Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / How to Turn Passersby into Customers: The Art of the "Pull"
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- 0:00Hello and welcome to the podcast.
- 0:02Today we're going to talk about how to start conversations in
- 0:06retail. Or if you own a retail shop and
- 0:10you have a sales boy or sales girl as we call them in this
- 0:12part of the world, how you can train them on how to start
- 0:16conversations in retail. Because when you have a retail
- 0:19establishment, when you have a shop in a place like City Plaza,
- 0:23Grand Square, you know, places in Abuja, let's see what else.
- 0:26OK, Spa Spa is a nationwide franchise.
- 0:30So is this spa? I mean, what's it called again?
- 0:33ShopRite. Yeah, ShopRite.
- 0:34So if you happen to have a retail outlet in any of these
- 0:37establishments, you know, there's lots of food, traffic,
- 0:39people are walking by the store. And sometimes you want to try
- 0:42and get people into the store so you can have a conversation
- 0:45because you never know, you might be able to get a sale that
- 0:48way. Because sometimes people walk
- 0:50into the shop because, you know, they come there because they
- 0:53want to buy something. And sometimes people walk in
- 0:56just because they, I mean, they walk by, they look through the,
- 0:59the glass window, you know, they're curious.
- 1:01So we're trying to have a conversation to bring them into
- 1:04the store. Now the reason why this is the
- 1:08topic I'd be the question that we're tackling today is because
- 1:12I happen to go by City Plaza, needed to buy AAA batteries and
- 1:18needed to buy some water. So OK, I was told they didn't
- 1:22the they don't sell water there, that's Seaway.
- 1:25So I put the Seaway bottles outside of the store.
- 1:27I went in, I got my AAA batteries and then I was
- 1:30leaving. Then as I was strolling now, I
- 1:33saw one of my long lost loves because back in the day when we
- 1:39moved to Lagos, when I was about 131213 ish at the time, there
- 1:44was one of my guys, one of my seniors, Benga, Benga
- 1:47Wellington, he's a lawyer now, was still in touch.
- 1:49So I noticed that he had this watch, it's called a Swatch.
- 1:54It's a Swiss watch. So you know, obviously Swatch
- 1:58and they make water resistant wristwatches.
- 2:01And I, I just fell in love with the brand back then, you know,
- 2:05as a little kid. And I just determined that I was
- 2:08only going to wear swatches. So I went for a very long time
- 2:12just wearing Swatch. If I'm not wearing Swatch, I'm
- 2:14wearing Casio. I was either Casio or Swatch or
- 2:18Shah. You know, those are the only two
- 2:19things you see on my wrist. Also because, you know, for
- 2:23swimming, for workouts, for exercise, you know, whatever, I
- 2:26wear my watch all the time. So that's how I fell in love
- 2:29with Swatch. But then, of course, you know,
- 2:31you grow up, you get more mature, you meet a girlfriend,
- 2:34you know, she starts trying to expand your horizons.
- 2:37And so my wife started buying me different kind of watches.
- 2:40So I think first she got me a police, police wristwatch.
- 2:44Then while we were dating, I decided to, you know, I decided
- 2:48to be promiscuous. That's why I moved on.
- 2:50I tried Cieco, I tried Cieco wristwatches.
- 2:53I tried what else? I tried a couple of things, you
- 2:57know, and you know, I was like that.
- 2:59But then by the time I first born, I was born, you know, I
- 3:02bought a Swatch again for me, for wifey.
- 3:05But then by the time we had the second kid, you know, anyway,
- 3:10Sharon, I'm just trying to think.
- 3:11I had been in a very long relationship with Swatch, as in
- 3:15like me and Swatch, you know, she's like my long lost love.
- 3:19So as I was leaving this place now and I saw a poster of a
- 3:27Swatch. Well, this one looked like it
- 3:30looked like a Casio, like AG shock.
- 3:32I was like Swatch. They're making this kind of
- 3:35wristwatch now, as in a very, very, you know, masculine,
- 3:39rugged, you know, not the simple kind of Swatch that we knew back
- 3:43in the day. So I said OK, no problem, let me
- 3:46just go and look. So as I was walking by now, I
- 3:50went to the glass section outside as I didn't enter the
- 3:55shop, I just walked by. I just walked past the front and
- 3:58then I went straight to the section where the kiddies
- 4:02watches were. And then next thing, the sales
- 4:06lady who was outside chilling with her friends, she said, hey,
- 4:09Olga, go inside now. And I said, no, no, thank you
- 4:11very much. And she said, Olga, he's free to
- 4:14look. He's free.
- 4:15And then I started laughing. And then I went and I picked up
- 4:17my water bottles and then I left.
- 4:20So as I sat in the car and I said, OK, let me just make this
- 4:23podcast recording quick, quick, quick.
- 4:25Because if I get home first before I make this recording, I
- 4:27might forget. Oh, by the way, if this is your
- 4:29first time listening to the podcast, you're wondering who is
- 4:31this guy? My name is Tavishima Ayede.
- 4:33I'm a former lawyer turned business consultant, and all I
- 4:37do is talk about solving business problems, especially
- 4:40from a sales perspective. So we figure out how to grow
- 4:43revenue over here on the podcast and we figure out how to do that
- 4:46one conversation at a time. Having a conversation with one
- 4:50contact, 1 prospect, one potential customer, one
- 4:54potential, you know, whatever it is you call them in your line of
- 4:57business, we see how we can grow our revenues one conversation at
- 5:00a time. And of course, this girl that
- 5:03said, OK, go inside now, I'll clap for her.
- 5:06She did well because most sales boys or sales girls as we call
- 5:10them in this part of the world, they're outside.
- 5:13If somebody walks by and looks and the person leaves, they
- 5:16don't say anything. They're in their mind.
- 5:18They'll say if the guy's interested, he, you know, he
- 5:21will buy. By the way, sales boys and sales
- 5:24girls listening, this is the reason why you are underpaid.
- 5:28This is the reason why your orga looks at you as a lowly
- 5:31somebody, because you add no value to the business.
- 5:35They hire you, they put you there.
- 5:38Your own mind view is that you know if they want it, they will
- 5:42buy. So because of that, you don't go
- 5:44to do anything extra to get people into the store.
- 5:48Your orga is looking, your Madam is looking.
- 5:51They can't see you. As far as they're concerned,
- 5:54you're just like a seat woman. So therefore that's the reason
- 5:57why they pay you cheap. If organ and Madam see that you
- 6:02have some initiative. I mean, what do you think they
- 6:06will elevate your profile or you man, you can even make an
- 6:09argument that Madam, by the time I joined the shop as a junior
- 6:13somebody, this is how much we are doing average on a monthly
- 6:16something. But then when Cammy left the
- 6:18shop and I became head of the show floor because of one or two
- 6:22things where they do to bring customers in.
- 6:24Madam, you can see how we have moved from 800K every single
- 6:27month. We're now doing like 1.7.
- 6:30Madam, I beg it's time for a pay raise.
- 6:33You can make the argument and then of course, remember Olga
- 6:38Madam, they're always looking. They can't see you.
- 6:41So as you see it, they will know that you know what this person
- 6:46actually is better than chemi that left because truly, truly,
- 6:50as I said, as as this person came in, we have seen a rise in
- 6:54profits. So you can see how even if
- 6:58you're a lonely somebody on the totem pole, they don't rate you
- 7:01in the shop and they pay you anyhow.
- 7:03You can see how you can use sales skills to better your
- 7:05life. Now The thing is this, even if
- 7:07your OGA or your Madam does not agree to a pay raise, right?
- 7:11But from listening to this podcast or learning other things
- 7:14on YouTube or you know, whatever, or from reading PDFs
- 7:17online, you're able to learn one or two things and become a
- 7:20better salesperson than that. It is possible that by the time
- 7:24you move to another organization you can come in at, even if you
- 7:30come in at the same pay scale, who knows, you might be able to
- 7:33get, you might be able to argue for a higher salary later on.
- 7:39So summary what I'm trying to say is the fact that that that
- 7:45Lady let me not say girl again so that nobody works.
- 7:49So the fact that that Lady looked at me and said Olga go
- 7:51inside now. I'll clap for her.
- 7:53She tried because that particular tactics Olga go
- 7:57inside now or mommy go inside. Now.
- 8:01The thing is, if you ask 10 people go inside now you never
- 8:04know, 2 might enter and all the two that enter, who knows, one
- 8:08might buy. It's better than just staying
- 8:10outside. You don't say anything and
- 8:13people just walk on by. So very good.
- 8:16OK, I'll go and enter. Very good.
- 8:19Oh, by the way, I forgot. If you'd like to get in touch
- 8:21with me, you can call, send me a text message or a WhatsApp
- 8:23message on 08064662140. Yeah, I'm free like that.
- 8:30I'd like to have conversations with people.
- 8:32So just let me know you have any questions you have any comments
- 8:34you have, any queries, reach out to me.
- 8:36If there's something that I, I've said on this particular
- 8:39episode that is not clear, let me know so I can come back and
- 8:42make a clarifying episode. Or you can also find me on
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- 8:48from this, subscribe on Spotify, YouTube, Apple or any player of
- 8:54your choice. So where was I now?
- 8:58So I gotta go inside now. Yes, we will give her some
- 9:01marks. We'll clap for her.
- 9:03But The thing is, OK, go inside now is not the most effective
- 9:07things you could have done. Now, lots of people don't know
- 9:10that the most effective thing that we can do when we are in
- 9:15retail actually is we try and spark conversations.
- 9:18We try and draw people into conversations.
- 9:22So if you own a shop in City Plaza, in Grand Square, in
- 9:28ShopRite, in Spa, in whatever you have one particular corner
- 9:33where you sell baby's clothes or where you sell wristwatches or
- 9:38where you sell computers or where you sell, you know,
- 9:41whatever it is because you know how these shops are partitioned.
- 9:44The best thing you're trying to do actually is to pull somebody
- 9:47into a conversation. So if you have a small corner of
- 9:54City Plaza and and you sell computer accessories because
- 9:57there's a place there that sell computer accessories and the
- 10:00gentleman walks in, what most of them do I notice they just come
- 10:04and stand next to you and then they don't say anything.
- 10:07Can you guys stop that, please? It's kind of unnerving.
- 10:11Anyway, let me talk about that later on.
- 10:13So we'll just go and stand there and they don't say anything.
- 10:15The trick is to try and engage somebody in a conversation.
- 10:18When you engage the person in the conversation and people
- 10:20start talking, you'll be able to know that the person standing
- 10:23here is the person curious, do they actually have a need?
- 10:26Do they want to buy something or are they just walking through?
- 10:30And then you'll be able to deal with them accordingly.
- 10:33So the goal is to pull somebody into a conversation.
- 10:37Now back to what this lady said. Olga, go inside now.
- 10:41We'll give her marks. Good.
- 10:42But what are more effective ways to start off from a
- 10:45conversation? How about good morning, Sir?
- 10:48Would you like to come inside? See it's that is a better
- 10:55invitation. Another one is this.
- 10:59I'm standing next to the Swatch window and I'm standing next to
- 11:03the children's section. Now, because of how things work
- 11:05in this part of the world, it will be OK for her to actually
- 11:07walk out to me and say, OK, good morning.
- 11:09No, ASA, good morning. How are you doing, ASA?
- 11:13ASA, how many children do you have in this part of the world?
- 11:16It's OK. I'm standing next to a display.
- 11:19The display is for children's wristwatches.
- 11:21It is OK for her to assume that I have kids and start on that
- 11:24level. You never know which way the
- 11:26thing can go. I said, oh, I have two kids, but
- 11:28actually it's not because of them that I'm studying here.
- 11:30I said, OK, Sir, how are you thinking about trying this
- 11:34watch? Have you thought about using
- 11:36this watch before? Now she can ask that kind of
- 11:38question because obviously I am not wearing a Swatch anymore and
- 11:43you know, she can see that. So those of you who sell stuff,
- 11:46you know, like this, you have to be sharp, you know, quick on the
- 11:49draw to size people up. So since I'm not wearing this
- 11:54watch, she could have started, Sir, the question could have
- 11:56been, am I, do I want to try out this watch or am I willing to
- 12:00consider this watch? Now that would have gone into
- 12:02that whole conversation about how, oh, actually I used to use
- 12:05this watch and I haven't used to buy from the shop.
- 12:08And then, you know, this part of the world, Niger, she kind of
- 12:11said, hey, Olga, So what happened now?
- 12:13Why did you stop buying from us? Remember, sales has to be
- 12:19conversational. We can't sell anything unless
- 12:22we're having conversations with people.
- 12:24Oh, and by the way, all these suggestions I'm making, I'm
- 12:26making them within the Nigerian context.
- 12:28So if you're in retail in the UK, you know, don't try some of
- 12:30this stuff that I'm saying. But in Nigeria, in this part of
- 12:33the world, it is absolutely OK for a sales girl in quote to
- 12:37walk up to somebody who is standing at a display where
- 12:40their children's things being sold and to ask is and to say
- 12:43good morning Sir, good morning Madam, you know, how many
- 12:46children do you have? It's not rude in this part of
- 12:48the world. But either way, what I'm just
- 12:51trying to show you is that or what?
- 12:53What I'm trying to stress is that we cannot sell something
- 12:57unless we draw people into a conversation, especially in this
- 13:00retail context. So those of you who are trying
- 13:05to get people to come into your shop or to get people to come
- 13:08into Madam shop who clap for you, you are doing well.
- 13:12But just remember the way you should try and do is you try and
- 13:14look for ways to be conversational, to draw people
- 13:17into a conversation. And from there you might be able
- 13:20to figure out if somebody is curious, if someone is
- 13:24interested or if someone has an active need.
- 13:27So if she tries more things like that, would you like to come
- 13:30inside? How long, how long have you been
- 13:35thinking of trying this watch? Is this your first time of
- 13:38coming through the store? Let me see, what else can I say?
- 13:43What else can I say? OK, maybe the particular section
- 13:48where the person is standing, all the models there are maybe
- 13:53black and purple. But then you notice that the
- 13:56gentleman standing there likes to wear lots of tan colours.
- 13:59You know, that can also be a conversation starter.
- 14:00So, oh, if you like, Sir, I could show you some of these
- 14:04models in brown and grey and blah, blah, blah and take it
- 14:10from there. So of course, I'm sure you guys
- 14:12have noticed that there's some level of assumption going on
- 14:14there and it's perfectly normal in one to 1 normal human
- 14:19conversation. You know, if you're being
- 14:21assumptive, people would like what's up with this guy now,
- 14:23this guy to forward. But when it comes to sales, it's
- 14:26not a problem. Everybody knows I'm in a shop,
- 14:29everybody knows I'm in a market. So if somebody shows up and is
- 14:33being assumptive, it's not a problem.
- 14:34We kind of expected. So for those of you who own
- 14:38shops and you don't want to be too forward, relax, the rules
- 14:42here are kind of different. If you're being assumptive here
- 14:44is not a problem at all. In fact, it's kind of expected
- 14:48that if I'm standing in the shop and I'm standing in the
- 14:50children's section, it's kind of expected that one of the sales
- 14:55attendance or the whatever or the owner of the shop will come
- 14:58to me and try to get me to buy something or try to help me out.
- 15:04So now let's see. OK, 15 minutes.
- 15:07What was I trying to say anyway? Let me just wrap it up like
- 15:11this. If you are a lowly paid sales
- 15:16boy in quote, that's what we call them in this part of the
- 15:18world or sales girl in quote. You can improve your lot by
- 15:22listening to podcasts like this, by watching YouTube videos like
- 15:27this, by looking for stuff online to learn how to be a much
- 15:30more effective salesperson. If you do that, you obviously
- 15:37will be adding a lot more to the bottom line of the establishment
- 15:41where you work. Nigerian employers are typically
- 15:46more appreciative than employers in other parts of the world
- 15:49because here everything is informal.
- 15:51There's not too much red tape. I told you guys in the previous,
- 15:55OK, not the previous one, but an old podcast episode about how if
- 15:58it is America and you want to ask your guy, you know, for a
- 16:01raise, you know, it's a formal something.
- 16:03You will involve HR, you will do this.
- 16:05You write letter you as in the whole thing is a long story, but
- 16:09in Nigeria, you can actually say Oga, Oga, I know you try for us
- 16:12and Oga will say, come on, what do you mean by that?
- 16:14Say Oga? See now that since I started
- 16:16here, I've been here 8 months, look at how profit has been
- 16:19growing from this this this and that that Oga, you can't even
- 16:21bless your boy. Will it be too much if you add
- 16:25like 75 K to my salary? Like you know, it's Nigel, you
- 16:29can have that kind of informal conversation, no red tape, no
- 16:32human resources, no wanting wanting.
- 16:34It won't become a very official. You can just have that kind of
- 16:37conversation, you know, 2-3 times, you know Olga laughs
- 16:40about it. You ask for 75 K.
- 16:42You know who knows maybe he will now, you know add 3550 K to your
- 16:47salary. It's better than nothing then,
- 16:52if you are trying to bring people into the shop.
- 16:55For those of you who say looking is free, Organto Madame calm
- 17:01inside. That's all right, but rather try
- 17:04and look for ways to draw them into a conversation so you can
- 17:06figure out if this person is curious, just walking by, or
- 17:11maybe they have an actual need. Then you'll be able to have a
- 17:14conversation with them. You'll be able to help them, and
- 17:17you will be able to. You might be able to get a few
- 17:20of them to buy. So yeah, that's it.
- 17:24That's the reason why I hopped on the microphone today.
- 17:28So like I said, if you would like to get in touch, you have
- 17:32questions, you have comments, you have queries, then you can
- 17:34call or send me a text message or WhatsApp message on
- 17:3708064662140. Also remember newest training
- 17:45going on right now, OK, well not right now, but pretty soon on
- 17:49how to start your business in three easy steps.
- 17:52Especially for those of you who are multi potentialates, multi
- 17:55hyphenates, multi creative, multi passionate, multi serial
- 17:59entrepreneur, you know, whatever it is you will call yourself.
- 18:02But basically there are some of you who have 456 different
- 18:05business ideas, but you're not making a single cover from any
- 18:08of them. So that's the whole point of
- 18:09this training. So reach out, let's have a chat.
- 18:12Let's help you select the right idea out of these 345 ideas that
- 18:17you have possibly for a business.
- 18:19Let's pick the right idea. Then let us validate the idea.
- 18:22Let us show that there's market demand that people are willing
- 18:25to pay for this product, for this service, for this idea, for
- 18:29this, whatever it is that you're working on.
- 18:31Then after that, let's come up with a selling system so that
- 18:34not only can you close sales now you can get people to come back
- 18:38and buy again. And you also will be able to get
- 18:40people to refer business to you in the future because when it
- 18:45comes to sales, it's a long game.
- 18:48I'm not just trying to collect money from somebody today.
- 18:51I want the person to be so happy that they'll come back again
- 18:54next month, next three months, another five months.
- 18:59And if we have a good relationship by the end of the
- 19:01year, I want them to send three or four people my way.
- 19:04That is how we're going to start seeing explosive business growth
- 19:08when everybody's happy and we don't have to be hustling and
- 19:11selling so much because people are bringing people our way.
- 19:17Yeah, so that's it. Again, if you'd like to connect
- 19:20with me on LinkedIn, my name is Tavish, and you can find it in
- 19:22the show notes. So thank you very much for your
- 19:24time and attention. I'll catch you all some other
- 19:26time.