Latest / Libido Lounge / Menopause Stole Her Brain — Not Just Her Drive with Andrea Donsky
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- 0:00We know that forty percent of women in this phase of life are gaslit by a medical
- 0:04professional.
- 0:05Women don't have to suffer.
- 0:06It was hell.
- 0:08It was really, really tough.
- 0:10All of a sudden, you wake up one day and you're like, woah.
- 0:13Where is my old self?
- 0:14There are a 103 plus symptoms.
- 0:16On average, women experience 31 different symptoms.
- 0:19Ninety percent of them are cognitive health, brain health, or mental health related.
- 0:24Ninety one percent of the the women who participated in this survey noticed a major
- 0:29decrease in libido or sexual desire.
- 0:32This affects everybody.
- 0:33It doesn't only affect the women.
- 0:35A lot of men are feeling like they're walking on eggshells.
- 0:41Hi, everyone.
- 0:42Welcome back to another episode on the Libido Lounge.
- 0:46I'm really excited about today's guest.
- 0:48And as you heard in our intro, Andrea Donsky is an amazing nutritionist who's gone far beyond
- 0:56what a lot of people do in their clinical career, which is that she's put together
- 1:00research.
- 1:01And we're going to talk about that research today because it really is addressing
- 1:05menopause, perimenopause.
- 1:07But men, we have something for you too because what we see is that men and women are affected
- 1:12by this stage of life.
- 1:13And what we see even more is that women, when they're affected or even men when they're
- 1:18affected, it affects the couple.
- 1:20And I say this in so many areas of my work.
- 1:22Oftentimes when things get out of balance in health, they do not happen to the individual.
- 1:28They happen to the relationship.
- 1:30And so understanding yourself, understanding your partner, understanding what they're going
- 1:35through, and understanding how to help yourself, help your partner, and help your
- 1:38relationship as you navigate through life changes and through midlife changes, I think is
- 1:44so essential.
- 1:45So whether you're listening as a woman, whether you're listening as a man, whether you are in
- 1:52the stage of life of transition, or whether you are transitioning, like, to that stage
- 1:58eventually, there is something in here for you.
- 2:01So thank you so much, Andrea.
- 2:03It's so wonderful to be with you today.
- 2:05Thank you for having me, and I so agree with you.
- 2:07This is a conversation for everybody to be had.
- 2:10It's not just for the women who are going through it because as my research shows is that
- 2:15a lot of us were in long term relationships, and especially the people who the men who
- 2:19filled out our survey were in the relationships from ten plus, twenty plus years.
- 2:23So it affects them as well.
- 2:26So the conversation is so important to be had for both.
- 2:29It really is.
- 2:30And and we mentioned something offline that I wanted to mention here too, which is this idea
- 2:35of, like, medical gaslighting, right?
- 2:39Seen so much of this, and I know you have too.
- 2:42I'm thinking of a friend right now in this moment who now she's in her mid 50s, but she
- 2:47was telling me when she first started going through menopause type of symptoms and she went
- 2:51to her doctor about it, she was told point blank, everybody goes through it.
- 2:57Suck it up.
- 2:58Like, literally, that's what her doctor said.
- 3:00And I about we were on the ski lift when she said this.
- 3:02I about fell off the ski lift with, like, her telling me the story of it because it was just
- 3:07it's, like, so severe around this thing around, like, you know, like, it's not that big of a
- 3:12deal or you just gotta get through, like, such lack of support and understanding.
- 3:16So I I that's what I think your research with many things is good for, but one of them is
- 3:22really helping people understand that this is very real.
- 3:24There's things that can be done and that you don't have to be gaslit anymore.
- 3:28So the gaslighting is very real.
- 3:30I have published research in this from December 2024 in the journal Menopause on doctor visits,
- 3:35And we know that forty percent of women in this phase of life are gaslit by a medical
- 3:40professional.
- 3:41And now, you know, I've I and we've I've heard all of it.
- 3:44You know, just deal with it.
- 3:45It's natural part of aging.
- 3:47There's nothing you can do to help.
- 3:48Like, it's just so not true anymore.
- 3:51Women don't have to suffer, and there is a lot we could be doing, especially now the research
- 3:56is showing even if we start younger in perimenopause as opposed to waiting once we
- 4:01have gone the full year, the three hundred and sixty five days without a period, that there's
- 4:05a lot we could do to help.
- 4:06Now my lane is nutrition, lifestyle, supplements, and my research, but there's also
- 4:10the option of hormones if that's what you choose to do.
- 4:14So we know and the conversation is so important because I feel like if it was men going through
- 4:20this, that they wouldn't be told that.
- 4:22Just deal with it.
- 4:23Or, like, they'd have they would have had all the solutions already.
- 4:26Right?
- 4:27So I just feel like it's an unfair thing to say for anybody to say to anyone, whether it's
- 4:32their doctor, health care professional, or a partner, a boss, like, it doesn't matter who it
- 4:36is to just deal with it because it is it's hard.
- 4:41And like so I'm a menopausal woman.
- 4:43I went through it.
- 4:44I was in perimenopause for fourteen years total of eleven of which I actually had no idea I was
- 4:49perimenopausal.
- 4:50And it was hell.
- 4:52It was really, really tough.
- 4:55And when you don't know what's going on with your body, and all of a sudden you wake up one
- 4:59day and you're like, woah, where is my old self?
- 5:02It's a very hard thing to navigate when, a, you don't know what's happening, and, b, you're
- 5:07being told, ah, it's in your head or just deal with it, or it's like minimizing how you're
- 5:11feeling, and that's just not okay.
- 5:13Exactly.
- 5:14Exactly.
- 5:14I'm going through it myself.
- 5:16I'm in perimenopause.
- 5:17I'm not fully menopausal yet, but I haven't had a menses now in three months.
- 5:21That's my longest one so far.
- 5:23We'll see if I make it all 12 or if I get another one.
- 5:26But it is.
- 5:27It's crazy.
- 5:28I remember my first hot flash, I was actually getting on a plane, and it was, like, like, the
- 5:33amount of intensity with it.
- 5:35It was like, you know, as soon as I could sit down, I was, like, in as few of clothes, and my
- 5:40pants rolled up, my socks off, like, you know, my shirt tucked up into my bra and like all of
- 5:45it.
- 5:45It's just it's so I mean, that's just one of so many symptoms.
- 5:50And that one in many ways, it's like the easiest one.
- 5:53It's not easy from a symptom, perspective, but it's easy from a standpoint of like, oh,
- 5:57there's so much knowledge around this that at least when women go through hot flashes, it's
- 6:02like usually there's a level of like, I wonder if this is happening.
- 6:05But so many times we're not making those connections.
- 6:08So tell us about like the initial let's kind of set the stage around like your research.
- 6:13Like what were the questions with your research?
- 6:15Like what were you trying to solve or learn?
- 6:18Walk us through kind of like the goals, the initial goals of what and what you solved by
- 6:23doing the study.
- 6:25Yeah.
- 6:25So I mean, to your point of, you know, we don't make the connection that we know is, you know,
- 6:30women are going to their doctors and their health care providers and saying, okay.
- 6:34So I have this symptom or that symptom.
- 6:36And a lot of the time, it'll take women anywhere seventy five percent of women have to
- 6:40see their doctor anywhere between two and five plus times before any connection is made.
- 6:44Because when we think about symptoms of perimenopause and menopause, like you said, the
- 6:49first thing that is generally connected to it are hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings,
- 6:53sleep issues.
- 6:54Like, these are very common and very well known symptoms that have that connection.
- 6:58And it was the connection that I made to make me realize, oh, wait a second.
- 7:03At 47, when I got my first hot flash, oh, wait.
- 7:05Maybe I'm in menopause.
- 7:06Like, I'd never even knew perimenopause existed, and that's when I first made that, oh,
- 7:12wait a second.
- 7:13Oh, okay.
- 7:13So maybe that's why I just had this intense in like, inferno in my body like you explained.
- 7:18It's like, whew, that, you know, that and I had it for many, many years.
- 7:22So what made me decide to wanna do the research was years ago, I was at a party with my
- 7:27husband, and we ran into an old friend of mine.
- 7:30And I we were kinda getting caught up on what we were doing, And I asked her what she was up
- 7:34to, and she said that she was creating an app for menopause symptoms.
- 7:37And at the time, I was like, an app?
- 7:39Like, don't you need a lot of symptoms?
- 7:41Like, I was one of those people that I thought,
- 7:43oh, wait.
- 7:43There's, five or six.
- 7:44Like, how many could there be?
- 7:45She's like, no.
- 7:46No, Andrea.
- 7:47There's, like, 34 to 40 different symptoms.
- 7:49And I was like, really?
- 7:51That's a lot of symptoms.
- 7:52I didn't even realize that there were that many.
- 7:55And she's like, yeah.
- 7:56Yeah.
- 7:56No.
- 7:56There are.
- 7:57So I was like, okay.
- 7:58And the way my body works, Diane, is like, literally came home that night, and I was like,
- 8:02I'm gonna create a document, and I'm gonna I'm gonna, like, start tracking what these symptoms
- 8:06are.
- 8:07And soon enough, I realized that there were way more than 34 to 40.
- 8:11There were about 80 to 85 different symptoms.
- 8:13And that's when I kinda thought, wait a minute.
- 8:15I've got this incredible community.
- 8:17I'm gonna go to my community and ask them what type of symptoms they're experiencing.
- 8:21This was, like, years apart.
- 8:22Anyways and I quickly learned that there are a 103 plus symptoms.
- 8:27So that's what made me decide to launch our first our first survey, which is our signs and
- 8:31symptoms survey, and that was published in December 2024 in the journal menopause.
- 8:36And we now know that it's old data to say that there are 34 or 40 symptoms.
- 8:41There are a 103 plus And the reason why this is so important is to your point of now we can
- 8:48validate women, and we can support women, and we could say, oh, okay.
- 8:51So maybe you have itchy ears.
- 8:54You've gone and you've got it you had everything checked out.
- 8:57No one can find a reason for it.
- 8:58Now let's look at it being a possible perimenopause or menopause symptom.
- 9:02Same thing with phantom smells.
- 9:03These are when you smell things that other people don't.
- 9:06I have them for many years.
- 9:07I had I had them checked out by several different doctors, and it always came back of
- 9:12we don't know what's going on.
- 9:14So now we know, okay, it can be a perimenopause or menopause symptom.
- 9:17So it gives us the vocabulary and the knowledge to be able to seek treatment options now that
- 9:23we have and we know that there are actually these could be symptoms of perimenopause and
- 9:28menopause.
- 9:28Yeah.
- 9:29It's so great too because when you're thinking of, you know, or saying things like phantom
- 9:33smells, I'm thinking about my own experience of I started having phantom smells right around
- 9:39the time that COVID was around.
- 9:41And so it was interesting, right, because we knew that people had loss of smells.
- 9:45But for me, it was like, oh, this I I was having this experience of, like, this smell
- 9:50that was very it was, almost like cigarettes mixed with burning metal is how I would
- 9:55describe it.
- 9:55Not if you're going to have a phantom smell, not a pleasurable one to have for sure.
- 10:00But what's interesting and why I think it's super important in your surveys is because so
- 10:04many times, there can be other explanations for these symptoms.
- 10:08Right?
- 10:09So if you also look at my history, that smell correlates perfectly with when my hormones
- 10:15started to change.
- 10:17So that, you know, it's like this whole idea of understanding and why I really encourage people
- 10:22to go take the survey is that it's so easy to have these symptoms and for your doctor, your
- 10:28care provider, even yourself to just, even if you're not being gaslit, to just go down
- 10:33another route and just be like, Well, this is an explanation or that's an explanation,
- 10:37without even considering perimenopause or menopause being the reason because of, like
- 10:42you're saying, like a lot of people think of the five to six or maybe even 35 to 40, but
- 10:46we're missing 60 or 70 of these types of symptoms that could be that.
- 10:50So really encourage everybody to go take that survey so you learn this, and we'll have that
- 10:55in the show notes for you.
- 10:57So what else did you find?
- 10:58What else once you did the survey, what tell us more about the findings.
- 11:01Yeah.
- 11:02So interestingly enough, we have a survey on phantom smell.
- 11:05So when you're saying that you were smelling things burning, it's actually the number one
- 11:10smell that women in perimenopause and menopause have.
- 11:13So something burning.
- 11:14Yeah.
- 11:14So I've so the reason why we launched our phantom smell survey was because it was one of
- 11:18my first symptoms, and I wanted to understand it better.
- 11:22So we now have, I think it's like almost 1,300 responses to the survey, and by far, over
- 11:28seventy percent of women say they smell something burning.
- 11:30So it could be cigarette smoke, cigars, campfire, burning metal.
- 11:35So you've said like what you're saying, it's very common.
- 11:37Burning electronics.
- 11:39So anything burning toast, burning cough, burned coffee, anything burning is a very
- 11:43common one.
- 11:44So that was something that I found super interesting that women, you know, they'll come
- 11:49up to me and they'll say, you know, oh, like, I have like this I I've called the gas, you know,
- 11:53the gas company.
- 11:54They've come in and, like, I've heard crazy stories about phantom smell.
- 11:56So that's why I'm very passionate about making that something that women know about because
- 12:00it's very scary.
- 12:01I And always like you said, like, some women have said they reported it around COVID.
- 12:05It could be allergies.
- 12:06Like, it could be different things.
- 12:07So that's why I'm always like, to your doctor, get your clean bill of health, and then come
- 12:10back and be like, okay.
- 12:11Now let's look at it possibly being a perimenopause symptom.
- 12:14The other thing that we found through our research, it's pretty fascinating.
- 12:18So there's quite a few things.
- 12:19Number one is that on average, women experience 31 different symptoms.
- 12:23So we're talking about not one or two different symptoms.
- 12:26We're talking about a large number of symptoms, which a lot of women are and this we're talking
- 12:32on average 31 different symptoms, which is a lot.
- 12:35We also know that the top 10 out of the top 10 most common symptoms, 90% of them are cognitive
- 12:41health, brain health, or mental health related.
- 12:44Ninety percent.
- 12:45That is something that when we saw the results from our survey for that, were like, woah.
- 12:49Like, think about physical symptoms, and it manifests physical symptoms manifest for women
- 12:55in menopause more so they do in perimenopause.
- 12:57Perimenopause is very much about the cognitive, the brain health related symptoms, the mental
- 13:02health symptoms.
- 13:03But that was a huge eye opener for us to be like, woah.
- 13:06Ninety percent, nine out of 10 of the top 10 most common symptoms are that are, like, mental
- 13:12health related.
- 13:13And that was, like, a huge eye opener for us.
- 13:15Yeah.
- 13:16I think it's a really important thing for people too because it's so often too, this time
- 13:21of life, midlife is usually one of the most chaotic times stress wise for people.
- 13:25A lot of people are still at the combination of being at the height of careers oftentimes,
- 13:31combined with still having children in the house of varying ages, and having done that for
- 13:36years, oftentimes that combo.
- 13:37So I think it's very, very common for people from a standpoint of brain fog or where did I
- 13:43put my keys and those kind of things.
- 13:44I think it's very common for people to be like, Well, I'm just stressed.
- 13:47And it's like, Well, their stress could be worsening menopause and worsening periating
- 13:51could be part of
- 13:51the
- 13:51picture, but it's just kind of like we blame things on aging, or I'm like, Oh, I'm just
- 13:56getting old, or I'm just stressed.
- 13:58Oftentimes we're missing like a core, core piece of it.
- 14:01Yeah, exactly.
- 14:02So and that's where the you know, even on you know, for ourselves, a lot of us will say, oh,
- 14:08like not even other people telling us, right, that we're stressed.
- 14:10We're making up excuses.
- 14:11And that's where it's like, oh, wait a second.
- 14:13Our hormones are changing.
- 14:14Maybe we can do something about it so that we don't have to suffer.
- 14:17Like, it's not just aging or it's not just stress.
- 14:20We do know, however, though, that stress and anxiety are very real for women in
- 14:25perimenopausal menopause.
- 14:26I have another survey that's published on that, that 66 of women are more stressed now than
- 14:32they were before they went got into perimenopause and menopause and were less able
- 14:35to cope with it.
- 14:36And that's true for women in general.
- 14:38We're definitely we feel the effects of stress a lot more so than men.
- 14:42And then once we go into menopause, we we feel it even way more.
- 14:46It's like, it's intense for some of us.
- 14:49Yeah.
- 14:50For sure.
- 14:50For sure.
- 14:51I think, you know, one of the gifts that women have that is a gift, like every gift I think we
- 14:57have is like it's you have your silver lining and then you have your dark side of it.
- 15:00And one of the things I think we're so good at is multitasking is because women have this more
- 15:04diffuse awareness where we can take in so much information at one time versus the masculine
- 15:11brain, due to hormonal reasons and other is much more focused in orientation.
- 15:16And so I think for the woman who's used to multitasking and then with this change, all of
- 15:21a sudden all this information comes in, and it's almost too much for the brain to deal
- 15:27with.
- 15:27And it's just so easy to get into that overwhelm.
- 15:31Yeah.
- 15:31Completely.
- 15:32And it's just that's where managing stress and learning things that help to mitigate that
- 15:38stress is really important, and doing what you can to help bring at bring down those stress
- 15:44levels.
- 15:44Those cortisol levels are gonna make a big difference because chronic stress can lead to,
- 15:48like, pain in your body.
- 15:49Right?
- 15:50Inflammation, mood swings, depression, blood sugar issues, sleep issues, fatigue, low
- 15:55libido.
- 15:56Like, it's all connected.
- 15:57So doing what you can to manage stress is really important.
- 16:00I agree.
- 16:01And I want to talk about two things in particular.
- 16:05One, what you learned about with midlife in this time of life and libido and sexual health.
- 16:11And then two, what you learned about as far as like the man and the man, the relationship
- 16:16component of things and what you have seen in your surveys and research around relationships.
- 16:21So happy to start either place.
- 16:23Yeah.
- 16:23So, well, so the first one, let's talk about the libido one.
- 16:26So I was published with Doctor.
- 16:28James Simon.
- 16:29He's actually a really well known sexual health doctor, gynecologist for more than forty years.
- 16:34He's amazing.
- 16:35And he's my co author, and we were published on libido and perimenopause and menopause in the
- 16:40December 2025 issue of the journal Menopause.
- 16:43And what we found is that ninety one percent of the the women who participated in this survey
- 16:49noticed a major decrease in libido or sexual desire, and sixty six percent noticed a
- 16:56reduction in their ability to achieve orgasm.
- 16:59So and when we actually stratified it by menopausal status, we found that women in
- 17:04menopause were even more so than women in perimenopause to have low libido.
- 17:08Mhmm.
- 17:08So that was a big eye opener for us.
- 17:11And then and I mean, not really because we do know that it's it's the number six most common
- 17:15symptom on the list of a 103.
- 17:17So it's up there within the top 10.
- 17:19So it's a very real issue.
- 17:21And what we also found is that we ask women if they're talking to other people about it.
- 17:26Like, they sharing how they're feeling?
- 17:28And we know that health care providers, seventy six percent or seventy seven percent of women
- 17:33are sharing it with their doctors, and then their partners or spouses about seventy two
- 17:38percent.
- 17:38And then it drops
- 17:39than I would have thought.
- 17:41Yeah.
- 17:41So then from there, which is interesting, it drops off significantly to about forty five
- 17:45percent that they share it with friends.
- 17:47So that just shows you the amount of, you know, the the importance for doctors and partners to
- 17:53understand what's happening so that they can help them because they're the first two people
- 17:57that they're being spoken to about it.
- 17:58Right.
- 17:59And maybe the only people in over 50% of the time, it sounds like.
- 18:04Yeah.
- 18:05Okay.
- 18:05Then did you learn anything else about men specifically, or is it more just focused on the
- 18:10relationship side of things?
- 18:11So in this survey in particular, I have another survey that I was published in on for men's
- 18:16perspective of menopause.
- 18:17But in this survey, this was more so the women's perspective and understanding what
- 18:22they're going through and how they're feeling.
- 18:24Interestingly enough, about, you know, for those who were when they shared how they were
- 18:29feeling, the responses that they got from the people that they were sharing it sharing it
- 18:33with were told the number one thing they were given to do was saying to use lubrication.
- 18:39So that was interesting in terms of like how to help them.
- 18:41So using lubrication, hormone therapy other than vaginal estrogen was a big one.
- 18:47And then also twenty two about twenty two percent were told to engage in sexual activity
- 18:52regardless of desire, kind of framed like it's their marital duty, which we thought was really
- 18:57interesting.
- 18:58And then about eighteen percent were prescribed antidepressants.
- 19:01And then, you know, from there, women were advised to go on dates with their partners or
- 19:05spouses, were told to use a vibrator, were told to use it or lose it, and were encouraged to
- 19:10try supplements.
- 19:11So like there were different pieces of advice that were given, but using lubrication was the
- 19:15number one.
- 19:16That's really interesting.
- 19:17I'm curious, like, did your survey look at, like, more details around, like, how this stuff
- 19:24was set at all?
- 19:25Was it simply and it might not have gone into that detail, but, you know, very because it's a
- 19:30very different thing to have a conversation with somebody and like, hey.
- 19:33Use some lubricant and give, like, a long explanation and talk about how this could still
- 19:38be part of the lovemaking and, you know, how to frame it to your partner and talk to your
- 19:43partner and different lubes to use and where you can still make it sexy and foreplay.
- 19:47And there's like so many ways we can actually like turn this into a real education, event.
- 19:53But my guess, it was more like just lose some use some lube and kind of it.
- 19:56Was it do you know?
- 19:57Was it like quick answers like that?
- 19:59I wanted
- 19:59to take a quick break from our podcast to say, did you know that arousal and desire are
- 20:05different for women and men?
- 20:07Many women think they are no longer interested in sex, for example, because they are waiting
- 20:13for their brain to think about having sex when they need to get into their body first.
- 20:19So often, we think we are sexually incompatible or there's desire discrepancy simply because we
- 20:26do not know the differences in how men's and women's brains are programmed around sex and
- 20:33how to work them to our advantage.
- 20:36In addition, communication breakdown, busyness, habits, routines, boredom, lack of novelty, and
- 20:42so many things drive people to have passion less or less passionate long term relationships
- 20:52than they used to have.
- 20:53This is fixable.
- 20:55And I show you how to do all of this and more in my hot monogamy society.
- 21:01You can find links in the show notes below.
- 21:04I hope you will join me to discover and explore how to bring passion back.
- 21:10And you can do this as a couple, but know that even if it is just one of you that is
- 21:16interested in joining us, there's so much magic that can happen, so much change and improvement
- 21:23by one person taking the initiative to bring passion back into the relationship.
- 21:30Now, let's get back to our episode.
- 21:32Yeah.
- 21:32So it was quick answers, but it's interesting that you say that because when I interviewed
- 21:35doctor Simon from my podcast after we were published, he had a he had a very similar, I
- 21:41guess, way of looking of looking at it that you did.
- 21:44And he was like because when we first heard about it, we have another coauthor.
- 21:47Her name is Marcella.
- 21:48She we were like, use lubrication.
- 21:49Like, that's just like, you know, just do it kind of like anyways.
- 21:52But he his take was your take in the sense of, well, this is a way that we can actually do it
- 21:58to help the woman and the couple, you know, feel better about it.
- 22:02And because vaginal dryness is such a major issue for women, that that is one of the big
- 22:07reasons that they're avoiding sex altogether was is because it's painful.
- 22:11It hurts.
- 22:11Right?
- 22:12So his take was kind of coming from that more of a positive look at it as opposed to just,
- 22:17like, use lube and just do it anyways kind of thing.
- 22:20Yeah.
- 22:20So but, no, we didn't look into it.
- 22:22But I do feel like it's it's an important thing to address because of the fact that it can feel
- 22:27like glass.
- 22:28Right?
- 22:28Like, vaginal dryness is such a major issue.
- 22:30I mean, it was one of my major issues.
- 22:32I Same.
- 22:33Get it.
- 22:33Yeah.
- 22:34Same.
- 22:34And it does not feel like sandpaper sex is, like, definitely cancels it.
- 22:39Yeah.
- 22:40It's
- 22:40pretty brutal for sure.
- 22:42So, okay.
- 22:43So then did you look at I know you, in your work, you do a lot as far as solutions and
- 22:48lifestyle and that sort of thing.
- 22:50Did you guys cover that in your surveys and your research at all?
- 22:53Was the surveys more focused on just kind of understanding the problems that sort of thing.
- 22:59It was more an understanding what the problems were.
- 23:01And then in terms of the solutions, I talked to Doctor.
- 23:04James Simon in-depth about that on our podcast.
- 23:07And I'm sure you have a lot of advice for that too.
- 23:09Yeah.
- 23:10But I want to hear from you.
- 23:11So tell us a little bit.
- 23:12So for your standpoint of, like, your, you know, people that come to see you and clients,
- 23:17like, what are your do you have top, like, tips and tricks to tell us about?
- 23:21Well, I think, I mean, I'm not a practicing practitioner, but from what I, you know, what I
- 23:27understand and from the women and from personal experience, the biggest thing would be
- 23:31something like vaginal estrogen can be very helpful.
- 23:35And I know that that's very much out there right now.
- 23:37A lot of people talking about it.
- 23:38There's another product that has a DHEA base called Jelva that I really like that you could
- 23:43use that as well.
- 23:44Yeah.
- 23:44I'm a big fan of Anna Kabeka's.
- 23:46Same thing.
- 23:46Yeah.
- 23:47She's amazing.
- 23:48So there are things definitely like hyaluronic acid, vaginal moisturizer, like things like
- 23:52that that can help.
- 23:53Doctor doctor Simon was talking about certain medications that can help from a, you know,
- 23:58standpoint of getting your libido back.
- 24:00I always say too, for me, understanding your blood work is really important.
- 24:05So for example, like if your thyroid is on the low side, you know, sex is probably the last
- 24:11thing you want to be thinking about.
- 24:12So go to your doctor, get your vitamin d levels checked.
- 24:15So we know the number one symptom of perimenopause and menopause across the board,
- 24:19with more than seventy two percent of women experiencing it, is fatigue, exhaustion.
- 24:23So if you're tired, well, let's go to let's look at the low hanging fruit.
- 24:27It could it be that your levels of vitamin d are really low?
- 24:30Could it be your thyroid is out of whack?
- 24:32Maybe you need to have you know, maybe you're hypothyroid.
- 24:34Right?
- 24:35Have hypothyroidism.
- 24:37Maybe your b 12 is low.
- 24:38Maybe your iron is low.
- 24:40So these these are important blood markers that I say go to your doctor, get it checked out,
- 24:45because if those are low hanging fruit, that could be one of the reasons maybe you're
- 24:49exhausted and not in the mood, and maybe that can help now.
- 24:51So there are different things that you could look at that can help.
- 24:55Now, obviously, it's actually interesting because in my book, which comes, you know,
- 24:59which comes out May 5, is we talk a lot about that.
- 25:02I talk about libido with doctor Faye Weisberg.
- 25:05She's she's an OBGYN, and she helps women with laser rejuvenation for the vaginal tissues,
- 25:11vaginal area, and women who have lichen sclerosus or different things that are
- 25:15happening in the vaginal area.
- 25:17So there are different things, modalities that you can get help with depending what your issue
- 25:22is.
- 25:22So if it's the fatigue, look into the blood work.
- 25:25If it's actual, like, vaginal dryness, look into the things that we discussed.
- 25:29Right?
- 25:29And then there's the whole mindset.
- 25:30Right?
- 25:30The whole mental health part of it.
- 25:32Like, a lot of women are gaining weight in this phase of life.
- 25:34We're not feeling good.
- 25:35Our our, you know, the way we feel about ourself, our self esteem has plummeted.
- 25:40So there it's so multifactorial, which is something I know that you talk about all the
- 25:44time.
- 25:45Like, it's not just one thing.
- 25:46There's so many things that are affecting our sexual desire, our ability to orgasm, and all
- 25:52of that, that it it sometimes it takes more than just one thing.
- 25:55It takes a few different things to look into.
- 25:57Yeah.
- 25:57And I wanna make sure to take a moment.
- 25:59I'm gonna comment on all of that.
- 26:00I wanna make sure take a moment, though, and tell everybody about one of my favorite
- 26:05strategies for this, which is the penis and the clitoral pump.
- 26:08So a lot of people aren't really like, don't even realize that just like men who need blood
- 26:13flow to their penis, which does often, like, start to decline with age naturally.
- 26:18Almost every man's going to experience a level of erectile dysfunction if he lives long
- 26:22enough.
- 26:22But the same thing's for the female, for the clitoris, for the vagina, for all of the female
- 26:27genitalia, is that we need blood flow too.
- 26:30Part of sandpaper sex can be all these things we're talking about, hormones and etcetera, but
- 26:35it can also be blood flow.
- 26:36And so the reason I love these pumps from doctor Joel Kaplan is there's tons of sizes.
- 26:40I just have two here for the video.
- 26:43But what he does is he he helps to measure, and he has a system online where you measure
- 26:47yourself, and you're measuring for what size you need.
- 26:51And what that does is a lot of the other products on there use like this gasket at the
- 26:56bottom, which will acutely help with blood flow, but chronically actually put pressure on
- 27:02the area that is the vasculature to the genitalia, and that actually causes a long term
- 27:09reduction in blood flow.
- 27:10So acutely can fix it, but chronically can cause more problems.
- 27:13But when you get ones that fit exactly for you, not only have they been researched for acute
- 27:20problems, but they've also been researched for chronic problems to really help restoring that
- 27:24blood flow both to the penis as well as to the vagina and clitoris for women.
- 27:29So everybody, you can find information about that in my show notes below as far as coupon
- 27:34codes and everything you need.
- 27:36You know, but back to kind of what you're talking about here and like thinking about,
- 27:40okay, solutions and ideas.
- 27:41I love your advice on like, hey, go, you know, we got to get the blood work done.
- 27:45We got to look at some of these basics around these conditions that tend to be out of balance
- 27:50around the midlife time like the thyroid.
- 27:54I want to know a little bit more about your book and, like, like, what is what kind of
- 27:59things are in your book?
- 28:00What are you discussing, like, the surveys in more detail?
- 28:03Are you discussing, like, more solutions?
- 28:05What's all happening in your book?
- 28:06Yeah.
- 28:07Thank you for asking.
- 28:08So the book covers everything in my lane, which is nutrition, lifestyle, supplements, my own
- 28:12research.
- 28:13And so chapter there's the intro chapter, which really goes through the different stages
- 28:18because we know according to our research as well is about twenty percent of women don't
- 28:22know what stage they're in.
- 28:23They don't know if they're in perimenopause.
- 28:24They don't know if they're menopause and postmenopause.
- 28:26And I kind of go into a little bit of definitions because it's really important that
- 28:31we set the stage to understand what's happening.
- 28:33Because once you know, then you can kind of decide what treatment option you want to go
- 28:37for.
- 28:38Then chapter two is all about my research.
- 28:40So I talk about our signs and symptoms research.
- 28:42I talk about our our anxiety, and I also talk about our sleep research because sleep is the
- 28:47third most common symptom, and I go into why we're not sleeping.
- 28:50So again, all published research.
- 28:51Then chapter three talks all about symptoms, all the different.
- 28:55I don't just list the symptoms.
- 28:56I literally dive deep into the different ones, why they're happening, and we group them
- 29:00together and explain why they're happening so you can actually do something about it.
- 29:05And then we also talk about sleep.
- 29:07I talk about the nervous system.
- 29:08I talk about why we gain weight.
- 29:10There are 17 different reasons we gain weight in perimenopause and menopause.
- 29:1417 different reasons.
- 29:16You don't hear that anywhere else.
- 29:17No.
- 29:18No.
- 29:18You don't.
- 29:19And the reason I talked about it, and I'm very sensitive how I talk about it.
- 29:22I mean, I'm a Gen Xer, and I grew up in the era of don't eat any fat and make sure, you know,
- 29:26you're watching every calorie that you put in your mouth.
- 29:28Right?
- 29:29Like Yeah.
- 29:29So I wanted to be very sensitive in talking about it because a, it's a very real issue for
- 29:36women.
- 29:36It is the one of the top reasons when it comes to quality of life that women are just not
- 29:40feeling good about themselves.
- 29:42So I wanted to talk about it openly, but from a point of view as, okay, what can we do it?
- 29:47Here's what's happening to our body physiologically.
- 29:49Here's why we're gaining weight, all the 17 different reasons, and here are things that we
- 29:53can do to help it.
- 29:54And I and I also want women because a lot of us, including me, when I was gaining weight, I
- 29:59gained 20 pounds in perimenopause.
- 30:01When I was gaining weight, I was like, oh, it's me.
- 30:03It has to be me.
- 30:04I'm not eating properly.
- 30:05I'm not exercising enough.
- 30:06Like, was very hard on myself.
- 30:08And it's one thing I want women to take away from my book is it's not a it's not you being
- 30:13hard.
- 30:13Like, I don't want you to be hard on yourselves.
- 30:15It is not your fault.
- 30:16There are things going on in your body.
- 30:18It is a full body shift that is happening in your body in perimenopause and menopause.
- 30:23So I don't want women to ever blame themselves for anything because I did for so long.
- 30:27And especially because I was a nutritionist in the health and wellness space, I was even 10
- 30:31times harder on myself.
- 30:32So I just don't want anyone to blame themselves for anything.
- 30:36And then I talk about nutrition, a lot about nutrition.
- 30:38I have three chapters on nutrition, on how to eat, what macros to go for.
- 30:43You know, here's the interesting thing.
- 30:45When I was in perimenopause, because I didn't know what was happening to my body, once I
- 30:50realized what was going on, I had to relearn a lot of things.
- 30:54And that's the key for this book is I relearned so many things that I thought I knew.
- 31:00And in in relearning, I now teach everyone who's reading my book everything that I learned
- 31:06because I went through it.
- 31:07I'm I'm in menopause myself.
- 31:09I've been in menopause now six years.
- 31:10Like, I've been through it.
- 31:12I was in perimenopause for fourteen years, like I said.
- 31:14So, like, I have been down the same journey that so many of you are in, and I relearned it
- 31:20all.
- 31:20So you don't have to spend the years learning the what the amount of time and money and
- 31:25effort and just everything that I went through, I done the work for you, so you don't have to
- 31:30spend the time doing it.
- 31:31All you have to do is read it and then adapt what works for you, and that's the key.
- 31:36And I also have a whole chapter on exercise.
- 31:38So it's like we have to like, that's another thing we have to relearn.
- 31:41And when you were on my podcast, you said something that I absolutely loved.
- 31:45And you had talked because I was talking about relearning things, and you were like, we also
- 31:49have to relearn sex.
- 31:50Yeah.
- 31:51And I was I've I've repeated that so many times.
- 31:53I'm like, I love that you said that.
- 31:55It was so great because it wasn't something that I was, like, talking about.
- 31:59I'm like, we have to relearn exercise.
- 32:00We have to relearn nutrition.
- 32:01We have to relearn, you know you know, how we manage stress, but we also have to relearn sex.
- 32:06We do.
- 32:07It's so great that you said that.
- 32:08So thank you for that, by the way.
- 32:10Oh, my pleasure.
- 32:11And I I just I love how much you emphasize the relearning because I think it's so easy to just
- 32:16get to this point in our life, right, in our forties and fifties, and they're like, well,
- 32:20we've been in these bodies a long time, and it just feels like we should know our body.
- 32:25And that's, I think, the biggest thing is with this transition for women as well as men,
- 32:30because of andropause and changes in hormones for them and changes in all sorts of
- 32:34neurochemical and signaling molecules in their body, we all have to relearn.
- 32:40These are not the same bodies in our 40s and 50s that they are in our teens and 20s and 30s.
- 32:44And I think high level people get that.
- 32:48Right?
- 32:48High level people might understand like, oh, yeah.
- 32:50I can't, you know, have alcohol like I could back then.
- 32:52I can't miss sleep like I could back then.
- 32:55So, you know, high level, I think there's a level of, like, people understanding that in
- 32:59little ways it shows up in their lives.
- 33:01But I I love your emphasis on this around, like, it really is.
- 33:06We are relearning, like, the entirety in many ways of lifestyle and what it is like to be in
- 33:11this new body, this new version of ourselves.
- 33:14And so I'm wondering in thinking about supplements and nutrition.
- 33:20I know you mentioned you love DHEA, and I know you're not in the clinical world on some of
- 33:26this.
- 33:26But from your research, if you were to say besides DHEA with what you've seen and what you
- 33:32wrote on in your book, is there one nutrient that you say that you could specify besides
- 33:37that, that you're like, oh, yeah.
- 33:38This is what you see coming up as one of the most strongest things that is needed in your
- 33:43research?
- 33:43Have you found anything like that?
- 33:45Oh, yeah.
- 33:45So supplements is is my jam.
- 33:47So I am I spend a lot of time researching ingredients for supplements.
- 33:51So DHA is a hormone, so that's more in like the hormonal world.
- 33:55From a supplement standpoint or nutrient standpoint, absolutely.
- 33:58So I always say that there are three nutrients that we need in perimenopause and menopause
- 34:03that are nonnegotiables.
- 34:05Number one is magnesium.
- 34:07Number two is fish oil or omega threes, and number three is fiber.
- 34:10And we need those for so many different reasons.
- 34:13Number one, magnesium is because we're more stressed now than we were before, when we're
- 34:19stressed, we deplete magnesium from our body.
- 34:22When magnesium is depleted, we become more stressed.
- 34:24So it's so important for our nervous system.
- 34:27Magnesium is also really great for helping with sleep.
- 34:30So magnesium bisglycinate, I absolutely love it.
- 34:32There's so many different types of magnesium you could take, but I love bisglycinate just
- 34:36because I kind of look at it with the as the magnesium with the red cape.
- 34:39It's that superhero, and it helps with sleep.
- 34:43When you take it before bed, it has the amino acid glycine that helps us to relax into sleep.
- 34:48Magnesium is also crucial for brain health.
- 34:50We need it.
- 34:51We know the research shows now that women who have with cognitive decline have lower levels
- 34:56of magnesium than those without it.
- 34:58So it is a nonnegotiable.
- 35:00Absolutely not.
- 35:01And it's responsible for over 600 enzymatic functions in our body processes in our body.
- 35:06Nonnegotiable.
- 35:07And we don't get enough from our food because our soil is depleted of magnesium and many
- 35:12minerals, but also our digestive system changes and shifts as we go into perimenopause and
- 35:17menopause, and we may not absorb as much of it.
- 35:19So we need a good amount of magnesium.
- 35:21And the research for the magnesium for brain health was on five hundred and fifty
- 35:25milligrams.
- 35:26The RDA for a magnesium supplement is 300 and So we need to make sure that we are getting it
- 35:31from our food, our leafy greens, our salmon, our avocados, like making sure you're eating
- 35:36your magnesium rich foods and also taking it as a as a therapeutic dosage in a supplement form.
- 35:43Fiber, really crucial because most of us are not even going to the bathroom like once a day.
- 35:48We need to make sure and most of us aren't getting even 50% of the fiber we need.
- 35:52We need about twenty five to thirty grams a day.
- 35:54Making sure we're getting enough fiber helps to get rid of metabolized hormones, undigested
- 35:58food, things our body no longer needs, and going to the bathroom once a day is really
- 36:03crucial.
- 36:04So if you're not going to the bathroom once a day, and even if you are, you still need fiber.
- 36:07Like, you still like, I've had women who say, I don't need to take fiber.
- 36:10You know, I go to the bathroom at least once a day or once every couple days.
- 36:13I'm like, it doesn't matter.
- 36:14Fiber also helps you absorb your nutrients better.
- 36:17It also helps it acts like a broom in the body, like your insoluble fiber when you're getting
- 36:21that from your food.
- 36:23Soluble fiber can help prebiotic soluble fiber can help to feed the good bacteria in your gut.
- 36:29That good bacteria is really important.
- 36:31You want the a nice ratio of that beneficial bacteria because that's what helps our immune
- 36:37system.
- 36:37It helps with mood.
- 36:38It helps with so many different things.
- 36:40So we want to make sure we're getting enough, enough fiber, and then omega threes are really
- 36:45important also.
- 36:46Brain, hair, skin, heart, sleep, like, you name it.
- 36:49So those are my top three that I spend a lot of time researching.
- 36:53I love it, and I want our listeners to know too on magnesium.
- 36:58Do not rely on your standard blood panels for your magnesium levels because what we see is
- 37:04for so many people, your intracellular levels, the levels of magnesium that's inside your
- 37:08cell, is dramatically different than what is in your blood.
- 37:14So if you are testing, it's really important to work with a clinician who's actually testing
- 37:19your intracellular levels.
- 37:21And because what I see so many times when it comes to things like magnesium, some of our
- 37:25basic nutrients is people run their standard panels.
- 37:28I'm like, well, you know, I know I listened
- 37:30to this podcast and Andrea said
- 37:31I need it, but I also have this blood work that says, no, I'm good, so I won't, you know, do
- 37:35that.
- 37:35And, none of us, I think, want to take supplements unnecessarily.
- 37:40But if you're doing this from a medical perspective, just make sure you're actually
- 37:43getting those intracellular levels run because otherwise you could have very mixed messages on
- 37:49what your body actually needs.
- 37:51Only 1% of magnesium is in our blood.
- 37:53So you're wasting your time and your money, to be honest, like measuring it unless you
- 37:57absolutely have to.
- 37:58Like, you will know first of all, we all need more magnesium.
- 38:01Like, I'm just gonna say that.
- 38:03Like, you we all need more magnesium.
- 38:05And if you you're you'll know if your body needs more magnesium as well.
- 38:09Like, you might get eye twitches or restless legs or heart palpitations.
- 38:13Now it could be other things as well, but I know myself.
- 38:15As soon as if I'm, like, super stressed or I need more magnesium or I'm not getting enough,
- 38:19like, I need a certain amount of magnesium a day.
- 38:21When I don't get it, I will feel it.
- 38:23My legs will start to cramp up or my eye, my left eye will start to twitch.
- 38:28So my body will tell me I need more.
- 38:30But regardless, we all need more magnesium.
- 38:33Yeah.
- 38:33I agree.
- 38:33We burn through it so much when we're stressed, so super important.
- 38:36What about macros?
- 38:38So as far as that part of what you've learned about this time of life, macros, diet, I know
- 38:44you cover it a lot in your book, but any, like, high level advice from the diet perspective you
- 38:49could share?
- 38:49Yeah.
- 38:50So we wanna make sure that we are getting enough protein.
- 38:53That's really important.
- 38:55So I actually have a formula in chapter 11 that talks about how to figure out what your macros
- 38:59are for perimenopause and menopause.
- 39:02And, you know, getting enough fiber like I talked about was really important as well.
- 39:06And then your carbohydrates.
- 39:07Like, what type of carbohydrates do we wanna be eating now?
- 39:10And and everybody's really different when it comes to carbohydrates.
- 39:13Like, some women can have more than others.
- 39:16So you're just listening to your body depending.
- 39:18We need carbohydrates because we need it for sleep and for our thyroid health and for
- 39:21different things.
- 39:22So it is important that we get enough of them, but the type of carbohydrates we get are really
- 39:27key.
- 39:27And then how much are we eating in a day?
- 39:30So these are just things to keep in mind, especially if your energy levels are low or
- 39:34you're looking at from a weight perspective.
- 39:36So I go deep into that in chapter 11.
- 39:38I actually have something called the balance blueprint in chapter 11, which is what I've
- 39:42relearned to say, okay, as a nutritionist for more than twenty years and and actually, the
- 39:48woman who wrote the book with me, her name is Lisa Sacco, has also been she's been a
- 39:51practicing nutritionist for thirty years.
- 39:54And we wrote this together, chapter 11.
- 39:57And what we found was there are seven principles that we need to look at as we go
- 40:02into perimenopause and menopause.
- 40:03So balancing blood sugar levels, adding more fiber, loading up on protein, it's called the
- 40:08balance, adding good quality fats like those omega threes, nurturing digestion, choosing
- 40:12more plants, and ensuring you're hydrated.
- 40:14Those are the seven principles that we should be always looking at in terms of how do we look
- 40:20at ourselves now that we're in perimenopausal menopause, and how do we look to eating?
- 40:24How are we getting those macros?
- 40:26So I break it we break it down in a really simple way that isn't overwhelming by any
- 40:31means.
- 40:32And we also say that you are the captain of your own ship.
- 40:35Listen to your body.
- 40:36I don't care what anybody tells you to do or not to do.
- 40:39At the end of the day, it's your body.
- 40:41You listen to yourself and make the decision that's best for you and the body, the vessel
- 40:46that you live in.
- 40:47Yeah.
- 40:48I think that's such good advice.
- 40:49Like, I I think so many people are out there preaching this, okay.
- 40:53This is the one best diet.
- 40:55Right?
- 40:55And that nothing drives me more crazy than, like, you know, we have some principles, like,
- 41:00you know, eat anti inflammatory foods.
- 41:02Make sure you get enough protein, like you said, like, you know, fiber.
- 41:06Like, there's some general principles that I think are pretty universal.
- 41:10But as far as the details around, okay, what is the specific, you know, fat protein carb ratio
- 41:16for you and that sort of thing, that is gonna be a little bit individualized.
- 41:21And and it does change.
- 41:23Like, I've seen too many women in particular at this time of life that do, like, a ketosis.
- 41:29A keto.
- 41:30A keto diet.
- 41:32And in the keto or not keto, it's a ketogenic diet.
- 41:35And in the keto diet, so many women I've seen, like, blood work hormones crash.
- 41:40They get super wacky.
- 41:42Their thyroid gets out of balance.
- 41:43They gain even more weight.
- 41:46Stereotypically, I've actually seen men do way better than women on the keto diet.
- 41:52But of course, that's not across the board.
- 41:54So point being, there are also women that I know do okay on that.
- 41:58So there is a bio individuality, and I just really appreciate that you and your work focus
- 42:03so much on the rules and the principles, but also emphasize listen to your body because I
- 42:08think that's just the most essential advice.
- 42:11Oh, yeah.
- 42:12I'm very passionate about that because everyone's an expert.
- 42:15Right?
- 42:15Everyone thinks they're an expert, but at the end of the day, you're the expert.
- 42:18Nobody So else is the you have to decide what's best.
- 42:21And, yeah, their general principles to me are eating whole foods and making sure that we're
- 42:26getting enough hydration, like all the things or the balanced blueprint.
- 42:29I mean, these are general principles that I don't think everyone's like, woah.
- 42:33I never thought of that.
- 42:34I mean, these are what to look at in terms of guidelines, and then I go through why each one
- 42:39is important.
- 42:40And and here's the thing too.
- 42:41Why it's important now in particular in perimenopause and menopause is very different
- 42:46as to why it was important before we got here.
- 42:49And the one thing about me, Diana, is like I just as an educator and a researcher, I want
- 42:54everyone to understand what's happening to their body because people can tell you what to
- 43:00do, but you have to understand because it's your body that you're living in.
- 43:03So like you understanding why are you taking a particular supplement or why are you eating
- 43:07this particular food?
- 43:09Yeah.
- 43:10I mean, we're all busy and we all have a lot going on, but I want to empower you.
- 43:15Because at the end of the day, I want you to understand why you're doing something.
- 43:19Because when you understand how to do something or what you're understanding why it is
- 43:22something can help you or maybe not help you, then you can make the decision that's best for
- 43:27you.
- 43:27Because understanding like, I I've seen women who've showed me their their cupboards and be
- 43:31like, okay.
- 43:32I'm taking, a thousand supplements.
- 43:34And I'm like, no.
- 43:35I don't want you to take it.
- 43:36Why are you taking it?
- 43:36I don't know.
- 43:37Someone told me to.
- 43:37I'm like, don't take a thousand things.
- 43:39Take what you need now.
- 43:41Because believe me, I I am I have a supplement company.
- 43:44I am all over supplements.
- 43:45I 1000% believe we need to take supplements, but you can't out supplement for nutrition.
- 43:51Right.
- 43:52And you want to take supplements for us now.
- 43:54Like, would take supplements that maybe have been great for me before perimenopause or
- 43:58menopause, but now it's going to hit differently.
- 44:01So that's why I spend my time researching because I want you to take what's going to be
- 44:04good for your body in this phase of life, not where you're coming from.
- 44:08Exactly.
- 44:09Couldn't have said it better myself.
- 44:11What have we not said today that you want to conclude with?
- 44:14Is there anything that we left out that you think is super important to say?
- 44:17I think just from the perspectives of men and their you know, how do they look at like, for
- 44:22to help them when it comes to their partners in perimenopause and menopause.
- 44:25So I did a talk in front of a thousand people.
- 44:28And afterwards, someone a guy came over to me, and he was like, I need your help, Andrea.
- 44:32And he's like, my wife won't even acknowledge that she's in perimenopause.
- 44:36I know she is.
- 44:37It's destroying my marriage.
- 44:38What can I do?
- 44:39And at that point, I was like, you know what?
- 44:41I'm going to launch a survey to help understand what's what are men's perspective?
- 44:45Like, what are they going through?
- 44:46Because like we talked about kind of full circle moment is that this affects everybody.
- 44:51It doesn't only affect the women.
- 44:53And, yes, men can have andropause like you alluded to before, but at the end of the day, a
- 44:57woman going through perimenopause and menopause is going to affect the relationship, and we saw
- 45:01that, the impact in our research.
- 45:03We know that it's it's a huge impact on relationships.
- 45:07So understanding so men when when we ask men kind of like how are they feeling when their
- 45:12wives are going through this, I launched this in honor of that man who came up to me.
- 45:16And what we found is that a lot of men are feeling like they're walking on eggshells.
- 45:21They're feeling that they're not loved.
- 45:22They're feeling they're just in the way.
- 45:24They're trying to do what they can to help their partners, but they just don't know what
- 45:28to do.
- 45:29And that was a big eye opener for us in the sense of the men, their partners I mean, sure,
- 45:34there's a whole bunch of partners of like, go get a younger wife and, you know, like you have
- 45:37those when you post on social media.
- 45:39You have, you know, people that come out with their comments.
- 45:41But for the most part, the men were definitely wanted to help, and they wanted to make a
- 45:46difference.
- 45:46They just didn't know how.
- 45:48And that's why my book so for any men, if you're listening, get the book because the book
- 45:55get it for yourself and get it for your wife or your partner because it's going to make a
- 45:59difference.
- 45:59It's going to explain a lot.
- 46:01And I even quote, I have a whole chapter on mindset, which we didn't even talk about.
- 46:05I have a whole chapter on chapter 12 is just on mindset and understanding what's happening in
- 46:11relationships, understanding how to talk to each other.
- 46:14And I do say that it's up to both the women and the men, the partners, both partners, to have
- 46:19that open dialogue and to have that open communication and to have the vocabulary, which
- 46:24is what my book provides.
- 46:26It's the book I wish I had when I was going through it.
- 46:29Right?
- 46:29Having the words, having the vocabulary will make it that much easier to get through this
- 46:35stage that you're in that you might be finding very difficult right now.
- 46:39Yeah.
- 46:39Thank you.
- 46:40Love every every ounce of this conversation.
- 46:43I hope you guys will get Andrea's book.
- 46:45It just came out, so make sure you go into the show notes and get that.
- 46:49And then also, really go take this survey that she gave, you know, gave as well.
- 46:53So that's a totally free survey, and I think it's just going to give you such a good
- 46:57awareness of the big picture of this and definitely serve as a starting point also to
- 47:02how to of how to talk about this because now you're gonna recognize these things, you know,
- 47:06in yourself and your partner, and you can have a, you know, productive conversation on this as
- 47:11well.
- 47:12I wanna make sure that people know about some of your other offerings.
- 47:15We'll have everything again in the show notes.
- 47:17But what else did you wanna let people know about as far as other offerings of yours?
- 47:21Well, if they wanna download the list of a 103 plus symptoms, then they can you can definitely
- 47:26do that.
- 47:26The link is in the show notes, and then that will help women just know like, okay, so here's
- 47:31and and the list is it's also in the book, but it's a PDF that you could download that has
- 47:36little boxes next to it that your partner or if you're a woman, you're listening right now, you
- 47:41could tick them off and then bring them to your doctor.
- 47:43And then you could be like so it just saves you so much time.
- 47:46It empowers you when you're going to your health care provider or your doctor to be like,
- 47:50this is how I'm feeling.
- 47:51This is my body, and these are the symptoms that I'm going through.
- 47:55So you can definitely download that PDF just to make it easy for yourself.
- 47:59Amazing.
- 47:59Thank you so much for your time, everybody.
- 48:01I hope you will go get this book, these resources.
- 48:04Make sure you are not subscribed yet.
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- 48:12So thank you again for listening.
- 48:14Thank you, Andrea, for being here, and we'll see you all really soon on another episode of
- 48:19the Libido Lounge.
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