch a
- 6:11movie just for. Whatever Murphy's that's
- 6:13awesome, though. John Wick is a great little
- 6:17train to go down if you've never went down it it's it's it's a
- 6:20it's a fun series. It's.
- 6:21Really good look at this missus. Smith's going to Murfreesboro
- 6:23tomorrow, Murphy. Exciting inside.
- 6:26I watched the new Alien movie last night.
- 6:31It really wasn't that bad. Or night before last.
- 6:33What new? Alien movie, Alien Resurrection
- 6:38or something like that. They were on.
- 6:40They were. On like 3 years ago.
- 6:42Was new to me. But you can't say the new.
- 6:46I watched that new John Wick movie The other day.
- 6:48Hey, let me tell you. That's how I know I'm getting
- 6:52old. So Romulus, last week on the
- 6:57comments we got infiltrated by a bunch of people that were trying
- 7:01to sell us on something at Army Lover G8I.
- 7:08I'll be real, after finishing Nixiris by Dorian Kane my first
- 7:12thought was how the hell is this book even allowed?
- 7:14It's straight up ripped everything apart.
- 7:16Everything school, family and society taught me about money.
- 7:20No fluff, no no motivational cliches, just hard raw truths
- 7:25you won't hear anywhere else. Now I get why this book isn't
- 7:29mainstream. It's too real.
- 7:30If you find it, grab it before it's gone.
- 7:32That's right. And there are about 10 other
- 7:35posts that were almost. All the same.
- 7:37Very, very similar. So I had no idea what Mixed Risk
- 7:41by Dorian Kane is, but. And if they posted a link,
- 7:44definitely click it it's. Good thing to a great place for
- 7:49sure. Let's see at Creston does it.
- 7:55Damn, John, I was a cheerleader for years, not one of the big
- 7:59ones. I was a Tumblr.
- 8:01Not much of a stunter. She wants you to know that she's
- 8:03good looking. That's what she wants you.
- 8:06To know met my wife. No, this is a dude.
- 8:08Oh, well, you he he wants you to know that he's good looking.
- 8:11Yeah, he's good looking too. I got I.
- 8:13Met my wife through cheer though dropped her numerous times.
- 8:19Yeah, but were you shaking that ass?
- 8:21I don't think so. I don't.
- 8:22Know Kristen doesn't sounds like he was.
- 8:25And the fact that you have three different names of cheerleaders,
- 8:29you're a real cheerleader. Like the the NFL, cheerleaders
- 8:34are mostly just dancers. They're not doing stunts either.
- 8:38They do some flips and shit on the ground though.
- 8:41They he said he was a flyer. No.
- 8:43He was a he was a stunter. No, he was a.
- 8:47Tumblr not. He was a Tumblr.
- 8:49Tumbler's the ones on the ground.
- 8:50Tumbler's the ones on the ground that do the flips and stuff.
- 8:52You're, you're an athletic guy. Like that's not, that is not
- 8:55that. I guarantee you, you didn't look
- 8:58like a female when you were doing your thing.
- 9:01You looked like a male doing your thing.
- 9:05I got nothing against you. You're on?
- 9:08Yeah, John's on your side. Let's see T Bird.
- 9:13John, they don't pay you. This is CrossFit.
- 9:16They don't pay you, but they certainly give you some extras
- 9:20access, etcetera. I had Dave Castro personally
- 9:24tell me I'm not allowed to use that bathroom anymore.
- 9:28He said. Hey, he said.
- 9:30Hey, stop going through there. You have to go the long way.
- 9:35I'm fairly certain I use that bathroom like 6.
- 9:38Times oh I mean every time I could I tried to use that
- 9:41bathroom here's the thing there is a bathroom literally 20 feet
- 9:45from our where we are it was right there and I discovered C4
- 9:50at the games guys I had like 800 milligrams of caffeine a day and
- 9:55just and I had to go a lot and it's right there I.
- 10:00Watched John take the first sip of that Z4 and he was it was
- 10:04like a kid smoking pot for the first time.
- 10:06He was like, are you? Are you guys sure?
- 10:08And then he, he. Went.
- 10:12Oh wow, I was. So surprised it tasted so good
- 10:19there. You go Souza, this is true.
- 10:24JY was scolded. Yeah.
- 10:27See, we don't get all those, all those benefits.
- 10:30You know, we, we, we get what we work for, OK?
- 10:33If we're, if we're, if we're where somebody, if we're where
- 10:36nobody else is, it's 'cause we've worked harder than
- 10:38everybody else this last year. And I would, I would dare you to
- 10:42debate me that I'm wrong in that.
- 10:45Well, you got that, plus that that was a paid VIP suite.
- 10:49That wasn't like CrossFit giving it to him.
- 10:51It was a little workaround. Yes, yes, yes.
- 10:55So are we allowed? Are we allowed to talk about the
- 10:57worker? I mean, I mean it, it's not like
- 11:00it's a secret if you can put two and two together and know that
- 11:03Sarah got the booth and allowed us to be in the booth and they
- 11:05just allowed us to do the podcast in the booth, but.
- 11:10You have you have restrictions like you weren't overlapping
- 11:13their coverage like you were doing a pretty good.
- 11:15Job. And that's why we and that's why
- 11:17we weren't allowed to use that bathroom.
- 11:21Well, oh, 'cause we gave, we had to pay.
- 11:23It was. Our game we're technically AVIP
- 11:26suite. We aren't a part of the the.
- 11:28Media the. Train but yeah, the CrossFit
- 11:31media right and that's and like that's why they're trying to
- 11:35enforce rules. I get it.
- 11:36I still I broke that rule every single time I could but but
- 11:41that's that's why. Yeah, and the last one, our
- 11:46favorite CYBY P6 O thank you for promoting the World Fitness
- 11:53Project, the new CrossFit league.
- 11:57I can't say that it the new IT league.
- 12:00They don't allow you to say CrossFit I.
- 12:02Don't know, I guess CYBY can say it.
- 12:06So yeah, there you go, there's your viewer comments.
- 12:08Drop some real ones down there, Army Lover.
- 12:11We're good. We don't need to watch.
- 12:12Read Nixerus. But thank you for your comment.
- 12:16Read Nixerus. Please somebody buy that book.
- 12:19Please let us know Souza. The CrossFit podcast you did was
- 12:23amazing Sir. Yeah, and it's on.
- 12:26It's just called the CrossFit podcast, right, The official
- 12:29CrossFit podcast. You guys should go watch give it
- 12:32the last episode of Watch Who's. It was great.
- 12:35He'll drop a comment on on that one.
- 12:39All right, sell side, Tyler, you shouldn't be smiling.
- 12:43You should be getting mad for some reason.
- 12:46Tell us what? Why are you so angry?
- 12:48When I get like a clean shade. When I get really mad, I start
- 12:52smiling and that's when you know, it's really bad.
- 12:55Like I don't I, I start to lose my mind and I start doing this.
- 13:00OK anyway, so what's up? About what?
- 13:09Go. Just go.
- 13:10Just go. So sorry, I've been thinking a
- 13:15lot. I've been going back and forth
- 13:16with spin about like, how do I talk?
- 13:18About yeah, before you, before you get worked up.
- 13:19We got 10 bucks for 999 Hybrid fitness media.
- 13:22How much to get Tyler to return my calls?
- 13:26We only returned hypercon. $1000 thousand dollars.
- 13:32I've been, I've been talking with Spin about how to talk
- 13:34about the sale. I've been, I've been thinking a
- 13:37lot about it. And I think a lot of affiliates
- 13:40and community members are like just in the dark about what's
- 13:44actually going on and not only that, about how to think about
- 13:48what happens next and what to do.
- 13:52There's a ton of players in the game.
- 13:54And so I'm up about midnight last week, and I stumble across
- 14:00this video, and in my free time at midnight, I like to play like
- 14:09I'm a Geo, a geopoliticist. I like to play around with
- 14:13geopolitics. That's what you call this guy,
- 14:15Professor G Yang. That's what you call your Dick
- 14:19is Professor G Wang. Yeah, Professor G Wang is that?
- 14:26As you as you play around in geopolitics at midnight.
- 14:30What? Listen, whatever gets you going,
- 14:32I'm not going to judge you, John.
- 14:33I'm sorry, Jeanette. I'm sorry.
- 14:37That's what she calls it. What are you talking about?
- 14:40This is serious business here. Go ahead, Go ahead, professor.
- 14:45So anyway, I found what I thought is the best way to
- 14:49analyze what happens next. This guy, he's read 3 or 4
- 14:54different books. He's he's a professor, he's big
- 14:57time smart. And he synthesized these three
- 15:02different hypotheses into a model about how to analyze
- 15:06geopolitics in the world. And this one specifically is
- 15:09about collapse of Western society and all that stuff.
- 15:13But I thought the model overlaps greatly with what we're
- 15:17currently seeing in the CrossFit space with the sale.
- 15:21So the thing he starts with is the first thing, Spin is this
- 15:25model about how to gain power. And when I watched him breakdown
- 15:34this model, it revealed to me both how smart Greg is, how
- 15:40brilliant he is, and also how he fucked up and was more brilliant
- 15:45than I think he might have even realized.
- 15:47So what you see here is in the center.
- 15:49And if you like, if you look up my story, I posted something
- 15:53sort of about this the other day.
- 15:54In the center is the families. So all power comes from one
- 15:58place, and it's generally a family or an organization.
- 16:03And they're supported by these three different pieces, finance,
- 16:06religion, and intelligence. And so I started thinking about
- 16:10this and I was like, CrossFit is this thing we hold power.
- 16:14CrossFit holds power over essentially an entire ecosystem,
- 16:18an entire community, an entire society.
- 16:21OK, so the finance piece on my story, I know I couldn't, I
- 16:27couldn't wait anymore. There's too much going on and I
- 16:32was like, I'm going to miss the friggin boat.
- 16:33I got to get it out now. So on the finance piece, this is
- 16:37obvious. In normal society, the US, they
- 16:39control the treasury, different countries control what is sold
- 16:45and what is bought, all those different things, right?
- 16:47In CrossFit, this is the easy one, it's affiliates and it's
- 16:50education, right? And so those like that's the
- 16:56lifeblood coming into CrossFit. And then the other easy one, so
- 17:01the easiest 2 are intelligence and finance.
- 17:03The other easy one is intelligence.
- 17:06And it's knowing what your competitors are doing and then
- 17:10using what you have to put media out either battling what's going
- 17:14on, like who's coming at you, or propagating your information to
- 17:18everybody else, right? The big 1, and I think this is
- 17:22the key to it all, is the religious side.
- 17:24You guys have heard me talk about this before.
- 17:26You have methodology, which is obvious, and the Crusades so.
- 17:32Like kill Coca-Cola. Kill Coca-Cola, which we've
- 17:35talked about in the past before, like we don't do that stuff
- 17:39anymore. And so John's, like, hinting
- 17:40about what I think has happened over the past few years, 5 to 10
- 17:45years, has been we didn't backup.
- 17:50We stopped having the Crusades, right?
- 17:52And that was a force that everybody could get behind.
- 17:55Greg was the driving force in that.
- 17:57Yes, he was, but it was like we want to cure the world's most
- 18:01vexing problems, and crusades were number one.
- 18:04In doing that. It made you feel as an affiliate
- 18:06owner and a community member that you were part of something
- 18:09larger. We don't have those fights
- 18:11anymore now. The first one that I've seen in
- 18:14a long time is the CrossFit Medical Society and Community
- 18:18Care. Scan a code below.
- 18:22But I mean, even though they're a sponsor, I am very serious
- 18:25about what they're trying to do. And I think that's why they're a
- 18:28sponsor is because we agree with what they're trying to do.
- 18:31They're trying to solve the problem that is insurance.
- 18:34And we have the healthiest population of people on earth.
- 18:37And this is the first crusade that we've had in years.
- 18:40The other thing we've seen on the methodology side, I think is
- 18:43when we pushed into trying to make CrossFit for everyone, we
- 18:49started to break down some of this methodology stuff.
- 18:51We started not toe the line like we used.
- 18:56To we and which made it feel less colty.
- 18:59Right you. Used to be proud of the cult
- 19:01that you were in called CrossFit.
- 19:03Right, right. So then that goes into the
- 19:06intelligence. So as that starts to dwindle, as
- 19:10that starts to breakdown, you think about it like crumbling
- 19:13the religious side. The education side then does
- 19:16too, because people aren't going to buy certifications and
- 19:20affiliate when they don't have a force to get behind because
- 19:23you're really running a religion.
- 19:25CrossFit is a religion and it's at its base.
- 19:29The affiliates try up. Education dries up, the money
- 19:31dries up. You have less money to put into
- 19:33the intelligence, finding out what your competitors are doing
- 19:35and then putting media out to propagate that.
- 19:38And if you're also not having a strong voice about the
- 19:41methodology in the Crusades, what are you putting media out
- 19:43about? So over the course of the last
- 19:48few years, I think this encompasses everything that
- 19:51everyone is having problems with and why you're seeing the entire
- 19:54ecosystem start to start to question itself what happens?
- 19:59So Doctor Professor Jiang then goes into, he then goes into the
- 20:08rise and fall of society. So he uses this power model.
- 20:11To show you what happens in societies as they go through a
- 20:15life cycle, and I should say this model has holes.
- 20:22There are different things that you can bring up about it, but I
- 20:24do think that it is useful as a model to assess things.
- 20:28So from left to right you have the rise, the decline and the
- 20:31collapse of a society. Oh, he's even talks about the
- 20:34open. Yeah, he even has the open in
- 20:36there. What a good dude.
- 20:37Crossfitter, Probably not. So things that make up that are
- 20:45in the important pieces of a society, especially in the rise
- 20:50is that it's open. So in the early years of
- 20:52CrossFit, I think that there your voice as a community
- 20:57member, as an affiliate owner was more largely heard and
- 21:01accepted right. And as we've grown larger, that
- 21:05is closed up, but you're open. You you take everybody's input,
- 21:09you think about it and you grow because of that.
- 21:11Especially like on the methodology side.
- 21:13Yes, this is my games mountain, especially on the methodology
- 21:20side. I remember in the early years
- 21:22and it's been AI mean you went to an outlaw that's.
- 21:26Right. Sir, like everybody had their
- 21:29different way of thinking about how to program for CrossFit and
- 21:32then Chris Inshall comes along and then everybody's like, Oh
- 21:35yeah, we're not programming running effectively.
- 21:39We're not thinking about aerobic endurance effectively.
- 21:42That openness brings Chris Inshall in and the entire
- 21:45methodology, not the methodology itself, but how we practice the
- 21:48methodology, changed, especially on the sports side.
- 21:51I I I equate open to the Wild West.
- 21:54Yes. Yes, of the best affiliates will
- 21:57survive the word. The bad affiliates will not.
- 21:59Everybody's throwing something out there trying to figure it
- 22:01out, trying to make it work on your own.
- 22:03Because Greg was very poor. Hey, if you don't make it as an
- 22:06affiliate, that is not on us. That's on you guys.
- 22:09What was the the nutrition guy? The early on nutrition guy, No.
- 22:16The the element guy. Yes, Rob Wolf, we brought him
- 22:20in. We brought power lifters in.
- 22:23We were bringing all these specialists of Mike Bergner.
- 22:25We were bringing these specialists.
- 22:26In John Welborn. John Welborn We're bringing
- 22:29these people in and we may like, what do you know, what can you
- 22:32teach us? Kelly Starrett And so it created
- 22:35this huge force of like, we have everybody who's cool, who's
- 22:38thinking about this. And that was a big driver in the
- 22:41growth of CrossFit. The other thing you have is
- 22:44consent. So everybody in the society's
- 22:47like, OK, cool. Like we all like this.
- 22:49Let's let's grab on to it. Let's all go in, you know,
- 22:53democracy, the, you know, the the highest vote wins.
- 22:57And in an open society, everybody's like, OK, we're on
- 23:00board. We're all unified.
- 23:01So that's the last piece. We're all unified behind this
- 23:04concept. Let's let's do this.
- 23:06I might have not voted for it, but OK, I'm going to get on the
- 23:08train. On the society side, you didn't
- 23:13reach the decline, so society's rise, they eventually meet a
- 23:17peak. And this is where it goes back
- 23:20to the power model. You don't have to go back there
- 23:22spin, but each one of those sections, religion, finance and
- 23:28intelligence. So those as society grows, you
- 23:33have to accumulate people who are managers of each of those
- 23:36pieces. So this is easy.
- 23:37In the CrossFit side, you have the finance people who are
- 23:41actually working through the sales of CrossFit, they're
- 23:44actually doing the accounting, they're thinking about that.
- 23:46So the business stuff of CrossFit, right?
- 23:49The religion side, you have the the L1 team, the education team,
- 23:55you have Dave, people who are pushing the methodology.
- 23:58But then you also have like people who are in the marketing
- 24:00side being like, OK, we can talk about this or not.
- 24:03And then on the intelligence side, again you have some of the
- 24:07the big players looking at what outside forces are doing and
- 24:12then controlling the media team. Now hold on, hold on real quick,
- 24:16Tyler, Bob the meatloaf. So as as societies rise, you,
- 24:26you have to accumulate how many people are putting into the pot
- 24:30because you'll have all these people scattered and eventually
- 24:33like that becomes interference and you need people to manage
- 24:36those. But eventually you'll get to
- 24:39this point where you're not bringing in, in a society, like
- 24:42you're not bringing in as much taxes, you're not selling as
- 24:44much stuff anymore. And you shift to a bureaucratic
- 24:48society. You've had more, you've hired
- 24:50more middle managers. You're doing all this stuff to
- 24:52like there's less productive force and there's more
- 24:55managerial force than there is anything.
- 24:57And I think we've seen the same thing in CrossFit.
- 25:00Like what was it 3 or 4 years ago?
- 25:02They couldn't get anything done because they everybody had to
- 25:04sign off on every single piece of stupid thing that came out.
- 25:08Like the media thing was crazy bad, right?
- 25:11There was great content that did not make it out because of
- 25:15middle managers who just buried it because of some beef that
- 25:18they had with somebody outside and outside media or some
- 25:22narrative that they didn't want to put.
- 25:25Second thing you see in decline is deception.
- 25:27They start lying to you about what you're actually seeing.
- 25:30So one of the things that we had a couple years ago was what is
- 25:34the real affiliate count? Some were still putting it
- 25:36around 10,000. Some were saying it was 7000.
- 25:39How is this doing? We didn't know.
- 25:42We used to know. It was like Skyrocket all the
- 25:44time. Mayhem was sold out every
- 25:46weekend. Now it's like what, you know, I
- 25:51think we were being lied to for a little while or we be, we're
- 25:54being deceived. The numbers were being padded
- 25:57about how good CrossFit was actually doing.
- 26:00Probably during the Rosa era. Yes, during the Rosa era and
- 26:05then stability. So in the early days it was
- 26:09grow, grow, grow, grow, grow as things start to dwindle off
- 26:13everybody in their own little niche, the intelligence, the,
- 26:17the finance and the religion, they want to make their team
- 26:19seem like the best team. So you have to say, ah,
- 26:21everything's OK, everything's stable.
- 26:23You're not acknowledging the problems that exist.
- 26:27And then comes the collapse. So rises tend to occur really
- 26:32quickly. The American America grew
- 26:36really, really fast as far as a a productive force in the world.
- 26:42The decline of the United States has been over 100 years, right?
- 26:49Collapses happen almost immediately.
- 26:53What happens is the regime starts to become authoritarian.
- 26:59It starts to tell you what you need to do.
- 27:00I'll come back to that later. They start to lie to you and
- 27:04coerce you, pay people to make things seem like they're better
- 27:07than they are or they have a new initiative that they want to get
- 27:10people behind, so they start paying them.
- 27:12And then everybody starts to break off and it becomes about
- 27:15survival and societies. If the government collapses,
- 27:19people start killing each other. They'll start stealing stuff and
- 27:22CrossFit. I think that looks very
- 27:23different. And I think that's the one piece
- 27:28that hints to me that we might be in a collapse situation maybe
- 27:33from just the first adopters are getting out early.
- 27:35But you know, and I hate to name names, but like there has been a
- 27:40rise of like these alternate companies and one in particular
- 27:44is like street parking. I don't think they got out as a
- 27:46survival move, but like there's some things that they've done
- 27:50that I think are survival moves, right?
- 27:54So this is my general. Like, you know what?
- 27:55You know what's not surviving $50 from Chester Springs
- 27:59CrossFit. Thank you.
- 28:00Chester Springs CrossFit. I don't know where you're at,
- 28:02but we like it. So I think this is an easy model
- 28:08to think about. OK, who are the players think
- 28:12about their power and then who like what happens after they
- 28:17purchase? So I'm going to talk about
- 28:19Malik. Nobody's really talked about how
- 28:23to analyze this guy, but he's the guy that we he's the guy
- 28:28we've seen the most from so far. All right, Tyler, you got to
- 28:31pick up your energy Dollar 90. 9 from three, but that.
- 28:34Was textbook content I had to get through, sorry.
- 28:37I would say that does not mean he's in the lead.
- 28:40We've seen the most from him because that's what he wants to
- 28:43do. So I'm going to talk about.
- 28:46And look, Cody, Cody Mansell, Dollar 99.
- 28:48Look at that. Thank you, Cody.
- 28:51All right, Tyler, get angry. Talk about how terrible he is to
- 28:55purchase the company and then how Rich plays into all of that
- 29:01and why what he was doing was so smart for a moment if you'll
- 29:05bring out back up. For a moment.
- 29:08For a moment, bring back up my circle real quick.
- 29:11If y'all thought Chad was bad at the games, what about double
- 29:15Chad? In the basement so.
- 29:19Why not triple Chad? When affiliates, so no matter
- 29:24who buys us, you're going to be thinking, do I stay?
- 29:27Do I do I go, what do I do? Who are these people?
- 29:31This is an easy way to break down.
- 29:34You can look at the pieces of each company and say, OK, do
- 29:37they match here, here and here. We'll start on the intelligence
- 29:41side. So the media, this one's easy
- 29:43with Malik. Let's talk about Move Max.
- 29:46When you're producing media for a company, you look at what he's
- 29:51doing. That media is garbage.
- 29:54You look at any company he's associated with, they do not
- 29:57have a productive output of media.
- 29:59They don't create anything new, anything interesting.
- 30:03They're not preaching a fun narrative.
- 30:05So on the intelligence side now, I will give him a bump on
- 30:08competitors 'cause he knew he needed to go after Rich, which
- 30:11I'll get into in a minute, but it's.
- 30:15What wait? Oh this is for sorry but.
- 30:18Sorry, I mean, I don't, I don't think like the media that he's
- 30:24put out, Tyler Disney not on record saying I don't think
- 30:27CrossFit is effective method of losing weight.
- 30:30Thank you, John. So yeah, here.
- 30:33Here's this gorgeous media he's put out.
- 30:36Beautiful. What are these?
- 30:39I mean, like he's going live on Instagram, driving through what
- 30:43seems to be Miami with the radio blaring, just pointing the
- 30:47camera at the driver. I we have no idea what the fuck
- 30:50this is. Have you not seen his stories?
- 30:56We know what move Max is but like what are you doing putting
- 31:01that video on live? I don't know.
- 31:05This is great media here. So when John's talking about so
- 31:09the the finance piece, I'll hit on real quick he's.
- 31:13Got that covered? I don't think he does you.
- 31:17Don't get money. This sale has been rumored to
- 31:22have closed over the past like what year?
- 31:25Sure, sure. Why do you think that is?
- 31:29I think he's saying it's sold. I think he doesn't actually have
- 31:35the money to back this up because if he did, who?
- 31:39Who's going to slow down a sale when however many millions of
- 31:44dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars, is ready to go?
- 31:48Maybe not him personally, but who do you think?
- 31:51Somebody in the background. Do you think Berkshire cares who
- 31:54they sell it to? Yeah, I think that they have to.
- 31:59If they sell it to somebody and then the company goes under,
- 32:03that looks bad on them. Does it?
- 32:06I think so. I think they don't.
- 32:08Isn't it? They weren't the ones that
- 32:10killed it, Yeah. But why would you buy anything
- 32:12from Berkshire? They're just selling things that
- 32:14are if. They sold it in good shape and
- 32:16then you destroyed it. Berkshire wiped their hands and
- 32:18they're done. I mean that if you go with
- 32:20Savon's theory that if all of the affiliates pull out within
- 32:23the first six months, they have to reverse the sale and that's
- 32:26going to cost some money even if they like no matter what
- 32:29happens. Income Mayhem.
- 32:31And that's going to look poorly on them.
- 32:33Whatever managers made this deal, they're going to be like,
- 32:36what the fuck did you just do? You sold this to a company and
- 32:40he tanked it in six months. All the affiliates left and say
- 32:43did you not vet this guy? Vicki, it's actually the
- 32:47opposite, and Tyler's going to get into that.
- 32:50So on the methodology side, he is openly stated if you look
- 32:56through the French podcast that he did anything that he's put
- 33:00out on Move Max. He does not understand the
- 33:02methodology and therefore will not go on the Crusades that we
- 33:06want. He's talked about you have to
- 33:09outwork how many calories you put in by doing what, 3 hour
- 33:12mech cons? And he go and then he said, and
- 33:14I like to eat. I don't think there's anything
- 33:16wrong with eating. I'm going to eat what I want
- 33:19because I like to eat right? And then I'll just work for
- 33:21three hours and burn all the stuff that I ate off.
- 33:25What are you talking about? Like I don't say my way is the
- 33:28way I I know I eat horribly, you know what I mean?
- 33:32I would never tell somebody hey y'all should do what I do.
- 33:36I ever I just you know I lift heavy if you.
- 33:39Want to? If you want to lift more weight,
- 33:41you can do that. Yeah, you know, I think I think
- 33:43you should absolutely follow JY Barbell, but I would never say,
- 33:47hey, you guys should eat like I eat.
- 33:49Look, look, I look good. Y'all can look good doing this
- 33:52ever I would ever. I would never say that he looks
- 33:55bad and says you should do what he's doing.
- 33:59Just saying. So as people start to figure
- 34:02that so say Malik buys the company, I think if you watch
- 34:06Rich's podcast both with like on the Mayhem show and but then
- 34:10most importantly Savon show, I think Rich felt all of these
- 34:15pieces. He just didn't like he didn't
- 34:17have the model to talk about or didn't know about it, but like
- 34:21he saw the religious side. I think he heard something about
- 34:24the finance side. And then he he probably wasn't
- 34:27really considering all that much the intelligence side.
- 34:30But like that was a huge move by Malik to go after Rich.
- 34:35I think that was the most important move he could make.
- 34:38So there was all this talk about does Rich have 4000 affiliates?
- 34:42We pulled the number or I pulled the numbers and he's got like
- 34:47affiliates 1100 ish, but that doesn't talk about how many gyms
- 34:54are doing his programming. So if we if we put it at there
- 34:58are 10,000 CrossFit affiliates, which I think that's around
- 35:01about what the number is, that's 11% not.
- 35:05Half. Right.
- 35:08Are doing mayhem programming. Right.
- 35:10I think not all of them wouldn't follow wouldn't follow Rich, but
- 35:14if like Rich were to separate, I bet half of those people would.
- 35:18That's 3500. So 1100, I would bet that
- 35:22conversion rate if Rich pulls out is is 80% of gyms that
- 35:28follow mayhem. I would put it at 60.
- 35:31You're looking like you said, John 3500 affiliates, you're
- 35:35now. Controlling What's the gym?
- 35:36What's the gym that follows Mayhem but it's not an
- 35:38affiliate? They just buy the programming,
- 35:40whatever base programming they have.
- 35:42Got it. They're all they're not
- 35:44affiliated with Mayhem. Like a gym that I was at in
- 35:48Auburn did that. My my gym used to, yeah.
- 35:51Yeah, yeah. Oh, they just buy like the
- 35:52individual program and then just modify.
- 35:54Well, I like they it's in sugar water Wattify and then it's just
- 35:57you just select that program and they have like class programming
- 36:00proven has the same thing. Hardware pays off has the same
- 36:02thing. So whenever you look up gyms
- 36:04that do hardware pays off that right, they like they show up.
- 36:08But I figured that was something Tyler, if if you're mayhem and
- 36:14this comes to pass, would you not like incentivize in some way
- 36:23for Jim's to come follow you And then almost like Michael Scott
- 36:28paper company CrossFit in a real sense, that's what it is.
- 36:35Man, go ahead, spin. Hasn't Malik said that like they
- 36:39would lower they they would consider lowering the affiliate
- 36:42fee? Yeah.
- 36:42So you're going to degrade the religion and then you're going
- 36:45to like cripple your finance for what?
- 36:49Like you're already not going to go for.
- 36:51You're going to buy some affiliates for a while and then
- 36:54they're going to realize that you actually don't care about
- 36:56the methodology or the Crusades, and then they'll leave anyway.
- 36:59So this guy's. Doomed.
- 37:01He's going to change CrossFit. Everything's going to be a 40
- 37:04minute metcon and no. One will listen.
- 37:09We'll bury it every single week. We'll get bored of burying it.
- 37:15And so, John, what you're saying is, is the thing that I found
- 37:20alarming a few weeks ago, They're right.
- 37:23Rich is the person to go after. And I think Rich is the most
- 37:26important person in this entire battle that's going on.
- 37:30And I, I think that Rich has had a conversation.
- 37:34I don't know this, I'm just guessing, but I would imagine
- 37:37Rich has had a conversation with every single major player who
- 37:39wants to buy CrossFit right now because they know the keys that
- 37:42he holds. So if we do sell to Malik, so
- 37:46John, what if you're right and he has bought it because that it
- 37:49that's a rumor as well, is that he already like basically it's
- 37:53over. He's bought it rich will leave
- 37:55within the next I dude I would put it like sale date like maybe
- 37:59next day he'll. And dude, if if I'm rich, I do
- 38:03that. So if you watch Rich's podcast,
- 38:06he basically says we just want to do our own thing.
- 38:10I don't know that he realizes the position he's put himself
- 38:14into and how important it is that he used that to sort of
- 38:21save what we have. No, it's almost like I, you tell
- 38:27me how you feel, Tyler, 'cause I, you know, I don't know the
- 38:29all the parts the way you know the parts.
- 38:31I, I know a little about a little and then I try to piece
- 38:34it together in my own. October 7th, right?
- 38:36October 7th, right. But you, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 38:40You know this like I, like, it's not something that I research or
- 38:43dive into. It's not my lane.
- 38:44I don't act like it is my lane. But like, let me ask you say
- 38:48that happens. Say it's sold to Malik.
- 38:53It's announced in some way the very next day.
- 38:57Rich says, hey, this is Mayhem Fitness, we're doing our own
- 39:03thing. I don't claim to be CrossFit,
- 39:06but I think y'all know what's the real deal and what's not and
- 39:09that's it. And he just says it like that,
- 39:10right? And then everybody knows
- 39:14whenever there's 40 minute mech cons every single day on move on
- 39:18you. Know Rich is right there.
- 39:19Right. And then Rich has made him
- 39:21fitness or whatever, however he wants to word it right And it's
- 39:25CrossFit, real CrossFit, whether we call it CrossFit or not.
- 39:29It's almost the death like roll with me.
- 39:33It's the death of CrossFit in the name, but a rebirth of
- 39:37CrossFit so in a new is that you understand what's that with rich
- 39:41at the head that's. What's brilliant about what Greg
- 39:45did, and I don't know that he realized that he did this.
- 39:48Maybe he did, but he he set up this libertarian organization
- 39:54essentially where affiliates can come and go as they please,
- 39:57right? In doing that, he set up a self
- 40:00destruct button. On I I feel like it had to have
- 40:04been on purpose. If somebody buys this or or the
- 40:07future goes sour, you guys can destroy the thing if you want
- 40:11to. In that case, John, if Rich
- 40:14leaves and he doesn't take advantage of the fact that
- 40:17everybody is scrambling and looking or they don't know and
- 40:19they will eventually. What I fear for the future of
- 40:23CrossFit is that we lose the cohesive religion that we have.
- 40:28Rich even said this on the show with seven.
- 40:31They are the the latter day Saints or the what is that the
- 40:37they're they're the Mormons of of of CrossFit.
- 40:40And I don't. I want the religion to stay
- 40:43intact as a whole right now. And what Rich can do.
- 40:47I wouldn't call Rich Mormon. I feel like he wouldn't like
- 40:49that, but go go ahead. He called himself that.
- 40:52I know, but you know, he's he's, you know, he's, he's the
- 40:55Puritans. He's just, he's, he's more like
- 40:57Martin Luther. He's separating.
- 40:59That's what he's doing. It is it is like that.
- 41:02He's Martin Luther separating. It's just 95 thesis time.
- 41:05What about this one from Daniel Garrity?
- 41:07What brings new people into? Because that's actual CrossFit.
- 41:12It's CrossFit and it. I.
- 41:16Think 7 or somebody's brought this up, not 7, but somebody's
- 41:19brought this up of like what brings new people into into
- 41:22Mayhem or yeah, Mayhem affiliates and it is CrossFit.
- 41:25And that's the point. If Rich peels off and the entire
- 41:28structure starts to degrade of CrossFit, that feed for
- 41:32anybody's going down. The reason we are as powerful as
- 41:36we are, as CrossFit, even though we're this small community, but
- 41:39we carry a big stick, is that we all have band together and
- 41:43saying this is the best. We know what we're doing.
- 41:47And the moment that Malik buys this or whoever buys this and
- 41:52doesn't want to pay attention to the religion aspect of CrossFit,
- 41:55that all fades. The way you just become high
- 41:56rocks. High rocks doesn't have the key
- 41:59thing. That's exactly what's going to
- 42:00happen, dude. That's exactly what's going to
- 42:02happen. It's just going to become like
- 42:03high rocks. Can I can I take a small time
- 42:06out? Yeah.
- 42:08I just want to call this person a retarded person.
- 42:14Scenario three. If JY did research, he might
- 42:16know to stop quoting 10/7 October. 7 October 7th.
- 42:21Most thinking people equate that date with a Muslim massacre of
- 42:25Jews. Just happened to have been.
- 42:26On the same if you're if you're watching a CrossFit show that is
- 42:31about CrossFit, that's not political.
- 42:33We talked about this in the beginning.
- 42:34We've not talked about this one time, actually.
- 42:36So you're the one bringing this up.
- 42:39You're the one who I guess can't understand things without
- 42:42context. And I would I would say if you
- 42:46get offended by that, then, you know, don't watch the show.
- 42:49Like I won't miss you. We don't need you.
- 42:54So the one power play remaining. So my first prediction.
- 42:58Go ahead, spin, look. I want to hear your first
- 43:01prediction. First, my first prediction is
- 43:03somebody buys it and the entire thing collapses.
- 43:06Within three years, everybody starts leaving, Rich pulls out,
- 43:11and the entire CrossFit ecosystem disintegrates within
- 43:14three years. If Malik buys it.
- 43:18Malik or a party, I think like if I and I don't know if they're
- 43:22in the game or not, but I'm just going to throw a company out
- 43:25there. If it's say, Adidas buys it, I
- 43:28think that would breathe a little bit more decline, like
- 43:31the decline timeline prolongs itself a little bit more.
- 43:38But the religion part I. Was going to let you talk.
- 43:42What was it going to say? Anything.
- 43:43But the religion part is the important piece, and people are
- 43:46leaving right now because the religion piece.
- 43:49What if the leaders bought Mayhem Fitness?
- 43:54I mean it would stay intact. And then just like rocketed it.
- 43:59And then everything that WFP wish they were.
- 44:03That's what Mayhem Fitness becomes, and it's the world.
- 44:06Championships. Jorge and Haley are Adidas
- 44:08athletes, so it could happen. I'm just it's the world fitness
- 44:10championships, like if they end up coming out with that, like I,
- 44:12I'm curious, how do you think this affects the CrossFit game?
- 44:15Should that come about? I I can, I can, I can roll with
- 44:21OK, that sucks, but I'm going to rock with rich dude.
- 44:27I really ain't like like my my internal feelings like I'm
- 44:30rocking with I know the spirit of CrossFit, if you will, or
- 44:34like it. I like I like Tyler's diagram
- 44:36kind of paints it all. Rich has all that.
- 44:40That's why he's important. John, he and I've called him
- 44:44this before, he is the last remaining.
- 44:48Who were the guys that followed Jesus around Apostle.
- 44:51He's the last remaining disciple.
- 44:54He's the last remaining disciple that has balls.
- 44:57He's the last one that will throw shots and say, no, you're
- 45:00wrong, no, this is bad. He just says it as it is and
- 45:05that's why he's so important in this.
- 45:09That's why that works, John, is if they buy Mayhem too.
- 45:12I would call him Paul in the Bible.
- 45:14He's not he he, he was not, he wasn't one of those guys, but he
- 45:18ended up like he got all the new people.
- 45:21Eder was pretty bad ass before he became Paul.
- 45:23Yeah, but like, he's Jewish. No, no, no.
- 45:25It's Saul became Paul. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 45:28You're you're upsetting missus spin.
- 45:30I came here all high off my workout.
- 45:32She went to CrossFit, came home all excited, had a great workout
- 45:36and now I like the route is 1 apart.
- 45:39So prediction #2 and this is, I don't know that Rich is
- 45:45considered this. And if he hasn't, here you go.
- 45:47I hope you already have. But Rich is not the only player
- 45:53that can make this way. So say he has 25% of affiliates,
- 45:57right? And he leaves, that breaks down
- 45:59the system. But he can pull together guys
- 46:02like Khalipa. He has great relations with
- 46:06people in Europe. He has a decent amount of
- 46:09affiliates in Europe and across the world.
- 46:12I think of those 1100, it's like 700 in the United States.
- 46:16So he has a decent pool around the world.
- 46:18I don't leave CrossFit anyway. We're does Fekundo fit fall into
- 46:22this 'cause he was? Oh, there, there's some stuff
- 46:26going on, man. I, I don't think we're at
- 46:28liberty. It's a time you want.
- 46:30To do I? I have no idea.
- 46:32So I don't know. I hear he's on the way out.
- 46:35I hear that. I hear he's out.
- 46:37Which makes sense. Like if you're burned by Malik
- 46:40and you were the guy that. That's better way to put it for
- 46:44Kundos. Team Malik and richest and
- 46:49richest, not Team Malik. So if rich bands together with a
- 46:53few other large community members, we actually can salvage
- 46:56the whole, there can be a takeover essentially of what
- 47:01CrossFit is. Berkshire will have to buy it
- 47:04back at that point if it if it collapses within six months.
- 47:09Do we know? Do we know that clause is
- 47:11actually in there? I would assume it's in there I
- 47:13think. That's I wouldn't assume
- 47:15anything, Tyler. Maybe not.
- 47:17If I'm Berkshire, I'll do. I don't accept that clause.
- 47:20I'm like, heck no, it's on you. I'm not buying this thing.
- 47:23We see where this is headed, man.
- 47:25You go ahead and you take the risk.
- 47:29You accumulate some of those other community members and then
- 47:33they'll buy CrossFit at a discount regardless.
- 47:36Rich and the other group, right? At that point, they'd probably
- 47:40be able to assign some sort of CEO or person that they would,
- 47:44you know, have over top of it. And then we would be saved.
- 47:48The rise would take another 10 years and it would hurt for a
- 47:52while, but I think that is the that is the saving grace behind
- 47:56what's going like into the future.
- 48:01What would that mean for the CrossFit Games?
- 48:08Tough. Tough thing to think about,
- 48:09yeah. I think it would get.
- 48:15Because all that stuff's going to take a minute.
- 48:17Yeah, I think it would get distilled back down into
- 48:22something a little smaller. But I'm saying would the would
- 48:26CrossFit have the CrossFit Games?
- 48:30Or would Rich have his own fitness championship or what?
- 48:35What does that mean for the CrossFit Games?
- 48:38When you say smaller, just smaller in money or smaller in
- 48:43every I. Mean if there are less
- 48:45affiliates, if the community's estranged, I think, yeah, it
- 48:49would be forced to be less expensive, be less, you know,
- 48:54majestic in its entirety. But I think it would survive.
- 48:58I don't think that I don't think that Rich would stop the
- 49:01CrossFit Games. Would any of his Mayhem people
- 49:06do the CrossFit Games? Would Austin Hatfield not do the
- 49:11CrossFit Games? That's Ortega's point, is what
- 49:16I'm really worried about. If if HQ breaks down and WFP
- 49:20just holds on. That's their whole.
- 49:22It's been their whole strategy the whole time, out last.
- 49:24Thrive because they're the last player out there.
- 49:27If they can survive with six figure contracts, we'll get to.
- 49:31That you just hang on, you just focus on your cell stuff.
- 49:34That's not, that's not. We're not there yet, Tyler.
- 49:36This is a really pivotal moment and I think like to me, it feels
- 49:41like the calm before the storm. I think regardless of what
- 49:43happens, it's going to be an active next year and I'm hopeful
- 49:49I America being the leader in CrossFit affiliates, we love a
- 50:00good revolt, we love a good revolution.
- 50:04And so that and we have really good stakeholders that would
- 50:08band us all back together. And I think so I do think that
- 50:11there's a good way out of this. It's just I'm nervous about like
- 50:15WFP and what happens next, but I think we're in a tight spot.
- 50:20Sure. Lee Frazier, 999 Thank you, Lee,
- 50:22you're going to you're going to need if cross it fails to all
- 50:25move to Cookeville. I'm close enough.
- 50:27I think WFP sees this is like this is our chance like that and
- 50:32that might be where the six figure stuff comes to me and
- 50:34move to that to do you want to move to that?
- 50:36Well, I have. I have one question though.
- 50:38Before that, if Malik doesn't buy it, who does?
- 50:45And is is there a situation where Rich is happy?
- 50:51Whoever he's partnered with, I've.
- 50:52Wondered about that. I think him hiring Austin tells
- 50:59me that he is not hype on anybody who is a potential
- 51:04buyer. But Malik's the only guy that
- 51:08he's would separate from CrossFit.
- 51:12So. Correct or not not correct.
- 51:15I think it sounds like he would separate.
- 51:17He's going to separate regardless.
- 51:20Yeah, I think, I think the potential buyer would have to be
- 51:25really good in Rich's eyes and him.
- 51:28I mean, I think that they needed Austin anyway with the amount of
- 51:31volume that they're doing and the things that they want to
- 51:33pull off. But I think that that was
- 51:36Austin's hire was pre empting a major influx of affiliates.
- 51:44Why wait for the sale? Instead of leave now.
- 51:49Yeah. He still believes.
- 51:54But Spin just asked, who could it be sold to for Rich to be
- 51:57happy? What's he believing in like?
- 52:00I mean, I'm, I consider you hiring Austin like, 'cause
- 52:04there's a good chance this might happen.
- 52:06Like we need to prepare, right? Because you can't just announce
- 52:09it the day after and not have any preparation, right?
- 52:12But Spin just asks, who would he be happy for if you go?
- 52:15He still believes what's he believing in?
- 52:18What is that? And, and in that scenario, like
- 52:22I feel like Malik is the bad guy because he wants to
- 52:25fundamentally change everything that we have as CrossFit.
- 52:29You know, I know people have a different definition of what is
- 52:31CrossFit 'cause you could literally say anything is
- 52:32CrossFit, right? But Malik wants to change.
- 52:36At least it has the appearance that he doesn't know the
- 52:40methodology whatsoever and he's going to make it what he would,
- 52:45you know, 60 minute mech cons. He doesn't think CrossFit is the
- 52:48cure to obesity. Like he doesn't, right?
- 52:53So what? Who like, you know, I always
- 52:57thought Rich is separating because of that.
- 53:00But if it's literally any, any company that's going to buy
- 53:05them, they're all not all Malik. Like if he still believes, what
- 53:08is he believing in? We need to back up real quick.
- 53:12Archana Thakur, who is Austin? I kept on thinking Hatfield or
- 53:17John, whoever, John Austin. Aliello OG CrossFit Games
- 53:24athlete. He later ran CrossFit.
- 53:28Reebok one he's been with CrossFit, he made him, and James
- 53:32Hobart made the cap program. No, it's him.
- 53:35It was him and Spencer. Spencer handles that was that
- 53:38was ham programming. Got bought out by CrossFit and
- 53:42turned into CAP programming. Right.
- 53:44And he's worked with HQ for a minute.
- 53:46Yeah. And now he's he, he was head of
- 53:50some type of something to do with affiliates.
- 53:52Yeah, I don't know exactly his. Director of affiliates, he's got
- 53:55a large amount of accolades. I mean, he's been, I had heard
- 53:59about the Reebok cross at one days and like how well that ship
- 54:02ran. Of course, like it's not going
- 54:03to run terrible because you have more funds than you know what to
- 54:06do with. But you know, I he makes sense
- 54:11for a hire there. So yeah, that's who we're
- 54:14talking about. So.
- 54:18Yeah, Dane o'garrady. WFP dies if CrossFit dies.
- 54:22They're all endosymbionts within the CrossFit ecosystem.
- 54:26It's just a matter of time before the flame flickers out.
- 54:33I mean who knows in that case the WFP might like start trying
- 54:37to play ball. Well, I I mean, did you see the
- 54:43reel I put in of Noah? Yeah, I didn't understand the
- 54:50context though. Might you explain?
- 54:56So he was asked trying to think it was a question about like
- 55:05the, the methodology and is it separate from the sport.
- 55:08And he kind of went down a little rabbit hole and this is
- 55:11where it LED him. And then he, he, he kind of got
- 55:13a little like, wait a minute, what we were talking about.
- 55:17So it was an interesting segment of it.
- 55:21And, and to give a little context, this interview was done
- 55:25either late March or early April and just now published by Men's
- 55:31Health. So I mean, just first of all,
- 55:33think about that. That's crazy.
- 55:34You wait four months to publish something, 4 1/2 months, maybe 5
- 55:40before you publish something. Like they're talking about stuff
- 55:42that. His old news, Yeah.
- 55:44They're talking about the World Fitness project and how it's
- 55:47like exciting to try it and like, we don't know a whole lot
- 55:49about it. We don't know what the workouts
- 55:51are going to look like, like crazy stuff.
- 55:54And then it's like we're we're approaching the second one.
- 55:58I don't like, just put it out there.
- 56:02You've had this for forever. Here we go.
- 56:05Tenology can exist without the sport.
- 56:07The sport cannot exist without the methodology.
- 56:09I guess I don't know if I've ever made that connection.
- 56:12In my mind, the methodology can exist with other sport.
- 56:15The sport cannot exist without the methodology.
- 56:19Weird. Yeah.
- 56:21That just comes off strange to me.
- 56:23Yeah. But if you said it four months
- 56:26ago, it might make sense four months ago.
- 56:30Yeah. Like it's, I think it's
- 56:34something to consider though, when all of this, if this
- 56:37happens and there is things breaking apart and, and you
- 56:43know, we'll, I think we'll move on to Mesa and, and carry this
- 56:49conversation. But I think what happens in Mesa
- 56:53is pretty telling of what. The future of WFP is.
- 56:57What the sport, the sport is and I don't consider the CrossFit
- 57:01Games of sport. We'll we'll get into that right
- 57:04after. Before, I wanted to know what
- 57:08you thought of my prediction. Disagree.
- 57:09Disagree. I don't know if you predicted
- 57:13anything, you kind of just spelled everything out.
- 57:17Well, I mean, he's, he has some predictions.
- 57:19They don't have to. What do you think the future of
- 57:21the sport would be? 2027 What's CrossFit look like?
- 57:25Not even just the sport, the methodology itself.
- 57:28All of it. The entire ecosystem I.
- 57:34Mean is it 1, is it one, or is it and is it all separated?
- 57:37Well. That's the thing.
- 57:40It's like in in 2027, is it still CrossFit or is it Mayhem
- 57:45something? Else yeah.
- 57:46Yeah, yeah. What 27?
- 57:48What's everything like that? Yeah, it's crazy.
- 57:52I'm asking you, Tyler. Oh, I I already said like to me
- 57:56there's, there's two paths. There's what do you what path do
- 58:01you? Choose well, there's three
- 58:02paths. I don't choose any.
- 58:05What do you think's going to happen?
- 58:08Tell well we're too early John. I don't know who's about to buy
- 58:11it if Malek buys it for then that's why I'm saying there's
- 58:14three different routes. If Malek buys it, Rich leaves in
- 58:19that at that point it either dies in six months or Rich takes
- 58:22over with a group of other individuals.
- 58:25Same thing sort of happens if a a larger company buys it and
- 58:30Rich doesn't like them. the IT would be more like a 5 to 10
- 58:35year timeline. If and then there's the case
- 58:39that somebody that Rich appreciates and trust buys it,
- 58:44then we're OK. But then you have to analyze
- 58:47like, are they going to actually preach the methodology in the
- 58:50crusade part? And that's like the thing that
- 58:53CrossFit has started to get right with this fuck campaign is
- 59:00they're starting to preach the crusade part, they're starting
- 59:03to preach the methodology part. And I like this part, continue
- 59:07to do that. But like, is it going to last
- 59:10through the new the next sale? Yeah, that's a good question.
- 59:13TG 3/19/99 Thank you. TG isn't Austin Austin Malleolo,
- 59:18the guy who forced people to wear masks and disclose their
- 59:21VAC status to go to his gym? I can read it again, but you.
- 59:28Know what you like to me. Repeat.
- 59:30Is it? I don't.
- 59:32Know he was in. I know.
- 59:34Yeah. He was in Boston at the time, I
- 59:37think, or up in the Northeast. Was it still with Reebok
- 59:41CrossFit One? I don't know if it was with
- 59:43Reebok 1. I want to say he was a Dick to
- 59:45Matt Fraser too. When Matt walked into his gym
- 59:48and he was like get out. Which is cool.
- 59:52I don't think. I don't think so.
- 59:53Oh my God, John, I forgot about that.
- 59:58I mean, Matt never said whose name it was, but.
- 1:00:01You thought Austin, that's a good.
- 1:00:03Kind of put put two and two together.
- 1:00:06I would imagine Austin was. Maybe not.
- 1:00:09It might not because I think he said Austin's name in that same.
- 1:00:13Maybe. Little thing?
- 1:00:14Maybe not, but. I would imagine Austin was
- 1:00:16compelled. I'm not saying that's right,
- 1:00:18that it's right or wrong that he did it.
- 1:00:20I'm just saying that there's outside considerations like his
- 1:00:23feet might have been held to to the fire in ways that we don't
- 1:00:26know, but him being in the Northeast, I would imagine so.
- 1:00:31Yeah, there's a lot of wacky stuff in Boston.
- 1:00:33Alan Pugh. What happens if there is no sale
- 1:00:37and Berkshire does not get the offer that?
- 1:00:39That's not going to happen. Then they're like Will Smith and
- 1:00:42Fresh Prince of Bel Air, like, why does nobody want me?
- 1:00:46You know one of those. That was, that was, that's the
- 1:00:50darkest episode of that entire series.
- 1:00:56I mean, they have to sell, right?
- 1:01:01If nobody buys them. What do they do?
- 1:01:05Do you just stop? Yeah, I'll just, you know, it's
- 1:01:07on the books. Just keep on.
- 1:01:09You're still making money on the books.
- 1:01:11They're doing, they're doing all right.
- 1:01:12I don't think Berkshire is going to go broke because of CrossFit,
- 1:01:15No, but. They'll pull back funding.
- 1:01:20They've. Even given it any funding.
- 1:01:22Guys, we just, we just need to make a huge push for Elon.
- 1:01:27To buy CrossFit. No.
- 1:01:29Yeah, no, yeah. Did you say no?
- 1:01:32But he would just give us money and then let it how?
- 1:01:34Let us run it how we want to run.
- 1:01:36It he would, he would definitely not do that.
- 1:01:38Why? Dude it's 100,000,000 the 1st.
- 1:01:40Thing he's done in any company he's bought is fired like half
- 1:01:43the staff, which I mean maybe. Half the staff, yeah.
- 1:01:47Yeah, dude. Sorry, Chase.
- 1:01:49We're not staff, OK, Chase. Yeah, Chase, that's rough, but
- 1:01:54you know, OK, Well, it makes. Chase will be one of the the
- 1:01:57same. Zuckerberg.
- 1:01:58He does CrossFit kinda. He does CrossFit about like I'm.
- 1:02:03Just saying it's just an easy fix is all I'm saying.
- 1:02:06Dana White. Like.
- 1:02:08We just make a hard push for one of these guys.
- 1:02:12I know somebody that Tyler could get behind Portnoy.
- 1:02:17Even Portnoy dude like he's he's good at putting other people in
- 1:02:21charge of. Things the community would be
- 1:02:23freaked out if Portnoy bought it because the first thing he does
- 1:02:26is hire Savon back and shit gets wild.
- 1:02:29After that, we're going to be doing reality series and
- 1:02:32costume. Dude.
- 1:02:34You're not making it sound bad. I mean, hey I dude, I'll eat the
- 1:02:41whole pizza and then do Fran. I guess it's it'll be fine
- 1:02:44there. We go all right guys, we'll be
- 1:02:47right back to talk about some Mesa stuff.
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- 1:04:16If you listen to Tyler just a minute ago, Mesa esque, 2 days
- 1:04:22from now they're going to be running out on soccer fields
- 1:04:26doing a two mile run. John, you excited?
- 1:04:29I'm I'm so just. You got lost in on Instagram.
- 1:04:37So excited. No, no, I'm not.
- 1:04:40What does Peterson mean? I, I, you know, I'm kind of
- 1:04:43like, I don't like that I have to watch it.
- 1:04:48We don't have to. We weren't paid the 1030
- 1:04:51dollars. I understand, but you know, I
- 1:04:55talk with these guys like, you know, Chris, you know if Chris.
- 1:05:01Yeah, Bara. No, just the professionals
- 1:05:04whenever he's he's challenger, isn't he?
- 1:05:07No, he's or is he? Is he, is he challenger or did
- 1:05:09he make the leap? I.
- 1:05:11Think he well, he's a challenger still, he's not a sign pro.
- 1:05:14You know. And he's only in the Challenger
- 1:05:16division, so he's going to be throwing away the he's throwing
- 1:05:18those baby weights around. I'm not talking to Chris about
- 1:05:21workouts until he can be at least a professional.
- 1:05:24Come on now. Now the game game's time.
- 1:05:26Game's time. I'll start talking to Chris.
- 1:05:28But I mean, I don't care to talk to a challenger, you know, OK,
- 1:05:34I'm just kidding. I love Chris.
- 1:05:35Chris is great. Chris is going to be a perennial
- 1:05:38games athlete. Hey, y'all should get to know
- 1:05:39his name. It's going to take a minute to
- 1:05:41be top ten, but you know, he's he's he's going to be there.
- 1:05:46Chris Ibarra. No, I just, it's just, it's just
- 1:05:52like I have to watch it to make sure I know what happens in
- 1:05:55case, you know, something cool happens.
- 1:05:58But no, I'm not exactly excited to watch it.
- 1:06:01I, I, I'm here and I mean this with all due respect.
- 1:06:06Oh boy. I put this about 1 rung above
- 1:06:14the Woman's Rogue Invitational Strong Woman show.
- 1:06:18So high, yeah, but. We remember the strong.
- 1:06:21Women, we can cast that thing so I.
- 1:06:23Know I know you. Remember.
- 1:06:25The strong women, you know, I put this above that, not much.
- 1:06:33Now I will say the production is usually great.
- 1:06:35Like from the last one, they did the competition great.
- 1:06:38Whoever is in charge of like actually making the competition,
- 1:06:41it is great. It really is.
- 1:06:43It's really good. But like the storytelling, the
- 1:06:47just just just how it's run. It just looks like it's really
- 1:06:50ran well, like the actual competition when you get there.
- 1:06:55But I, I would, you know, the workouts lack something, the
- 1:07:00storytelling is non existent. And then it's just, it's just
- 1:07:04everything else about it is just not great.
- 1:07:08What about this run course? That was the music I was
- 1:07:11playing. I know, I know you care a lot
- 1:07:13about this. I I don't really care.
- 1:07:15How did you? Well, I won't ask how you got
- 1:07:18it, but how sure are you this? This is the run course.
- 1:07:20This is the run course. I mean this is Will Morad
- 1:07:23sharing this video of two mile loops.
- 1:07:26We've got -30 dollars. Yes -30 So the rookie numbers
- 1:07:32that's right, No, if you so will ran 3/2 mile repeats out at the
- 1:07:39Arizona Athletic Grounds. And then there was a World
- 1:07:43Fitness project story I think that put up a after after I
- 1:07:46posted this a little like thing that they run under that looks
- 1:07:51like a start line. So it could, it could just be
- 1:07:56that he was running 2 miles out there on the grounds like in a
- 1:07:58random course, but it feels like he would actually run the course
- 1:08:02that they're going to. I will say this post is kind of
- 1:08:06cool. Like if the CrossFit games did
- 1:08:08this, I think it'd be neat like posting it like this.
- 1:08:12I I mean, you're welcome. World Fitness project.
- 1:08:15Yeah, it being on it's. X-45 in the morning.
- 1:08:23It's going to be hotter than the blue blazes that have.
- 1:08:25To be like upper 80s or load. We've been on turf when it's
- 1:08:29hot. It's not you're in the, it's the
- 1:08:31morning. It's the morning.
- 1:08:33Like fucking yeah. But it's dry heat.
- 1:08:36Yeah, you're totally fine. OK.
- 1:08:40It's fine. It's fine.
- 1:08:41Please. Say, for all the people who
- 1:08:43bitched about heat, if there aren't 87 Yeti coolers with ice
- 1:08:47in them that you can jump in, get out of here.
- 1:08:51I agree. If there is no water on this
- 1:08:53course, Oh my goodness. We need to send John.
- 1:08:58Andy Doors daughter's out there, right?
- 1:08:59She's supposed to be commentating.
- 1:09:01I swear, if there's no water on this course and Andy doesn't
- 1:09:04talk about the water. Hey, if you're working the WFP
- 1:09:08event and you have any access to the broadcast, I'll pay you
- 1:09:11whatever money we make to get for the show to just give Amy a
- 1:09:16water like every two minutes. Hey, do you need water?
- 1:09:18Yeah. Hey, do you need water?
- 1:09:19But. But the little small ones were
- 1:09:21so she will be able to drink it right, The little tiny ones and
- 1:09:25then just keep, just keep. But like your hand needs to be
- 1:09:27in the shop. Like 87.
- 1:09:29Your your hand of like so it's like just like scooting a water
- 1:09:34bottle into frame just just every two minutes.
- 1:09:39I will say the this actual venue looks pretty freaking sweet.
- 1:09:44That's what dude, they do things.
- 1:09:47There are some things they do like really, right and then and
- 1:09:51then they just, they just suck at all the rest of it.
- 1:09:55Where was it? What did they do right?
- 1:09:58Dude, I mean, other than the, the, the competition, I think
- 1:10:03the competition's good. I know, I know we like the hate
- 1:10:05on it, but like, I think the competition is good.
- 1:10:08I think it's ran good. The wait times are good, the
- 1:10:12events are somewhat good. I don't think the events are all
- 1:10:14that exciting, but but but I think the competition is good.
- 1:10:21It's just the build up is terrible and the OR the
- 1:10:28marketing is not great and. Nobody cares about the sport.
- 1:10:34What should I say? Yeah, no, no.
- 1:10:36I mean, like, I don't know, I disagree with that.
- 1:10:40I know, I I know what you're getting at.
- 1:10:42The competitors don't drive money to it, right.
- 1:10:47But like, and I'm in a unique position, like I enjoy watching
- 1:10:50fitness. People don't enjoy watching
- 1:10:52fitness. They want to root for their
- 1:10:54character. They want favorites, they want
- 1:10:57villains, which is storytelling. And if there is not that, like
- 1:11:03if Jason Hopper, who is the fittest man in the world, is at
- 1:11:07a gym working out, nobody cares. Nobody cares.
- 1:11:11Ask him if they care because he works out at Crash by himself
- 1:11:15all the time. I've watched him in action and
- 1:11:17nobody's looking at him. Nobody cares, right?
- 1:11:21But whenever there's stories, it's fun.
- 1:11:26It's fun to root for your favorite whenever there's a
- 1:11:29fantasy league around it. I'm I'm just, I know, I'm I know
- 1:11:32I'm super biased, but when you are heat 1 and you're going
- 1:11:36against your friends or whatever, if y'all put in like
- 1:11:39secretly put money on it or whatever, it gives you something
- 1:11:43to root for. Heat 1 does not advise to get.
- 1:11:45One it it gives you something to root for.
- 1:11:47And so, but if those stories are not there and the people in
- 1:11:52charge of making them are so bad, the fact that they're like,
- 1:11:56I didn't know who Austin Hatfield was.
- 1:11:57You have Annie Thor's daughter saying I didn't know, I didn't
- 1:12:02know who Austin was. And I mean, that means you are
- 1:12:05out of the loop. That means.
- 1:12:06You're not really. No, it's not that.
- 1:12:09It's not that, Tyler, because everybody's on the train.
- 1:12:13Nobody was on the train when I said this was going to happen.
- 1:12:16But every I would say everybody knew who he was after the
- 1:12:20CrossFit Games last year. Yes.
- 1:12:23Right. And then he goes off and gets
- 1:12:26second in water. Palooza right, sorry, thank you.
- 1:12:31Tiawatapalooza wins the mayhem classic and and then world
- 1:12:35fitness project happened after that and you and you said I have
- 1:12:40I had no idea who that guy was like that is insane, right?
- 1:12:46You should not be talking about it if you don't know who these
- 1:12:49people are. She's not the senior analyst in
- 1:12:51this. World, it doesn't matter man, it
- 1:12:54doesn't matter. Have better people on it.
- 1:12:56Have Seth talk more. Seth knows who they are.
- 1:13:00Have him talk more. You should not be on there
- 1:13:02saying you don't know who the winner of your competition is
- 1:13:05free. Seth.
- 1:13:08It's it's just, it's just little things, little things like that.
- 1:13:11You know, and you got Lauren on the documentary being like, like
- 1:13:15he kind of came out of nowhere. He didn't come out of nowhere
- 1:13:19like y'all are like y'all are just dumb.
- 1:13:22If you think he if he think he came out of nowhere and I'm it's
- 1:13:24not just him. This is just like it's, it's,
- 1:13:26it's all of it's all the it's, it's a whole bunch of little
- 1:13:29things. It's a whole bunch of little,
- 1:13:30but that's storytelling all in a nutshell.
- 1:13:33They're really bad at storytelling and that's what
- 1:13:36makes people watch. What do you make of the athletes
- 1:13:42pulling out? So we got Jeff, Jeff Adler's
- 1:13:47hurt from something. Hayley Adams is should F this,
- 1:13:53I'm out. Emma McQuaid is hurt so she
- 1:13:56can't compete and CrossFit, but she can do motorbike racing.
- 1:14:00You've got Flores got knocked up and is there anybody else,
- 1:14:05somebody else I'm missing? Kazan.
- 1:14:07Kazan decided to get in a car accident.
- 1:14:10Yonokoski had a baby or like yesterday.
- 1:14:14Are we still over under on that on him coming?
- 1:14:17His wife had a baby. His wife had a baby.
- 1:14:20He I figured that. I figured that was assumed.
- 1:14:22I can't imagine he flies over and does tries to do this, so
- 1:14:28he's probably out. I went to syndicate 12 days
- 1:14:31post. Who was butt hurts?
- 1:14:34Literally and physically. OK.
- 1:14:38That's both literal. Oh yeah, I guess metaphorically,
- 1:14:43you know it, it's a multiple ways.
- 1:14:45Metaphysical. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:14:47Yeah, so they're they're, they're already skipping out.
- 1:14:51I'm surprised Alexis Raptis is competing.
- 1:14:55I I too was surprised but if you can go and just do chip shots
- 1:14:59the entire time. Might as well.
- 1:15:04I mean, how many events did Bethany just really not do?
- 1:15:09Well, she was pregnant, you know.
- 1:15:11Right, but I mean, if she sets the precedent for, you can just
- 1:15:15go and be like. Show up all of the Instagram
- 1:15:18posts of people who aren't doing your competition saying climbing
- 1:15:23the ladder, you know, and you don't even know you didn't even
- 1:15:26know Bethany was pregnant. Like this is a problem.
- 1:15:29It is a problem. They do a lot of stuff wrong.
- 1:15:32And I actually think the competition is good.
- 1:15:35But also you got all this stuff happening that's been alluding
- 1:15:38to and it's only going to get worse.
- 1:15:41I don't know. And you if if people don't come
- 1:15:44and watch, but for Alice Kazan, they for Dang sure ain't coming
- 1:15:48and watching for Danny Camacho like like.
- 1:15:51You know, I know he took 30th. Hayley Adams is not going to
- 1:15:59retain her card. But just by the way they do
- 1:16:03this. Yes, she literally cannot.
- 1:16:05She will not have enough points no matter what because
- 1:16:09everybody, everybody in the in the competition will have at
- 1:16:11least 600, maybe upwards of 700 on the women's side plus into
- 1:16:17the plus. Yeah, plus into the finals.
- 1:16:19And then you get at least 500 points.
- 1:16:21So that's that's last place is going to have over 11111 hundred
- 1:16:26points. Haley could only get 1000.
- 1:16:28So she's out. I don't think she does it next
- 1:16:30year, right? You don't you don't go to the
- 1:16:34challenge. Like if you do not qualify as a
- 1:16:36pro, you're like you go through the challenger.
- 1:16:39Like screw this. You can't even fill out the
- 1:16:42Challenger division. Right.
- 1:16:44Yes, you're having to raise the minimum for the the pro
- 1:16:49division. They're adding slots to the Pro
- 1:16:51division, allegedly and so. What for next year?
- 1:16:55Allegedly. Oh, they're just.
- 1:16:57They're going to combine it, so it's probably just a 40th lead
- 1:16:59field is my guess. Right, Right.
- 1:17:02Dude, their strategy truly is we just got to wait CrossFit out.
- 1:17:07Like we just got to wait for them to F it up.
- 1:17:09That's going to be expensive weight.
- 1:17:10Well, it sounds like if this wild rumor of Scott that he
- 1:17:15heard multiple times. Let's see for those of you who
- 1:17:20do not follow, what is it? Let's see.
- 1:17:23Clydesdale. Clydesdale.
- 1:17:25Mr. Mr. Scott here you go. Held rumor this weekend at the
- 1:17:30age group games. I don't have confirmation on
- 1:17:32this. So again, wild rumor that the
- 1:17:36WFP is going to go exclusive next year and they are upping
- 1:17:42the the amount of money they are offering the athletes to pull as
- 1:17:47many of them away from the CrossFit season as possible.
- 1:17:51And that we could be left with two tracks, people who stayed,
- 1:17:55people who left. And the money from what I
- 1:17:59understand is very substantial, possibly in the six figures I
- 1:18:05heard a wild wild 6 figures. I mean, we were hearing about 6
- 1:18:11figure contracts last year. But just for a couple of big
- 1:18:15ones. Yeah.
- 1:18:17But I mean, if you raise say Chris makes pro and barely makes
- 1:18:23pro and he gets a six figure contract, $100,000, it's going
- 1:18:33to be hard to pass up if you're Chris.
- 1:18:36Who do you think is the highest name that takes it?
- 1:18:39Men and men and women. If you have to be exclusive to
- 1:18:43you. Have to be exclusive.
- 1:18:44Yeah, I already know who my answers are.
- 1:18:50The biggest the the the highest ranked.
- 1:18:54Yeah, the biggest name. Biggest name.
- 1:19:00That is going to take it, Jeff. That's my guess.
- 1:19:06Yeah, that's good. I think, I think Jeff.
- 1:19:08I think Jeff takes it and and for the women I think Ariel
- 1:19:11Lowen takes. It see that's so short sighted
- 1:19:13though, because they're not pulling views and there's
- 1:19:17nothing that that's what's crazy to me is like.
- 1:19:20They said this well. They should, and I'll lay out
- 1:19:23why they should. They don't your.
- 1:19:25Your main. So you sell cows, but you don't.
- 1:19:29You don't tell anybody that you're selling them, but you got
- 1:19:33these cows and you're like, fuck, why didn't anybody buy my
- 1:19:35cows? She's like, I know what'll fix
- 1:19:37the problem. I'll buy expensive, more
- 1:19:40expensive cows, twice as expensive and I'll, I'll feed
- 1:19:44them more. I'll, I'll spend 2 times on
- 1:19:46their feed. So now the cows are worth twice
- 1:19:48or three times as much. And they're not allowed to go to
- 1:19:51other. But you're still not taking them
- 1:19:52to the fucking stockyards, and they're kind of your neighbor's
- 1:19:58cows. Like it I really, I really
- 1:20:06goofed it up with the last part. The last part is.
- 1:20:08True. All right.
- 1:20:11Next, next time. No, no, no.
- 1:20:14That was no. We got to move.
- 1:20:15On what you have to think about is that no one, no one's buying
- 1:20:20the cows, no one's coming to watch the.
- 1:20:21I think we're done with the cows, man.
- 1:20:24No one let's. Go horses.
- 1:20:25Let's go horses. Yeah, the.
- 1:20:27Analogy will work so much better with horses.
- 1:20:30So no one's watching the athletes, right?
- 1:20:33But people watch the CrossFit Games.
- 1:20:35People are watching CrossFit content, they're not watching
- 1:20:37WFP content. And so you're talking about
- 1:20:40sponsorship deals. So OK, you take $100,000
- 1:20:43contract. That's why I brought up Chris
- 1:20:45Ibarra because he's not making that in sponsorships, right?
- 1:20:49Chris is taking it, but Jason's not taking it.
- 1:20:52If he thinks about I'm going to get way more views on anything
- 1:20:56associated with CrossFit, right? And therefore my sponsorship
- 1:21:00dollars are going to well out do whatever 100K I'm going.
- 1:21:03To make hold on but but that's what.
- 1:21:10If they who? Who's advising Jason, though?
- 1:21:12Who's advising all of them? Right, Like Cooper, Robbins, all
- 1:21:19those guys. No, like if they tell them, hey,
- 1:21:21Jason, take this money, you're going to get the sponsorships,
- 1:21:25it won't matter. We'll make it work.
- 1:21:27This is on top of everything else you're going to get.
- 1:21:30Do you not believe them? No shot.
- 1:21:33You don't believe him? No, I you can think of what you
- 1:21:36want about Cooper and and he might he might say, hey, this is
- 1:21:39guaranteed money like you're not guaranteed to do what you did
- 1:21:42last year. The games.
- 1:21:43No shot that Jason goes like Jason's going to go.
- 1:21:50I'm doing the games that Cooper's like you shouldn't.
- 1:21:53Why though? Why would Jason do that?
- 1:21:55Because it's the CrossFit Games. It's the CrossFit Games.
- 1:21:59It's what it's crowning. The fittest man and woman on
- 1:22:04earth. I promise.
- 1:22:05No shot. Jason leaves.
- 1:22:07Down. Leaves.
- 1:22:09James leaves. Because they won the title.
- 1:22:13I I and Colton's not even guaranteed money, right, He's
- 1:22:17not on those guys level. He is sometimes, but now there
- 1:22:19are also times that he doesn't. You know, it's because it's the
- 1:22:23no shot that they leave for six for guaranteed 6 figure
- 1:22:29contract. I I don't believe they would at
- 1:22:33all. So if what's, what's crazy and
- 1:22:36the only shot is that if, you know, Malik buys rich separates,
- 1:22:40we're our own thing. And then the collapse is
- 1:22:42happening upon us and world fitness projects like here's a
- 1:22:44guaranteed $100,000. That's the only shot.
- 1:22:48And even then, I don't think you get everybody.
- 1:22:50I don't think you just get everybody, right, 'cause the
- 1:22:53CrossFit Games is still, it's still the fittest man and woman
- 1:22:56on earth, even if we're in the midst of a rebirth, A collapse
- 1:22:59and a rebirth, right? The.
- 1:23:05You're wrong. You're wrong stuff.
- 1:23:09Nope, but you're here. You're not free, you're you're
- 1:23:12making the. Rumor you're in the Matrix.
- 1:23:13Yeah, like, like. It was a rumor I started.
- 1:23:17But I didn't hear he's closer to them than anybody else though.
- 1:23:20Like I just, just and in any of us.
- 1:23:22Yes, the closer you are to danger you.
- 1:23:25I will believe the I'll believe the locker room over anybody
- 1:23:28though, So if it's you know, but anyway, anyway.
- 1:23:31Hey, Seth, what do you, what do you say about this?
- 1:23:33It's. Just an Uber I heard.
- 1:23:34Tell me, tell me, tell me, Seth, is this?
- 1:23:38How do you disagree and argue with this?
- 1:23:41Dance. If it what's crazy is then
- 1:23:47everybody's trying to kill themselves because if World
- 1:23:52Fitness Project does that and then it's the Chris Ibarra's of
- 1:23:55the world that take it. No offense to Chris.
- 1:23:59You basically took all your big names away like what you thought
- 1:24:03was going to work for you. Now you just took them all away
- 1:24:06because the ones that are worth anything are staying for the
- 1:24:09CrossFit Games. And then you have the leftover,
- 1:24:12you have Danny Spiegel and you're like, if you want Danny
- 1:24:14Spiegel, good have her. Everybody else has.
- 1:24:19That's what you've got. I thought this was interesting,
- 1:24:24did you guys see this post? Yeah, look at the look at the
- 1:24:41sprigger. Sprig.
- 1:24:43He's not leaving. Olivia.
- 1:24:48Do you think the Mayhem people are going to do World Fitness
- 1:24:51project? They just no guys.
- 1:24:53I don't. If you're going to comment, just
- 1:24:56please don't use fire emojis whatever you do.
- 1:24:59There's some. Not on a CrossFit post.
- 1:25:06What did you say John? If who leaves?
- 1:25:08If do you think the mayhem people would end up doing
- 1:25:11CrossFit of all that or World Fitness project of all that
- 1:25:13comes to pass? I don't think so either.
- 1:25:16So you you've excluded and again, we don't know.
- 1:25:19We don't know, but but you've excluded the big names that you
- 1:25:24thought would draw in people. And I promise you, even less
- 1:25:28people are going to care if Chris Ibarra is your top name.
- 1:25:32Again, no offense to Chris. I we, we, I, I, I love Chris and
- 1:25:35we're. Just you got to pick somebody
- 1:25:37else. We're dogging on him.
- 1:25:38Yeah, let's pick a different guy.
- 1:25:39Let's for. Macho like, don't you think
- 1:25:43going if, if they really do try to go exclusive route, it's like
- 1:25:49this is our one chance and if it, if the big names say no,
- 1:25:54then we just fold. Yeah, I mean it.
- 1:25:58What? There's a couple of things, like
- 1:26:01I wondered if they meant like if they wanted to do this last
- 1:26:05year. This is this is an underrated
- 1:26:09comment. I everybody's not going to
- 1:26:12understand that, but this is a this is a really good comment.
- 1:26:15Good job. I want so they I feel like they
- 1:26:20meant to do this last year, make exclusive and pay higher
- 1:26:25contracts and they regardless, they have the money now to be
- 1:26:31floating this idea that they're going to pay you.
- 1:26:33There you go. Abby Domitz apparently not doing
- 1:26:37world Fitness project. He's not doing it this year so
- 1:26:39makes sense. Go Abby.
- 1:26:43They're not bringing any money in from the event.
- 1:26:45They're just spending money, a lot of money, a lot more money
- 1:26:49than they're bringing in. And now they're going to raise
- 1:26:51your contracts. If I'm an athlete, I'd be like,
- 1:26:54where was that money last? Was my value not that good last
- 1:26:57year 'cause I'm the same athlete that I was and this league is
- 1:27:00the same math or league that it was, but you're going to pay me
- 1:27:03triple? Wait.
- 1:27:08What's the catch? Well, it speaks to how they
- 1:27:13value. You.
- 1:27:15Oh, you know what's a good name? I'm just curious, Tyler.
- 1:27:19You'd have more inside than I would.
- 1:27:21Does Onica Greer take it? Yeah.
- 1:27:24You really think so? Because she just kind of had a
- 1:27:27breakthrough year. I know she didn't make a lot for
- 1:27:29me in 9th place but. I think she's still.
- 1:27:32In the that's like a hard sell out, man.
- 1:27:34If you're just like, I think it's a hard sell out she's.
- 1:27:37Still in that spot as an athlete where I don't think she has that
- 1:27:40many endorsements. I guess she hasn't made a ton of
- 1:27:43money. I get it.
- 1:27:44I wouldn't fault her for it. I wouldn't be against her for
- 1:27:46it. But I don't know, like you just
- 1:27:48had your first taste the CrossFit Games and then you're
- 1:27:50going to be basically sell yourself for relevancy.
- 1:27:54Inflation, inflationary, I think.
- 1:27:59I think Annika takes it because she doesn't have as many
- 1:28:01sponsorship deals as as everybody else.
- 1:28:03She's not as affected. She knows she's not going to be
- 1:28:05in top five. Just my thought.
- 1:28:10You're right there, Tyler. Listen, this world fitness
- 1:28:14project is making him sick, guys.
- 1:28:17Speaking of World Fitness Project, I think we should go on
- 1:28:19to a new game. New game.
- 1:28:24New game One world, one word. One world, one word.
- 1:28:29Hold on, I got a sum of a different person inside me.
- 1:28:34So this morning, pause. Hold on.
- 1:28:38A different spirit, a little more ethnic of the spirit.
- 1:28:42Who's inside you now, Tyler? Yeah, I say either real.
- 1:28:47What? I don't know.
- 1:28:52I, I asked, I asked the followers on Instagram one word
- 1:28:58when you hear the term WFP in that I got, let's see, a lot of
- 1:29:06responses I had over. I had 337 responses, more of
- 1:29:11been coming in but I had to cut it off somewhere and I received
- 1:29:14194 unique words. That's like 800 thousand
- 1:29:21impressions. It's a lot, and it's almost as
- 1:29:25many stories, as almost as many stories as Hillary got when he
- 1:29:30asked people for. Questions you like that Tyler
- 1:29:35so. We're going to play a game.
- 1:29:38Can John or Tyler? Yeah.
- 1:29:42What people think about. We're we're A-Team here, Tyler.
- 1:29:46I know what the top answer is immediately.
- 1:29:49Do you? Yeah, Do you?
- 1:29:52Gay, gay, you were sick. Oh, I I thought you like had
- 1:30:01like something else, like I was just what was in my head.
- 1:30:04But you think so? OK, I hey, if you are thinking
- 1:30:10about freaking messaging me and saying we're being insensitive
- 1:30:13because we said gay, just don't. No, it's reverse.
- 1:30:17It's. Reverse, it's reverse it's like
- 1:30:19like. I got no problem against those.
- 1:30:22OK. Those That's three words.
- 1:30:31Oh yeah, one word. Sorry, one word.
- 1:30:32Associations. That's right.
- 1:30:35Let's see, I think I I did forgot my my answer key at home,
- 1:30:39so this could be a little interesting.
- 1:30:41All right. Can you guess what the number
- 1:30:45one? We just tried.
- 1:30:48What is it? We said gay you.
- 1:30:50Said Gay. Oh, that is on the top ten list.
- 1:30:53There we go, number two. Wow, there it is.
- 1:30:59That's wild. That is right.
- 1:31:03So there you go. What next?
- 1:31:06What else did? Oh, oh, I do have some some
- 1:31:10comments on here. Of the 194 words, I asked
- 1:31:14ChatGPT to categorize them as positive, negative and neutral.
- 1:31:20There were 34 neutral terms. There were 16 positive terms.
- 1:31:25There are 144 negative terms when you when you associate the
- 1:31:30world fitness project. OK, what?
- 1:31:32Are we? What are we?
- 1:31:33What are we thinking? Maybe new?
- 1:31:39There's not one new. Oh, wait, no, there were.
- 1:31:41There were two, but it was not a top 10.
- 1:31:43So I'm I'm trying to talk it out with Tyler right now.
- 1:31:46Don't jump the gun here. Confused.
- 1:31:51I don't. Think something that's similar
- 1:31:53to confused. There was, there was.
- 1:31:55Let me let me pull this down and then.
- 1:31:58Confusing. Nope, Nope.
- 1:32:04Where was it? Hang on.
- 1:32:07Don't cheat, John. There it is, you, you, you try,
- 1:32:13don't cheat here it is confusion #9.
- 1:32:18It's tied. It is there's, there's five of
- 1:32:20them that are #9 OK, dumb. Sure, I'm I'll.
- 1:32:28I'll be fine with that. Only two people said dumb and
- 1:32:31it's not a top 10, but it was on the IT was on the list You're
- 1:32:34getting, you're getting the words.
- 1:32:35Fake. Fake you.
- 1:32:40You got it, John. That's number one number. 1.
- 1:32:44Six. Wow.
- 1:32:45I don't. Know I don't get that one.
- 1:32:48I don't get that one either. There's a lot of people with
- 1:32:52comments that said fake. That's true and we're just we're
- 1:32:56just searching so I don't I don't get it either.
- 1:33:00What about irrelevant? Irrelevant.
- 1:33:08It is on the list, but only two people said it.
- 1:33:10OK. So it is dumb and stupid the
- 1:33:13same. Those are two different.
- 1:33:15Words. Oh wait, wait, wait.
- 1:33:17Boring. Boring.
- 1:33:20Yeah, it is on there. There you go.
- 1:33:22Hey, I believe. It's.
- 1:33:25These are not our these are not our opinions, guys.
- 1:33:29These are not their opinions. This is the opinions of 337
- 1:33:32people. Yeah.
- 1:33:34So we are this. This is what people are thinking
- 1:33:36of the World Fitness we. Just know the fans.
- 1:33:39The people. Let's go opportunity.
- 1:33:43Opportunity. One, one person said.
- 1:33:47Opportunity. That was Will.
- 1:33:49Are any of the positives in the top 10?
- 1:33:53Great question. He's trying to remember because
- 1:33:59he doesn't know. Kind of like what neutral?
- 1:34:05It's probably more neutral, but I you could you could probably
- 1:34:07interpret it as positive. Fine.
- 1:34:11Definitely two people said that, but it's not it, not it.
- 1:34:18I want to say like a word like expensive, but I don't think
- 1:34:21people are going to write out expensive.
- 1:34:23Nope, not one person. Damn.
- 1:34:26What do people think about the World Fitness Project?
- 1:34:28Money. Money.
- 1:34:30There you go. Money.
- 1:34:34Money. Yeah, there it is.
- 1:34:37There it is. There it is.
- 1:34:40There it is. I got it.
- 1:34:41I got to slide it over. Money. 6 people said money.
- 1:34:47I wonder if dark is 1. They're lighting the lights.
- 1:34:52Somebody did say that, one person said Bark.
- 1:34:55You got it. Did somebody say lights?
- 1:34:59No. OK.
- 1:35:00Nope. Oh, Doomed is a good one.
- 1:35:04Not one person said it was doomed.
- 1:35:05So they're there. CrossFit.
- 1:35:10CrossFit has been, said two people.
- 1:35:13Boy, I've hit all the 2. There's been, there's been a
- 1:35:15decent amount of them on the on the comments, you guys have not.
- 1:35:18Fitness. Not one.
- 1:35:21Project. World, not one.
- 1:35:26The R word. Retarded.
- 1:35:29Only one person said it was retarded.
- 1:35:33Desperate. Zero people said two people 00
- 1:35:43Dude this. Is harder than I thought.
- 1:35:44Yeah, shady. Shady shady was it was on there
- 1:35:50only three though. Boy, we are not good at this
- 1:35:56game. Fake gay.
- 1:36:05Professional. Zero said Professional.
- 1:36:10Oh my. God 0.
- 1:36:14I thought I had it on that what we got a lot of T MU.
- 1:36:18Timo, Timo did make the list. Timo right there.
- 1:36:25Number three, I think I said Timo, how about that?
- 1:36:33Cooked. Not one.
- 1:36:36Retirement. No.
- 1:36:39Nope. Nope.
- 1:36:47Inclusive. Inclusive.
- 1:36:50Wow. Nobody said that, no.
- 1:36:52OK, what's another word for gay bad?
- 1:37:02No, nobody said that. Sad.
- 1:37:04Nobody said sad. Mad.
- 1:37:09Nobody said mad. Rad.
- 1:37:13Definitely nobody said rad. Lame.
- 1:37:19Lame. Yeah, five people said that.
- 1:37:22Hey, I think. It might be not that one.
- 1:37:25OK, we got an S. There it is.
- 1:37:28There it is, his last one. We didn't go with stupid.
- 1:37:33Stupid. Stupid is not in there.
- 1:37:38Sucks. Does not suck.
- 1:37:40Nobody said sucks man. You guys are not getting it.
- 1:37:44No, I think we get four more. Can we get a hint?
- 1:37:48Starts with S. We.
- 1:37:53Slimy. Sneaky.
- 1:37:55Oh, slimy. There's one that said slimy.
- 1:37:58Nobody said sneaky. And you guys are not?
- 1:38:07Sucks is not one. Scam.
- 1:38:10There you go, it is a scam by 5 people.
- 1:38:15I want to get one in the four or so.
- 1:38:17Yeah, give us a hint for the type for four.
- 1:38:20A neutral term and another sport live.
- 1:38:26There you go. Yeah, I.
- 1:38:29Think that's that one? Nope, not that one.
- 1:38:32It's this one. That was an OC, John.
- 1:38:34Oh yeah, yeah, I got you. It's AC.
- 1:38:37Neutral term. Competition.
- 1:38:40That's right, it's a competition.
- 1:38:42Nice. Tyler descriptive.
- 1:38:44It's just very, very descriptive Constitution.
- 1:38:48Let's see the last two on tied for 6th. 1 is a concert and 1
- 1:38:57is. Fire Fest.
- 1:38:59Fire fest, Fire fest it. Is what was the other one.
- 1:39:05And the last one is describing a person or a thing that's
- 1:39:11something else. Imposter.
- 1:39:14Strands. Sorry, it was the first thing
- 1:39:21that came to mind. OK, he said.
- 1:39:24It's close to Imposter. Dang, I really thought I had it
- 1:39:30with Imposter. I can't think of another.
- 1:39:32Name. I always like to think it's
- 1:39:33fake. Deceptive.
- 1:39:41No two people said deceptive, though the other one said
- 1:39:45deceived Will. That is one one person said Will
- 1:39:51not as many as the three people said awoke.
- 1:39:57Another word for imposter. Kind of.
- 1:39:59Safe. No, I'm gonna give this one to
- 1:40:02you guys. It is.
- 1:40:06He was never. Gonna you could have said Spice
- 1:40:09Girls. Spice Girls is your hint.
- 1:40:14Spice Girls is the hint, yeah. I don't know about Tell me what
- 1:40:17you want, what you really, really what I said.
- 1:40:19Tell me what you want, what you really, really what I want to.
- 1:40:21I want to. I want to, I want to, I want to,
- 1:40:23I want to, I want to be a bit is that that's.
- 1:40:26The name of that? Song Spin.
- 1:40:29I'm sorry, I don't. I'm using that I'm clipping
- 1:40:31that. I don't track that.
- 1:40:35Give us the 1st letter and the last one.
- 1:40:38We get 2 we get. We get one apiece, John.
- 1:40:42Let's see, I got to find it. There's so many here.
- 1:40:45You can. Just move it you.
- 1:40:47Just want me to move it. No, just one letter.
- 1:40:51One letter, one letter DD dense. It's a long word.
- 1:41:02Deprecating. Yes, multiple people said
- 1:41:05deprecating, he said. It was a long word DE Oh, I like
- 1:41:11this game we're playing Ek Tyler.
- 1:41:13Name one name something delusional that.
- 1:41:18Didn't work. There it is, delusional there it
- 1:41:21is. That's not a very good list of
- 1:41:25words guys. However, what I would be really
- 1:41:28curious to know is if morning Chalk up did the same thing, if
- 1:41:32they would get the same answers or not.
- 1:41:35No, I bet. Do you think our viewers are
- 1:41:37more negative? They might be like you're more.
- 1:41:40Popular. You think so?
- 1:41:42Maybe. I think so.
- 1:41:44Which Spice Girl am I? I don't know.
- 1:41:48You're you're ginger. Fair enough.
- 1:41:53Taylor probably should be Ginger.
- 1:41:58I don't, I don't, I don't know, I don't I those are the only two
- 1:42:01that I know. That was hard.
- 1:42:03That was way harder than I thought it was going to be.
- 1:42:05I also didn't think we're going to guess 15 words.
- 1:42:07Yeah, that was. Brief.
- 1:42:10I know. Oh man, I'm sorry.
- 1:42:13I apologize for my trans comment.
- 1:42:17Should we take take calls or should we wrap it up and watch?
- 1:42:20Let's do some calls. Let's do 2 calls so.
- 1:42:23Long without doing calls. It's been a while.
- 1:42:26Call in, we'll answer all your questions.
- 1:42:28I have time for two calls and. Then we'll answer anything.
- 1:42:31If we know stuff and you think we know it, call in now.
- 1:42:33Anything. Anything.
- 1:42:35You want to ask anything and we will tell the truth.
- 1:42:38We're not going to beat around the Bush.
- 1:42:39Maybe if you want to ask something super personal, we
- 1:42:42will answer it. You want to ask something about
- 1:42:46any interaction we've had with anybody, we will answer it.
- 1:42:49Anything the unknown. I specifically want you to call
- 1:42:52in because I just want to. I want to hear your.
- 1:42:54Voice, I want to hear your voice I want Crossfat to call in.
- 1:42:57You 2 crossfat. I know you're listening.
- 1:43:00That would be good. Any question you guys want that
- 1:43:03phone lock your number not blowing up.
- 1:43:05What if he had? What if he had like a James
- 1:43:07Hobart like voice changer? We still said it was James.
- 1:43:12Yeah, not Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton probably shouldn't
- 1:43:14call. No, I want a legitimate
- 1:43:18question. Let's see, I want to remove this
- 1:43:21one look. Oh, are they they're.
- 1:43:29Live. Like 50 of the athletes did we
- 1:43:32talk about this. We have like 45 or 50 and I can
- 1:43:35tell you I have at least 10 to 15 of.
- 1:43:37Them talk about what? With unsolicited said that they.
- 1:43:41Oh, oh, here we go. Oh.
- 1:43:43Boy. Here we go.
- 1:43:44I really was wanting to know what she said.
- 1:43:47I don't know, caller, can you hear us?
- 1:43:53Can you, can we hear you please hold.
- 1:43:57Oh. Let's see as.
- 1:43:58We wait for the next available line to open.
- 1:44:00Right now, caller, can you hear us?
- 1:44:02Can you hear me? Now, yeah, you gotcha.
- 1:44:05Yes, I can hear you. Now what You?
- 1:44:07What you. Welcome.
- 1:44:09Welcome. Hi guys.
- 1:44:10It's well, well, thank you. This is my name is Meredith.
- 1:44:15The last time I called in, I beat JY in a game, and I really
- 1:44:20wanted to call, not because I wanted to revisit that, but
- 1:44:27right. No, I really, I really wanted to
- 1:44:31call and ask a question. Outside of the the potential for
- 1:44:39Rich to take over or maybe secede.
- 1:44:43There was a lot of chatter before about Chaffee potentially
- 1:44:48being involved. Yeah.
- 1:44:50And now all of the sudden, we're not hearing that name.
- 1:44:53And I just wanted your thoughts on what might happen if he was
- 1:44:59back in the mix. I think Rich still leaves.
- 1:45:05Because Malik is still ultimately in charge.
- 1:45:08The thing with Chaffee was Chaffee was going to be the CEO
- 1:45:10of Malik bought CrossFit, correct guys.
- 1:45:14So like the Malik is the key is the key guy here.
- 1:45:17Chaffee would be Ceoi don't think very many people have a
- 1:45:20problem with Chaffee at all. But Malik is the thing so.
- 1:45:26Also, so with Rich still leaving, my main point with him
- 1:45:31being the the United States, I posted a a risk game board last
- 1:45:38week or the week before. the United States is the only place
- 1:45:44in that board that matters because we have so many of the
- 1:45:46affiliates. If Rich leaves, he controls
- 1:45:49most, he controls a considerable portion of that board, in which
- 1:45:53case they have to start playing ball with him immediately.
- 1:45:56I don't think much changes if Chafee is Ceoi also don't know
- 1:46:01why that whole thing has gone quiet other than maybe Chafee
- 1:46:06has gotten wind that everything is not sunshine and rainbows or
- 1:46:11they're freaking out about what to do.
- 1:46:16Yeah, I thought it was really, really telling.
- 1:46:20Rich was diplomatic in his answer to Sevon that you know,
- 1:46:25sometimes your values just don't align with someone else's vision
- 1:46:29and. Gosh, that's that's a, that's a.
- 1:46:33Bummer for us. So I'm we're with you.
- 1:46:38Also, I I should say thank you, Lucy Campbell.
- 1:46:42Chafee. It's Chafee.
- 1:46:44Chafee or Chafee? Lucy, Which one?
- 1:46:46Go ahead and type it out, Chafee.
- 1:46:51He's British, so I, I don't know, but good question.
- 1:46:55I I had forgotten about Chafee. That's a way to bring.
- 1:47:00That yeah, hey, no problem. I he I'm a huge fan of his he's
- 1:47:05a great not he's not just a great speaker.
- 1:47:08He literally puts his money where his mouth is.
- 1:47:10He is as invested in affiliate development and business
- 1:47:13development, in education for coaches and he's like the
- 1:47:21European Rich Froning, if that's a fair comparison.
- 1:47:26And so I do wonder if there was a secession from domestic
- 1:47:30affiliates that would follow Rich, if there would be a
- 1:47:32European conglomerate that would go with him.
- 1:47:35Good word. Use secession, are you?
- 1:47:40The right well, thank. You gone with him.
- 1:47:43Thank you, Meredith. I appreciate the.
- 1:47:45Call. Thanks for the call guys.
- 1:47:46Have a great. Bye, bye.
- 1:47:49Thank you, Meredith. There we go.
- 1:47:51Don't call again to that. OK, I'm.
- 1:47:53Just kidding, it is. It is Chaffee.
- 1:47:57Chaffee. Not Chaffee.
- 1:48:00Chaffee. Chaffee.
- 1:48:02Chaffee. Chaffee.
- 1:48:05Thank you, Lucy Campbell. Daniel, Daniel Chaffee.
- 1:48:12Chaffee, Thanks, Lucky. That's good.
- 1:48:16One more call. One more call, then we'll talk
- 1:48:18about the between two boxes. Anything you want.
- 1:48:22Between two boxes? No, no, like I'm pretty sure.
- 1:48:33That is amazing. Oh.
- 1:48:40Man not like the Lake Chafe. Yeah.
- 1:48:45What about the in the box girls? Box Girls.
- 1:48:48Can you scroll up on their chats man?
- 1:48:51Let's see. What are you guys in there too,
- 1:48:55you freaking losers? Jeff.
- 1:48:57What are you doing, John? I don't know if they pulled it
- 1:49:02up like I did that a little bit ago.
- 1:49:07They So we went back at them last week and then they went
- 1:49:13back at us not. What?
- 1:49:15I don't think they pulled it up. It's it's before that.
- 1:49:23Barry. No, no.
- 1:49:27OK, let it play from there. No, I'm going through all the
- 1:49:30the comments down there. They never, they never pulled it
- 1:49:32up. OK, OK.
- 1:49:35So we we got on them last week and then not a day later they
- 1:49:38came back after us and their take was crazy.
- 1:49:44Was that the real they posted? No, their their whole episode.
- 1:49:51What was the craziest part to me?
- 1:49:54So John Caitlin says we're from the Midwest.
- 1:49:58Caitlin. Yeah.
- 1:50:00Kate. Caitlin who?
- 1:50:02Destroyer here. Oh, Lawrence.
- 1:50:05Lawrence, Kate Lawrence. I I don't know if it's Caitlin.
- 1:50:08I think it's Kate. Number one, they, it was funny
- 1:50:11because it was like they want us to be inclusive and all this
- 1:50:14stuff. And then they said, well, I
- 1:50:15think these guys are from the Midwest so they wouldn't
- 1:50:17understand. And I couldn't help but think
- 1:50:19how exclusive that was. And assuming we're both from the
- 1:50:25Midwest, which we're not, I don't know what Missouri is.
- 1:50:28It's it's own freaking I. Would say Missouri is pretty
- 1:50:31Midwest. But John's lived in Florida.
- 1:50:34I've lived in a bunch of places, right?
- 1:50:37And then I I'm from Kentucky, which you're.
- 1:50:40Like an Appalachian. I'm an.
- 1:50:41Appalachian you're you're a hillbilly world.
- 1:50:43But then I've also lived in Alabama, I've lived in Virginia,
- 1:50:46I've lived, I'm in Pennsylvania now.
- 1:50:47I've lived in Texas, I've lived in New York.
- 1:50:50For you to make that assumption was so wildly against the thing
- 1:50:55that you were hating us of for we.
- 1:50:58Felt very excluded honestly. And what was crazy was we never
- 1:51:01attacked them personally. It was, I would say it was
- 1:51:06creative feedback. We were giving them feedback on
- 1:51:08their takes and they went after us as people.
- 1:51:11They also said we are just white guys.
- 1:51:13I would say Mesa went after us as people.
- 1:51:18I don't think Kate did. I'm fine with them saying that
- 1:51:21we're white guys, but then I'm not OK with them saying we're
- 1:51:25white guys. So we don't understand, as if
- 1:51:29that is not as equally racist as anything that we never said that
- 1:51:34they thought we said. It it's very, it was very well,
- 1:51:39you are a white man, so you don't understand anything about
- 1:51:43anybody. And if you want to, I, I don't
- 1:51:46play the race. Like I'm not offended by racism.
- 1:51:49If it comes my way, I don't care.
- 1:51:51But if you're going to play that game, if you're going to play
- 1:51:54that game, I'm going to call your ass on it when you do it.
- 1:51:58So don't call me a white dude and then bitch about racism all
- 1:52:01at the same time, thank you very much.
- 1:52:05I would pull up the clip, but I have no idea where it is.
- 1:52:07I didn't see it. Yeah, it's OK.
- 1:52:09All over that show. Hey, I, I agree.
- 1:52:13I agree with you, Tyler, But I don't take any offense to it.
- 1:52:16I think I think they see it as we were coming after them a
- 1:52:20little bit and then that was their response.
- 1:52:22It was just kind of feedback on our part.
- 1:52:25But I don't think I don't think it was bad.
- 1:52:27Should we spam the comments to end the show?
- 1:52:30100% we should do that. Just say white guy.
- 1:52:33Say white crackers, Crackers. No, no, let's think about it for
- 1:52:37a minute. Let's not just.
- 1:52:38What do you think, John? What do you think?
- 1:52:42What's the opposite of feminism? Peace Corps sucks.
- 1:52:50Do you think they would get the Taco emoji?
- 1:52:53You mean they would get? That wait tacos played out.
- 1:52:55We got to keep that one for Grid.
- 1:52:56OK, OK, that's your grid. That's your grid.
- 1:52:59Well, what's something that we say on the show sometimes that
- 1:53:01that is just unique to the show? Unburdened.
- 1:53:06We're not going to behave unburdened.
- 1:53:08Unburdened. Oh, I like unburdened.
- 1:53:11Unburdened. Unburdened.
- 1:53:13That is the word. Unburdened the word.
- 1:53:16All right, all right, guys to the chat.
- 1:53:18It's on the Be Friendly Fitness YouTube channel.
- 1:53:23We gotta throw some Unburdened. No, you gotta wait.
- 1:53:25Don't say it first, man. Don't type it.
- 1:53:26Like wait till you see some stuff unburdened.
- 1:53:29It's in the box office. It's on Brian Friends thing.
- 1:53:33It's gonna be the most comments he's ever had in a show.
- 1:53:35I don't know if I can comment. Come on, I gotta see some
- 1:53:40unburdened. Come on guys. 427 people
- 1:53:44watching. They've got 23.
- 1:53:46Let's. Yeah, you're such a freaking
- 1:53:49Pansy. Wait.
- 1:53:50Pulled. Up their last one, not their
- 1:53:52last. One unburdened from what has
- 1:53:54been. Just unburdened.
- 1:53:56You want to do the. Unburdened.
- 1:53:57Yeah, unburdened. There, there they go.
- 1:53:59Here they go, There they go. There you go, Magnus.
- 1:54:04Good dude. Thank you, Summer.
- 1:54:06Do it, Judy. Do it.
- 1:54:07Judy. Judy and Judy.
- 1:54:11Are you a team player? Judy, Are you a part of us?
- 1:54:15Judy, I better see your name. We are not logging off until I
- 1:54:19see Judy Reed's comment in their thing.
- 1:54:21Come on, girl. Come on.
- 1:54:23I met you at the games. You're a lovely lady.
- 1:54:26You need a comment on Burden. I don't want to comment.
- 1:54:31Come on, unburdened. Wrong chat.
- 1:54:34Wanna wrong chat? I appreciate the effort.
- 1:54:37Wanna. There it is.
- 1:54:39There it is. Thank you, Judy.
- 1:54:41You are a queen. You are a queen.
- 1:54:44Very cool. I know somebody.
- 1:54:47I think Kate. I think Kate's the one that
- 1:54:48watches it on Spotify, so I should catch that tomorrow.
- 1:54:53Because their guest is probably trying to.
- 1:54:56You know, focus. Trying to, I mean, I think is
- 1:54:58it, is he a sponsor? We're ruining his posture for
- 1:55:03them. I do feel bad about that.
- 1:55:06It's the endurance. Guy, is that the Jason St.
- 1:55:09Clair dude? Abby, where you at?
- 1:55:11You need to be commenting right now.
- 1:55:12That's. Right be.
- 1:55:14Unburdened. Hey, how about you put Abby
- 1:55:17Grace to bed? Don't tell me I'm in my office.
- 1:55:21This is my sanctity, OK? Sanctity.
- 1:55:26You leave me alone, OK, when I leave the office, then we're
- 1:55:30husband and wife when I'm in the office.
- 1:55:34You are not. You're senior analyst.
- 1:55:36You're senior analyst. You are my density.
- 1:55:40Yeah. I'm sorry.
- 1:55:41I'm sorry, baby. Well, there it is.
- 1:55:44I think we got we got most of the There it is.
- 1:55:47All those unburdened. Wow.
- 1:55:49Unburdened. They're they're increasing.
- 1:55:53Yeah, a little. There's an in burdened.
- 1:55:55In burdened, reburdened. I think Mesa just saw the chat.
- 1:56:00I what did what did I just say? I don't know what word I was.
- 1:56:03Looking at Caitlin is definitely.
- 1:56:05Not sanctity like sanctuary. Sanctuary.
- 1:56:07Sanctuary. That's what I was looking for.
- 1:56:09I I knew what came out of my mouth was not we.
- 1:56:13Were just going to go with it, no word.
- 1:56:15You were on a roll. I was got.
- 1:56:16The right word. We were going to go with it.
- 1:56:19This is my sanctity. Judy's unburdened there.
- 1:56:26You go, we're going to sign off on it.
- 1:56:28I. Think we're going to sign off.
- 1:56:30Judy Reid, thank you very much. I appreciate all your
- 1:56:34dedication. Thank you, Judy.
- 1:56:35We appreciate you. She removed the comment as soon
- 1:56:37as we saw it. I'm just kidding.
- 1:56:39You better not have Judy. I'm going to go check.
- 1:56:41I'm going to go check at the end of.
- 1:56:44The show. All right guys, thanks for
- 1:56:46watching. Go check out the box girls if
- 1:56:48you feel like it. Otherwise, we'll see you guys
- 1:56:50next week. I apologize to absolutely
- 1:56:55nobody.