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Drugs, Stalking, and Wanking Neighbours: How I Uncovered His Dark Obsession” ☠️🍆🤒 · She Rises with Ashy & Tijana

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Speaker 1: Apogee Production.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to She Rises, Freaky Friday, Go Secrets, Horror Scanning,
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Speaker 2: Mysterios Wild. Hello everybody, welcome to Freaky Friday.
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Speaker 1: It's your favorite host.
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Speaker 2: Stephanie and Tatiana.
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Speaker 1: And today I actually haven't read the story, and neither
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Speaker 1: have you, so.
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Speaker 2: Let's get into it. So today's submission goes a little
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Speaker 2: like this, and brace yourself. It's a bit of a story.
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Speaker 2: So this is my story of a stalker. It's still
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Speaker 2: somewhat ongoing. When we moved into our house, we were
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Speaker 2: told the house in complex behind us was a retirement village.
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Speaker 2: On our first night, we were very quickly realized that
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Speaker 2: it was a Department of Housing complex. The men in
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Speaker 2: the house directly behind us, we always thought was odd,
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Speaker 2: always smoking some kind of drug, listening to horrible music,
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Speaker 2: and dressing up in all kinds of weird things. He
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Speaker 2: would always be wanking on his balcony when I was
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Speaker 2: in my kitchen. He can see directly into or out
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Speaker 2: the back. I never thought anything of it, just that
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Speaker 2: he was a lonely person.
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Speaker 1: I never thought anything of it. While she's baking her
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Speaker 1: kids muffins, Oh my god, stuff. Oh yes.
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Speaker 2: One day he had a pretty violent outburst wear our
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Speaker 2: neighbor's two doors up. His neighbor was underneath him. The
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Speaker 2: police were called, and I decided to do some detective
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Speaker 2: work to see what he was charged with. I found
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Speaker 2: him on the court listings, had his full name, and
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Speaker 2: decided to do some good old Facebook stalking. There I
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Speaker 2: came across with pictures of me that he had taken. Oh.
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Speaker 2: He had written poems and songs about me, handwritten conversations
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Speaker 2: me and my husband had out the back. He knew
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Speaker 2: my kids' names, referred to being married to me for
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Speaker 2: seven years, the amount of time we had been living here.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 2: He had also made reference to being homicidal and having weapons.
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Speaker 2: We phoned the police straight away, who took it seriously.
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Speaker 2: They checked his house and he didn't have any weapons,
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Speaker 2: but he had stopped taking his psychotic meds. Is an
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Speaker 2: ice addict, and they admitted him to hospital. He broke
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Speaker 2: out the psych word and was on the run for
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Speaker 2: three weeks. What they did find him, they got him
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Speaker 2: his meds. He was also told no more waking on
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Speaker 2: the balcony.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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Speaker 2: For me, there wasn't much the police could do. They
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Speaker 2: said that I could press charges for stalking and harassment
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Speaker 2: and get an AVO to stop him posting pictures. But
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Speaker 2: I need to face him in court, so I decided
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Speaker 2: against it. We did what we could to block his
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Speaker 2: line and vision into the house, but the minute a
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Speaker 2: light goes on, I go outside, all the curtains are open.
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Speaker 2: He is looking. He has seemed to back off posting online, though, this,
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Speaker 2: along with a heap of other things the last year,
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Speaker 2: sent me into a mental breakdown. I honestly felt ashamed
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Speaker 2: and embarrassed of the situation. I did a lot of
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Speaker 2: inner work. Ashy, you have honestly helped me through some
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Speaker 2: of my darkest days, and I honestly got through it
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Speaker 2: by finding empathy for him, Like, what would this person
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Speaker 2: have had to go through to end up like this?
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Speaker 2: He must be so alone. And I remember my therapist
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Speaker 2: who started seeing when all of this went down, was
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Speaker 2: absolutely astounded that empathy is what I turned to.
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Speaker 1: Wow, so many things to say. Good on you for
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Speaker 1: turning to empathy. I commend you on that because that
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Speaker 1: is it's hard to do.
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Speaker 2: That's an incredible skill.
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Speaker 1: And she's children, that is scary. I would love to
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Speaker 1: know if there's ever a conversation about moving if it's possible, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'd be so scared to live there. Maybe it's an
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Speaker 1: option at the moment, but holy moly, that is creepy.
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Speaker 2: I thought of discovering the Facebook messages and poems and
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Speaker 2: that he had been those saying that he was married
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Speaker 2: to you for seven years. Is created a whole story,
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Speaker 2: a narrative around the life that you guys have lived together.
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Speaker 1: He must actually believe it, Like I'm not sure what's
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Speaker 1: wrong with him, but the fact he's on medication, he
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Speaker 1: must actually really believe that there are a couple.
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Speaker 2: That's terrifying who's obviously attracted to you And makes sense? No, right,
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Speaker 2: because what makes sense about all the wanking. It's like
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Speaker 2: he wasn't just wanking on the porch right at the
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Speaker 2: back because he was doing it for fun. It was
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Speaker 2: like he out of you, Oh my god. Obviously maybe
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Speaker 2: just being on drugs, there was no external awareness of
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Speaker 2: what he was doing.
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Speaker 1: I just can't even I don't know why I'm laughing,
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Speaker 1: But a guy wanking on I just know what I
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Speaker 1: would do. I think like Stephanie would come out, yeah
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Speaker 1: and be so angry, would you, Yeah, what do you
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Speaker 1: think that you would do? I would not back down
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Speaker 1: and like close my Curt and I would go out
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Speaker 1: there and say something, Yeah my children are here. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I just would be so mad and disgusted. I couldn't
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Speaker 1: stand for it.
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Speaker 2: Your muma cub would come out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'd be really angry and really disgusted
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Speaker 1: and the thought of like him doing that over me.
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Speaker 1: But what if he's doing over the children.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's a different story, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: And then I'm curious what her husband thought and did. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean you're probably scared of him, actually if he
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Speaker 1: said he's got weapons.
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Speaker 2: And obviously an ice addict or math adict all.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe I wouldn't go angry on drugs.
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Speaker 2: You'd have to be really cause the way that you
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Speaker 2: would behave in that situation, that's true. I feel like
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Speaker 2: you definitely would say something because it was a time
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Speaker 2: we were in the gym and there was this creepy
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Speaker 2: guy tell the story all the time, my god, and
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Speaker 2: just I'll be training and looking myself in the mirror
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Speaker 2: to watch my form, and I'll see him lock eyes
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Speaker 2: with me behind and not break contact all the way through.
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Speaker 2: And I just remember telling Ashy I was like, this
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Speaker 2: guy gives me the absolute dick. It's so creepy. And
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Speaker 2: we were training the gym one time. We were doing
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Speaker 2: step ups on a box and he was behind us
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Speaker 2: and we could see a glass window so we could
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Speaker 2: see his reflection, and he was staring at us, smiling
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Speaker 2: with teeth, like the biggest grin with teeth, not even
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Speaker 2: a little smirk. It was a big smile with deep
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Speaker 2: like looking through his eyebrows, like at our asses or
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Speaker 2: just at us in general. And it was he was smiling.
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Speaker 1: And he wasn't even about to do weights. He kind
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Speaker 1: of had his arms hanging up on the bars. And
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Speaker 1: I remember every step up we did, I was like,
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Speaker 1: oh god, he's here, and next time I'd be like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, he's looking at us. Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: he's smiling tea. And then I was like nope. I
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Speaker 1: turned around. I was like, can you please stop staring
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Speaker 1: at us? And he smiles back, he's oh, sorry, sorry, sorry,
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, picked up his weights and I was like, nut,
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Speaker 1: we're out of here. It was the.
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Speaker 2: Worst, but I'm so glad you said something in that moment.
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Speaker 1: And she said two things. I said, can you stop
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Speaker 1: staring at us? And he kept staring. I said no, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm serious, stop looking, and he did and then he stopped.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we were just having this internal conversation back
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Speaker 2: and forth as we're doing step ups. Oh my god,
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Speaker 2: he's looking. He's not looking away. Oh my god, the
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Speaker 2: eye contacted, it's holding for so long, and he's smiling.
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Speaker 1: We were just say, there's that other guy in the gym,
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Speaker 1: that older guy. Yes, I hadn't noticed him until you
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Speaker 1: pointed him out, and he's something at me. He's looking
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Speaker 1: at you. But I don't get as creepy vibes. I
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Speaker 1: don't know why I compared to that one, the other guy,
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Speaker 1: But this guy's older and he I don't think he
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Speaker 1: even realizes how much he's staring at you. But he's
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Speaker 1: also a bit awkward.
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Speaker 2: He's a bit awkward. Yeah, I've caught him staring once before,
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Speaker 2: but I caught him staring at you. Actually, and you
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Speaker 2: you were in like a you had your legs spread
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Speaker 2: and you would no sound that sounds bad. No, you
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Speaker 2: were stretching right, and he had the bar where you
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Speaker 2: tapped the floor.
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Speaker 1: That's quite a yeah, right, So it's a bit.
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Speaker 2: Of an intimate kind of poposing over and you were here,
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Speaker 2: I was here, and I was looking at him, looking
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Speaker 2: at you, and then I was staring at him and
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Speaker 2: he caught me looking at him, and he looked away
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Speaker 2: quickly because it cool.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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Speaker 2: You know there was one time it was in that
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Speaker 2: same time frame. I was looking at him and I
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Speaker 2: just locked eyes with him and I just stared at him,
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Speaker 2: and I was like, are you.
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Speaker 1: Not getting the hint?
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Speaker 2: Like are you okay?
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Speaker 1: And see you are?
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Speaker 2: I'm watching.
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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm more fast at my view.
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Speaker 2: He's like, oh hi, yeah, honestly.
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Speaker 1: Oh the other guy, oh my god. One more story.
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Speaker 1: That was filling up his shaker and you were doing
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Speaker 1: single oh ros and I was standing up because we
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Speaker 1: take turns obviously, and whoever's not doing the exercise is
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Speaker 1: the yupper who was doing the exercise is concentrating on
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Speaker 1: the exercise, and like probably three feet away there's a
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Speaker 1: bubbler and this guy that always says hello to you
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Speaker 1: probably fancies you building up a shaker. But as he's
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Speaker 1: filling it up, you know that look put their head
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Speaker 1: down and they're just staring. I felt like saying to him,
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Speaker 1: your shake is gonna spill, so if you keep looking,
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Speaker 1: are you right? But he didn't spill it, and I
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Speaker 1: just held back for that one. But I was like,
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Speaker 1: why did these guys? It's so obvious and so uncomfortable.
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Speaker 1: So uncomfortable of course, like your dad would not do that.
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Speaker 1: My dad, yeah, oh, not a respectful women that you
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Speaker 1: just would never catch him staring at a woman like that.
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Speaker 1: Why can not all men just think, oh, I've got
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Speaker 1: a daughter, I've got a sister, I've got someone in
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Speaker 1: my life, and I wouldn't like that happening too. Why
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Speaker 1: are they being such a creep But you know.
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Speaker 2: It's funny because there's a whole variety of men on
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Speaker 2: the spectrum. It's like, you know, we have the creepy
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Speaker 2: guy who was scaring and smiling, and then you know
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Speaker 2: we have people who were like, oh, I don't want
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Speaker 2: to make women feel uncomfortable, so I avoid looking at
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Speaker 2: them because I don't.
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Speaker 1: Want to be the creepy guy in the y.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so the whole variety of people.
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Speaker 1: But this story is crazy. Thanks for sending it in.
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Speaker 1: And I'm oh, I had a store when I was younger,
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Speaker 1: when I used to work with a supermarket. They had
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Speaker 1: to ban him from the supermarket. He started buying my
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Speaker 1: little gifts. And I was young. I didn't really think
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Speaker 1: too much of it. I just thought, oh, man, it's
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Speaker 1: interested in me. And he wasn't old, creepy old. I
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Speaker 1: was probably fifteen or six and he maybe was in
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Speaker 1: his forty a big age gap. Yeah, but he wasn't
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Speaker 1: bad looking, jog and ized car. But he started giving
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Speaker 1: me gifts, and then he started writing me letters. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Once again I was a bit flatted, I think because
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Speaker 1: I was not an attractive teenager. And wow, this man's
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Speaker 1: interested in me, and probably daddysh just too. And then
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Speaker 1: my boss started to notice that he was waiting for
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Speaker 1: me when I'd finished my shift, and a lot of
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Speaker 1: the time my parents did pick me up from work.
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Speaker 1: So my boss started it concerned and called the police.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: And when I finished work one day, he was out
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Speaker 1: there and the police came and like just escorted away
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Speaker 1: and said he's not a lot back there. I never
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Speaker 1: saw him again. Wow, I got full love letters, little
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Speaker 1: gifts grooming me.
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Speaker 2: Oh shit, Yes, Scarry's such a young age as well.
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
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Speaker 2: I haven't had a stalker necessarily, but I had a
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Speaker 2: strange experience with an nex that I was seeing it
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Speaker 2: was like a couple of months. It was in like
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Speaker 2: two months, but I remember thinking like and feeling really
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Speaker 2: confused in the relationship, and I couldn't understand why. Like
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Speaker 2: this was before I had done any self development work,
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Speaker 2: so I was very conscious. Wasn't that aware of myself.
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Speaker 2: But I just remember feeling really conflicted and confused all
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Speaker 2: the time, and I was like, what is this feeling
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Speaker 2: that I'm feeling? And it was very love bombing from
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Speaker 2: the very beginning. So we had met online, but I
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Speaker 2: kind of vetted him. So he was a friend of
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Speaker 2: my cousin's husbands, Okay, so it was through someone that
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Speaker 2: I kind of knew, and I was like, oh, okay,
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Speaker 2: you know, they used to party when they were younger.
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Speaker 2: He knows of him, they used to spend time together.
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Speaker 2: Like he's not a complete stranger kind of thing. So
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Speaker 2: I felt a little bit okay to kind of explore
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Speaker 2: it with him. From the very beginning, it was very
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Speaker 2: like love story, fairy tale Cinderella, Like he wanted to
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Speaker 2: pursue a woman and build a life and build a
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Speaker 2: fairy tale, and it was like that from the very beginning.
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Speaker 2: And then we went on our first date probably three
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Speaker 2: weeks after that, and you know, everything kind of progressed,
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Speaker 2: and it was like fine while we were in it,
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Speaker 2: but I remember trying to break up with him because
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Speaker 2: I was like, I can feel this man gaslights me.
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Speaker 2: He gaslights me when I'm with him, he's beautiful and
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Speaker 2: it's very fairy tale and do anything for me. But
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Speaker 2: then when we're not in somewhere in public where it's
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Speaker 2: presented and it's a show, he would be like the
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Speaker 2: really negative person would watch the news and yell at
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Speaker 2: the TV and get really aggressive. And I remember feeling
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Speaker 2: in my body one time, sitting at his mom's house
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Speaker 2: on the lounge, feeling like really anxious and really disregulated,
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Speaker 2: and he looked at me and he's like, are you okay?
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Speaker 2: What's wrong? What's happening?
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Speaker 1: Are you okay?
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Speaker 2: And I just remember thinking my head, oh my god,
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Speaker 2: this guy's like not who he says that he is.
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Speaker 2: And tried to break up with him three times, literally
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Speaker 2: every single time. It was sitting on the lounge having
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Speaker 2: a conversation until six o'clock in the morning, until I
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Speaker 2: was so exhausted because he just wouldn't let me. He
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Speaker 2: just he wouldn't let me leave. It was just back
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Speaker 2: and forth, but this, but this, but what about future?
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Speaker 2: What about this? And I want to have babies with you?
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Speaker 2: And literally after six weeks he was saying, you wanted
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Speaker 2: to put a baby in me and it was just
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Speaker 2: too much, too soon, and it was very hectic. Anyway, afterwards,
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Speaker 2: throughout the year after that, we had been broken up,
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Speaker 2: and he would send me emails and voice messages and
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Speaker 2: he would call me on block numbers all the time,
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Speaker 2: like I would. It would be weird if I didn't
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Speaker 2: get twenty miscalls from him. And he left me this
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Speaker 2: voice message one time when he was drunk. It was
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Speaker 2: something about like missing the way that my skin smelt
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Speaker 2: and the way that like my hair smelt, and like
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Speaker 2: the way that my skin looked when I got out
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Speaker 2: of the shower, and it just was yeah, and all
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Speaker 2: these things emails about how he watches his friends with
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Speaker 2: their kids and how that's supposed to be us, and
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Speaker 2: he planned all of that out. I ended up getting
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Speaker 2: an abo, yeah, and going through the process for like
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Speaker 2: a year and a half that sort of thing. There
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Speaker 2: was some other things, but yeah, anyway, that's like the
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Speaker 2: core of the story. It was just so intense.
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Speaker 1: That's intense yeah. When I used to live at my
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Speaker 1: old house, I often would have fans rock up to
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Speaker 1: my house, good and bad because my address was posted
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Speaker 1: into a hate page, so everyone knew where I lived.
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Speaker 1: So it was really scary. And I've been followed home
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Speaker 1: a lot of times, and yeah, it was an awful time. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: this man followed me home. I didn't realize so part
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Speaker 1: my car came back and I was home alone and
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Speaker 1: he knocked the door and I just spent answered the door,
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Speaker 1: thinking it's the postman or something, and he was like
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Speaker 1: hello as she like real creepy, and I was like Hi,
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Speaker 1: can I help you? He's like, oh, my daughter really
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Speaker 1: loves you, so I followed you home. I was like,
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Speaker 1: where's your daughter. I'd love to meet her, thinking is
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Speaker 1: she a fan? And she's shy in the car. Didn't
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Speaker 1: really think too much of it, and he's like, no,
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Speaker 1: she's not with me. I was like, okay, can I
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Speaker 1: help you with something? And he's like, I've got a
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Speaker 1: letter for you, and then gave me a letter and
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Speaker 1: it was just like big love letter confessing his love
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Speaker 1: for me. And there was no daughter. Obviously. I just
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Speaker 1: had to play his game. I was like, oh, my gosh,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much, like just say come. I was like,
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Speaker 1: thank you. I can't wait to read this. Like, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, shut the door, locked it, called Steve and
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Speaker 1: never saw him again. Oh yeah, really creepy.
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Speaker 2: I was like, fuck this Kuyd knows where I live now,
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Speaker 2: that's so terrifying.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the police can't really do something with that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they haven't actually done anything wrong yet. Yeah, there's not
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Speaker 1: much you can do. Oh so scary though, said.
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Speaker 2: Now where you live and to have said, oh, it's
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Speaker 2: my daughter and be actually daughter his obsession for you, Like,
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Speaker 2: I don't blame him, You're amazing but crazy. How's that
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Speaker 2: for a creepy bye.
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Speaker 1: Creepy freaky Friday. But we love it, we love to
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Speaker 1: talk about it, we love to hear it, we love
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Speaker 1: you bring it in. So thank you so much to
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Speaker 1: whoever that was. Yeah, and we can't wait to hear
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Speaker 1: all the other ones. So, if you have not submitted
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Speaker 1: your story yet, maybe been sitting on the fence line
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Speaker 1: and being like, oh I want to should I do it? Please?
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Speaker 1: The more unhinged better?
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Speaker 2: Yes, and absolutely as well with this submission that just
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Speaker 2: came in, we hope that it ends and that you
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Speaker 2: get to move away and that it never is a
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Speaker 2: problem with you again because it's just us.
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Speaker 1: Updates. Yeah, please love an update.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I hope it gets less and less or he moves
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Speaker 1: away when you move away. I want a happy ending
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Speaker 1: for this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, any stalker stories, bring them in, ladies.
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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much for listening on Monday. Bye
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Speaker 1: bye