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- 0:01Today on the podcast, we don't have any topic in particular.
- 0:05It's just going to be a set of random topics because I
- 0:09responded to some people who called in on the radio show on
- 0:13the 11th of December 2025. And let's see, OK, we discussed
- 0:19a couple of things LinkedIn related, Let's see what else.
- 0:25OK, I think was mostly LinkedIn. So anyway, let's just get
- 0:29straight into it. Like I said today round on my
- 0:31episode, and this is just me addressing some people who
- 0:34called in on my radio show on the 11th of December in 2025.
- 0:40Now, this is your first time of listening to the podcast.
- 0:43My name is Tavi Shima Ayeri, I am a former lawyer turned
- 0:47business consultant. And yes, I also have a radio
- 0:50show on the regular airwaves. It's on Radio Maria, 91.3 FM.
- 0:55And once in a while I come over here on the podcast and I talk
- 0:59about some of the good stuff that we discussed over on the
- 1:01radio because as far as I know, well, there's this one guy in
- 1:05Abuja who listens to the podcast and also listens to the radio
- 1:07show. But for the rest of you, because
- 1:11we have over 3500 subscribers currently on Spotify, I just
- 1:16come over here and let you guys know that hey, last night I was
- 1:19on the air. I spoke to a bunch of folks, got
- 1:22some interesting stuff. This is what we spoke about.
- 1:26Now if you like these sorts of things, you're looking for a
- 1:31business, you're looking for business content where we talk
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- 1:45Then if you'd love to connect with me, you can call, send me a
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- 1:57So that particular evening on the 11th of December 2025, four
- 2:04guys called in four chaps. First guy was Alex from
- 2:07Wagwanada. So for those of you who listen
- 2:10to the podcast, you know that that's like my my old hood
- 2:13because I went to Christ the King College in Wagwalada in
- 2:17Abuja LCT. So that's where I did my junior
- 2:20secondary school and we were the second set.
- 2:23So the pioneer set was I can't remember what.
- 2:26Yeah. So we came in after the pioneer
- 2:29set. So just in case you know,
- 2:30anybody who went to wax Wagwalada pioneer set or the
- 2:35second set, you know, those are definitely my guys.
- 2:37You just tell them, you know, you came across Tavis podcast.
- 2:41Don't say Tavis because they all know you know me as Tavisima.
- 2:45So just so you came across Tarvis podcast was your
- 2:47classmates, you know? Yeah, those are my guys.
- 2:50So Alex from Guevara, of course, not my classmate.
- 2:56Now Alex called in. OK, No, he didn't call in.
- 2:58He sent a message asking if LinkedIn is a place where sales
- 3:03and business is made easy. Let me repeat, if I like it when
- 3:08people ask this kind of question.
- 3:09He asked me whether LinkedIn is a place where sales and business
- 3:15can be made easily. I like asking all answering all
- 3:20these kind of questions. The reason why I was asking was
- 3:24because on that particular day, what we were discussing was
- 3:26this. There was someone who had called
- 3:28in the week before who was in the business of selling software
- 3:33solutions for sales analytics, customer analysis and financial
- 3:39analysis, financial reporting, all those sorts of things.
- 3:42And the person wanted to know how to sell his services.
- 3:47Now in discussing that guy's matter, we now discussed how
- 3:51that guy should be on LinkedIn because there are lots of you in
- 3:55Nigeria, especially people who want to advance their career or
- 3:58people who sell services who are not on LinkedIn.
- 4:01In fact, some people have not even heard of LinkedIn.
- 4:06The first time I came across like I just assumed everybody
- 4:11knew what LinkedIn was because last year that was 20/20/24.
- 4:17In 2024, I got to speak at a conference that was put together
- 4:21by NBCNBC. That's Nigerian bottling company
- 4:25that the people who own the franchise for Coca, Coca-Cola,
- 4:28Fanta, you know, all those things.
- 4:30And you know, the head offices in, you know, in Lagos, in
- 4:33Aggadingbi, for those of us who used to live in Ikeja, I know I
- 4:37don't pronounce the name correctly, but you know, forgive
- 4:39me, I, it's just one of those things, you know, you move to a
- 4:43location, you don't quite learn all the words correctly.
- 4:46So the excuse in Lagos. So NBC, you know, I know them
- 4:50now 'cause you always drive past going to church, you drive past,
- 4:54coming back from school, you drive past.
- 4:56So the conference was put together by the NBC Nigerian
- 4:59Bottling Conference. And it was about how you can use
- 5:01artificial intelligence to build your career or build your
- 5:04business. And this was a program that was
- 5:06aimed at youth between the ages of 18 to 35.
- 5:09And I was one of the speakers and we spoke last me and my Co
- 5:15how I say Co compare Abby Abby Co anchor so as well this thing
- 5:19now as one guy asked me that how do I open linked?
- 5:24I shock I said the guy said how do I open linked.
- 5:28That was the first time I heard and for the rest of the
- 5:31afternoon people are calling this thing linked as in they
- 5:35have never heard of it before. Do asking me what is linked?
- 5:40How do you open Linked, How do you use linked?
- 5:42I had to keep saying and saying and saying that evening I'm
- 5:47stressing it and it's LinkedIn, LinkedIn, LinkedIn but still do
- 5:51asking me of linked. It was then I knew that there
- 5:54are lots of Nigerians who do not know about LinkedIn and who are
- 5:57not on LinkedIn even though they want to grow their career or
- 6:01they want to grow their service based business.
- 6:04When I say service based business, I mean you know those
- 6:08of us that sit inside office, you know lawyer, accountant,
- 6:12doctor, geologist, what else? OK, geologist also has the go to
- 6:17field. But you know someone, I'm saying
- 6:19Shah, you're selling yourself is not selling a product.
- 6:22So there are also Nigerians who are not on LinkedIn who are not
- 6:25aware of LinkedIn. So I was now telling that guy,
- 6:30the one who sells software solutions for financial
- 6:34analysis, customer analysis and sales analytics.
- 6:39I was telling the guide, I look you guys to be on LinkedIn.
- 6:43So because we spent like 30 minutes talking about LinkedIn
- 6:46on the radio. That's why this guy Alex that
- 6:50sent a message saying how far this LinkedIn that you guys are
- 6:53talking about, can we make sales and business easy on that
- 6:57platform? And that's why I love this
- 6:59question. I love this question because
- 7:02there are too many of you who are looking for an easy
- 7:04solution. Can we just stop this thing?
- 7:09Think about it? Remember that song Since I was
- 7:12born and now I am old, You've been on this earth already,
- 7:183040, fifty years. If there was an easy way, you
- 7:21don't think you would have heard about it.
- 7:25And if there was an easy way, you don't think somebody would
- 7:27have already tapped in on it? You don't think you would have
- 7:31seen it? You've been alive for a while.
- 7:35If there was an easy way, you would have discovered it by now.
- 7:41There is no easy way. So let's stop this thinking.
- 7:43Please. Let's stop looking for this
- 7:46magic platform. It's not there does not exist.
- 7:51There's none. Now.
- 7:54This is the reason why the reason why there's no magic
- 7:57platform where sales and business can be made easy is
- 8:03because no matter the format that exists or the platform or
- 8:08the app or the website, it will require two things of you #1
- 8:12optimization and then #2 proper participation.
- 8:17Optimization means make your profile sweet, make your profile
- 8:23attractive. Give the information that people
- 8:28need when they come across your profile so they can quickly
- 8:31decipher who you are, what you do, how you can help, how they
- 8:37can connect with you. That is step one.
- 8:42And unfortunately, too many Nigerians on platforms are not
- 8:46even optimizing those platforms. There are people who open their
- 8:51WhatsApp business profile, but then on your name, you just
- 8:55leave it as a Janet Ezekiel and then you don't put anything
- 8:59again and you wonder why business is growing.
- 9:00It's not growing like who is Janet Ezekiel?
- 9:04What do you do? Do you sell soap?
- 9:07Do you sell perfume? Are you a beauty skin care
- 9:09therapist? Are you an accountant?
- 9:12Are you a geologist? Are you an architect?
- 9:16You just open WhatsApp business and you just put your name
- 9:19there, nothing else. How is WhatsApp business
- 9:23supposed to make business easy and smooth for you?
- 9:27Same thing with LinkedIn. People open a LinkedIn profile
- 9:30and you put nothing there. You just put your name, profile
- 9:33picture blank, educational history bank blank, professional
- 9:36background blank. Are you looking to connect
- 9:39blank. Are you looking to grow a
- 9:41business blank. Interests blank.
- 9:44Hobbies blank as in Mt What do you expect?
- 9:53Believe me, this happens a lot. It was I'm struggling with
- 9:56Instagram. I said, well, let me see your
- 9:57Instagram handle. I look at Instagram Hamilton and
- 9:59I say no wonder you're a business owner.
- 10:02But then your Instagram handle is, you know, Jeremiah 436.
- 10:05Like, who do you think wants to do business with Jeremiah 436?
- 10:10Who then the account has been open for six years and then you
- 10:15only put 5 posts. Does that inspire confidence in
- 10:20anybody? So truly, truly, I say on to the
- 10:26even if LinkedIn was that platform where sales and
- 10:29business can be made easy, the fact that most of you will go
- 10:35there and optimize your profile like you forget it won't work
- 10:39for you. You work for everybody else, but
- 10:41don't work for you because you're not even bothering to
- 10:43optimize your profile. Same thing.
- 10:47Google My Business. Have you gone to go and claim
- 10:50your business page? Have you updated it?
- 10:53Have you put some pictures of projects that you finished
- 10:55recently? Have you put up your opening
- 10:56hours? Did you put your website there?
- 10:59Did you put your office address there so that if somebody
- 11:01friends you on Google My Business, they can click through
- 11:05and then LinkedIn can. Sorry, I say LinkedIn, Google
- 11:08Maps can take them directly to your store.
- 11:12Did you put your WhatsApp business number there?
- 11:17Did you put a nice sweet description of who you are and
- 11:20what you do? So LinkedIn is not a magic
- 11:26platform. Yes, it'll be sweet for you if
- 11:28you're trying to improve your career or try to sell your
- 11:31services, but if you don't optimize the profile, you're not
- 11:37ready. You haven't started work yet.
- 11:40Then proper participation. Now, this is what I mean by
- 11:43proper participation. I just made-up that word.
- 11:45Every single social media platform, you get your own
- 11:48culture, they'll have their own vibe.
- 11:53When you're on Tiktok, you are your authentic self, vibes,
- 11:57phone, authentic self. When you are on Instagram,
- 12:02you're living your best life, a polished version of your life.
- 12:05Because we're all trying to form on Instagram.
- 12:09So on Instagram continue to deform.
- 12:12Then when you are on Facebook, Facebook now is mostly a
- 12:17connection or something like no need to form really.
- 12:20When you want to talk to grammar, you go to Facebook.
- 12:22When you want to talk to your uncles and aunties, you go to
- 12:24Facebook. For those of us who are nephews
- 12:26and nieces are abroad, that's your nephews and nieces are old
- 12:30because I hear that the younger ones now that's Snapchat.
- 12:32And so so that kind of thing, classmates, you know, Facebook,
- 12:40but therefore LinkedIn, everybody is in a business
- 12:43mindset, career mindset. So you cannot take TikTok
- 12:48behavior and exhibit it on LinkedIn.
- 12:51You cannot take LinkedIn behavior and exhibit it on
- 12:54Facebook. You cannot take Facebook
- 12:56behavior and start to use Facebook behavior on WhatsApp.
- 13:00So play well and some of you have created the LinkedIn
- 13:06profile and you haven't come to play the way that people play on
- 13:09the platform. So you're on LinkedIn.
- 13:11What you're putting pictures of your best life, showing your
- 13:14face up and down. I'm glad to show that I just
- 13:16recently been promoted. My children have graduated first
- 13:19class. I bought a brand new car like
- 13:23OK, all that is good for Instagram, but that's not what
- 13:28we do on LinkedIn. It's a professional networking
- 13:33platform. So your children graduated first
- 13:35class, God has been good to you. And so how does that help you to
- 13:39connect with people on the platform?
- 13:43So this is the reason why even if tomorrow LinkedIn becomes the
- 13:49place where money is being minted in dollars, some of you
- 13:52won't get it because you will not optimize your profile and
- 13:56you will not play on the platform the way you're supposed
- 13:59to play. So no, LinkedIn is not that
- 14:07place where sales and business comes easy.
- 14:09But yes, it is different because people are there to advance
- 14:11their career or to sell their services.
- 14:15So optimize your profile, whatever it is that you play and
- 14:18make sure you learn the rules of the game and start playing
- 14:20accordingly. Then you can start reaping the
- 14:23benefits. That, my dear friends, is the
- 14:25reason why I got off TikTok because I go there, I'm talking
- 14:32business content, you know, sharp, sharp, quick, quick
- 14:35video. And it's not necessarily at
- 14:39least while I was on TikTok, like I don't know, maybe 2-3
- 14:43years ago, that was not the reason why people are on TikTok.
- 14:46So yes, I have that one video, I got like 10,000 views.
- 14:51But apart from that, people are not really on TikTok for this
- 14:54kind of thing. So even if people were minting
- 14:58dollars on TikTok because I was on TikTok in the wrong way,
- 15:03there was no how I was going to make that platform work.
- 15:05If I go back to TikTok, I need to make one or two changes and
- 15:10get back in vibe, get with the original vibe, get with the
- 15:14program for the platform. Then I can now join people and
- 15:17be meeting dollars from the platform.
- 15:22So is LinkedIn different? Yes, because the focus is
- 15:25business and career. Because of that, that is the
- 15:28reason why I keep saying it with my full chest.
- 15:31It is good for networking. Excuse me?
- 15:33It is good for business conversations.
- 15:37So with some creativity, we can make it work.
- 15:41Another caller on the show was Rinzi.
- 15:44Rinzi was a spare part dealer. This is the example that I gave
- 15:48Rinzi. You can open a LinkedIn profile,
- 15:51optimize it, put your face there, or put your company logo
- 15:54there in the description. Make sure you describe, be clear
- 15:57that you are an auto parts dealer.
- 16:00It doesn't matter that you sell spare parts.
- 16:02I think we can make it work. Then the content you'll be
- 16:08putting out, Mr. Rinzi, will be things around car maintenance,
- 16:14you know, whether maintenance or replacement, you know, auto
- 16:18care, what else, things like that.
- 16:20This is kind of content that you put out once in a while.
- 16:23You put up when you have info, you put up info on, you know,
- 16:26your promos or your discounts or new items that you have in
- 16:30stores and things like that. Then once in a while you will
- 16:35find opportunities to slide into people's DM because on LinkedIn,
- 16:39you know, people put it, oh, business expansion or something,
- 16:41something just acquired a new car fleet.
- 16:44So somebody now who is like arranged, you can sign into the
- 16:47person's DMS, congratulations, just so you acquired a new
- 16:51fleet. Congratulations, business is
- 16:53growing. You have some details about the
- 16:55fleet. It's not a bad thing.
- 16:57It's not a scene to not ask like, oh, OK, what plans do they
- 17:00have for fleet management? Some people say, oh, fleet
- 17:02management, we have that covered.
- 17:04Some people say fleet management.
- 17:05What is that? I've never heard of that.
- 17:08You now start talking about fleet management and fleet
- 17:10maintenance and that's how your services will come in because
- 17:13you're a part dealer. So I know that for those of you
- 17:18who are in the handiwork level, handiwork trades, you might not
- 17:23think LinkedIn immediately, but you know, sales is trial and
- 17:27error. Let's try like me, I tried
- 17:30LinkedIn, so I know LinkedIn, TikTok.
- 17:32I tried TikTok before I left TikTok.
- 17:36So you try some things pop off some things don't.
- 17:40So TikTok didn't work for me. I left Instagram was too much of
- 17:44a headache. I left Facebook one useless guy
- 17:49hacked me. I shut down the account I left
- 17:51LinkedIn seems to be working on OK I've stayed I'm still there
- 17:57so trial and error. So try and we see then.
- 18:06So just in case I've not made it clear, let me say it again.
- 18:11Should you be on LinkedIn? You listening to the podcast
- 18:13episode right now? If you're trying to build your
- 18:16career, I think you should be there.
- 18:19If you sell services, I think you should be there.
- 18:23I really think you should be there.
- 18:26Some of you who sell products, it might work.
- 18:29We can, you know, like I said, I've given you a plan for how
- 18:32like Irinzi might be able to make it work.
- 18:38But anyway, let me leave you there, Chuck.
- 18:41Those of you who want to be promoted, go to LinkedIn.
- 18:45Those of you who have services beyond LinkedIn, for those of
- 18:48you who have, you know, products for sale, you know, I don't
- 18:50know, hit me up. That's the reason why I give my
- 18:52phone number. Let's look at this thing on a
- 18:54case by case basis. Let's see who we can work for,
- 18:56who we can work for, or just check AI and ask AI and see what
- 19:01AI says, whether you stand a shot if you sell.
- 19:05OK, let's say you sell beauty skin care, for instance, let's
- 19:07say you sell bleaching cream. You know, go on AI and ask it
- 19:10and see how you can use LinkedIn to grow your business.
- 19:14You never know, there might be some useful ideas there.
- 19:19OK, so second caller now arrange a spare part dealer, but I can't
- 19:23remember the question that he had.
- 19:25So basically I just wrote him, you know, thanks for calling.
- 19:29Then let's see. OK, for that, another guy who
- 19:32wanted to get in touch with me. Let's see.
- 19:36Well, who else? OK, Kukui, another guy.
- 19:38Kukui called. OK, Kukui reached out because he
- 19:41wants to collaborate. So me and the guy were already
- 19:45chatting. So.
- 19:47Yeah. Anyway, that is all.
- 19:50So yeah, those are some of the calling people on the show.
- 19:54And OK, I think that's the only issue.
- 19:56Just this LinkedIn matter. Yeah, so I just said let me come
- 19:59over here. I share that LinkedIn thing with
- 20:02you real quick. Well, summary, please.
- 20:04Let's stop looking for magic platforms.
- 20:06It doesn't matter the platform, you will have to optimize.
- 20:10And you will have to take part according to the rules,
- 20:14according to the culture of the platform.
- 20:17So stop looking at what is hot. Just ask yourself what is there.
- 20:23Then, within reason, try and figure out if you think you can
- 20:28make it happen. And then trial and error, you
- 20:31try. Go and taste.
- 20:34They say taste and see that the Lord is good.
- 20:36Go and taste. So I'm tasting.
- 20:38You will know whether this thing works for me or it doesn't work.
- 20:42Or you can ask people who you see who are popping, who are
- 20:44rocking it. Like back when I was an event
- 20:48photographer, I wasn't good on Instagram online.
- 20:52My Instagram game was weak. But it didn't stop me from
- 20:56talking to other people who are rocking Instagram because there
- 20:59were people who are making good money on Instagram.
- 21:02In fact, there was this lady, let me not call her name.
- 21:06She, she's in decor space, she was doing work, Lagos and Abuja
- 21:12wedding and corporate and Instagram was the only thing she
- 21:17had no website. Well, of course she was not very
- 21:21helpful because I asked her like how do you do it?
- 21:24She says, I don't know, I just post.
- 21:27It's unfortunate. You know, some people are good
- 21:29at the game, but if you ask them break it down, they can't really
- 21:32break it down for you because some people just do it and
- 21:35they're good, but they can't tell you how or they can't tell
- 21:38you why. So I was now looking at our
- 21:39posts and now trying to reverse engineer to see how I could be
- 21:44good on Instagram as well. Anyway, I've said everything I
- 21:49need to say. No need to keep you guys longer.
- 21:52So that's it, that's all. I'll catch you guys at some
- 21:55other time and if you'd love to connect with me, you can call,
- 21:58send me a text message or a WhatsApp message on 08064
- 22:03662140. Again, sorry about the noise in
- 22:07the background made today's recording at home, kids at home,
- 22:10wifey is home, you know, holiday period X mass in the air.
- 22:13You understand now? So yeah, that's it.
- 22:16I'll catch you guys.