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EP 65: How Peptides Helped Chris Harder Recover After a Stroke | Brain Health, GLP-1s & Midlife Wellness · The Loop Podcast: Peptides, Longevity & Women’s Wellness

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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Loop Podcast, where we dive deep into all things health, wellness, and fitness.
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SPEAKER_01: Plus, the fascinating world of peptides.
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SPEAKER_01: Each episode, we bring you insights from experts and guests from across the industry to help you optimize your health and longevity.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Steph.
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SPEAKER_01: Now let's jump in.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to Loop Way Podcast.
0:25
SPEAKER_01: All right, I'm back into this whole thing, doing some life updates, some loop stuff prior to my podcast since I can't be on Instagram.
0:35
SPEAKER_01: So I thought it'd be fun.
0:36
SPEAKER_01: What is going on with me?
0:39
SPEAKER_01: Well, I got back on Instagram for 20 hours, Caesar, and then I got kicked off again.
0:44
SPEAKER_01: So that was kind of a bummer.
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SPEAKER_01: Um they think it's because it's attached to a different, my loop weigh one, which went down, and now we're gonna try to get them all back.
0:53
SPEAKER_01: And so I think I think I'm just working on saying positive.
0:58
SPEAKER_01: And I'm actually emotionally and socially totally fine being off Instagram.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: Like I detoxed from that.
1:05
SPEAKER_01: I talked about that before.
1:06
SPEAKER_01: But I just think from my business standpoint, it's really defeating.
1:10
SPEAKER_01: And it affects ourselves, it affects my ability to communicate.
1:14
SPEAKER_01: And so you just realize the power of social media, and the reason why they're shutting people down is because it does make a difference.
1:20
SPEAKER_01: So I'm kind of dealing with that.
1:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, I cannot wait to August 1st because I'm off so many of my peptides and cannot wait to get back on a bunch of them.
1:31
SPEAKER_01: But I am on my five amino sloop, which I absolutely love, and it just makes traveling so easy, and I just really feel the metabolism and the boost.
1:40
SPEAKER_01: We are working super hard.
1:42
SPEAKER_01: I talked about it before on our IRLs.
1:44
SPEAKER_01: So we are gonna have one in um Newport Beach again at the Pendry September 20th, and then we have one in Dallas October 3rd, and I have my retreat in Aspen Limited.
1:55
SPEAKER_01: Um I'm only gonna, I think, have 12 of us.
1:59
SPEAKER_01: So be kind of small, but it's gonna be October 18th through the 21st.
2:02
SPEAKER_01: So I'm working hard on that, and then working hard in loop health and getting the app up and all the things.
2:06
SPEAKER_01: So I'm actually um really busy, which is great.
2:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm in Newport a lot, which I'm enjoying the weather and the kids, and then how do you find that balance between work and kids and play?
2:19
SPEAKER_01: I think like even the word play, I think I'm just needing to play a little bit more in my life.
2:25
SPEAKER_01: I went up to Lake Arrowhead in Newport Beach for 24 hours, which was fun to get into Lake and just remember what summer's all about.
2:32
SPEAKER_01: So as this comes out, summer will be winding down.
2:35
SPEAKER_01: This will probably be out in the beginning of August at some point or sometime in August.
2:39
SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna be coming back from vacations.
2:41
SPEAKER_01: I'm excited for you guys.
2:43
SPEAKER_01: Jump on coaching calls.
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SPEAKER_01: If you're getting back from vacation and wanting to really start a solid stack for the fall, um, I would say book a call with myself or I'm bringing on a bunch of other coaches, but set yourself up correctly.
2:55
SPEAKER_01: I think that is my biggest piece of advice.
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SPEAKER_01: My clients or our clients at Loop have so much success because they are on the right peptides, the dosages, they're getting their blood work done, their DEXA scans, kind of all the things.
3:09
SPEAKER_01: So I really suggest that.
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SPEAKER_01: And if you're curious, and if you haven't jumped on Loop Health, if it's up and open, we're we're we're internally, we're on it right now, but I'm not sure when this will come out, but make sure you definitely check that out because it is a um it's a great community.
3:25
SPEAKER_01: It's really fun.
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SPEAKER_01: And the more of us that get involved in it and utilize it, I think the more successful we will be.
3:31
SPEAKER_01: And also check out my substacks.
3:33
SPEAKER_01: I have a new one going out today.
3:35
SPEAKER_01: And it's it's interesting.
3:36
SPEAKER_01: Lori Harder and I have been talking about this, and you're gonna hear me say it a lot.
3:40
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of like leaning into the era of like, it's okay to want to be hot.
3:44
SPEAKER_01: And I think we are all, including myself, you know, you wanna just kind of be like, oh, I'm not vain, I don't care what I look like.
3:51
SPEAKER_01: No, at the end of the day, you all just, we all just want to feel that way, right?
3:55
SPEAKER_01: And feeling that way is a mental state, is a physical state, it's kind of all the things.
4:00
SPEAKER_01: And so I just think, let's just own it.
4:03
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know, own it.
4:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm 51 and I I do.
4:05
SPEAKER_01: I want to look and feel the best of ever felt.
4:07
SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna be shy about it.
4:10
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, when you ask yourself, like, where do you put your energy and your time and your money?
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SPEAKER_01: It's gonna tell you exactly what's important to you.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: It's a really good exercise to do if you haven't done it.
4:19
SPEAKER_01: Write it down.
4:19
SPEAKER_01: Where do you put your time, your energy, and your money?
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SPEAKER_01: That's where your priorities and your value system are.
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SPEAKER_01: And if they're not aligned, I would definitely change them.
4:27
SPEAKER_01: All right, so now I'm going to no further ado.
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SPEAKER_01: Talk to you about this guest that I have today, Chris Harder, one of my favorite people.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, he is not only one of the most smart men I know, great leading masterminds, entrepreneurs.
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SPEAKER_01: He's really involved in strategizing our business.
4:45
SPEAKER_01: He's just super positive and passionate, which I love.
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SPEAKER_01: And he loves peptides, and his story is fascinating and how peptides really helped heal him both physically and mentally.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think people, you know, we talk about this like you come into peptides for the sexiness, but a lot of times you're coming in because you have some health issues that you really need support with, and that's some peptides I think are the most powerful.
5:07
SPEAKER_01: So he's vulnerable and shares his journey.
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SPEAKER_01: And then we just talk a lot about being an entrepreneur, health and wellness, the different stages of life.
5:15
SPEAKER_01: And he's overall just such a ray of light.
5:18
SPEAKER_01: So if you don't know Chris Harder, I'm excited to introduce him to you on this podcast.
5:23
SPEAKER_01: Follow him on Instagram, and just there are just some people in life that shine a little bit brighter, and when they leave the room, you feel a little bit better.
5:31
SPEAKER_01: So that is Chris Harter in a nutshell.
5:33
SPEAKER_01: So, no further ado, I'd like to welcome Chris Harter to the Loop Way podcast.
5:37
SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: The honor is actually mine.
5:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm super excited to jam out with you today.
5:40
SPEAKER_01: So my God, well when I saw you on the schedule and I kind of teased you guys, I'm like, oh my God, I've got a baller on today.
5:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't know about that, but um Well, I mean, I think just like who you are and what you've accomplished in this world, I really admire and look up to.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: But your story in particular is one that I think my community, you know, one of the reasons why I think I have a very loyal following on my podcast is because I like to bring people on to share their story.
6:04
SPEAKER_01: It's often vulnerable and really personable.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
6:06
SPEAKER_01: And it's not a one size fits all when it comes to peptides.
6:09
SPEAKER_02: Right.
6:10
SPEAKER_01: And so people who do come on and share with it, I feel like it's a gift to everybody who listens.
6:14
SPEAKER_01: So thank you for doing that.
6:15
SPEAKER_02: Of course.
6:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if you don't mind just kind of sharing a little bit about your health journey and then how you got introduced to peptides and then how the loop whey came into your life.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: So I'm 48 for context.
6:25
SPEAKER_00: Um never know.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: Almost two years ago, uh, September 1st, 2024, uh, I had a stroke in my sleep and didn't even know that I had it.
6:35
SPEAKER_00: And it was one of those wild things where if you don't expect to have a stroke and if you don't know a lot about having a stroke, you would never think, oh, these couple of symptoms I'm having is a stroke.
6:44
SPEAKER_01: And it's in your sleep.
6:45
SPEAKER_01: So you woke up.
6:47
SPEAKER_01: It's one thing if you experienced it.
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
6:49
SPEAKER_00: So what happens is I woke up and um I couldn't see out of my right eye very well.
6:55
SPEAKER_00: And the best way I can describe it is if you looked through one of those fogged-out bathroom privacy windows where it's the white fog, that's what it looked like out of my right eye.
7:03
SPEAKER_00: And the left eye was fine.
7:05
SPEAKER_00: And so I tried to wipe the sleep out of it like you do over and over.
7:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, there just must be something in there.
7:09
SPEAKER_00: And my problem is I'm not the go to the doctor guy.
7:13
SPEAKER_00: And I'm definitely not the most assume something is wrong.
7:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, oh, there's something in my eye, no big deal.
7:17
SPEAKER_01: So you're not the person that goes through like down the rabbit hole.
7:21
SPEAKER_00: No, I just think, oh, it'll get better on its own.
7:24
SPEAKER_00: So I come downstairs, I tell Lori, my wife, hey, babe, you know, something wrong with my eye, I'm having trouble seeing, can't wipe the sleep out.
7:29
SPEAKER_00: But I got a really busy day today.
7:30
SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Oh, you sure it's nothing?
7:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm sure it's nothing.
7:33
SPEAKER_00: So I go about my day like that.
7:35
SPEAKER_00: And there's no other real symptoms going on.
7:37
SPEAKER_00: And I come home and she says, Is it any better?
7:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not better, not worse.
7:41
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure it'll be better when I wake up in the morning.
7:43
SPEAKER_00: So I go to bed.
7:44
SPEAKER_00: I wake up day two, and it goes from that light white foggy to like a dirty brown foggy.
7:50
SPEAKER_00: So I wake up and I think, this is crazy.
7:52
SPEAKER_00: There must be really something in my eye.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: And I say to her, I say, I've got a busy schedule.
7:57
SPEAKER_00: If things aren't any better tomorrow, then I will go get it checked out.
8:01
SPEAKER_00: So I go about my second day of my busy schedule and come back and then go to bed, wake up the next day, and is not only is it no better, but it's probably a little bit worse at that point.
8:10
SPEAKER_00: So I text my concierge doctor.
8:11
SPEAKER_00: Now, by the way, who has a concierge doctor that doesn't bother to go to doctors?
8:16
SPEAKER_00: It's crazy.
8:16
SPEAKER_00: But that's always on day three.
8:18
SPEAKER_00: Right.
8:18
SPEAKER_00: That's my like insight into my personality.
8:20
SPEAKER_00: So I text Dr.
8:22
SPEAKER_00: Boyd, hey, buddy, here's what's going on.
8:24
SPEAKER_00: He says, This is a real problem.
8:25
SPEAKER_00: You could be having a stroke.
8:26
SPEAKER_00: Matter of fact, he calls me right away.
8:27
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, what are you talking about?
8:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm at this point I'm 46 and I'm fit and I'm in shape.
8:32
SPEAKER_00: This that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
8:33
SPEAKER_00: He says, Well, we gotta go get it checked out.
8:35
SPEAKER_00: So the punchline is this it was a stroke to my optic nerve that happened in my sleep and basically ruined the information that travels back and forth uh in my optic nerve.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: Now, the one of the only things it's really left me with as a side effect is I am about 50% or more blind out of my right side.
8:56
SPEAKER_00: I lost my peripheral, I lost my depth perception.
8:59
SPEAKER_00: But over time, your left eye starts to compensate, you start to adjust.
9:03
SPEAKER_00: Now, what I didn't expect was the terrible brain fog and mental journey that I went through.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: I was even terrified too.
9:14
SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I wasn't because I didn't know what to be terrified of.
9:18
SPEAKER_00: And I know that probably sounds really stupid, but I'm an optimist at heart.
9:22
SPEAKER_00: I can't help but be an optimist.
9:23
SPEAKER_00: So I think, oh well, if a little bit of blindness is all there is, then not bad.
9:27
SPEAKER_00: But the mental journey got worse over time.
9:29
SPEAKER_00: So remember, this was September 1st.
9:31
SPEAKER_00: It's not like right away I was depressed.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: It's not like right away.
9:35
SPEAKER_00: That's after COVID.
9:35
SPEAKER_00: No, no, 2024.
9:36
SPEAKER_00: It's just a long time after.
9:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
9:38
SPEAKER_00: So what happened was uh as September goes on and I get into January, uh, I don't really notice it, but Lori notices I'm snapping at her more and I'm flying off the handle more at little things that would make me angry, uh almost very uncharacteristically compared to my personality.
9:56
SPEAKER_00: Then I start to notice not only am I snapping more, like at the neighbor for doing something dumb that I would never do, etc.
10:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, but also I'm having bouts of like just wanting to cry.
10:09
SPEAKER_00: And then in November that turns into breaking down crying.
10:12
SPEAKER_00: So like when nobody's looking, I would just break down crying, but there but there'd be no trigger all the blue.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: Or I'd get angry, but there'd be no trigger all the blue.
10:20
SPEAKER_00: Then December, it's really bad.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: I remember Lori walked in the day after Christmas, and I was crying in the bedroom of an Airbnb that we were staying in at the time where we had all the family over.
10:32
SPEAKER_00: It's like, what's wrong?
10:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't know.
10:35
SPEAKER_00: So the mental journey actually got worse and worse and worse as the stroke went on.
10:39
SPEAKER_00: So finally, March, and I know this sounds crazy, but I guess look, it took me three days to figure out I had a stroke, it should take me a few months to figure out I should get help.
10:46
SPEAKER_00: Finally, um, a few months in, I decide to uh go get some therapy.
10:52
SPEAKER_00: And this is where I start not only uh the therapy where they're making you do all these word puzzles and everything else to try and speed up the recovery of all the uh neural pathways that have been damaged during a stroke, but also talk therapy, therapy therapy.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: And during that time, I start therapy, and there's one other thing I start, and I don't know if you remember, but you said, Hey, there's a couple of things that you should take to try and speed up your journey with your brain health.
11:20
SPEAKER_00: So I started taking those things.
11:21
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if we're allowed to say what they are now.
11:23
SPEAKER_01: The nice thing here, we can take all of it.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: Right.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: So you said, hey, I think you should take uh Celank and CMAX and NAD.
11:31
SPEAKER_00: And so I did.
11:32
SPEAKER_00: I started.
11:32
SPEAKER_00: And those were the first times of my life I ever took those things.
11:35
SPEAKER_00: Now, I'm not attributing my speedy recovery to those things, but I'll tell you, I only did two things.
11:43
SPEAKER_00: I started going to therapy and I started taking those peptides.
11:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and right away I felt like I got my brain back.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: The part I left out was this.
11:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, I've always been known for my strategy and my ability to see the whole picture.
11:54
SPEAKER_01: Very, very business class.
11:56
SPEAKER_00: It was gone.
11:57
SPEAKER_00: It was gone, and I was scared, Stephanie.
11:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was gone, gone.
12:00
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't, people need to understand.
12:04
SPEAKER_00: October, November, December, January, February, into March.
12:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh I couldn't finish a sentence.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: So the way I'm talking to you right now, and the thoughts are coming coherently, I would get three, four words in and I'd say, What was I talking about again?
12:18
SPEAKER_00: Like an old man.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it was like Joe Biden.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: It was terrible.
12:21
SPEAKER_00: I would just lose what I was thinking, right?
12:24
SPEAKER_00: And it was not there, it was gone for good in the middle of a sentence.
12:27
SPEAKER_00: And I couldn't think quick, I couldn't keep up if you were saying something, I couldn't speak quickly like this.
12:31
SPEAKER_01: It was so scary.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: It was so I thought I lost the one thing that I relied on to create income.
12:37
SPEAKER_00: So scary to me.
12:39
SPEAKER_01: And it's also like, I don't know, you viewers, like you're really known for your masterminds and your strategy, and you've been a very successful businessman at a very young age.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: So, like that for you, I think came like, I mean, that's it's our identity.
12:52
SPEAKER_00: It was gone overnight, and it was my identity, and it was so scary.
12:56
SPEAKER_00: You know, who are you without the one thing that you've always relied on to provide, etc.?
13:00
SPEAKER_00: So to speed this up, I start taking the slank, the CMAX, the NAD, and in a short period of time, I like to say I got my brain back.
13:09
SPEAKER_00: And when I say I got my brain back, my speed of thought came back, the brain fog went away, the ability to not lose my place in the middle of a sentence.
13:19
SPEAKER_00: Uh and I almost think it's better than pre-stroke.
13:23
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: I almost think it's better than pre-stroke.
13:26
SPEAKER_00: Again, is it just those things?
13:27
SPEAKER_00: Is it something else?
13:28
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
13:29
SPEAKER_00: But I can tell you this: here's the facts.
13:30
SPEAKER_00: Had a stroke, had brain fog, couldn't finish a sentence, got depressed, would get angry for no reason, got on these peptides per your recommendation, and got my brain back and feel equal to or better than pre-stroke.
13:42
SPEAKER_01: And back to yourself.
13:43
SPEAKER_00: And back to myself.
13:44
SPEAKER_01: I wonder too with strokes, because you sometimes hear this at a friend whose wife had a stroke.
13:48
SPEAKER_01: And also, like, you don't know what's happening prior to the stroke, but like her personality, she was having all these symptoms before where he's like, Where's my wife?
13:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
13:56
SPEAKER_01: And then once the stroke, like, oh, the pressure on the brain was so strong.
14:00
SPEAKER_01: She was having it earlier.
14:01
SPEAKER_01: But like, you know, I think women and men, but oftentimes they're like, you know, don't be known for your looks because they're gonna be, they're gonna fade.
14:07
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, we're told all these things.
14:09
SPEAKER_01: Well, imagine if someone's like, well, don't be known for your brain because God's forgive a stroke at 43, and like it goes away.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: It's basically saying, Hey, without these looks or without this brain, you're nothing.
14:17
SPEAKER_00: I know.
14:17
SPEAKER_00: And that's a scary thing.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, aging is tough enough as it is.
14:20
SPEAKER_00: Like, let's be shallow for a minute.
14:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we do like to preserve our looks, we do like to preserve our brain and and our youth and our energy.
14:27
SPEAKER_00: And when it goes away, it's a real scary, scary thing with you know to handle.
14:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: I should almost also segue into like what caused the stroke.
14:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'd love to.
14:37
SPEAKER_00: According to my doctors, what do you think?
14:38
SPEAKER_00: So, according to my doctors, um, I gave it to myself, and this is important for everybody when it comes to compliance.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: So uh I have a startup, and I was at the peak of my startup not going well.
14:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we had to pivot after two years and two and a half million dollars in.
14:53
SPEAKER_00: The CFPB made a ruling, I'm in fintech, that all of a sudden, during our soft launch, said, Hey, all that work, you can't move forward with it.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: And we had to find a pivot.
15:02
SPEAKER_00: So that started sleepless nights, and sleeping is my superpower.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: So that was new to that was new to me.
15:06
SPEAKER_00: I could lay down in the middle of the 405 and go right to sleep, no problem.
15:09
SPEAKER_01: People like you.
15:10
SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, you know, it went away overnight when the stress showed up.
15:14
SPEAKER_00: And so I would wake up and I'd say, God, am I tired and God am I stressed?
15:18
SPEAKER_00: I know, I'll just have an extra cup of coffee.
15:20
SPEAKER_00: So I started with an extra cup of coffee.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: Then it thought, you know, I'm exhausted.
15:24
SPEAKER_00: I'll just take an energy shot.
15:25
SPEAKER_00: Then it turned into, oh, here's these energy pills.
15:28
SPEAKER_00: I'll take these.
15:29
SPEAKER_00: And it started stacking.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
15:31
SPEAKER_00: And before you know it, I was taking in so many stimulants and so much caffeine.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: And then it probably compounded the problem of not sleeping.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
15:41
SPEAKER_00: Which, right?
15:42
SPEAKER_00: So a self-defeating cycle that I was caught up in.
15:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh I did something else during this time too.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: What I didn't realize was when you take that much caffeine, it causes all your blood vessels to get smaller, smaller, smaller.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: So news to me, right?
15:54
SPEAKER_00: Second thing I started doing is I take testosterone for supplementation, and doctor says, you know, take this much, no problem.
16:01
SPEAKER_00: Well, I thought, man, I feel good when I take that.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: I guess I'll take a little bit more.
16:05
SPEAKER_00: And a little bit more turned into three times the prescribed amount.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: So what happens is when you take too much testosterone, your red blood count can get way too high and your blood can get way too thick.
16:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I heard that.
16:14
SPEAKER_00: So picture this deadly combo.
16:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh, too much caffeine and stimulants, all my blood vessels shrank and my blood got too thick.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: And that's what stopped the flow of blood to through my optic nerve to my brain.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
16:28
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
16:29
SPEAKER_00: That's their best theory is that I did it to myself.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: So compliance when on all of these great miracles, if treated the right way, is has become radically important for me to mention as well.
16:40
SPEAKER_01: And more is not always better.
16:43
SPEAKER_00: Stephanie, my problem is that you and I are very similar.
16:46
SPEAKER_00: I've always been in a camp of if one is good, two must be better.
16:49
SPEAKER_00: Right?
16:49
SPEAKER_00: I I'm sorry, like that's just always how I thought.
16:53
SPEAKER_00: This was a great wake-up call to realize, okay, maybe that's not the case.
16:56
SPEAKER_00: And when you're playing with things that can be a fine line between a miracle or something dangerous, compliance and labs and measuring all of your vitals and everything is crucial.
17:08
SPEAKER_01: I also think you said something really important, which I it's like, I think at your age when you don't expect something to happen to us, you know, or you know, when it does happen, to like, how did this happen for you, not to you?
17:20
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
17:20
SPEAKER_01: And I think probably as you got more depressed, it was kind of like, why is this happening to me?
17:25
SPEAKER_01: Why is this happening?
17:26
SPEAKER_01: Why is this happening?
17:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:27
SPEAKER_01: And the ability for you to get yourself out, thank goodness, through therapy, peptides, the whole thing is tools, like to look back and say, okay, like if I did this to myself, like, how do I make sure it doesn't happen again?
17:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
17:38
SPEAKER_00: And have somebody you can phone.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you that this is when I finally began therapy.
17:41
SPEAKER_00: And this is weird, you know.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: Remember for context at the time, I was 47 when I started therapy, 46 when I had the stroke, and I had never gone to therapy in my life.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: Didn't think I had a need for it, right?
17:52
SPEAKER_00: So um one day in March, it got so bad that I came home early from work and Lori wasn't home.
17:58
SPEAKER_00: I had the house to myself, and I just broke down uncontrollably crying.
18:03
SPEAKER_00: I I there was no reason I I was chemically depressed or whatever the situation was in my brain, right?
18:10
SPEAKER_00: Broke down uncontrollably crying to the point where I said, Enough is enough, something has to change.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: And so I had three people that I texted.
18:17
SPEAKER_00: I texted Dr.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: Boyd, my concierge doctor, who's also a dear, dear friend.
18:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:21
SPEAKER_00: And then I texted two high-performing male friends that I know go to therapy.
18:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:26
SPEAKER_00: And I said, I need a number right now.
18:28
SPEAKER_00: I need help.
18:29
SPEAKER_01: Good for you.
18:29
SPEAKER_00: This is rock bottom.
18:30
SPEAKER_01: Good for you that you knew.
18:31
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:31
SPEAKER_00: And so by the next day, I had uh an appointment from their referrals, and that was the beginning of therapy, which I still go to every week now, and I absolutely love.
18:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:41
SPEAKER_00: So there's a lot of great things that can come out of these really tough lessons.
18:44
SPEAKER_01: Isn't it also interesting the things that you don't think you need?
18:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, it's wild.
18:48
SPEAKER_00: I thought, you know, because I am a happy person by default.
18:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:52
SPEAKER_00: So it's like what the hell do I need therapy for?
18:54
SPEAKER_00: A tough day is a tough day, big deal.
18:56
SPEAKER_00: Like, tough it out.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: Now, a year and a half into therapy, I realized, oh, I've got a lot of bullshit that I stacked up over the years that I have to do.
19:03
SPEAKER_01: Well, we've coping, we have coping mechanisms, right?
19:05
SPEAKER_01: So it's like they go in a box, and oftentimes, like very highly successful people, you can put things in a box and chuck it away.
19:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: And you know, glasses have full.
19:14
SPEAKER_01: We don't need to take that out.
19:16
SPEAKER_01: Well, I haven't actually something happened to me recently that I haven't talked about really here, but it was probably like started around April or May.
19:23
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, this is so weird.
19:24
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, really flat.
19:26
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay, that can happen if you're on a high dose of a GLP.
19:30
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, no, I'm not on a high dose of a GLP.
19:32
SPEAKER_01: It's not, but it's going through my mind.
19:33
SPEAKER_01: Like I wasn't talking about it.
19:34
SPEAKER_01: I was just like observing it.
19:36
SPEAKER_01: I'm flat.
19:37
SPEAKER_01: And like nothing excited me.
19:39
SPEAKER_01: Like nothing.
19:40
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, like, this is and it got it kept going on.
19:43
SPEAKER_01: And then finally I mentioned it to JP, my partner.
19:46
SPEAKER_01: I said, something's off.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know if it's my hormones, but like I'm flat and I can't get out of it.
19:51
SPEAKER_01: And like it's very unlike me to do, you know.
19:54
SPEAKER_01: So I'm getting so then I go do a bunch of blood work and everything's fine.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: And I had some antioxidants.
19:58
SPEAKER_01: That wasn't it.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I'm still flat.
20:00
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, okay, I think I need to, and my my social media girl Andy's like, you're off.
20:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: Something's off.
20:07
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, you know, maybe it's a social media, like, I can't talk about peptides.
20:10
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like I'm a horse and pony show.
20:12
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like maybe it's in my mind, I'm justifying it.
20:14
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's all the the peptide industry changing.
20:17
SPEAKER_01: And like, why am I my life is great?
20:19
SPEAKER_01: I have no reason to be flat.
20:21
SPEAKER_01: I'm not a depressed person.
20:23
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I think I need to.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: I work with Christine Hassler, who's my coach.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: She's amazing.
20:27
SPEAKER_01: She's amazing.
20:27
SPEAKER_01: And I thought to myself, well, I don't want to start therapy again.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: Christine knows me so well.
20:31
SPEAKER_01: So I message her and I say, Hey, Christine, can I do some?
20:35
SPEAKER_01: Like, how do I come do some like touch-in, touch-ins?
20:38
SPEAKER_01: And so she's great.
20:39
SPEAKER_01: And we voice note a lot.
20:40
SPEAKER_01: And she goes, Why don't we do we do this?
20:42
SPEAKER_01: So I started voice noting her before I could get into her session.
20:45
SPEAKER_01: And she says, I think you're having an identity crisis.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: What do you take with that?
20:51
SPEAKER_01: Right.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: And I'm thinking to myself, oh my gosh, look, what is that?
20:54
SPEAKER_01: Okay, file it in.
20:55
SPEAKER_01: I'll, I guess I'll dig deep when I have the with her, you know.
20:58
SPEAKER_01: But I'm still flat, Chris.
20:59
SPEAKER_01: And so um, I'm getting a little worried at this point.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: And I remember so it was July 2nd, it wasn't that long ago.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: And I go on a boat day with um my family.
21:10
SPEAKER_01: And I leave my phone and I'm I'm on the water, I'm in the water, I'm having fun.
21:16
SPEAKER_01: I woke up the next day, back.
21:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it was almost that but it was gone that day while you're having fun.
21:21
SPEAKER_01: I didn't think about it the day because I was having fun, but I noticed the next morning because I woke up differently and I was excited again.
21:27
SPEAKER_01: So I had my call with Christine ironically, like a little later on in that week, and I said, okay, I brought up to speed and I said, This is crazy.
21:34
SPEAKER_01: And she explained to me that because, and this reminds me of you, is that when you're a very high functioning person, we are used to operating up here.
21:41
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
21:41
SPEAKER_01: Right.
21:41
SPEAKER_01: And you are just you're plowing through, you don't, you don't know that you're burnt out, what you're doing to yourself, because that's how we always live.
21:47
SPEAKER_01: Like, suck it up.
21:48
SPEAKER_01: Like this is but when someone else looks at your schedule, they'll be like, You're crazy.
21:51
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
21:51
SPEAKER_01: She's like, You went into the parasympathetic parasympathetic sympathetic kind of parasympathetic.
21:57
SPEAKER_00: I I know what, yeah, I know the word is.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: I know it'll come to me, parasympathetic.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Synth perisympathetic, perisympathetic system where I was just like, I was, I couldn't get out of this low.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: And it it I was in there and I had no tools to get out.
22:10
SPEAKER_01: And she goes, You ended up getting yourself out by getting back in nature, grounding yourself, not working.
22:15
SPEAKER_01: Sure luck.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: And then she basically sheer luck.
22:18
SPEAKER_01: And then she gave me these tools now to regulate my nervous system.
22:21
SPEAKER_00: And has it worked?
22:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
22:23
SPEAKER_01: It's been great.
22:24
SPEAKER_01: And I'm only, I think I'm, I haven't shared this story with anybody, but I think it's also really important like to reach out when you like everything's a tool.
22:30
SPEAKER_01: Like peptides are a tool.
22:31
SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, does Silank help me?
22:33
SPEAKER_01: It's a great tool.
22:34
SPEAKER_01: But like sometimes you've got to go and like have somebody else help you to understand like why you might be where you are.
22:40
SPEAKER_01: And it might not be, it's not your fault, but like you're in a you're I operate in a place that I can only go stay there for so long.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, ask for help.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: And us as high performers, yeah, and eternal optimists, I think we we think we'll just find a way through it, right?
22:55
SPEAKER_00: And we find evidence in our past that's I got through it in the past, so I don't need to ask for help right now.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: And the problem is it can get so bad that you can ask for help too late.
23:04
SPEAKER_00: Late.
23:05
SPEAKER_00: Right?
23:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:05
SPEAKER_00: And so, I mean, the world is stacked against us right now.
23:08
SPEAKER_00: And not to be pessimistic, but social media makes us see the world in a not realistic way, and it's in our face 24-7.
23:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a big one.
23:15
SPEAKER_00: Advertising and marketing is always telling us that something else would be better and we're missing something in our life, and we're inundated with very clever psychological advertising.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: And then the economy can be a challenge.
23:28
SPEAKER_00: And if you're an entrepreneur, that can be a challenge.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: And your friends and family, especially this age.
23:34
SPEAKER_00: So um, I'm yeah, like I mentioned earlier, I'm 48.
23:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm in that part of life where you got aging parents, and I don't have kids, but I've got uh uh nieces and nephews that you're worried about, and and uh my my sibling and Lori's sibling and everything, like the whole world needs something from you at this age, yeah.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: From above, from below, from the side, and it doesn't stop.
23:56
SPEAKER_00: It is, I think someone calls this the sandwich generation, this period of age where you write so you sandwich between your aging parents' needs and your children's needs and your career needs, and it's just a really tough block of time to get through.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: So the world at this moment is kind of stacked against you.
24:13
SPEAKER_00: You need to have the Christine Hasslers, yeah.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: You need to have the Dr.
24:16
SPEAKER_00: Boyds, yeah, you need to have those few friends on speed dial, and you need to have the awareness to recognize when your pattern is interrupted, to reach out to these people and to say, hey, friend, hey, professional, could I get some help?
24:30
SPEAKER_01: All right, podcast listeners, we've got so much to talk about.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: My gosh, the fall actually is right behind us, or I guess right in front of us, I should say, not behind us.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: And we are working on our IRLs and my retreat.
24:42
SPEAKER_01: So we are gonna be doing an IRL in Newport Beach at the Pendry on September 20th.
24:48
SPEAKER_01: So excited, the weather's so good.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: Lori and I are gonna be providing a great workout with you guys.
24:54
SPEAKER_01: I've got some special guests leading the workout, as well as our new swag.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: Lots of gifts, lots of vendors, and it's always a good time to just get our community together.
25:02
SPEAKER_01: And then Dallas Girlies, we have one on October 3rd.
25:06
SPEAKER_01: New location, new venue.
25:08
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be fantastic.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: And then I'm also gonna be doing my retreat in Aspen.
25:12
SPEAKER_01: A lot of you have been asking about it.
25:13
SPEAKER_01: I was kind of back and forth if I was gonna do it only because I've been so busy, and then I'm like, you know what?
25:18
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's my heart and soul.
25:19
SPEAKER_01: I love this retreat.
25:20
SPEAKER_01: It's only 12 people, it's very intimate, but it's gonna be a ton of not only peptide knowledge, but we're gonna bring in some other guests, lots of activities, enjoy Aspen, really good food, and just really get to know one another.
25:33
SPEAKER_01: I think what was cool about my first retreat, if those of you who followed along, is I created a loop group after, and they're all really good friends.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: A lot of them are actually my coaches now.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: So if it's something that you're interested in meeting other like-minded women, taking care of yourself, deep diving into peptides and a few other surprises, it's a really, really great three-night experience and four days in Aspen in the fall.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: It's awesome.
25:55
SPEAKER_01: There'll be much more to come on that.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: And it's and it's okay to not be okay.
25:58
SPEAKER_01: And I also think like the amount of my coaching calls that I do for peptides, like the amount of tears.
26:02
SPEAKER_01: I want to say, like, my calls are 99% women.
26:06
SPEAKER_01: I had a man yesterday who I love.
26:08
SPEAKER_01: It's like when I get a man, I'm like, yes, like I'm so excited, but they're mostly women.
26:11
SPEAKER_01: And I think a lot of it too is that like, because we also have like the menopause and and all the hormones, and you have a wife and Lori's younger than me, but like, hold on tight.
26:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it it gets some, it gets a little bit dicey.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: And one of the reasons why I jumped into creating the loop way is because like peptides work so well for me.
26:33
SPEAKER_01: And I am an open book, and I'm not like I I kind of what you see is what you get, and I'm not a gatekeeper, and I know you're very similar.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: And I think your energy towards peptides is probably one of the most similar to mine that I've seen.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: Like, just your passion for it because it changed your life.
26:47
SPEAKER_01: And like when they changed my life after my knee surgery, like I just felt like I had such a zest on life.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, how do I feel so good in my skin?
26:56
SPEAKER_01: And Lori and I talk about it on our podcast all the time.
26:58
SPEAKER_01: Like, and you've seen your wife go through a and she'll tell her story on here one day of like really like going through this place of like, wow, how do I have a gift of feeling so good at our age?
27:08
SPEAKER_01: And like, I want everyone to have it.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: And it is a place of sandwich, it is a place of like you feel like a has been.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: Or like as a female, you're like, Well, I'm not 30, I'm not even four.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: For me, I'm not even four, you know, where where do I fit in in the world?
27:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and like, how do I feel good?
27:22
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
27:23
SPEAKER_01: And so I think it's like kind of all of it.
27:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, and the mental piece is a really, really big part of it.
27:28
SPEAKER_01: And oftentimes, like, if you feel better in your body, then you do feel better mentally, but vice versa, if you're not feeling good mentally, and like it's really hard to feel good in your body.
27:37
SPEAKER_00: If I had to choose between peptides that helped my mental state and peptides that helped my physical uh aesthetic state, I would choose mental first.
27:45
SPEAKER_00: Luckily, we don't have to choose.
27:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I would like that's how important that is, and that's how tough it can be at this age with everything kind of coming at you.
27:53
SPEAKER_00: Speaking of like physical uh experiences with peptides.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: So during this time period that I was describing, you know, recovering from the stroke and all that, lucky me, I tear my right bicep off.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: Because you needed more shit to happen.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: Right on my labrum.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: So it tears my labrum and my bicep, you know, where the bicep drops down, it's a little ball down there.
28:11
SPEAKER_01: Was that in pickle?
28:12
SPEAKER_00: No, unfortunately, I was doing something very dumb.
28:13
SPEAKER_00: I was just moving a box in an awkward position over my head.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: No way.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: And being lazy, I just extended one arm and went pop, pop, pop.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: And right away I knew it happened because you saw the bicep fall, right?
28:22
SPEAKER_00: So this was March, right at the peak of me experiencing all this stuff.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: So um, again, peptides come into my life, and that's when I tried BPC and TB500 for the first time.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: Now, again, is it the peptides?
28:39
SPEAKER_00: Is it not?
28:40
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, but that's the only thing I did differently than all the other patients that my physical therapist, who only works with Olympians and Navy SEALs, and he was doing, he's such a good friend, he was doing, you know, my PT as a favor.
28:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, so he and my surgeon kept saying, This is wild.
28:55
SPEAKER_00: You're a month ahead of schedule.
28:56
SPEAKER_00: This is wild, you're a month ahead of schedule.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: And the entire time, it's not like I was doing extra good physical therapy or anything, like when he wasn't looking, I wasn't doing the exercises.
29:04
SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you that.
29:04
SPEAKER_00: We never do, right?
29:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm not I call it physical therapy's the worst.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just don't do it on my own.
29:09
SPEAKER_00: So um, they kept saying you're a month ahead of schedule.
29:12
SPEAKER_00: And I've got to attribute it probably towards those two things.
29:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh, absolutely.
29:16
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'll say yes to all of it.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: And that's why, you know, it's such an interesting, I mean, I'm not sure like what pushback you get.
29:23
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's I I ignorance is bliss, you know, coming into this industry and we talk about this.
29:28
SPEAKER_01: Like, I could first be on social media and be like, here is a peptide, and here's a link to my company, and here's how you inject.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: And like, I was thank god, thank God we were ahead of the time.
29:36
SPEAKER_01: Like, and I I feel so grateful for that.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: But like, if I had known what was coming and like the difficult, you know, in it.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: But the piece that I really love is like the naysayer kind of, or when someone comes to me, it a lot of the times are doctors, and I look at them, I'm like, just be curious.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: Like, and it's okay to change your mind because I think there's so many people who've like, well, gosh, I have said either a big social media person, like, I'm against GLPs, I'm against all this stuff, but so much more research has come out and like a microdose and all these other things that it's okay to change your mind.
30:10
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
30:10
SPEAKER_01: And I think there's a big piece of that where I just want to take people's armor down and be like, just be curious and like ask questions and then go do your own research and see what's right for you.
30:20
SPEAKER_01: But they're an amazing tool.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: And oftentimes I said, the things that you're really worried about, let me tell you why you have nothing to be worried about for that.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: And they eventually will come around, which I love, or we have a client and you love this.
30:32
SPEAKER_01: A woman will come on and I was like, what are your thoughts of a microdose of a GLP?
30:36
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to, I don't want to do a GLP.
30:37
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: Resistant right away.
30:39
SPEAKER_00: Oh, wait, I oh, I do not want to do a GLP because a friend said something or they saw something on social media.
30:43
SPEAKER_01: I said it's okay.
30:44
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm gonna tell you a little bit about the microdose.
30:45
SPEAKER_01: I understand you don't want it, but I want you to explain so you understand it all and we'll kind of move on.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: So as I move on, then she'll circle back.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: And then at the end, when I'm like, okay, well, so this is what I suggest.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: Well, what about a microdose of a GLP?
30:57
SPEAKER_01: They just want permission.
30:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:59
SPEAKER_01: They want permission that it's not their idea, it's someone else's idea.
31:02
SPEAKER_01: And so I think a lot of it too is like just giving women permission and men to be like, my God, like why are we gatekeeping stuff?
31:09
SPEAKER_01: And like, why shouldn't we all feel really, really good?
31:12
SPEAKER_00: It's interesting.
31:12
SPEAKER_00: Lori and I have had a policy in our marriage.
31:14
SPEAKER_00: So, for context, those that don't know us, you know, we've been married over 20 years, and we've had this policy called try it on for size, but it doesn't have to be a fit.
31:21
SPEAKER_00: And what I mean by that is, you know, you change, your desires change, where you are changes a lot over the course of 20 some years.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: God, yeah.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: And so long time ago, we established listen, when I bring something to you, the agreement is we'll try it on for size, but it doesn't have to be a fit.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: So that does two things.
31:38
SPEAKER_02: I love that.
31:39
SPEAKER_00: Number one, yeah, it makes you more open as a person.
31:41
SPEAKER_00: Boy, that sounds like a dumb idea, but I'll try it on for size.
31:46
SPEAKER_00: And then it removes the pressure of it doesn't have to be a fit as long as I try it on for size.
31:50
SPEAKER_00: But guess what?
31:51
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes things that end up surprising you and being the greatest new addition to your life because you are willing to try it on for size.
31:57
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, I feel like that policy applies now.
31:59
SPEAKER_00: While science is coming out at rapid pace, and all these advancements are happening at rapid pace, and you know, for every naysayer out there, there's somebody who's excited about it, for every person who's excited about it, there's a naysayer.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: The best policy you can have is well, try it on for size.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: See how you feel with it, see how you react to it.
32:19
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have to be a fit.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: Yes, but don't be so closed off that you're missing out on all these miracles in life.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: And don't be judgmental.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: I think that piece is the part that I'm like, and I'm also like sometimes like everyone should be able to age how they want to age.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:35
SPEAKER_01: You know, if someone wants to get plastic surgery or a hair transplant or whatever, two of them.
32:40
SPEAKER_00: I've had two hair transplants, or I wouldn't have all this hair.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: Stop.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: You have the best hair.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna tell you the best hair.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: Well, I appreciate that.
32:46
SPEAKER_01: See guys, it's all there.
32:47
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's how it's exercise.
32:49
SPEAKER_01: Yes, and I think at the end of the day, like, and I I do get stopped a lot more in Newport, like when I'm walking in, I'll women be like, Thank you so much.
32:56
SPEAKER_01: Cause I'm like, let's just give them permission to like be who they are and do what works for you.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: And like, I'm a lot of people have not their cup of tea, and that's totally fine.
33:05
SPEAKER_01: And like, even my family, like, I've got a lot of family members who think I'm crazy and would never do a peptide.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: And then I have my parents who it's changed their life, you know, and they are my biggest cheerleaders.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: And you just have to be like, you know, you gotta let them kind of do what they want to do, listen to these podcasts if you want more information.
33:22
SPEAKER_01: If not, go your separate way, but by all means, do not judge.
33:25
SPEAKER_01: And by the way, you might need them one day.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: It's being open to at least hearing people out and be and observing their stories.
33:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: Like you said, you may not need it right now, but you don't know if you're gonna have a stroke.
33:37
SPEAKER_00: You don't know if you're gonna tear your bicep out for your labor.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: You don't know what your future holds.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: And you're gonna at least want to have these things in your back pocket.
33:44
SPEAKER_00: You're at least going to want to be able to reach out and say, Hey, Stephanie, remember a year ago when you talked about X, Y, and Z?
33:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: Well, this is me now.
33:50
SPEAKER_00: Do you think it would help?
33:51
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: And when you're too closed off, what happens is then you feel dumb going back when you really need it and saying, Okay, do you think it would help me now?
33:58
SPEAKER_00: So just be open, be chill.
34:00
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have to be a fit, but you don't know when you're gonna need it.
34:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: And I also feel like it's okay to have things private.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: And that's part of loop health for me was like creating an online community where like you can go on and ask a lot of questions and be part of a community that doesn't necessarily have to be your social community if you're not there yet.
34:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: But I feel like that piece to me makes me really sad about peptides.
34:22
SPEAKER_01: Like how many people are hiding, hiding and shameful.
34:26
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we even like we're in Mexico, this was a couple months ago, and we were talking to some people in the pool, and it was a guy, and he was there with his coworker, and his coworker went, we talk about peptides, and his coworker went to go do something.
34:36
SPEAKER_01: He's like, Oh, yeah, I'm gonna GLP, but don't say anything when he comes back.
34:38
SPEAKER_00: Oh, interesting.
34:39
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I mean, it's it's the GOP, especially is very men and women is very, it's so sensitive.
34:46
SPEAKER_00: Why do you think that one out of all the peptides is the one that people are so, let's say, ashamed or or prone to hiding?
34:53
SPEAKER_01: I think because they don't understand that it's simply a tool.
34:56
SPEAKER_01: And I think they don't understand is a lot of it is their hard work.
34:59
SPEAKER_01: Like sure.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: Being on a peptide, being on a GLP, I mean, can you lose weight on it?
35:04
SPEAKER_01: Yes, and done the wrong way, can it be really bad?
35:06
SPEAKER_01: But like usually someone who's on a peptide, like a GLP, who's having great results with it, are doing all the other things, and they think if they say they're on a peptide, it takes away from all their hard work just because there's a lack of understanding around it, yeah.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: A, or they're gonna get, why would you be on a GLP?
35:24
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
35:24
SPEAKER_01: You don't need to lose 40 pounds, like not understanding what a GLP can really do from an insulin resistant standpoint and like how wonderful it is.
35:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:32
SPEAKER_01: So that's why I talk about it a lot that I'm on a microdose of a GLP.
35:35
SPEAKER_01: Because if you looked at me, you would say, why the heck would you ever be on that?
35:38
SPEAKER_02: Right.
35:39
SPEAKER_01: And then I can show you my blood work and I can show you all my DEXA scans and explain to you why it's like the perfect thing for me to go on and off of and how it helps me so much.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: This is why I'm a huge proponent of sharing your journey and sharing what you're on unapologetically, because people are suffering.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: And if you weren't sharing that you're microdosing a GLP, they might be wasting away doing three hours of cardio per day and creating metabolic damage and all this other stuff, saying, I don't understand how she's doing it and I can't.
36:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:07
SPEAKER_00: And the fact that you're willing to be open and say, hey, by the way, I'm microdosing this GLP, then gives them permission to stop listening to their judgmental neighbor or their stupid coworker and to come and say, hey, I'm really suffering.
36:20
unknown: Yeah.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: Do you think this would work for me?
36:22
SPEAKER_00: That's why I talk about the hair transplants.
36:24
SPEAKER_00: That's why I talk about the stroke.
36:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:25
SPEAKER_00: That's why I talk about the TRT.
36:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:27
SPEAKER_00: Why I talk about all the peptides I use.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: I want to be an advocate for what has gotten me out of tough times so that other people don't have to suffer when there's an answer sitting there for them.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to take it a step further.
36:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to say, you're actually being selfish.
36:42
SPEAKER_00: If you're hiding this, and I'm not judging you, I'm just saying, yeah.
36:46
SPEAKER_00: Here's a perspective for you to consider.
36:48
SPEAKER_00: By you hiding that you're using something that is really enhancing your life, you're being selfish.
36:55
SPEAKER_00: You're choosing how you feel about your own reputation over everybody else that needs something and is suffering.
37:04
SPEAKER_00: So interesting thought.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: It's also fun because I can spot a GLP user pretty quickly.
37:08
SPEAKER_01: Not in a good or bad way, but when someone denies it, I start laughing.
37:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, you're so you're telling me you're on four other ones, but not the microdose of a GLP?
37:17
SPEAKER_00: Right.
37:17
SPEAKER_00: Bullshit.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: Right.
37:18
SPEAKER_01: So anyway, I think we'll get there.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: And I think like through our community and through people like you talking about it, me talking about it, Lori talking about it.
37:25
SPEAKER_01: I think we will eventually.
37:27
SPEAKER_01: I I truly they think 30 million people are on GLPs right now.
37:31
SPEAKER_01: I think every middle-aged man or woman should be on a microdose of GLP.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: That's me personally.
37:35
SPEAKER_01: I don't think anyone doesn't qualify.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: And it's not just about weight loss.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: There are so many amazing uh beneficial side effects that are coming out in these studies.
37:43
SPEAKER_01: My weight, by the way, on my three DEXA scans in one year has been exactly the same.
37:48
SPEAKER_01: It might be like 0.1, point exactly exactly the same.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: Now my body composition's changed a little bit, but like the micro, if I if a microdose of a or of a GLP, I would keep shrinking and getting smaller.
38:01
SPEAKER_01: And so and I wouldn't be putting on muscle.
38:02
SPEAKER_01: Right.
38:02
SPEAKER_01: Like you'd have all this negative side effects.
38:04
SPEAKER_01: But if you monitor it and understand it, it's the most amazing tool.
38:08
SPEAKER_00: Here's my favorite part about a GLP as a tool.
38:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, for me, it got rid of all of the mental food noise.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: So I was brought up in the Midwest, in the typical Midwest family where food was celebration.
38:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:21
SPEAKER_00: Something went right, it was food.
38:23
SPEAKER_00: When something went wrong, it was food for comfort.
38:26
SPEAKER_00: The way you bonded was food.
38:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:28
SPEAKER_00: My mom, who's the greatest person on the planet, I couldn't ask for a better mom, also was the type of person that would say, Oh, come on, honey, why aren't you having seconds?
38:37
SPEAKER_00: Come on, honey, why aren't you having thirds?
38:38
SPEAKER_00: Because her value was, did I make a dish so good that they're having seconds and thirds, right?
38:43
SPEAKER_00: So that is some really deep programming.
38:45
SPEAKER_00: No joke.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: So then as an adult, the thing I struggled with the most was all of this food noise.
38:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:52
SPEAKER_00: Extra, extra cardio all the time.
38:53
SPEAKER_00: And Lori talks about this too.
38:54
SPEAKER_01: Burning it off, burning it off.
38:56
SPEAKER_00: Twice a day workouts, all this stuff trying to burn off this uncontrollable, insatiable need that I had for more and more food.
39:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:03
SPEAKER_00: Because as an adult, what would happen?
39:04
SPEAKER_00: When things are wrong, food will make me happy quick.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: When things are great, let's celebrate with food.
39:09
SPEAKER_00: Um it's football season.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: It's really good if you're grilling out and it's more food, right?
39:14
SPEAKER_00: I'm stressed out with work.
39:15
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I can't wait for dinner and that drink tonight.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: And then I would have such a cycle of desire and then shame.
39:24
SPEAKER_00: And desire and then shame.
39:26
SPEAKER_00: And that's a terrible cycle to be caught up in.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: So what happened?
39:29
SPEAKER_00: Tried the GLP and did I get more fit?
39:31
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
39:32
SPEAKER_00: But for me, the favorite side effect is this cycle of craving.
39:36
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
39:36
SPEAKER_00: And this cycle of feeling like you have to work everything off.
39:40
SPEAKER_00: Work it off.
39:41
SPEAKER_00: Right.
39:42
SPEAKER_00: And this cycle of feeling enslaved to this voice back here that says, you want the sweets, you want the savory, you want the pizza, it's gone.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: So now I feel very empowered from the standpoint of when I choose to eat something, it's because I'm choosing to eat it.
39:58
SPEAKER_00: It's not kicking down my door saying, eat me.
40:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:01
SPEAKER_01: And also it's like you're like, oh, this is cool.
40:03
SPEAKER_01: I want a burger.
40:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I want it, you know, or what, or whatever it is.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: I think food noise is the most interesting piece of it because when you are interested in your brain and the psychology behind it, I was just talking to my trainer who was on before you.
40:14
SPEAKER_01: And for me, so I was like a runner in college, like cardio was like my thing.
40:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:20
SPEAKER_01: I was good at it, but then it also served as like an addictive tool, right?
40:24
SPEAKER_01: And so for me, it was like, well, I can eat this because I'm gonna go run and burn it off.
40:28
SPEAKER_01: But then it turns into like, well, I can eat this now.
40:30
SPEAKER_01: I have to go do this, right?
40:31
SPEAKER_01: And so it was this like kind of same thing, this vicious cycle of just like consuming purging, and you're purging it in a different way by just like having to run it off, running my body to the ground.
40:41
SPEAKER_01: Since my knee surgery, peptides, and the way I train, it's like so different.
40:45
SPEAKER_01: So for me, it's like I'm in the gym to build, right?
40:49
SPEAKER_01: And then I'm eating to fuel the build.
40:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:52
SPEAKER_01: And not the burn, right?
40:53
SPEAKER_01: So it's like the opposite.
40:54
SPEAKER_01: Like, if I feel like I indulge, I in my mind I'm like, oh my God, this looks so exciting.
40:58
SPEAKER_01: Like I've all this energy that I can use when I lift tomorrow.
41:02
SPEAKER_01: Not like I've got to go run this off.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: So, but I do very it was interesting, Chris.
41:07
SPEAKER_01: Like when I was so addicted, like I believe God, woo-woo, however you like believe in, but like my injury happened for me because I would have not gotten off literally the treadmill.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: Like I was running through my divorce.
41:20
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
41:20
SPEAKER_01: I was inflamed.
41:22
SPEAKER_01: I was like, I mean, everyone has their vices, and mine was just like, well, I'm gonna work out instead of like drinking too much and having too many partners or whatever.
41:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I'm just gonna numb myself by like beating myself up in the gym where I have nothing left to give in the day.
41:34
SPEAKER_01: So I was so inflamed that when the accident finally happened, I literally remember going down the toboggan being like, I surrendered so quickly because I was like, I'm tired.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:46
SPEAKER_01: And I would have never stopped.
41:47
SPEAKER_01: I mean, literally, I'd never stopped.
41:49
SPEAKER_01: So when I went through, obviously I couldn't even walk much less run.
41:52
SPEAKER_01: So by the time like I was got the green light to run, um, I didn't want to do it because I never wanted to be addicted to it again.
42:01
SPEAKER_01: And I knew kind of like you know, it it you can start up real quickly.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: So for myself, um, I was not doing any cardio.
42:09
SPEAKER_01: And then finally, because of your blood thickening and stuff, my um PT and my doctor's like, I think you should try to do at least once a week for 20 minutes, do something.
42:17
SPEAKER_01: I treat my run, I often don't do it every week, but I when I I I do not ever let myself get because sometimes, oh, I remember hearing me back, oh, I went a little longer one day.
42:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, that felt so good.
42:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, no.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: I will never let myself get there again because I was in such a trap, and I know it's not good for me.
42:36
SPEAKER_01: But just having the realization of like, and I do think the GLP helps me because like I don't need that.
42:42
SPEAKER_01: I don't need the numbing, I don't need the fixing.
42:44
SPEAKER_01: It's just kind of like I'm okay, just in the normal ebbs and flows, but I'm very aware of it.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: It's interesting when you say these things happen for us, not to us.
42:53
SPEAKER_00: It's true, and I've got a funny example, my neurosurgeon doctor that, you know, diagnosed the stroke and all that stuff.
43:02
SPEAKER_00: One of these women that's so highly educated that she maybe is a little on the spectrum and doesn't have good bedside manner.
43:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
43:09
SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh, yeah, there's a lot, by the way.
43:11
SPEAKER_00: Right?
43:11
SPEAKER_00: And I'll especially any anybody neuro, like, you know, very they they tend to have that little bit of ego.
43:17
SPEAKER_00: Sorry if anyone everyone's listening, but you do.
43:19
SPEAKER_00: And so I'll never forget, she sat there in the room, uh, after giving me my diagnosis and explaining what happened, she says, you know, I'm kind of okay with the fact that you're gonna be blind out of this eye going forward because I see too many guys like you come through here that don't know when to quit, they don't know when to rest, they don't know when to stop abusing the supplement or stop abusing the testosterone or whatever it may be.
43:47
SPEAKER_00: And this is going to be your daily reminder to remember compliance and to rethink every decision going forward.
43:54
SPEAKER_00: And as shitty of a thing as that was for her to say from a bedside manner standpoint, guess what?
43:59
SPEAKER_00: She was right.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: She's right.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: She was right.
44:01
SPEAKER_00: I rethink every decision because of this daily reminder, every minute of every day that I can't see over here, but I can see just fine over here, which is a really annoying thing, by the way.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: Imagine like if you took your hand in front of your eye like this your whole life, that's what it's like now.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, she's right.
44:17
SPEAKER_00: It makes me rethink everything.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: So these things that are setbacks can really set you up for a better, healthier, more successful life going forward.
44:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:26
SPEAKER_00: When you're kind of dealt that.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: And I use, you know, I use it a lot because why this is happening for me, not to me.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:33
SPEAKER_01: And I need to figure out why.
44:34
SPEAKER_01: Or like we talked about earlier with my Instagram.
44:36
SPEAKER_01: Like, I must have not learned this lesson yet.
44:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay, what more is there to learn?
44:39
SPEAKER_01: Be curious.
44:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:40
SPEAKER_01: You know, like because I still believe that like thing, the reason why is things might continue to happen and you're in the same financial situation or whatever keeps repeating itself, it's because you've not yet learned a lesson or changed the pattern or whatever it is.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like that's a lot of I actually see that a lot with my clients.
44:56
SPEAKER_01: They come in and it's just like, all right.
44:58
SPEAKER_01: And I say hard.
44:59
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't say probably as harsh as like your brain lady did.
45:03
SPEAKER_01: But oftentimes I'll look in the mirror, I'll say to them, I said, I mean, I asked a question how many times, how many times a week do you go to the gym for?
45:09
SPEAKER_01: Okay, how many, you know, what are you eating, whatever?
45:11
SPEAKER_01: Do you like what you see in the mirror?
45:12
SPEAKER_01: No.
45:13
SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, the definition of insanity.
45:14
SPEAKER_01: So why would you not change?
45:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, they kind of look at me.
45:17
SPEAKER_01: But I have sometimes you have to be because I'm like, I want to be like, oh my gosh, I want to shake you.
45:21
SPEAKER_01: What's interesting, I think, if you don't mind sharing with the listeners too, like you hang around like a lot of, I'm gonna boost you a little bit.
45:27
SPEAKER_01: You and Lori hang out with a lot of like very successful people.
45:30
SPEAKER_01: You guys, you know, Lori and you speak a lot, and I think you have, it's been such a gift, probably.
45:35
SPEAKER_01: What do you see when I when you kind of talk about high-functioning men and women like yourselves, you know, who are they aware that they need to make these changes or decisions?
45:46
SPEAKER_01: Or do you see a lot of them still like just like plugging away of like, I need to be the best, or do you think they have more knowledge now?
45:51
SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you exactly what I see as good and disciplined as these high performers are in certain parts of their life that made them successful or made them well known.
46:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're also equally good at being the world's greatest salesman to themselves at selling themselves bullshit.
46:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: So it's easy to justify why this extra testosterone isn't gonna hurt you.
46:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:12
SPEAKER_00: Even though deep down you're like, oh, this could be a problem.
46:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:15
SPEAKER_00: It's easy to sell yourself on, oh, me working this many hours is fine because I'm different than other people.
46:20
SPEAKER_00: It's easy to sell yourself on whatever it is that deep down your gut saying, hey man, this is probably not right, but you can quickly override your gut feeling because you're too intelligent for your own good.
46:30
SPEAKER_00: Right.
46:30
SPEAKER_00: And you're the world's greatest salesman to yourself.
46:32
SPEAKER_00: You know exactly what your hot buttons are, yeah.
46:34
SPEAKER_00: You know exactly what your motivations are.
46:36
SPEAKER_00: So you can sell yourself on the lies, you can sell yourself on the bullshit for a long enough time until there's no choice but for life to happen to you to get you to slow down or make a better decision.
46:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
46:48
SPEAKER_01: I believe that.
46:49
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it it's so and then that that's what happened to me.
46:51
SPEAKER_01: It's what happened to you in different scenarios.
46:53
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: Right.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: But then they also like sometimes open up like the best doors and windows, like for what's next.
46:58
SPEAKER_01: So tell me, okay, so when we met, I mean, I think everyone's heard my story with Lori.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: If they're not, go listen to my podcast with Lori, and or we'll tell it when she's back on here.
47:06
SPEAKER_01: All right, podcast listeners, we have Loop Health.
47:09
SPEAKER_01: It has launched our online app.
47:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited.
47:14
SPEAKER_01: I'm proud.
47:15
SPEAKER_01: It's something where you are going to find where you have a community at your fingertips.
47:19
SPEAKER_01: So imagine all these different chat groups where you can go in and talk about your GLP's networking, men's health, menopause, brain, beauty, you name it.
47:28
SPEAKER_01: There's a place you can go in and not only talk to our coaches, our doctors, but our community in general, because peptides are not a one size fits all.
47:35
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna have blood work at costs, make it really easy, a place where you can actually input your peptides, figure out your how to reconstitute them.
47:44
SPEAKER_01: It'll give you a reminder of when to take them, when to reorder them, and everything is gonna be easy and at your fingertips.
47:50
SPEAKER_01: We'll have live reconstitution calls and just live chats in general on different topics.
47:55
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna bring in guests, nutritionists, trainers, all of that.
47:59
SPEAKER_01: And I actually have my workouts on my app now.
48:03
SPEAKER_01: So you can follow along with Brad in your own gym on your own, doing the exact same workout that I do, progressive overload that works.
48:10
SPEAKER_01: There's a men's and a woman's version.
48:11
SPEAKER_01: We keep it really simple for beginners, all the way to advanced lifters.
48:15
SPEAKER_01: So we're trying to create something for everybody.
48:18
SPEAKER_01: Every Loop BioLabs customer will get a free 45 days in the app to really experience it and jump in and realize that you don't have to actually take peptides alone.
48:27
SPEAKER_01: It's much better to do it in a community.
48:29
SPEAKER_01: So check it out.
48:31
SPEAKER_01: So tell me, like when you kind of learned about me and Loop, and I mean, we met, we you and I talked about peptides from the second I met Lori at her birthday party.
48:39
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
48:39
SPEAKER_01: Like, what made you have you heard of peptides before?
48:43
SPEAKER_01: Had you like tell me a little bit about where you were and kind of how you got because I mean, I'm by the way, Chris and Lori, if you don't know, um, are partners with us at Loop, and it's like it's one of my most like things that I'm one of the happiest about.
48:55
SPEAKER_01: It's one of the things I'm most excited about, which is fun.
48:57
SPEAKER_00: So this is interesting.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: We uh have invested in over 22 different startups and have equity in tons of companies, right?
49:04
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: The one that I am most excited about is Loop by far.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: I freaking love Loop and I love what it stands for because of how it helped me.
49:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, I already shared the story of giving me my brain back and month ahead of schedule with my surgery.
49:17
SPEAKER_00: I want other people to have that same break that I got when I was feeling at my rock bottom.
49:25
SPEAKER_00: And so I was already looking to start a peptide company because I was so passionate about that.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: When you know, right after I'd met you and right after you had made some of these recommendations that that changed my life.
49:38
SPEAKER_00: And I never thought to think about partnering with you guys.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh, they got their own thing going.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: How hard can it be?
49:44
SPEAKER_00: I just gonna everyone's opening a little peptide.
49:47
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was like you're hearing a lot of you being like, how do we do that?
49:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
49:50
SPEAKER_00: And so I was already in my mind looking for ways to start one.
49:53
SPEAKER_00: And it wasn't until you guys said, Why don't you just come work with us, come partner with us, come like let's kind of do this together.
50:01
SPEAKER_00: And by the way, you also said, look at how many hassles there are, look at how difficult this is, look how much how many moving parts are for you to stand up.
50:09
SPEAKER_00: And I thought, oh my God, why wouldn't you join an already rising tide?
50:13
SPEAKER_00: And that's what you are, and that's what the peptide industry is.
50:18
SPEAKER_00: It's an already rising tide, and you can't fight a rising tide.
50:20
SPEAKER_00: You can either join it, yeah, right, or or you can get swallowed by it.
50:24
SPEAKER_00: And so it was really a situation of it making such an impact on my life that I wanted to be an advocate for this for everybody else.
50:35
SPEAKER_00: And then the perfect timing of you guys already going first and doing the hard work and standing everything up, I knew I could have a better impact on people by just climbing on board this rocket ship that you already built, as opposed to trying to build everything from scratch myself.
50:51
SPEAKER_01: And you're involved in so many other companies too.
50:53
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what you know you do it.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: So one of my toxic traits is I will say yes to starting things.
51:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, knowing I don't have the bandwidth, but thinking I'll somehow figure it out.
51:05
SPEAKER_01: You're so excited.
51:05
SPEAKER_00: Right?
51:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I am for sure what they call a fast start.
51:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm definitely a visionary.
51:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:11
SPEAKER_00: So I need integrators all around me in my life, or none of my ideas will will come to life too.
51:16
SPEAKER_01: Well, I think it was fun to our story too.
51:17
SPEAKER_01: It's like literally, like JP and I dated you and Lori for a while.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it wasn't, I mean, we there were there's a lot of you know, back and forth, right?
51:24
SPEAKER_01: Because you're like of ways to make it work and us bringing telehealth in and how does this work?
51:28
SPEAKER_01: And like, how do we be partners if we can't speak on social media?
51:31
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we really kind of I feel like went back and forth.
51:34
SPEAKER_01: And you know, for JP and I, obviously bringing anybody into our baby, we they we very protective.
51:40
SPEAKER_01: And we we have no, we were funded by ourselves, you know, we don't have investors, we are bootstrapped, we built the plane in the air.
51:46
SPEAKER_01: So, like bringing anybody in isn't just like a small decision to make, you know, it's very much like, and we didn't want you just in in one part.
51:52
SPEAKER_01: We're like, if you're gonna come in, you're in.
51:54
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
51:55
SPEAKER_01: And um I think what's really important to us, and I think it's a good point to our stories, like JP and my story of like how we met and us being together, and who we want to be around and align ourselves with.
52:09
SPEAKER_01: It was like we're very, very sensitive to just like different types of people and couples and like our energy and our time.
52:16
SPEAKER_01: And when we met you and Lori, you know, I left and I was just like, they remind me of you and I, babe.
52:23
SPEAKER_01: And and I said, you know, just not only the love and respect that you guys have for each other, but just like the ability to work together and be each other's, you know, biggest cheerleaders and being like really open and honest and vulnerable.
52:34
SPEAKER_01: And like, like we all share that very, I think early on in our dating.
52:38
SPEAKER_01: I'd say we were.
52:40
SPEAKER_01: But it's so fun because we also get to learn so much from you guys and like the masterminds.
52:44
SPEAKER_01: I would love you to top a little bit because it's like the masterminds that you guys create and do has been really helpful for us in building loop health and like sitting there in the the you know, the whiteboarding with with you guys, and it's been such a fun synergy as you are building the plane in the air.
52:58
SPEAKER_01: So you share a little about your background because I think and how it works so well with I think JP and I and Loop Health.
53:03
SPEAKER_00: I've listened there's a lot of things that I don't do well.
53:06
SPEAKER_00: The one thing that I have somehow accidentally done well my entire career, no matter what chapter I was in, was being able to recognize the right people to partner with and being able to bring smart people together and leverage each other's talents and know how to strategically brainstorm in a way that the combination of everybody's ideas is the rising tide, that is the lift for everything.
53:31
SPEAKER_00: And I've seen it time and time again back in my uh banking career, which is kind of where I started with HSBC.
53:37
SPEAKER_01: By the way you see you do not sound like a banker at all.
53:39
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I spent nine years at you know, at the time at the world's biggest bank.
53:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
53:43
SPEAKER_00: And I flew up through the ranks.
53:45
SPEAKER_00: And the reason I did was not because I was talented by any stretch of imagination compared to my peers.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: I knew how to pull together all of the offices, all of the regions, all of the people, and make them brainstorm together in a way that lifted everybody up.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:02
SPEAKER_00: So my teams would always end up doing a lot better than everybody else's teams, not because they were necessarily more talented, but because they were tapping into each other's individual talents.
54:12
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
54:13
SPEAKER_00: So then I took that and when I saw that work at the bank when I left banking, and I brought it into um a partnership I had at the time when I owned a mortgage bank and sold to my partners.
54:22
SPEAKER_00: Same thing.
54:23
SPEAKER_00: It was everybody kind of doing their own thing.
54:25
SPEAKER_00: And I realized, no, no, no.
54:27
SPEAKER_00: If we started doing these idea shares in a very strategic way, then we can make everybody's lives, make each other's lives easier, and as a whole, collectively, we can be more successful.
54:37
SPEAKER_00: So then it worked there.
54:38
SPEAKER_00: Then I came home and Lori's career took off in fitness and self-development, all those things.
54:42
SPEAKER_00: And I was kind of behind the scenes for a while and um noticed that there was a lot of talented individuals where they had this piece of the puzzle or that piece of the puzzle, but not all of the puzzle, because nobody has all the pieces to the puzzle.
54:56
SPEAKER_00: And I thought this is wild that this person doesn't know this person that they're not collaborating.
54:59
SPEAKER_00: And it's wild that these five or six people over here aren't working together and sharing ideas because I could see their individual talents, I could see their individual assets, but they couldn't see it in each other.
55:08
SPEAKER_00: So I just started bringing people together in, I guess now what you'd call masterminds.
55:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:13
SPEAKER_00: And whether it's a small group or whether it's a large group of 30 or 40, I know how to harvest the best few traits that each person has, put them on the table and share those traits, share those ideas with each other so that when you leave, you have all the missing pieces of the puzzle.
55:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're very good at it.
55:34
SPEAKER_00: That's just what I've believed in from the beginning, from accidentally stumbling upon it in the early parts of my career.
55:40
SPEAKER_00: And I'll tell you, it works for everybody.
55:42
SPEAKER_00: I don't care what industry you're in, I don't care what your goals are, I don't care what your background is.
55:48
SPEAKER_00: If you're willing to collaborate, you know, true energy exchange, meaning you've got to put your assets on the table and know that somebody else is gonna put their assets on the table.
55:58
SPEAKER_00: And by combining these, it's gonna lift everybody collectively.
56:01
SPEAKER_00: If you're willing to do that, then that is the shortcut.
56:04
SPEAKER_00: Collaboration is the shortcut.
56:05
SPEAKER_00: When you're trying to figure things out on your own, you're missing the opportunity to learn from other people's mistakes.
56:10
SPEAKER_00: When you're trying to push through on your own, there is a shortcut right in front of you that someone's willing to lend you that you haven't bothered asking them for.
56:17
SPEAKER_00: Right.
56:18
SPEAKER_00: So the more that you can create this, the better.
56:20
SPEAKER_01: What's interesting to say that?
56:21
SPEAKER_01: Because I was, I think in the health and wellness industry right now, I'm a firm believer because it's so noisy.
56:26
SPEAKER_01: The people who are gonna rise the top are the industries or the businesses that are collabing, yeah, that are really sharing their email lists that are really like yes, and what I'm and that's what I'm really trying to do with loop health is like, how do we be better together?
56:38
SPEAKER_01: Because there is so much competition.
56:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
56:40
SPEAKER_01: And like it's so hard to sell a product.
56:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, online, like between TikTok shop and the next maze, we're all just sick of it.
56:47
SPEAKER_01: It's just kind of like that worked at one point.
56:50
SPEAKER_01: I don't think that's necessarily working, and there's just so much out there.
56:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
56:54
SPEAKER_01: So I think that the collab and like bringing like what is worked for you, what is not, but like there's some great companies, but like we're better off collabing on things and bringing people together, sharing lists, sharing communities, and then seeing how far you can get.
57:06
SPEAKER_00: Well, it there's two types of people in the world, right?
57:09
SPEAKER_00: In this in this business world.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: There's those that operate from a place of scarcity, meaning they think my idea, my way, I don't want to share it.
57:16
SPEAKER_00: If I share it, then other people are gonna take my customers.
57:19
SPEAKER_00: Or there's people that operate from a place of abundance.
57:21
SPEAKER_00: And that is there's enough to go around.
57:23
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
57:24
SPEAKER_00: I've looked at the whole pie.
57:25
SPEAKER_00: I've realized I only need this small slice of the pie.
57:29
SPEAKER_00: So there's enough for all of us.
57:30
SPEAKER_00: So I want to make it easier on myself.
57:32
SPEAKER_00: I want to share my ideas, I want to get your ideas, and I want to lift our industry collectively because there's enough to go around for all of us.
57:39
SPEAKER_01: There's 7 billion people in this world.
57:41
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
57:44
SPEAKER_00: When you move to that side of abundance, realizing there's enough to go around, yeah.
57:48
SPEAKER_00: And when you really analyze your goals and say, oh my God, the slice of the pie I need is a percent of a percent of a percent of a percent for me to be happy and hit my goals, then you quickly snap into why wouldn't I share?
57:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, why wouldn't I collaborate?
58:00
SPEAKER_00: Why wouldn't I make it easier on myself and on other people?
58:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
58:03
SPEAKER_00: And those are the ones that I'm seeing thriving right now, not the ones that have the my idea, my way.
58:08
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna share this, I'm gonna hoard this to myself type of mentality.
58:11
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
58:12
SPEAKER_01: A lot of the stuff I talk about too, especially now when I can go online, but I'm back.
58:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
58:17
SPEAKER_00: Welcome back.
58:17
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
58:18
SPEAKER_01: When I get off, we'll do my first post.
58:20
SPEAKER_01: I'm back.
58:22
SPEAKER_01: No, um, but just like, and this speaks for myself because you know, uh, Lori and I talk about this a lot.
58:27
SPEAKER_01: Like I was never forward-facing, I was always like very much private, like behind the scenes, like I don't want to say shy, but just like private, we're private and just like I don't need and didn't want to be judged on.
58:39
SPEAKER_00: Was it desire there or was it a fear-based thing?
58:42
SPEAKER_01: It's very interesting.
58:43
SPEAKER_01: So, two things.
58:43
SPEAKER_00: So I did a lot of my human-cause you've always been an entrepreneur.
58:46
SPEAKER_01: I have been, but I have I've always been entrepreneur, but I've never been like out there on social media at all.
58:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
58:52
SPEAKER_01: So like going public was like very big deal.
58:56
SPEAKER_01: Speaking to the camera, like the you know, yapping and stuff.
58:59
SPEAKER_01: No, I did a lot, but like very much, no my God, I think more like a people pleaser and not wanting to be judged and being like, you know, who does she think she is?
59:07
SPEAKER_01: Kind of this is the version of me.
59:10
SPEAKER_01: I this is what I kind of was thinking.
59:12
SPEAKER_01: When I found something I was so passionate about, and I knew I remember watching, um, I mean, I hate to say who it was, but it she's very brilliant businesswoman.
59:21
SPEAKER_01: It was like Kim Kardashian did her, what are they called?
59:24
SPEAKER_01: Not their masterminds that they're TED Talk kind of thing.
59:27
SPEAKER_01: And she said, if you are not online selling your product, you're stupid.
59:31
SPEAKER_01: Like, get out, like so.
59:32
SPEAKER_01: I was like, well, then if I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna really kind of go for it and do it.
59:37
SPEAKER_01: And there was a part of me that just I believed in it so much that I didn't care what anyone thought.
59:41
SPEAKER_02: Right.
59:41
SPEAKER_01: And I just showed up as me.
59:43
SPEAKER_01: And I had done a lot of other things in my life.
59:46
SPEAKER_01: Like I had moved and I had broken my marriage.
59:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I was just blowing my life up left and right.
59:50
SPEAKER_01: So at that point, like really not caring what people thought was like already part of like sure, I'm gonna live my life for me.
59:56
SPEAKER_01: But I tell people, like, on the other side of fear is so much fun and freedom.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's great.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_01: You know, and really truly like to say, God, if you what if I had started six months ago, you know, like just start.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_01: And like it doesn't have to be pretty.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_01: No, and I was it won't be, period.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_01: No.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_01: When I before we did loop, I don't know if you know this story, but like I was going to, I'd launch, I was gonna launch this whole company called Chapters, where I was gonna help men and women get through one chapter to the next because that's what I had done.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_01: I'd been a health coach and a life coach, and like I had was really comfortable in that world and I hadn't been working because my therapist before said, Don't work because of your divorce.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_01: So I hired Christine Hasser to help me figure out, okay, not only from a business perspective, but like what am I gonna do next?
1:00:38
SPEAKER_01: And now I had had I had a website, I had a video, Chris, I had the name.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I was like, everything was in my mind perfect.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_01: And I had this failure to launch.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_01: Couldn't it feel right?
1:00:48
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't do it, couldn't do it.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_01: So without going into the whole story, because I've told it on here before, is I went to a retreat in Mexico just just because that Zwag was doing it, and it was like it's a business thing, and I was like, you know, justifying everything I might.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna come back from this retreat and am I gonna do this business or not?
1:01:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, and Christine reminded me, you know, the times that you want the most answers are the times that you're the most confused.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_01: So sit in it, sit in it.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_01: So, long story short, I ended up forming a loop on that patio at the retreat.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_00: That's wild.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_01: And completely pivoted and threw everything I had done away.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_01: And if I had sat there and thought like it has to be perfect, I'd have never gotten loop off the ground.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_01: Thank God for JP, who's like you, who's just like, we're gonna build it in the air.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_01: And we started yesterday.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_01: So get out there.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think a lot of my messages is like everything is possible and like you collab and you get another side of fear and you find your people who do want to support you, who do want to see you, and who want to collab and and and and do things.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_01: And it's been really fun.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_01: And I can't imagine my life now if I hadn't.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_00: It's interesting.
1:01:49
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's easy, it's easy to say things like done is better than perfect.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_00: It's easy to say things like start before you're ready.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_00: But the truth is, like you said, you had kind of failure to launch and you had a lot of fears about being front-facing, and something was holding you back.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_00: And what I think, and this is just me kind of summarizing your story, but what I think happened was you were so much more passionate about the change that loop could create in other people didn't matter that it outweighed the concern you had for how you were gonna look or what if it didn't go right.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's when you know you're in the right business.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_00: When you care more about solving a problem than you care about how you might look if it doesn't work out or if something goes wrong, that's when you know that you're in the business for the right reason.
1:02:29
SPEAKER_00: I heard somebody recently say is that the worst reason to start a business is because you want to be an entrepreneur.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_00: The worst reason to start a business is because you want to make money.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_00: The worst reason to start a business is because you think something is a good idea.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_00: The only valid reason to start a business is if you're obsessed with solving that problem.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_00: And that hits.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_00: I see people start businesses for the wrong reasons all the time.
1:02:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:02:50
SPEAKER_00: Right?
1:02:51
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna look good, it's gonna be a good idea, they don't want to miss this rising tide, whatever it might be.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_00: None of those are valid reasons.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_00: The only valid reason to start a business that'll actually make you successful in the long run is if you are so obsessed with solving that problem that you don't give a shit how you look.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you don't care if something goes wrong, you don't care what keeps you up at night, you don't care what the challenges are gonna be because you're obsessed with solving that problem.
1:03:10
unknown: Yeah.
1:03:10
SPEAKER_01: And then imagine a peptide you inject in your body that you're talking about.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it looks crazy.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was like, my family thought I was.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_01: One of the pioneers.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_01: And you're like, what is she doing?
1:03:19
SPEAKER_01: But you you almost have to be a little crazily obsessed.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_01: For sure.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_01: And I think for me, it's like, I yeah, and I still am.
1:03:26
SPEAKER_01: And so that does make it really easy.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_01: I think an important piece to me, and I think one of the reasons why loot works so well in the beginning, too, is like I just showed up exactly who I was.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_01: And they were just like, no, and Lori's a lot like that way.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_01: And I'm and I also I'm I don't ever want anyone to think that I have it figured out or that I'm perfect.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_01: Or I mean, I show up online sometimes and I look like a crazy person.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_01: I've got my eye mask patches on, and but that's just how I, you know, I started.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_01: And I think back to when I was saying I was having a little of the identity crisis, which I'm saying this out loud because since I got my Instagram back today, part of me getting back online is like the fun got taken out when I got so censored and I didn't know what to say because I couldn't really be me.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_01: And so I've made the vow to go on and just be me.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_01: And whatever that looks like within the world that I have to play, like if it doesn't feel right, then I'm just not gonna do it.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_01: But like I'm gonna go on and really appreciate that I can have a community again and share and talk because I missed it and see my friends and my family and and and whatnot.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_01: But I've got to figure out within that, like, how do I stay true to me and just really be my authentic self?
1:04:28
SPEAKER_00: And when that happens, that's when you're gonna be more successful because you're so damn relatable in that situation.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_00: People are tired of polished, people don't want to learn from polished, people don't want to learn from someone who hasn't been in their shoes.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_00: They want relatable, and that's when that trust factor accelerates.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_00: When they are like, oh, she's just like me, or oh, she's had a similar struggle, or oh, she has these insecurities that she's willing to talk about.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_00: That's what makes it easier to call them in and for them to say, Oh, that's my girl.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's my message.
1:04:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that you see this all the time.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_00: The the people that have the largest audiences, et cetera, if you really analyze what they're doing, they're talking about the most relatable things.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_00: And long, long ago they dropped kind of the image and they're not afraid to put themselves out there.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then you're gonna have to be.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_01: And then I also think like having people around you who really support you and believe in you makes it that much easier to kind of to go and do.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_01: But it's wild.
1:05:23
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's a it's a I can't believe like Lori's like, I've been doing it for 10 years, or like her podcast.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh my gosh.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I can't mean my podcast is like a little over a year old, and I can't imagine like being a pioneer in something that's like now like changed the world.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_00: Related to what we're talking about.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_00: Did she ever tell you the bathrobe story?
1:05:39
SPEAKER_01: No.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_00: So back in Facebook Live days, back when that was a thing.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_00: So this is probably 2015, 2016, almost 10 years ago.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_00: She was having trouble showing up.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_00: And so lives were the thing.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_00: You could do Facebook Live, you could get tons of downloads, like that was the place to do it.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but people were afraid to show up.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_00: Up live because something could go wrong.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't recorded.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_00: You couldn't take multiple takes.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_00: You had to get on there and be yours.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_00: You had to be yourself.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_00: And you're going to be very exposed.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_00: And this was new.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_00: You know, now it's pretty commonplace to go live.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_00: Back then it was pretty new.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_00: So she was having a lot of hesitancy around doing it.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_00: And she said, I'm never going to break myself up with this hesitancy unless I go absolutely unhinged and wild.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_00: So she did she made a commitment that she was going to grab her coffee first thing in the morning.
1:06:27
SPEAKER_00: And while she's in her bathrobe, and before she puts any makeup on, she was just going to sit down with that coffee, go live and see what comes out of her mouth.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_00: And so she called them bath bathrobe lives.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_00: And it was building, it was, they took off.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_00: It was building that habit of in the moment where I feel least worthy to go be seen, I'm going to go build the muscle out of being seen in that type of moment.
1:06:54
SPEAKER_00: And that makes all the other fears go away.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_01: I believe that.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_01: True.
1:06:57
SPEAKER_01: And I think it's really important.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_01: I think like that's why having these, you know, podcasts where you can talk about everything.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_01: Like if you can't do it on social media, we're going to do it, right?
1:07:04
SPEAKER_01: Tell your story.
1:07:05
SPEAKER_01: Like talk about, you know, things that you've chosen to do as a human, either physically to yourself or like the peptide.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_01: Like it's if we if we can help people, I feel like for me, like that's when I get the most when I look at my schedule and I have like four coaching calls.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yes, because I feel so happy.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so Caesar's told me five minutes.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna give you a rapid fire.
1:07:23
SPEAKER_01: You probably haven't heard ours.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so Chris can go back and talk to your 20-year-old self.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_01: What would you say?
1:07:28
SPEAKER_00: Oh I mean, listen, financially, which has nothing to do with what we talked about, I say take advantage of the power of compounding interest.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_00: What a fool I was to spend all that money and not let it compound.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_00: But aside from that, more related to the podcast, I'd say this.
1:07:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_00: Remember when I told you about Lori and I, we have a policy to try everything on for size?
1:07:45
SPEAKER_00: I was the most closed off.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_00: I was the most worried about how I looked.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_00: I was the most insecure.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_00: Everything has to be perfect, or I'm not moving forward on it.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_00: Person you have ever met.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't imagine.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
1:07:57
SPEAKER_00: The opposite of maybe, you know, how you know me now.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_00: I would go back to that person and I'd say, listen, nothing matters.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_00: You gotta trust me.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_00: You can screw up, you can do something catastrophic, you can look stupid, and it's still gonna turn out okay.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_00: So just screw it, go for it, let down the shields of perfection.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're missing out on opportunity.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_01: Do you think the only way you know that now is just life?
1:08:24
SPEAKER_00: Just life.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_00: People are gonna hear me say that right now.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_00: And they can understand the words coming out of my mouth, but they can't internalize it.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_00: Some lessons have to be earned, not learned.
1:08:35
SPEAKER_01: Very much.
1:08:37
SPEAKER_01: Hear that, guys?
1:08:38
SPEAKER_01: Very much.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's a the benefits of getting old.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna actually put it's harder.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_01: What's a daily non-negotiable for you?
1:08:47
SPEAKER_00: Exercise, movement.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_00: I have to, no matter what.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_00: Dog walks with Lori, going to the gym, playing pickleball.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_00: I am not happy unless I'm moving my body uh as a priority for that day.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_01: I think it's like 95% of my guests say the same thing.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's a clue.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_01: I think they call that a clue.
1:09:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, isn't that interesting?
1:09:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so like what's a and this is everyone kind of interprets this differently, but like what's a daily, you know, something that you have that's like a guilty, you know, pleasure that's not so guilty.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_00: Ice cream bars.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_00: So there's a screen.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, at your house, you guys have a particular brand called Yasso, Y-A-S-S-O, I think.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, not giving them a shout-out, but they are the greatest things on the planet.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_00: 100 calories, the best tasting thing on a planet.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_00: I yeah, that's what I'm saying.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_01: Love.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_01: That's that's such a good one.
1:09:32
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_01: Okay, this is gonna be a hard one for you.
1:09:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay, you had to pick one peptide.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_01: I know, I know.
1:09:39
SPEAKER_00: I think I would say BPC.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_00: The way that it goes after inflammation.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, inflammation not only causing things physically, but mentally, I think that probably has had the greatest impact on me uh out of all of them.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_01: Love.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_01: Me too.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_01: Body protective compound, it's a good one.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_00: That's that's the one you choose?
1:10:04
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_00: Oh, awesome.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_01: What's my first one?
1:10:06
SPEAKER_01: It's like your baby.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_01: My first one I ever did.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_01: It's just, and it does so many things, I think, at the end of the day.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's hard.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_01: I mean, a GLP is like, I mean, you're like their neck and neck.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_01: But I do feel like as you get older, the aches and pains and like the inflammation is really what gets you sick.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_01: So if you have to kind of delineate down to like where, I think, I think exactly there.
1:10:25
SPEAKER_00: I think inflammation is the root cause of probably most problems.
1:10:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, including the brain.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_01: All right, last one, like where do you see yourself in 20 years or hope to see yourself?
1:10:33
SPEAKER_00: What a great question.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_00: Slowing down but still full of purpose.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_00: In 20 years, I'll be coming up on 70.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_00: That's wild to say.
1:10:44
SPEAKER_00: And my dad passed away at 72.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_00: My dad was the epitome of how you wanted to be retired.
1:10:51
SPEAKER_00: He was fit, he was happy, he was full of purpose.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_00: Even though he was retired, he was still chairman of the board for the Wisconsin Maritime Museum.
1:10:59
SPEAKER_00: He wanted to be needed, he wanted to be involved, he wanted to still contribute.
1:11:04
SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, the way that this man would wake up and have a healthy morning routine and work out and be full of energy and then go still work, even though he's retired, being full of purpose and prioritize his family was a great model for me to see.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_00: And 20 years from now, that's exactly the way that I'd like to be living life.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_01: I wish you are.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm so happy you're here.
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