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Jalen Hurts & The Price of Greatness: When Sports Take Over Your Life | S2 E6 · Off the Bench - London

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What up? What up, what up, what up? How you doing?
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Good. It's been a busy week. It's always a busy
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week. I don't know. It's weird because I didn't
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have to watch the Bengals this week. That must
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be refreshing for you. Yes and no. I really enjoy
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watching them as angry as it makes me sometimes.
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Okay, okay. It just feels like when your team
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has a bye week, you just pay a little bit less
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attention because you're just like, oh, I can
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relax. My team's not playing. I get you. It's
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kind of weird that way. Even though, regardless,
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I'm in four fantasy leagues. Man, talking about
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fantasy, I've done... Just finished the NBA draft.
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Yeah, I know. I couldn't do that because it's
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too busy. Understandable. I had too much stuff
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going on. It was... How long was it this year?
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How long? An hour. Only an hour? Yes. Wow. Everyone
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understood what was going on. This year. So before
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last year when we had the NBA draft, you had
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$1 ,000 as your purse. I only made it $250. Which
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is better. Which sped things up because you only
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had so much money to... Well, this and I'm sure
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this year everyone actually understood the rules.
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Yep. Because I remember last year, everything
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was like jumbling around right before the draft.
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And everyone's like, I have no idea what's going
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on. And now you just change it to an auction
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draft. And I don't know what anything is worth.
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I think moving forward for a lot of my leagues,
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it's going to be auction drafts. Yeah. Because
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I think it will one auction draft changes the
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dynamics of a draft and a heartbeat. Like you
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got to think instead of automatically picking
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this person, it's like, how bad do you want that
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person? Because now the level field is the same.
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You're that desperate. Perfect. I'm going to
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say I want this person, but I'm not going to
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bid on them or put them in the auction right
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away. I'll wait until everyone else works their
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way into it. And then once I know everyone's
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money's going down, I'll put it in and get the
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actual value. So like for football, that would
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be fantastic. See, and that's why I had to bail
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on the... Because I have not followed enough
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basketball in the offseason. There's so much
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going on in basketball, though. I know there's
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so much going on. I'm like, I can't... This is
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my opinion, and obviously it doesn't really matter.
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There was a lot of movement this year. This is
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going to be one of the best NBA seasons in a
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long time. I'm looking forward to watching it
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and not having to think about... I get you. I
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get you. I get to watch it as a legitimate...
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Just like, I'm watching a game. For me now, I'm
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watching it now hoping that... My picks are right
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because of the scope of everything. Who's your
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big pick? My biggest pick? Yeah. I'm going to
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be honest. Anthony Edwards. I love Anthony Edwards.
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He has such a good attitude. Here's my dynamic.
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So it's Anthony Edwards and Donovan Mitchell.
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Yeah. Right? So those are my one -two punches.
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And then I had to fix and jumble the team a little
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bit. So there's a few players that I was like,
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I don't know if I really would like this. But
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overall, it came down to... Obviously, Anthony
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Edwards, Donovan Mitchell, Jalen Williams from
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OKC, right? He's their shooter. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Obviously, SGA gets the fouls and gets the free
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throws. When he doesn't get the fouls, he's going
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to kick it out to somebody and someone has to
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make a shot. It's going to be interesting to
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see how much they change this year. I want to
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see if the refs step it up a little bit because
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last year that was kind of the theme that we
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were like, you know, SGA. Yeah, he's just a free
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throw merchant. It was playing to the refs. It
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was like, why can't those refs? be in the NFL.
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It's like, oh, wait, they are. I think it's interesting
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that it kind of goes in waves. Sure. Remember
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when Harden was big? Yep. It was the same thing.
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Yep. Yep. And then eventually they figured out
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exactly what he's doing. Oh, for sure. And then
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they're like, well, that's not fouling or that's
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still a foul. But like another great one is like
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I got is Pascal Siakam. Spice P. Spice P. I got
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LeBron James. Oh, there you go. LeBron James.
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I got Jalen Duran. Rudy Gobert, D 'Angelo Russell,
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Fred Van Vliet, Dan Fox, Stephan Castle, and
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Zion Williams. This year's theme, and if you're
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in my league, you know. Your team would have
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been sick five years ago. Big men is the big
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thing because you get extra points for rebounds.
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You get extra points for blocks. Points itself
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are good, but overall. So it's points, not categories?
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Yeah, but it's still in that. locked position,
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so whoever generates the most points, I think
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Sleeper has done an amazing job. I like that.
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Because that changed the game completely. It
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changed your mentality. That made it so it's
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like, okay, I can just look at the highlights
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like, oh, they had an amazing game. Perfect.
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Lock it in. Do I think they can repeat? Or are
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they going to be too tired? You know what I mean?
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But that plays really well for the older players.
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LeBron, or the guys that don't play every single
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game. Exactly. Exactly. You knew you were getting
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a really good game from one of them at some point
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during the week. You just didn't know when. So
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then you had to gamble. Exactly. But when it
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used to be just adds all their scores up, the
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guy that plays four games in one week versus
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the guy that plays one game is regardless of
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if he's a bench player, he might beat the...
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all -star that only plays once true so this is
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what i'm saying sleeper get on hockey so then
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i can officially drop yahoo like if yahoo or
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sorry if sleeper can establish themselves with
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a hockey version of lock -in i'm done with yahoo
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deleting no more emails no more nothing i am
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done i'll have my guillotine league i have my
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football league i'll have my if they do baseball
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cool maybe i'll get into baseball But I just
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want one platform for everything, except for
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Monster League. Monster League, I still have
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to have. Shout out to Monster League. But those
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are the things that I'm like, I'm really itching
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for. And I need it to happen. If I'm done with
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Yahoo. Yahoo, I'm done. I'm done. I am done.
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We are not getting sponsored by Yahoo. I do not
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care. Actually, on second thought, if they do
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ask, we'll switch back. We might switch back.
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But if they don't ask at all, they're gone. I'm
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done. I'm done. unless they start mimicking mimicking
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a sleeper and how it looks and how it feels and
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the updates it's just sleepers on another level
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well it's it's honestly it's the worst when you're
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in so I'm in four leagues in three different
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apps three different platforms it's a hassle
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for sure because like you can do certain things
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on one or I mean it helps you keep track of which
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team is which true I guess, kind of. But at the
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same time, when you have four different teams,
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you have so many different players. I have two
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teams that are almost entirely catastrophically
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injured. It sounds like your NBA team last year.
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Yeah. No wonder why you didn't want to come back
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this year. I mean, that's all partly my own fault
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because none of us really understood exactly
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how it was going to play out. And then I had
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someone else draft for me because I couldn't
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make it. Yes. What were you doing that day again?
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Working. Oh, yeah. All the time. Yes. We know
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this. Yes. Yes. Yeah, that's one thing I think
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everyone needs to focus on a little bit more.
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Not taking work and just throwing themselves
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in as much as we all do. It's true. It's true.
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Taking a step back. Because, well, what happened
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this weekend in the NFL? All right. So, okay,
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we're going to transition. Well, before we do
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that, Chris. Can I get a 9 -5, please? Thank
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you. You don't want a dolly? I'll take a dolly
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and a heartbeat. Yeah? Okay. If we're going to
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transition to this, we'll transition properly.
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Yes, please. Obviously, you and I are both wearing
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our quarterbacks. Yeah. I'm wearing them on the
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back. You're wearing them on the front. Yeah.
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Jalen Hurts, as reported, is out. He's gone for
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the season. Perfect. Thank you, sir. Appreciate
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you. So does this make him injury prone now?
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I'm just kidding. Is he overrated? Just asking
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the same questions. Okay. Okay. Okay. There's...
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Okay. I'm going to go into a monologue on this
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one. And it's going to be like... I'm here for
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it. I need you to work with me through this.
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Right? Because I'm going to take you on a journey.
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Because like... The way I view the Jalen Hurts
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being up for this... Do I need to close my eyes
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for this? You can close your eyes. You can even...
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You can continue working. You can do whatever
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you want, but you got to hear me through this.
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There is a level of being a fan of the Philadelphia
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Eagles that most fans will always go through.
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A lot of us as fans will always idolize Tom Brady
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for the reason of he brought a lot of fans to
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the Philadelphia Eagles. And most of those fans
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who are fans of the Eagles now that I'm talking
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about hate New England Patriots. They hate everything
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that... the concept of America's team is in New
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England now. You know what I mean? That brought
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a lot of people together. That brought a lot
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of respect to a lot of players that most people
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didn't think to have respect for the Philadelphia.
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So you're talking about when they took out the
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Patriots. In 2004, there was a level of camaraderie.
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Back then. Okay. I thought you were talking about
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the recent one. No. Commodity, there was a level
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of how everyone was working together. Injuries,
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there was no egos. Being a fan of the Eagles,
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you understood that injuries, you know, your
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head coach is going to try everything he does
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to get you over that hump. It was like that level
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of hope of being an Eagles fan. Especially when
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the Eagles never had a trophy. They never won.
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Yeah. Then you fast forward a little bit. Then
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you go through Carson Wentz and Doug Peterson
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and you see how... A head coach and a quarterback
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can hate each other and still produce, right?
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To the point where one person gets injured and
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we become the number one, but then we're the
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underdogs throughout the whole process. To the
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point where we finally win our first Super Bowl
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and your quarterback goes down. Then we fast
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forward to what Jalen Hurts and this Eagles vote.
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And it was very inspirational where... You took
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an A .J. Brown who no one talked about before.
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No one ever cared about always open A .J. Brown
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because he was always on close lips. And then
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the mix of Nick Sirianni, Jalen Hurts, A .J.
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Brown, and then Saquon Barkley just falls into
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her lap. You know what I mean? That dynamic was
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fantastic. It's always been like a nobody's bigger
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than the team. Exactly. And then you fast forward
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to this year where A .J. Brown gets traded to
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New England. Our whole team basically gets injured
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and there's only one individual who was holding
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the team together, which was Jalen Hurts. Even
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though the media during that whole entire time
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was trashing him. He can't get it done. It's
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Nick Sirianni's fault. It's this person. He's
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not elite. You know, if I look at Jalen Hurts,
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he's not a top 10 quarterback. And then you get
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the report that he's out for the season and that
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before he played. in London, in Tottenham, shadow
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for Tottenham winning their first game this season.
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Like really far into the season. So, but they
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thought that he had blood clots and they told
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him to stay up for 32 hours. Six, 36. 36 hours.
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And almost wielded his team to a win for his
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coach to make a bad call, which lost them in
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game, which also potentially could lose his career
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in the NFL. So I see all these reports and it's
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like, Jalen Hurts. Is he underrated or overrated?
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I will never know anymore because he might have
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to retire way too young. For a person who right
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now with the media and how everything goes, Jalen
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Hurts hasn't had the opportunity to just be himself.
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He's been trying to be this football player,
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this icon, this nothing bothers me. He's trying
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to be a robot. He's trying to be the robot. And
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I think the biggest issue with Jalen Hurts is
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as much as this injury is going to take him a
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moment to set back and heal, it might actually
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help him find out his true identity of who he
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actually is due to the fact that right now I
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think football is consuming him too much that
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it's not healthy for him. And like our generation
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keeps talking about the concept of work -life
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balance. And right now I see with Jalen Hurts,
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there is no level of work -life balance. If you
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had blood clots and your doctor tells you to
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stay up for 36 hours, that's not healthy. You
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probably shouldn't get on a plane. Shouldn't
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get on a plane. You shouldn't play a football
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game because you're playing with your life. Well,
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exactly. Right. You see all these people getting
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absolutely destroyed, getting like concussed.
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Imagine how you feel after being up for 36 hours.
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Sure. Generally. Sure. Now try to do that and...
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play a football game as the star player on a
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team that needs the win. He's trying to put the
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whole team on his back. But he's not prioritizing
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himself or his needs or his family because he
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cares too much about work. But the crazy, you
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know what I noticed while you were saying a lot
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of that? I hate it so much, not what you said,
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but the fact that you're not wrong because everybody
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keeps going, oh, well, they're not winning. He's
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not good. He's not good enough. He can't do that.
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That goes to the player's heads. And now he now
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that's probably part of the reason why he wanted
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to play through these injuries. He shouldn't
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be playing through because he's having a down
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year. He's like, I need to prove myself. And
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a lot of these things. Yes, we talked about it
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with Joe Burrow. A lot of these wins or wins
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and losses have nothing to do with them at the
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very end of it. However, it still comes back
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like. His record this year is 2 -4. He's just
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not that good. I mean, there's other quarterbacks
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that are kind of deserving of their terrible
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records, like Justin Herbert this year is throwing
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meatball subs to everybody. But he's still winning
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at Mike. Yeah, yeah. But there's certain players,
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they lose, but it's not their fault. No. They're
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doing the best they can with what they have.
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No, we can talk about the charges later, but
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yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of people that are
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letting people, letting them down. But yeah,
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when one thing becomes so all consuming and you
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feel like you have to do it, you have to do it.
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Like saying, no, I can't play becomes not an
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option. Like if you feel like your life revolves
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around work and someone asks you to come into
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work. You have all these family things. You got
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a bunch of personal stuff you're trying to work
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through. But you feel like you can't say no because
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you're letting people down. Or in sports, you're
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letting the fans down. You're letting your team
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down. You're letting your sponsors down. The
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owners down who are paying you. You may have
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these. So you feel like you have to. There's
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no way out. You feel trapped. So you have to
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do these things. And then it ends up being super
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detrimental to your health or your... family
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life or anything. Because again, we've talked
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about this before. At the end of the day, you
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are, regardless of what your position is, where
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you are, what you're doing, you are just a cog
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in the wheel. Oh, for sure. You are definitely
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just a number. It's like that from the time we're
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born. We get a sin number assigned to us. You
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are to the government, you are just a number.
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You are a cog in the wheel. Everyone is replaceable.
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Everybody is always replaceable. The show must,
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it's... Just like the theater, the show must
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go on. Oh, for sure. The show continues. Quarterback
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goes down. There's a backup for that. Backup
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quarterback goes down. There's another guy for
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that. That backup goes down. I don't know what
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we're going to do. We got to keep going. They
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throw a receiver in. Do you remember a few years
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ago during COVID? What team was that again? It
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was the Saints playing, I want to say it was
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Atlanta, maybe. You might be right. But it was
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weird because their entire quarterback room was
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gone. Yes. So they brought in a practice squad
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guy who got injured on the second play. And then
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their tight end, which also plays quarterback,
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got injured. That was when Jameis Winston was
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there. Was it? I think it was when Jameis Winston
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was there. Oh, I know it was Taysom Hill. Taysom
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Hill was on the Saints when that happened. Yes.
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But yeah. But that's what I mean. Regardless,
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the show goes on. But then you end up in these
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situations where there's things that need to
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happen. Certain people, coaches, aren't doing
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what they need to be doing in order to protect
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the players. The doctors aren't doing what they
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need to to protect the players enough. This is
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going to be a huge investigation for the Eagles.
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But you're not wrong. It's going to be massive.
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But you're not wrong. You're not wrong. And then
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you have people... I don't know. There's two
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sides of this coin. All right. So you're my side.
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Flip it. Flip it. Flip the coin. Well, for what
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I'm about to say, because you have Nick Sirianni
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needs to go. He doesn't actually bring anything
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to the Eagles. If the Eagles let go of him, would
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he get another head coaching job? Potentially.
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Could he be a coordinator anywhere, offense or
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defense? Yes, he could. No. Yes, he could. Defensively,
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yes. You think he could be a defensive coordinator?
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He could be a coordinator. Yeah. Either way.
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He would have to earn that head coaching job.
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Yeah. I don't think he brings his time to the
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Eagles. However, because of all of this stuff
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that's happening. I'm going to stop you here
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for a second. He will get a head coaching job
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in a heartbeat somewhere else due to the fact
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that he did deliver a Super Bowl. But continue.
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But at the same time, how much of that was him
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and how much of that was the people around him?
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A team that's desperate will give it a shot to
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figure it out. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't know.
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What I'm saying is do what does he deserve. Also,
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because of all this stuff going on, he gets a
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pass. So there's a lot of... Yes, he does. Well,
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he gets a pass from us. Exactly. And from some
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meaty people out there, yes. This last week?
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There was nothing on Nick Sirianni. There's nothing
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on him. It doesn't matter because... The situation
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and the focus was on Jalen Hurts. Exactly. Yeah.
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So I think I... talked to you a little bit about
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this the other day, but it was a perfect situation
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for him. Because if they had have won, which
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they didn't, but if they had have won, he looks
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like a hero because he could will his team to
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winning even without their star quarterback.
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Then it goes back to, is it Jalen Hurts? Then
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it goes back on Jalen Hurts. And then if he doesn't
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win, they go, oh, well, you had a backup. It's
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Jalen Hurts' fault for not playing. So Jalen
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Hurts is feeling it both ways. Meanwhile, he
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has a blood clot in his lung and may never play
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again. It's potential. It seems crazy to me.
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Victor Wimignana did have a blood clot in his
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rookie year. He did get through it. It's got
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a lot longer to go, though. They're just so long.
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You're not wrong. You're not wrong. But I don't
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think this is threatening for Jalen Hurts. But
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here's my next thing, then. I look at Micah Parsons.
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And before, I was always frustrated because Micah
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Parsons, and don't get me wrong, you got to do
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what you got to do. You got to do what you're
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passionate about. He's a football player, but
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he's also a podcaster. And when he was on Dallas,
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he was podcasting too much that you kind of side
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affect his game. Oh, 100%. But then we get into
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the point where it's like, if that's what he's
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passionate about and he wants to do it on the
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side, you can't fault him for it. Yeah, because
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I don't care how much you pay someone. You don't
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own them. True. But also it gets to the other
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point is that what we were talking about, Jalen
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Hurts was so focused on his career that he made
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him not focus on his hobbies or things that actually
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brought him joy. I've never seen him do anything
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that wasn't football. That were Michael Parsons,
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probably less football. He also likes talking
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and expressing his opinion. That's why he has
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his podcast. And that's why his podcast is so
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successful. And even when he's injured, he can
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still podcast and have his deals and so forth.
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That separates him from football. My biggest
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thing is before that we used to complain, whether
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it was like Micah Parsons, Draymond Green, you
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know, PG -13. Yeah, they're doing all these things
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outside of the sport. That their game started
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getting affected. And it's like, do both. But
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it's hard to balance a work -life balance, especially
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when it gets to the point where your work consumes
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your life and is your only identity. Yeah. Some
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of these players you retire. Don't know who they
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are. Well, exactly. And as soon as the massive
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paychecks stop rolling in, they're broke. Yes.
22:02
I look at Jameis Winston, for example, and how
22:06
much he's a backup quarterback, but then he covered
22:08
the World Cup. He became an announcer. Yeah,
22:13
that was funny. He covered a lot of things announcing
22:17
-wise because of the way he talks and how inspirational.
22:21
I wouldn't be surprised if after when he's done
22:23
playing football, he becomes a pastor. I can
22:25
see that. He might need it though. I heard there's
22:29
an opening. Yes. Too soon. Too soon. But overall,
22:32
I view these little things as it's like, at one
22:35
point, we're trained so hard as individuals to
22:39
grow up, get a career, and that's what you do
22:41
for the rest of your life. And I think back to
22:44
when we were like, like we talk about how some
22:46
people are so one dimensional that people don't
22:48
even know how to color anymore. People don't
22:50
know how to hand write anymore. People don't
22:52
even know like the difference between colors
22:54
or they get so focused up in their career that
22:56
life is passing them by. And all they can talk
22:59
about is the one twos of the job. Right. And
23:02
I now have a deeper appreciation for Draymond
23:05
Green, Micah Parsons for doing things outside
23:08
that are still at a big scope because yes, they
23:11
still get injured at the workplace, but it doesn't
23:14
ruin them emotionally because they can still
23:16
do what they love. It's, it's crazy to me. Everyone
23:19
loves sports because they get emotionally invested
23:23
in it, all this. And then at a certain point,
23:27
there's like a fine line when the media, the
23:33
fans, even the players themselves, they stop
23:36
seeing the players as people and start seeing
23:40
them as numbers because it's a, what have you
23:44
done for me lately? What are your numbers? What
23:47
are your stats? What is this? But these are people.
23:49
Yes. It's not like the Sunday ends and you just
23:54
toss them in the closet and wait for next Sunday,
23:58
pull them out, throw them on the field. They
24:01
have lives. They have families. And honestly,
24:05
athletic careers are so short. Except for LeBron.
24:11
Well, yeah. That's different. Most athletic careers
24:13
are very short. Yes, yes. We've talked about
24:15
that before where you see someone that's like,
24:17
actually. The Devonta Adams just got a hamstring
24:21
strain or something. So he's out for six to 10
24:24
weeks. So like most of the season. So the Rams
24:28
are, Rams are in rough shape now, but we always
24:30
talk about him as like, he's like a geriatric
24:34
receiver. We're older than him. It's true. It's
24:38
true. You look at it with me. Yeah. Well, yeah,
24:42
I was mostly looking towards you, but he's about
24:45
my age, but still you look at him, you're like.
24:47
Oh, there he is, the oldest man. And then all
24:51
of these players need to do something after.
24:54
That's why it's so important for all these kids
24:56
that are making crazy money with NIL stuff in
25:00
college to... Build a foundation. Build a foundation
25:03
and actually get their educations and be able
25:07
to do something after football. Sure. After basketball.
25:11
Because that opportunity isn't there for everybody.
25:14
Oh, for sure, for sure, for sure. And it's important
25:16
for them to focus now while they're in their
25:20
career on thinking about life, like think about
25:24
the future. There's not a lot of people think
25:26
about the future. Like, well, even us, like we
25:30
work all the time. Like you look at it and go,
25:33
oh yeah, I've been working 50, 60, 65 hours a
25:37
week for however many weeks in a row. That's
25:41
draining on your body. And eventually that catches
25:44
up to you. Then you see all these people, how
25:47
are they doing all these extra things? They're
25:50
just not spending an extra 25 hours a week at
25:53
work. That's the other thing that I view it as.
25:57
It's very easy to be very consumed with one thing.
26:00
We diversify ourselves. Yeah, it's a lot easier
26:03
when you can diversify and you have a couple
26:06
different things because you use different brain
26:08
space so it doesn't exhaust you as much. I think
26:11
the reason why I can keep continuing the way
26:14
I am is because my I'm using different parts
26:16
of my brain everywhere I'm at, whether it's like
26:19
if I'm working in IT or talking to customers,
26:22
I'm using one side of my brain. Yeah, you're
26:24
doing technology things and then you flip it
26:27
over to the bartending side. Now I'm walking
26:30
around, I'm moving, I'm talking instead of typing.
26:33
And I'm being creative. Yeah. Right? And then
26:35
now we come on Mondays at Clubhouse and we're
26:38
socializing, we're relaxing and just having that.
26:42
that bonding session. And then, you know, Sundays
26:44
you got to watch your football or do the things
26:47
that you need to, like your chores, like the
26:48
laundry, extra dishes or whatever. You know what
26:51
I mean? Like by keep moving, you're using different
26:54
parts of your brain, which is exercising your
26:56
brain. Yeah. Instead of being consumed with one
26:58
thing that just drains everything. So then you
27:00
lose. So while we're on this topic, listening,
27:03
it's time to pay some bills, pay some bills.
27:05
We can transfer into that. Not everybody has
27:08
time to get out and go do stuff, especially in
27:10
the winter. If you come to 100 Kellogg, there's
27:15
stuff to do. There's stuff to do with the family,
27:18
whether it's taking people out on dates, whether
27:22
it's stuff with your kids, whether it's jumping
27:25
around at the factory or coming here, renting
27:29
one of these Sims. You can sit down, watch the
27:31
game, hang out, have that basement vibe with
27:33
a couple of pitchers of beer and some nachos.
27:36
Watch the game on a massive screen. You can throw
27:38
stuff out when you're angry. You could play.
27:41
All of these different sports get your body moving
27:43
during halftime. Even just doing that, that's
27:47
super important. If you're sitting down at home
27:51
or you go to any other bar and you sit down and
27:55
watch the game, you're just sitting there for
27:57
three, four, if it's red zone, it's seven hours,
28:00
seven and a half hours. But here you can get
28:02
up, move around. There's lots of space. You can
28:05
get up, do some mini putt, do some bowling. Duck
28:08
pin bowling. Gotta love duck pin bowling. Get
28:10
your lungs going with the karaoke. Do re mi fa
28:13
sol la ti do. That's one of the coolest things
28:16
about this place. Because it's a huge building,
28:21
it doesn't feel crowded. No, it doesn't. No.
28:24
It feels like you're hanging out at home. Tell
28:27
me about it. Yeah. That's why it's called the
28:30
clubhouse. Yeah. Right? And that treehouse vibes.
28:33
You know what's funny, though? When you're in
28:34
a clubhouse, you know what's an easy escape,
28:37
though? If you have to have a... Best case, come
28:40
to your house. That's true. Because you have
28:42
mice. You have bats. You got bugs or whatever.
28:47
Or you just need to get your winter spray before
28:50
the winter animals come in. Yeah, and you shouldn't
28:52
be home for that. That's not good for your lungs.
28:55
That's not good for your lungs. But you know
28:57
what? The best case is best case scenario. Yeah.
29:00
You can come knock it all out and come have a
29:03
beer here. Relax. Let the bugs get off. I think
29:08
we can say that. Yeah. I don't know. There's
29:11
certain words that... And then lastly, obviously,
29:14
we fund this podcast on our own. So at least
29:19
take the time to go to MilkyWayApparel .com.
29:22
Buy something. You actually support the podcast
29:25
in ways that you don't realize. And part of that
29:27
proceeds does go to Hutton House. So you're giving
29:29
back to charity. You're helping us. And you're
29:31
actually exploring opportunities where you're
29:33
bringing the community together. So Milky Way.
29:36
Pest case and clubhouse. Yeah. Hey, I just started
29:39
wearing my new sweater. It's fine. It's sweater
29:41
season now. It's sweater season. I had to take
29:43
it off because this place has heat. It gets hot
29:45
in here. It's hot under these lights. I got you.
29:47
I got you. But the sweater looks fantastic. Oh,
29:51
for sure. No, you make it look good. You make
29:53
it look good. All right. Football though. We
29:57
got to talk football. Mm -hmm. We got to talk
29:59
football. All right. Where are we starting? I
30:02
know. We had an international game. We had my
30:06
buddy. He was in Denver this week. There was
30:11
a lot that happened this week. Man, I can't believe.
30:15
It feels like it was so long ago. The Seattle
30:18
Denver Broncos game. Yeah. I'm going to say this
30:22
right now. I'm going to be totally honest, and
30:24
I want your opinion on this. Bo Nix is overrated.
30:28
Bo Nix is not a good quarterback. So bad. And
30:31
I know we're like, if he's listening to this.
30:37
If he's listening to this, please throw it further.
30:39
Mr. Checkdown. It's literally Mr. Checkdown.
30:44
His average throughout that, I don't know if
30:47
it's the whole season or if it was just that
30:49
game, but the average was like, I think it was
30:52
5 .6 yards or something per pass attempt. Right.
30:58
So you look at that. What did you do? You're
31:02
like, how? You're not even throwing it. If you
31:08
have two couches next to each other, you're not
31:10
even throwing it over them. I'm going to be totally
31:12
honest with you. With Bo Nix, he might not be
31:15
able to hit the screen from here. Congratulations
31:17
to Denver for winning. That was definitely a
31:20
defensive game. Sam Donald had a really bad game
31:23
as well. Threw a lot of picks. That defense on
31:26
Denver is really, really good. You can't knock
31:29
them for that. Well, yeah, that's the only reason
31:30
they're in it. But Bo Nix, I don't understand
31:33
how your coach can handle you due to the fact
31:36
that you're not doing a lot. You're just doing
31:39
the bare minimum. I was so mad. I mean, one of
31:41
my fantasy of the teams is just mangled with
31:44
injuries anyway. And the other person's team
31:47
went off, so it didn't actually matter at the
31:48
end of the day. That's fair. But because the
31:50
game was on Thursday, I forgot to switch out.
31:52
I had Mahomes and Bo Nix. I forgot to swap out
31:56
Bonex because it was because of the bye week.
31:58
Yep. Because I wasn't paying enough attention
32:01
because my team was on a bye. So my brain just
32:04
goes all, it's fine. I get you. But no, he was
32:08
awful. It's so bad. But hey, they won. That's
32:12
all that matters. So that's the thing. They won.
32:16
So he continues to be a winning quarterback,
32:19
even though he sucks. And then you have other
32:22
quarterbacks that are like, they are really good.
32:25
But people knock them because they're like, oh,
32:27
he just can't quite get it done. Meanwhile, Bo
32:30
Nix does everything in his power to not get it
32:32
done. And like the team just wills it to happen
32:36
anyway. It's ridiculous. It's like almost similar
32:40
to like the Chicago ATL game where I literally
32:43
thought ATL was about to come back and win that
32:45
game. The final score was 31 to 23 for Chicago.
32:50
Chicago's powerhouse. But second half, they basically
32:52
kind of got shut out. And then ATL was working
32:55
their way back in the fourth quarter to the point
32:57
where it's just like they were so close. I mean,
33:00
it's a good thing Caleb Williams is back from
33:04
his season -ending injury. We won't talk about
33:07
that. We won't talk about that. Another game
33:11
we can briefly chat about is Cleveland versus
33:13
Baltimore. And Tyler Huntley, I'm sorry, you
33:17
were Lamar Jackson two -point. He's trying to
33:20
be. They got Derrick Henry running a little bit.
33:24
A little bit, not really. They only have 58 yards.
33:28
58 yards, but it's also when age is playing a
33:30
factor. Scheming is horrible. They're not using
33:33
Derek Henry the right way because you don't want
33:36
to injure him because you want him for the later
33:38
on. Yeah, you can't. So you're limiting his play
33:40
time. Yeah. So you see all that. It's like, all
33:43
right, so you're not a feature back, but you're
33:45
the feature back. I don't know. I really enjoyed
33:47
the fact that the Browns won because end of the
33:51
day. They took out the number one team. The Browns
33:54
are the Browns. And the Bengals have a loss in
33:56
the division to the Steelers. Now the Ravens
34:00
have a loss in the division. And when we beat
34:03
them next week, we can get ahead of them. And
34:06
I'm not worried about the Steelers. I'm not worried
34:09
about the Browns. I would be worried about the
34:11
Browns. I'm going to be honest. If I was a Bengals
34:13
fan right now, I'd be a little bit concerned
34:15
about the Browns. No, the Browns are going to
34:17
brown it up. No, I am telling you. I could even
34:21
bet money on this. Okay, deal. We'll talk off
34:24
air. I could see Cleveland beating, in the first
34:27
game, Cleveland will beat Bengals. Okay, so.
34:30
I think at the end of the year. At the end of
34:33
the year, the AFC North division is always, will
34:37
always be tight. It's very rare that any team
34:41
sweeps anybody. Like, I have a feeling the Bengals
34:45
will beat the Steelers next time. The Bengals
34:48
will beat the Ravens. The Ravens will beat the
34:49
Bengals next time. They flip -flop, but it's
34:53
against all of the other teams. And the Browns
34:58
will play some teams where they will just lose
35:01
to, and you'll be like, how is this an NFL team?
35:04
At the end of the day, the Ravens did not play
35:07
very well, and the Browns only put up 13 points.
35:11
Understandable. Understandable. I don't think
35:15
the Browns are going to all of a sudden be the
35:18
greatest thing ever. Yes, I realize they're leading
35:20
the division right now. They're leading the division,
35:22
but I'm watching the style of play. Especially
35:26
with what he's working with. Yeah, but they're
35:30
playing, they beat Tampa. Fair. Who hasn't won
35:34
a game yet. They beat the Ravens without Lamar.
35:37
Yep. Who is, I realize, yes, they have Derrick
35:43
Henry. But without Lamar, the Ravens become one
35:48
-dimensional. And they're not the same team at
35:50
all. Okay. Who else? They lost to the Jets. I'm
35:56
trying to think. Who else do we got? Who have
35:58
they played? They've lost to the Jags. Valid.
36:03
They lost to the Panthers. No. They beat the
36:07
Panthers. Or they beat the Panthers. They lost
36:09
to the Jags. They beat the Steelers. They lost
36:11
to the Jags. So the Steelers are another one
36:14
of those teams. Those indivision games... Oh,
36:17
Steelers are done for. No, but those indivision
36:18
games are always different for everybody. For
36:21
sure, for sure. I'm not denying that. Them beating
36:23
the Panthers was actually kind of shocking. But
36:25
the Panthers have started rolling since. But
36:28
the only two teams that the Browns have lost
36:30
to have been the Jays and the Jets. And Jets
36:35
is one thing, right? Actually, looking at it
36:38
right now, the Browns play the Titans this week,
36:41
so I think that's another win for them. Yeah.
36:43
Yeah. But I don't think they'll beat the Steelers
36:48
when they play them in Week 8. I'm just saying,
36:50
by the time December 6th, Cleveland might be
36:53
able to beat the Bengals. I'm saying by the time
36:55
December 6th. No. I'm sticking to that. You just
37:00
got to knock my team down now that your team
37:02
sucks. Something like that. Something like that.
37:06
You just think the people like seeing you get
37:09
me angry. It's true. It's true. It gets the people
37:11
going. Yeah. But that's that. But yeah, no. Honestly,
37:15
every in -division game is a bloodbath. Oh, it's
37:18
a bloodbath. Bloodbath, always. Tennessee versus
37:20
Indianapolis. But that was part of the reason.
37:23
Was it the... Like, the Seahawks just played
37:26
the Niners. They lost to the Niners in a hard
37:31
-fought game. Yep. On a short week. To then play
37:35
Denver. Then they had to go in and play Denver,
37:37
who is a hard defense. Altitude. With the altitude.
37:41
So it makes it very difficult for them to win.
37:44
True, true. So you're kind of just set up for,
37:46
not set up, well, I kind of set up for failure.
37:50
In a sense. I'm just going to touch on it very,
37:55
very quickly. New Orleans versus the Giants.
37:57
J .J. McCarthy got a play, threw a pick on his
38:00
first play. Yeah, but then in the fourth quarter,
38:02
he threw 250 yards. I realize some of that, a
38:05
lot of that is garbage time. Garbage time, but
38:06
yeah. But, I mean, that's kind of neat. Skadaboo
38:09
got nothing. He didn't get a single carry. On
38:12
the field for six plays. If you drafted Cam Scott
38:15
Abu in the fourth round of your fantasy league,
38:17
you are panicking right now. Welcome to my life.
38:21
All my players are done. You are panicking hard
38:24
right now. Right now you're looking for a new
38:27
running back because Tyrone Tracy hopefully is
38:30
still on your way for water. Oh, man. Sometimes
38:32
it's just such a crapshoot when it comes to fantasy
38:34
football because people just start going down
38:37
and down and down. If you're lucky, you survive
38:41
the injury bug. But sometimes one week, your
38:45
whole team just catastrophically injured. Oh,
38:48
for sure, for sure. Arizona versus LA Rams. What
38:51
do you think the Rams are this year? I mentioned
38:52
Devontae Adams. He's out now. True. At least
38:56
Puka's back. They'll get Miles Garrett at some
38:59
point. I think the Rams are going to be a second
39:02
half of the season shocker team. Depends, though.
39:04
Not a shocker team. They're, honestly... Kind
39:08
of reminding me of a Bengals team. The Rams are?
39:12
It was a few years ago when, you know, back when
39:17
the Bengals couldn't start a season. They'd start
39:19
really rough, and then they'd be having all these
39:23
weird lingering injuries. I don't know when the
39:26
Rams' bye week is, but I expect they'll be a
39:29
lot better right after. Fair, fair. Okay, so
39:32
it's almost been back -to -back weeks, though,
39:35
that Josh Wallace has been targeted by NFRFs.
39:39
To the point, Josh Wallace, who is the linebacker,
39:43
I believe the DB for the LA Rams. And there was
39:47
one time when he was playing against Seattle
39:49
and he made an amazing interception and they
39:53
called it pass interference. And when you watch
39:55
the replay, that was offensive pass interference.
39:59
There's so much of that. And then the opportunity
40:02
for the Rams to beat Arizona. The player catches
40:05
the ball and Wallace doesn't really move, but
40:07
he doesn't do anything wrong. And the player
40:09
tilts their head to the point where it hits their
40:11
shoulder, where it's almost like, boom, passer
40:14
interference. Yeah, that's frustrating. Which
40:16
then gave Arizona the... So it's getting to the
40:19
point where it's like, wow, do they really hate
40:22
Josh Wallace? Or is it about betting? Now, here's
40:26
one other thing that I want to bring into this.
40:28
Well, there were a lot of bets on the Rams to
40:30
win the divisions, win all these... Have you
40:33
noticed Ian Rappaport recently? What about him?
40:37
So Ian Rappaport is one of the biggest NFL agents
40:40
who's been talking about injuries and so forth.
40:44
He also has an investment with a betting site.
40:48
So when Jalen Hurts was injured with the blood
40:52
clot, that morning he made a mention that, hey,
40:57
Jalen Hurts should be out for a few weeks, blah,
41:00
blah, blah, X, Y, and Z. Betting's changed. Then
41:04
the actual report came out. But he's been doing
41:08
that. a lot this year to the point where we've
41:11
always talked about people that we have to worry
41:13
about changing the way betting works. It's insider
41:15
trading. It's insider trading. Ian Rappaport
41:18
is getting some rap right now that he's potentially
41:20
changing the way people view betting and his
41:24
reports. That's going to fit him because he has
41:27
shares in a betting site that he doesn't necessarily
41:30
have to report. Well, especially the way that
41:32
they've changed betting with like, what is it?
41:35
Polymarket, I think. Yes. How? I could pay $40
41:42
down on the Bengals to win the Super Bowl. And
41:45
then if the percentage chance goes up, that $40
41:49
now becomes worth $60. Then I could sell that
41:53
and then, I don't know, make a report that says,
41:57
oh, Joe Burrow's injured. And then the chances
42:03
go down and then I buy back in. So it's like,
42:06
it's literally insider trading. Insider trading,
42:08
stock market. It's the same thing. Yeah. But
42:11
I don't know. It's so hard. But then you all,
42:15
okay. I know I mentioned earlier that I wanted
42:18
to talk about this. Yeah. But the, you know what
42:21
I hate? I'm listening. Gotcha questions. Not
42:24
wrong. I realize this is in everything, but I
42:27
don't want, we're not going to talk about politics
42:29
and all this. I know that's big right now, but
42:32
when it comes to sports, like Sirianni was being
42:35
a, attacked and pestered by all the reporters
42:38
asking about, what did you know about Jalen Hurts'
42:43
medical information? Yeah. Did something die?
42:47
Not yet. Almost? Getting there? We're good. Okay.
42:50
But yeah, he was getting pestered about his,
42:52
like, all of the medical history and like, oh,
42:55
did the doctors tell you this? Did they tell
42:57
you? And he's like, I'm not a doctor. I was doing
43:00
what I was told. I just listened to the advice
43:03
of everyone else. But did you know? And they
43:07
just keep asking it over and over and over again.
43:09
All they're looking for is you to slip up and
43:12
say one thing and them to just capitalize on
43:15
it. Well, that's what it comes down to, right?
43:17
So yeah, you're right. Instead of trading, asking
43:20
gotcha moments to see if their credibility can
43:22
be tested because everyone's just looking for
43:25
that. They're just poking holes in the team and
43:28
trying to ruin the morale of the team or whatever.
43:32
Because sometimes they'll ask. The offensive
43:34
players, do you think the defense let you down?
43:38
Meanwhile, you're like, well, yeah, obviously
43:40
the offense wasn't on the field when the other
43:43
team drove it 90 yards to win the game. Obviously,
43:47
if you ask me, I'm going to say, well, yeah,
43:49
they could have done better. But they're asking
43:52
you just to get these answers. Everybody knows
43:54
the answer. Everyone knows the answer. We can
43:56
see it. Everyone knows the answer. They just
43:58
want you to say it. Right. They want to see,
44:00
they want to test your loyalty. Yeah. Well, they'll
44:02
do that. And like so much of it is just for clips.
44:07
Oh, for sure. For sure. And it's, it's just frustrating
44:10
when you're, when it's things, again, it's things
44:13
that everybody knows, but they can't, like, they
44:16
can't say that. True. I like that take. I do
44:19
like that take. One thing, another thing I'm
44:21
going to say though, and this is going to, two
44:24
of our friends who usually come to this podcast
44:25
every week, they're not here today because they're
44:28
driving back from Kansas City. They were at the
44:31
Kansas City. Sorry, was that out loud? LA Chargers
44:33
game. And one of them says, man, Chargers could
44:37
have done something. And I look at that, I see
44:40
a few things. We used to blame the Dolphins that
44:45
it was Tua's fault and not really blame Mike
44:48
McDaniels. And then it got to the point where
44:51
Mike McDaniels was catching some of that slack.
44:53
Yeah, it turns out it was actually both of their
44:55
faults. It was actually both of them, right?
44:56
It was a mix of both of them. Not being on the
44:59
same page with a lot of things. So now you insert
45:02
Mike McDaniels in the offensive coordinator position
45:05
and Justin Herbert's having a horrible year where
45:09
I'm saying this now, the Chargers are going 0
45:11
-16. At this rate, there's no point for y 'all
45:13
winning. Yeah. Just take the loss. Get Jeremiah
45:18
Smith on the Chargers. No, he's coming to the
45:20
Eagles. Honestly, I think Mike McDaniels is just
45:26
not a good fit. with Justin Herbert at all. I
45:30
just don't think he's a good leader as a coach.
45:32
No, he's not. And he draws up all these crazy
45:36
plays and all this, but those aren't the way.
45:40
He's trying to take Justin Herbert and force
45:44
him to be the quarterback that he wants and not
45:46
taking the quarterback that he has and setting
45:50
him up for success. That's what makes a good
45:55
coach because not everybody can do that. You
46:00
see a lot of these teams. That's why guys like,
46:03
I don't know, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, bounced
46:08
around to a few different teams until they found
46:11
a good fit. And then it was like, oh, there's
46:14
actually good. I love that you just said Baker
46:15
Mayfield. I just love the fact that you said
46:17
Baker Mayfield. I'm going to flip it now. So
46:20
Baker Mayfield bounced around, found a great
46:23
fit with the Bucs. Yeah. Played well for about
46:27
three years. Played well enough to fill the role
46:30
of Tom Brady. Yeah. Then money came in. And then
46:34
he decided, obviously injuries, you can't prevent
46:37
injuries. But then the true colors come out when
46:40
it was like he was playing to get that contract.
46:44
He got the contract and now he can slow down.
46:47
I don't think it's as much about, I don't think
46:50
it's as much of a season was all about them not
46:52
working for him to get his contract. Yeah. Because
46:55
once they get that, the problem is once they
46:57
get that contract, They don't have the money
47:00
to pay all these other players. So it looks like
47:04
he's slowing down when it's actually just maybe
47:07
his O -line. There's a couple less million dollars
47:11
to spend on the O -line. Less million dollars
47:14
to get their O -line because one person wanted
47:17
all of it. You're maybe down a top receiver.
47:21
Your defense isn't as good because you don't
47:24
have the same money to spend. because these players
47:27
command a lot of money. That's why everyone starts
47:31
treating them like a number and not like a person.
47:34
You see all the, I don't know, there's certain
47:37
players that can do it. There's certain players
47:39
that can't do it. There's that very fine line.
47:43
Like that's, I think that's the difference between
47:45
the superstars and like the league average. So
47:49
what I'll say this, I was listening to a podcast
47:52
this week and it kind of identified a few things
47:55
for me. in the business aspect of things. And
47:58
sometimes you have this team that you've built
48:01
and then you have an all -star and you're trying
48:03
to fit other all -stars with that all -star.
48:06
Yeah. Which is not possible always because you
48:10
don't necessarily know what you're actually looking
48:12
for. You're just trying to clone the one person.
48:15
But by cloning that one person, now you're having
48:17
deficiencies in other areas because you're only
48:21
focused on having an all -star in that field.
48:24
So when I look at, we'll talk about the Chargers.
48:27
Chargers have a fantastic team, like a really
48:30
good team. They do. They're just, they're organizationally,
48:33
right now they're a disaster. On paper, that
48:35
team should dominate. Now, what's the issue?
48:40
Well, it's coaching. They're probably online.
48:44
Coach is not putting people in the right position
48:46
so people can't execute the right way. So there's
48:49
that. Then I look at the Tampa Bay and I'm like,
48:51
you just paid Baker Mayfield. So now the whole
48:54
pie is there. Well, you can't build a good wide
48:57
receiver core or your own line. There's going
49:00
to be a hole. That's the beauty of having a salary
49:04
cap. Also a detriment. I mean, it is and it isn't.
49:08
Because if there was no salary cap, all of the
49:12
players would end up going and playing for the
49:14
same team. Correct. But the other aspect of it
49:16
is also looking at it from this concept. And
49:18
you're not wrong. You're 100 % correct. Even
49:21
with a salary cap, you have to figure out. The
49:23
players who want to play the sport for the sake
49:25
of playing the sport versus players who are only
49:28
playing so they can get the payday. Yeah. And
49:30
that's what that issue is. Because I know there's
49:33
controversy with this whole salary cap. And I'm
49:36
going to bring up my boys. And the reason why
49:38
they got stuck in the MLB is because they don't
49:42
want to buy out in the MLB. Yeah. Right? But
49:46
sometimes when you have players that are trying
49:49
to win, you want to pay them. So having a salary
49:52
cap is good in one aspect, but it's going to
49:56
hurt you in other aspects, right? You want to
50:01
make everything fair, but you also want to pay
50:02
payers with the work. Here's the other thing
50:05
is, I'm talking about the Dodgers where it's
50:07
legal, and then I can talk about Man City where
50:09
it's illegal, right? I'm still waiting for the
50:11
whole shoe to drop. The shoe's just inching closer
50:14
and closer to the ground. Now I also want to
50:17
figure out what other teams out there that are
50:18
doing this. That will benefit my boys, a .k .a.
50:21
Arsenal. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if
50:24
you're like, I want to know more teams that are
50:26
using oil money to fund their teams. You look
50:30
at it and you're like, it's all of them. It's
50:33
one of those, you got caught. You remember the
50:37
controversy years ago when there was an Italian
50:39
league that was rigging all these games and all
50:42
this? AC Milan. And then all of a sudden they...
50:47
They can't seem to make it into the World Cup
50:50
anymore. Oh, yeah. What a crazy coincidence.
50:54
You're like, well, that's your punishment for
50:56
getting caught. Yeah. City is going to get...
50:58
I think what I saw was they're going to take
51:00
20 points off every season for the next 10 years
51:04
or something. But even then, it's going to be
51:08
weird because then you see all these other countries
51:12
going, oh, if you do this to our team, because
51:15
that team's... owned by the UAE. I don't know.
51:21
It's such a mess. Especially when you look at
51:24
the numbers. The sheer numbers. You look at it
51:27
and you're like, well, obviously they're going
51:30
to put up as many possible roadblocks as possible.
51:32
They've put a billion dollars into this. With
51:37
a B. Billion. You're not wrong, but here's the
51:41
thing. We have generational talent there. With
51:45
Holland? Yeah. Holland is a generational player.
51:48
Yeah, and all of their whole career is going
51:51
to be controversy now. Giant asterisks on everything.
51:53
Like, in my opinion, he was like, we have Ronaldo,
51:59
we have Messi, and then it's like, the next player
52:01
for me was like, Holland. Like, that is this
52:04
generation's MJ. Or LeBron. Like, that, and now
52:08
it's just tainted. Right? Yeah. And it's unfortunate
52:13
that Man City did that. I wouldn't say he's like
52:15
MJ or LeBron, but... He's on pace. But I see
52:19
what you're saying. He's on pace to be that generational
52:22
talent that everyone wants to be. Like how Steph
52:24
Curry changed the NBA to the point where there's
52:27
generational players with an NBA. Steph Curry.
52:31
Yeah. I mean, he's more like Ronaldo than...
52:35
Fair. But before, everyone used to say you throw
52:38
a little bit of garbage in the trash can. You
52:41
used to say Kobe. Now you say Curry. You know
52:44
what I mean? Nobody has said Curry. There's been
52:47
people that says Curry because he dominated the
52:50
three -point. Two kids. Okay. If anyone out there
52:54
has ever heard anyone say Curry after throwing
52:57
something into something else, let us know because
53:01
that's wrong. Curry. Curry. No, honestly, it
53:05
was Curry. So you have generational players.
53:07
So we have LeBron James, Curry. I would say Kevin
53:12
Durant only because of the decision that he made.
53:14
But he lost a lot for that. So he's not like
53:18
in my eyes, like he's still a top player, but
53:20
no one cares about him the same way. James Harden.
53:23
Yeah, but everyone is going to say Durant as
53:26
they run to a championship team. It's true. It's
53:28
true. For me, Holland was... If I leave my job
53:32
and sign to one that is like... Significantly...
53:36
Even more successful and they're going... It's...
53:40
It's crazy. And I'm guaranteed all these things.
53:43
I'm guaranteed my wildest dreams will come true.
53:45
I can, I'll be like Durant and Durant or like,
53:48
you know, when someone decides what podcast I
53:51
want to follow, Oh, I might as well fall off
53:53
the bench Durant while we have burner accounts.
54:00
You know what I mean? I should get on that. Do
54:01
we have, is that talking about putting people
54:04
in the right fit? I don't want anyone to discourage
54:06
what sports is though. Right. And especially
54:09
like, The concept of what sports does is for
54:12
all of us fans, it's for us to stop thinking
54:15
about work. It's to stop, take a moment. It's
54:17
a distraction. It's something to enjoy. Hating
54:22
your team and loving your team is a part of the
54:24
experience. It's like going on a roller coaster.
54:27
It's the experience of going up and down and
54:30
getting to a finish line and then getting on
54:32
the same ride again and doing it all over again
54:35
and then building community around you. And understanding
54:38
that Not everything can go your way all the time.
54:41
Correct. Correct. As much as we complain, as
54:45
much as we yell at the TV, as much as we come
54:48
on here and say, this person needs to be fired
54:50
and this person needs to be fired. At the end
54:52
of the day, I'm still going to go to sleep and
54:54
wake up an Eagles fan. You're still going to
54:56
go to sleep and wake up as a Bengals fan. Yeah.
54:58
You know what I mean? We say the same thing.
55:00
Oh, Toronto Maple Leafs. Oh, it's the same story
55:02
every year. You know, blah, blah. They win a
55:04
few games. They're going to win. Halfway through
55:06
the season, dog. do -do this and dog do -do that.
55:10
It's like, yeah, that is the experience of being
55:13
a fan of these teams that a lot of people forget.
55:15
It's not about the money. It's the experience.
55:17
It's kind of like it's your favorite TV show
55:22
and it just has had 50 seasons or 65 seasons
55:26
or whatever number season we're on. Sometimes
55:28
your favorite character sucks. Sometimes your
55:33
favorite character is doing amazing things, but
55:36
not always. It's like, People talk about Game
55:40
of Thrones and how Game of Thrones was such a
55:42
great TV show until the last season. Welcome
55:44
to sports. It's the exact same feeling. We're
55:47
like, man, this team's amazing. I love watching
55:49
them. It's so energetic. And then you're like,
55:53
oh, I'm so excited. And then the season finale
55:55
hits you. I really wish I had more green lanterns
55:58
in my lanterns. Oh, I was going to say, I'm so
56:01
excited about the new season. My favorite, absolute
56:04
favorite. I'm excited to watch him the entire
56:07
season. entire show. He's going to be so amazing.
56:11
I love Sean Bean. And then just gone and you're
56:14
like, well, I guess I'll just keep watching anyway.
56:18
I know we're almost nearing that time where it's
56:22
second quarter, so I know we need to wrap things
56:24
up. I got to ask my questions, though. Are you
56:27
caught up on Lanterns? Are you caught up on Vision
56:29
Quest? I haven't watched Vision Quest yet, but
56:32
Lantern, yes. My press is down right now because
56:34
I'm rebuilding it. give me like a few more days
56:37
and i'll be back up so if you want to watch then
56:39
good so that but i gotta talk to you about a
56:42
yeah other ted lasso you caught up yeah that
56:45
was so good oh my god so good yeah honestly if
56:50
you haven't watched ted lasso you really need
56:52
to watch a lot so they did a fantastic job on
56:54
that season finale it's now i didn't really like
56:57
the the very the tail end of it true spoiler
57:00
alert when the big reveal happened and they're
57:03
like Actually, I knew the whole time. And then
57:05
she's like, oh, shucks, you got me. And then
57:07
they just walk off. And you're like, what? You
57:08
could have had a villain or someone to oppose
57:13
you the entire next season. But you just chose
57:17
to just take the easy way. We'll call it a day.
57:20
It could end that way. So then it's like a positive
57:22
ending, a series finale. I guess. But then it
57:27
also opens the door for a season finale. You
57:29
know what I mean? They took the easy way route.
57:31
Yeah. I didn't like that part of the ending.
57:35
I like what they did with the head coach. Yeah.
57:38
And I know my buddy's watching it now. And I
57:41
told him, wait until episode seven where it actually
57:44
gets good. Because it takes seven episodes for
57:48
them to build character. Yeah. And then it goes
57:51
into the story. And Ted Lasso is one of the only
57:53
TV shows. that does that properly where it can
57:56
build characters. Like, I don't know where they're
57:58
going, but like, I love the character building.
58:00
They'll just be like kind of a background character,
58:02
but not really. And not know. And then boom,
58:05
this is the direction we're going. Yeah. They
58:07
hit that correctly because you and I were talking
58:10
and it was like, oh, are they going this direction?
58:11
They're going that direction. They're going this
58:12
direction. And in season seven hit or episode
58:15
seven hits, it was like, oh, they're going this.
58:17
And then it's like the tail end. I love that
58:19
the boys got the bar. The boys had to have got
58:22
the bar. Yeah, I love it. That was great. I love
58:26
the fact that the one share and how she said
58:29
making sure women control soccer is amazing,
58:33
especially another great thing that happened
58:34
recently that I noticed is Canadian Tire is now
58:39
matching their donations, whether it's men or
58:41
female. So if they're donating $50 ,000 to men,
58:45
they'll donate the same $50 ,000 to women. So
58:48
for like soccer teams or whatever. I didn't know
58:51
that wasn't a thing. But Canadian Tire is now
58:54
announcing that they're matching whatever they
58:56
offer the men to the same to women. Maybe that's
58:59
just progressive of me. I just assumed it would
59:01
be same -ish. But Ted Lasso brought up a really
59:04
good point. People talk about how they want to
59:06
support women's sports, but they talk about they
59:10
don't actually execute on it. Yeah. A Canadian
59:12
company that's now doing it, it's Canadian Tire,
59:14
and they've advertised that they're matching.
59:17
So just because you advertise doesn't mean you're
59:21
actually doing it. Because there's a lot of mayors
59:23
trying to be mayor in London right now that don't
59:26
call their own word. But this isn't a political
59:29
podcast. Yeah. But what I'm saying is, overall,
59:32
Ted Lasso brought one thing up for sure. No,
59:35
that's cool. We could talk about that for...
59:38
That can be a next episode. Yeah. For sure. But
59:41
I do... Especially with the WNBA finals going
59:43
on. Angel Reese so overall you know what this
59:47
was a really good episode we got to talk on a
59:49
lot of different topics from like work -life
59:53
balance to understanding that stars can be realigned
59:57
you know sometimes you may lose your football
1:00:00
feel but you're going home to Madison Beer like
1:00:03
yeah be adaptable you know what I mean Justin
1:00:06
Herbert there's always OnlyFans you know what
1:00:08
I mean I might actually have to cut that one
1:00:10
but That's the one I might actually really have
1:00:13
to cut. Unless you start... Can you say that?
1:00:15
I don't know. I don't know. Unless you start
1:00:17
her own Patreon. I don't know. That's the funny
1:00:21
part. Overall... Hey, I didn't say anything like
1:00:25
what was happening on SNL. Fair, fair, fair.
1:00:29
What I will say with this, though, is I do want
1:00:32
to grow my flowers to you. I want to appreciate
1:00:35
you because we're on season two of Off the Bench
1:00:38
and we've come a long way. I would have thought
1:00:42
I'd still have stuff to talk about. You know
1:00:44
what I mean? But like, I wouldn't want any other
1:00:45
role. I love it. Honestly, having a great co
1:00:47
-host like you makes this energy work. And especially
1:00:50
with the AI photos that you also sent me too.
1:00:52
Thanks for saying that. It's not even my birthday.
1:00:54
Hey, hey, well, all I'm saying is like off the
1:00:57
bench, as much as it's a brainchild, it's a brainchild
1:01:00
with us doing it. I love it. Whenever we start
1:01:03
like... riffing off different things talking
1:01:06
about stuff uh it's always fun i i look back
1:01:08
and i was like i think about watching undisputed
1:01:11
with shannon sharp and what's his name shannon
1:01:14
sharp and skip bayless skip bayless and i feel
1:01:18
like our dynamic is very similar to that i'm
1:01:20
shannon sharp i get it it's the it's because
1:01:22
i'm it's because i'm older well it's not your
1:01:26
you you have the the skip bayless shade of hair
1:01:29
ah and uh i have the Same complexion as Shannon
1:01:36
Sharp. Basically what I'm getting at, though,
1:01:40
is it's like this podcast can't work without
1:01:42
like great dynamic. And you definitely bring
1:01:44
out a lot of that dynamics on this. So I'm looking
1:01:47
forward to what we accomplish moving forward.
1:01:49
We've definitely made more traction this year
1:01:52
than we have last year. And it's just going to
1:01:54
continue. I love it. I love it. I'm Malcolm the
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Milkman. Scott the Visionary Hone. And that's
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1:02:02
We almost forgot. Anyway, so that's who we are.
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