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[18/25] The Flight of the Garuda — Session 16 (Nov 2021) · Lama Lena Teachings

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  SPEAKER_02: I'm curious, how many of you see the Christmas trees?
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  SPEAKER_00: The Christmas trees?
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  SPEAKER_02: I see Christmas trees back there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Perceptions are fascinating, aren't they?
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  SPEAKER_02: How about I start on YouTube before people get terribly impatient looking at me
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  SPEAKER_02: and my Christmas trees, my imaginary Christmas trees.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Facebook can catch up when it gets there.
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  SPEAKER_02: YouTube is usually where most people watch this.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: Facebook is not used much except by the far right these days.
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  SPEAKER_02: Chukku kunduzongo gomboin,
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  SPEAKER_02: dorji sempa garab dorji dang,
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  SPEAKER_02: shere singgibardushin labde, de damabzantata tusum chi, zogchen jupelamala solwadev.
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  SPEAKER_01: .
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  SPEAKER_01: .
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  SPEAKER_01: .
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  SPEAKER_01: Na Pupadang Palden Drupasu, Kajgyu Lama Namla Soluadeb,
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  SPEAKER_01: Ochen Lama Namla Soluadeb,
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  SPEAKER_01: Kagenwari Lama Namla Soluadeb.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sakya Lama Namla Soluadeb.
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  SPEAKER_02: Nindu Dao Yundrun Lama Namla Soluadeb.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to quickly review last month's chapter,
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  SPEAKER_02: which was 17, and then move on to the cautions of 18, which are really important.
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  SPEAKER_02: Otherwise, you'll do yourself a mischief.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're always doing ourselves mischief with our practice.
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  SPEAKER_02: Most of it's recoverable.
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  SPEAKER_02: Glasses.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll just hold it farther away.
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  SPEAKER_02: The instructions are to go alone to a forest or mountain hermitage.
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  SPEAKER_02: What that means, all you householders, is leave home.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can't do this in your house as a householder.
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  SPEAKER_02: Not this stage.
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  SPEAKER_02: You see, in your house is your to-do list.
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  SPEAKER_02: Get away from it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Go camping.
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  SPEAKER_02: Minimly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Abandon work and dwell at ease.
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  SPEAKER_02: When hungry, eat.
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  SPEAKER_02: When tired, rest.
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  SPEAKER_02: When thirsty, drink.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's enough.
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  SPEAKER_02: Kusulu.
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  SPEAKER_02: One who knows how to do three things very well.
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  SPEAKER_02: Eat.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sleep and shit.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because everything beyond that is just recreation.
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  SPEAKER_02: Toys and playing with them.
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  SPEAKER_02: All those lovely clothes that need to be washed and ironed ad infinitum.
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  SPEAKER_02: That marvelous house that needed to be decorated And dust the decorations
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  SPEAKER_02: and change them up seasonally.
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  SPEAKER_02: Toys to play with.
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  SPEAKER_02: Your collection of fill in the blank here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Arrange it.
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  SPEAKER_02: The accumulation of stuff in the closet.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sort it.
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  SPEAKER_02: It does not end the recreations you can get yourself up to to avoid resting at ease.
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  SPEAKER_02: Look at your life.
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  SPEAKER_02: All you really have to do is eat, sleep, and shit.
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  SPEAKER_02: Those you gotta do.
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  SPEAKER_02: No way around it.
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  SPEAKER_02: The rest of it, Not necessary.
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  SPEAKER_02: The rest of it's part of the five poisons.
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  SPEAKER_02: How much of it do you do for status and for how you appear to others?
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  SPEAKER_02: How much of it do you do out of desire for having it one way and wanting it to be for strength?
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  Okay.
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  Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Testing, one, two, three, testing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that part's good.
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  SPEAKER_02: We may be live again.
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  SPEAKER_02: Did you enjoy just not doing for a minute?
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  SPEAKER_02: Not listening, not thinking.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, YouTube's back.
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  SPEAKER_02: Or did you think about your to-do list and plan what you'd do later?
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  SPEAKER_02: Or quick get up and run and go get a...
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  SPEAKER_02: Cupcake, piece of chocolate, itch, scratch, take a piss.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: The trick is,
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  SPEAKER_02: at least for a little while,
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  SPEAKER_02: try letting go of all your ambitions, not just the big ones.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to buy a house.
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  SPEAKER_02: I wanted this.
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  SPEAKER_02: I wanted that.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to leave the country.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to do this.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to get that cleaned out.
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  SPEAKER_02: The little ones.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think I would like egg salad for lunch.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
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  SPEAKER_02: Maybe I should put that away in a different way.
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  SPEAKER_02: If I move this from here to there, it leaves a cleaner picture.
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  SPEAKER_02: Those are the little ones.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're always fixing something.
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  SPEAKER_02: Try letting go for a little while.
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  SPEAKER_02: Not meditating so you can get enlightened.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're trying to fix something with that.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're thinking you're not enlightened.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's a thought.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're having a belief system.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you want to change that to being enlightened.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's Karim, Path of Accumulation, not Zorgrim.
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  SPEAKER_02: Relax.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let go.
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  SPEAKER_02: Leave it be.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just the way it is in this moment.
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  SPEAKER_02: And this moment and this next moment, because it's changing of its own accord.
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  SPEAKER_02: The molecules are moving.
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  SPEAKER_02: The birds are singing.
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  SPEAKER_02: The leaves are fluttering.
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  SPEAKER_02: The leaf falls.
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  SPEAKER_02: One less leaf on the vine.
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  SPEAKER_02: Change will occur.
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  SPEAKER_02: You don't have to make it do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: When the mind is free of all ambition, All the supports of your belief systems, the doings.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is the Dzogchen vision.
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  SPEAKER_02: Abide in a state of non-meditation.
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  SPEAKER_02: Realize Dzogchen's goal of non-attainment.
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  SPEAKER_02: As you rest this way, living the vision,
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  SPEAKER_02: Do not become entangled in judgment.
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  SPEAKER_02: Such as, I am enlightened or I am not enlightened.
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  SPEAKER_02: Those are judgments, they're thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_02: You all by this time know what thoughts are made of.
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  SPEAKER_02: Stop believing the little suckers.
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  SPEAKER_02: Really.
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  SPEAKER_02: Relax.
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  SPEAKER_02: All the fluctuations of perception will occur.
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  SPEAKER_02: You will experience thoughts, feelings, physical sensations.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do not try to fix that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Leave that just as it is.
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  SPEAKER_02: No thing, nowhere.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you are ripe,
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  SPEAKER_02: you will wander off and just do this in the dream as the dreamer of the dream and as
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  SPEAKER_02: the dream being dreamed.
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  SPEAKER_02: And there will be no need to return or worry about how you will eat, drink, sleep, or shit.
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  SPEAKER_02: For when the body's ready to shit, it will do so.
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  SPEAKER_02: When you need sleep,
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  SPEAKER_00: you will sleep.
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  SPEAKER_02: And food arises sufficient to maintain the life.
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  SPEAKER_02: Fasting is not harmful
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  SPEAKER_01: for a bit.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you are not quite ripe and ready to fall from the tree at a touch of a word,
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  SPEAKER_02: then try this for a month,
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  SPEAKER_02: a week,
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  SPEAKER_02: a weekend.
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  SPEAKER_02: A day, an hour, five minutes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Go outside, sit on a bench, get out of your house with all your stuff that maintains your image.
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  SPEAKER_02: Go sit on a wall, a bench, a rock.
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  SPEAKER_02: Five minutes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't do.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't meditate.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't refrain from meditation.
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  SPEAKER_02: Relax.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't think.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't avoid thinking.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't suppress thinking.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let go.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is all what your previous chapter is about.
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  SPEAKER_02: Try it.
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  SPEAKER_02: For whatever amount of time your momentary of this moment ripeness permits
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  SPEAKER_02: without judging it whether you did it well or poorly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Those are thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh yes, I was able to do it for five minutes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: Those are thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can thank them, but you don't have to believe in them.
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  SPEAKER_02: Emma Ho!
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  SPEAKER_02: Listen only, beloved children of my heart.
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  SPEAKER_02: Listen with your ears, attentive and calm.
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  SPEAKER_02: Set the sweet melodies of this vagrant minstrel Tsongdrograndrol upon
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  SPEAKER_02: the white peaks of your heart with sweet-voiced maiden.
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  SPEAKER_02: Very flowery, wasn't it?
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  SPEAKER_02: He always does that in the first paragraph.
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  SPEAKER_02: Bit of Twilight speech there.
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  SPEAKER_02: We have established all the experience.
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  SPEAKER_02: We have established, I need my glasses.
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  SPEAKER_02: There they are.
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  SPEAKER_02: Much better.
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  SPEAKER_02: I can actually see the text.
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  SPEAKER_02: We have established that all experience is the one taste of emptiness.
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  SPEAKER_02: Have you?
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  SPEAKER_02: For yourself?
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  SPEAKER_02: Because that's important.
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  SPEAKER_01: The itching on the end of my nose, beside my nose, going up my nose,
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  SPEAKER_02: is not really real.
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  SPEAKER_02: It is a sensation,
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  SPEAKER_02: a physical sensation of the skin combined with ideas about what that sensation is
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  SPEAKER_02: and that I need to do something about it and that's an itch so I'm going
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  SPEAKER_02: to scratch it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Those are ideas.
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  SPEAKER_02: With a feeling of dissatisfaction about the itch and then I
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  SPEAKER_02: scratch the itch.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you see how that works?
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  SPEAKER_02: And yet all experience, all sensations, thoughts and feelings arise in mind.
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  SPEAKER_02: They have never been made of anything other than mind.
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  SPEAKER_02: When they're done happening, they dissolve in mind and cannot be found in any place.
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  SPEAKER_02: Even while they are happening, they cannot be found in any place.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, it's not in my nose.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's in my mind.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you know this?
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you know this?
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  SPEAKER_02: If not, sit on your cushion and examine thoughts,
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  SPEAKER_02: feelings, and sensations in that order until you do know this.
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  SPEAKER_02: When we have established all experience is the one taste of emptiness,
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  SPEAKER_02: we have no attachment or aversion to samsara or nirvana.
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  SPEAKER_02: We in our basic personalities are attached to samsara, attached to being who we think we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is 16.
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  SPEAKER_02: Martin, turn your page.
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  SPEAKER_02: We are attached to this with all of ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_02: To ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to be me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to be free to be me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to be acknowledged as me, accepted as me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Really?
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  SPEAKER_02: That's so important to you?
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  SPEAKER_02: But you won't be you in another 10 minutes.
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  SPEAKER_02: You'll be the you of 10 minutes from now.
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  SPEAKER_02: Maybe you're heterosexual right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: That changes.
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  SPEAKER_02: You better hope it changes if you're female and you get much past 50.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because it's really hard.
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  SPEAKER_02: All the good guys are taken.
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  SPEAKER_02: What you're left with is kind of dregs at that point.
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  SPEAKER_02: The few good ones still out there, there's way too much competition.
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  SPEAKER_02: The 30 year olds will catch them.
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  SPEAKER_02: Better hope you start liking women.
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  SPEAKER_02: What I'm pointing out is that everything you think is you that you want accepted.
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  SPEAKER_02: Is gonna change if not in this life, in the next one or the one after that.
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  SPEAKER_02: You don't stay the same.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're not gonna be the same when you're an aardvark.
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  SPEAKER_02: Or a penguin.
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  SPEAKER_02: Or a beetle.
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  SPEAKER_02: Or a god.
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  SPEAKER_02: Shifting, shifting, maturing, changing.
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  SPEAKER_02: How can you be so attached to it?
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  SPEAKER_02: The error of apprehending external entities as either aliens or allies,
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  SPEAKER_02: enemies or allies or strangers,
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  SPEAKER_02: enemies or friends,
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  SPEAKER_02: Only happens because you think you are you and then you're making
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  SPEAKER_02: the damn judgments.
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  SPEAKER_02: No self or other guy dichotomy arises in any situation.
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  SPEAKER_02: All things are known as the one taste of emptiness.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is where the experiencer
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  SPEAKER_02: The experiencing and the experience said are recognized as not separate.
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  SPEAKER_02: For example, last night I had a dream.
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  SPEAKER_02: It had many complex ins and outs of it.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was one of those purely recreational dreams that I enjoy sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_02: All of that was not separate.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was each and every character in the dream, although at the time I was not aware of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Upon awaking, I remember the perspective from every direction.
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  SPEAKER_02: Although each character in that dream specifically was only themselves at that time.
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  SPEAKER_02: In reality, there was no separation.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was my dream after all.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, it wasn't out in the dreamtime interacting with real people.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was having a recreational dream.
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  SPEAKER_02: I wanted one.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'd been working hard yesterday.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's okay to choose to just have a holiday in the dreamtime sometimes and go do something fun.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, I'm not telling you what it was.
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  SPEAKER_02: Kind of kinky.
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  SPEAKER_02: From the beginning, Buddha or full awareness is the one taste of reality.
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  SPEAKER_02: In the Zogchen dimension, there is no distinguishing between gods and demons.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's a Tibetan saying, what's the difference between a god and a demon?
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  SPEAKER_02: Whether or not you like You personally like their agenda.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you don't like their agenda, then to you they're a demon.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you do like their agenda, you might consider them your god.
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  SPEAKER_02: I can think of many commonly subscribed to deities.
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  SPEAKER_02: That appeared demonic to me and to others who subscribe to different deities.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's just whether or not you like their agenda.
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  SPEAKER_02: Personally, I try not to get involved with deities.
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  SPEAKER_02: They've all got an agenda.
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  SPEAKER_02: I like my own agenda.
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  SPEAKER_02: What we call the one taste of emptiness is the lack of separation between self and other.
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  SPEAKER_02: In the land of Zogchen, there are no Buddhas and no sentient beings.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know how I'm always talking about all Buddhas of the four times?
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  SPEAKER_02: The past,
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  SPEAKER_02: the present,
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  SPEAKER_02: the future,
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  SPEAKER_02: and outside the time-space continuum,
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  SPEAKER_02: which is sometimes euphemistically called the fourth time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Beyond the beyond, thus gone, which is the meaning of the word Buddha.
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  SPEAKER_00: Live there with me.
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  SPEAKER_02: All you have to do is relax.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let go of all your maintenances.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, I don't mean take a shower, avoid taking a shower when you stink.
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  SPEAKER_02: It is the little maintenances of your person now separation from all phenomena.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's a doing actually.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't bother with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Leave it be.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, you can still go to work and do the laundry.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just don't grab it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have the oddest feeling I'm going over people's heads.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that could be because I have been reading a Twilight speech text for a few days,
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  SPEAKER_02: which is almost over my head,
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  SPEAKER_02: which is why it's been slow going to get it into actually making sense.
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  SPEAKER_02: Or it's not really sense.
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  SPEAKER_02: But anyway, are there questions?
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's take a pause and see if you're keeping up with me here.
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  SPEAKER_00: One question is,
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  SPEAKER_00: how does the non-doing apply when others need us to do things or
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  SPEAKER_00: when we experience strong feelings that lead us to say or do something
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  SPEAKER_00: towards others?
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  SPEAKER_02: First of all, why would your strong feelings lead you to say or do something towards others?
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  SPEAKER_02: When you have a strong feeling, that is a sensation.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sit and enjoy it.
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  SPEAKER_02: It'll pass.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't suppress it,
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  SPEAKER_02: but certainly by acting on it, you're just trying to get rid of the strong feeling.
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  SPEAKER_02: Accept your strong feeling.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's called working with emotions.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's a retreat on it.
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  SPEAKER_02: The first part of that you asked is when others need us to do things?
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  SPEAKER_02: No, they don't.
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  SPEAKER_02: They simply need to think you're doing things for them.
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  SPEAKER_02: They'll have their own thoughts anyway.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you mean that your baby needs you to pick it up, but don't you automatically do that?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's not a doing if it just happens as an accord without separation.
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  SPEAKER_02: You think not doing, I think, from this question is refraining from doing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Nuh-uh.
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  SPEAKER_02: Not doing is relaxing into the automaticity of the natural state
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  SPEAKER_02: of not being separate between the doer, the done, and the deed.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the done too, where it simply occurs.
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  SPEAKER_02: Rika.
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  SPEAKER_02: Reki, not rika.
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  SPEAKER_02: Remember that prayer, the long mandala offering?
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  SPEAKER_02: Recky, the fence that goes around the universe,
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  SPEAKER_02: which in twilight speech means the pattern of the space time continuum.
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  SPEAKER_01: You aren't.
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  SPEAKER_02: So instead of trying not to do, which is just going to get you into trouble.
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  SPEAKER_02: Relax into your doings.
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  SPEAKER_02: Contemplate Bodhisitta.
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  SPEAKER_02: Allow that natural state of open-hearted,
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  SPEAKER_02: great-heartedness to arise and follow it to its absolute culmination.
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  SPEAKER_02: Which is Sambhogakaya nature of mind, the very life force of the universe.
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  SPEAKER_02: Reki is the pattern of which karma is a symptom.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: And yet it is also the pattern in which all life
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_02: achieves the semblance Experiences
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: and tells itself the story of achieving enlightenment which it has always had.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_02: If
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: you think you're enlightened,
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_02: you're having the same oops as if you think you're not enlightened.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_02: What is that oops?
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_02: You're believing your thoughts.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: They're not real.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: They're not made of any substance.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_02: You cannot set a cup of coffee down on one.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_02: Nor can you keep one for more than an instant.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_02: Try it.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_02: Hold that thought.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: No, you're thinking about holding that thought with a whole bunch of thoughts, aren't you?
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: Instead of trying to not do,
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_02: relax into the innate natural doing,
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_02: which will eventually arise spontaneously without the separation of doer,
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: deed, and done to.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see if there is another question.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: There are a couple.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: One question had to do with something you mentioned in passing and
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: that we actually talked a lot about yesterday,
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: which is what is twilight speech text?
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_00: Why is that important?
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: Certain texts,
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: especially in the Tanjore,
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_02: which is generally
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: where I've run into them, are written in twilight speech so that since the Tanjur is available
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: for anyone who's literate to read,
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_02: you can't do them without the oral instructions or the ability
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_02: to decipher twilight speech.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_02: Twilight speech is in symbols.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_02: So if twilight speech tells you
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: to put your Dorji In a lotus blossom,
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: in a white lotus blossom,
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_02: do not go get the dorgie on your altar and go find a lily pad with a blooming lotus
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_02: and stick the dorgie in the lotus.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's talking about consort practice.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: When you offer When you do Nundro, you learn a lot of the patterns in Twilight Speech.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's one of the benefits.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_02: The first teacher who showed me how it worked was Yeshidwarji over in Dharamsala,
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: the Rainmaker,
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_02: because most of the magic alchemic texts are written in Twilight Speech.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: It's fun stuff.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: I'm making preparations for Kuru Kuli next weekend,
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: and I found this whole Kuru Kuli text out of the Tanjore,
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: which you don't really need a lung for to read.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_02: And it's all in Twilight Speech,
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_02: so I decided to read it to see what was in it and what might be useful as part of
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_02: the teachings.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's slow going.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_02: This is not twilight speech,
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_02: except a little bit in the first preamble where it uses symbolisms.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: Mostly this is in direct language, which is why it's so beautiful.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's what twilight speech is.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_02: If you do the full set of ordinary and extraordinary nundro,
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: you will have learned about Half to three quarters of it.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_02: The symbolism used in Twilight Speech.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_02: So that you know what the hair of a rabbit is.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, the horns of a rabbit or the hair of a tortoise.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_02: They're interchangeable in Twilight Speech.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: So if you are instructed to go get some and mix it with some other substances,
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_02: you will understand what that text is actually telling you to do rather
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_02: than run around all over the world trying to get very difficult
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: to acquire substances.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_02: They symbolize either certain salong activities or certain meditative activities.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's twilight speech.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's rarely spoken of.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: I learned about it because I happened to walk in on one of my teachers
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: who was reading a text in it,
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_02: read a bit of it to me out loud,
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_02: that's before I could read Tibetan, and said, what do you think it says?
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I answered,
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_02: And he fell off his throne laughing because I'd read it straight out instead of
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_02: from Twilight's speech.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_02: And then he explained to me what Twilight's speech was and what that paragraph actually said.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_02: It was my first encounter with it.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there was a... Let's see.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: You talked about gods and demons.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: How would you explain the god the Christians believed in?
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_02: Over open internet, I would not.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_02: Not being a Christian, it is not for me to explain that.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: What is the meaning of cunni?
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_02: Darmata.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: Chuni, like semni,
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: beyond Dharma,
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_02: the culmination,
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_02: it's often given as a name,
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_02: where all beings of the three realms and all Buddhas of the four times
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_02: are
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_02: the same exact essence.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_02: That's my agenda.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_02: Fortunately, it will have always been so, so it is an effortless agenda because I'm lazy.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_02: Or have they given up on them?
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, not at all.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_00: Is being in the fourth time And the secret refuge, the same thing.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: On an outer level, yes.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_02: They point to the same thing.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_02: Both are words, euphemisms.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's not the finger, it's where it's pointing.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: Does non-duality of subject and object mean, quote, without any sense of self at all?
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_00: End of quote.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_02: Not exactly.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_02: That is limited.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_02: It is without this.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: It is an absence of sense of self.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: It is not that.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_02: It is...
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_02: I am bad on words today.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_02: My apologies and my name is supposed to be able to talk.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_02: Not living up to it at the moment,
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: looking for words for
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_02: what beyond subject and object means in the form of sense
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_02: of self.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_02: There is, okay, all ises and isn'ts aren't.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_02: Take that, that's sara.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_02: Contemplate that.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_02: In regard to whether there is or is not a sense of self at that stage.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_02: The Buddha gave 84,000 teachings without saying a single true word.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_02: I am pointing in complete opposite directions.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_02: I'm pointing at the same
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_02: Thing, the end of my nose.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_02: Finger is not the nose.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_02: Follow where the words point, don't grab the words.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wait, here it is.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: How does something immaterial such as consciousness communicate
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: with something material such as the brain?
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_00: Is it energy?
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: What makes you think the brain is material?
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_02: Suggest you who are asking this question go read quantum physics.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_02: Brain's made of matter.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_02: What's matter made?
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_02: Little bits of nothing.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_02: Moving.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_00: Matter is a thought.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_02: Go read some quantum physics to explain the nature of matter.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's in your own language.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_02: If you want it in the Tibetan context,
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: go try Alexandra David Neal's Secret Oral Teachings of Tibetan Mystics.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's probably out of print.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_02: It was her least popular book.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_02: And it does talk about the nature of matter.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_02: Have fun.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: Any suggestions as to how to relax into the natural doing while we do our work?
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: I guess they're talking about ordinary work.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_02: Stop fretting about it.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_02: Relax on your cushion.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_02: Find mind with mind.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_02: Rest in the innate ineffable open awareness.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_02: When your session is done, get up and go about your life without changing anything.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_02: Rest in ineffable open awareness.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: Whether you are doing or not doing or somewhere in between,
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_02: rest in ineffable open awareness.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_02: Let it become a habit.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_02: Whenever you find it wearing off, sit down.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_02: Return the attention of mind to mind itself, mind seeing mind.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_02: Get up again.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_02: Go about your affairs.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_02: Mind seeing mind.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_02: As written by Garabdurji at all times in all circumstances,
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: notice the already known dharmakaya nature of mind.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_02: This is the second word of Garabdurji referred to as gam.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: By that method, You can do this.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_02: One more and then I'm going back to the text.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_02: Feels like people are catching up.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: How do you reconcile the indestructible drop which seems to imply an individuality
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: with non-duality and one Dharmakaya only?
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_02: What do you think the indestructible drop is?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_02: I understand it to be tiggly, the innate creativity of mind.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_02: And fail to perceive the conflict here that you are pointing at.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: So come back to me and define.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_02: Indestructible drop sounds like twilight speech.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_02: So define to me what you think that means.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_02: And then we'll talk further about it.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to go back to the text while you attach that to your previous post.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: And we'll go to it when I've read you a bit more text.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay?
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_02: Nyanda, would you be willing to accumulate another coffee for me?
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_02: Of course.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's a multi-coffee morning.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_00: Indeed.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_02: When we realize this Dzogchen vision all constructs pertaining to the gross
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_02: and subtle planes of the three doors subside, Three doors, body, speech, and mind.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_02: You all know that, yeah?
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_02: And thereafter,
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_02: like tangled wood made manageable by moistening when you're spinning
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_02: and
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_02: your wool won't slide smoothly into the stream and you just moisten it a little,
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_02: some drops of water.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_02: Especially if you're spinning in the grease,
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_02: this will allow it to be manageable and you can make the cord.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_02: The three doors, body, speech and mind, reach a state of quiet, self-directed responsiveness.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_02: The best way to explain this is out of some Mahamudra terminology.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_02: By practicing
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: intentionally
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_02: stillness of mind
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_02: and recognizing how the moving arises
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_02: in stillness as stillness and resting in that the personality which changes
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_02: by its experiences Your personality is changed by the experiences you have in life,
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_02: right?
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: So as you more and more experience the dance of stillness at all times and
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_02: in all circumstances, this changes you into the dancing stillness.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_02: And permits the one taste of non-separation of self and object to arise.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's what that said.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: It happens naturally as a result of practice.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's why I'm always telling yellow to practice, because that's the only way.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_02: Fifteen, the non-duality of quiescence and movement.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_02: Am I going backwards?
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_02: My text is backwards.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: Hold on a minute.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_02: I have gremlins.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_02: Sixteen.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_02: Seventeen.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_02: Here we are.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_02: You cannot perceive non-conceptual truth with your structured intellect.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_02: And you cannot reach the place of non-action through activity,
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_02: through temporal activity, through trying.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_02: If you want to attain the non-conceptual goal of non-action,
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_02: Rest in naked total presence, free of dualistic grasping.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_02: Don't try.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_02: Rest.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_02: Non-doing cannot be done.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_02: If you did non-doing, it would be a doing.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_02: Then it's not non-doing.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_02: Tire the doer.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_02: There's a nundro that gets you to this.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's not the normal, extraordinary nundro.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's in the rushen.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_02: Outer body rushen.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's one I only teach in person.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's tunyami.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_02: People go through a whole lot of shit in it.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I like to be there to sort of catch them when they get stuck.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_02: Next summer we're going to try and do that retreat.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_02: But Don't be trying it unless you're ready.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_02: Or it'll just be a waste of your time.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_02: You have to do the practice for where you are standing today.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: If you follow the map from Kathmandu to Lhasa,
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_02: Which tells you to pretty much go due north and find a mountain pass.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_02: But you're standing in Paris and you go due north and look for a mountain pass.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_02: You're going to end up in Denmark, not Lhasa.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_02: Eh?
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well that won't work.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_02: The supreme vision is free of all conceptual duality.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: Supreme meditation is freedom from the cultivation of some attributes and
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_02: the rejection of others.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_02: Supreme action is beyond all striving and effort.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_02: The supreme goal is ever imminent, beyond aspiration.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_02: Look, this doesn't mean just do whatever you wanna.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_02: As long as your behavior is governed by the five poisons,
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_02: you should be working with those with the appropriate practice,
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_02: which involves not acting on them.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: You see,
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: when we are, say, angry,
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_02: And then we flip somebody off to release our anger
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_02: because we're finding our anger uncomfortable.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's not the practice.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_02: Did we get an answer back from that person?
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: About the indestructible drop?
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_02: We did.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_02: What do they think they're talking about?
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_00: They have here, the quote is, the subtle drop at the center of the heart chakra.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_00: Where the very subtle consciousness resides, that is their indestructible drop.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, not the tiggly, but the union of the red and the white.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's after death.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_02: That consciousness during life
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_02: The experience of it contained in a heart chakra occurs.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_02: That is a dream experience of this life.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_02: In reality, that subtle drop.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_02: Look, when you take a third, if you were living in flatland on a flat plain,
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_02: And a sphere touched you.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_02: It would look like a point.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_02: But if you moved into three dimensions, it would be a great big sphere.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_02: So that drop, yes, it's indestructible, but it is not singular.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_02: It only appears to be singular during life due to the physiology of life.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's not a soul.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_02: It is a twilight speech euphemism for Buddha nature.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_02: That indestructible drop that is neither born nor dies is misperceived as
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_02: a singular drop during the life of an entity But in reality is Sambhogakaya nature
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_02: of mind, which is why it's indestructible.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_02: It is the very life force of the universe, also known as bodhicitta.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's not a little round drop that never goes away.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_02: It is wonderful that all the profound texts are available.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_02: However,
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_02: a student is cautioned not to delve into the profound texts.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_02: Without Wong, Lung,
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_02: and Tree appropriate to the text,
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_02: lest they develop a misunderstanding and cling to it.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_02: So yes, in that passage, it sounds as if there is really a little thing in there.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yes and no.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_02: That little thing is the point edge
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_02: of the five-dimensional function of Buddha nature.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's actually an infinite sphere.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's even more than that.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's an analogy.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_02: Which is just touching each sentient being in the heart.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_02: And therefore to the individual appears to be a droplet, but isn't really.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_02: The text is a nice one, the one you're reading.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_02: You should get teachings on that text so that you actually understand what it says.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_00: There's an additional comment.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_00: I was told by my Lama that we don't lose, quote, ourselves, end of quote.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_00: Even in the Dharmakaya, there will always be multiple beings, Buddhas, etc.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yes, but they are not separate.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_02: They are neither singular nor multiple.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_02: It is very difficult to tell a student who still believes in is's and isn't's how this works.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I really take my hat off to your Lama for giving it a try.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_02: But actually,
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_02: the true nature of the three jewels is neither wholly singular nor wholly multiple.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_02: No, you don't lose yourself, but you never had a self.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_02: You're constantly changing, growing, maturing.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_02: There is no unchanging self.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_02: To Survive or to be lost.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_02: If you believe that your teacher has told you that a self is not lost,
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_02: Ask them for more details about that self,
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_02: whether it is the personality
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_02: and whether it is subject to change and impermanence.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_02: Or just think about that yourself.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that self that's changing.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_02: Supreme vision is free of all conceptual duality.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_02: Supreme meditation is freedom from the cultivation of some attributes and
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_02: the rejection of others.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_02: You're probably meditating because you want to be better.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_02: You want to improve yourself.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_02: You want to get rid of your obscurations and hangups.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_02: Give me a secret.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_02: Your obscurations and hangups,
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_00: they're not real.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_02: You made them up.
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  SPEAKER_02: Consider that one.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_02: If you see that
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_00: as it is,
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_02: they vanish like the morning mist, a snowflake in a flame.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_01: Looking for it.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_02: You're all chasing it, aren't you?
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_02: The vision cannot be seen if you cease your search.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_02: It cannot be discovered through meditation.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_02: Abandon your trance states and mental images.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_02: It cannot be accomplished by anything you do,
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_02: so give up the attempt to treat the world as a magical illusion.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_02: It cannot be found by sinking, seeking, so abandon all hope of results.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_02: This is Completion Stage Sogchen.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_02: If you are not ripe, then Continue with Kerem.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_02: Practice Tawa, Gompa, and Sopa until this happens spontaneously because you cannae do it.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_02: It cannot be found by seeking.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_02: Do not be biased or partial,
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_02: thus spoiling your free and easy,
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  SPEAKER_02: uncontrived consciousness of the here and now by clinging attachments.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_02: This radiant insubstantiality, total presence of the here and now.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_02: This is the sunum bonum.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_02: Translator ate a dictionary.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is the absolute pinnacle.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_02: Of all vision.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_02: This is all pervasive, all embracing object of mind transcending the intellect.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_02: This is the absolute pinnacle of all meditations.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_02: This unforced, detached, free and easy spontaneity.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_02: This is the absolute pinnacle of all behavior.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_02: This unsought,
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_02: spontaneous accomplishment,
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_02: present from the very beginning,
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_02: this is the summit of all attainments.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_02: Completion stage, Sobchen.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what this text is.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_02: We've worked through Tawagompa Sopa.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_02: In the beginning pages, follow this month by month and it will make sense.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_02: Come in suddenly at the end like this and you may find yourself experiencing confusion.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_02: So go back and listen to the earlier tapes.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_02: They're all on YouTube.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_02: This is a teaching text.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_02: You are receiving a teaching each month of this practice of Zogchang.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_02: That is gently leading you through to this point of letting go.
• 1:04:20
  Are there questions here?
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, there's one person asking if you've skipped something on page 115,
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_00: but I have no idea if your
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_00: Version of Garuda is the same as what they're reading from.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_00: The question is about Samadhi and authentic compassion.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_00: There's a description in there.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_02: What the word that's being translated as authentic compassion is authentic ninji.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_02: Ninji is commonly translated as compassion, but it is not actually the meaning of the word.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_02: The word means great-hearted open-heartedness.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_02: Do you see the subtle difference between these two terms,
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_02: compassion and great-hearted open-heartedness?
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_02: Compassion strongly implies a self and other and an interaction between the having
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_02: and the have-nodding.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_02: Openhearted,
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_02: greatheartedness simply implies an open generosity, regardless of subject or object.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_02: They said this was on 115.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I'll look on 115 in this text and see if it's something on that there.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the thing is we're on page 90.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_02: So I think they're in a different text.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, or a different edition.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_02: Or a different edition.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of editions out there.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_02: This is an older one that I just happen to like.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_02: Repeat that question again,
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_02: not the page number,
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_00: but... Can you talk more about the samadhi and authentic compassion?
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_02: Samadhi refers often to trance states.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_02: But in this context,
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_02: when the samadhi is authentic compassion,
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_02: it is the recognition of the innate vitality of the universe,
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_02: which itself manifests
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_02: Within time and space as all the sentient beings running around having stories
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_02: and interacting with each other.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_02: And beyond time and space as all Buddhas of the four times
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_02: in their totality.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_02: When you are able to see these two realities Superimposed upon each other
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_02: without separation as one thing.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_02: First you see them superimposed upon each other.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_02: And then they sort of kind of are all mixed together.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_02: And then they both become real without one superseding the other.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_02: This is the samadhi of the gone beyond of compassion is what I think you're referring to.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_02: But since I don't have a page 115, I can't look it up for you.
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I do, but it's later on and I don't think we got there yet.
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_00: What is the relationship between the functioning of the chakras and the realization
• 1:08:01
  SPEAKER_00: of the Rigpa state?
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_02: Your
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_02: filament body, your energy body, your rainbow body,
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_02: Is where you hold your
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_02: current patterns.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_02: As the wind of chi whistles through those patterns,
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_02: sensations, thoughts, and feelings arise out of that.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_02: The chi whistling through the patterns.
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_02: The noise of that whistle feels like a sensation.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thoughts arise describing and judging the sensation.
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_02: Feelings arise about the thoughts that told the story of the sensation.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_02: And so an experience, experiencer and experiencid arise out of that.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_02: You made it up.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_02: The chakras clumps, wheels,
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_02: intersections
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_02: of where the many, many filaments join and come out of in the body.
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_02: Filaments, Tsa, Nadis.
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_02: In the chakras are held certain categories of patterns.
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_02: The perception of form is generally the patterns of that are held in this chakra.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_02: Not dreams, intense ambitions, wantings and doings are generally held in this pattern, chakra.
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_02: The patterns of it in this wheel, it makes the shape of this wheel.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_02: Feelings here, lusts down here in the fire.
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_02: Angers, fears, tightnesses at the base of the spine.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_02: Or the soles of the feet, depending on which pattern you're talking about.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_02: These are the major chakras.
• 1:10:50
  SPEAKER_02: But there are chakras everywhere.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_02: This one of doing, speech, body, form, feeling.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_02: Creativity.
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_02: Grasping.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_02: So there are practices, visualization practices in Krim.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_02: In Dzogchen,
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_02: we call these rushen,
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_02: sometimes longde,
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_02: in which these practices are done that comb That relax,
• 1:11:30
  SPEAKER_02: that release the clumps in the chakras,
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_02: the gnarly bits, the matted bits of channels where the chi isn't going smoothly.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_02: When the chi doesn't go smoothly,
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_02: it makes these weird whistling noises and you have these intense experiences,
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_02: feelings, all of this happens.
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_02: So as you smooth it out,
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_02: The sound of your own whistling chi ceases to distract you from isness.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like that.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_00: The teaching says to give up seeing the world as magical illusion.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_00: Is this in reference to Longchinpa's training in illusion?
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is in reference.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_02: There's not just Lungchenpa.
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_02: Lungchenpa is one of the texts in Training in Illusion.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_02: This is the method.
• 1:12:30
  SPEAKER_02: You're going to have certain methods like working with thoughts,
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_02: working with emotions,
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_02: working with perceptions,
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_02: which is an upcoming retreat,
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_02: which will be open only to those who have done working with thoughts and working
• 1:12:47
  SPEAKER_02: with emotions already and got it working.
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's the third one.
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_02: You don't start there.
• 1:12:54
  SPEAKER_02: Working with perceptions.
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_02: So in the working with perceptions,
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_02: you perform certain exercises that allow you to see the transparency
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_02: of your perceptions more easily.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_02: Once that is completed, you don't need to carry it with you.
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_02: The method of working with emotions,
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_02: which some of you have already had,
• 1:13:21
  SPEAKER_02: Once that is completed, you don't have to keep doing it.
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_02: It just happens.
• 1:13:26
  SPEAKER_02: All emotions arise as those sensations and you automatically don't mind them.
• 1:13:32
  SPEAKER_02: Don't try to get them to go away.
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_02: They're part of the intensity of the vitality of being alive and that's fine to have
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_02: and you don't want to make them go away or to act on them or to do anything.
• 1:13:47
  SPEAKER_02: They're just there.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_02: When you finish that practice, let it go.
• 1:13:54
  SPEAKER_02: This is all about when you've finished the Krim practices, let them go and rest in Zogchen.
• 1:14:03
  SPEAKER_02: Don't keep trying to maintain your Krim practices beyond where they have actualized.
• 1:14:12
  SPEAKER_02: But please do not set them aside before you've actualized them.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's what they're for.
• 1:14:21
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_00: Is there a universal stream of consciousness?
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_00: Can you tune into that?
• 1:14:36
  SPEAKER_02: Knot and remember it effectively.
• 1:14:41
  SPEAKER_02: It'll give you a migraine.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_02: You can tune into Gaia, the Earth's stream of consciousness, with certain methods.
• 1:14:55
  SPEAKER_02: That's already pretty big.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_02: We're her biome.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_02: You yourself are not an entity.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_02: You're an ecology just like Gaia.
• 1:15:07
  SPEAKER_02: And your biome, each and every one of them thinks they're an individual.
• 1:15:13
  SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
• 1:15:14
  SPEAKER_02: Just like you do.
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_02: Not the way you mean it as a specific.
• 1:15:30
  SPEAKER_02: It is the sound of the elements.
• 1:15:36
  SPEAKER_02: The sound of one hand clapping in the background of the entire universe
• 1:15:42
  SPEAKER_02: and it is always palpable.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_02: And it is not separate from anything else.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_02: But without getting awfully mystical, it's really hard to talk to you about that.
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_00: Related to this,
• 1:15:58
  SPEAKER_00: someone else asked,
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_00: from the flight of Garuda view,
• 1:16:03
  SPEAKER_00: are there humans and Buddhas in other universes like ours?
• 1:16:07
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's mentioned somewhere in the text.
• 1:16:12
  SPEAKER_02: We've been through that part.
• 1:16:15
  SPEAKER_02: Where we talk about sideways,
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_02: where we talk about up and down not being real,
• 1:16:20
  SPEAKER_02: which is a really hard concept for Tibetans.
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_02: And Rinpoche was going, it'll never go through.
• 1:16:26
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to get this through.
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_02: He is perfectly comfortable with this chapter,
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_02: feeling it to be completely understandable in Tibetan.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_02: But the idea of up and down not being real?
• 1:16:41
  SPEAKER_02: I despaired of communicating that.
• 1:16:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm going, what?
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_02: Australia?
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_02: He lived in a flat earth.
• 1:16:53
  SPEAKER_02: I joined him there for a time.
• 1:16:56
  SPEAKER_00: It was quite delightful.
• 1:16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Neither one is real.
• 1:17:03
  SPEAKER_02: They're just experiences.
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_02: The edge was really pretty.
• 1:17:10
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 1:17:13
  SPEAKER_00: How would one go about building their own Pure Land?
• 1:17:21
  SPEAKER_02: Realize the nature of mind, from there it's easy.
• 1:17:26
  SPEAKER_02: Follow the instructions of the practice step by step until
• 1:17:33
  SPEAKER_02: the full realization arises,
• 1:17:37
  SPEAKER_02: at which point Recognizing the innate creativity of mind,
• 1:17:43
  SPEAKER_02: you would do monlam to do so.
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_02: Monlam is a kind of magic done with the speech chakra by repetition
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_02: where you say something again and again and again to make it so.
• 1:18:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's how All the pure lands were built.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 1:18:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to remember if this is not a question I've asked already.
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_00: At times it's like phenomena arise already being aware.
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_00: So the sense of self is irrelevant.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_00: Then the self arises with its own vantage point.
• 1:18:41
  SPEAKER_00: Why does the sense of a split appear?
• 1:18:46
  SPEAKER_02: Ignorance.
• 1:18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Habit.
• 1:18:53
  SPEAKER_02: We are habituated to that sense of a split.
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_02: The more time you spend in the experience that is not that sense of a split,
• 1:19:06
  SPEAKER_02: The less and the more slowly that sense will re-arise until it is exhausted.
• 1:19:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's just part of the display.
• 1:19:20
  SPEAKER_02: Next question.
• 1:19:23
  SPEAKER_00: Can there be a teaching session that just teaches the mystical?
• 1:19:27
  SPEAKER_00: I would love to learn the mystical.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think people have gotten attached to the twilight speech concept.
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_02: We'll see.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_02: You want a mystical teaching?
• 1:19:44
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna have that right now.
• 1:19:50
  SPEAKER_02: Follow me.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_02: The urge to merge.
• 1:20:23
  SPEAKER_02: The red and white come together at the heart chakra.
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_02: Mind being sky.
• 1:20:43
  SPEAKER_02: Sky as a symbol of mind.
• 1:20:49
  SPEAKER_02: And yet the sky itself is alive with the light of vitality, which is mind without separation.
• 1:21:08
  SPEAKER_02: Why do the red and white come together?
• 1:21:12
  SPEAKER_02: This is love.
• 1:21:16
  SPEAKER_02: The love of form for emptiness, for it wishes to penetrate and dissolve within that.
• 1:21:24
  SPEAKER_02: Oh gentlemen, do you not?
• 1:21:28
  SPEAKER_02: The love of emptiness for form,
• 1:21:32
  SPEAKER_02: which wishes to be encompassed and penetrated, decorated, and made real.
• 1:21:43
  SPEAKER_02: Ladies, do you not?
• 1:21:52
  SPEAKER_02: This urge that even the bugs feel,
• 1:22:01
  SPEAKER_02: the only thing that doesn't feel it is foot fungus.
• 1:22:06
  SPEAKER_02: No urge to merge there.
• 1:22:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's a bit distorted as a being-to-be.
• 1:22:15
  SPEAKER_02: You can read up on that more if you reach to scientifically read about how foot fungus Breeds.
• 1:22:24
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't mate, because it's in shoes.
• 1:22:35
  SPEAKER_02: Even the bugs in your gut wanna fuck.
• 1:22:43
  SPEAKER_02: But it is not this man and this woman, these two men, these two women, This triad.
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_02: This group grope.
• 1:22:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's not those specifics.
• 1:23:01
  SPEAKER_02: Follow at home.
• 1:23:03
  SPEAKER_02: Follow your generative sex drive home.
• 1:23:08
  SPEAKER_02: To the urge.
• 1:23:12
  SPEAKER_02: As form to fire all of your guns at once and blast off into space, dissolving destruction.
• 1:23:24
  SPEAKER_02: Open, infinite awareness.
• 1:23:32
  SPEAKER_02: Powo.
• 1:23:39
  SPEAKER_02: Encompass.
• 1:23:41
  SPEAKER_02: The form, the delight, the sensory delight of all matter.
• 1:23:47
  SPEAKER_02: Its function, its touch, its awareness.
• 1:23:52
  SPEAKER_02: Love it.
• 1:23:55
  SPEAKER_02: Color, taste, smell.
• 1:24:03
  SPEAKER_02: Encompass.
• 1:24:06
  SPEAKER_02: Embrace.
• 1:24:07
  SPEAKER_02: Take within yourself all of that.
• 1:24:12
  SPEAKER_02: The dance of infinity.
• 1:24:18
  SPEAKER_02: Ride the chakra.
• 1:24:25
  SPEAKER_02: Four fingers below your navel.
• 1:24:29
  SPEAKER_02: Ride it to the union of method and wisdom.
• 1:24:36
  SPEAKER_02: Ride it beyond the beyond.
• 1:24:58
  SPEAKER_02: This is love opened wide to the universe instead of narrowed and constricted
• 1:25:05
  SPEAKER_02: and distorted by aiming at one poor sucker.
• 1:25:12
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 1:25:15
  SPEAKER_02: You don't want to do that.
• 1:25:19
  SPEAKER_02: Love it all.
• 1:25:23
  SPEAKER_02: Trungpa knew this.
• 1:25:27
  SPEAKER_02: But he was followed confusedly by the action
• 1:25:33
  SPEAKER_01: without the
• 1:25:33
  SPEAKER_02: meaning.
• 1:25:39
  SPEAKER_02: No, do it here in the heart chakra.
• 1:25:41
  SPEAKER_02: Bring the red fire and the white seed together.
• 1:25:48
  SPEAKER_01: Allow
• 1:25:49
  SPEAKER_02: that union.
• 1:25:52
  SPEAKER_02: Of method and wisdom of bodhisitta and emptiness of the dance of stillness.
• 1:26:03
  SPEAKER_02: Do your practice as it is.
• 1:26:07
  SPEAKER_02: Whichever it is.
• 1:26:09
  SPEAKER_02: Kerim or Zogrim at this time.
• 1:26:11
  SPEAKER_02: Or bounce between the two as the inclination strikes you.
• 1:26:20
  SPEAKER_02: But remember.
• 1:26:23
  SPEAKER_02: To allow
• 1:26:27
  SPEAKER_02: infinite open awareness to open wide, embracing Bodhisitta.
• 1:26:35
  SPEAKER_02: Allow Bodhisitta,
• 1:26:38
  SPEAKER_02: open hearted,
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  SPEAKER_02: great heartedness to open wide, embracing and being embraced by Shunyata.
• 1:26:48
  SPEAKER_02: And the two concepts dissolve into open awareness.
• 1:26:55
  SPEAKER_02: And that's who you really are.
• 1:27:04
  SPEAKER_02: I think I just taught you consort practice.
• 1:27:13
  SPEAKER_02: You don't do it with an individual.
• 1:27:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's only symbolic.
• 1:27:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's twilight speech, the symbols of twilight speech.
• 1:27:23
  SPEAKER_02: You do it with form and emptiness.
• 1:27:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's ever so much
• 1:27:28
  SPEAKER_02: more satisfying than a simple orgasm.
• 1:27:40
  SPEAKER_02: If you have a partner with which you are monogamous, consider them a symbol of all of it.
• 1:27:51
  SPEAKER_02: Pao Khandro.
• 1:27:56
  SPEAKER_02: And don't stress about it.
• 1:28:04
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I gave him a mystical teaching.
• 1:28:07
  SPEAKER_02: It wasn't from the book.
• 1:28:09
  SPEAKER_00: And you're getting thank yous in the chat.
• 1:28:16
  SPEAKER_02: Tis the mood I'm in this morning.
• 1:28:17
  SPEAKER_02: That was a good dream last night.
• 1:28:20
  SPEAKER_02: I needed that.
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think I have more of this text in me after that.
• 1:28:38
  SPEAKER_02: I apologize.
• 1:28:39
  SPEAKER_02: Short teaching.
• 1:28:41
  SPEAKER_02: We've only been a little past an hour and a half.
• 1:28:48
  SPEAKER_02: I need a sticky.
• 1:28:51
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have any stickies?
• 1:28:54
  SPEAKER_02: But later we can get one.
• 1:28:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to leave this right here.
• 1:28:57
  SPEAKER_02: I'm actually going to mark my place with a sticky.
• 1:29:00
  SPEAKER_02: And this text somehow got printed backwards, so I have to go that way instead of this way.
• 1:29:09
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, I'm going to put a sticky in there so that we have that for you next time
• 1:29:13
  SPEAKER_02: and I don't get confused and start reading in the wrong direction.
• 1:29:21
  SPEAKER_02: You gets what you gets.
• 1:29:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well,
• 1:29:24
  SPEAKER_00: here's at least a yellow piece of paper to get that started until I find
• 1:29:29
  SPEAKER_00: an actual sticky.
• 1:29:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it goes right here.
• 1:29:36
  SPEAKER_02: Any really good questions before we give up?
• 1:29:40
  SPEAKER_00: There was one more question.
• 1:29:43
  SPEAKER_00: What is the best way to tamp, I think they meant tamp down, mental rumination?
• 1:29:50
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you don't want to tamp that down.
• 1:29:52
  SPEAKER_02: It'll just come out your ears.
• 1:29:54
  SPEAKER_02: Don't do that.
• 1:29:57
  SPEAKER_02: When you're having mental rumination, Look and see where those thoughts be happening.
• 1:30:06
  SPEAKER_02: They're in your mind.
• 1:30:09
  SPEAKER_02: Open your attention from point focus on the individual bits,
• 1:30:14
  SPEAKER_02: ruminatory bits that you're having to the ground where all of that is arising
• 1:30:20
  SPEAKER_02: and vanishing.
• 1:30:25
  SPEAKER_02: Release.
• 1:30:27
  SPEAKER_02: Don't tamp down.
• 1:30:28
  SPEAKER_02: Release.
• 1:30:43
  SPEAKER_02: Don't ever tamp stuff down.
• 1:30:46
  SPEAKER_02: You're going to bust a guzzet.
• 1:30:50
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, unless that's your kink and you really like Spanx.
• 1:30:53
  SPEAKER_02: I've known people who are into girdles.
• 1:30:57
  SPEAKER_02: Not my fetish.
• 1:31:04
  SPEAKER_02: Tamping stuff down just makes it bother you more.
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't work well.
• 1:31:12
  SPEAKER_02: If you free it into its own nature, it can't bother you.
• 1:31:17
  SPEAKER_02: Any more than the sound of the wind in the trees or the rain falling on the leaves bothers you.
• 1:31:36
  SPEAKER_01: We are complete for today.
• 1:32:04
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I wanted to, if you could talk a bit about the upcoming Kurukuli Retreat.
• 1:32:12
  SPEAKER_00: We had questions in the chat about requirements,
• 1:32:15
  SPEAKER_00: how it will be arranged, how it will be organized.
• 1:32:20
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, the upcoming Kurukuli Retreat,
• 1:32:23
  SPEAKER_02: you have to sign up for it on my website,
• 1:32:27
  SPEAKER_02: like any Zoom retreat, and it will be over Zoom.
• 1:32:30
  SPEAKER_02: You will receive an invitation.
• 1:32:34
  SPEAKER_02: The first day I will teach you how to reach across outside of
• 1:32:39
  SPEAKER_02: the space time continuum and catch a Wong that is offered at a different now
• 1:32:46
  SPEAKER_02: of time space and to catch it in that now of time space.
• 1:32:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then at the end of that Wong,
• 1:32:55
  SPEAKER_02: I will teach you how to solidify the pattern so that you retain the Wong.
• 1:33:08
  SPEAKER_02: In order to take the Wong, it would be best if you have completed an ordinary nundro.
• 1:33:18
  SPEAKER_02: I do not require an extraordinary nundro, but I would say to join this an ordinary nundro.
• 1:33:28
  SPEAKER_02: I believe it's on the website if you want to listen to it.
• 1:33:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's basically the four turning minds.
• 1:33:36
  SPEAKER_02: Precious human rebirth.
• 1:33:38
  SPEAKER_02: Do you understand what that means?
• 1:33:40
  SPEAKER_02: Impermanence and death.
• 1:33:43
  SPEAKER_02: Are you aware that you're going to die?
• 1:33:45
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know this?
• 1:33:50
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know that all things pass?
• 1:33:56
  SPEAKER_02: Suffering is the nature of Samsara.
• 1:33:58
  SPEAKER_02: How suffering works and why we make ourselves suffer.
• 1:34:03
  SPEAKER_02: And why we can't avoid suffering.
• 1:34:06
  SPEAKER_02: And why it's not our fault.
• 1:34:09
  SPEAKER_02: How karma works.
• 1:34:12
  SPEAKER_02: And the patterns.
• 1:34:15
  SPEAKER_02: The symptoms of the reki.
• 1:34:18
  SPEAKER_02: Of the pattern of the space-time continuum.
• 1:34:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's ordinary nundra and it's something to be read and understood.
• 1:34:28
  SPEAKER_02: And you need that to join.
• 1:34:31
  SPEAKER_02: You've got a week.
• 1:34:33
  SPEAKER_02: I've recorded teachings on it.
• 1:34:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's called Lam Rim by the Galupas.
• 1:34:39
  SPEAKER_02: Elena has been doing a class on it.
• 1:34:42
  SPEAKER_02: So you've got a week.
• 1:34:43
  SPEAKER_02: You can get the ordinary nundro in a week if you actually focus on it.
• 1:34:49
  SPEAKER_02: I would say that's your prerequisite, those basic understandings in Dharma.
• 1:34:56
  SPEAKER_02: What were the other questions about it?
• 1:34:59
  SPEAKER_00: Justin, how it would be organized.
• 1:35:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think we're talking especially about that first session where it's looking at the Garton Riff.
• 1:35:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yes,
• 1:35:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to rebroadcast that on the Zoom with my own introduction telling you how
• 1:35:16
  SPEAKER_02: to catch it because it's from a different point time in the space-time continuum,
• 1:35:22
  SPEAKER_02: a different point.
• 1:35:24
  SPEAKER_02: So to catch it from this point,
• 1:35:26
  SPEAKER_02: there's actually some things you need to do to do that effectively.
• 1:35:30
  SPEAKER_02: So that'll be a 10-minute teaching just as we start the Wong,
• 1:35:34
  SPEAKER_02: and then the Wong will be broadcast,
• 1:35:37
  SPEAKER_02: rebroadcast on the Zoom,
• 1:35:39
  SPEAKER_02: and at the end,
• 1:35:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'll come on for about five minutes and tell you how to solidify the catch.
• 1:35:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's all very simple stuff.
• 1:35:51
  SPEAKER_02: After that,
• 1:35:53
  SPEAKER_02: The next day
• 1:35:56
  SPEAKER_02: for those who wish
• 1:36:00
  SPEAKER_02: to do the sadhana,
• 1:36:04
  SPEAKER_02: return and I will teach you the sadhana, the meaning and the practice.
• 1:36:15
  SPEAKER_02: For those who do not wish to do the sadhana,
• 1:36:20
  SPEAKER_02: I will have that recorded but not available to the public.
• 1:36:25
  SPEAKER_02: I will find a way to make it available only to those who attended the Wong.
• 1:36:34
  SPEAKER_02: So the sadhana teaching,
• 1:36:37
  SPEAKER_02: if you feel like you're too overwhelmed and can't do it then,
• 1:36:42
  SPEAKER_02: I will explain to you also on that first day how to hold the energy until such time
• 1:36:48
  SPEAKER_02: as you can do the sadhana.
• 1:36:52
  SPEAKER_02: Or you can just take it as a blessing.
• 1:36:54
  SPEAKER_02: But then don't bother us the second day when we're teaching the sadhana.
• 1:36:59
  SPEAKER_02: Okay?
• 1:37:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's for those who want to do the sadhana.
• 1:37:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm assuming there'll be a lot more people on day one getting the wong and
• 1:37:07
  SPEAKER_02: the blessing and the mantra.
• 1:37:10
  SPEAKER_02: Then we'll come back on day two for the sadhana.
• 1:37:15
  SPEAKER_02: Other questions in relating to Kurukuli next weekend?
• 1:37:18
  SPEAKER_00: No, I think that...
• 1:37:20
  SPEAKER_02: We are going to set up,
• 1:37:22
  SPEAKER_02: lasting through December,
• 1:37:24
  SPEAKER_02: a Kurukuli group so that people can meet,
• 1:37:28
  SPEAKER_02: and then we'll start it again probably when I get back from India.
• 1:37:33
  SPEAKER_02: But we're going to be doing it in such a way that just as the other groups meet once
• 1:37:37
  SPEAKER_02: a month,
• 1:37:40
  SPEAKER_02: we'll do a couple,
• 1:37:41
  SPEAKER_02: a few months of a Kurukuli group meeting,
• 1:37:44
  SPEAKER_02: and then we'll filter those people into the Tantra group.
• 1:37:48
  SPEAKER_02: No, you don't get two groups.
• 1:37:50
  SPEAKER_02: You don't get Kurukuli as well as Zogchen.
• 1:37:53
  SPEAKER_02: One group with me.
• 1:37:56
  SPEAKER_02: Anyone you want.
• 1:37:57
  SPEAKER_02: We can talk about any subject in a group, but no double dipping.
• 1:38:03
  SPEAKER_02: I made the group so I could meet with each one of you about once a month to see
• 1:38:09
  SPEAKER_02: if your practice had gone glitchy and help you tidy it up.
• 1:38:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's that simple.
• 1:38:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's what it's for.
• 1:38:16
  SPEAKER_02: They're basically set into groups of practices so that most of the people
• 1:38:22
  SPEAKER_02: in every group are doing similar practices.
• 1:38:25
  SPEAKER_02: It just saves a little time.
• 1:38:26
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:38:30
  SPEAKER_02: Anything else about Kuru Kuli next weekend?
• 1:38:33
  SPEAKER_02: Go sign up with Jan on the website.
• 1:38:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's the only way to get in.
• 1:38:38
  SPEAKER_00: The links are posted in chat.
• 1:38:40
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:38:41
  SPEAKER_00: Facebook and YouTube.
• 1:38:43
  SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
• 1:38:45
  SPEAKER_02: Those who want it.
• 1:38:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's going to be a big group.
• 1:38:47
  SPEAKER_02: We're probably going to have to buy some extra time on Zoom because we'll go over our limit.
• 1:38:52
  SPEAKER_02: But we can do that.
• 1:38:55
  SPEAKER_02: People have been generous.
• 1:38:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's all for today.
• 1:39:02
  SPEAKER_00: Bye, guys.
• 1:39:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'll see you next weekend.
• 1:39:07
  SPEAKER_02: Some of you and the rest of you the weekend after that for something else.
• 1:39:13
  SPEAKER_02: Not everyone's into Tantra.
• 1:39:16
  SPEAKER_02: You get to choose, huh?
• 1:39:21
  SPEAKER_02: Bye-bye.