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Are We Raising Champions or Role Models? | Off the Bench London S2 E5 · Off the Bench - London

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Yo. What's going on? We're here on the holiday.
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Happy Thanksgiving. Yo, happy Thanksgiving, yo.
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Right? I know. If you want to say that, I know.
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Is this Thanksgiving the right one, or is it
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the one in November the right one? Yes. Yes.
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We had this conversation last year, and the American
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one is silly. I mean, it's it's great for football.
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But like this is our holiday. This is yeah, like
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it's pagans first. Yeah Yeah, is that how it
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works? I really have not done zero research No,
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this Thanksgiving when you think about it's like
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the harvest, right? For us is like grabbing everything
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from your garden because in about a week It's
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about to you know, freeze over or frost over
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and so forth. And then next thing, you know You
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have no garden so like Our Thanksgiving is like
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the harvest. Yeah, I mean like you can't get
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good out of November the same. It's not like
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you can't go to like yeah What I mean is you
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can't go to Americans unless they bombing It's
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it's from California and like all those regions
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where it's still warm. Yeah, so Let's say pommage.
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Yeah. Hey, if you watch the news, you know. I
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don't want to watch the news anymore. It's a
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dark place. It's a dark place. Yeah. If anyone
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wants to watch the news, just watch us. Well,
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it's almost like watching the news and, like,
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social media. It can be a dark place. And then
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that's where we come in. Sometimes, yeah. And
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social media on YouTube, TikTok. Spotify. Yeah,
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I'm plugging. I'm plugging. Yeah, we're in everything.
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But honestly, sometimes I feel like the onion,
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you're like, maybe that's the real one. Yeah.
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It's getting that way. It's kind of scary. OK.
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I'm Malcolm the Milkman. Scott the Visionary
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Hone. And this is week five. Off the bench. Yo,
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what's up? What's up? All right. So this is weird.
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You're too close to me right now. I know. I know.
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But I'm right under the spotlight. And I don't
2:19
know if you can tell right now, I got the new
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Off the Bench merch. For sure. Yeah, I got my
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number on the back, my number and name on the
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back. I'll get on mine. Yeah, you gotta get it
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on. You know what I mean? I'm a businessman.
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I'm doing too many things. Yeah. The only thing
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I'm worried about right now is I'm right under
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the lights, and I'm wearing way too much light
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-colored things. But you're good. You're good.
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I feel like I'm glowing. I'm wearing black with
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a little bit of gray. You're wearing white. But
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we have an empty spot available right now. We
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do. And we can introduce this individual, but
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we gotta do a little bit of an intro. You know
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what I mean? We gotta talk about this individual
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in high regards. Because he kind of fits what
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this episode is about. And we're not trying to
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do any spoilers or work, but I think today -
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We'll get into why you're mad about things later.
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I am pissed off about something that's been going
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around, and I needed assistance from another
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individual to add onto this podcast. for this
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episode just to relate what I mean. And what
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I'm talking about mostly is about role models
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and how some role models will always live in
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your head. And when something happens out of
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control, kind of makes you cringe. And I'm not
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talking about the role model itself, but we'll
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get into that. And I'm gonna make you mad just
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like you made me mad. Please do. I'm looking
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forward to it. Please do. Looking forward to
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it. But being said. Yeah, without further ado.
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Let's bring on our guests. The legend from, I'll
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see this built. I'll see this Molina. Waddup,
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waddup, waddup, waddup. There he is. Waddup,
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waddup. How you doing? How you doing? Man, I'm
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fantastic. How you guys doing? Good, man. Good.
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Welcome to the show. Thank you, man. Thanks for
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having me, man. Is this your first podcast ever?
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First, yo. First pause cat ever, bro. Yo, so
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we're taking that card away from you. Oh. You
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go one, you go two. There it is. Perfect. Perfect.
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Let me give you a hug. Okay. Well, congratulations.
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We can't introduce you, but who are you? Well,
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my name is I'll see this Molina or I'll see this
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build that some people know me. I'm a boxing
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coach, soccer coach. I am just a martial arts
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practitioner. I love. boxing, kickboxing, jujitsu.
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Like I can go on and on, man. But those are my
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that's what people know me for. Now you're coaching.
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What got you into like the coaching aspect of
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it? Well, what got you into it to begin with?
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What got me into it? Injuries. So it's so it
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was kind of like I got injured for almost a year.
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I was not fighting. I wasn't able to. to train
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the way I wanted to train. So I asked Jay, my
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head, shout out to Jay from MBT, my head coach,
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my guy, right? So I asked him, I'm like, hey,
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I can't box right now, but I would love to coach.
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I would love to do something still in that vicinity,
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right? So he ended up helping me get my level
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one license as it was like, I had to drive an
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hour, like St. Catharines, I think it was. Yeah.
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Two days, Saturday and Sunday, man. just to take
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a two day course, man. So I had to do that. Jay
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helped me out, you know, but but after that,
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everything dominoes just kind of fell into pieces,
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like into into place. Our coach Yuli ended up
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coming over to our gym and she had some kids
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that she helps train. And she asked me if I wanted
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to help coach, like help her coach and teach
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classes. Right. Yes. Well, especially with the
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kids like that's a handful. Exactly, right? It's
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not just one or two, man. There's about 15 or
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20 of these little guys running around. More
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of them in the ring. If they understood that
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they could take over the gym, we'd all be screwed.
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I still remember seeing all of those kids in
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the ring with you. I'm like, I kind of want to
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see how many it would take to take them down.
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100 kids versus us. Yeah, yeah, like, we can
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make that happen. Bro, finally a stall, just
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one by one. Bah! Bah! This is MPG. Yeah, right,
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kickboxing. Yeah, yeah. Hey, man, I'm not afraid
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to use hands either. No, well, like, it's funny,
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because, like, the only reason why I know this
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individual is in, like, Rest In Peace's ASAP.
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Buddy of ours. I can't I just came back from
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Alberta and I was trying to look for like a sports
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team to play on like soccer and BMO and You started
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reaching out to people who knew ASA. Yeah. It
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was like hey, I'm doing a tribute year for ASA
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We're doing England jerseys with his name on
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our back. My dad came out to basically every
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single day and watched us play in honor of his
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son So like why are you taking those like initiatives
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then? I think you did have a lot of the fundamentals
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for being a good coach, because you were able
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to relate and be like, I can take myself out
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of the picture and build something. And now seeing
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what you're doing with those seat is built. Especially
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when every time I see you on Instagram, it's
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like you in those car tops. I was like, OK, OK.
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He's taking everything he's learned and he's
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putting on a platform for people to relate to.
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Yeah, 100%, man. Honestly, I'll be honest. It
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all started. for a way to motivate myself because
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I'm on this weight loss journey. You know, like
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just trying to be healthier for my kids and stuff
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like that. So wasn't that how you found boxing
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to begin with? It is actually. Yeah. Yeah. Life
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happens. We stay learning, man. So like I picked
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up boxing. I did work like I did lose a ton of
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weight. And then, you know, you hit a plateau.
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Right. Yeah. And I basically just decided, man,
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I need to just keep motivating myself. Keep keep
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seeing, you know. put out in the world what I
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want to see, right? So that being said, are those
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videos more for you, but you're sharing it to
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the world? Yeah. Okay. It's a piece of me, like
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what's inside my mind, right? What's inside my
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brain? So it's helped to help me motivate myself,
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but I've seen like... I've seen the trajectory
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of people messaging me and telling me, hey, man,
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like, really good work. This is, you know, it's
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helping me, you know, get up in the morning or
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go to the gym in the afternoon. So I can see
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the progression of it where people are taking
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a liking to it. Well, yeah, it's such a strong
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message when it's just like, just do it, go.
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Yeah. You got to do it. Sometimes you just got,
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that's how this podcast started. Yeah. Like,
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I've always said, I kind of want to do a podcast.
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And then an opportunity came and I was like,
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all right, I'm doing this. And then I called
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two people. He said yes. The other person was
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like, sorry. The other person just said yes.
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So and then look, we're season two now. Yeah,
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such is life. We have our own merch, chatting,
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having people like you on the episode, real people.
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It's cool. And do we talk about what happened
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a couple of weekends ago, too, or what? We can
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talk about it. I remember last episode. Yo, rising
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stars. Rising stars, man. I'll say this is a
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lot of the reason why we got involved with, well,
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pretty much the entire reason. Because we tried
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to do it on our own and they were like, nah,
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nah, we got a guy doing it. And then he's like,
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yeah, what happened with that? They called you
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and you're just like. I guess I got to do this.
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Who do I call? Well, I was coaching that day,
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too, right? So I had to disappear a couple of
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times. I had a couple of fighters that day. But
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that's an opportunity that I did not want to
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miss. And it's something that, like, you and
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I have had conversations about, you know, podcasts
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and, you know, being on internet, on social media,
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things like that. So I figured, man, this would
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be right down your alley, man. And you guys,
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again. Probably one of the best podcasts ever,
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so. Best at all. No, man. Best podcasts around.
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So I figured, why not have the best come to one
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of the best shows, right? What I'm going to say,
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though, is I love what you said earlier. You
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were talking about putting that positivity in
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the internet and so forth. Right now has been
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a very difficult time for me. Yeah. Because right
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now, AR has been taking over. And there's been
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a video that's been going on that's been frustrating
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to Ella every time I go on social media. And
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I don't go on social media that often, but right
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now what's going on is they're taking real situations
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and putting Uncle Phil and making soccer moves
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and so forth. And it's been frustrating me because
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the man died. And it's like, let the man rest.
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Right. Yeah, it's like sacrilegious to you. It's
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like the man can't even rest and y 'all are like
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kind of like trying to make money off of his
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likeness. Yeah. And it's like for me, our view
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is the family main piece that he's gone and passes
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away. If they go on social media now, now the
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family is going to see him and have to go through
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that grieving process again because people are
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now taking his likeness. It's almost similar
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to the Tupac hologram, but they ask for permission.
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Yeah, yeah. So I get it from that perspective,
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but at the same time, yes, they could do the
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same thing and have him doing horrible things.
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You're not wrong. But they're just kind of keeping
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his spirit alive. Because if you see Uncle Phil
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in something, It brings back all of those positive
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memories of it. Regardless of what he's doing
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in the current video, you're like, oh, I remember
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Uncle Phil, the role model. Yeah. For sure, for
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sure. But I think it's kind of bringing, like,
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it's breathing a second life into it, right?
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Yeah. So, like, kids that, for example, my young
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children, they're going to see video exactly.
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They're going to be like, who is this man? And
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then I get to be like, yo, that's America's favorite
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dad right there. Yeah, like, oh, watch all these
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clips. Learn this, watch the show. But here's
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the other thing about it. It's like, and this
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is how I'm also viewing it is, all right, you're
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not wrong about, you're not wrong about that
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concept about, you know, bringing new life into
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Uncle Phil. The other problem that I have is
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right now we live in a society where millennials
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and Gen X kind of know what's going on, but our
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parents don't know. So when they see that video,
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they think that was actually Uncle Phil. Some
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of these young kids are going to be like, oh,
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Uncle Four, I heard you talk about him. He made
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a great soccer move. And he did it all playing
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close. And it's like, that's not real. That's
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complicated. So it also crosses that line where
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it's just like, what's real and what's not real.
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And a lot of our older parents don't know now
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what's actually real and what's not. And we have
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to tell them, oh, that's an AI video. That's
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poor. Like, you know how they say, don't believe
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everything you see on TV. Don't believe every
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video that you see because it may not actually
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be a real video. Right. I think to an extent,
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like, if you are watching that video and seeing
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Uncle Phil dressed in his regular Uncle Phil
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attire, rainbowing it over three defenders, like,
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and scoring, it's not the same, like, obviously
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that's not real. But also at the same time I
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get what you're saying how some people are very
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easy to trick. There's a lot of people that Get
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catfished online, but I don't know. I think it's
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hilarious I think it's kind of funny and it's
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gonna get all these younger kids going Should
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I watch the show should I go back and watch this?
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Yeah, because they don't make shows like they
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used to I agree with that man because like honestly
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like if If grandma starts believing that's Uncle
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Phil, we got to take grandma off the internet.
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Grandma needs to go to the mall. We got to disconnect
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the internet from grandma. Yeah. The one thing
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I was saying, I was talking to him all week about,
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I want this episode to be about role models.
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I think the reason why it also has a huge impact
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is because growing up in sports and so forth,
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I didn't have role models that represented who
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I was or my story. The reason why I coach football
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now and got that opportunity and said yes is
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because when I was playing football, there was
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no other black coach. When you're coaching now
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at the gym, you have an influx of individuals
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who are speaking Spanish. You have a culture
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through which they feel at home. So now, instead
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of just going to a regular gym where someone's
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just telling them, hey, do this, do this, you
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can tell them in their native language that,
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oh, if you do it like this, and they can relate
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and do what you're saying because you're relating
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to them on that level. There was times where
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I was like... Man, I'm trying to eavesdrop, but
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I'm just speaking Spanish. Like, I think he said,
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hit him. You know what I mean? I think party
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means I get triggered, because I look at it and
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just, that was a role model, because my parents
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immigrated from here, from England, when they
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were originally from Trinidad and Grenada. So
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for them to come here, live in London, and like,
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I have both. friends of the family. But I didn't
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really have a lot of people who had Caribbean
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culture that I could hang out with. So then I
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would look to regular black people, and then
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regular black people would realize, oh, you're
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Caribbean, you're too much of a hustler. Well,
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yes, that's true. That is true. I never put that
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together. I would work two to three jobs. The
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main joke is like, oh, you're Trini. Three, four,
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five, six jobs. You know what I mean? You're
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always working. Three to four usually, right?
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Well, you knew me when I was working boots. I'd
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work at the tap house. I'd work a moving job.
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Yeah, I never really thought about it. I worked
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a lot of jobs and still was able to go to Marley
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Booms and drink with y 'all. Yeah. That's crazy.
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That's the real moral of the story. Still made
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it up. Always make time for the things that are
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important. Yes, yes. So for me, the times that
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I had to be at home with my family, I'd be watching
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Freshman's of Bel Air because I felt like I lived
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in that world. I lived on a street called King
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Street. So it was like all those little things.
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And that's where Philadelphia always has that
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love. I have that love for Philadelphia. It's
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part of Will Smith and Uncle Phil. So seeing
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that AI video, it's great, but it's just like
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everything that I was trying to relate in this
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world, you're bringing it back. I was like, I've
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viewed Dawn and I'm trying to bring it to the
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next generation. And that's how I feel. It's
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tough. I think you just need to accept, just
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realize it is what it is. The internet works
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in mysterious ways. It's like, you never know
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what's gonna become a meme or how long it's gonna
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last. Enjoy the nostalgia that it brings you
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when you see it. It's not gonna be around forever.
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I saw the same guy doing ones with the... No,
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Ernest. You know, like, Ernest goes to, does
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whatever. Yeah, they had him, like, hitting home
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runs, and... There was one with, um... De Chappelle's,
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uh... It is kind of cool. For two of the people
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who are living. Because they can also appreciate
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it. Yeah. I don't want to see one with Tupac.
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Oh, I mean... I think the most important part
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about doing it like this is... They have to do
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it in a way that makes it obvious that it's like,
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this is that character, not this is that person.
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If it's like, unless you really know, it's that
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guy using Dave Chappelle's character or Uncle
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Phil or Ernest. Those are specific characters
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that people recognize. And that's why they're
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doing it with those. They're not using his likeness.
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Otherwise, people would just be like, oh, he's
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just some random guy. It's just, it's always
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frustrating. Yeah, no, I get that. You know what
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I mean? But also leads to a very negative tangent,
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because we're talking about one specific video
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on social media. Oh, yeah. What's gets you...
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What stops to go into the other genre of videos
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that are not censored to the regular public,
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and then they get a fake view on things? Yeah.
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That can just sensitize a lot of kids, a lot
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of males, especially when we're going through
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a state where a lot of males are having a hard
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time understanding the importance of being a
19:18
gentleman. Well, this is why people need role
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models. This is why it's so important that guys
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like both of you get out and start being role
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models in the community, whether it's in soccer,
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boxing, football, whatever, podcasts, doing clips.
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Putting out positive things because there's so
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many horrible role models out there for kids
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Oh, yeah, like all the I don't even want to really
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say his name, but like all the Andrew Tate shenanigans
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Yeah, when all the kids started flocking towards
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that a red pill mine Yeah, you start getting
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all that and like it's such so toxic that I'm
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not saying we'd enough positive role models out
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there to like flood it but you need more positive
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people out there. 100 % man, I totally agree.
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For sure, for sure. And like, you get a lot of
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those people that start trying to be role models
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for the wrong reasons, because they're doing
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it because, hey, I can get these kids to spend
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mommy and daddy's money on whatever, on some
20:26
coin, some video game stuff, whatever. If they
20:31
can do that, they're just taking advantage of
20:33
these kids. So you need all these more role models
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out there that are just like, no, I'm just doing
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this to be a good person. I'm giving up my time
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so these kids can have a better future than I
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had. or have a better role model system than
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I have. Oh, 100 % man. Right now, I don't want
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to even say anybody's name because I don't want
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to give them the platform for it, but people
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are already getting these kids addicted to gambling
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and placing bets, but it's kind of like playing
21:05
casinos and ripping cards, right? It builds that
21:11
dopamine and kids love it and they're like, I
21:12
need more cards, I need more cards. They're already
21:14
getting that instilled into them and it's something
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that... I try to stay away from, especially with
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my kids, because it's not a good habit to get
21:23
into. And somebody needs to help them and talk
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to them, right? So we're talking about, like,
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Pokemon cards, right? Yeah. So I know when we
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were growing up, Pokemon cards, it was like that
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dopamine when you're a bunch of your friends.
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And it wasn't about getting that hate. It was
21:36
getting that hologram and then battling with
21:39
your friends. And now it's switched from battling
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to ripping, collecting, and then treating it
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like an invention. Right. and I'm trying to get
21:47
that next hit. Now that I've dabbled back in
21:52
a little bit, but I can't stay in because the
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price keeps going up and up and up because everyone's
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just chasing those hits. That's one thing that
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I found hilarious growing up. Most people, they're
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in a different situation. You're in a different
22:10
situation. Shout out to my dad. Most kids, when
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they were growing up, they saw Pokemon cards
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and would start collecting them, whatever. My
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dad, he's a big collector, collects lots of different
22:23
things, loves gaming, and understands the value
22:28
of collectibles. So naturally, instead of what
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other parents would do, buy their kids a handful
22:36
of packs every once in a while, toss them in
22:39
the packs, the kids rip them open, do what they
22:41
want with them, they end up in... bike tires
22:44
or just getting wet, they're not protected, they're
22:48
taking them to school, getting them lost and
22:50
stolen. My dad was at the local hobby shop contacting,
22:56
who makes Pokemon cards? Game Freak. Game Freak.
23:01
I forget what company it is, but whoever organizes
23:05
all of that, he's contacted them and now he's
23:08
the local gym leader. So kids can go into the
23:12
hobby shop and he's organizing Pokemon tournaments
23:16
where kids can win all these like the promo cards
23:20
and prizes and all this and My dad's collecting
23:23
right along with us. So he's like he's got the
23:26
like Everything, you know, he knows all about
23:29
it. I So that kind of got myself and my brother
23:34
into it more and cuz you're like, oh, this is
23:36
really fun cuz like it's cool when you have someone
23:39
that you look up to that is like, oh, I'll do
23:42
this alongside you. Like that's cool. But the
23:47
funniest part is growing up, this is a very simple
23:50
question. Everyone knows the answer to it. What
23:52
was the rarest card? The Charizard, right? Exactly.
23:56
So as a father, when you open up a pack of cards
24:02
and you open it up and you see you have a Charizard
24:06
card and you have two sons, what do you do with
24:08
it? You keep it. You keep it. You keep it. Yeah.
24:11
Yeah. And then what happens when you open up
24:13
a second pack and now you have two Charizard
24:16
and you have two Suns? You keep it. You keep
24:19
both of them. And because he kept all of it,
24:22
everything's all in sleeves, like the collection
24:25
of cards that they still have is extensive. Yeah.
24:30
And it's all the older ones and like it's worth
24:32
a significant amount of money now, I would imagine.
24:34
Once we go, once you, if you were to go through
24:37
it and. like, input it all and find it's worth
24:40
a significant amount. And it's all because he
24:43
understood the value. He was like, okay, well,
24:46
if we're gonna do this, we're gonna do it right.
24:49
Instead of just like, yeah, yeah, kids, just
24:51
go do whatever you want. Here's a pack, go away.
24:53
He's like, no, you're in, I'm in. Because he
24:57
understood that. He was a coach of mine growing
24:59
up and having that role model that was like...
25:03
Hey, when you're into something, I'll also get
25:06
into it because I want to help you and work with
25:09
you. It was super important. It's hilarious when
25:12
you're like, most parents are like that. I'm
25:14
like, no, no, we've got it all. But see, that's
25:18
a safe environment, though, man. That's a safe
25:20
environment. Yeah, 100%. But that's a great role
25:22
model. Yeah. That's a great role model who understands
25:24
your interests and is like, well, if you're interested
25:28
in this, you're going to do it properly. Exactly.
25:29
You're going to enjoy it. I'm going to protect
25:31
the investment because I'm spending my money.
25:33
I'm making sure you enjoy it. That's the best
25:37
part, man. That's awesome. Yeah, exactly. You
25:40
get to spend time with you. I mean, sure, my
25:42
mom hates that he collects everything. But you
25:45
know what? Shout out to my dad. Yeah, shout out.
25:48
As a coach, how do you limit? I'm trying to find
25:53
the right way to word this, but it's like. How
25:56
are you taking your coaching ability to be great
25:59
role models for the kids slash people that are
26:02
our age as well who are trying to box? Like,
26:06
how are you using your skills to be a role model
26:08
but not just a coach? So that's a really good
26:11
question, actually. Coaching is coaching. I can
26:13
tell you two in one, two. But like, how are you
26:15
trying to instill that role model? You were talking
26:17
about your videos earlier. But like, that was
26:19
for you. Yeah. What are you trying to do for
26:21
other people that instills the role model athletic
26:24
coaching? So I really try, like I try my best
26:27
to kind of like talk to them, see how their day
26:31
is going, like how was school, just kind of be
26:33
their friend, right? Like I am their coach. When
26:35
it's time to train, it's time to train. No two
26:38
ways about it. But I do try, like at the end
26:40
of training, I'm like, hey, how was your day?
26:42
Like, what have you been up to? Like, how's your
26:44
week been? Because who knows, you know, if they're
26:47
like, I'm not saying they have bad parents, but
26:49
who knows if their parents even talk to them
26:50
that way, right? So my whole thing is to just
26:53
try to be friendly with them, see how their day
26:56
is going, and just basically give them a safe
27:01
space, right? I get you, I get you. Well, not
27:03
everybody has that safe space. You're going to
27:05
be, because you're seeing them at their highest
27:08
and their lowest in sports, they're going to
27:11
feel more comfortable being around you and letting
27:14
out what's on their mind. Yeah, because right
27:16
now at the gym, there's a couple, there's a couple
27:18
of kids there that in a friendly banter way will...
27:21
we'll talk to each other and then they'll make
27:23
fun of me and then I'll make fun of them. Just
27:25
going back and forth, right? Just being really
27:28
friendly with them. Sometimes they just need
27:32
that, right? They just need to let loose and
27:34
understand that you were just joking so nothing's
27:36
ever personal, right? I got you, I got you. I
27:41
mean, there's a lot of kids. So we talk, I'm
27:43
going to make you both mad real quick. So we've
27:47
been talking about role models. This just brings
27:51
back the age -old debate Who's the goat? Oh my
27:56
god. Oh my god. Here we go again. Okay Yeah,
28:14
I love Ted Lasso. Excellent role model. Excellent
28:16
role model. Not with the fourth season, no. You
28:19
will be off the show when we talk about it. But
28:22
you got Michael Jordan. Obviously amazing. Won
28:27
all these rings, won all these titles, has won
28:32
everything. When you look at it, not the best
28:35
role model. Intensity, yes. If you'll... If you
28:40
want to follow that intensity. It depends on
28:42
what you define as a role model, right? Yeah.
28:44
If you look at Michael Jordan from the concept
28:47
of what he did effectively on the court, he's
28:51
a great role model. If you look at the whole
28:53
perspective of like, why didn't you take a year
28:56
off? I would not call him a good role model.
28:58
Then that's different. He's a good winner. But
29:03
for some people, winning is what they're not
29:06
achieved. Yeah. But he's a... Good role model
29:09
in the aspect of if you follow what he did and
29:14
turn into a competitive psycho in every aspect
29:16
of your life Yes, that's sure however. There's
29:21
better role models out there like the other side
29:25
of the coin Lebron who has never been in never
29:31
been in trouble with the law never had any crazy
29:34
controversies never any sex sex scandals, joined
29:39
the league at 18. Has been with the same person
29:44
the entire time. Has a couple kids, one in the
29:50
NBA now. I'll give you this one. You started
29:53
off in a thing. I'm just gonna start off. He's
29:55
built school. I will say, I'm not a big fan of
30:01
either of those guys. No, I'll be honest, man.
30:06
I'm a big DeMar DeRozan guy. I love DeMar DeRozan.
30:10
I don't care the controversy that happened, you
30:13
know, but to be honest, man, like just because
30:16
Michael Jordan was human doesn't make him not
30:19
a good role model, right? It just shows that
30:22
we all stumble. We all have flaws. Yeah, I just
30:26
think that like people look at him like they
30:29
put people on a pedestal. Yeah, we always do.
30:33
But then you see people that are like, oh, That's
30:36
the guy. I want to do exactly what he's doing.
30:39
Like you see all these YouTubers, the influencers,
30:42
not us, we're great. Yeah, you guys are amazing.
30:45
But doing all these crazy, ridiculous things
30:48
and then the kids are all following them. So
30:51
when you see like Jordan's doing and then there's
30:55
all these gambling things and all this, they
30:57
come out. The kids growing up are like, oh, maybe
31:02
I should start gambling. Maybe we should start
31:04
playing cards at recess. Cause like, here's the
31:06
biggest difference is, what we're talking about
31:09
with MJ, and what we're talking about LeBron,
31:11
LeBron was in the social medias. Yeah. Right?
31:15
MJ didn't have, he had cameras on him, but they
31:20
turned off. Yeah. For LeBron, the cameras are
31:23
always on. So when you look at LeBron, you look
31:26
at a person who's 24 -7, 360 -4, whatever, leap
31:32
year, whatever, he's always on. He doesn't have,
31:35
even on vacation, someone has a camera on. You
31:38
know what I mean? But is that not what you want
31:40
in a role model? You want someone that is the
31:43
role model all the time? What I'm saying is the
31:47
reason why LeBron can also be in that state is
31:49
because he's always on. So then he knows how
31:52
to play the game because he's always on. He doesn't
31:55
get, in his own home, he may be able to be this
31:57
real self, but outside the door, he has to be
32:01
on. Or sometimes if I was MJ and I didn't want
32:06
to sign your autograph, I shouldn't be forced
32:08
to. And there shouldn't be any repercussions
32:11
like, hey, I'm really having a bad day. I'm not
32:13
signing. But for LeBron, he asks you because
32:16
the moment he does it, someone's taking the camera
32:18
and changing it. That's true. Right? So LeBron
32:20
is a great role model for people who are trying
32:23
to be a public figure. But if you're looking
32:26
for a little good role model in the sports world,
32:29
I would say MJ was that guy. because it took
32:33
a system that we still talk about, the Triangle,
32:36
that Kobe's that, like those things where LeBron
32:39
is like, he's like, we call him the GM or LeGM.
32:44
You know what I mean? He knows how to put people
32:45
in the right places to get to his end goal. But,
32:49
and then obviously that one year in Cleveland
32:51
where he had basically a practice squad to win
32:54
an NBA finals with and did it, like those moments
32:57
are great. Those are epic. But when you look
33:00
at MJ and LeBron, it literally comes down to
33:03
the camera. LeBron always had it on him. Yeah.
33:06
Yeah. I've never really thought about that, because,
33:09
yeah, back in the day, everything wasn't as recorded
33:12
as it is now. So you don't have to be on all
33:18
the time. But I don't know. I just think it's
33:21
from that perspective as well. I think he kind
33:25
of got me flipped, because... It is important
33:28
for kids to see. Sometimes people don't make
33:32
the best decision. Obviously you don't want it
33:36
to be like constant. But like there's a reason
33:40
redemption arcs are important. Exactly. Like
33:43
you can fall down and you can get back up again.
33:45
Oh for sure. For sure. Like when you don't win
33:49
in boxing. Yeah. It happens. I hate you right
33:56
now. On that topic, congratulations on winning
34:01
the belt at Ontario, the novice tournament. Congratulations
34:04
on dominating. Yo, were you watching wrestling
34:08
like WWE before? Because you did a stomp and
34:12
you looked down on them. Like you were Oberfemi
34:14
in the ring. You know where I learned that stomp
34:16
though? Yeah. The one thing I'll definitely say
34:19
is during the Rising Stars event, We got to see
34:24
the Neil. And if you're a part of our circle,
34:27
if you're a part of our circle, you know what
34:29
I'm talking about. And that's where I'm going
34:31
to leave it at. I love it. I love it. I love
34:35
it. I'm here for this. I'm always so ashamed.
34:37
I'm always so ashamed. I'm here for that. It's
34:42
been like, even before a podcast, it's always
34:45
been a pleasure to watch you in the ring, see
34:47
what you're doing, even the fact that you would
34:50
lose a face. You still had a smile on your face
34:53
because it was like the concept the concept Just
35:00
triggered you seeing people move stuff The concept
35:05
was like you going to the ring and be like I
35:08
tried I give him my full effort and I'm just
35:11
gonna get back in the ring and do it It's huge
35:13
and I think that alone is more volumes than words.
35:18
Even if you're teaching like You went almost
35:22
six, seven months without a win. I think I went
35:26
almost a year without a win, man. Like, I, it
35:28
was bad. Yeah. And it was like, we're all like,
35:33
he's going to do it. He's going to do it. It
35:36
was like, just short. Then I made the joke. It
35:38
was like, if he loses this fight, I'm going to
35:40
fight him. It's a guaranteed win. I'd watch that.
35:47
It almost happened. It almost happened. I know.
35:49
I know. It was real close. And then you got over
35:52
that hump. And then it was just like, you seem...
35:55
Not only did you seem relieved, but it was like
35:58
you were able to fight naturally. You weren't
36:01
forcing it. Because I think you were chasing
36:03
the win. I think so too. Instead of... And then
36:06
you'd come out and it was like, yeah, it was
36:08
fine. But like, now when I see you fight, it's
36:11
like, you're not chasing... It's like... that
36:13
hump is not on your back anymore. You're like,
36:15
I'm a winner. So what happens in this ring doesn't
36:19
matter. I think that's one of the important things
36:22
that so many people forget that getting to the
36:25
ring can be the hardest part. That is probably
36:28
the hardest walk I've made over and over again.
36:32
But I love what's on the other side of that,
36:35
man. I can't even explain it to people, man.
36:42
What's on the other side of that fear is unbelievable,
36:47
man. Yeah. You know what? Well, hey, if anyone
36:50
wants that feeling, let us know. We can make
36:52
it a reality. We can make it a reality. Because,
36:55
like, realistically, after my first play, I retired.
36:58
I retired. I was like, you know what? I got my
36:59
first win. Living that retirement life. I was
37:01
like, I got my first win. I was like, and it
37:05
was against, like, another podcaster. I was like,
37:07
you know what? We did a job. We put on a great
37:10
show. I was like, I don't need to chase that
37:12
feeling again. And then he gave me a call again.
37:15
And then like, yo, like punch him. We need fighters.
37:20
I'm getting fighters together. And then episode
37:23
two was a banger of a show. Bro, amazing. Banger
37:27
of a show. To the point where episode three was
37:30
a two day event. You know what I mean? But the
37:33
way I view it is, Jay started that program, and
37:36
then you elevated it for episode two to the point
37:39
where the work you did for the second one made
37:43
the third one where it is. Obviously, Jay had
37:45
the vision to do the encore show. Obviously,
37:48
his compassion to make sure that every fighter
37:51
had a fight made it a reality. But the impact
37:55
of the people that you brought on the second
37:56
one made it a reality. Like, bringing me to the
37:59
point where some of my fight to end friends are
38:01
like, I'm getting the ring because you got back
38:03
into it. Because they were like, oh, I'm retired
38:05
too. Yeah, exactly. Then I forced your butt to
38:07
go into it. You know what I mean? Because it
38:09
was like, we have a podcast. You have to go,
38:12
basically. And now he's 1 and 0, man. Yeah, right?
38:16
Undefeated, undisputed right here. No big deal.
38:21
You know what? And I think for me, like, the
38:23
encore show, I appreciate Jay putting in as the
38:27
main event. And I got cocky last year or this
38:30
year. I got really cocky because I thought I
38:32
was putting enough work, but I didn't see my
38:34
opponent put in the work. So I thought it was
38:36
just going to be a wash. Yeah. And then I'm going
38:39
to say, sometimes people can take a punch. And
38:42
my hat goes off to him, because I didn't think
38:46
he would have been able to last that long in
38:47
the ring. And he did. And he tired me out. And
38:52
then all he had to do was, because I remember
38:54
Mark was like, those punches don't hurt. I was
38:56
like, no, I just can't move. It's just crazy
39:08
that like the traction and like the number of
39:11
fighters is like everyone came were like There's
39:14
so many people that want to get in the ring.
39:17
I'm I'm just waiting for this year It's gonna
39:20
be even more man. I like unfortunately I can
39:24
I'm envisioning a lot of people be Like, OK,
39:26
we can't get these guys in. Yeah. I'm thinking,
39:29
like, I'm sure they're going to want to bring
39:32
back some of the OGs that, you know, that were
39:34
there from 2, 3, right? But if I have a feeling
39:38
there's going to be a lot more people signing
39:40
up that are brand new. Yeah. Yeah. Also with
39:42
the fight to end coming back. Yeah. I think the
39:45
people who try to go for fight to end, they couldn't,
39:47
whether they got injured or whatever, know that
39:49
this is happening that they still can use that
39:52
training and it's not going away. Exactly. It's
39:53
still possible for them. It's a second chance.
39:55
Yeah. Which I think Jay starting punch out made
40:00
room for people who weren't successful raising
40:03
money on other avenues. Well, like my training
40:07
is done. I'm never going to fight Bob. Not knowing
40:10
that. Yeah. And the best part about it is we
40:15
have people from all walks of life, all ages.
40:17
We had two, I think it's like two 60 year olds
40:20
fight last year too. It's just like, it's such
40:24
a. Beautiful event like it brings everybody together.
40:27
It's like I got the opportunity to coach both
40:30
I have I have three brothers two of them fought
40:33
on the show one on the second one on the third
40:35
and it's just like It's a crazy opportunity man.
40:39
Like it's an amazing feeling. I love it. Like
40:41
it's I'll be honest I'm nervous like because
40:44
it's my blood. It's my family, right? But it's
40:47
just one of those things where it's like you're
40:49
witnessing Your family members do what you are
40:52
so passionate about right? and you get to coach
40:55
them through it. Whether they continue on or
40:57
not, that's a different story. But I think your
41:00
brother's definitely took it serious. Yeah, 100%,
41:03
man. Like Roberto was in the gym. My older brother
41:06
was in the gym all the time. And then Matthew,
41:08
the baby of the family, he was also in the gym
41:11
all the time. He was sparring, he was training,
41:14
putting in the work. Yeah. He's like, and I will
41:17
say, those two are just pure athletes. So they
41:20
pick up any sport and... they can do whatever
41:22
they want. What's that? Yeah. Right. And like
41:28
speaking of role models though, my older brother,
41:30
man, we have a five year difference, but that
41:32
boy, I used to look up to him all the time. I
41:35
still look up to that man. Like I remember like
41:37
being in elementary school and then he was like
41:40
that athlete, that jock, and he could just do
41:43
no wrong, man. Like he was always in the newspapers
41:46
doing, doing everything right, bro. Like Yeah,
41:50
that guy, like I still look up to that man. So
41:53
from that aspect, how important is it for you
41:59
or how motivating is it for you when you have
42:02
people looking up to you? When people put you
42:06
in that role model role, how much does that lift
42:10
you up and make you like, solidify you with that?
42:16
So the way I see it is like, again, coaching.
42:21
it's putting me in a position where there are
42:24
some kids that, you know, they're having fun,
42:26
they're looking up to me and stuff. Like my kids,
42:28
they look up to me, right? So, and they love
42:31
watching me fight, especially my daughter, man.
42:33
She's a little crazy, but she's got that Latina
42:37
heat, bro. But, yeah. And like, honestly, man,
42:44
like they're always asking, dad, when are you
42:46
gonna fight? Dad, what this? And like, even when
42:48
I lose, like, I always have a smile on my face
42:50
because I get to walk down those stairs, see
42:52
the doctor, then hug my kids, man, because they
42:55
always think that I'm a winner, man, regardless,
42:58
win, lose or draw. Yeah, like they don't care.
43:01
Yeah. They don't know what they don't know. But
43:04
true, it's like my dad's doing something amazing
43:06
that a lot of other people's dad are doing. Yeah.
43:09
You know what I mean? A lot of other people's
43:10
dads are just sitting at home watching TV while
43:13
you're there in the ring. putting in that work.
43:15
Yeah, like at the novice tournament, my son ended
43:18
up bringing two of his friends from soccer to
43:20
watch me fight. That's also, like, whether it's
43:24
like... Christian will be hating your house now.
43:26
Yeah, oh, they better. You getting into the ring
43:29
is a great coaching moment. Yeah. You know what
43:32
I mean? Whether the outcome is whatever, you're
43:35
still coaching because now that person's like,
43:37
I want to be just like you. Yeah. How do I do
43:40
that? It's like you're going to have to lose
43:41
a little bit to win. Exactly. If we don't fail,
43:45
we're not learning, right? You do it every single
43:47
time in sparring. I see you. I'm a practice sparring.
43:51
I'm a practice sparring man. We did like a few
43:53
five minute rounds together, man. And then me
43:56
and Malcolm, Malcolm and I, we did almost like
43:59
a whole hour together one time, man. Oh, jeez.
44:01
We were drenched in sweat. That was where it
44:04
first went. You don't understand how hard I train.
44:07
Like, I feel really bad looking back on it. It's
44:10
like, I over train. There's no such thing as
44:16
being over -prepared with something. You're not
44:18
wrong, but I don't think my opponent realized
44:20
how hard I was training. I don't think so, either.
44:23
Because you're putting in the 6 a .m. type of
44:26
work, man. Yeah. That's because you got there,
44:31
and you see all these things, and you have all
44:33
the people there, and they're like, I will help
44:34
you do this. And you look up to these guys, and
44:37
they're like, you can do it. You're like, you're
44:39
right, I can. And then you did. Yeah. No, man,
44:43
it's it's honestly like but like when you get
44:46
to see what you put in right the aftermath It's
44:49
it's the best feeling like your hand getting
44:50
raised a name getting announced Doesn't get any
44:56
better than that I Think losing the last one
44:59
though took you did hit me hard. I talked about
45:01
it. Yeah hit me hard and it wasn't because I'm
45:06
lost is because like I could have put more work
45:08
in and I was like and then I looked back with
45:11
like I do a lot. Podcasting, work two jobs. I
45:18
think that last fight, it caught up to me. Yeah.
45:21
You're a man that wears many hats, man. Back
45:24
to the role model thing. Taking that experience,
45:29
how helpful do you think that will be in your
45:32
coaching life? You can actually talk about that
45:35
and be like, hey. So guys, I've been in a few
45:40
fights. The first one, I put in a ridiculous
45:42
amount of effort. I thought I was over -prepared.
45:46
I won. The second one, I took it too lightly.
45:49
I didn't train as much as I should've. I didn't
45:53
get the results I wanted. Make sure you're training
45:55
enough. Otherwise you're not, like if you're
45:57
not putting in the effort, you're not gonna get
45:59
the result you want. The way I coach now, I'm
46:04
like... The coaches that I have with me are amazing.
46:08
I'm just the D -line, O -line coach. And I never
46:11
really played O -line, but I understand O -line.
46:14
As a D -line man, I know everything they're doing.
46:18
I'm watching you, right? So I can coach to it
46:21
and help these kids. And then now I'm also trying
46:24
to help. Because we can only do so much as coaches.
46:28
So the safeties, I'm now telling like, hey. We
46:32
need to learn how to be patient and wait and
46:35
not always have to react to everything. So there's
46:38
times where, like, I'll be on, they'll be playing
46:41
defense and I'm on the field with them and I'll
46:44
grab them by their jerseys and, like, slow down.
46:48
And then I'll let them go to make the play. But
46:51
it's, like, also talking to the coach and then
46:53
being like, you see who's putting in the work.
46:55
And it's just like sometimes you have to voice
46:58
your opinions and not be heard. But we are hearing
47:01
you. We're seeing what you're doing with those
47:03
statements. Yeah. Right? We're seeing your character.
47:06
You keep putting in the work. Then we're going
47:07
to put you in a situation where you can be successful.
47:10
Exactly. Right? So my style is I listen first.
47:15
And I watch before I act on a lot of the kids
47:19
to make sure that you understand that we heard
47:22
you. We need to see if you're just going to get
47:24
frustrated and give up. or you're going to fight
47:26
through it. Yeah. And that's my style of how
47:30
I would coach. I listen first, see, then I act.
47:34
Yeah. That's important because not everybody
47:35
is the exact same. No. No. No. Everyone has different
47:38
life stories. Everyone's gone through different
47:40
things. Yeah, 100%. You know what I mean? And
47:42
sometimes, even coaching boxing, let's be honest.
47:45
For some people, the job is the most powerful
47:48
weapon in the game. For other people, it's actually
47:51
blocking and doing the counter. Yeah. Like, I'm
47:54
not going to coach. fighter A the same way I
47:57
coach fighter B, right? So you got to see strength
48:00
and weaknesses and that's what brings them. That's
48:02
what makes a good coach, right? Or a great coach.
48:05
Yeah, being adaptable. Yeah, exactly. It's like
48:08
you may have one kid that's super fast and can
48:11
just avoid everything. Yeah. And you have another
48:13
guy who strong but slow. Yeah. And it's like,
48:18
I can't tell B to be like, hey, not the same
48:21
thing. Yeah, I can't. And that's the thing, right?
48:25
Like we have, uh, nano in the gym who's very
48:30
fast, very slick. But then we also have, uh,
48:33
like Ben, who's also slick, but not as fast.
48:38
So I can't tell nano or I can't tell Ben to be,
48:42
you know, as fast as nano, but I can tell them,
48:45
you know, start stepping, start stocking, start
48:48
moving around. Right. That's one of those challenges
48:52
though. Like I think back in the day, coaching,
48:54
you just say, I'm gonna coach this style and
48:56
that's it. I think now people have too many personalities
48:59
and the personalities is the game then. Like
49:03
when you look at football now, like you wouldn't
49:05
have got that old albaca catcher if you didn't
49:07
let him play the way you want to play. You know,
49:10
we wouldn't have that debate about Ronaldo and
49:13
Messi if they were coaching the exact same way
49:15
because their styles are totally different. You
49:18
know what I mean? Or like golf. you know, swinging
49:22
differently from Tiger Woods to, like, Mike Weir.
49:26
You know what I mean? Like, it just... Your personality
49:29
has changed the game so much and creativity has
49:32
changed the game so much that not everything
49:35
is, you know, a form. It's an emotion. It's a
49:40
feel. It's something that a coach can get you
49:44
to as long as you understand the fundamentals.
49:47
Exactly. Let's say sometimes, like, even in,
49:49
like... Professional sports coaching does not
49:51
get enough credit. No, not at all What when your
49:57
team needs a new head coach, but they just won't
49:58
do it yeah Yeah, that's true, but it was still
50:05
an ugly win like but There was parts that like
50:10
I'm glad they're not losing next week because
50:13
it's a bye week Oh, there it is. Yeah. Well,
50:17
I know someone will get like injured or something.
50:20
Like I didn't say that. Yeah. No, but now that
50:27
you're a coach. Yeah. How hard is it to watch
50:30
sports rather than like, depends what sports,
50:33
but when I'm watching soccer or like MMA or boxing.
50:40
off the wall, man. I'm just like, why? I'm like,
50:43
the coach is telling him the wrong thing. Yeah.
50:46
Oh, yeah, that too. It's like, sometimes you
50:49
can hear the quarter. They're telling him, you're
50:50
winning. No, you're not. Yeah. You can't lie
50:54
to your fighters, man. It's true. It's true.
50:58
Some people need to be lied to. I guess that's
51:01
what it takes, right? It motivates them because
51:03
if they think they're losing, they're going to
51:06
get down on themselves and give up. Right. They're
51:08
like, no, no, you're winning. Keep pushing because
51:10
you got to win. That's where a good coach comes
51:12
in. I guess you're right. But at the same time,
51:14
it's like, you got to be realistic with certain
51:17
things. When you're fighters down four rounds,
51:19
you got to start making improvements, man. Like
51:25
this turns into less of us trying to win the
51:27
fight and more of us trying to learn You know
51:30
what for this round. Just throw your jab move
51:32
your feet. Have some fun. Have some fun So we're
51:38
down for old Timmy. What do you mean? Yeah, that's
51:47
what we're here for leave it alone knocking about
51:50
his yeah Yeah, you know something about that.
51:54
You know something about that. Hassan, I love
51:56
you, buddy. I'm sorry. H2O in one. Oh. I'm sorry.
52:04
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Next year. Next
52:05
year. You need to get back in the ring. I'm team
52:07
H2O, brother. Don't worry. Are you? Nah, nah,
52:11
nah. OK. OK. So then we call it rematch. I'm
52:14
team MPT, brother. Stop that. I'm team MPT. Rematch?
52:20
Is that what I hear? Is that what you want to
52:21
rematch? Stop that. Yo, we weren't talking about
52:24
that on camera, so I don't know. I'm just saying.
52:27
I'm just saying. This is your time, man. Any
52:30
shout -outs? Any shout -outs? I would take a
52:31
rematch in a herpy. I know you would. That's
52:33
because you didn't win. That's why you want a
52:35
rematch. Oh! Do you need me to hold you back?
52:40
Do I need to hold you back? Hey, there it is.
52:44
There it is. I keep talking in the ring all over
52:46
the world. I will retire next year, though. Yeah?
52:51
Next year's my last year. I'm saying it. I said
52:53
it on camera. OK. Do you have a month that you're
52:56
going to retire in, or? August? End of the year.
53:01
Okay, okay. Depending on how it goes. I respect
53:03
that, I respect that. You know what, I've been
53:07
thinking about that lately, because I've been
53:09
getting a lot of injuries and stuff, but I have
53:12
two fights that I owe Chris from Rising Stars.
53:16
I have two fights that I owe him there. I do
53:18
want to do a MMA fight eventually. That'd be
53:22
sick. I'd watch that. You know what though? I'm
53:25
almost at my 10th fight, so I could almost go
53:28
to provincials. So who knows, man? But I've been
53:33
really thinking about hanging up the gloves and
53:35
just stick to coaching, because I'm slowly turning
53:39
into... I'm slowly loving more coaching. Leaning
53:42
into the coaching role, yeah. I think for me,
53:45
I love the boxing community. I do want to get
53:48
my coaching license for boxing. Yes, you need
53:50
to. I think for me, though, it's just like I've
53:53
accomplished so much. in a short period of time,
53:55
like for me personally, like my personal goals
53:58
I've accomplished. I won my first one, I won
54:00
my second one, I lost my last one, and I did
54:04
different things for each one. So I don't know,
54:10
like I know for sure that I will end it however
54:12
I do end it. I'm glad that I didn't fight Jason
54:16
Hackers this year. That was a possibility. Yeah,
54:19
he's an animal. He is an animal. I'm glad I never
54:25
had to fight. I'm glad. Thank you, Jesus. I listen
54:29
to you. Is that what the birds were saying when
54:35
they were flying around your head? I think for
54:39
sure though, a great retirement match, I'm just
54:42
going to put it out there, would be fighting
54:44
Alcides at some point. Oh, is this a loser retires
54:48
match? Wait, don't WWE say I quit match? Loser
54:53
has to say I quit at the end. I'm not chasing
54:57
titles. I do it once because when it feels good.
55:01
It's also great to see community come together.
55:04
Whether it's like my community, my opponent's
55:06
community, and there's people who just want to
55:07
have a good time and just support a good cause.
55:10
Punch Out allowed me to see that there is other
55:13
good charities out there. So shadow to J and
55:16
empty T for allowing that for a lot of people
55:18
to see that it doesn't have to be a big event
55:21
to support a good cause Yeah, so I can do such
55:24
a big event to support a good cause. Yes, you
55:27
know, I mean, yeah, so I don't know. Listen Skies
55:33
the limit. You never know. I didn't got to slow
55:35
down my time. I might have to dial back on a
55:37
few things I'm sure by the end of the the ring
55:41
is always there for you, man You got lots of
55:45
time. I have a new style that I want to try.
55:47
So I need to, like, forget a lot of things so
55:49
I can learn. Hey, that's, yo, if we're not learning,
55:52
we're not trying, right? Yeah. Sure. Sure. And
55:56
if I'm getting back in the ring, I might as well
55:58
have a co -host get back in the ring, right?
56:01
My mom is going to get so mad at you. She can
56:06
run in the comments on YouTube. Let's be honest.
56:14
I know who kind of watches. They let me know.
56:18
Honestly, it is great to have you on the episode.
56:23
Thank you guys. Thank you. It's been a long time
56:26
coming. Yeah, man. Yeah, no, but it's been fun.
56:29
It's been good. Got some good chats. Got some
56:31
good everything. It's funny, because we're not
56:35
really talking much football. We have to talk
56:38
a little bit about football. Oh, church. Yeah.
56:40
You know what I mean? Man, my week's been horrible
56:42
for fantasy, so. So you're in fantasy. Yeah.
56:46
OK. OK. Oh, man. What's your team though? Who's
56:49
your team? Oh, my team? So listen, I just started
56:53
watching football like two years ago, three years
56:56
ago. OK. So you picked a team, man. I was only
56:59
supporting my fantasy team. OK. But then everybody,
57:03
like you guys are telling me who's your team,
57:05
what's your team, and I never had a team. So
57:07
now. I signed a five -year contract to support.
57:10
Ready? Oh, no. Two years ago, I'm scared. Go.
57:16
No, I signed the contract last year. At the end
57:20
of last year. OK. So after the Super Bowl. Don't
57:23
say Patriots. He's a Seattle fan now. Seattle?
57:27
No. It is part of the feline family. Jags? No.
57:33
Are you a Bangle fan? No. Panthers? Yes, sir.
57:38
Panthers. So the reason why, backstory, is because
57:43
I have family in North Carolina. So they always
57:46
used to come and give us North Carolina. So I
57:48
have the merch. I just never supported them.
57:52
That's cool, though. I can justify that. And
57:54
I do have a brand new Cam Newton jersey. Hanging
57:59
in my basement. So jeez, it's like it's it was
58:02
it was destiny. So I signed a five -year contract
58:05
I was supporting them for the next five years
58:07
Hey, you picked a good time. Yeah, you picked
58:10
a really good time. It's like they knew I wanted
58:12
to be a fan Yeah, you picked a really good time
58:15
to be a fan. That's serious. Yeah, man. Yeah,
58:18
so I'm up there now, man I'm like keeping tabs.
58:21
But the thing is I didn't think that it's not
58:23
like a mainstream superpowers. Yeah. You know
58:27
what? I'm not about that life, man. I don't have
58:30
the knowledge to argue back right now, so I got
58:35
to pick my battles right now. So that's you.
58:38
That's you. All right. So did you watch a game
58:40
this week? I could have watched this week. Hey,
58:45
it was a busy week for all of us. Bro, it's Thanksgiving
58:47
weekend. Thanksgiving, there's so many moving
58:49
parts, especially when you got a big family.
58:51
Yeah, man. Yeah. And you guys party all night.
58:56
That's a really good thing the Panthers had to
58:58
buy this week. Oh, yeah, they did. Whoops. Can
59:04
we cut that out? I'm just gonna leave it in,
59:07
bro. Leave it in, leave it in, bro. It's all
59:10
fancy. Huge fan over here. Huge fan. I love the
59:13
Panthers. My brother, I'm playing my brother
59:18
this week, and he has Hubbard. and Ted and all
59:22
those guys. So I'm just like, shoot, I should
59:24
have known because he benched them. I would have
59:26
got my butt whooped even worse. Speaking of butt
59:31
whoopings. It wasn't a butt whooping. The fans
59:35
will kick their after. OK, so we're only going
59:39
to talk about maybe three games. OK. I'm going
59:42
to bring one more game into it during the discussion
59:47
because it seems relevant. Buccaneers and Cowboys.
59:51
I don't understand how a backup quarterback can
59:54
beat the best offense according to them in the
59:57
NFL on Thursday night. The Bucks showed up, you
1:00:00
could tell they were more prepared. But the Dallas
1:00:02
Cowboys, how do you lose to an old four -team
1:00:06
like that? And it wasn't even pretty. Yeah, but
1:00:10
I don't know, that whole division is gong show
1:00:14
right now. No, nobody won. Two teams played each
1:00:20
other. One team was winning with eight seconds
1:00:23
left while kicking off, and the other team was
1:00:26
playing and a team with zero wins. And none of
1:00:31
them won. That's statistically not possible.
1:00:36
You're not wrong. The Dallas Cowboys, you can
1:00:39
see how frustrated Jerry Jones was. And I want
1:00:42
to be there and say, Jerry Jones, this is your
1:00:44
fault. But there's no other question to be blamed
1:00:47
for for this alone yourselves. Right? So there's
1:00:50
that. Now we can talk about my boys the Eagles
1:00:53
and how How the the irony of you guys making
1:00:57
fun of them so hard for losing to the Ravens?
1:01:00
In the fashion that they did I'm gonna make it
1:01:03
even funnier Say this and like I might have to
1:01:06
cut it out depends on how I feel But like the
1:01:10
Eagles had a chance to win that game and they
1:01:13
blew it worse than Bonnie blue how did you didn't
1:01:15
say that I Think you can say that they had a
1:01:19
chance to win the game and they just Bonnie blew
1:01:21
it. They body blew it. They body blew it. I don't
1:01:25
understand. You kick the ball either at the,
1:01:28
like, completely out, so they only get an opportunity,
1:01:32
or you take the flag and you kick it out of bounds.
1:01:34
But you do not give them an opportunity to almost
1:01:37
return it for a touchdown, to then allow them,
1:01:40
with one second left in the game, to kick it.
1:01:43
When Nick Cereani says, I made a bad call, you
1:01:46
basically told the team... Fire me. ...to get
1:01:48
fired. because you finally admitted that your
1:01:51
play calling has costed the game. Jalen Hurts,
1:01:55
and like, I wish our coach would do that. Jalen
1:01:57
Hurts was at the point where he said, I wish
1:02:00
I said something. And when you have a player
1:02:03
say that in a press conference, we're all reading
1:02:06
it and just like, you lost faith in your folks.
1:02:09
So I hope Howie, amazing GM, feeling that as
1:02:13
well, been like, Meg, you might need to step
1:02:16
down. You want to do it politically? or do you
1:02:18
want me to do it for you? Because there's no
1:02:21
rhyme or reason when a team who's fought that
1:02:25
hard to, we've almost won that game with our
1:02:28
backups. And the coach made a horrible call.
1:02:31
And at the end, like... I was surprised. I thought
1:02:34
the Jags were going to beat them, like, outright.
1:02:37
It's the Jags, though. They... I'm going to be
1:02:40
honest. I feel like they just play to everyone's
1:02:43
level. They match everyone's level, right? They're
1:02:46
not good. They just do what they need to do.
1:02:49
And sometimes get lucky. Yeah. A lot of luck.
1:02:53
I would say. That Eagles game was pure luck.
1:02:56
Yeah. Because like the Eagles fought. Lucky the
1:02:57
Eagles suck. That's all I'm saying. That's all
1:03:01
I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. If you were
1:03:06
a good head coach though, you would be like,
1:03:08
I made the wrong calls. Or it's just like, that
1:03:13
shouldn't have been part of me. Yeah. And it
1:03:15
happened. But the moment you admit to defeat,
1:03:18
you lost the locker room. Yeah. Is there another
1:03:21
game you want to talk about, though? I mean,
1:03:22
we can talk about the Bengals beating the Dolphins.
1:03:24
But honestly, I'm just glad that T. Higgins,
1:03:28
I know he was on a snap count. He was back in
1:03:30
there. Jamar Chase went, played, didn't have
1:03:34
any issues. They got the win. There was, there's
1:03:37
a lot of things that they need to work on on
1:03:39
defense. Uh, there's a lot of things that they
1:03:41
need to work on on offense. There's a lot of
1:03:43
things they need to work on on special teams
1:03:45
and they got the win and they realized that.
1:03:49
So that's what you need out of that game. Like
1:03:52
that was a true tune up game. Okay. Okay. That's
1:03:55
fair. That's fair. Other than that, it is what
1:04:00
it is. I was hoping the Raiders would have beat
1:04:01
the Patriots just cause you know, daddy Tommy.
1:04:05
Daddy Tommy would be like my team beat my old
1:04:08
team. But yeah, that's that part's funny Drake
1:04:12
man's gotta do like just enough to like keep
1:04:15
his job. Yeah, man There's so many guys like
1:04:19
that they'll be like they'll play terrible like
1:04:22
three three weeks in a row and then all of a
1:04:24
sudden just be like Everyone's okay. This is
1:04:27
the game. This is the game. They're gonna pull
1:04:28
them and he is never gonna play again And then
1:04:31
he just plays lights out. You're like, all right
1:04:34
Here we go again. What was it, four Tuddies in
1:04:36
a run? In like a Russian Tuddy? That was unbelievable.
1:04:42
The other thing we can talk about is, it's funny
1:04:45
how Odo Beckham Jr. gets clenched in the Giants
1:04:47
and is already picked up with the Vikings. He
1:04:50
got elevated a few days ago from practice squad
1:04:53
to be on the actual team. And like, when he picked
1:04:56
his jersey, he was just like, swell. Justin Jefferson
1:04:59
is half the player I was, so I'll take half his
1:05:01
number. What? He was also in New York and New
1:05:05
Nine was available. Yes. Yeah. But honestly,
1:05:11
like, the end of fall for me, and you can tell
1:05:13
me now, because, like, you've been in it for
1:05:15
two years now, it's similar to, like, Russell.
1:05:20
Yeah. The storylines on all these teams are amazing.
1:05:25
You have the Zach Taylor and the Bang Rolls.
1:05:27
Aka the bungles. It's not really a great storyline.
1:05:30
It's not a great that Taylor's storyline isn't
1:05:34
You know the Eagles where we knock it on the
1:05:36
fire coach and it's frustrating But we believe
1:05:39
in how because he makes deals like crazy to the
1:05:42
point where a person retires we flip the team
1:05:45
and We get a second -round draft pick for a person
1:05:48
those like wait how we how'd you do that? Yeah,
1:05:50
like that was ridiculous I looked at the Steelers
1:05:54
now Steelers have always been like That middle
1:05:58
bus team so it's kind of fitting on the fact
1:06:01
you will be your quarterback Yeah, they're like
1:06:03
that working the working cosmash. Yeah, that's
1:06:07
Aaron Rodgers, but like there's also Patriots
1:06:10
lost the left tackle, but they drafted a left
1:06:12
tackle. So it's like Yeah, it's like it works.
1:06:16
Yeah Right, so then you got to Oh. To a turn
1:06:26
the ball over. Radio. I don't know if I'm allowed
1:06:29
to say that on a radio. If you know, you know.
1:06:33
The funniest thing I saw, not really that funny,
1:06:36
was with his interception that he threw, they're
1:06:39
like, man, when they get to check his brain for
1:06:42
CTE, no one's going to be allowed to play football.
1:06:45
Yeah. No. I don't think he's going to be. Taking
1:06:53
that starting job anytime soon. No, no. All right,
1:06:56
so obviously, we have a game going on behind
1:06:59
us. And it's obviously tilted so we don't get
1:07:01
hit with soccer -rate issues. But who do you
1:07:03
have? Are you cheering for the Bills or are you
1:07:06
cheering for the LA Rams? And tell me why you
1:07:10
pick who you pick. And how bad do you want this
1:07:12
jersey right here? Not that bad because you're
1:07:14
a Panthers fan now? Just like, I just like, you
1:07:17
know, I like the jersey, but I got to go with
1:07:19
the Bills, man, because I still have James. Cook
1:07:22
playing, and Josh Allen. And you're saying you're
1:07:25
playing your brother today, this week, right?
1:07:27
Versus my brother. Which brother are you facing?
1:07:30
Lolo. He's sitting right over there, man. OK,
1:07:33
because you brought the family up. Yeah, yeah,
1:07:35
yeah. And then, but he's got Kyren, so. Oh, yeah.
1:07:40
I'm just hoping James Cook and Kyren kind of
1:07:43
like cancel each other, and then Josh Allen just
1:07:45
goes off, bro. I have Stafford, and I'm playing
1:07:51
against Puka. So you're like, throw it, but not
1:07:54
to him. Yeah, yeah. Anybody but him. Not to Tim
1:07:58
Navante, Adam. Yeah, yeah. What she just did.
1:08:02
Show that, Sweet. Yeah, that's our guy right
1:08:03
now. That's our boy. I know this episode's almost
1:08:07
going on for an hour. Just over an hour. Oh,
1:08:09
shoot. You still gotta pay a little bit of bills.
1:08:11
Yeah. Speaking of bills. Bills. Go build. Huge
1:08:16
shout out to Clubhouse for giving us this opportunity
1:08:19
to bring off the bench over to the simulator,
1:08:22
which you can actually watch the game, you know,
1:08:24
have some wings. Get the gang all here. Gang
1:08:27
and chill out, you know, bring your friends over
1:08:29
and be like, so huge shout out to them. Huge
1:08:32
shout out to Pest Case Scenario. I know they're
1:08:33
not here today, but if you have any Pest Case
1:08:36
Scenario issues in your house, mice, critters,
1:08:39
whatever, Pest Case... This is called Pest Case.
1:08:43
He always gets it done. It's true. Sure. When
1:08:46
you need that merch though. Yeah, who do you
1:08:49
call? Ghostbusters? Nope. I was waiting for that.
1:08:55
Yeah. Well, if you wait, you can get all your
1:08:57
merch. Check it out. You can get this merch right
1:08:59
here. I got a nice new sweater I got to throw
1:09:02
on. I saw you went to your mom's today. I saw
1:09:05
the package. You went to your mom's today. That's
1:09:08
why you were late. Hey, I love getting all my
1:09:11
stuff delivered there. It's fantastic. Well,
1:09:12
unfortunately, due to the fact that you live
1:09:15
in an apartment and you don't even have a buzzer
1:09:16
code. Yeah. Such is life. Makes life a little
1:09:19
bit different. The point is, I wanted the merch
1:09:21
and I figured it out. You got to get on there.
1:09:25
So honestly, dropping a lot of new things. There's
1:09:28
a lot of new projects coming along on the Milky
1:09:30
Way side. There's going to be a mini series now.
1:09:34
There we go. The man who is not busy enough.
1:09:38
He just needs more hats, that's what he needs.
1:09:42
The goal is to Off the Bench allowed communities
1:09:47
to come together in ways that we didn't think
1:09:50
was positive. It kind of showed you when Jay
1:09:53
did the show for Encore and kind of highlighted
1:09:56
what Off the Bench was meant to community. And
1:09:59
like taking that same energy, I understand that,
1:10:02
you know, we gotta do better. and bringing that
1:10:05
community smaller and smaller so everyone feels
1:10:08
included. So by doing that, opportunities for
1:10:12
Milky Way are coming up, which ties back into
1:10:14
then Off the Bench, and there's a lot of great
1:10:17
things coming. For season two, thank you for
1:10:20
being our first guest. Oh, shoot, man. You are
1:10:23
officially the best guest we've had this season.
1:10:25
Oh, damn. You're the best guest of season two.
1:10:32
I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. What
1:10:34
we were trying to do was we were making sure
1:10:35
that every technical issue didn't happen, but
1:10:38
wouldn't happen for when we brought in a very
1:10:42
important guest. We've been working hard in our
1:10:54
craft and we appreciate you taking the time to
1:10:56
share your craft with us and let us build something
1:10:59
amazing. And I'm looking forward to you coming
1:11:02
back and telling us more stories about you coaching,
1:11:04
what you've learned, you know, maybe go back
1:11:07
in your car and do a quick episode, see this
1:11:10
build. Or you can tell the story about how someone
1:11:14
just won a title because of you. Because you
1:11:16
teaching them how to achieve those challenges
1:11:19
in life. And those stories are coming, man, to
1:11:21
be continued right now. I do know somebody who
1:11:23
I think we should train soon. He's like family
1:11:27
to me. OK, OK. So we can work something out.
1:11:29
Hey, say like family. I think technically he
1:11:32
is family. He is family. Hey, well, we'll talk.
1:11:34
We'll talk. I would love to see you achieve goals,
1:11:37
because you guys have the same story. OK. And
1:11:40
I think what you could do would also be great
1:11:43
for a testimonial for younger generation, older
1:11:46
generation. All right. 100%. Let's do it. I'm
1:11:53
mopping the milk, man. Scott the visionary, ho.
1:11:55
I'll see this built, baby. Where can we find
1:11:58
you? Instagram, I'll see this built. TikTok,
1:12:02
no bounds, I'll see this. And then Facebook,
1:12:05
YouTube, all that other fun stuff is I'll see
1:12:07
this built. We got you. All right. We out. That's
1:12:11
a wrap. Big love to the sponsors that keep this
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