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- Lucas: So let's talk about the board that had to answer for the third place. I'm talking about Starbucks, and a specific moment in 2018 that forced its board to decide what the company actually stands for. Luna: The Philadelphia incident. Two men waiting for a friend, asked to leave, arrested — caught on video, viewed millions of times. Lucas: Exactly. And suddenly the core promise of Starbucks — the third place between home and work where anyone belongs — collided with a very public reality check. The board had to step in, not just the CEO. Luna: Because this wasn't just an operational screw-up. It was a brand identity crisis. The board owns the brand. Lucas: Right. Howard Schultz was executive chairman at the time, Kevin Johnson was CEO. And the board's first move was to authorize a company-wide shutdown — eight thousand stores, for an afternoon, for anti-bias training. Luna: That's a huge financial hit. I mean, you're talking tens of millions in lost revenue, plus the cost of training materials, staff hours. Did the board hesitate? Lucas: From everything that's been reported, it was surprisingly fast. The incident happened on April 12, 2018. By April 17, Schultz and Johnson had met with the two men and apologized publicly. The store closures were announced on April 17, executed on May 29. Luna: Six weeks from incident to shutdown. That's board-level speed. But let me push back — was the training actually effective? Or was this a performative move? Lucas: That's the question that lingers. The board backed a one-time training session. Critics said it was a band-aid. And subsequent studies — including one from Washington State University in 2021 — found that the training didn't significantly change long-term behavior in stores. Luna: So the board chose action over depth. Was there a better option? Lucas: Some argued the board should have pushed for structural changes — like revising the policy that allowed managers to call police without higher approval. Instead, Starbucks changed its policy quietly later, but the big public move was the training. Luna: But the board also had to think about shareholders. If they overcorrect, they risk alienating customers or inviting more scrutiny. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the tension the board navigates. In 2018, Starbucks stock dropped about 9 percent between the incident and the store closures, but recovered within two months. The board's bet was that a decisive, visible move would contain the damage. Luna: And it worked in the short term. But the deeper issue — the 'third place' promise — had already been eroding for years. Lucas: That's the part I find fascinating. The board was essentially defending a concept that had been under pressure from the company's own growth. Starbucks went from 6,000 stores in 2002 to over 28,000 by 2018. More stores, more standardization, less local autonomy. Luna: So the board had to decide: do we protect the third place as an ideal, or do we accept that the third place is a marketing slogan now? Lucas: Right. And I think the board chose to protect the ideal publicly, even if the reality was more complicated. That's not unusual in corporate governance — sometimes the board's job is to reaffirm the narrative, even when operations are messy. Luna: But there's a risk: if the board overpromises and underdelivers, the next crisis is worse. Lucas: Which brings us to 2020 and the renewed focus on racial equity. Starbucks committed to 10,000 hires from underserved communities by 2025, and tied executive compensation to diversity goals. The board was involved in setting those metrics. Luna: So the 2018 crisis forced the board to evolve from reactive crisis management to proactive governance on social issues. Lucas: That's one way to frame it. Another is that the board learned that the third place isn't just a physical space — it's a trust asset. And trust assets are fragile. Luna: Let's talk about the board composition. Did the 2018 board have the right people to handle this? Lucas: At the time, the board had 11 members. Only two were people of color. One of them was Mellody Hobson, who's now chair. She was a powerful voice — she'd been on the board since 2005 and understood both finance and brand. Luna: So Hobson's presence mattered. But after the incident, the board added more diverse perspectives. By 2020, three of the four new directors were women or people of color. Lucas: That's a direct board-level response to a reputational crisis. They looked at themselves and said, 'We need different lenses in this room.' Luna: But let's be real — was that driven by genuine reflection or external pressure? Shareholder proposals, activist investors? Lucas: Probably a mix. But the board did something many don't: they changed their own composition in response to a failure. That's rare. Luna: It's also worth noting that Starbucks board has been relatively stable. Howard Schultz stepped down as chairman in 2018, then returned as interim CEO in 2022. That kind of founder involvement complicates board dynamics. Lucas: Definitely. Schultz has this outsized influence — he was the visionary, the guy who built the third place concept. When he's in the room, it's hard for the board to challenge that narrative. Luna: So the board's job in 2018 wasn't just managing a crisis. It was also managing the founder's shadow. Lucas: And that's a theme that runs through so many board stories — how to honor the founder's vision while also holding the company accountable to it. Luna: Interesting. And on that note — these conversations are exactly the kind of deep dives we try to bring you every week. A couple of dollars a month is genuinely what keeps these going — buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, if you've gotten something out of them. Lucas: Yeah, it's a small gesture that makes a real difference. Thanks to everyone who already supports the show. Luna: So back to the board — what's the lasting lesson from Starbucks's third place crisis? Lucas: I think it's that a board must be willing to put the company's core promise to a stress test. If the third place can be violated in one store, the board has to ask: is the promise real? And if it is, the board has to back the response with real resources, not just statements. Luna: And be willing to look inward — at their own composition, their own blind spots. Lucas: Exactly. The Philadelphia incident was a test. The board passed the immediate test, but the ongoing work of building a genuinely inclusive third place — that's still in progress. Luna: And that's the kind of boardroom conversation that never really ends.