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Court: We Won't Be Releasing That Information Publicly | The Murder of Kentucky Judge Kevin Mullins · True Crime with Gavin Fish

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Well, hello there, my friend and welcome.
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Listen, it has been forever since we have had an update on
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the case of the murder of Judge Kevin Mullins.
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I'm looking for the right buttons here.
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The Letcher County, Kentucky judge who was shot and killed by
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the Letcher County Sheriff Mickey Stein's in his in his
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chambers. We've covered this case at
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length and tonight we are going to welcome back Elizabeth Jones
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from Hillbilly Crime to talk about the latest couple of
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things that have happened in the case.
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So hopefully that interests you and if it does, stick around.
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This video contains mature themes and discussions intended
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only for adult audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.
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Hello there again, my friend. Welcome back to another true
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crime conversation with me, Gavin Fish, where we cut through
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the fluff and sensationalism of true crime.
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We get down into the nitty gritty, and the case that we're
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covering tonight has both nitty and gritty to the extreme.
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And I'm really excited to welcome Elizabeth Jones back to
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the channel. She's going to be joining us in
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just a bit. But before we get to that, let's
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get started with headlines. True crime headlines, how?
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All right, we've been covering this case all week, the murder
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trial of Brian Walsh. She was on murder for or on
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trial for the murder of his wife Anna, because of the Kevin
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Mullins case. I, I just, I called an audible.
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We got to cover the Kevin Mullins case.
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It's a case that we're deep into.
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But let me read a couple of headlines.
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This coming to us from WCVB. Brian Walsh trial updates.
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Jurors shown hacksaw, hatchet tools from case evidence
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Dateline Dedham, Mass Hand tools, including a hatchet and a
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hacksaw, were entered into evidence Friday in the murder
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trial of Brian Walsh, the Massachusetts father accused of
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killing and dismembering his wife.
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Let me mute that. The Cohasset man is accused of
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killing and dismembering on a Walsh 39 around New Year's Day
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in 2023. Prosecutors allege that Brian
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Walsh disposed of his wife's remains in dumpsters around the
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area. Heather Sullivan, a retired Mass
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State MSP trooper, was on the stand as prosecutors entered
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into evidence a series of hand tools found during the search of
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dumpsters at the Swampscott apartment complex.
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The retired trooper, who worked in crime scene services, said
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she took photos that were previously shown to the jury
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after her. Yeah, she was asked to open a
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series of evidence bags, pull out tools so that actual tools
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were shown to the jury. Very dramatic, I'm sure, for the
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jury, but that was the main thing that happened today.
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Oh, the other thing that happened today was what's his
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bucket? What's his name?
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The former. What is his name?
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The former Massachusetts State trooper from the Karen Reed
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case. I don't remember his.
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I don't want to remember his name, but he was mentioned
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today. Anyway, moving on to the case of
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Anna Kepner. You guys remember Anna Kepner is
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the 18 year old Titusville, FL girl who died was murdered on a
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Carnival cruise ship last month. This one brought to us by Fox
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News written by Michael Ruiz, friend of the show Good Guy.
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Title says stepbrother could be charged in Anna Kepner's
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Carnival cruise death, according to a lawyer.
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Dateline Melbourne, the attorney for Anna Kepner's stepmother,
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acknowledged that her 16 year old stepson may soon face
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charges. Her 16 year old stepson?
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No, it's her son. I thought.
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Anyway, at the state or federal level in connection with the 18
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year old cheerleader's death aboard a Carnival cruise ship
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last month, quote, we're not sure what the FBI is going to
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do, said Millicent Athanasen, attorney for Chantelle Kepner.
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Whether he's going to be charged federally or whether they're
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going to turn it over to the state.
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The FBI's Miami office is leading the investigation and
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has not publicly identified any suspects or announced any
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charges. The remarks came during an
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emergency custody hearing in an ongoing dispute between Anna's
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stepmom and her ex-husband, Thomas Hudson.
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Both parents in court filings, have referred to their 16 year
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old son and a stepbrother as a suspect in the death and the
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subject of the FBI probe. So at least we've got it.
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We've got it on record from an attorney for Misses Kepner that
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that, yeah, TH could be facing charges.
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No idea when that's going to happen though.
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And that's killing me. OK last headline for the day
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coming to you from Crime COD which you guys should go check
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out for Sydney. This comes to us from down
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under. 4 Sydney men charged an alleged satanic child abuse ring
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Dateline Sydney 4 men in Sydney have been charged with
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possessing and distributing C Sam as part of an international
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network that allegedly used satanic symbols and rituals.
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Dude this is reminding me of like Nexium right?
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Of course, there were no children involved to my
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knowledge of Nexium, but detectives executed search
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warrants across the city on November 27th as part of a long
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running investigation into the online distribution of the C Sam
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videos. The arrests were announced
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Monday by the NSW Police forces Sex Crime Squad.
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Let's let's name these guys Landon Germanotta Mills, Stuart
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Woods, Riches, Andrew Mark Andrews Sandecki and Benjamin
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Raymond Drysdale, as reported by the AP.
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So yeah, crime does not stop at the US borders, right?
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This is a part of the human experience.
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There are those that are just willing to do terrible, terrible
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things and it just kills us. But those are your headlines,
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true crime headlines, bum. OK, back to the case at hand,
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the case of Judge Kevin Mullins. Let's welcome back to the show.
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I need to unmute this. Sorry about I I had you muted.
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Elizabeth Lizeth Jones, Hillbilly Crime.
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Thank you for holding. Me, you've got a new look to the
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old home studio there. Yeah, so my friend Jenny, you
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know, my lawyer friend Jenny, she gave her office up finally
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down there on Main Street, right across from the courthouse.
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So we went down and moved her out and she gave me this big
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nice fancy desk. Noise, yeah.
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Moving on up in the world. Does it feel like you're an
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executive now? Oh my gosh, I feel like.
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A real girl. That's pretty fun.
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Yeah. Well, listen, I got and I shared
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it with you. I think you probably already had
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it because you've got your finger on the pulse down there.
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But I got a document yesterday from the courts.
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I got to pull up the right place.
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Where am I going? Here we are.
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That is an order denying a motion by Mickey Stein's team.
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Let me see if I can zoom in on this just a little bit, denying
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a motion to unseal the KCPC evaluation.
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Can you kind of give us some background on why did they want
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to unseal this? What was it?
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What is the KCPC evaluation? Well, we really don't know why
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they were wanting to unseal it because we don't know what part
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of it they were wanting to use. But the judge has denied that
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and said you cannot use anything out of it for the bond hearing.
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So they had put in a motion and requested to have part of this
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unsealed so that they could use it for the bond hearing.
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Now I don't know why they they never did say and now it looks
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like they're not allowed to say. So what was the KCPC evaluation?
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What is it? Oh, so they, for Mickey Stein's
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defense, were going with a mental health defense and so
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they were not saying that. They were not questioning his
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competency to stand trial. They were question it.
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They wanted him to be evaluated by the doctors down there to see
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what his state of mind was at the time of the crime.
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Right. And did you see the the article
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that that he said that he was he did it, but he didn't mean to.
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No, what? What?
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What article was that? Well, let me, let me just send
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it to you real fast. Alright.
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And it it was in the where Judge Mullins's wife sued the Letcher.
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Yeah, General. Deputies, it apparently came out
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of that and. By the way, that's not a federal
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case, that's a state case. I haven't been able to find it
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yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So let me send you this. I've got it right here.
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It must have been to Gavin, all right.
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Are you texting or emailing? Yeah, I sent it to your text
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messages. OK, Yeah.
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Ex sheriff says he killed judge but didn't do it intentionally.
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Right. But I I don't have that
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paperwork so. OK, let me see if I can bring it
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up on screen here real quick. Give me a second.
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What you're doing, I mean 9 slugs in the guy, but I didn't
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do it intentionally. Right.
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I didn't mean it was an accident.
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Let's see. Well, last night on my show, we
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went over that and we read the 15 page denial of whatever it
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was to to dismiss the case. And then tonight we are going to
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read the bond hearing. Ah OK.
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When is the bond hearing happening?
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Has it happened? I don't think it's been
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scheduled yet. Former Electric County Sheriff
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Sean Mickey Stein's acknowledged in a lawsuit that he killed
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District Judge Kevin R Mullins, but said he did not do so
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intentionally. Statement was part of an answer
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to a wrongful death lawsuit filed by Mullins widow seeking
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damages from him and from three deputies she claims should have
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stopped Stein's quote. Defendant admits to shooting
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Judge Kevin Mullins in his chambers.
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Defendant denies he did so intentionally as he lacked the
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capacity to intend the actions alleged in plaintiff's
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complaint. To the extent further response
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is required, defendant denies at this time.
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The answer says OK. That was a but that was a
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mouthful. Yeah, it's a lot blah blah, for
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sure. Yeah, 'cause that's the other
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thing that happened here is that we've got this lawsuit from
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Kevin Mullen's widow. A widow, yeah.
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Yeah, who? Who?
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It's basically a wrongful death suit against Stein's and three
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other, which basically, I mean, wasn't there a lawsuit from
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Mickey Stein's wife kind of in a similar did?
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Has she filed a lawsuit on this? Not that I know of, but but I I
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might not be the first one to know about something like that.
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That's funny. You're you're kind of persona
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non grata down there in Letcher County right now, right?
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Well, you know, not everybody can have a really cool accent
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and and I don't know. I think you got a cool accent.
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Well, thanks. Thanks.
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I think so too. Yeah, that's pretty funny.
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The so I was reading the document.
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Let me let me bring it back up here real quick.
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I was reading this document. It's, it's a 26 page document
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and basically says, no, it's, you may not, you may not unseal
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this evaluation. And then it goes on to show, I
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mean, just like every legal filing, there's like 93 pages
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of, of stuff, right, that has previously been filed and so
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forth. But I thought that this was
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interesting. This is the last page.
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It says the defendant seeks to unseal the KCPC evaluation and,
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quote, introduce portions of the psychological evaluation at an
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evidentiary bond hearing to support his defense and ensure
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the court has a full and fair understanding of the relevant
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facts. However, a bail hearing is not a
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trial rehearsal subject to Kentucky Rules of Evidence in
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the case law, upon request for bail, a defendant may testify
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and call witnesses to show the proof is not evident or the
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presumption is not great that he committed murder.
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The narrow issue of the hearing is whether the facts adduced by
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the Commonwealth, notwithstanding the
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contradiction of them by the defendant's proof, warrant the
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conclusion that the proof of guilt is evident or presumption
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of guilt is great. Any proof which may exist and be
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used to contradict the Commonwealth's facts naturally
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exists apart from the sealed KCPC evaluation.
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In case law, KCPC sealed evaluation, or portions thereof
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may not be introduced into evidence at the bail hearing.
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So he's like, hey, this is a narrow reason that we're meeting
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here. We're talking about Bond.
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And so you don't need it in fact, and it's and the law
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doesn't allow it anyway. So you just need to present your
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proof. Outside of that, I got to figure
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that the that the Bartleys kind of knew that this was going to
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be the way it was going. You know what I think they were
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doing? Can I say what I think they're
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doing? That's.
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Why you're here I think. Now I could be wrong of course,
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but seeing what happened last time that they responded to
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something, they attached the grand jury testimony.
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They did. So if they would have unsealed
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this, I just think that maybe they would have attached that to
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something to which would have been able to get it out into the
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public in a leaking way, you know what I'm saying?
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Yeah, they just, they are. They're.
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Smart. It's strategy.
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And they do seem to be trying this in the court of public
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opinion more than they're trying it in actual court, right?
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Well, they're smart. They are, yeah.
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Yeah, they're because if you think about it, all these
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courthouse people, they're all old stuffy know it alls that
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think that you know, they have been stuck in the the way that
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the that everything is always ran and the world is changing.
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The world is changing all the way around the criminal justice
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system, and it's kind of still been stuck in the same way.
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It's been going for quite some time.
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Like we didn't just wake up one day.
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And, you know, all this corruption that we're talking
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about, you know, this isn't just happening in Eastern Kentucky,
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but Eastern Kentucky is kind of one of the last places in the
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world to get moderate. You know, like they're still
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smoking in the courthouse, you know what I'm saying?
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They still control, you know, they're still back in the old
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days, you know, in, in some sense.
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And the Bartleys are young, they're hip.
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They know about TikTok, they know about Snapchat.
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They know how to use those platforms.
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And they also know that, you know, the world of true crime
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and the world of, you know, the way that people get their
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information today has changed so much.
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Yeah, well, this reminds me what has happened, by the way, real
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quick over in the over in the live chat guys, it really helps
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me if you put GF in any question that you want me to see it
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highlights it and I I can see that my mods are having the
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night nightbot remind you this. But please, please, please, even
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if you've already put in a question, I promise you I can't
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see it unless you put GF in the question in the comments.
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So please do that. I'd really love to answer any
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questions that you guys have. But what your comment,
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Elizabeth, it, it reminds me that it reminds me that there is
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a motion still pending right where the prosecution is asking
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for a change of venue. Yeah.
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Has that been has that been decided yet?
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Not one bit. We or I haven't heard anything
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about it. This is strange because
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typically it's the defense. It's like, hey, I want my client
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to get a fair shake. We need a change of venue.
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But in this case, it's the opposite.
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The the prosecution is saying in order to have a fair trial, we
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need to get out of Fletcher County.
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I don't think that that really holds all that much water
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though, because I mean, this is all over the state.
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It's all over the world. Yes, it is.
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Well, that's, that's a perfect example of what I was trying to
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explain earlier. You know, the criminal justice
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system has been so used to 1 certain way and you got to thank
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everybody that works in it, whatever their role is.
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You know, they've just gotten used to it being the way that
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it, it's been always. And now things are starting to
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change. You know, they've got tick
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tockers that are lawyers. There's one in particular that
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I'm thinking of, and she has just waged war on the family
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court system. You know, yeah, like all of her
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Tik Toks, you know, she is blasting the corruption and the
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wrong, you know, the misconduct of these judges.
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You know, and these other attorneys, honey, she has made a
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name for herself. And, you know, I watch her
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sometimes and people are saying the same things to her that they
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say to me. You know, please be careful.
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You know, are you, are you, you know, fearful for your life.
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And it's that I said, you know, 20 years ago, I probably would
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be dead already. But the world has changed so
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much now, you know, Plus, you know, I don't drink, so I'm not
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not going to no bars at night. I'm not, you know, out on the
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road at night, period, unless we're coming to or from a ball
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game. And I've got a vehicle full of
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kids with me all the time, you know, big basketball players.
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So try me if you want to, I guess you know, and you're going
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to have to, you're going to have they're going to anybody.
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Like if somebody was to actually come to hurt me at my home or
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something, you're going to go past 100 cameras, You're going
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to go past a school that's surrounded by cameras and every
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camera about, you know, door camera, whatever, you're going
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to get caught. Yeah, there there was a case,
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there was a case out in western Pennsylvania near Spartansburg,
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Pennsylvania, which is full on deep Amish country.
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It just, and what had been happening was there had been
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break insurance like burglaries in all these Amish farms.
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And, you know, nobody had connected what it, what was
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going on there. I I happened to be in, you know,
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I was reporting on the story. So I was in Sparty and I was
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talking with the people that own the hardware store and there
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happened to be a couple of Amish folks in there and they started
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telling me about it. Yeah, there's this rash of
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burglaries, right? So I go back to the Pennsylvania
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State Police, they call them public information release
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reports and start finding reports of burglaries out there
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in Crawford County near Spartansburg.
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Go back to Spartansburg and I say, is this person Amish?
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Is this person Amish? Is this person Amish, Right.
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And I was able to tie together like 11 robberies that it or
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burglaries that it happened there, right.
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OK, so then what happened was in the course of a burglary, a man
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thought he had the place cased and he goes inside and a young
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mom, pregnant, 8 1/2 months pregnant with two little kids
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aged 3 and or four and two, something like that.
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And he slits her throat, kills her.
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OK, now, and and of course, when I when I was reporting on this
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and talking about these connected burglaries, the
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suspect's family is like, well, there goes that Gavin Fish
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connecting things that have nothing to do with it.
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He eventually, eventually pleaded guilty because yeah,
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yeah, he definitely was. Guilty.
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Yeah, I, I was the one that connected those things publicly.
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Now, the police, of course, were connecting those things behind
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the scenes for sure. Anyway, at his preliminary
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hearing, living out in the middle of podunk, nowhere, Amish
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country, no electricity kind of place, they had him on camera
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everywhere. Everywhere there was like there
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was a sportsman's club out there that had cameras just, and there
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were, there were like hunting cameras, right?
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There was a, there was a gas station.
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There was, you know, and it's along the kind of gas station
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that has one lonely pump and then like 5 horse, you know,
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ties, you know, what do they call those?
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I can't remember that you tie your horse too.
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But yeah, like, you cannot go anywhere in the modern world
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without being caught on camera. You just can't.
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Every home in America has a doorbell camera or you know,
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something now. And so, you know, if, if
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somebody wants to do that, you know, then they're gonna get
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caught. And so, you know, look at Mickey
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Steins. Mickey Steins were here today
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because Mickey Steins, you know, I don't know whether he
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remembered that camera was there or not.
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He could have just got been so mad and just wasn't even
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thinking about that until after it was over.
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And then was like, oh shit, that cameras.
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Oh dear. You know, I mean, he walked down
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the sidewalk. That could have been a very real
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thing. Him try to get away with it and
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get get out of there and then realize they they've got the
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camera. Yeah, I, I, I'm still, as you
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know, I'm a professional waffler, so I waffle back and
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forth on all this all the time. I do too.
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But do you think he was crazy in that moment?
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No. No.
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You don't. No, I don't.
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No, I'm starting to think I've always thought this really.
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But I've kept an open mind, you know, because I, I haven't like
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drilled down on one thing and been real, you know, they're all
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focused on this. I don't have no dog in the fat.
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So I don't care what the truth is, you know, it is what it is.
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I just want the truth to be out, yeah.
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Yeah, I think that there was just so much stuff and I think
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he thought that he was getting ready to go down alone.
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I think he thought that, you know, they were maybe grooming
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is might be the wrong word, Charming maybe trying to charm
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him into, you know, Oh, Mickey, it'll be all you're going to be
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all right, man. You're not going to run again
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anyway. You know, you just go ahead and
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do this and then it'll be over with.
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And, you know, maybe he thought he was the only one that was
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going to go down. And I could see myself sitting
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across the desk from the person that I knew all this stuff on,
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you know, that I knew he had done all this stuff.
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And basically the only reason I was in the position I was in is
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because of him doing his stuff. Couldn't stop doing his stuff.
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I, you know, I might be a little bit upset, too.
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Dude, you're getting ready to get away with everything, and
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I'm gonna go down this, you know, this ain't fair.
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This ain't right. Yeah.
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I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I'm, well, it's again, I
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waffle back and forth. I, when I first saw the video of
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him being interviewed by the by the state police in the
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beginning, I was like, dude, OK, this guy's 20 years in law
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enforcement. He knows, he know, he knows how
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to act crazy. He's seen it like a million
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times, right? And, and so in the beginning I
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was like, maybe. But when he is too afraid to go
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down the stairwell and then later on in the cop car in, you
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know, as he's being transferred out to out to the other jail,
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it's like, I don't know, man. I don't know if that can be an
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act. Well, I think that the paranoia
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was real, but just because you have paranoia and he was scared
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of going down that stairwell doesn't mean he's crazy.
27:36
You know, he could. Now, I do believe that the
27:42
threats were real. I feel like, you know, I don't
27:45
think that he just went and did this, you know, just 'cause he
27:48
got mad, you know, I think that it was a perfect storm of all of
27:55
the stress and the pressure that was around him, you know, and
27:59
only he knows what he's sitting on in the.
28:05
Truth. Only he knows that we don't have
28:09
any idea what he knows on other people.
28:11
And what he don't, nobody knows but him.
28:14
Yeah. So, you know, we might not can't
28:18
even understand or even comprehend the kind of secrets
28:24
that he knows. Yeah, I don't know, man.
28:29
I don't know, This is this is a case, man, this Hey, what's been
28:35
happening with Miss Little Miss Lila Stein's on TikTok and stuff
28:43
like that. Is anything else come out on
28:45
that? Well, I don't follow her.
28:49
I never have. The only time I got something is
28:53
if somebody had send it to me, you know, or something.
28:57
So I haven't really been paying attention.
28:59
She's come to a couple ball games, you know she.
29:04
Have you talked to her yet? No.
29:06
Why not? I don't want any part of that
29:10
fish. Oh dude, I'd be all over it.
29:14
I. Would not me?
29:15
All over it. Not me, not at all.
29:20
It is. Is this just don't want to be
29:22
seen publicly talking with her or or something?
29:26
Oh, no, no, I just, I'm not a reporter of fish.
29:30
Everybody kind of gets that confused and mistaken.
29:34
They keep trying to stick me in a box of, you know, stick me
29:38
with a title and then they get upset when I'm, you know, they
29:43
you're not a reporter. No, I'm not.
29:45
I don't like to interview people because I get stutter over my
29:50
words. You know, I, I kind of, I, I
29:54
blank out when I get nervous and I don't know what to say.
29:58
And so I would rather watch an interview and then we'll talk
30:04
about it. Yeah, no, I hear that.
30:07
And and you're right. I mean, you're right.
30:09
I, I am more of a reporter Bent. And I if, if I saw Lila Stein's
30:15
500 yards away from me, I would run toward that and I would want
30:19
to talk to her because I, this is one of those cases where I
30:28
kind of feel like justice was meted out.
30:31
I don't, I'm, I'm not. I feel like there's so much
30:36
evidence that has come out pointing to the fact that for
30:42
years Kevin Mullins was essaying women that I don't mind.
30:48
And now this is horrible because again, professional waffler,
30:52
right? Professional waffler here.
30:54
But it's horrible because I don't like prison justice.
30:58
I don't, I don't like vigilante justice.
31:00
But on the other hand, dude, if there are hundreds of victims
31:04
out there, some of them probably don't even consider this.
31:08
Some there's themselves victims. They don't understand the power
31:12
imbalance. They don't understand just how
31:15
wrong morally, ethically, legally that behavior is.
31:20
I, I think that there are probably hundreds.
31:22
And, and so I understand, I guess I understand what
31:28
happened. And I kind of feel like I you're
31:31
not. And as a reporter, you're not
31:33
supposed to, you're not supposed to take sides, right?
31:37
But I'm kind of on Mickey Stein's side on this.
31:42
So a lot of people are, a lot of people are.
31:46
I'm not on anybody's side because they both treated me,
31:50
you know, like I didn't exist. So I don't have any, you know,
31:55
like I said, I don't have any dog in the fat.
31:59
I just, you know, I, we still don't have any proof or evidence
32:05
on Mullins with anything. You know, nobody's come out and
32:08
brought anything concrete on him.
32:11
It's all. But I mean, even though we are,
32:12
everybody knows he was a dirtbag.
32:14
I mean, everybody just knows it. And around here, and I say I use
32:20
that word because it's been used to me so many times by so many
32:24
different people. That's not my word.
32:27
That's what community members have said to me.
32:30
You know, Yeah, we don't think that what Mickey did was right.
32:34
But you know, regardless of whether there's proof out there
32:38
on the judge or not, he was still a dirtbag and everybody
32:41
knows it. Well, people reach out to me and
32:45
they will say stuff like I've seen the video that like Sabrina
32:52
Adkins talks about in her proffer.
32:54
There's that. There's video proof of Judge
32:56
Mullins having sex in his chambers with a woman from the
33:00
jail, right? That's, that's the implication.
33:04
And people will say I've seen the video.
33:06
OK, do you have the video? Well, no, when did you see it?
33:13
And, and they become really, really defensive.
33:15
And I'm just asking basic reporter questions, right?
33:18
Like, OK, I've got my skeptical hat on.
33:21
I, I don't, my skeptical hat is, is on my lamp right there.
33:24
But I'm putting on my skeptical hat and like a couple of them
33:29
have said, hey, this video is coming out.
33:31
And I would say, have you seen it?
33:33
Well, no, I haven't seen it, but I know it exists.
33:35
Well, how do you know it exists? And so for I don't know, I don't
33:40
know how many people I've talked to, texted, actually talked on
33:44
the phone with, in this case, probably probably more than a
33:47
dozen. That all says, yeah, the video
33:50
is there and it's going to come out.
33:52
Oh, have you seen it? No.
33:53
Or yes, I have. OK.
33:55
Can you provide it to me? I just really can't do that, you
33:58
know? So I don't know that the video
34:02
really exists. Exactly.
34:04
Fish. Exactly.
34:07
So, you know, I, I found myself, you know, through experience,
34:14
trial and error, I found myself on the backside of eating that
34:23
hook, line and sinker, right? And then get on the other side
34:30
of it and start seeing, OK, well, some of this stuff ain't
34:35
lining up. You know, some of this ain't
34:40
panning out once you start digging, right?
34:45
And people will feed you something very convincingly,
34:50
right? Yes.
34:51
And then you go spend 3 hours researching and digging on this
34:57
thing and then find out, oh, you know, really mistaken.
35:06
You know, there you can see where they, they see or you can
35:11
kind of see once you do the research and get in there and
35:14
dig, you can kind of see why they think that they why they
35:19
think what they do. But here's what has boiled down.
35:26
This is what I have deducted from a situation, one specific
35:31
situation I'm thinking of. You know, a lot of times people
35:37
don't know what all comes with stability.
35:42
Like they don't, they think, Oh my parent, my dad was a
35:46
millionaire, you know, my dad was a drug dealer, he was a big
35:49
time drug dealer. So I know he had millions in the
35:52
bank, you know, I know he did. He had to have.
35:56
Well then you go, you find like 5 bankruptcies, you know, and
36:02
there everybody in town had been suing them in small claims
36:06
court. You know, they don't have as
36:09
much. Nobody's got that kind of money.
36:11
You know, I don't care what kind of drug dealer you are, they're
36:13
not wealthy. Drug dealers are not wealthy.
36:17
I mean, you might, we call them mommy used to call it holler
36:21
poor holler rich. You know, you get holler rich
36:24
like the Beverly Hillbillies, you know, and then you don't
36:29
have you get a big bunch of money and you just blow it and
36:34
you don't use it and invest it and do something with it that
36:39
will make more money. You know how many people got big
36:43
settlements, black lung settlements and stuff like that
36:46
around here? Great big chunks of money and
36:50
it's gone. It's gone.
36:52
I mean, they might have bought them a double wide or, you know,
36:54
bought them a vehicle and family.
36:57
You got tons of family then that you're helping out.
37:00
Yeah. They come to you like this,
37:02
right? Yeah, and.
37:04
Addiction and then everybody wants to be a drug dealer.
37:08
Everybody thinks I'm going to take that money and I'm going to
37:11
buy this and I'm going to flip it.
37:14
And then I'm going to take that money and I'm going to go get
37:17
another and then I'm going to flip it.
37:19
And then, you know, and that is how that's the kind of business
37:24
minds that you have here, because you don't have
37:27
education, you don't have people who are educated, you know, you.
37:31
And it doesn't even matter if they are educated.
37:34
Look at me. Look at me.
37:37
I had a master's degree and couldn't do a damn thing with it
37:39
because of who I was or who I wasn't, you know, And so I'm not
37:46
the only one. Back in the 80s and the 90s,
37:50
this place was packed. You couldn't go to the football
37:55
field in neon and it I mean, it was standing room only, cars jam
38:02
packed in there everywhere. I mean, take two hours to get
38:06
everybody cleared out, you know, I mean, it was, there was just
38:09
people everywhere. Now we can't even have a
38:12
football team at our school because we don't have enough
38:15
kids to play. Yeah.
38:18
You know, people have left and one of the other things like
38:22
this mess that I've had here in Jenkins, just like with my
38:27
neighbors and the cops, like they don't support taxpaying
38:34
good people that you know, you think, well, they're going to,
38:37
they've got a career they're going to be building.
38:40
You know, they're going to spend a lot of money here.
38:42
They're going to invest here. They're going to want to keep
38:44
their family here. They're going to, you know, you
38:46
want those kinds of people. Those are the kinds of people
38:48
that you want. No, they're back in the meth
38:52
dealers. They're out here supporting, you
38:54
know, the people that are taking over all of our property and you
39:00
know, they don't, they don't care.
39:02
They don't care. I mean, I've fought the chief of
39:05
police and the mayor over this mess here out behind me, took
39:09
over half my property, not just mine.
39:12
Now they're taking over what they took over the graveyard
39:15
back there across the Creek. And trust me, since I've started
39:20
my show, I cannot tell you how many people have reached out to
39:24
me over property thefts like, and they used the court to do it
39:29
like fraudulent deeds, people going and, and signing deeds
39:34
over forging signatures on them and people losing their property
39:39
because somebody forged something and took it up there.
39:43
And then nobody's got no money to hire an attorney.
39:47
And when your lawyer's in on it all, when your law, when your
39:51
own lawyer is in on it all. Now that's the kind of organized
39:56
crime that I'm talking about and I've been talking about.
40:00
And do you think Mullins was was part of that sort of stuff too?
40:03
I think they've all been in on it from as far back as you can
40:09
go. I I just like I said, I can't
40:12
even tell you how many stories that I've gotten that I've just
40:17
been sitting on, you know, I don't go tell them.
40:20
I don't put them on my show, you know, because you can't prove
40:24
none of it. You can't prove none of it.
40:28
Like one family that was here, this woman had adopted a, a son
40:36
and he moved away. He grew up, moved away.
40:41
Well, whenever the mom and her husband passed away, allegedly
40:48
the sister of the mom was just pissed off because her estate,
40:54
that was her sister's estate and no way should that adopted kid
40:59
get all of her sister's money. Well, it was told to me that
41:04
they went and gave a certain lawyer $500.
41:07
Now, this was way back 30 years ago.
41:09
This wasn't, you know, just recently.
41:11
So $500 thirty years ago was a lot of money and changed the
41:17
wheel and that boy didn't even know that he was in it, you
41:22
know, so he didn't know to contest it.
41:25
Didn't show up, so lost by default, right?
41:31
How many of those things you think have had has happened over
41:34
the years? You know, I mean, Jenny, my
41:40
friend is an attorney. So she know she and she's been
41:43
doing a whole lot of like federal work.
41:45
She's been doing a whole lot of other stuff.
41:48
And so she's kind of guided me and shown me how to look for
41:54
things and how to see things. And one of the things that I I
42:01
found through working with somebody else too, was there
42:05
were so many, so many cases in appeals, appeals cases that had
42:13
one particular judge and one particular lawyer in common,
42:18
over 100 cases in. Appeals.
42:21
And it was for summary judgments.
42:25
And so somebody would, this one particular lawyer would file
42:29
these cases asking for a summary judgment of, say, $8500, and
42:37
this judge would grant it, but he would grant 10,000.
42:43
I'm just using that as a number. I'm making it up as a, you know,
42:47
a fake example. He would grant it for and now
42:54
mind you, this person was, no, they were not even entitled to
42:59
this money. They, they were not entitled to
43:01
it to begin with, right. And which is one reason why
43:04
we're in appeals or why we're finding these in appeals.
43:08
And but the judge would grant it just grant a summary judgment
43:12
10,000 And so they would win it. Well, then the cases that we're
43:18
finding, they're not from people, individuals.
43:24
They're from hospitals. They're from insurance
43:26
companies. They're from other people who
43:31
have lawyers. Yeah, So they can afford to take
43:35
it. So how many of them didn't go to
43:37
appeal? Yeah.
43:39
So how many didn't go to appeal if we found over 100?
43:43
Wow. So I mean.
43:44
In this county. Just in Letcher County, this.
43:47
County with this one judge and this one attorney.
43:52
So before we finish off this conversation, because I want to
43:55
get to our last segment, which I think is going to be great.
44:02
What, what, what comes next in the Mickey Stein's prosecution?
44:06
I guess we got a bail hearing coming up sometime, but Kentucky
44:11
courts just have a real hard time.
44:13
Like I can't find anything scheduled.
44:16
I guess what, what what comes next?
44:19
I don't know if the Bartleys even, you know, I mean, I, of
44:25
course I, I don't talk to them, so I have no idea what they're
44:31
thinking or doing or of course, you know, but I think that they
44:36
know, they pretty much know they ain't nobody giving him a bomb.
44:40
Even if the judge says OK, I'm like, you know, I, I, well, the
44:46
one temporary judge, the female who was appointed for some one
44:53
of the days in the process, she was, she had said I made a
44:59
statement that she was, you know, she wasn't, she didn't
45:05
like not giving people a bond. You know, I, she didn't care
45:09
what they did. She just, she didn't think that
45:11
that was fair or let me take that back.
45:14
Not that she didn't care what they did.
45:16
She didn't say that, but you know what I'm saying, that she
45:22
doesn't think that anybody should not have a bond, whatever
45:26
it was she said to that effect. Well, she took a lot of heat for
45:31
that. I mean, people were outraged and
45:36
I think that she just didn't want to have to deal with that
45:40
after she saw how much people responded to it on both sides of
45:46
the fence. You know, you had people on both
45:48
sides of the fence that was responding to it and she didn't
45:52
even take it up. Then whenever she came back, she
45:55
was like, I think I'm going to let the trial judge deal with
45:58
this. She didn't even.
46:04
That's funny. OK, well, I guess we will find
46:07
out as it happens, right? OK, I've got a new segment right
46:14
now. Here's the deal with this
46:16
segment. It is called 3 Questions.
46:19
Before we begin the segment, these questions are for you.
46:22
Now, they typically come in from my viewers for me, but I have
46:27
kind of taken what some viewers have asked and I have
46:31
editorialized a little bit to point to you.
46:33
OK, so, so people who have asked those questions, I will.
46:39
I will answer them too eventually.
46:40
OK. But here's the deal.
46:43
I can't tell you what the question.
46:45
It could be about anything because nothing is off the
46:47
table. Everything is on the table.
46:49
And it's not necessarily about your channel true crime Kevin
46:54
Mullins It could be anything. But you have to solemnly promise
46:58
that you are game to answer any question that you get you in
47:04
truth or. Dare I'm truth all the way?
47:07
All right, here we go. It's three questions with Gavin
47:16
Finn, POW. OK, Elizabeth Jones, Let's
47:21
bring. I love.
47:22
That first question, here we go. You ready?
47:24
You like you like the production value there.
47:27
I do. I do.
47:28
Yeah. OK.
47:29
First question for Elizabeth Jones.
47:31
Hillbilly Crime, by the way, guys, if you have not subscribed
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OK. How many subscribers do you have
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47:55
So head on over there. Good.
47:56
OK, First question is what drives you to keep covering
47:59
stories even when pressure gets personal and local?
48:02
I know what you told me, that you're in a bit of a, what would
48:08
we call it, a scuffle, a tiff between yourself in the local
48:15
paper. Well, I don't know if it's If
48:21
so, why? What drives you to keep covering
48:24
stories even when the pressure gets personal and local?
48:27
Because I have to pay my bills and I have to have a job.
48:32
And I planned this two years before I ever started it.
48:39
This did not just pop up out of, you know, overnight.
48:47
So the the timing with the with the Kevin Mullins case was just.
48:51
God. Yeah, just all right, so.
48:55
He shot, he shot, he shot Kevin six days after I started my
49:00
first show. Wow, wow man.
49:07
So just kismet. There it was.
49:10
It was meant to be. And God has prepared me for this
49:16
all my life. All of the rejection, all of the
49:20
isolation, all of the disappointment, all of the
49:24
failure that I have had all my life, the last 15 years, my life
49:31
turned around. And so, you know, that prepared
49:38
me. I'm not easily broken.
49:42
And that prepared me for this. You know, like now when I see
49:47
him pull these moves that they think are just going to, you
49:50
know, I'm going to go out and put a, you know, that's what
49:55
they think I'm going to do. They're just going to destroy
49:57
me. Honey, I love it.
50:00
You bring it on. If that's the best you got, Come
50:03
on. That is, well, that's a good
50:05
attitude because I'll tell you what, in, in my life, the times
50:11
when I, I've had two pretty deep depressive episodes, I, I, I
50:18
wasn't clinically like diagnosed or anything, but two times where
50:21
I've gotten really down and it has been when I've gotten, I've
50:27
had to face failure, right? It's just been really tough.
50:31
And it seems like with you, that is the motivating factor, right?
50:37
Push. Push on through it.
50:39
Hey, you know what I just realized?
50:41
They're called hitching posts. That's what they're called
50:43
hitching posts. Sorry.
50:45
That one was not going to let. I wasn't going to let it go.
50:48
OK, What were you gonna say? I.
50:51
Don't remember that's. OK.
50:54
All right. Let's move on to the second
50:55
question because this is 3 I need to bring up guys any if you
50:59
want to ask three questions sometimes of me, sometimes of my
51:03
guest, e-mail them to three questions at gavinfish.com.
51:05
Three questions gavinfish.com. It's spelled out THR EE and and
51:10
I don't get all that many questions.
51:12
I think people are afraid to ask that.
51:15
They don't know it. It's still new.
51:17
You'll get more. Well, you know what one of the
51:19
questions was yesterday full on it was boxers or briefs.
51:24
I've I've had I've had one question that was what is the
51:28
appropriate quantity of lovemaking sessions a couple
51:31
should have in a week? What was the answer?
51:36
Depends. On how old you are, early you
51:41
newlywed because in that case like 50.
51:46
If you're my age, it's like 0. Yeah.
51:53
Do you have prostate cancer? Yeah.
51:55
Negative. All right, All right, question
51:57
#2 what is the most unexpectedly funny moment you have
52:03
experienced while And I? It says reporting, but I want
52:07
to, I want to follow your lead here.
52:09
You're not a reporter, but you are telling stories.
52:12
So what's the most unexpected funny moment you've experienced
52:15
while you've been telling a serious story?
52:19
Well, I still do it and I really should try not to, but I'll be
52:26
having a real serious story up. You know, we'll be watching
52:30
something, but at the same time I'm trying to go through my
52:33
comments, you know, and a lot of times our people are having
52:39
conversations that don't have anything to do They're.
52:44
Just chatting. Yeah.
52:45
Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
52:48
I mean, we have a real community just like you do.
52:51
I mean, I love it. I love it.
52:53
But I'll get over there into some of those comments, into
52:57
some of those conversations, those side conversations, and
53:00
I'll notice they're over there on the screen.
53:02
It's talking about all this serious stuff.
53:05
And I'm sitting here like grinning and laughing and going
53:09
on. I'm like, oh God, I bet.
53:10
Well, you're talking. I sometimes have to give the, I
53:14
have to give the disclosure to my audience that, hey, I take
53:18
crime serious, I take victims serious.
53:22
I take victims families very seriously.
53:24
I do not take life or myself seriously.
53:28
You got to laugh, man. You got to laugh.
53:30
And I have a. Kind of an odd sense of humor.
53:33
Do you what? What is a give me an example of
53:37
like who is a comedian that speaks to you like that?
53:40
That will make you laugh. A comedian?
53:45
Well, Katt Williams, George Carlin.
53:49
Oh, I see. OK, yeah, you kind of kind of
53:52
the brainy stuff. Yeah, yeah.
53:55
Good stuff all. Right, I really like George
53:58
Carlin. I like Carlin too.
54:00
I like Carlin. He he seemed he was a he was an
54:05
astute. Well, I guess most comedians
54:07
are. He was just a very good observer
54:10
of the ridiculousness of the human condition, right?
54:14
Like he was. He was really good at that.
54:16
OK, third question. What is one thing that makes you
54:20
feel strong every time you do it?
54:24
What is one small thing that makes you feel strong every time
54:28
you do it? Oh, What is one small thing that
54:34
makes you feel strong? When I apologize, when I admit.
54:42
When I admit I'm wrong. Yeah.
54:46
Because every time I do, I feel, I can feel that, you know, I I
54:50
feel that strength when I do it. But you don't feel it unless you
54:56
do it. It's a hard thing to do.
55:00
It is a difficult thing to do it.
55:02
It gets easier with practice. It does like the other day.
55:07
Yeah, Sorry, go ahead. No.
55:09
Go ahead. The other day I'd kind of got
55:12
into it with another mom over our kids.
55:16
Our kids were fussing with each other.
55:20
And I came, I didn't know his mom, you know, or nothing.
55:26
But I kind of, I came in on 10 and she came in on one and I
55:35
stayed at 10 and she stayed at 1:00.
55:40
And I was like, what's going on here?
55:45
Because I, I, I've experienced so many people that I thought
55:51
were my friends, but obviously they weren't ever my friends.
55:56
But they chose the Matt Butler ultimatum.
56:00
They chose him and not me. And so I really, I don't know
56:07
who's friend or foe anymore sometimes.
56:09
So I walk around with the scowl just waiting, you know, in
56:14
defense mode because I don't know if you're going to smile at
56:18
me or if you're going to cuss me out.
56:20
But if you're going to cuss me out, I'm going to bark right
56:24
back. You know, I'm not going to take
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it. And you know, I told you I've
56:29
been to, I was chased around by the judge's wife and I barked
56:33
right back at her. It sure didn't go the way she
56:36
thought it was going to go. And oh, but, but Butler's wife,
56:41
honey, I bark right back at you. You know, it didn't go the way
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that she thought it was going to go either.
56:47
And you know I'll give you what you give me.
56:51
Well, what happened then with this, with this mom who gave you
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one out of 10? Oh.
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Well, I just, I had to me, I had, I came down to A5 and then
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I came down to a four and she just kept staying at 1:00.
57:06
And then I felt this big, you know, and I was like, I'm so
57:09
sorry, man. I am so sorry.
57:14
And I have respect that I've not had for many in this in my
57:21
entire life. I've got more respect for her.
57:25
And I don't even know her and I've not spoke to her since
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either. But you know still.
57:30
Yeah, that whole admitting that one is wrong as actually
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empowering because it allows you to kind of be self, it allows
57:40
you to be introspective to to kind of I call them personal
57:44
inventories. I do them every week, every
57:46
Sunday I do an inventory of myself.
57:48
How did this week go? How did I do and you know what I
57:52
I give myself out of boys when I feel like I really did a good
57:55
job and and I lash myself. I give myself mental, you know,
57:59
flagellation when I when I feel like I've done poorly.
58:04
I'm not like I'm not down on myself.
58:07
I mean, you got to extend grace to yourself too, but when you
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recognize the, the, the times that you have fallen short and
58:15
if you're able to apologize for those things and make those
58:18
things right, it really is self healing, right?
58:20
It really does. It does help.
58:23
You know something else I did last night?
58:27
I sat down and I took all of my analytics for which me and you
58:36
need to have a talk soon, hopefully after this show if you
58:40
have a few minutes. Yeah, I got it.
58:42
Before mine so I don't and I don't have mine scheduled yet so
58:46
it's OK, we can talk for as long as we need to.
58:49
But I took all my analytics and I put them into my ChatGPT and
58:58
you know, I've been using ChatGPT for the whole time that
59:02
I have been working on my show, but I've been using it to like
59:09
teach, show me how to how to do this Shopify, like it helped me
59:13
build my my merch store. It helped me connect everything.
59:17
Like I didn't know the, the, you know, the just the computer
59:22
stuff, you know, you have to connect this to that and you
59:25
have to do this. And I just didn't know any of
59:28
it. And so that's what I used my
59:30
ChatGPT for, right, was to help me get all of this going.
59:34
And you have to know what to ask it to do.
59:39
That is correct. The right questions, You have to
59:41
know how to prompt it to get what you need.
59:45
And if you're not asking the correct way, it's going to give
59:50
you an answer, but it's not going to give you the answer
59:54
that you really need if you don't know how to ask.
59:59
And so I've just through trial and error and experience usage
1:00:04
practice, I've been putting all this together.
1:00:07
Well, I never thought about doing that, using it for that
1:00:12
yet. And I, I followed your lead.
1:00:15
I asked you if you paid for it. And you were like, yeah, I use
1:00:20
it every day. And I was like, all right, I'm
1:00:23
going to do it. I'm going to do it.
1:00:24
So I pulled the trigger on it. And now I've got my Pro 2.
1:00:28
And I put all my analytics in it last night.
1:00:31
And honey, I tell you what, you just, I had no idea that I had
1:00:39
accomplished as much as what I had.
1:00:44
Like one of my boy's friends came in today and he's like, you
1:00:47
got 26,000. He's like Mr. Beast didn't even
1:00:51
have that in his first year. And I was like.
1:00:54
What? And he was like, yeah, Mr. Beast
1:00:57
only had like 8000, his first year.
1:01:00
You're like 12 year old kids, right?
1:01:02
And they know all of this stuff. And so I'm really trying to, but
1:01:11
I've really, honey, I'm learning, I'm learning more than
1:01:19
and I have it on just on my Facebook in the last week.
1:01:24
I've just from, from tweaking things here and there and using
1:01:30
my ChatGPT and, and asking it to help me figure out how to do
1:01:34
this and how to do that and how to do this.
1:01:37
I have made more money this week on Facebook than I have in the
1:01:43
last six months. Wow.
1:01:46
Well, I, I don't mean to brag here, Elizabeth, but on Facebook
1:01:50
last month, yeah, I made like 15 bucks.
1:01:54
Well, that's what I wanted to talk to you about because I
1:01:56
figured it out, Gavin. OK, well, let me wrap up the
1:01:59
show real quick. Thank you very much for joining
1:02:01
me. I really appreciate it.
1:02:04
And we can go talk about money, yeah.
1:02:07
We're going to wrap up the show. Hey, guys, real quick.
1:02:09
Let me get to the right. Say goodbye, Elizabeth.
1:02:13
We'll see you. Everybody's going to go check
1:02:15
you out about 7:30. OK, give me just one second
1:02:18
here. All right, guys, big thanks to
1:02:20
Elizabeth Jones from from Hillbilly Crime for joining
1:02:24
today. She's always game.
1:02:26
Every time I ask she she comes on and it's and she's just
1:02:31
amazing real quick. Remember that you can find me on
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She's doing a really good job, so always remember that.
1:03:01
And then I think that's all I got for you.
1:03:04
So of course, I take the weekend off.
1:03:07
I'd like to like to rest and relax a little bit.
1:03:10
But we'll be back Monday, 6:00 PM Eastern right here on this
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channel. And I hope to see you then.
1:03:17
Until then, I bid you, I do, and I'll see you next time.
1:03:21
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