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Hormones, Health, and the Future of Wellness with Jay Campbell · Hardiness with Dr Paul Taylor

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  Speaker 1: Jay Combo, Welcome to the podcast, all the way from Florida.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, baby Tampa, Florida, where it's sunny and hot
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  Speaker 2: and muggy, and I'm heading to Mexico tomorrow. Unfortunately, there's
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  Speaker 2: an ecological disaster in Mexico right now because the Sargasso
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  Speaker 2: where I'm heading in Mexico in the Yucatan is flooding
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  Speaker 2: the coastline. So it's literally a disaster for me and
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  Speaker 2: my wife and my two daughters. We're having to figure
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  Speaker 2: out like where we're.
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  Speaker 3: Going to go.
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  Speaker 2: But so honored to be here today. Brother, I'm grateful
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  Speaker 2: and definitely humble and privileged to be here with you.
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  Speaker 4: You've had a shocker on trips lately, because just tell
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  Speaker 4: our list there's what we were talking about a second ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did very crazily. It was actually my first
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  Speaker 2: time in New Zealand and first time in Australia. Well
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  Speaker 2: that's not true. I flew into Sydney in my twenties,
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  Speaker 2: but it was like layover, but first time on the
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  Speaker 2: ground walking around. And I was supposed to speak in
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  Speaker 2: a big bio hacking conference, in fact, the biggest biohacking
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  Speaker 2: conference supposedly ever that put we put on in Australia
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  Speaker 2: and it was put on by a person from the
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  Speaker 2: Estates and the cyclone once every seventy year cyclone came
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  Speaker 2: that it was actually the weekend before, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: because the hotels put the gun to your head and
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  Speaker 2: they ask to cancel, so they had to end up canceling.
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  Speaker 2: So I missed that and where I was staying in
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  Speaker 2: the Gold Coast got flooded out from the cyclone. So
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  Speaker 2: obviously it wasn't the best of circumstances. And now, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm planning a vacation to Mexico and they're being hit
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  Speaker 2: by horrific sergasso. That's like flooding the coastlines and it
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  Speaker 2: smells nasty because rotting seaweed is not pleasant.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me what's what's what you say?
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard of. So Sargasso is basically a Latin
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  Speaker 2: name for seaweed and it comes from the Sargasso Sea.
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  Speaker 2: But it's basically like overgrown alga and then it sits
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  Speaker 2: and festers and becomes you know, really rotten. And obviously
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  Speaker 2: once it washes up on the shoreline, it's very heavy.
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  Speaker 2: It's very difficult to deal with and disperse and obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know, throw away. So it's like Mexico is like
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  Speaker 2: using the Mexican Navy. They're mobilizing the Mexican Navy to
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  Speaker 2: work on it because it's a disaster. I mean, because
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  Speaker 2: obviously Mexico's entire country is based on tourism, and when
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  Speaker 2: all their beaches are full of brown, rotting seaweed, you know,
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  Speaker 2: nobody's nobody's heading to. I mean, we were staying at
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  Speaker 2: the Grand high End. I mean, I have a ten
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  Speaker 2: day stay there. It's one of my favorite places in
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  Speaker 2: the world. It's one of the most beautiful beaches in
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  Speaker 2: the world, and it literally is not habitable. Like it is.
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  Speaker 2: It smells so bad that you can't even walk down
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  Speaker 2: to the beach without like getting overrun with a stench
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  Speaker 2: of like sulfur or rotten eggs. It's nasty.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that is a shocker.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, let's let's get on with a podcast to talk
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  Speaker 4: about things that are a little bit lighter than that.
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  Speaker 4: So you are, you're a Man's physic Champion, you're a
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  Speaker 4: five times best selling author, and you're co founder of
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  Speaker 4: Biolungevity Labs. So just just take on listeners through a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of highlights of your career and why you
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  Speaker 4: finded Biolungungevity Labs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, so basically, I'm fifty four years old,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a dad, husband, obviously, e commerce entrepreneur, influencer, if
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  Speaker 2: that's what you want to call me. I like to
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  Speaker 2: tell people that I'm an online gypsy in my accountant's
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  Speaker 2: work nightmare. I tell people this. Most people don't understand this.
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  Speaker 2: Why I tell them the truth. I've been using peptids
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  Speaker 2: since two thousand and four, for twenty one years, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean most people didn't even know what peptides were
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  Speaker 2: until like the late, you know, twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen
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  Speaker 2: in the clinical community. But I've been using them since
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and four. And at the same time that
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  Speaker 2: I was quote unquote biohacking or self experimenting on myself
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  Speaker 2: with therapeutic testosterone with various delivery systems, I also started
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  Speaker 2: using peptides. And you know, it was during all of
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  Speaker 2: this formative time of me studying. And remember this is
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  Speaker 2: in the infancy of the internet, so you had to really,
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  Speaker 2: like really search to find stuff. There were a couple
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  Speaker 2: of books on therapeutic cormones Nelson, who was a very
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  Speaker 2: great mentor of mine. When I first published my first
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  Speaker 2: book in twenty fifteen. His book was called Testoster and
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  Speaker 2: a Man's Guide, and then there was another one called
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  Speaker 2: Built to Survive by him and Michael Mooney. And Michael
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  Speaker 2: Mooney was a physician that worked on men that were
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  Speaker 2: that were diagnosed with HIV. And at that time, in
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  Speaker 2: the mid two thousands, you know, HIV diagnosis was a
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  Speaker 2: death sentence. So most of the guys that were like
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  Speaker 2: experimenting with hormones and using growth hormone into different things,
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  Speaker 2: We're doing it to stay alive, because at that point
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  Speaker 2: in time, it was a death sentence. So very very
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  Speaker 2: interesting time. And technically, like I said, thirteen years later,
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  Speaker 2: people would see me and you know I was I
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  Speaker 2: did not was not an entrepreneur. I was doing none
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  Speaker 2: of the things I'm doing now. But I was working
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  Speaker 2: in the digital marketing automotive in the automotive industry and
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  Speaker 2: digital marketing. People that would see me were they marveled
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  Speaker 2: at by physique because I had an amazing physique. They
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  Speaker 2: would always ask me, They're like, wow, how do you
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  Speaker 2: look like you do? And I said, I use therapeutic testosterone,
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  Speaker 2: and that would either be you know, met with like
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, you're on stereo, or smarter or sophisticated
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  Speaker 2: people would be like, wow, fascinating, tell me more.
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  Speaker 1: Can I just jump in jet just on this.
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  Speaker 4: Just to clarify the legal status of therapeutic testosterone and
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  Speaker 4: peptides in the States. And the reason because a lot
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  Speaker 4: of listeners here when you say, when they hear the
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  Speaker 4: word peptides, I'll tell you what pops into their mind
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  Speaker 4: was about nearly ten years ago there was a big
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  Speaker 4: scandal with one of the football teams, Australian league football
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  Speaker 4: teams over here called Essendon, and it turns out they
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  Speaker 4: were all being injected with stuff that they didn't know
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  Speaker 4: what it was. And after a three year investigation, they
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  Speaker 4: found out that it was a peptide that was a
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  Speaker 4: performance enhancing peptide that wasn't legal at.
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  Speaker 2: The time, the performance enhancers by the way.
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  Speaker 4: Yes right, yeah, but anyway, these thirty four players got banned.
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  Speaker 1: There was all sorts of drama.
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  Speaker 2: Australia bro, yes, so bar Bro, what in the hell?
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  Speaker 2: And just to carry on the story, I eventually wrote
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  Speaker 2: a book because the smart people encouraged me to write
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  Speaker 2: a book. And when I did it, I was working
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  Speaker 2: with my current wife, Monica in real estate, and I
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  Speaker 2: basically left the digital automotive marketing world and was helping
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  Speaker 2: her because she was a successful residential real estate saleswoman
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  Speaker 2: in southern California and she her I started dating on
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  Speaker 2: match dot Com after I came out of my divorce.
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  Speaker 2: She was coming out of divorce. This is in twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 2: and we started doing really really well together and so
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  Speaker 2: the people that you know, convinced me to write a
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  Speaker 2: book on testosterone. Initially, I was fearful because I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a licensed medical professional. I don't have any kind of formal,
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  Speaker 2: you know, education. I do have a minor in molecular
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  Speaker 2: biology in college because I was a nerd and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So I understood this stuff from a chemical perspective better
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  Speaker 2: than most probably better than almost everyone, But I didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a formal medical training or license. So to write
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  Speaker 2: a book on therapeutic hormones in twenty fourteen, when I
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  Speaker 2: started looking into this, it was kind of it was
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  Speaker 2: there was a little bit of trepidation on my part,
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  Speaker 2: and it was obviously the basis of the first book
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  Speaker 2: that I wrote that became the number one selling book
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  Speaker 2: of all time on therapeutic testosterone. I've spoken it obviously
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  Speaker 2: conferences around the world, and I've just now, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with whatever has happened in the last four years since COVID,
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  Speaker 2: you know, become a social media influencer. I have a
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  Speaker 2: very powerful website. My website jacampbell dot com is like
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  Speaker 2: a top three somewhere between top three and top four
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  Speaker 2: depending on who you believe, for peptide and hormone related information.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we have over one hundred articles that are
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  Speaker 2: rank top five on Google. So you know, there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people that come to my website to get
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  Speaker 2: information about peptides. But you know, I really my claim
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  Speaker 2: to fame really was obviously in therapeutic hormones. And then
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  Speaker 2: in the last like again four or five years, I've
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  Speaker 2: written or I should say, last six or seven years,
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  Speaker 2: I've written books on fasting. And then I wrote the
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  Speaker 2: book on peptides in twenty twenty three that also exploded
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  Speaker 2: into the world, and very very very truthfully, Paul, the
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  Speaker 2: reason that book exploded was it was right after the
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  Speaker 2: vaccine debacle and people were looking for alternative fur and healing,
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  Speaker 2: and the book went out on Amazon in February of
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  Speaker 2: twenty three and exploded. I mean it exploded into mainstream consciousness.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was on so many podcasts that year. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I did have a company that I sold in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty two that was also a peptide based hairy growth
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  Speaker 2: and facial rejuvenation company that also did very well, I
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  Speaker 2: should say modestly modestly well, but I was on you know,
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  Speaker 2: all the big name podcasts, and so I did make
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  Speaker 2: a name for myself teaching people like how to regrow
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  Speaker 2: their hair using peptide based products and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: And then fast forward to here. Biolongevity Labs was founded
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  Speaker 2: in November, well actually October of last year, and we
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  Speaker 2: launched globally with pr and all that stuff at a
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  Speaker 2: four M in Las Vegas in December, and it's just
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  Speaker 2: been a zero to hero story. I mean, the you know,
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  Speaker 2: right place, right time. I mean, obviously, we have my
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  Speaker 2: brand is really associated with peptides, so that really helped it.
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  Speaker 2: And then I have my co founder, Hunter Williams, who
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  Speaker 2: also has a very big personal brand on peptides, and
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  Speaker 2: so we've just really just exploded. And you know, thing
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  Speaker 2: is just we've honestly been in the right place the
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  Speaker 2: right time. Obviously, you know RFK Junior coming in to
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  Speaker 2: the presidency talking about peptides, talking about alternative forms of medicine,
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  Speaker 2: alternative forms of healing, and so we've really just taken
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  Speaker 2: advantage of that. And you know now here I am,
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  Speaker 2: I'm you know, being asked to speak on the main
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  Speaker 2: stage at like almost every major biohacking conference and you
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  Speaker 2: know call health Optimizations somewhere out there.
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  Speaker 4: So tell us what is this status just for for
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  Speaker 4: the Australians over here and the Americans who are listening,
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  Speaker 4: and the Brits who may have not taken peptides yet, right,
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  Speaker 4: what what is the legal status in America? Can anybody
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  Speaker 4: just buy peptides online? So I'll tell you what can
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  Speaker 4: happen in Australia. You can buy peptides and her brackets
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  Speaker 4: for therapeutic use. No, it's it's legal to buy them
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  Speaker 4: in Australia. Sorry, for research use, not therapeutic use. For
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  Speaker 4: research use, right, yes, and no. When it comes to
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  Speaker 4: and synthetic hormones, yes, you will have longevity doctors prescribing
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  Speaker 4: testosterone and all of these things for people where there's
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  Speaker 4: a medical need. But an individual can't purchase legally peptides
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  Speaker 4: or a doctor cannot prescribe peptides here unless there is
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  Speaker 4: a medical use case. For instance, somebody has stunted growth,
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  Speaker 4: they can have some of the growth hormone precursors are
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  Speaker 4: growth hormone itself. So what's this status in the United States?
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  Speaker 4: And do you know about other countries such as UK
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  Speaker 4: and places like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean there's really not much difference, Paul.
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  Speaker 2: Like in my company is a research chemical company. I
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  Speaker 2: mean we sell bioregulators and small molecules that are perfectly legal.
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  Speaker 2: They're found on Amazon, They're considered supplements by regulatory associations
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  Speaker 2: and committees even for a performance and antidoping and all
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  Speaker 2: that stuff. But it's the same thing. It's just in
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  Speaker 2: the United States there's just the FDA. The medical establishment
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  Speaker 2: doesn't really have a purview in the research space. Happening
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  Speaker 2: is you know, if as long as you understand how
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  Speaker 2: to word, you know, your products and say for research
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  Speaker 2: purposes only, and then don't do anything other than, you know,
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  Speaker 2: beyond that, which I won't mention on this podcast because
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to get anybody in trouble. But it's
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  Speaker 2: totally legal for somebody, whether it's a person or they
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  Speaker 2: weren't doing it for their animal or their labrat or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: to research on themselves. They have that fundamental right obviously
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  Speaker 2: in medicine from an FDA approval standpoint, if you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: if a doctor is going to write a script on
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  Speaker 2: a peptide, they have to do it off label. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's if you talk to my attorney, my regulatory attorney
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  Speaker 2: for my company, he will literally say to you, the
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  Speaker 2: peptide space is as clear as mud. Okay, right, Like
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of where it's at. But research chemical companies
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  Speaker 2: have been around for thirty years. The ability, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I was using peptids in two thousand and four, the
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  Speaker 2: ability to purchase again for research use is very prevalent.
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  Speaker 2: And all you know worldwide there are research coming companies everywhere,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I'm pretty much every continent. It's just
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  Speaker 2: some countries like Australia. You know, some countries in the EU,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have to mention them. You know, are very
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  Speaker 2: like strident and against the use of these, which is
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  Speaker 2: really a joke. I mean, the FDA did classify in
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  Speaker 2: the United States in twenty twenty three twenty seven or
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  Speaker 2: twenty six I think is I think it was twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven of like the world's most known and used and
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  Speaker 2: experienced peptides as Class two, which was a big joke
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  Speaker 2: because it was like basically sent potentially harmful and not
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  Speaker 2: enough information on them, and everybody in the clinical space
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  Speaker 2: it was already prescribing peptides was like, this is a
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  Speaker 2: joke because they already know that these things are not harmful.
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  Speaker 2: They're organic signaling molecules. You know, the length of the
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  Speaker 2: chain depends on whether you have to inject it or
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  Speaker 2: take it orally. You know, the longer the chain, the
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  Speaker 2: more you have to inject it across the blood brain
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  Speaker 2: bearer and get into portal circulation, whereas the shorter the
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  Speaker 2: chain can be consumed orally. But I mean, the risk
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  Speaker 2: is so minimal. I've never known anybody that's gotten sick
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  Speaker 2: or odd or hurt themselves from injecting peptides. And I've
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  Speaker 2: known people that have overdosed because they don't know what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing. It's just the risk is minimal. But again,
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  Speaker 2: from a big picture standpoint, peptides are a fundamental threat
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  Speaker 2: to the sick care allopathic medical industry because sick care
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  Speaker 2: wants people to have their symptoms treated. They don't want
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  Speaker 2: to attack or heal, you know. Like I like to
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  Speaker 2: say that peptides are the crypto of healthcare because they're holy,
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  Speaker 2: they're wholly decentralized, and they treat the fundamental root cause,
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  Speaker 2: just as crypto treats the fundamental root cause of you know,
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  Speaker 2: usery and fake money. I mean, you know it's not
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  Speaker 2: fake money. I mean you still don't know. People will
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  Speaker 2: be like, well, I don't know where it is, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to make this show about
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  Speaker 2: talking about decentralized currency. But the reality is that peptides
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  Speaker 2: do treat the fundamental root cause of illness, disease, or
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  Speaker 2: just regulation. And once a person, as I like to say,
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  Speaker 2: becomes sovereign, empowered and free, they can do it themselves
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  Speaker 2: without having to rely on a doctor or any person
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  Speaker 2: an allopathic medicine to basically gatekeep. And so I teach
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  Speaker 2: people how to do this for themselves where they don't
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  Speaker 2: have to rely on a doctor. And honestly, man, like
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  Speaker 2: I have a mentor which I can't tell you. You
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  Speaker 2: probably know who this person is because he's very famous.
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  Speaker 2: He is a doctor. But He told me in twenty
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  Speaker 2: fourteen that if growth hormone agonist peptides met Foreman and
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  Speaker 2: what was the other thing, Oh, in testosterone we're available
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  Speaker 2: over the counter, we wouldn't have hospitals in the world.
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  Speaker 2: And he's probably right because people would be educated on
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  Speaker 2: how to do these things to prevent aging, or I
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't say prevent because we're all aging, but to slow aging,
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  Speaker 2: to regress aging, you know what I mean, to live
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  Speaker 2: in a way that is avoiding the sick care medicals.
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  Speaker 4: So if you take a step back, Jay, sure, let's
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  Speaker 4: talk about what peptides actually are and how they actually
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  Speaker 4: function in the body.
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  Speaker 1: So that's just the same that somebody has.
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  Speaker 4: Heard of peptides but doesn't actually know what that means
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  Speaker 4: and how they work in the body.
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  Speaker 1: Give us that high level overview of that.
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  Speaker 2: So basically, very simply to make it as simply as
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  Speaker 2: I can, peptides are fractionated proteins or biomolecules that are
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  Speaker 2: technically found organically in human blood and tissue and lymph
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  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, but they are synthesized in a
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  Speaker 2: lab when people inject them, right, I mean you have
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  Speaker 2: to make them from something, So I mean like almost
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  Speaker 2: all drugs or peptides or bioregulators or even supplements, they
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  Speaker 2: are synthesized. But again because they're biomolecules, are and wholly
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  Speaker 2: organic and literally come from mostly from human tissue, they're safe.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they're not like allopathic what I call petroleum
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  Speaker 2: distill at medications that when they break down in the
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  Speaker 2: in the biological systems, or in the central nervous system
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  Speaker 2: or even in the bloodstream, they leave residue. And that
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  Speaker 2: residue is what causes the side effects from all these
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  Speaker 2: different drugs. And that's why, like most people who are
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  Speaker 2: in their late fifties and early sixties were taking fifteen
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  Speaker 2: to twenty different drugs that they've been prescribed by their doctors,
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  Speaker 2: you know, end up having symptoms and side effects from
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  Speaker 2: the breakdown of the other drugs, and they're taking drugs
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  Speaker 2: to address the side effects of the other drugs. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's a whole cottage industry and it's a mess. But
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  Speaker 2: you're never going to see that with peptides. And so
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  Speaker 2: they can be injected, they can be orally consumed. They
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  Speaker 2: can be inter nasally you know, snorted or inhaled. They
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  Speaker 2: can be transverbally applied to the skin. You know, there's
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  Speaker 2: stuff for the hair that you can you know, use
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  Speaker 2: as a serum and rub into your scalp and it
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  Speaker 2: will regrow hair follicles or strengthen the flick your root.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many applications for peptides, it's incredible.
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  Speaker 4: And chay, is there one method of all of those
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  Speaker 4: that is the most potent delivery method? I would presume
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  Speaker 4: that injecting is the most potent.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Injections are always the highest impact delivery system for
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: two reasons. They get into portal circulation fastest, and they
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: cross the blood brain barrier at the highest impact. Now
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: we and my company have delivered a new delivery system
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: that as is basically, it's the company that's selling it
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: to us in partnership. They're called INSTAMT. They have patented
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: of this, but there are I shouldn't say are. There
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: were previous technology similar to theirs. They just didn't have
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the stabilizing agents that they now have, and that's due
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to the improvement in technology. But basically, we're selling starting
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: probably July third or July fourth, we will be selling
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: a it's basically a strip. I was looking on my
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: desk to see if I had one where I could
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: hold it up and show you too. But basically it's
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: a strip. We call it biostrips, and you can pull
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: it out of the packaging and place it on your
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: ung and instantly then the tongue will go to the
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: roof of the mouth and it will actually absorb through
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: what is called the mucosal membrane of the cheek and gums.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Now previous it's it's a fascinating and very very effective
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: delivery system. But previously anything that was bucle slash oral
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: would have to go through the digestive tract, so you'd
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: have to still absorb it through here and then it
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: goes down into into the small intestine and through the
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: liver and blah blah blah and all of that. For
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the most part, almost all oral drugs and peptides that
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: are made for that have to go through the digestive
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: track or broken up or degraded really fast, and so
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the efficacy is very low, whereas with this one going
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: into here, it's getting into portal circulation or the bloodstream
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: really quickly. And we're doing stability tests right now, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: the company is doing stability tests right now. But like very,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: very truthfully, I think it's going to be somewhere, Paul
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: between sixty five and seventy five percent as efficacious as
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: an injection. Now that sounds like to people that inject
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: their like, well, why would I ever use that?
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: You won't.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: But to the eighty percent of the world who's literally
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: scared shitless to inject a peptide in themselves, they're gonna
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: do that because all you have to do is do
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: the math. Just do two instead of one and you'll
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: get the same effect.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: And what's the effectiveness of the kneasle and delivery mechanism.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Some of the nasals are fine. It really just depends
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: on the size of the molecule of the peptide. Like
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of the neotropic peptides are interrnasal, like slank, Cimax, DIETSA,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: there's a bunch of other ones that most people don't
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: know what they are, but they can be inhaled, you know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: slashed like an internasal mist. As far as like their
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: effectiveness compared to an injectable, again, depending on the peptide,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I think they can be as high as about seventy
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: five to eighty percent, but most of them it's going
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to be less, I should say less equal to the
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: strip or less. And again, people don't like putting up
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: their nose, right, I mean that's just kind of the truth.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's like it's not most efficient, it's not
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: like it doesn't feel the best. So I think if
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: it comes down to it, most people will choose the
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: strip in the mouth before they're going to ever choose
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: to inhale or snort up your nose or inject.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, so let's let's let's now talk about longevity medicine
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: and regenerative medicine. So what would you say if you
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: were to have to rank all of the things that
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: people can take from a longevity perspective, Right, so, for
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: for females, you've gone through menopause HRT, for man, we're
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: talking about replacement testosterone plus day and all the peptides
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: give us. Maybe go through your top five or so
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: that you think are really impactful from a longevity perspective
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: and a biohacking perspective.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean, like it's a tough question for
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: me because I personally, you know, it's my opinion, but
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I mean from what I know, I mean, I've been
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: uninjectable therapeutic testoscerone, and I've changed my every systems for
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: now twenty five years. I started in nineteen ninety nine.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: And Jay, sorry a question on that.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my understanding is if you so you got you
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: got low te as a man, if you go on
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: to replacement testosterone, yes, you pretty much have to be
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: on that for the rest of your life because when
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: you're taking the exogenous stuff, your ability to produce it
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: is just suppressed.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Now, maybe you could have a.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Couple of years get off and get back to someone,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: but this is a when you're on the tree and
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: you're on the train.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And my answer to that is
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: that once you go on the train, you would never
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: want to go off the train. Transformative and life olcard
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and very honestly, depending on where a person lives. I mean,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: obviously Aboriginals don't have the same you know, environmental degradation
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: of the major cities or the most major coastal urban
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: population centers. But dude, if you were in the States,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and I don't know when the last time you were
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: here is, but like this place is an absolute cesspool.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, ye have endercer disrupting chemicals plastics violates, you know, estrogenic.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much biochemical disturbance in the environment
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that almost every man today under the age of twenty
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: five has low tesoscerone. It's a disaster we have. I mean,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: it has never been worse in the United States. And
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: it's also you know, causing the same it causes issues
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: with women. I mean it hyper masculizes women because the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: opposite is happening. So it's it's a really bad situation.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: So to answer your question and get back to the question, like,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I still think that from a longevity standpoint, a microdose
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: of therapeutic testosterone as soon as a man has a
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: clinical need, which is so early nowadays, and it's not
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: true even though it's a myth that testosterone will make
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: you infertile. You have to use other fshe follicle stimulating
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: hormones and lutinizing hormone adjuncts or medicines or supplements to
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: make sure that you maintain modal sperm. But it's very simple.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I mean I was on therapeutic tesosceron for twelve years
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: before I have my two daughters, right, so I never
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: had an issue kids. And you just have to know
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: what to do. So number one, I always say that
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: before a person looks at peptides or anything down that
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: you know, call it growth hormone agonists or growth hormone
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: mediated pathway, you should look into hormones first, because, Paul,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: if you don't have optimized hormones, and the majority of
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: the world does not, in fact they have a deficiency,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: using peptides is like literally putting rubber bullets in your gun.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: You're not going to get the same effect as somebody
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: that has a very powerful indocrine system, immune system, and
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: thyroid function. So hormones first, peptides next. Now to answer
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: your question, if you're going to talk about longevity, peptides,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: there's a lot to choose from.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not just before we jump bat too. Peptides straight,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: So I will say that that he are the I
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: think hormones and hormone replacement therapies for books men and
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: women is much more prevalent in the longevity space. I know, yes,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I know quest a few doctors who will protest and
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: prescribe testosterone creams or injections for.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: People who are low.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: And I also know some blokes you tend to be older,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: who are on replacement testosterone and I've gone, Holy fuck,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: what a game change. But the product I want to
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: highlight to people is that you mentioning the impact on fertility.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: So if you're younger and still wanting to be fertile,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: there's other steps that you have to take.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: What is what I'm hearing from.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: You exactly and again it totally, It totally comes down
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: to what is your purpose? Right, Like most men who
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: are purposeless and have no vision or drive or anything,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: it's because they lack the masculine essence and that is
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: directly responsible in counter and comes from therapeutic testoscerone or
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I should just say a pulse of testoscerone. But so
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: many people don't have it. And again it's not their well.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: They literally are born into an environment that is degraded
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: so bad. I mean, look, this is statistical fact. This
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: is in all my books. The men of the thirties
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and forties and fifties had three times the level of
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: free testoscerone that men walking around the streets today do.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Get away, get away fact, dude.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: There are multiple studies demonstrating this seven continental. There's one
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: called the Hebrew University study, and they did a patient
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: cohort population from nineteen seventy one to nineteen ninety six.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: You can google this on all seven continents there was
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: like forty five thousand men and it showed that sperm
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: is one third and hormone levels free free circulating levels
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: of free testoscerone, which by the way, is the only
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: thing that matters. Total testoscerone is a meaningless number. Ninety
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: five percent of doctors don't even understand that. They don't
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: even understand the difference between free and total testoscerone. Total
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: testosterone is bound testoscerone in the human body. It is
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: completely unusable. The testosterone is bioactive and bioavailable, and it
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: is the amount that is readily available to the body,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: male or female at any point in time in the day.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: So measuring your total testosterone is a meaningless thing because
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: who cares you have to measure your free testosterone? I
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: literally will guarantee you, Paul, that ninety percent of the
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: practicing doctors in Australia don't even know that. Do you
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: realize that the majority of doctors in this world right
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: now who understand how to do this, do you know
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: where they got their information from?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Is that your book?
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Me one hundred percent from both of my books. I mean,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: that's been told to me thousands of times. I mean,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I have so many physicians, younger physicians, thank god, who
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: are really making a change and making a difference, you know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: have learned how to do this. I mean, obviously my
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: books are very very clinically written and have thousands of studies,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: so they're very scientifically based. But to get back to
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: your question about you know, anti aging peptides, there's a
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: lot of really good ones. You always have to start
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: first with a growth hormone aagonist peptide. Right, there's three
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: primary ones, and that's testa morell and IPA morele and,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: and then CJC one two ninety five. And you can
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: actually use those peptides in a blend. CJC and ip
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: are great, IPPA and tesla are great. It really depends,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you know, when people ask me, well, which one should
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I choose, it really depends on what your primary goal is.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Most men are fat, they have too much belly fat.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Clearly you're not. Clearly I'm not. But if you have
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: belly fat, TESTA morell and IPA morele and are great
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: because they're going to reduce the visceral fat body or
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: the adapacity of fat in the center mass better than
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: anything else. So always first focus on what is a
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: growth hormone agonus peptide because as you know, dude, as
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: we get older, growth hormone pulses lower or pancreas you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: our insulin is over secreted, and you know, we just
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: stop producing natural IGF one production. So you want to
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: really look at improving IGF one production as you age.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: So two christions on that Jay, What about semma Ellen?
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Is that in the same bucket as Epra Marellen and
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Tessa mare Ellen and the CJC On paper?
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: On paper, it is, but it's not in practice. And
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: so many doctors use Surmarrellen because there's a lot of
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: scientific studies on it, But honestly, in experiencing using between
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: those three and Cerma, I wouldn't even This is how
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: inefficient and ineffective Surmarillen is. It's not in my book.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I did not put it in my book. It's not
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: good enough. It does not hold up against those others.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Three gh agonist peptides. And look, man, if we're going
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: to talk about growth hormone agonist peptids, we have to
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: talk about growth hormone.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Yes, and and sorry J before you dive into growth hormone,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: just clarify for people what a growth hormone antagonist is.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: So my understanding is it's up the g and it
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: it's stimulate. It's the release of growth chroma. So it's
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: just a cursor exactly.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: You have you have two forms. You have a GHRH,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: which is growth hormone releasing peptide or hormone, and then
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: you have GNRN and that's growth hormone. Shit now I
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: just lost it. My brain just melted down. But anyway,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: you have those those two formats, and both of them
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: if you use them together, and that's why they stack
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: IPPA and CJC together or IPA and TESTA together, you
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: get the best of both worlds. Now, IPA morelean just
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: to speak about IPA morellan doesn doesn't increase cortisol or prolactin.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: So that's the like one peptide, the growth hormone agaonus
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: peptide that in isolation is probably best used by both
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: men and women because there's no side effects, it's not
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: going to disturb your body's natural pituitary function. And again,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: over time you can pulse it like two or three
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: times a day at like two hundred to three hundred micrograms,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: and it will give you a pulse like it was
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: natural human growth hormone. And speaking of human growth hormone,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of information online about growth hormone that
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: is bunk when I look at growth hormone and I
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: look at the science because a lot of people in
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the medical literature or the medical community will say, oh,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: it's it can cause cancer. Raising IGF too high is bad,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah, does bad things to the nad at
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the cell. It can cause mitochondria. I mean, I've heard
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: it all, dude. And when I hear that, I laugh
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: because if you look at the research on growth hormone,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: the research is in dwarfism. So it's in young men
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: and women who have ephesial plate growth issues that close
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: too early. And so what they do these kids so
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: that they're not three foot five and four foot dwarves
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: is they give them massive amounts of human growth hormone,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: you know, when they're young, to get them to go
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: through the growth the premature closing of the physical plates
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: so that they grow through it. And dude, they give
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: these kids, like I always have this when I'm on podcasts.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: They give these kids a full pen of visor, genotrope
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: and growth hormone and they don't have side effects. The
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: side effects that these people show, and again this is
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: all in the demonstrated in the clinical research is from acromalogy,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: which is when the bones overgrow right, so they get
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: like a jar head, you know, military looking, square jawline,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: you know, protruded you know head or whatever. But again,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: if you ask a dwarf would you rather be three
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: foot six or four foot tall versus having you know,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: a pronounced you know, military look and face. I mean
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: they're all going to say I'd prefer to be tall,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: and you know, people don't look at me strange. But
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, they don't have side effects,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: they don't have cancer, they don't have any of that stuff.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: So it's mostly basked. And then I also look to
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the bodybuilding world, right, yeah.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: I was going to ask about the bodybuilding world and
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: bodybuilders who are overagging the putting, shall we say, because
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: you and I will both have seen these bodybuilders who
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: are have got so much muscle on them, right, and
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: they're completely ripped, but their stomach massively protrudes.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, and the reason is that that it it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: You know, their organs grow as well if they're taking
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: super physiologic levels, right, So yes.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: And no, the organs are not growing. The organs are swelling,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: so that will subside when they come down. But yes,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: the question is yes. But again in that culture, they
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: are taking massive amounts of everything. It's polypharmacy. And you're
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: not seeing those guys die of cancer either. So what
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I'm saying is is that the concern about growth hormone,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: and I'll caveat everything in the second is absolutely overblown.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Here's what most people don't know about, Paul, And unfortunately
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I don't hear enough doctors talking about this, and it
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: blows my mind. IGF one naturally declines as we get
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: in as we get older. Let's just say that by
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: four five, and again IGF one is interstitial growth fluid,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: which is obviously, as you know, which is the actual
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: fluid that's produced by the pituitary that increases natural growth
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: hormone production, or what is called indogenous growth hormone. And
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: as we get older, it just stops. And the fatter,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: more inflamed, more insulin resistant you are, the less you're
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: going to be producing at all. People like me and you,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: we probably have a little bit because we're leaner, we're
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: less inflamed, we have low insolar resistance, so our body
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: is probably functioning a little bit better. But in your fifties,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: say let's say start at forty five, and then by
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: your fifties, you no matter what your health is, you
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: don't have much growth hormone. So if you're going to
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: take a peptide, and this is where people get confused,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: what do peptides do? They stimulate the pituitary to release
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: more indogenous growth hormone. But if you don't have any
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: indogenous growth hormone and you take a peptide, how is
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: the peptide going to actually increase growth hormone? It's not.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Now people will debate me and argue and say that's
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: not true. There's this study. In that study, yeah, you know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: maybe a peptide will help a little bit somebody who's
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: not producing as much, but it's sure not going to
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: compete with growth hormone in a clinically precise for somebody
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: in their fifties and sixties and seventies. So I always
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: tell people like, look, man, if you can afford it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: And as you know this, dude, previously, before COVID, growth
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: formone was not affordable. It costs four or five thousand
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: dollars a month of American dollars to just do like
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: a microdes a growth formone. Yes, and so it was
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: like only very elite, very wealthy people. But just so
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: you know, dude, the elites and wealthy have been using
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: growth hormone for fifty years. I mean, this is what
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: they use. And you know, I know this things right,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: like I work with a lot of these people. But
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you can now get
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: growth hormone in a pen again that Pfizer penn that
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I just showed you, which is by far the best
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: growth hormone in the world, genotrope, and for four thousand
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: dollars for a year, for an entire year. So and
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: that's that's taking like one and a half to two
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I use a day for a man, or maybe one
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I use for a woman. And that's for most people.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: That's affordable, especially considering that it used to be. You know,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: and by the way, I should say this in the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: United States right now, if you had a script for
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Tesla Morellan, which is called a grifta, which again is
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: still in the in the HIV community. It's fifty two
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: hundred hours, and that's worse script insurance.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: So tesa ma ellen on a script is more expensive
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: than the.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Growth from an offshore pharmacy anywhere.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: And just just to clarify, excuse me, excuse me, listeners,
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: I've got a horse throat at the but and that
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: amounted you were talking about the one point five to
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: two I use per day.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: That is physiologic levels right back. And it's making the
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: distinction I think for people between the physiologic levels and
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: then the super physiological levels that a lot of bodybuilders
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: will take, whether it's our testosterone or all of the
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: stacks of anabolic steroids that that give these guys heart
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: disease if they're overegging it.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Nailed it, And and look that's what I'm about, right, Like,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I teach people how to use clinically precise dosages to
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: either slightly boost or replicate what they lost do to age. Right,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: So when you do it this way, you can transform
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: your life. You know, you can massively slow and regress aging,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: you can lower your biological age, you can completely reduce
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: inflammatory markers. I mean, there's so many things that you
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: can do. I mean when people say that, you already
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: kind of said it. You know, what are the best
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: drugs for longevity? I mean the three primary there's really four.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: The four primary paths for longevity is endocrine system optimization,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: thyroid optimization, pancreat optimization. Right because the pancrea is I mean,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: we die due to the level of inflammation on our bodies, right,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: because inflammation is what leads to cellular degradation. Cellular degradation
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: creates disease of whatever form it is. So the leaner
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: that when people ask me, like, what's the number one
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: way I can live the longest, I always say be lead.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Statistically proven, the leaner you are, the longer you will live,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: assuming you don't get in a plane, crash, or hit
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: by a car. You know what I'm saying. So like,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: the leaner you are, the longer you will live. So like,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: how do I become lean and how do I maximize
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: my longevity by keeping your body fat as a man
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: between ten and fifteen percent and as a woman somewhere
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: between twenty two and seventeen percent. You know, some women
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: can probably function around fifteen or sixteen, but that's super elite.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Women always have more body fat for evolutionary biological purposes
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: because of obviously they're maternal, they raise children. They have
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: to have that internal fat. You can't even measure it,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: but it's always there. But that's what you do. You
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: keep your body fat between twelve and fifteen percent year round.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: As a man and as a woman, you're somewhere between,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: like I said, seventeen and twenty two, and statistically you
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: will live longer than anyone. And again going back to
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: the pathways that you got to support and optimize as
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: you age, the endocrine system, and you can obviously do
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: that through either natural means or therapeutic testosterone. The pituitary
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: again through growth hormonagnous peptides or growth hormone. And again
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: at my age, I'm fifty four, you know, I prefer
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: a microdose of growth hormone Monday through Friday or Monday
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: through Saturday. That's what I do. I definitely use obviously
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: all sorts of peptides, mitochondria peptides, which we can talk
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: about at some point because I love talking about those,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: but I use that. And then for my thyroid I
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: use desiccated which is poor scene thyroid, because desicated thyroid
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: is T one, T two, T three, and T four,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: which is all four active thyroid hormones. Now in the
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: medical literature they like to give people T three and
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: T four, which are the two drugs, or CytoML or synthroid.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Those are really bad drugs because they don't treat the
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: downstream thyroid hormones T one and T two, and once you,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: like anything, once you when you're only treating a portion
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: and not all of it, you're gonna end up having
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: a lagging indicator or just basically some part of it
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: it declines. So all these men and women that are
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: on T three and T four from these again medication
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: synthroid or sideaml, they usually end up with the damaged thyroid.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Desicated thyro does not disturb in most people natural thyroid.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: So you can take a small dose along with your
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: therapeutic testosterone or your therapeutic hormones. If you're a woman,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: you might be on estradiol and progesterone as well, and
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: that will bump your temperature and your basal meta but
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: look great, just slightly to keep up with a testosterone. Now,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: the last thing to address outside of growth hormone thyroid
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: and testosterone, is insolent sensitivity and by far the best
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: drug in the world and always will be. And this
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: will be proven statistically and scientifically within the next two
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: years when the Tame trial ends. Is met forman now
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: met foreman is also maligned because it's a type two
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: diabetics drug, and the medical industry slash establishment, the medical mafia,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: let's call them, that they teach doctors in one oh
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: one level classes that it causes lactic acidosis and kidney
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: issue use, which is the biggest hunk of bullshit in
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the history of the world. I've written an article so
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: old now I laugh. It's from twenty nineteen. It's ten
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: thousand words. It's published in Harvard, It's published on EEDU.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: It basically goes through all of the benefits of met
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: forman and all of the negatives, the so called negatives
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: of met forman, and what it can do and what
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: it might do. And like I said, it's ten thousand
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: word article. And there's no one on this planet even
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: to this day, that has been able to come to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: me and disprove that it's not a beneficial drug. Now, remember,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: it's not really a drug, it's a plant. That grows
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: wild in the fields the in the of France. It's
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I forget what it's say. It's like the French lee
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: lack official official aalys or something. And again big farm
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: of patented it and made it into a drug. But it's
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: absolutely a plant. And what it does pull better than
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: anything else, including berberin, including ala, including all these other
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: different glucose disposal agents. It increases Acramancia muscillus, which is
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: the heart, the helpful beneficial microbes that grow in the
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: stomach and in the microbiome that prevent It prevents candida,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: It prevents you know, again, anything that can inflame the
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: microbiome or the gut, and so if you have healthy
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: levels of that, you're pretty much impervious to everything. In fact, dude,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: there's like now fifty studies on PubMed that show that
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: people that were using that forman during COVID never got sick.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: It's interesting, I didn't know that that Foreman had an
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: impact on the gut microbiome. For a little bit of
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: context for our listeners, Sam and you can jump in
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: and odd depths to this story.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: So Mett Foreman.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Caused big waves in the longevity space. A number of
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: years ago when there was that study which I'm sure
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: you're familiar with, that showed that function. Well, no, the
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: ones that diabetics I'm talking who were on mat form
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: and lived right. And then there was a second study
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: that came out that kind of negated those findings. And
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: there was some criticism of the first study because some
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: people who had pre existing conditions and they were really
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: out of it. But anyway, there's a big team trial
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: going on, so talk about the team trial. But then
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: I have seen some other studies around and other benefits
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: of met foreman, right, And then I'd like you to
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: ask the question or answer the question about from your perspective,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: does taking met forman inhibit some of the benefits of
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: exercise if you are exercising them currently taking met forman? Right,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: I think if you can't exercise, met forman is a
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: no brainer. But clarified that question, and I will tell
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: us about the team study the answer.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: So let me go from the beginning. So Neil Burr's
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: all lie as a friend of mine because he knows
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I'm a huge met form and supporter and he's obviously
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: read my article and my thesis and all that stuff,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: and so he's been kind of letting me know that
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be validated at some point very soon.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: So when the information comes out about the tame trial,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: the world is going to know that everything all the
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: people and there's obviously it's not just me and smart people.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that know the metforum is amazing.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: But met Forman will be validated. Now to your question
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: about does it rate? Does it limit M tour signaling
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: which could functionally limit power output? It does. But here's
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: the thing, and you know, I've had debates with some
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: really very smart people. Stand efforting shout out to the rhino.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: He's like one of the world's like smartest powerlifters and strongman,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: and he's a really smart guy scientist, and him and
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I have openly debated this in public forums and at
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: symposiums and stuff like that. But basically I got him
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: to say that because he was against met forman up
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: for a long time. But then once he really started
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: looking into the research, he was like, Wow, He's like,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I guess that my guys, meaning his strength athletes, you
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: know again, and these are world class powerlifters should come
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: off of met form in ten days before a meet
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Now why is he saying that Because met Foreman is
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: so powerful at the cellular level in regulating NAD plus,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: in regulating mitochondrial output, that it does suppress M tour
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: signaling so much that it can like reduce force output.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: So if you're a and again think about this for
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: a second, if you're a world class strong man and
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: you need to generate maximum torque and force production in
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: your lift, then yes, you should not be on met
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: format about ten days somewhere between ten and fourteen days
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: before your meet because it's very transient in the cell
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: that it does this. And again, met Foreman does so
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: many and this is where stand comes in and agrees
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: with me. It does so many other amazing things for
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: cellular health and for life extension that he believes that
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: everybody should be on it. Now, remember, world class power
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: athletes or strength man are fat guys. You know, they're inflamed.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: They have high A one C levels. I mean, if
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you've ever been to a power you know, what do
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: you call it? Like a world class powerlifting event or
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: a strong man competition? These dudes are fat, like they're
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: strong as hell, but they are not healthy. I mean,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: these are guys I mean, when you see them finish
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: their moves, they're ever on the side and they're like
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: you're looking at them like, oh shit, this guy's gonna
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: code right, because they're just not in good hell. So
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Stan has admitted that he thinks that it's a great
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: product to take for very very strong people who are
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: not in the best of heart health and not in
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: the best metabolic health because they eat too much to
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: be again, they're world class strength athletes, but as far
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: as people because they also this is also a myth
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: that's out there it suppresses testosterone or it suppresses underconfunction.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Anything that it's ever done in anyone at any study
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: level was transient. So it's not going to like if
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: you take five hundred milligrams AM and PM, or if
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: you're a woman and you take two fifty and two fifty,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: it's not going to suppress your natural testosterine function or
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: out any more than just a tiny bit within probably
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the hour of you taking it. So and I always
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: say this, like, and obviously you know my opinion on
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: hormone optimization. If you're hormonally optimized, it makes no difference
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: or benefit at all. If you're not, it could affect
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: you from having like if you're a three hundred and
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: fifty three testosterone level, it could lower you to three
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: twenty five before you before you train, or in that
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: transient window that you took it in that hour after
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: you took it. But is that really gonna have a
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: beneficial or negative effect to you overall in your life
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: and your training or in your force production. No, it's not.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: And so and again, I know thousands of people who
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: are not hormonally optimized who use met form and they've
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: all told me, most of them that initially. And this
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: is something too that we should talk about. Like if
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: you have an inflamed microbiome and you start taking met
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: form and you're gonna you're gonna get You're not gonna
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: get sick, You're gonna feel like shit, Like you're gonna
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: feel nauseous and queasy because it's literally upregulating the good,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: healthy intestinal fauna and microbes to kill whatever shit you
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: got growing in your stomach. And again, dude, most people
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: today have stuff that their stomach is inflamed, their gun
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: is inflamed. So like you're gonna see a six to seven,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: maybe even eight to nine day window where you're gonna
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: have to have that stuff killed off, and met Forman
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: is going to do an amazing job of doing that.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: So you kind of have to just like I always say,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: you got to like gut, you know, literally and figuraly
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: gut your way through it, and and then once it
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: kills everything in your microbiome, you'll be fine. And so,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: like I said, I mean, I've been on met Forman
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: since twenty twenty I'm sorry, two thousand and two. So
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I've been on it now for twenty two, twenty three
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: years now. I've experimented with that hydro berber and come
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: off of it completely. I'm also now using a microdose
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: of Jardians because jar Dance is you know, an SGL
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: two inhibitor, and it's an amazing longevity drug. It increases HDL,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: it does a lot of amazing things. But I will
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: always use met form and again just because I want
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: to be protected in my microbiome from all the goddamn
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: toxic exposure we have globally, and then you never know
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: when they're gonna hit us with their next bioweapon, you
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: So, So let's so we talked about met form and
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: you've talked about so if we just recap a little bit.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: So your advice around longevity is optimize your hormones first,
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: and then potentially we're into peptides slash stuff like met
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: forman to manage your inchinin levels. And you then talked
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: about the mitochondria, and I do want it before we
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: finished and jump jump into the mitochondria because for me,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: that's where a lot of health starts or stops at
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: the mitochondria.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: So it starts there.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: So give us the low down on mitochondrial optimization, and
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: not just from a exogenous chemicals or peptides perspective, but uh, like,
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: let's talk about exercise. Let's talk about red light red
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: light therapy if you if that's something that you're into.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: So of course I have a I have a Trifecta
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: pro four fifty bed in my in my biot, dude,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I have everything.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Man, I'm presumably sorry, presumably jay that is producing both
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: red light and nearer for red light. So give give
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: our listeners maybe the two minute overview on light therapy,
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: because if people haven't heard this, it's going to spin
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: them out, like I think this ship is.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I'm actually going to grab a book. I want to
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: of course I usually have it right here access to me,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: and now I can't find it. But it's from doctor
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Carl Rothschild, and people hear the name Rothschild. Here's here's
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Ari Whitten's book. This is actually old, but there was
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: a new book, a new red light book that came
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: out last year. This is like the first you know, scientifically, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: And that's just from Ari. Ri is a good friend whatever.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: But but the newest book, which is I think it's
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: called Subliminal Healing and it's again by doctor Carl Rothschild,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: and I don't you can fact check me. That's probably
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: not the title, but it's something like that. But he
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: basically has all the newest studies. Now here's when I'm
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: gonna like throw you for a loop. Most red light
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: technology is worthless because it's Chinese grade and it doesn't
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: have a medical grade signature, and it's not producing an
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: energy signature whether it's near infrared or red light that's
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: deep that's strong enough to get into the cells. And
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: that's the problem is the majority of red light technology
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: on this planet is absolute garbage.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: The par I put the wattage that it's producing, the
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: wats whatever exactly what's the energy signature.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent the energy signature. And sadly the
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Chinese everybody that was first getting into the red light
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: fora I mean, you know this, it's a cottage industry.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Now everybody sells something red light, but the majority of
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: the technology is worthless. And that's why if you buy
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: doctor Carl Rothchild's book, and again I apologize, I don't
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: know where it is. I can't find it. I usually
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: have it right next to me to talk about this.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: It talks about the signature necessary for both to really
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: feel it and true story when I was using juve,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: you know, because I was a spokesperson or an influencer
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: or whatever where they called me a spokesperson model or
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: whatever for them for a long time. You know, we
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: had the eleven thousand dollars device and we stood in
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: front of it and I would say to my wife,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: do you think it's doing anything? And she's like, yeah,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean other than us taking pictures of
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: putting them on social media. I don't remember when I
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: got this device two years ago, the first session, I
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: was like, holy shit, this is what red light, this
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: is what people were talking about now again, my device
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: costs eighty thousand dollars the average person, Dude, the best
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: devices cost one hundred and sixty. I have the highest
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: quality of the best tech from an energy signature standpoint,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: at the cheapest price in the marketplace. So again, it's
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: another scam because a lot of people are buying these
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars, three hundred dollars whatever they get, you know, devices,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: and they're getting nothing. They're getting absolutely nothing. When you
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: lay in a red light medical grade signature, near infrared
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: and red light device, you absolutely get cellularly upregulated. Your
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: mitochondria are turned on, you get better skin quality, you
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: get better energy. I mean again, you know what the
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: mitochondria are responsible for. Most people are not getting it.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: They're not getting it because they're not getting the right
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: energy signature. Now again, I'm not going to say out
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: here and disparage companies. There's probably a ton of companies
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: now that are putting out the right energy signature and
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: they probably are under a thousand bucks. And I don't know,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: but if you really want to feel a medical grade
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: red light signature, you got to get in one of
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: these high end beds and you need to lay in it.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: For twelve to fifteen minutes just to feel it, because
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: most people never feel that.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: And let's talk about the mechanisms. So when there is
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: good quality right the the the rere light itself will
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: will have a big impact on the skin and one
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: healing burns.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Like there's so much.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: I wrote a chapter in this in my book like
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: the the the the impact on and I actually have
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: have used it. I had open heart surgery and the
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: healing of my Scott.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, really really quick.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: Everything and in the near infrared penetrates deeper into the body,
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: activates the mitochondria, particularly cydochrome ser oxydes in the electron
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: transport shed talk to talk to people about why real
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: light and other things to support the mitochondria. Why this
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: is really important for our overall health.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: It's massive and I'll just add the other things. So
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: this is a new technology that I just got in
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: my house. I should have it in my house. In February,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I was I was supposed to come back from Kiwiville
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: and Australia with this thing in my house and it
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: was just delayed and delayed and delay. But besides medical
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: grade red light and neur infra red light ozone and
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: oxygen perfused into the tissue is amazing, like absolutely amazing.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: So I have this device. It's in my master bathroom.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Why my wife and I literally Paul remodeled our bathroom
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: just to get this device in there. It's called the Neat,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: the Bamini Needy, the Beamini Nanojet, and it is a
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: giant tub that functions as a hyperbaric oxygen chamber, and
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: so this tub will go down to freezing so you
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: can do cold plunges or what goes up to one
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: hundred and five so you can do like a you know,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: a jacuzzi steaming hot. My wife and I just keep
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: it at like one hundred and one to one hundred
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: and three year round and just get it in there. Bro,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: I get in the I'm not joking, but I'm home.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I get in that thing at least twice a day,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: and sometimes three times a day. Now I only use
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: my red light device probably like once every other day.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I get in it weekly. But if you use
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: red light and then jump in that and profuse your
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: tissues with oxygen and ozone, bro, there's no that's the
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: ultimate biohack. I mean, I feel like I'm getting younger,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I'm performing better in the gym, my strength training, I'm
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: getting stronger, I'm getting more muscular, I'm getting leaner. That
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: is the ultimate one. Two combo is medical grade and
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: you're ine for red red light and then ozone and
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: oxygen perfused into the tissues. And so what that is
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: is it's just a giant Jacouzzi tub above ground and
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: you just get in it and you hit oxygen sensor
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: on it. It's you know, all push button and it
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: just starts perfusing ozone and oxygen into the water. And
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: so you can if you want to go under. I
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: don't ever go under. I just lay down and I
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: breathe in and do breathing exercises and getting in and
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: it's insane. It's insane.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: What so I'll get into you in a second. That
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: mechanism of why that's additive. What what about methylene blue
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: with red light therapy?
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Are you using their way from methylene blue?
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: It is real bad moves because it's doing things you
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: talked about cydochrome and see it's doing a lot of
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: things that are negative.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: It has short term benefits, but long term I would
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: stay away from methylene blue. It's not good. Most of
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: the studies on methylene blue doing beneficial things are flawed.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: And just so you know, I was using methylene blue
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, and thankfully my wife and I were
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: literally like getting the blue tongue and we'd be looking
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: at each other like does it do anything for you?
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: And she was like, no, does it do anything for you? No?
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: And this is my pet theory. I don't think anyone
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: who has hormones, who has optimized hormones feels the benefit
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: of methylene blue. People without optimized hormones feel the mental
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: the dopamine signaling effect, but you don't feel that if
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: you have hormones, if you're optimized hormones, because you already
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: have incredibly enhanced dopamine signaling. But there's a lot of
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: stuff that's coming out about methylene blue right now that
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: is not good. It's also doing things. It's also doing
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: things in your body. That chemical array that is being
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: released in your body can cause let's just call it
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: free oxy radical build up and and and produce. I
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: would actually say enhance sinessen cell formation that it's I mean,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't touch methylene blue. I would stay away from
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: methylene blue. And I know it's all the rage right
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: now and people are talking about methylene blue. And I
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: do know there is some enhanced dopamine signaling and people
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: feel a cognitive boost from it, but I would stay
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: away from it. I've never been a proponent of it.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: And now that I started seeing some new stuff on it,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, now I know why, but I
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: don't like the medical grade red light and neurine for
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: red light. And then whether you use a hyperbaric chamber
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: or you get one of the technologies that I have.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: They even sell a portable device so you can put
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: the portable device in your tab and it's just as
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: effective as having the nice one. And by the way,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: the one that I have is thirty is thirty grand okay?
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: And and and the purpose of that is that enhancing
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: oxygen delivery to the mitochondria or is there a separate right.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: No, no noder. So it's so basically it's like a
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: double z app right, like if you go I've learned
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: the hard way. If you do that first and then
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: get into the red light bed, you literally are sitting
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: in the red light bed and you get out of
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: the red light bed and your the red light bed
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: is a notionan because it's just turned on your mitochondria
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: from all this the perfusion in the mitochondria and now
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: the red light's activating it. So you're just like sitting
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: there and you get out of the red light bed
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: in twelve minutes and you're soaked like your body. I mean,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: you talk about like a furnace, a metabolic furnace. It's
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: like boom. But if you do the opposite, and you
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: do the red light first and then you get into
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: the profusion and then you go train, you just are
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: an animal. I mean you have like I mean I would.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Actually this is my opinion and I have no way
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: to verify this, but I think you have about a
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: ten to twelve percent performance enhancement. It's insane, which for
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: guys like us is a lot, right, Like that's three
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: or four more reps. That's better recovery. You know, you
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: can shorten your rest intervals. I mean it's noticeable, much
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: more noticea when I track everything, so like I know
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: when I'm like whoa, you know, But like I said, dude,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: I literally get in that thing. I'm addicted to it.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: I get in that thing twice a day, usually fifteen
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: to twenty minutes. I take my phone, I take my books.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: I'll read. You know, somebody's got to invent something where
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: I could put like a book as I underneath it
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: so I can just turn the pages because I hate
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: holding onto my phone. Dude, fuck these screens man.
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: So Jake, just to summarize, because we picked through a
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: ship lot stuff to that you got going so from
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: from a bio hacking perspective, if you were to design
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: and look, I know the caveat here is that it
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: is going to be different for different people. But just
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: let's say you got somebody in the middle age who
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: just isn't feeling great and once, what's the best bio
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: hacking stack for me? What would you be saying from
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: a generic perspective?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: First, first order businesses, get your labs done, get blood
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: work done. Understand if you have a hormone deficiency, because
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: obviously you know, as much as I support therapeutic hormones,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: if you're anally retentive and you know, super diligent, I
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: think you could probably optimize you know, not as well
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: as with hormones, but get close by just changing your
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: lifestyle living in soolin controlled you know, start exercising. You know,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: people say, what does that mean, Jay, when you say
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: live in saline control, It means regulate your carbohydrate consumption.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: You know, the great Charles Poloquin, the great Charles Pollquin
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: said you get your carbs when you deserve them, right,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: So it's.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Like, and now, Jerry, all, I'm not sorry.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: I think we should reneeme diabetesis carbohydrate intolerance right exactly.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: That would be a game too.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: And now, very good parton. I'm glad you started with that.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: Get your fundamentals right. There's no point and going and
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: doing all this stuff if you're eating a shit diet
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: and not exercising and your sleep's crap, right, so your
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: short your fundamentals are at worst, then horble.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Control living is number one. Once you're insulin control living
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: and you can see clearly and you can think clearly,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: then it's obviously like, you know, what does your exercise
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: routine look like? Are you doing resistance training? Are you
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: doing some form of cardiovasco training? You should always do both.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: You know, I have all these guys who say I
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: don't need to do cardio, my rest intervals are short
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: in my lifting, and I laugh in their face and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: I say, bro, you don't even understand the purpose of cardio.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: The purpose of cardio is to prevent vascular defect and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: illness and dysregulation as you get older, and lifting weights
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: is not going to strengthen the vascular network like cardio is.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: So it's crazy that these guys think that by lowering
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: their rest intervals are going to get cardiovascular benefit. But
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: so obviously live insulin first, get lab work. Understand if
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: you have a hormone deficiency, start living insulin controlled. You
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: can do that. At the same time, beyond the foundations,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: getting seven to eight hours of sleep a night, hopefully
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: you know, deep, reastful sleep. You know, have good sleep hygiene,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: black out your room, no technology, turn off your Wi Fi,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah. You know, again, combination of resistance training
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: and obviously cardiovascal training. And then if you have a
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: hormone deficiency, investigate using therapeutic hormones. If you're too cheap,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: too afraid, or too cheap to do that, then you know,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: change your lifestyle. You know, change your clothing that you wear.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Stop wearing polyester, stop wearing you know, non breathable clothing
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: that prevents hormones and does all these other things. I mean, again,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: there's so many, the list is endless. But again, the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: biggest tool in the tool belt for sure is optimizing
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: your hormones with therapeutic testosterone. And if you're a woman
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: you might need you know, estra dial and progesterone two,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: and sometimes men need both of those as well as
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: they get older. So make sure you're obviously working hopefully
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: depending on where you live, with a physician who understands
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: how to hormonally optimize. You do not work with a
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: general practitioner a family doctor because they're clueless. And then
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: from there, you know. My peptide stack of choice would
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: be again a growth hormone AGUS peptide, either testing for CJC,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: mitochondrial peptide. My favorite is SS thirty one, which is
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: an amplifier peptide, So anything else that you take, if
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: you use SS thirty one, you can lower the dose
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: up and because it literally will amplify the cellular cascades
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: and the cellular signaling. So again it's a mitochondrial peptide
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: by trade, but it does so many amazing things, and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: all you need is a micro dose of that peptide,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: so you can take like two hundred and fifty to
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: five hundred micrograms every other day and get awesome benefit
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: from that. From that, you know, if you want a nootropic,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: you would take a Cimax. Dihexa are my two favorite.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: You know. We my company at Biolongevity Labs, we make
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: a nootropic oral product right now that is by far
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: the number one nootropic in the world. It's called Biomind
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: and it has three different two small molecules. One peptide
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: has dihexa. It has a new product that nobody even
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: knows about yet called J one forty seven and it's
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: actually a stage two Alzheimer's drug for NERD genitive disease,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: and it's amazing. I mean, you should see what they're
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: getting back on people that are in the stage trials
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: on it. So we actually have that in our formulation.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: And then we also have new pep which you're probably
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: familiar is a really powerful race attam but that peptide
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: stack slash small molecule stack is without a doubt the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: number one in the world. We have tons of a
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: list people and you know, famous athletes are already using
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: it right now. But that's what I would use one
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: hundred percent. And again it's just an oral capsule, so
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: you can take two in the morning, and it's amazing me.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Think what else would I do.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: If you're red light therapy?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you're injured. I was going to
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: get to that in a second, but if you're injured,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: you know you want to always have VPC or TV
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: five hundred. Cardillacs is also a new injectable bio regulator
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: that is actually helping to reboost or reboot cartilage. So
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of in the Holy Grail. Is
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: like cartilage regeneration is very difficult to get by. You
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: know a lot of people will say, you know, you
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: can use PRP or stem cells or extrasomes in a
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: co press spine, but you really can't. But Cardillacs we've
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: seen people use that and it is helping to regenerate
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: nerve fiber bundles around damage bone on bone spine. So
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: that's that's one to look at. And then you know,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: outside of peptides or supplements for sure, medical grade red
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: light you know, three or four days a week. I mean,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: if you're acutely injured, you already said it, and you
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: have autoimmune disease or you have, you know, a horrible disease.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: You could get in that thing for twenty minutes a day,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: every single day. I mean, it helps against everything. I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: know people that have what do you call it epilepsy
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: that use it. You know, people that have MS, multiple sclerosis.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: It helps with that. So it does so many amazing things.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: But I mean, again, you know, it's obviously relative to
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: your level of acute injury. And then perfusion with oxygen
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: and nozone. Now there are other products out in the marketplace, Paul.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: There's the hoe cat, but that thing's like eighty five
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: or ninety thousand, you know, clinics have that, and then
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: h bots in a real h BOT is one hundred k.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: So just for the people who don't understand that hyperboweric
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: oxygen therapy correct. So it's like this capsulity get in
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: and did.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Honestly, the two smartest guys in the world with h
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: POT and they're very good personal friends of mine, doctor
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Scott Sheer and doctor what is the name Jason Saunders,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: the two leading guys. They both told me.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: They both told me because I got Jason Saunders on
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: my podcast before.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: Jason's awesome dude, I love Jason. So anyway, those guys
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: are geniuses and I've known them forever. And I talked
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: to both of them in November and December because that's
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: what we were thinking about this year. We were thinking
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: about getting one of those because they have them in
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: China right now. Do they have the medical grade steel
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: ones in China And they'll ship them to you for
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: like fifty K. And so I was thinking about putting
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: a room out in my back where my backyard is,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: and just putting it out there and having you know,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: a contractor build a room for it. And we could
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: do it because my wife when she had surgery, used
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: it to heal and it was amazing. And they do work.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: You know that, they're amazing. But dude, both of those
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: guys told me, do not, under any circumstance put one
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: of those in your house. And I was like, why,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: It's like, because they blow up, No Jesus, when they depressurize,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: they blow up, and dude, I shit you not. Like
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: two months after that, Jason sent me a link to
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: a place in Oakland, Michigan, which is like a really
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: wealthy suburb outside of Detroit, and sure enough, a mom
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: and her twelve year old son and the nurse practitioner
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: the mom. The twelve year old was in it when
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: it blew up and he was gone, and the mom.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: The mom was killed after going to the hospital, and
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: the nurse practitioner lost both of her arms. And so, dude,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not joking and I'm not trying to put fear
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: into people's minds, but I mean, you're dealing with a
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: very high end, medical grade device that you know is pressurized.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: So I don't think you want to be anywhere from
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: you can get You can get this thirty thousand dollars
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: tub and leave it on at all time and just
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: get in it twice a day, and if you're sick
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: or injured, you could get it in five I mean,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: you could send it for two hours a day.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: It will heal you, dude. The first session, the first session,
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  Speaker 2: I already told you about the red light. The first
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: session of that, I was like, I feel my airways expanding,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: and honestly, I'm a highly conditioned athlete with super low
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: body fat and I just felt it. Like the first day,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is insane. And now I've had
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  Speaker 2: it in my house for two months and I'm completely
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: addicted to it. I mean, I think it's the future.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you'll probably eventually see a lot of people
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: supporting it. They ground a bunch of pro athletes with it,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: but they don't have a lot of influencers promoting it yet.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: But I think it's the next big thing because again,
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  Speaker 2: it's one third the cost of a hyperbaric chamber.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a it's a bendoning.
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  Speaker 2: It's b a SB you'll link, but it's b i
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  Speaker 2: am Ni Bemini, which is the fountain of youth in Spanish,
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  Speaker 2: and it's basically I think it's Beamini. Hold on, let
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: me let me just before I give you butcher.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get we'll get the link. Check that's all good.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get the link for memory Bamini Hydrotherapy dot com,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Aminihydrotherapy dot com. But they've got multiple forms now, They've
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: got like a miniature one that's like six grand you
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: can put it in your tub, and then the you know,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: the high end rolls voice one that I have is
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: like thirty k. It's worth it. Yeah, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: better than my red light tech Jay.
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  Speaker 4: This has been an absolute tor to force through hormones, peptides, oxygen,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: red lights, it's just Jesus you name it.
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  Speaker 1: So Jay Mohr, can people go to find.
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  Speaker 4: Out more about you and the stuff that you do,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: and also about biolongevity lops.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, man, And honestly, thank you man. I love
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: when people are really smart and ask me because I'm
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: one of those guys. Like, if you ask me really
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: smart questions, I'll give you really cool answers. But like
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: if you just sit there and be like ooo, you know,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: I don't have anything to say. So you are awesome, man.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: I give you commend you give you mad respect and props.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: So people can find me on social media at j
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: Campbell three three three. I'm more active on x or
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: whatever the hell at Twitter, probably heavily shadow band on
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Instagram and YouTube in those places and of course LinkedIn too.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: And then my website is Jacampbell dot com and I
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: do have a domain for anybody who watches me on
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: a podcast to download all my books because again I'm
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: a service to others. Person, I give away all my
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: products for free. I don't care. It's jacampbell dot com
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  Speaker 2: forward slash free books, and so they can go there
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: and they can download a freak PDF copy of all
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: the books that I have, and there's some really amazing
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: books there, you know, both of the hormone books, the
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: fasting books, and then my peptide book is there too.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: To heay, this has been awesome. Thank You've been very
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  Speaker 4: generous for your time. I know you've got to go
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: and meet your wife, but that's been awesome. We will
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: put the links in the show notes for everybody, and yeah,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: just keep doing what you do.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks brother. Let me know how I can help you.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. I'm very grateful. This was an
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: awesome show. You have an amazing day, Okay, thanks Butt