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El Sayed MOCKED for 'WACKY' policies · THE DAILY BRIEF

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  Speaker 1: Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed joins us now.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, Abdul? I'm good, Jesse.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate the opportunity for a good, wholesome conversation, and
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  Speaker 3: I just want to start where we agree. We both
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  Speaker 3: played football and lacrosse. We both love America. We both
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  Speaker 3: love freedom, and I'm looking forward to the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see how much we agree on. I know I
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  Speaker 1: don't agree with you on this. You want to abolish ICE.
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  Speaker 2: Who's going to.
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  Speaker 4: Deport the criminal aliens from the country?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you and I both know that we've—long before we
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  Speaker 3: ever had ICE, we had INS. We were able to
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  Speaker 3: enforce our immigration policies without shooting people in the face
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  Speaker 3: and the back of the head. And we just celebrated
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  Speaker 3: our 250th anniversary. That was an anniversary of throwing away tyranny. Now,
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  Speaker 3: to bring that tyranny back under the guise of the U.S.
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  Speaker 3: government itself, that seems to me to be inconsistent with
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  Speaker 3: the freedom you and I both love.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but, I mean, that's a dodge, Abdul.
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  Speaker 1: They did the same thing as ICE back then, INS.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know how many illegal aliens are in the
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  Speaker 4: country now?
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  Speaker 3: In the face, in the back of the head?
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  Speaker 4: Do you know how many illegal aliens are in the
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  Speaker 4: country now?
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  Speaker 5: We had, no, I mean, to your point, Jesse, Jesse,
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  Speaker 5: let me just answer the question.
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  Speaker 2: To answer it, how many do we have? We had far.
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  Speaker 3: Fewer when we had INS. To your answer, we had
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  Speaker 3: far fewer when we had INS. So arguably, INS worked
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  Speaker 3: a lot better.
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  Speaker 4: Abdul, listen, we had twice as many illegals now when
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  Speaker 4: we had INS.
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  Speaker 2: So to your argument, you have to have the manpower
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  Speaker 2: to do it.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to do that correlation, We have ICE now,
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  Speaker 3: and we have far, far more undocumented people. So ICE
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  Speaker 3: is clearly not working. It's just shooting, like, American citizens
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  Speaker 3: in the face and the back.
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  Speaker 5: Of the head.
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  Speaker 4: So if you're okay with that, then I guess we
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  Speaker 4: have to agree to disagree. You say you want socialized
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  Speaker 4: health care. Abdul, how much is that going to cost?
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  Speaker 3: It's going to cost the average Michigander a whole lot
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  Speaker 3: less than they pay right now. But I'm just going
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  Speaker 3: to tell you, I'm up against a guy who voted
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  Speaker 3: to raise prescription drug prices 19 times, 19 times, right?
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  Speaker 3: And so I'm just saying I want to bring your
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  Speaker 3: costs down. The price of the program is going to
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  Speaker 3: be substantially less for an everyday person who's out here
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  Speaker 3: who can't afford their health care and worried about losing
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  Speaker 3: their health care with their job.
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  Speaker 2: Give me the total number.
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  Speaker 3: While you're out here trying to talk about the broader
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  Speaker 3: national budget, I'm a lot more interested in the everyday
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  Speaker 3: budgets that Michiganders are thinking about. And that's exactly the
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  Speaker 3: budget that Donald Trump and Mike Rogers are blowing up
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  Speaker 3: right now. I just don't see why you're so on
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  Speaker 3: the side of the billionaires, Jesse, rather than on the
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  Speaker 3: side of everyday Michiganders.
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  Speaker 1: No, because I don't want you guys to blow the
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  Speaker 1: country up. Do you know how much the federal budget
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  Speaker 1: is now?
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  Speaker 2: No, neither do I. What's the federal budget?
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  Speaker 5: You guys want to.
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  Speaker 2: P. Hexeth, who used to work for your channel, wanted
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  Speaker 2: to raise.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 5: I just want to talk about this. Look, you want
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  Speaker 5: to talk about budgets, I'm happy to do that.
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  Speaker 3: The guy who used to work on your channel, I
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  Speaker 3: think he was like the sixth host on The Five,
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  Speaker 3: he wanted to raise our military budget to $ 1. 5 trillion,
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  Speaker 3: and you don't seem to be upset about that. What,
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  Speaker 3: so we could fight a war we don't know how
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  Speaker 3: to get out of to raise our gas prices $ 5
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  Speaker 3: a gallon? That doesn't make sense to me, Jesse. We
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  Speaker 3: want to talk about the things that we actually should
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  Speaker 3: spend on.
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  Speaker 1: I have a feeling, Abdul, you don't even know how
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  Speaker 1: much money the government spends every year. Do you know?
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  Speaker 3: Look, the question, Jesse, to me is I know what
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  Speaker 3: Michiganders are spending.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so you don't know. Let me tell you
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  Speaker 2: what it is.
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  Speaker 4: It's $ 7 trillion a year.
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  Speaker 1: And your plan to take over the health care system
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  Speaker 1: is $ 4 trillion.
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  Speaker 3: And here's the problem with it. So to exactly your point,
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  Speaker 3: do you know what? I'm not very good at math.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you're very good at math either, but
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  Speaker 3: go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Clearly. Clearly, clearly, clearly you don't.
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  Speaker 5: And you don't seem to care.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't think most Americans want to spend that
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  Speaker 3: much money on military escapades so that the folks stranded
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  Speaker 3: on the USS Abraham Lincoln can't even get a sausage
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  Speaker 3: for breakfast. I just think that we could do a
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  Speaker 3: lot better with our money, Jesse, and I think that's
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  Speaker 3: where you and I.
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  Speaker 1: Tend to disagree.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just disagree.
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  Speaker 2: I think if you spend $ 4 trillion.
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  Speaker 4: Everything else is going to get really expensive.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to look back at Bidenflation and you're going
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  Speaker 1: to wish you were back there.
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  Speaker 4: You also said this.
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  Speaker 1: You want to replace the right to bear arms with
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  Speaker 1: the right to health care. You don't want to replace
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  Speaker 1: the Second Amendment, do you?
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, man, I think more people are more worried
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  Speaker 3: about whether or not they can see a doctor than.
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  Speaker 5: Whether or not they can have a gun.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going to put that out there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you're dodging the question.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to replace the Second Amendment?
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying that more people are more concerned about
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  Speaker 3: seeing a doctor. If we had a right to health
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  Speaker 3: care in this country, they probably wouldn't. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that'd be a pretty good thing, don't you?
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  Speaker 1: I think you dodged the question. And that's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: big one in Michigan. So, Abdul, you're a doctor, right?
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  Speaker 3: I am.
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  Speaker 4: So you think it's okay for a parent to slash his.
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  Speaker 2: Kid's thing on the university?
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  Speaker 4: You think that's okay?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, do you really want to have this conversation?
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  Speaker 3: Are you circumcised?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I mean, that's a personal question, doctor.
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  Speaker 2: So you probably should want to move on.
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  Speaker 5: You probably should want to move on.
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  Speaker 4: Is circumcision different than castration?
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a problem.
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  Speaker 3: That you think that you get to decide what happens
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  Speaker 3: between a doctor and a patient. And I'm just saying that, yes,
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  Speaker 3: circumcision is surgery on a kid's ding-a-ling. So if you
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  Speaker 3: really want to bring that up, you can. I just
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  Speaker 3: think you guys are really selective about how you.
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  Speaker 2: Want to talk about these things.
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  Speaker 4: Abdul, Michigan's not going for that. That is sick stuff.
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  Speaker 2: As you realize, Michigan's kind of scary. Simply, people don't
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  Speaker 2: go for that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's like men.
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  Speaker 3: Aren't equal for women.
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  Speaker 4: It's like physical punishments. You like to say the word.
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  Speaker 2: Jesse, Jesse, look, you like to say the word. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that's a good position. Nobody's pushing it.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, but Jesse, Jesse, nobody's pushing it. You know
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  Speaker 3: what the issue is in Michigan?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 3: The issue that people are worried about is not that
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  Speaker 3: somehow somebody's going to come and push a real law
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  Speaker 3: on them. The issue in Michigan is people are worried
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  Speaker 3: about how they're going to afford their gas. The issue
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  Speaker 3: in Michigan is how am I going to see a
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  Speaker 3: doctor when I get sick? How am I going to
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  Speaker 3: keep my job?
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  Speaker 2: You're out here. Honestly, you guys love to play this
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  Speaker 2: culture war game. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: Where you use these words that sound really foreign to
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  Speaker 3: avoid actually having to talk about the issues that everyday
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  Speaker 3: people like to talk about. Now, look, Mike Rogers is
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  Speaker 3: the guy I'm running against for USN. And I know
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  Speaker 3: you've had him on your show. Maybe he answers questions.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if he does.
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  Speaker 5: I've actually never.
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  Speaker 2: Had him on. But look, You haven't. So he's ducking
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  Speaker 2: your show, too, because he's ducking. Look, can we all agree?
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  Speaker 2: I haven't invited him on. I'm going to have a debate, right?
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  Speaker 3: Can we all agree that Mike Rogers is a beta?
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  Speaker 2: Can we all agree with that? I haven't even had
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  Speaker 2: him on.
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  Speaker 5: Dude won't even come on your show because he's afraid
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  Speaker 5: of getting grilled.
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  Speaker 4: And I will have him on. That guy wants to
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  Speaker 4: be out.
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  Speaker 2: Here talking like, Jesse, let me just say. Can I
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  Speaker 2: back up for one second?
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  Speaker 3: He's out here trying to talk about Mike.
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  Speaker 2: Can I back up for one second?
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  Speaker 3: Finish my point. I'll finish.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be quick.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, because Mike Rogers isn't here to defend himself.
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  Speaker 3: He thinks he's running against Hasan Piker. Well, maybe then
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  Speaker 3: he'll actually come on your show. Maybe I'm doing you
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  Speaker 3: a favor then. But the guy's a beta, doesn't like
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  Speaker 3: to answer questions, and he dodges every debate. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: pretty sure he's going to dodge you too.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I need Mike Rogers on the show,
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  Speaker 4: but thanks, sir.
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  Speaker 2: All I'm going to say is this.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for booking it. Reparations.
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  Speaker 2: Do you support that?
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  Speaker 3: I think we need to have an honest conversation about
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  Speaker 3: the incredible debt that was put upon black folks as
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  Speaker 3: a function of slavery that we have yet to pay.
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  Speaker 3: And I just think that's fair. Like, if people are
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  Speaker 3: enslaved and forced into servitude, and then we don't actually
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  Speaker 3: have a conversation about all that was owed, that our
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  Speaker 3: own country agreed was owed, I just think that it's
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  Speaker 3: past time to have that conversation. That shouldn't be a
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  Speaker 3: crazy thing. You know, I understand that, like, for folks
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  Speaker 3: who really want to inflame culture war... I just think
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  Speaker 3: it's important for us to think about how do we
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  Speaker 3: make sure that communities like the city of Detroit that
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  Speaker 3: have been segregated so that you have a disproportionate number
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  Speaker 3: of people as a function of redlining who are forced
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  Speaker 3: into certain communities, how do we make sure that their
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  Speaker 3: schools are made whole?
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  Speaker 2: I'll just tell you this.
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  Speaker 3: In the city of Detroit right now, they just had
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  Speaker 3: $ 700 million invested in their schools.
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  Speaker 2: They're still $ 1.
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  Speaker 3: 7 billion behind. And a lot of folks want to say, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: that's profligacy, et cetera, et cetera. No, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: that has to do with public policy. And if public
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  Speaker 3: policy created a level in which black folks disproportionately suffer
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  Speaker 3: everything from maternal mortality and infant mortality to lack of
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  Speaker 3: access to jobs, I think it's important for our country
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  Speaker 3: to have a conversation about how we make people whole.
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  Speaker 1: You want to have a conversation about it because we
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  Speaker 1: have you on the record as backing it.
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  Speaker 4: But now you just want to have a conversation.
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  Speaker 5: I got it. I got it.
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  Speaker 4: I respect the fact that you came on.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you've really looked into some of the
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  Speaker 1: policies you're pushing.
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  Speaker 4: You seem a little naive, Abdul.
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  Speaker 1: I give you credit for facing the music, but some
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff's just straight up wacky.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if that's going to fly
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  Speaker 4: in Michigan, but we're going to find out.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's wacky? We're going to find out.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to find out.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what's wacky? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's wacky, though?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Can I just tell you? You know what you.
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  Speaker 5: Didn't ask me about?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 3: We got a president of the United States who cares
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  Speaker 3: more about the drapes in a ballroom that shouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: built than he cares about the war he just got
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  Speaker 3: us into or that he cares about the affordability crisis.
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  Speaker 3: That seems to me to be a little bit wacky.
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  Speaker 3: If we want to have a serious conversation about what
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  Speaker 3: Michiganders are feeling, I'd love to.
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  Speaker 5: Come back on and talk about getting money out of politics,
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  Speaker 5: putting money.
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  Speaker 3: In your pocket, passing Medicare for all.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do it again.
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  Speaker 5: Because I'm telling you, none of that is wacky, and
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  Speaker 5: that's what Michiganders want.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do it again, Abdul. I look forward to it, Jesse.
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  Speaker 5: It was a good conversation.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 4: Good luck in Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: See, at least I don't dodge you.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Like 25%.
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  Speaker 4: Have a good night.