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- Lucas: If these marketing conversations have sparked something you have actually used in your own workflows, stick around to the end — we will loop back to why listener support keeps this show completely ad-free. But first, let us talk about a life event that marketing automation is systematically bad at catching: buying a home. Luna: That feels like a big one. People move, their spending shifts, their inbox habits change — and most triggered flows just sit there with an old address and an old profile. Lucas: Exactly. A 2025 Zillow survey found that 87 percent of recent homebuyers changed their primary email address within ninety days of closing. Forty-three percent moved to a completely new geographic market. Luna: Wait, 87 percent changed their email? That seems high. I would have guessed maybe half. Lucas: It surprised me too. But think about it — you consolidate email after moving, you set up a new address for the mortgage paperwork, the old one becomes a spam trap. The point is, if your automation platform is still sending to the address someone used when they first downloaded a whitepaper two years ago, you are essentially mailing an empty house. Luna: And the geographic shift matters too. Someone who moves from New York to Austin is not going to respond to a 'visit our local store' email for a location that is now three states away. Lucas: Right. Most marketing automation platforms — HubSpot, Marketo, the usual suspects — rely on explicit field changes. A contact updates their address in a form, or a CRM sync fires an event. But home buying is rarely captured that way because the buyer does not fill out your form on moving day. They are busy signing documents and packing boxes. Luna: So the trigger never fires. Then the person gets a 'happy birthday' email with a coupon for a store that is no longer convenient, and they unsubscribe. Lucas: That is exactly the scenario a RE/MAX franchise in Denver tried to fix last year. They noticed their abandoned cart flow for first-time buyer webinars had a 62 percent drop-off rate at the checkout step — but the people who completed were almost all still in the Denver metro. The ones who dropped? They had recently moved to the area from out of state. The workflow was sending them a reminder to attend a local open house, but they had not yet settled on a neighborhood. Luna: So the timing was wrong. They were interested in buying a home, but not ready for a specific location yet. Lucas: Right. The franchise built a separate branch: if the lead's IP geolocation changed in the last thirty days and they had clicked on a first-time buyer guide, the workflow paused the local-event emails and instead sent a weekly 'neighborhood breakdown' series. Conversion on that segment went from four percent to nineteen percent over three months. Luna: That is a decent lift. But it relies on IP geolocation, which is not exactly a standard field in most CRM setups. Lucas: It is not. And that is the problem. Platforms like HubSpot can capture IP on form submissions, but they do not automatically trigger a workflow when the IP changes. You have to build a custom property and a recurring list check. Most teams do not think to do that. Luna: What about a more direct signal — like someone updating their billing address on a subscription? Lucas: That is a stronger trigger, but it still misses a lot. SoFi, the fintech company, actually does this well. When a customer closes a mortgage through SoFi, the system flags a 'homeowner' attribute. Then it pauses all credit-card and personal-loan offers for sixty days and switches to home-equity content and insurance tips. SoFi reported a thirty-three percent higher email engagement rate in that segment, compared to customers who received generic cross-sell messages. Luna: But that only works if you originate the mortgage. Most marketers do not have that data. Lucas: Exactly. For everyone else, you have to infer it. Browser cookies, pixel data, third-party data sources — though those are getting scarcer. Or you can just ask. A simple 'did you recently move?' email with a one-click update can capture a lot. But it has to be timed right. Luna: When is the right time? Immediately after closing? Lucas: Not immediately. People are overwhelmed. A Zillow survey showed that 72 percent of buyers felt stressed about their finances in the first month after closing. So if you send a 'congratulations on your new home' email with a promotional offer, it can feel tone-deaf. Better to wait at least two weeks, then send a non-promotional 'welcome to the neighborhood' resource guide. Then after thirty days, start introducing relevant services. Luna: That makes sense. But most automated journeys are built to strike while the iron is hot — get the offer out within twenty-four hours. Lucas: And that works for a lot of triggers. A cart abandon, a webinar registration — yes, you want speed. But a life event like buying a home is different. The customer's context has fundamentally changed. Their budget, their time availability, their local preferences. You need to reset frequency caps, maybe even suppress all commercial messaging for a period. Luna: So the fix is not a new tool. It is a design principle: treat life events as customer resets, not just opportunity triggers. Lucas: That is exactly right. And if you are running HubSpot or Marketo, you can build this today. Create a custom property called 'life event date' and a dropdown for event type. Then build a workflow that checks that property on a schedule. It is not hard — it just requires thinking beyond the obvious triggers. Luna: I want to come back to something you said earlier about supporting the show. Because we deliberately do not run ads on these episodes. And that choice matters — it means we do not have to frame these insights around a sponsor's product. Lucas: Yeah, and listeners have told us that is valuable. If you have gotten practical use out of episodes like this — maybe you have built a workflow or changed a strategy — and you want to help keep it ad-free, the link is buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. No pressure, just an option. Luna: It is a small way to make sure we keep digging into these specific, overlooked corners of marketing automation. Lucas: Exactly. So back to home buying — there is one more layer I want to touch on. The mortgage itself changes spending patterns. The National Association of Realtors found that new homeowners spend an average of nine thousand dollars on home-related purchases in the first six months. That is furniture, appliances, lawn equipment, tools. Luna: So if you are a home goods retailer and you miss that trigger, you are leaving money on the table. Lucas: Massive. But again, you have to catch it early. Wayfair has a pixel that tracks visits to moving-related pages — like 'moving boxes' or 'storage bins' — and then fires a 'new home' segment. They claim a twenty-five percent higher conversion rate on that segment compared to general site visitors. Luna: That is a good example of using behavioral signals instead of explicit data. Lucas: Right. And it does not require a mortgage origination system. Just a smartly configured pixel and a workflow that says: if someone visits three or more home-related categories in a week and has not purchased from us in six months, tag them as 'potential mover' and send a non-promotional guide on, say, 'how to measure your space for new furniture' — with a soft call to action. Luna: That feels respectful. You are helping, not selling. Lucas: And that is the core of it. The best marketing automation does not just send more emails — it sends the right email at the right moment, and sometimes the right move is to send nothing at all. Home buying is a perfect case study in that discipline. Luna: Alright, so if you are auditing your own workflows today, look for any that rely on an address field that might be stale. And consider adding a 'life event' property if you have not already. Lucas: And if you have a great example of catching a home buyer trigger the right way, we would love to hear about it. That is all for this episode of Marketing Automation with Fexingo.