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The Episode That Stinks! · Microphone Monkeys

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SPEAKER_07: Here we go.
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SPEAKER_07: Lock it down on the street.
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SPEAKER_07: Got a gold.
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SPEAKER_07: No flash is me.
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SPEAKER_07: And free of the train.
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SPEAKER_07: Lock it sell up.
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SPEAKER_07: No need for one of the microphones.
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SPEAKER_07: People sell it with the kids from the trees.
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SPEAKER_06: Hey guys, this is Microfilm Monkeys.
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SPEAKER_06: We're here.
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SPEAKER_06: We're only four people today.
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SPEAKER_03: Aww.
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SPEAKER_06: Our uh Oakland buddy Darren had uh had uh deal with some issues, yeah, but we have the Porn Meister, the VHS legend, Will Mafia Mike, Stone Cold Steve Hoffman.
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SPEAKER_00: Who's your daddy?
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SPEAKER_06: And Randy Ho actually showed up this week.
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SPEAKER_08: And I I have some ghetto sound effects, but now that I have to throw in at least one.
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SPEAKER_06: But I had uh some very interesting stories this week.
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SPEAKER_06: A lot of AI.
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SPEAKER_06: I don't know how I keep finding these AI stories.
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SPEAKER_06: It's like they're never ending.
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SPEAKER_06: We've been doing this since what, January?
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SPEAKER_02: I think the the robot gods are feeding you these stories.
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SPEAKER_02: They are.
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SPEAKER_06: They might be feeding me.
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SPEAKER_04: He's gonna turn into a robot pretty soon.
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SPEAKER_06: Oh, there's some really funny little plot twist ones on that.
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SPEAKER_06: But uh the first one is man faces prison time for posting AI-generated image of a wolf roaming city streets in South Korea.
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SPEAKER_02: So wow, I mean, okay, what what was his crime for doing this?
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SPEAKER_06: All well, five years in prison.
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SPEAKER_02: I know, but what I know what the results are, but what was what was the crime?
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SPEAKER_02: What was the crime?
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SPEAKER_06: Here's the thing that's funny.
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SPEAKER_06: He kind of pulled back on it.
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SPEAKER_06: So he took an image of a street he lives at, yeah, and he just made a mild edition of a roaming like wolf.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and it caused total panic across his whole city that they had wolves going through this kind of urban city in South Korea.
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SPEAKER_04: And uh people can't distinguish uh reality from fantasy.
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SPEAKER_06: Well, that's where it's tricky because you get so much AI slop.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, in in South Korea, uh are they not I I guess they're not armed.
2:43
SPEAKER_02: Um people are not armed?
2:46
SPEAKER_02: No way.
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SPEAKER_06: Well, in North Korea they wouldn't be, but in South Korea that that uh Oh South Korea, Japan, China, they're all stripped from uh from any rights.
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SPEAKER_02: From from protecting themselves.
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SPEAKER_02: That's why they penetr.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it raises uh freedom of speech issues, also.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean you should be allowed to post anything on the internet, you know, as long as you're not uh what uh pr pr uh doing uh scamming people, stuff like that, or or but yelling fire?
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SPEAKER_06: They're directly in a crowd of the city.
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SPEAKER_06: I wouldn't even contest fire.
3:21
SPEAKER_06: Well, how did the story get out?
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Well, he posted it on social media.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but look at in Great Britain today, there are people going to jail just for posting regular uh memes that are somewhat critical of somebody.
3:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
3:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh, they put your humorous and they go to jail.
3:39
SPEAKER_06: Oh, there's people that have gone to jail for years in the UK.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: What was there, a Hitler dog one in Ireland or something?
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SPEAKER_06: Guy went to jail.
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SPEAKER_06: You post any certain types of hate speech slurs in the U.S.
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SPEAKER_04: I know drugs in in England is really strict, believe it or not.
3:56
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
3:57
SPEAKER_04: You can drink like a horse, but you can't do no drugs in that country.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, the mother country is not too big on liberty.
4:05
SPEAKER_06: See, we have Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, so we have a First Amendment.
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SPEAKER_06: We're really, it's funny with the Bill of Rights.
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SPEAKER_06: We're pretty much the only country on earth that has anything close to like a Second Amendment, and anything as explicit as our First Amendment.
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SPEAKER_06: And in the 20th century, they've interpreted the First Amendment very liberally.
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SPEAKER_06: So hate speech is protected, basically anything but direct incitement.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, burning flags is is is okay.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, protected, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: It's protected.
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SPEAKER_06: And from in libertarian theory, it's basically anything except explicit direct incitement should be absolutely free.
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SPEAKER_06: And that that's definitely a freedom of speech issue because he was very subtle and shrewd with this image.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but when you go and you say incitement, incitement is basically like mob, go get that guy right there.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but they they're doing that now here in America where people are protesting and they're saying they're excited.
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SPEAKER_02: This begs something to me right now.
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SPEAKER_02: So you're freedom.
5:12
SPEAKER_02: It's uh even though I know he's a dick, uh Comey has been indicted for the second time, and I just don't think that that indictment's gonna hold up.
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SPEAKER_06: Napolitano was saying that, Andrew Napolitano.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's so stupid.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, okay, it it's horrible that what what he he put out there and everything else is distasteful, but again, it's still just a bunch of random, or well, not random, but well, and it shows his bias and it's a lot of things, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he he posted shells uh that he he arranged on a beach uh that said 86 47, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Okay, and so you know and that's the thing with incitement, it's very explicit, yeah.
5:58
SPEAKER_06: And there's common law and there's vagueness to it, and it's really the only loophole in like libertarian theory.
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SPEAKER_04: Well, when it becomes vague, that's when the government can twist it to their advantage, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and that is the one area that is great according to libertarian theory, not US uh code.
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SPEAKER_06: But in the United States, speech is very protected, and I know there's restrictions and there's issues, but when you go to any other country, well, thank god because if not, I'd probably be in jail or hung by now.
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SPEAKER_06: You'd be in jail in the UK.
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SPEAKER_02: Everybody says you're well hung, but you know, that's something different than that, Mike.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, this podcast could probably uh any blood pull of jokes or anything could probably get us arrested in the UK.
6:44
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, that's that's it.
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SPEAKER_02: The but yeah, I I just uh but I guess the difference with the South Korean is that yeah, he could induce panic for people that know that they can't protect themselves.
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SPEAKER_02: So he introduced fire or even the fire example, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh when that was used, I forget what early 20th century case that was in, but that was before the 1960s uh defensive hate speech one.
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SPEAKER_06: That was one of the early, early ones.
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SPEAKER_06: A lawyer used that as a defense about fire in a credit theater.
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SPEAKER_04: I wonder if he was like this scratching his head, hmm, what kind of reaction am I gonna get with this one?
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, and even that could be could be considered not reaching incitement.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: And that's the one that a lot of a lot of the left since the 2000s, 2010s, have sort of shifted on speech.
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SPEAKER_06: Because remember uh Berkeley was a big free speech thing in the 60s, yeah, and now they won't allow protest.
7:44
SPEAKER_06: And there's also a second tier of it that's cultural freedom of speech, yeah.
7:49
SPEAKER_06: Where you don't get offended about little slurs or podcasts like this making little biokes every week.
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SPEAKER_00: I go back to the uh philosophy that if it's not violating the personal property rights of others, it should not be a crime.
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SPEAKER_00: If you yell fire in a the crowded theater, people could get trampled and die.
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SPEAKER_00: So you are violating their personal property rights.
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SPEAKER_00: If you're making an AI of a wolf walking on the street, it's not even personal property rights.
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SPEAKER_00: Are you violating?
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Well, and you know, people can have demons coming out, trumps like Jesus picture.
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SPEAKER_06: You can do so many wild things.
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SPEAKER_06: When someone's subtle with it, it just confuses them.
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SPEAKER_06: But they have no liberal laws or defenses.
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SPEAKER_02: One of the interesting things from that uh example of shouting fire in a crowded theater is somebody said, Well, you know, if you start regulating this, they're also gonna have a uh defense and right to have seat belts in theaters and have everybody required to have uh uh uh fire extinguishers with them in theaters.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, this is the kind of things that if you you have to watch out for the unintended consequences of of these things too.
9:08
SPEAKER_06: You know, well, and it's amazing with classical liberalism and libertarianism is so crystal clear that there's things you could never think up until you see the negative effects retroactive, like how the Bill of Rights are worded.
9:22
SPEAKER_06: Right.
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SPEAKER_06: You know, well-regulated militia is stretched around, was for a century in case of law and Supreme Court cases.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm for public safety.
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SPEAKER_00: I believe that everybody upon entering a theater should be issued a handgun.
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SPEAKER_00: That way, if somebody comes in the you know to pop some people off, you can defend yourselves.
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SPEAKER_04: You know, well, that's funny that called it in the dark.
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SPEAKER_00: Public has the letter L in it.
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SPEAKER_04: I can't see who I'm shooting, but I'm killing someone.
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SPEAKER_02: The letter L.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's not pubic.
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SPEAKER_06: I will say though, because Will did have a previous incident with an HOA, and I think he got banned from Gemini for some sort of raccoon rabies hybrid thing that you sent them.
10:05
SPEAKER_06: So there's gray area in the law, but gray area.
10:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
10:14
SPEAKER_05: I lack that, yeah.
10:18
SPEAKER_06: Your hairs are turning into gray matter.
10:21
SPEAKER_02: I was wondering what it was leaking to, you know.
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SPEAKER_06: But that's uh that's a big contrast with East Asia and the United States, and basically everywhere.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that is one thing because of James Madison and Thomas Jefferson and the Bill of Rights and the Anti-Federalists.
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SPEAKER_06: That's the only reason those rights are still protected in any way.
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SPEAKER_02: Which gives us a moral superiority to other governmental things, and and it's amazing that people want to strip that away.
10:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: It's it's interesting.
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SPEAKER_06: That's such a natural human impulse.
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SPEAKER_06: It's so rare that any country has those type of laws.
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SPEAKER_06: You really have to use logic and political theory against emotion for that sort of thing.
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SPEAKER_06: But moving on to the next uh AI-related story, there's something known as uh Bixon and Mania.
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SPEAKER_06: Wow.
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SPEAKER_06: Unfortunately, it's not a real medical disorder.
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SPEAKER_06: There it was researchers created a fake health condition to train AI.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
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SPEAKER_06: And now when people put in uh these conditions, they diagnose people with this fake uh eye condition.
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SPEAKER_06: It was created to prove large language models could easily be deceived, and it ended up tricking human researchers who spent time in fr using their large language models.
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SPEAKER_06: They asked if you get any reddish-pink uh color on your eye, or do you rub them too much?
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SPEAKER_06: Do you never give your eyes a break to rest, etc.
12:00
SPEAKER_06: etc.
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SPEAKER_06: Since 2024, it's been diagnosing people with this completely fabricated disease.
12:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, Steve, Steve, now you can reduce the amount of ivermectin you've had.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just get some drops and you're you're gonna be good.
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SPEAKER_06: This is a this is one of those uh learning curves for AI.
12:19
SPEAKER_06: That's right.
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SPEAKER_06: They'll be saying you got lazy eye.
12:22
SPEAKER_00: You have lazy eye, you have uh I use uh CVD laced eye drops.
12:29
SPEAKER_04: That's why his eyes turn into the double over there.
12:33
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
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SPEAKER_04: They're permanently red.
12:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
12:36
SPEAKER_06: I think this was related because uh there was some sort of Dr.
12:41
SPEAKER_06: Detmering disease of uh itchy balsitis.
12:45
SPEAKER_06: It might be related to the gray matter growing on there.
12:47
SPEAKER_02: It is, it is.
12:48
SPEAKER_06: And uh you were you were the primary source, so I think that might have been involved with your Gemini band.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, along with the rabies raccoon.
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SPEAKER_02: Not Gemini, Geminals.
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SPEAKER_02: Geminals.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: The wool the wool underwear theory is what I call it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: There's a lot of uh what was it?
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SPEAKER_06: Jennifer was saying, uh uh ChatGPT was showing Charlie Kirk was still alive.
13:13
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
13:13
SPEAKER_06: It doesn't update uh in real time if it's less AI image.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, it it it's because part of the has to do with preponderance of what the majority of their sources are on the internet are split over until it decides its truth.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, text over thousands of years, plus live input into their database.
13:37
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh but yeah, it wasn't meant for uh complete medical research.
13:42
SPEAKER_06: They do have specialized AIs now for looking up legal case law, looking at medical conditions, et cetera, et cetera.
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SPEAKER_00: But every time I go into AI for self-diagnostics, it always comes back with upperectomitis.
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SPEAKER_04: Well, with all this AI, we're people are gonna become brain dead.
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SPEAKER_04: Nobody's never gonna use their brain.
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SPEAKER_06: Well, it's like the internet, though.
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SPEAKER_06: It's one of those things some people get lazy with the case.
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SPEAKER_06: That's why that's why the youth today is so stupid.
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SPEAKER_06: It probably is.
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SPEAKER_06: When you can just voice text into chat, I mean look at look at these.
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SPEAKER_04: We used to we went from calculators to AI and and within 50 years and look where we're at.
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SPEAKER_02: We had attorneys, we had state attorneys going to um the Georgia state uh courts and putting in um these writs that had false made-up uh documents and and uh references and everything else.
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SPEAKER_06: It's too early for these large language models.
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SPEAKER_06: You have to put your thumb on the scale a lot.
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SPEAKER_06: You have to use human GPT.
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SPEAKER_02: You have to check, yeah, you have to check your sources, including ones you get from from the uh the internet from an AI.
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SPEAKER_06: Oh, I've had uh I've looked up eviction laws when I'm going to magistrate court, and it's made up whole clauses, whole paragraphs, yeah, of parts of the state code that don't even exist.
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SPEAKER_06: Exist.
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SPEAKER_06: And you have to go triple verify it.
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SPEAKER_06: But can you imagine being an attorney that was that's uh that works for the state's attorney's office and not you know total negligence and I could end up getting a case thrown out, well, that's what exactly soon it's gonna be robot and judges and it was an appeal and attorneys.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, and when it gets more advanced, these specialty ones, even over the past few years, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: When I uh first I started using it maybe the end of 2023, it's basically been on a daily basis, yeah, and it's become a lot more efficient, but it's way too broad.
15:52
SPEAKER_06: And it's so powerful.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you it magnifies everything you do if you track it and use it correctly and double check everything.
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SPEAKER_06: It does it's amazing, but you can't use it as a crutch and not double check it.
16:07
SPEAKER_02: Even uh like I was showing you earlier, marketing things I had in, um, the first stuff it had was completely b blown out bogus, and I knew that you know from so I all I had to do is continue to massage it with different facts and figures and things like that.
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SPEAKER_02: And then it came around and then it started making sense.
16:27
SPEAKER_06: Um, and like when I uh do the legislative affairs things, I have to have very clear, explicit prompts.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Open up a brand new chat, put in a frozen prompt so it narrows and there's not any drift.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: And you still have to double check it because it'll still start to deviate from the prompt.
16:46
SPEAKER_02: And so here's my thing.
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SPEAKER_02: It's the scary thing for me right now, as we sit here with AI, is it makes the dumbest, laziest idiots in our society appear and sound intelligent.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because they're just repeating what they think.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: If they're on a particular subject where they can access AI.
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SPEAKER_00: But if you go up to the uh regular, let's say a recent graduate from school today and say, hey, what do you think about the new uh regulations on Airbnb?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm sorry I didn't bring my cell phone with me.
17:23
SPEAKER_00: Uh come back later.
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SPEAKER_04: Well, it's muscle memory too.
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SPEAKER_04: You're using your brain.
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SPEAKER_04: Hey, they learned how to say, I forgot my phone.
17:34
SPEAKER_06: Well, they had a uh talking about Michi Okaku.
17:38
SPEAKER_06: There we go.
17:41
SPEAKER_06: There's a study of New York City cab drivers where the spatial part of their brain had grown from them using mental directions, driving cabs all day for decades.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they have a map in their head.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, like AI.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but you're going, oh, right here, here, here.
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SPEAKER_06: Literal parts of their brain that had grown and were abnormally large.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: And when you don't use that all day, every day, and even the internet changed it a lot.
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SPEAKER_06: You can look things up instead of you going to the library or using an excite encyclopedia.
18:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
18:11
SPEAKER_00: It's called experiential learning.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And with AI, our kids are missing a lot of that.
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SPEAKER_00: They don't have to experience life.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Just turn on your cell phone.
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SPEAKER_06: Well, and that's that might be part of it too.
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SPEAKER_06: If you don't utilize it right, it's completely transformed my life.
18:27
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Responding to guests, editing it angrily, voice texting something and making it professional, doing it in ways that hedge against any liability.
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SPEAKER_06: No emotion.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
18:41
SPEAKER_06: I'm not angry.
18:42
SPEAKER_06: I'm just talking through voice.
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SPEAKER_06: Tell this fool that they're not gonna check in early in a nice way.
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SPEAKER_06: That's right.
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SPEAKER_06: AI is kind of smoothing it over for you.
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SPEAKER_06: It does a lot of smoothing.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: But even maintenance, you can take pictures of things, it can read the text off the screenshot, it can do anything.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh it this is hilarious.
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SPEAKER_02: Somebody somebody wrote an article about using AI on a dating app to create their profile.
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SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Compared to when they had their own profile that they created, and the responses were like a thousand times greater.
19:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Same picture.
19:22
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well, they took the picture that No, no, same pictures.
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SPEAKER_02: He didn't have AI generated pictures.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, just the profile.
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SPEAKER_02: Just the profile itself and the descriptors and well, it knows all the stats to go off of.
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SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
19:34
SPEAKER_04: So they massaged the fat pig that was on the site.
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SPEAKER_04: Verbally.
19:39
SPEAKER_04: Verbally.
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SPEAKER_04: Verbally made him more beautiful.
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SPEAKER_06: Made her through uh her poetry and her description, if you're forgivable.
19:49
SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
19:49
SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_06: All of a sudden they're all pick me girls that love sports.
19:55
SPEAKER_06: Beer.
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SPEAKER_06: Beer.
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SPEAKER_06: Anything to attract a man.
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SPEAKER_06: It really is unreal, even translating.
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SPEAKER_06: It's if you use this trans.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh it's unbelievably powerful.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: But if you use it as a crutch and you're just using it to respond, I remember early on you'd go on social media and get into some political debate.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: And if you're using AI, you're like Godzilla.
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SPEAKER_06: Oh, like people don't know what's going on, and they can just keep responding, and you send them a page response back non-stop in a row.
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SPEAKER_06: Quickly.
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SPEAKER_06: Quickly.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
20:31
SPEAKER_06: And they don't know what the hell's going on, but that's long gone.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a troll killer.
20:37
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
20:38
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: But uh takes all the fun out of trolling.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, it and and it's it's really funny because I have just recently, you know, with uh uh Facebook, which I I'm I don't live on Facebook like a lot of people do, but I use it, you know, I I utilize it, especially for keeping in contact with friends from back home from Wisconsin and stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_02: And um but I have gotten really good at identifying people who are trolls that just want to get you know get a rise, make me you know waste my time responding to them and things like that, to friends that are genuinely um, especially the those that are more uh left-leaning, that are generally you know upset or don't like something that I posted, which is great, you know.
21:26
SPEAKER_02: But um I've been trying to encourage them to I'll I'll I'll private message them and say, okay, instead of putting this out publicly, why don't you and I, you know, here's my phone number, why don't you and I talk?
21:40
SPEAKER_02: Because we probably have more um more in common, yeah, than than than we're against.
21:47
SPEAKER_02: And I think we're talking past each other, we're misinterpreting things, we we don't have any f no voice in in inflection or anything to understand, you know, exactly how somebody is actually communicating the things.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: And uh but yeah, just just to to put it a human sp spin on this, because uh too many times I think it's just uh gone out to where people will misinterpret, go way off on the how dare you, you know.
22:17
SPEAKER_06: Well, and it's funny because it's so tribal, but being in the liberty world, you're always kind of in the minority and you're kind of on the underground.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: You're hated by both both sides when you're when you're putting in.
22:28
SPEAKER_06: And used to talking to both sides.
22:30
SPEAKER_02: Exactly, exactly.
22:32
SPEAKER_04: And you get used to to the I think our minds absorb too much in today's world.
22:37
SPEAKER_04: You're right.
22:38
SPEAKER_04: So 50, 60, 70 years ago, that we're just being bombarded with so much stuff that your mind just gets stretched out and stressed that any little thing will set you off.
22:52
SPEAKER_04: But even attention span.
22:53
SPEAKER_06: It's funny how with uh iPads, iPhones, whatever, the it's so much different than the 90s, and that might be uh even in the entertainment industry with films, yeah.
23:07
SPEAKER_06: They're shorter, they're edited different now.
23:10
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, they're not long and artistic and drug out.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: They even they even do um uh what do you call audio descriptives because a lot of people aren't watching the film, they're listening to it, so they're like, Well, I'm gonna go into the bathroom now and talk about this, dog gun it instead of just going to be.
23:30
SPEAKER_06: Well, and even watching movies on your phone is such an abnormal way to do it.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: It used to be the big screen, now you've got this one-inch screen.
23:38
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, it's my wife watches the TV shows in the bedroom.
23:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that works.
23:44
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's because the guy that she has in there is the little dog cave.
23:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's right.
23:52
SPEAKER_05: Don't come in here, dear.
23:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm watching my show.
23:58
SPEAKER_06: Well, it's funny talking about AI, it's also an arms race in education because now the teachers have to use AI to catch the students cheating, and you can only catch it at like a statistical level.
24:10
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
24:10
SPEAKER_06: And then they catch on and they use AI to alter it.
24:13
SPEAKER_02: And I'm sure intelligent kids are gonna get caught in this falsely.
24:17
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
24:18
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
24:19
SPEAKER_00: My question with AI why do we still have brick and mortar classrooms?
24:25
SPEAKER_00: Why do we still have send our kids off to a school every day when everything they they need to know is right there on their on their laptop, right on their computer?
24:33
SPEAKER_02: Because the young men need to work with their hormones.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: Okay, thanks to the next societal indoctrination as opposed to learning.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:44
SPEAKER_04: Next five to ten years, it'll change, I think.
24:46
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
24:47
SPEAKER_06: Education is a low-hanging fruit for that.
24:49
SPEAKER_06: I think he's right.
24:50
SPEAKER_06: Look at the administrators, yeah.
24:52
SPEAKER_06: The you could have one teacher with hundreds of online students.
24:56
SPEAKER_06: If you keep their attention and you deal with cheating, uh it's a pennies on the dollar cost to educate them.
25:04
SPEAKER_06: And things like you think anything that's in a textbook, any mathematics, English, history, yeah, it's all in these large language models.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: Thirty years ago, when I was a quality assessor, I'd have to go into some pretty strange factories that I really didn't know all of the processes.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: So I would go in the Khan Academy on my laptop and then take a 30-minute course on a particular technology right there on the laptop.
25:31
SPEAKER_08: Right.
25:31
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: I didn't have to go to tech school or a community college.
25:34
SPEAKER_00: It was right there and it was free.
25:36
SPEAKER_02: When he talks about laptop, it's a book that he had on his laptop.
25:40
SPEAKER_02: And the companies he was going into, he he was amazed that they're going from steam to electricity.
25:47
SPEAKER_06: He was advanced for the time.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: In my particular career field, all you had to be was a jack of all trades and an expert in nothing.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: A jack of all pause.
26:01
SPEAKER_00: You had to know a little bit about everything.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: Trades.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: A little bit about everything, not a whole lot about anything.
26:06
SPEAKER_04: But today you need a little bit about nothing.
26:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, the Khan Academy is like from 20 years ago or so, probably.
26:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:14
SPEAKER_06: And that's was the internet age.
26:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:16
SPEAKER_06: And that was revolutionary, and people would use that to assist with their textbooks.
26:21
SPEAKER_06: But even still, it can be explained in a convoluted way.
26:24
SPEAKER_06: You could go deep into differential equations and all of these advanced statistical modeling.
26:30
SPEAKER_06: And like when I did the modeling for the legislative affairs.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:34
SPEAKER_06: It goes into insane detail.
26:38
SPEAKER_06: Like it's a PhD applied statistician, and you can break everything down step by step that you would never be able to do manually.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: What I would really like to see is AI models debating each other from a pure purely specific philosophical standpoint.
26:58
SPEAKER_06: Well, they have Catholic AI, they have George Washington AI, they have that.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: Just think if you had somebody that was a uh uh a I don't know, a Nietzschean.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: And you have the Nietzschean going up against uh Camus and then Yeah, and just have those two AI models go at each other on a given subject.
27:23
SPEAKER_02: That would be that would be something.
27:25
SPEAKER_02: I wonder if it would just absolutely blow their circuits or what it would do.
27:28
SPEAKER_06: You want to know something really interesting, how deep it can robustly comprehend people.
27:34
SPEAKER_06: There was an atheist writer who died, I think, around 2012, Christopher Hitchens.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he died, he didn't go anywhere, yeah.
27:41
SPEAKER_02: He didn't go right around like a dead point.
27:44
SPEAKER_06: Uh and he had a very distinct British voice and whatever.
27:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
27:48
SPEAKER_06: And they have a whole YouTube channel using AI copying his the audio of his voice and his style of writing, which was also very distinct.
27:57
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and they're doing modern articles on modern events from a guy who died like 12, 13 years ago.
28:05
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
28:05
SPEAKER_06: And they know his whole philosophy.
28:08
SPEAKER_06: When you have you logged into an account on Chat GPT, yeah, at the end of the year, they'll do like, oh, let's do an end-of-year breakdown of everything you wrote this year, and they know all this information about you.
28:19
SPEAKER_06: And they can copy your style, your personality, everything else.
28:23
SPEAKER_06: You could easily put every work Nietzsche ever wrote into a chat, yeah, and it could identify all the patterns.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: I was having a libertarian debate with one of those uh southern uh Dixieland models, and all I kept doing was coming back with, bless your heart, honey.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: Bless your heart.
28:46
SPEAKER_06: Well, you could have it.
28:47
SPEAKER_06: I want to debate Foghorn, Leghorn versus Rothbard, and it'll just uh whip it out.
28:54
SPEAKER_01: I'll say, I'll say I'm uh retire, retire is the the the the the governor of of South Carolina.
29:01
SPEAKER_01: I said I'm a retire boy.
29:03
SPEAKER_05: Leghorn.
29:04
SPEAKER_06: The foghorn's getting pretty good here.
29:06
SPEAKER_06: You've been practicing.
29:08
SPEAKER_06: Okay, Trump, you have to do do one more swing at Trump.
29:12
SPEAKER_01: Man, the foghorn's working.
29:14
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
29:17
SPEAKER_06: Now, here's a non-AI story.
29:19
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
29:21
SPEAKER_06: A Japanese musician sparked controversy by letting fans sniffer armpits after shows.
29:30
SPEAKER_06: Now, you you're an entrepreneur.
29:33
SPEAKER_06: You think outside of the box and advertise and get people on the pod and have new podcasts.
29:39
SPEAKER_06: Now, does she shave her armpits or are they just uh she she lets it like five o'clock shadow?
29:44
SPEAKER_00: Oh man.
29:44
SPEAKER_00: Hey, this is no time for romance.
29:46
SPEAKER_00: No time for the music.
29:51
SPEAKER_06: Her name is Harita Matsumoto.
29:55
SPEAKER_06: She's a young underground musician from Japan's Wakayama prefecture.
30:02
SPEAKER_02: Okay, don't whack a ma right over there, Mike.
30:06
SPEAKER_02: This is not the time to whack a mama.
30:12
SPEAKER_02: Mike, Mike is sitting there.
30:13
SPEAKER_02: He's he's trying to keep beaver over there.
30:18
SPEAKER_04: Don't get me excited, Mike.
30:20
SPEAKER_01: We're trying to shut off this microphone and it didn't work.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it doesn't.
30:24
SPEAKER_05: Things are smelling a little fishy than we'll why does it have to be after she performs?
30:33
SPEAKER_06: I know, because there's people there's people like Graham that pay for this stuff out of pocket.
30:37
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's true, yeah.
30:39
SPEAKER_06: You just have to be your fan.
30:40
SPEAKER_06: Well, what what what instrument does she play?
30:43
SPEAKER_06: I think she just sings.
30:45
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
30:47
SPEAKER_02: It's not like she's waving her arms or anything else.
30:49
SPEAKER_06: Well, maybe the microphone.
30:50
SPEAKER_06: People get amped up uh singing in some little sweaty hot club.
30:54
SPEAKER_02: She should let the dogs sniff her crotch afterwards.
30:57
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's this is getting into VHS territory.
31:00
SPEAKER_04: There are no dogs.
31:02
SPEAKER_04: They hate the dogs.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
31:05
SPEAKER_00: Same principle.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: Just the pheromones just coming from a different place, isn't it?
31:10
SPEAKER_06: Some strong pheromones.
31:13
SPEAKER_06: See, this is the type of out-of-the-box thinking you have to do.
31:18
SPEAKER_06: Now, you and Graham have a whole industry going on back then.
31:25
SPEAKER_06: You have free social media this day and age.
31:29
SPEAKER_06: I mean, you could probably be like a reverse jiggle of women that's a good idea.
31:34
SPEAKER_04: Did she get this idea from Madonna or something?
31:37
SPEAKER_04: Who knows?
31:38
SPEAKER_06: And Asians don't even really smell.
31:40
SPEAKER_06: You don't even get much pheromones.
31:46
SPEAKER_01: Asians don't smell.
31:47
SPEAKER_04: This is how degraded our generations have come.
31:50
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
31:51
SPEAKER_04: This is getting.
31:52
SPEAKER_00: No, it's true.
31:52
SPEAKER_00: They don't sweat like uh like us Caucasians do.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, something in the in the genealogy.
31:58
SPEAKER_06: They don't they don't that's why I think past Biden was in Cambodia and Vietnam.
32:04
SPEAKER_06: He dealt with them directly.
32:06
SPEAKER_02: Sounds like the Nazi scientists say they have thicker skulls, they have bigger noses, they have they don't sweat like we do.
32:15
SPEAKER_06: You know what's funny?
32:16
SPEAKER_06: Because they actually uh uh East Asians don't have certain glands and everything.
32:20
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
32:21
SPEAKER_06: So then us dirty Caucasians.
32:25
SPEAKER_06: Us babboo Caucasians.
32:27
SPEAKER_04: Well they got no hair on them.
32:28
SPEAKER_04: That's why I'm kind of surprised they're not hairy people.
32:32
SPEAKER_06: Well, that's part of the where the glands.
32:35
SPEAKER_06: You get you evolved to they're very Michikaku.
32:39
SPEAKER_06: Michiokaku probably doesn't smell.
32:42
SPEAKER_02: He's a little old, he might smell a little bit.
32:46
SPEAKER_02: I wonder if you would have people smell his armpits after the lecture.
32:49
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
32:50
SPEAKER_06: He's not a freak like that.
32:53
SPEAKER_06: I'm just trying to bring ideas to the pod here.
32:56
SPEAKER_02: You're just trying to bring in Michikaku.
32:58
SPEAKER_02: That's all it is.
32:59
SPEAKER_06: Michiokaku and his granddaughter who see this is where when you have OnlyFans, yeah, this is where it leads.
33:06
SPEAKER_06: You have to one-up each other.
33:08
SPEAKER_06: So now to even be a singer in some underground club, you have to let people sniff your armpits.
33:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
33:13
SPEAKER_04: Next thing sniff your balls.
33:15
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's for your next yeah, that's for grinding.
33:18
SPEAKER_02: That's for your stand-up, isn't it?
33:20
SPEAKER_02: After you do your stand-up, come on, sniff my balls.
33:25
SPEAKER_06: That might be one of these other uh activities that'll show up on uh Chat GPT from Professor Dipmering.
33:34
SPEAKER_02: Of course, the the bringing back of Andrew Dice Clay over there in the left.
33:39
SPEAKER_06: Oh so circling back, staying out of AI for a moment.
33:50
SPEAKER_06: Two men were caught competing in the women's category of a prestigious South African marathon.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: Were their names Randy and Steve?
34:02
SPEAKER_06: No, you I I know you tried to do it for Allie once, but you got caught right away.
34:06
SPEAKER_06: Oh, that's right.
34:10
SPEAKER_06: Uh endurance running.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: Endurance running.
34:12
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
34:13
SPEAKER_06: So they it wouldn't be me then.
34:18
SPEAKER_06: Oh my god.
34:19
SPEAKER_06: At the convention, I accidentally I thought you could get from where we were in the hotel all the way to the thing.
34:27
SPEAKER_06: And I I said, Oh yeah, Steve, it's right over there.
34:29
SPEAKER_06: But I didn't realize it's this maze where you actually have to walk like a mile and a half to get across the room.
34:34
SPEAKER_06: And my parents couldn't walk because my dad was pre-surgery.
34:38
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and I had to drive him over, and I went, oh my god, I told Steve.
34:44
SPEAKER_05: By the time I got around, Steve was like, oh my god.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: I can tell you my armpits were working.
34:54
SPEAKER_05: Smell it.
34:55
SPEAKER_05: Premature Hoffman.
34:56
SPEAKER_05: He's not set up for the long distance.
34:59
SPEAKER_05: What's the surcharge for uh for sniffing that?
35:03
SPEAKER_05: That's a niche market.
35:05
SPEAKER_04: It's a punishment for you.
35:07
SPEAKER_06: Well, I thought it was interesting because there's bribes.
35:10
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
35:10
SPEAKER_06: This is in South Africa.
35:12
SPEAKER_06: Mike was gone on vacation.
35:16
SPEAKER_04: So he didn't have vacation, trust me.
35:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know if you were the theme of today's show is this stinks.
35:26
SPEAKER_06: This is going to be uh, you know, anything with bribes, anything with, you know, mafia Mike.
35:32
SPEAKER_06: I didn't know if you had to go do a collection or maybe after this podcast, maybe.
35:38
SPEAKER_00: Keep an eye on something.
35:39
SPEAKER_04: I got a baseball bat in the back.
35:44
SPEAKER_06: Well, this is a marathon.
35:45
SPEAKER_06: And I didn't you say you used to work for Tanya Harding?
35:48
SPEAKER_06: Something about Tanya Harding with the performance adjustments for her opponent.
35:56
SPEAKER_06: Something with a pipe, I don't know.
35:59
SPEAKER_06: Said some sort of mafia mic stuff.
36:01
SPEAKER_06: So a lot of stuff in the background.
36:04
SPEAKER_04: So who got who got uh collected on this one?
36:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I don't know.
36:10
SPEAKER_06: That's that's where the question marks came up.
36:12
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
36:13
SPEAKER_02: Is that a business question?
36:14
SPEAKER_02: You're trying to get some business coming in.
36:19
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, South Africa.
36:21
SPEAKER_06: It's gonna be nice this time of year.
36:22
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
36:23
SPEAKER_06: Do a couple shakedowns.
36:25
SPEAKER_06: Uh they these two women paid two men in a woman's marathon, and the men dressed like the women, yeah, almost didn't get caught.
36:39
SPEAKER_06: Then they found out right at the end that uh their officer fell off.
36:43
SPEAKER_06: So they saw that atoms out.
36:48
SPEAKER_06: Uh, and then they ended up getting arrested, and it was all bribes, and they paid them off so the women didn't have to run.
36:54
SPEAKER_06: They had the guys do it for them.
36:56
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
36:56
SPEAKER_06: So, yeah, very strange.
36:58
SPEAKER_06: And I guess they could run faster too.
37:00
SPEAKER_02: So do you think?
37:03
SPEAKER_06: Slightly.
37:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, you're so misogynistic.
37:08
SPEAKER_06: There is another South African story.
37:11
SPEAKER_06: Talking about Steve mentioning South Africa, uh uh put your eyes on South Africa.
37:16
SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
37:17
SPEAKER_06: Another now it's back to AI.
37:19
SPEAKER_06: I pick these AI.
37:20
SPEAKER_06: It's probably because I use AI to go through these.
37:24
SPEAKER_06: He's picking these AIs.
37:28
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
37:29
SPEAKER_04: I know.
37:30
SPEAKER_06: That's like the most developed of Sub-Saharan Africa.
37:34
SPEAKER_06: That's part of like the brick countries, the extended BRICS.
37:38
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
37:39
SPEAKER_06: Uh but they this is a weird, kind of uh alarming one.
37:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, because nothing we've had is weird and alarming.
37:49
SPEAKER_02: It's weird and strange weird.
37:52
SPEAKER_06: It's this whole podcast.
37:54
SPEAKER_06: Uh a South African uh policymaker had to withdraw an AI proposal because of how it was changed by AI.
38:05
SPEAKER_06: So he used AI and it ended up uh twisting the legal proposal.
38:11
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
38:12
SPEAKER_06: So he had to withdraw the first draft of national AI policy after revelations that contained fictitious sources in its reference list, which appeared to have been AI generated.
38:23
SPEAKER_06: The most plausible explanation was the AI generated uh citations were included without proper verification.
38:33
SPEAKER_04: Basically saying you're not gonna kill us off.
38:36
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, when it starts saying get rid of the uh the human bots or the organic uh uh entities, uh that might be the first red flag.
38:46
SPEAKER_06: Or when it zones all cities to be future uh data centers, yeah.
38:51
SPEAKER_06: It might be putting the AI thumb on the scale.
38:56
SPEAKER_06: I think uh how many states now have been pushing back on the data centers because of the street from me.
39:05
SPEAKER_06: Oh, in Carolina Forest?
39:06
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, oh I know they're building an Amazon.
39:08
SPEAKER_04: They they try that's the one I'm talking about, Amazon.
39:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's real data center.
39:14
SPEAKER_04: They're playing it off as some kind of like distribution center.
39:17
SPEAKER_04: Distribution, but it's bullshit.
39:19
SPEAKER_06: Well, it's funny because they already have an AI distribution thing down 31.
39:22
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
39:22
SPEAKER_06: Way like the north end.
39:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's why that's why we're our electric bill is going through the moon, because they they did peak times just this year.
39:32
SPEAKER_04: They start last year they started out.
39:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so they already knew this was all coming.
39:37
SPEAKER_04: And it's anywhere that these centers are, that's where they do the peak.
39:41
SPEAKER_04: People's bills are going through the moon.
39:44
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that the resistance is not necessarily fair of AI, it's the uh the utilities.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the increase in utility costs.
39:53
SPEAKER_00: But one of the good spin-offs is now you have a lot of these small companies that are creating these modular nuclear reactors for generating power.
40:04
SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna get a uh unintended consequence from these data centers that will benefit humanity in the future.
40:10
SPEAKER_00: All the market adapts, yeah.
40:12
SPEAKER_06: Well, and that's the thing.
40:13
SPEAKER_06: Uh all the municipalities, they have a government-controlled basically infrastructure.
40:20
SPEAKER_04: Not hair and not hairn or economy.
40:22
SPEAKER_04: Well, it's just nothing.
40:26
SPEAKER_06: It's where you can't have uh you're getting into a gray zone, and then you're gonna end up with communities going apeshit over it.
40:34
SPEAKER_06: And for just reasons, because you're spiking prices.
40:37
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
40:37
SPEAKER_06: And that leads to market demand for things like the smaller nuclear reactors and things that require higher amounts of energy.
40:45
SPEAKER_00: States with minimum government control are the ones that will progress in the future.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: Utah has just come up.
40:51
SPEAKER_00: They have a huge um um data center, and the uh construction for the modular nuclear reactor is already going on.
41:01
SPEAKER_00: So they're already way ahead of the power curve.
41:03
SPEAKER_06: That's it's a nice advantage when you're just a desert with cave-looking uh just put it right in the Grand Canyon.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: What how long, Steve, does it take uh from uh for even these small reactors to be constructed and built?
41:19
SPEAKER_00: Well, the permit permit process can take up to six years.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: Now then you can take another ten years to build a thing.
41:30
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
41:30
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: So this is when you take the government out of the equation, things get done.
41:35
SPEAKER_00: Good things can happen.
41:37
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
41:38
SPEAKER_06: And that nothing is higher energy output kilowatt hours as nuclear.
41:44
SPEAKER_06: It's not even close.
41:46
SPEAKER_06: Right.
41:47
SPEAKER_06: And everyone resists it.
41:48
SPEAKER_06: I think, isn't there one?
41:50
SPEAKER_06: Uh I don't know if they're just storing nuclear weapons or there's an old nuclear reactor in South Carolina.
41:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's over on the East Coast side.
41:59
SPEAKER_04: I forget the town.
42:00
SPEAKER_04: They they make the they still make the missiles there.
42:05
SPEAKER_04: Is that Turkey Creek?
42:08
SPEAKER_04: Uh God, I can't think of the name of the town.
42:11
SPEAKER_04: It's it borders Georgia.
42:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh it's the only remaining breeder reactor in the United United States.
42:17
SPEAKER_00: Except for you.
42:18
SPEAKER_00: And there's a lot of contamination there.
42:20
SPEAKER_00: Except for you.
42:25
SPEAKER_06: Well, that's one thing about the data centers, though, is the market's gonna adapt, the prices will adjust.
42:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:32
SPEAKER_06: But it's such a brand new tech, and so many people now common people use it all day.
42:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:38
SPEAKER_06: What's the data center gonna generate?
42:41
SPEAKER_06: They have chips there storing info, storing your chats, storing whatever processors.
42:47
SPEAKER_02: Well, this morning on uh four ways to process you that they they said Palantir right now is the one uh AI company that's benefiting the most for uh the stock has been up and down because I bought that stock, you know.
43:03
SPEAKER_02: Palantir?
43:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I have that.
43:05
SPEAKER_04: There's another one I was reading about China.
43:09
SPEAKER_04: Going back to China, Logic AI Logitech AI robotics.
43:18
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
43:18
SPEAKER_04: And I went on a site, and on that site, you can buy a robot for$25,000 complete.
43:26
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
43:27
SPEAKER_04: And they're already putting these out.
43:29
SPEAKER_04: Oh, China's been cutting edge on that.
43:32
SPEAKER_04: We don't know nothing.
43:33
SPEAKER_04: Well, China's not a lot of people.
43:35
SPEAKER_02: China is so far behind uh Tesla in robotics, it's not funny.
43:40
SPEAKER_06: It's these cheap, like personal robots, like when we have the kung fu robots and stuff.
43:45
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they're making you know, sextile robots that you know Well Tesla's robots have all gone to uh the businesses and they are incredible.
43:58
SPEAKER_04: What are they doing?
44:00
SPEAKER_02: Uh just about anything that uh people would standard used to have standard people doing on the on the manufacturing floor.
44:07
SPEAKER_04: That's probably why Amazon let out fourteen thousand other people.
44:11
SPEAKER_04: Well it's funny.
44:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, Tes Tesla has uh I mean they're they're not gonna be I mean they're not gonna concentrate on electric cars anymore.
44:21
SPEAKER_02: They're a robotics company.
44:22
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
44:23
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
44:24
SPEAKER_06: Well, and that's the cutting edge past AI.
44:26
SPEAKER_06: Once you have Star Robotics, oh my god.
44:28
SPEAKER_04: Starlink.
44:29
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, uh I'm waiting for that to still post as an IPO.
44:34
SPEAKER_04: Once that's all my money's going in there.
44:37
SPEAKER_06: Well, that's interesting.
44:38
SPEAKER_06: Jack Dorsey, who used to own Twitter, he just released something like he fired 40% of his employees for a AI replacements.
44:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
44:47
SPEAKER_06: It's getting there.
44:48
SPEAKER_02: And Starlink has now got a uh some competition from I guess Amazon and somebody else that's joining forces to start launching a bunch of satellites, which is good.
44:57
SPEAKER_02: I mean, even uh even El Elon Musk is excited about it.
45:02
SPEAKER_02: He thinks it's fantastic.
45:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:04
SPEAKER_02: Um, I I think you're right.
45:12
SPEAKER_02: He is he does want competition because uh it's good it's gonna make everything competition brings on the best for everything, the marketplace and everything else.
45:23
SPEAKER_02: If we can let it stay free.
45:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:25
SPEAKER_06: Well, and if it happens at a stable rate, it might not cause too much uh disruption, blue date kind of resistance to it, and we end up with some AI communism or something.
45:36
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
45:37
SPEAKER_06: But uh the what is fee Foundation for Economic Education?
45:44
SPEAKER_06: Education they had a thing about if you think about these jobs as basically we're doing robot jobs, if you think about it the other way around.
45:54
SPEAKER_06: As your productivity increases, you can go down at a certain point where people have four-day work weeks, three-day work weeks, certain industries are so productive and their output is so high, yeah, that prices go down, output goes up, and you don't have to work as long as you make money.
46:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but how are you working if the robots that's part of the adaptation?
46:16
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
46:16
SPEAKER_06: So money.
46:18
SPEAKER_06: Well, think about this though, because they still have to invest.
46:20
SPEAKER_06: Like when Tesla's doing these robotics and the Chinese companies, the robotics part is the insanely expensive part.
46:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
46:27
SPEAKER_06: These large language models, they published an article in 2018, and within a couple of years, they had a full-out large language model company with robotics.
46:36
SPEAKER_06: You have to do things from the ground up, how they use their hands, how they move, has to be very simple.
46:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but eventually we're gonna get beyond that.
46:45
SPEAKER_04: Well, they're saying the next 10, 20 years.
46:47
SPEAKER_02: Here's an example, Mike.
46:48
SPEAKER_02: Uh they were talking about pharmaceuticals.
46:51
SPEAKER_02: These ro these AIs can come up with all these different compounds and stuff that we hadn't even imagined.
46:57
SPEAKER_02: But it still takes people in labs to test them.
47:01
SPEAKER_02: Test yeah, put these compounds together, test them, and see if it's reality.
47:05
SPEAKER_06: Well, and you still have to manage them and monitor them.
47:08
SPEAKER_02: And then feed that new information from making the compounds and testing it back into the AI model.
47:14
SPEAKER_02: So they're gonna increase the amount of lab people in labs.
47:19
SPEAKER_00: Well, maybe the robots can do the lab testing also.
47:21
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's gotta be my major fear the politicians are gonna feed off our fear of losing jobs to AI and robotics.
47:34
SPEAKER_00: So I think eventually we're gonna see universal basic income come to fruition.
47:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that uh I really see that digital idea.
47:46
SPEAKER_00: And that'll be a great disincentive for people to be employed.
47:48
SPEAKER_00: Right.
47:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, it will become redundant.
47:51
SPEAKER_06: Well, that's if you think about the industrial revolution, think about the internet computer revolution, uh the flip side of this, the positive version, is you have total abundance, not a perfect fantasy version of it, right?
48:04
SPEAKER_06: But you have it where people might work a couple days a week, and if the production of food gets way cheaper because they invest in robots and they can do these factory line things or transportation or robotic drivers, and the rest of their jobs.
48:17
SPEAKER_02: And if they're not, if you're only working, just for instance, if you're only working a couple days a week, what what then uh uh are you doing the rest of the days of the week?
48:26
SPEAKER_02: It's probably recreation, which is gonna require people working uh 80 hour weeks to try to keep people entertained and keep the recreation up and things like that, too.
48:37
SPEAKER_00: So the industrial revolution was bad for humanity.
48:40
SPEAKER_00: What?
48:40
SPEAKER_00: No, that's total BS.
48:42
SPEAKER_00: In those days, the early days of the Industrial Revolution, the average lifespan of an adult was like 35 to 40 years old.
48:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but the quality of life was so much better.
48:54
SPEAKER_00: My next birthday is I'm not yet 80 yet.
48:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, I'll be 79.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I'm still you know, halfway good.
49:00
SPEAKER_00: And you had 25 good years in that time.
49:02
SPEAKER_02: Right.
49:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:03
SPEAKER_05: So we're living longer.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's also more abundance, yeah.
49:08
SPEAKER_00: More free time, more leisure time.
49:09
SPEAKER_04: Something I turned 85.
49:12
SPEAKER_04: Oh, your dad?
49:13
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
49:13
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
49:14
SPEAKER_04: He turned 85 two days ago, and he still works, which is probably why he has his own business and he still has a little business, and he I think it's the key, get out of the house.
49:29
SPEAKER_06: Oh, cardiac, it gives you meaning.
49:31
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
49:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
49:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
49:32
SPEAKER_04: So when the room sharp, he's still sharp, and he still shoots.
49:36
SPEAKER_04: Trap shooting.
49:37
SPEAKER_02: Well, oh, I thought he was shooting after you.
49:40
SPEAKER_04: No, that's those things.
49:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:46
SPEAKER_00: Keeping you shop.
49:48
SPEAKER_00: So when the robots take over, what's our life expectancy gonna be?
49:53
SPEAKER_00: Is it gonna be 90, 100, or is it gonna be less when the robots figure out they don't need us anymore?
49:58
SPEAKER_04: That's what it is.
49:59
SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be like the terminator.
50:01
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, you don't want to junk on it.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: Forced retirement.
50:04
SPEAKER_06: Well, here's the thing though, I'm talking about life expectancy.
50:07
SPEAKER_06: The Industrial Revolution, we never had increasing GDP.
50:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
50:12
SPEAKER_06: In thousands of years, 100,000 years of hunter-gatherers and the civilization, around 1800, GDP went from flat for a hundred thousand years to increase in which has never stopped.
50:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
50:25
SPEAKER_06: And that's why we have our modern society and our accumulated wealth.
50:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
50:31
SPEAKER_06: With the internet, there was another boost in it with the tech boom.
50:35
SPEAKER_06: This mixed with robotics can be unbelievable.
50:39
SPEAKER_06: When people get scared about Neuralink and stuff like that, too.
50:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
50:43
SPEAKER_06: You have all these stem cell things, gene editing.
50:47
SPEAKER_06: AI can research and analyze health data and medical data a thousand times more advanced than any human brain could ever do.
50:57
SPEAKER_06: And when these new studies come out, they can summarize things.
51:00
SPEAKER_06: Medical studies get lost over the decades, and you get redundant studies, and it's so convoluted people can't even keep track of the database.
51:09
SPEAKER_06: When you include all these things, all the common causes of death, like heart disease, cancer, cancer, heart disease.
51:17
SPEAKER_06: There's gotta be something better than radiation.
51:20
SPEAKER_06: Well, but that's what I mean.
51:21
SPEAKER_06: What if you have these nanotechnology things that kill cancer cells?
51:25
SPEAKER_04: Well, I I read there was a stud I read about this, and this was a while ago, about nanobots.
51:32
SPEAKER_04: They inject it in your bloodstream.
51:35
SPEAKER_04: Like if you have blood clots, and it'll go through and clean out those clots.
51:41
SPEAKER_06: You could end up with people living 150 years or 200 years, and then you get even more advanced than that, and they have all these brain chips and they can deal with any degenerative issues or whatever else.
51:54
SPEAKER_06: They basically said, at least millennials, you're getting into the possibility of just living indefinitely.
52:02
SPEAKER_06: The tech has to meet up, and it's getting so advanced now.
52:05
SPEAKER_06: That's the positive thing of this.
52:07
SPEAKER_06: This is such a huge advancement in knowledge.
52:09
SPEAKER_06: It can happen ten times faster now.
52:11
SPEAKER_06: And basically, almost everyone alive today could just live indefinitely.
52:16
SPEAKER_06: And every every type of disease, every type of cancer, heart disease, everything else.
52:22
SPEAKER_06: All these things J-curve up.
52:25
SPEAKER_04: Well, how do you get rid of the gray?
52:28
SPEAKER_06: Again, yeah, they might get they think they have some diet Walmart for that.
52:34
SPEAKER_06: But one final story, because we have uh the next pod coming up.
52:38
SPEAKER_06: Half nude Boston man accused of forcing children to eat Gusher's candy in restaurant, restaurant bathroom.
52:45
SPEAKER_02: Steve, when were you in there?
52:47
SPEAKER_06: I weren't you in there, Steve.
52:48
SPEAKER_06: I wasn't there.
52:49
SPEAKER_04: Just got Steve written all over.
52:51
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I thought it was like because uh one high-profile senator, I think, just left Disney World and ended up in Boston.
52:58
SPEAKER_00: So I don't go to Boston.
53:03
SPEAKER_00: I believe that's above the Mason Dixon.
53:05
SPEAKER_00: Well, somebody's show up showing something below it.
53:09
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, this is way below the Mason Dixon.
53:12
SPEAKER_06: Partially undressed Boston man has been accused of forcing a child to eat Gusher's candies in a restaurant bathroom last month, then following the child and his friends to a nearby playground.
53:26
SPEAKER_04: So uh was this the watch the kid bounce off?
53:31
SPEAKER_06: It's hard to say.
53:32
SPEAKER_06: Bounce off something.
53:34
SPEAKER_06: This is some Epstein shit.
53:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:37
SPEAKER_06: Was this close to a room again?
53:39
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like a uh a gelled candy that's got a liquid center.
53:44
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's it's like Gushi, so they call it gushers.
53:47
SPEAKER_06: Uh, the incident, which resulted in a kidnapping charge, unfolded at 99 restaurant on Austin Street in Charlestown.
53:55
SPEAKER_06: Uh, according to Boston Police Department, a 13-year-old boy was at the restaurant that Saturday afternoon with a group of friends when he went into the bathroom and encountered a man he did not know.
54:07
SPEAKER_06: The man was standing in the bathroom shirtless, holding an unopened box of Gushers candies in a bathroom.
54:14
SPEAKER_06: The report said Gusher's is a gummy snack with fruit-flavored liquid inside.
54:19
SPEAKER_06: The man told the child to eat a gummy from the box.
54:23
SPEAKER_06: The child tried several times to go around the man who was standing in front of the door and asked to leave.
54:29
SPEAKER_06: The man, however, maintained his position inhibiting the victim from leaving.
54:34
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
54:35
SPEAKER_06: So this might be a blue city thing.
54:37
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
54:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
54:39
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't care.
54:40
SPEAKER_02: When I was 13, I think I would have probably just punched the guy in the nuts and got out of there.
54:45
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's not like this is a five-year-old kid.
54:48
SPEAKER_02: This is definitely a blue state kid.
54:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, definitely.
54:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:52
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, what do I do?
54:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm such a victim.
54:56
SPEAKER_06: I at least I was 13.
54:58
SPEAKER_02: I put out the cigarette, put my drink down.
55:03
SPEAKER_04: I can see you at 13.
55:05
SPEAKER_05: You're already born a man at 13.5% of how you look now.
55:15
SPEAKER_06: I'm glad there's at least real examples you can share with kids now when you say don't talk to strangers.
55:20
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
55:21
SPEAKER_06: And I wonder uh what what what the profile of this man would be?
55:28
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: Just go on Facebook, look up Steve Hoffman.
55:34
SPEAKER_00: Probably just a grandfather with dementia, then just gonna give candy to a kid.
55:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you were lost.
55:41
SPEAKER_05: You just wanted him to open the box for you.
55:43
SPEAKER_05: Can't find my shirt.
55:46
SPEAKER_02: What is Joe Biden doing these days?
55:49
SPEAKER_02: Everybody here is doing my blonde hair.
55:53
SPEAKER_02: It's just you know good Lord.
55:55
SPEAKER_06: I just thought that was uh when I go through these news sites, I'll go through like hundreds, and that was such an a wild story.
56:04
SPEAKER_06: Shirtless man with gushers in the bathroom.
56:07
SPEAKER_06: And he followed the kid to a playground.
56:09
SPEAKER_02: What's a 13-year-old doing going to a playground?
56:12
SPEAKER_02: That's the other thing, too.
56:14
SPEAKER_04: When do the kids go to a playground anyway?
56:17
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, these kids don't go to a playground.
56:19
SPEAKER_04: They play on their iPhone.
56:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, usually usually a nanny takes somebody to the playground.
56:24
SPEAKER_02: Um I mean, if it was a ball field, yeah, I could see it.
56:27
SPEAKER_02: If it was a uh going to a nanny, video games, I could see it.
56:34
SPEAKER_00: But a 13-year-old brought the guy to the pro to the playground, the old guy to the playground, so that they could beat him up.
56:40
SPEAKER_00: Now, who's the real victim here?
56:43
SPEAKER_00: Let me rewrite that.
56:44
SPEAKER_04: Only you would know that often, right?
56:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Steve knows who the real victim is in this game.
56:52
SPEAKER_02: The poor shirtless man offering candy.
56:58
SPEAKER_06: This man was exploited by a bunch of gang fury.
57:04
SPEAKER_00: That's a fair defense.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: My job to handle as many gummies as possible.
57:14
SPEAKER_04: But it really was gummies.
57:17
SPEAKER_05: And stop calling them gushers.
57:19
SPEAKER_05: Now we have a drugging charge on top of the kidney.
57:26
SPEAKER_06: You give kids too much CBD and gushers.
57:29
SPEAKER_06: Uh, I don't know how they made it to the playground.
57:31
SPEAKER_00: THC infused.
57:33
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
57:34
SPEAKER_06: It is Boston, it's probably legal there.
57:36
SPEAKER_06: So but I thought I'd just end it with a bang after all these maybe literally.
57:46
SPEAKER_06: I don't know what happened in the playground.
57:48
SPEAKER_02: Oh holy cow.
57:51
SPEAKER_06: But yeah, I thought we'd just end it with a little wild ass story at the end there.
57:56
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57:57
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