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Building Momentum: Marie Merritt on Strength, Resilience & the Power of Showing Up · Beyond the Break

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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Beyond the Break, a podcast where we dive deep into the stories behind today's entrepreneurs, leaders, and change makers.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we uncover what it takes to build something that lasts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's get started.
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  SPEAKER_00: Beyond the Break.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, Marie Merritt, welcome to Beyond the Break.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, are you ready for this?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's go.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, well, let's get into it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm thrilled to have you here today because you've been such a an important role player in our, I think, in our community and just in the health and wellness space.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, you're a business entrepreneur, you're a leader.
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  SPEAKER_02: So uh let's get into you know your background.
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  SPEAKER_02: What led you to to owning and operating a gym?
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  SPEAKER_02: Or how would how do you refer to what what momentum fitness is?
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  SPEAKER_03: So I mean I call it a training studio.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's technically a gym.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and because we primarily focus on personal training and the small group training, it fits.
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  SPEAKER_03: But whenever I started, I was training as a way to help put myself through college.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was going to school at South Florida, thought I wanted to be a doctor.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because I grew up seeing levels of unhealth and people with all sorts of like crazy illnesses because of lifestyle.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I didn't, at the time I wasn't connecting the dots that from being an athlete, from having access to um a healthier physical body, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Like my life was better.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was more of the younger side.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I went to a class and I remembered going, ooh, this isn't what I want to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I had a client at the time who had this huge lifestyle change.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, oh, this.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I'm gonna transition to exercise.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you were a soccer player at this time.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I was I was also playing soccer.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, being a student athlete, training, I was also bartending, I was doing anything I could to help pay for school because I didn't have parents who could afford it, I didn't have um tons of scholarships.
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  SPEAKER_03: I had a few, but not enough to like cover life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, but whenever I transitioned and I transferred schools, I went from USF to UNF, um, switched majors to exercise science, and then was working for a local personal training company.
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  SPEAKER_03: And my moral compass didn't align with the owner of the company.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I said, Oh, well, if this human can run a business, so can I.
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  SPEAKER_03: So then I kind of just haphazardly landed in business ownership.
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  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I was also young and I think a little bit naive to what it takes to own and operate a business.
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  SPEAKER_03: And having it young and relentless on my side, it kind of led to that pursuit of what it is now.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I don't think I had that vision on the front end.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you think of like the risk you took, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Financially.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because when you open your doors, you don't have a salary.
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  SPEAKER_02: You don't, you don't know what you're gonna make for the year.
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  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, I think so many people who are owner operators have the skill.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you're a skilled trainer, but you also have to know to negotiate leases to run a business, hire people.
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  SPEAKER_03: I have no clue.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I had to learn all of that the hard way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: The hard way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the very hard way.
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  SPEAKER_03: I made I've made more than enough um mistakes, but they were actually beneficial in the way that I said, okay, well, if I'm resilient enough to pivot, which ultimately entrepreneurship is, we have to pivot constantly.
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  SPEAKER_03: We say, okay, this works, this didn't really work out the way that I thought.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's either do I throw on the towel or am I going to pivot and continue going?
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  SPEAKER_02: And so have you always been working with men and women?
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: In that space?
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um funny enough, whenever I first started in Ponta Vidra, um, the demographic was very different.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was a lot of retired professionals and then professional athletes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then over the years, I got to see the community get younger, more families started moving in.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and so then my skill set had to broaden.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, just out of the nature of the type of business.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then, you know, of course, like the owner-operator side, there's a lot of stress and pressure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then you gotta you gotta be on when you're training someone, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: You can't be done.
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  SPEAKER_02: Whatever contracts you just signed or whatever uh costs are increasing or whatnot.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you've got to focus on the client while you're working in what you your core strength is.
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  SPEAKER_02: No pun intended there.
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  SPEAKER_03: So exercise jobs.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, overall, you know, what when you work in the smaller groups, how does that, you know, what do you think of the benefits of that versus one-on-one training versus uh groups of 20?
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  SPEAKER_03: So I still to this day, I don't want to say that I don't believe in large group, but that's not our model.
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  SPEAKER_03: So even our groups are capped at six.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, whenever we do anything with teams, that's a little bit different, but I still try to keep a six to one ratio of client to trainer because um, A, people aren't cookies.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um we can do a lot of harm.
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  SPEAKER_03: We can really, there's risk implied whenever you're moving your body, and then think about moving your body with load.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of risk implied.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I never went the large scale model.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, what's the benefit of one-on-one versus all our small group?
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  SPEAKER_03: You have somebody's undivided attention for an entire hour, and then you have that person that is checking on you and building that closer relationship, and everything is completely tailored to you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Whereas a group, there's a little bit of generalization.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: But then we can still make modifications for the the individual.
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  SPEAKER_03: But the difference really is do you want somebody solely focused on you where you don't have to worry about any other person in the room, or do you want a little bit more of a community feel?
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  SPEAKER_02: Especially because you're working with weightlifting, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So technique is critical, form, the way it's being executed as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: So how have you seen, you know, I feel like now people have access to a lot more information through social media.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, what are some of the let's talk about the benefits of it?
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  SPEAKER_02: What are people now listening to that you used to that you've been talking about for years that now maybe are being reinforced out there?
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  SPEAKER_03: The benefits of it is that people will have access to information and they're becoming more interested in it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like they actually want to learn a little bit more.
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  SPEAKER_03: So they'll come in with questions, like, hey, I saw this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: And if we don't shut it down, then we can have a very open dialogue with people.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then we can ask more questions.
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  SPEAKER_03: Why does this interest you?
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  SPEAKER_03: How do you think it will benefit you?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, what in your life do you think it would give you access to that you currently don't have?
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I I would say the biggest benefit is that people are more willing to learn than they were before social media.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
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  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, overall, it was funny when when you did like a pre-interview with me a few years ago about, you know, health and fitness.
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  SPEAKER_02: One thing you asked me was, do you walk after you eat?
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  SPEAKER_02: Which at the time, I was like, I why you asked, what does that mean?
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  SPEAKER_02: So explain that's very powerful with that little idea.
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  SPEAKER_03: It it helps with your digestion.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, it positively impacts your A1C levels, the way that your body uses glucose.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I mean, there's a lot of the benefit there.
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  SPEAKER_03: And a lot of people, they get done with work, they come home, they sit down, they eat, and they're stuck in front of the television.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so just by default, people move less.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're not moving at work, they're not moving a lot at home, and then they come in one day and they think that their entire life is broken.
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  SPEAKER_03: They think that their bodies are broken, they don't recognize who they are, they don't know how they got there, and they don't take a look at their life to realize that there's been a series of behaviors that have led them to this place.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, me asking that question is just kind of gauging what your activity level is outside of coming in and working out in a gym.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because let's say you train two hours out of a week.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's a lot of hours.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a lot of hours that you're not moving.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, no, you think about but just the simple act, you weren't even talking about walking for an hour.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, you were talking about go for a five-minute walk.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that really lowers your sugar spiking, just that simple measure where, like you said, most of us, if you think of when you go have breakfast, you typically people have breakfast, then get in a car and drive to work.
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  SPEAKER_02: You have lunch, then you sit at your desk for the next five hours.
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  SPEAKER_02: You have dinner, then you sit on the couch.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's the exact opposite of what this simple extra, you're not we're not even talking about hours a day.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, it's it's I I call them exercise snacks.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, because people take a look at it and they're like, oh, I have I have no time.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then I say, okay, well, tell me about your life.
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  SPEAKER_03: What is your day-to-day like?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then they start breaking it down.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I say, okay, well, what if we were to add something here?
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  SPEAKER_03: Are you willing to do it?
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  SPEAKER_03: Does that does that interest you?
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  SPEAKER_03: Does that seem like something you can do?
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  SPEAKER_03: And if they say yes, it's like, okay, let's let's add this in.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I'm a more of an add-in person versus telling people to stay away from things.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_03: Human nature, if somebody tells you not to do something, we fixate on it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's right.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's why I want to start with the positives about uh social media and all that you know, one one uh item that I've really seen a lot and read a lot about is is the impact of strength as we get older.
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  SPEAKER_02: Where I think historically people thought, oh, I'm older, I don't do that anymore.
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  SPEAKER_03: That and the people who believe that they can't build muscle or improve their composition or improve their strength as they're aging.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh there's this messaging around, and I see the social media videos, it kills me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm 30, and this is what it sounds like whenever I get up, or oh, my back hurts, and everything is so dramatic.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's like, well, aging doesn't have to be that way.
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  SPEAKER_03: If we don't use it, we lose it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: I would say muscles are the most pure form of that statement.
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  SPEAKER_03: So instead of just chalking it up to old age, it's like, well, you're you're choosing this.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: You are choosing to hurt, you are choosing to let your body fall apart.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now, am I saying that we're not ever going to have pain?
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  SPEAKER_03: No, I don't think pain-free is the goal, but better access to movement and life should be the goal.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So would you recommend weightlifting for a 60 or 70-year-old person in some form?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, 70, 80, 90.
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  SPEAKER_03: I hope to do it until I'm in a grave.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or, you know, whatever.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's not just because into fitness.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's it's how do you get out of this chair?
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  SPEAKER_02: You've got to stand up, use your glutes.
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  SPEAKER_02: What happens?
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  SPEAKER_03: What happens if I fall?
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  SPEAKER_03: Are my bones gonna be strong enough?
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  SPEAKER_03: Or how do I prevent a fall?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because that's what I feel like so many women, when they get to 50, 60, they hear about, you know, osteoporosis and then they're taking a pill.
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  SPEAKER_02: What if you're exercising, you know, there's other ways to do this.
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  SPEAKER_02: There are ways to improve it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I'm not telling people to argue with their doctors.
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  SPEAKER_03: However, if the first line of action is taking a pill versus movement and loading in a safe manner, it doesn't have to be crazy.
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  SPEAKER_03: I tell people we lay a foundation first, like a house, and then we build a nice house on top of that foundation.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, but people who just, oh, I'm old.
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  SPEAKER_03: Women losing bone density.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, a lot of women lose bone density, A, because they're afraid of strength training.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, muscles atrophy if we don't use them.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then what what else is our body supposed to do?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because I feel like there's been a renewed, and I don't know if it's just my algorithm, but you know, a renewed interest in strength versus skinny, for example.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, you know, there's very conflicting information on the internet right now because um skinny is starting to trend again.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so this is something, especially as a woman, and this is right, like the I guess popularity of the GLP one, which they can be life-saving in some instances.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I do, I do advocate for them if it's done properly.
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  SPEAKER_03: But for the person who just wants to lose 10 pounds because they want to be back to their high school weight, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: What does that do for you long term, other than give you a very short-term, I guess, satisfied ego on I hit 115 pounds again like I was when I was 18?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what does the number matter?
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  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't.
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  SPEAKER_02: No.
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  SPEAKER_03: What matters or what should matter is what people can do, what they have access to.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, how do they feel whenever they're physically capable enough?
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like what does that life feel like versus oh great, I can fit into those genes again.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's but I can't walk up a flight of stairs.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's that's really important kind of thing as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, hopefully the this, you know, and and just people being afraid, oh, I might get too bulky.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, what are the chances?
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh I've been trying to get bulky my whole life, and it's just not.
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  SPEAKER_03: Some people are not genetically predisposed to it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um I lift what I would consider fairly heavy.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I wouldn't consider myself bulky.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I have muscles and I have muscle definition, but I'm not, you know, like beefed out.
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  SPEAKER_02: Most people.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: The chance of being too bulky is slim.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you can pump the brakes on it.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you end up having massive muscles.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and you don't like it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you could you could pull back.
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  SPEAKER_02: But uh, I would take the risk, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I would say the risk far outweighs, or the the benefit far outweighs the risk there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um and how do you uh how do you feel about, you know, back in the day there was, you know, a lot of these um group um, you know, where you're jumping around a room and just doing high intensity uh stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, is some of that actually hurt your fruit fat burning ability if you're doing an hour of high intense?
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  SPEAKER_03: No, because our bodies adapt.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and our that's an amazing thing about being a human.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're creatures of adaptation.
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  SPEAKER_03: We adapt to stressful environments, we adapt to jobs, we adapt to schedules and routines.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, does it hurt your body's ability to burn fat?
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  SPEAKER_03: No.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, are some of the movements a little bit higher risk?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Do I believe that it has a place?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think that other things need to be integrated.
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  SPEAKER_03: So the people who only do that because they think that that's the only way that they feel like they had a good exercise.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, then I would I would ask them other questions.
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  SPEAKER_03: I would be more curious about what it is about that feeling that they like.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Versus the people who come over and they start strength training, they're like, oh, I well, I don't feel this.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like, well, what actually starts feeling the burn has to do with like Krebs cycle.
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  SPEAKER_03: I could get super science nerdy on you.
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  SPEAKER_03: But just because you don't feel like you're dying doesn't mean that you're not benefiting.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: And if if someone had a decent schedule and availability of time, what would you recommend a blend of walking, running, weightlifting, swimming?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, what would be if you could just start with a clean slate?
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  SPEAKER_03: If I could start with a clean slate, um so it's very hard to remove some of my lived experiences, but um walking, in my opinion, is one of the most underrated forms of exercise.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just in general.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think more people should walk.
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  SPEAKER_03: Please start walking.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think everybody should walk every single day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Even if it's just for a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's good for our brains.
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  SPEAKER_03: It can be a 10-minute walk.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Get up in the morning, go outside, go for a walk, come back, and then get on with your day.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or finish your dinner, go for a walk.
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  SPEAKER_03: I do believe that we should walk more because most of our life is spent sitting.
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  SPEAKER_03: And walking has therapeutic benefits for circulation, for our mental emotional health, for just being able to get connected outside.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I think everybody should walk every day.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and it doesn't have to be crazy.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's pretty cheap.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't have to pay for a gym membership or a personal trainer.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we started with walking.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's great.
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  SPEAKER_03: I would tell them at least two days of strength training a week.
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  SPEAKER_03: And, you know, for for somebody who is newer, they're gonna get decent results off of that.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_02: I you know, with strength training, it's funny, you know, a lot of times we joke about legs and doing leg day and whatnot.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_02: But I really feel like if you only had one opportunity to weightlift, like you should almost only do legs before you do chest and back and biceps.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I mean you can do a full body routine, but your legs have to carry you through your life, or hopefully they they carry you through life.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so that's probably the most important thing.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_03: They're very large muscle groups uh from how our bodies use utilize energy to our fat stores.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_03: And I think um, especially men with the bro splits, like the chest and back and bodies and all the that, um, it's more the the show muscles.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_03: I want them to look pretty, but then they neglect their legs.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, sure.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: So and legs are connected to the back, right?
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: So a lot of back pain is derived from weak hamstrings, right?
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_03: I uh no, I would say a lot of back pain comes from just weakness in general.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_03: Sitting too much, um, not necessarily having a good glute structure because our glutes in my mind are kind of like an anchor.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um but I a lot of people with back pain, they've just they're so afraid of feeling their back.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_03: And we have a lot of muscles at our backs.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um so I I I do believe that working it, continuing to keep our back strong, uh, it's it's important.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: Sure, sure.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: And and also I'm guessing what's on the front might impact it.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um yes.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_03: Uh most people, whenever we're walking around or we look at somebody's composition, um, people who have a higher level of visceral fat, which is the fat that surrounds your organs, um, the people with higher levels of visceral fat are the ones who are at higher risk for cardiovascular disease.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_03: So higher risk for heart attack, high blood pressure, stroke.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: So And what what's your you so we talk a lot about what you do in the gym and what you advise.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: What about what people eat?
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: And uh how do you advise them there?
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um So food trends go in cycles.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_03: You know, there was the low-fat revolution, you're not supposed to eat butter, they invented margarine, and you see these trends, and these cycles go in and out.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_03: And then it was high fructose corn syrup is bad, corn doesn't have any nutritional value, don't eat this, don't eat this.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_03: There's so much fear around food.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: And then it's just so much information and a lot of misinformation that people get confused.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_03: And I would rather people eat.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I think that people recently, you know, the they're overly fixated on protein, they're not getting enough fiber, and then now we're seeing a higher rate of rectal colon cancer in people under the age of 30.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's horrifying to me.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there's there's numbers we can.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_03: Because they don't start screening us until we're 45.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yes, yeah.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_03: So I tell people, you know, aim for like six cups of fruits and veggies a day.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_03: Mix in some beans, have good fiber.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_03: Women should get around 30 grams.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: And now, granted, unless there's some medical condition that they can't digest it, right?
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: Like people with IBS type stuff, but women should be around 30 grams of protein or fiber, men should be around 40.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_03: And then from the protein side, there's there's a range, and depending on what your activity level is like.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: I think what I mean, one thing I've I've heard and uh live by now is trying to eat things with basically one ingredient, which simplifies life, right?
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, basically not processed food, if you can as much as possible.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, as much as possible, and understanding that um depending on your socioeconomic status, and then if you are in a hurry, what skipping a meal, and then all of a sudden you're at home and then you're starving, because people will hyperfixate on things like seed oils, but then they still drink alcohol at night.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: Which confuses me.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: But well, you mentioned economic though.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like yesterday morning, I I made three eggs with ground beef.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I was thinking to myself, this whole meal probably costs four to five dollars maximum.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: That's not a lot of money.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's cheaper than anything else you would bother.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_03: When I talk about socioeconomic, it depends on what they have access to in grocery stores.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_03: Because if you've ever been to a grocery store in a very low-income area, finding something like better quality beef or eggs, what if they're out of stock?
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_03: Or what if, you know, all they have access to is a box of cereal?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_03: So there's there's there's so many different reasons behind making sure that people, A, have access to food, or how can they have access to better quality food?
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's not that expensive.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_03: And on the other side of it, you've got some kids who are waking up and feeding themselves.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_03: So for those of us who have access to a little bit more, can we make better decisions for our overall health and well-being?
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_03: And I would tell you you need fiber and your breakfast.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: No, I do have fruit.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: I uh I do have fruit, yes.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: I love my blueberries and strawberries, etc.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: And what about um, you know, overall then uh not food fasting?
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: Not food fasting.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um there are some people that it works really well for.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: And then there are some people who are already not eating enough.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_03: And then they expect their bodies to be able to go out and perform.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: On what?
• 22:09
  unknown: Right.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_03: You don't have to.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_03: People talk about, oh, it's going to increase or it's going to put me into autophagy.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: Well, if you're in a caloric deficit, you're already going to have autophagy and cellular repair.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um, if you are exercising, your body is going to repair itself.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_03: Our bodies don't just automatically go, oh, wait, I don't know how to detox myself.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: That's what our liver is for.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: I one one realization I've come to through this, my own journey is snacking, though, really can set you back, even if you're snacking healthily, because doesn't it spike your blood sugar at different times?
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, whenever we eat, our blood sugar is going to go up.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_03: There are some things that might impact it more.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_03: Some people are snackers, some people aren't.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I'm not a snacker.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_03: It my brain doesn't get there depending on how hyperphyxiated I am on something that I need to do for work.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think about food.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_03: And then all of a sudden I'm like, oh, it's I should eat.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's time to eat.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um there are some people who need smaller, more frequent meals because that is their way of being able to calorie control.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, and it depends on what they're snacking on.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_03: So making sure that they have food readily available that's easy for them to grab versus going toward the bars and the trail mixes and all of the stuff that's going to give them more calories.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_03: Because it's still a calories in, calories out game.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, overall.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: And you you touched on a thing called alcohol.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately, I've I've heard it's a bad thing, you know?
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_03: It is one of the only things that is can be linked to every type of cancer.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's amazing.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_03: It is a toxin, it is a poison, and then people use it for socialization, for connection, for all of this.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_03: But we'll we'll hyperfixate on, you know, where we got our strawberries from, but then we're knocking back three or four drinks at night.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: So then it's it's one of those like we can rationalize anything.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, sure.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_03: To fit whatever we want it to.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: Like I could rationalize never walking again if I don't want to.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_03: My hips might hurt, my back might hurt, and it just hurts to move.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_03: But what if movement made me feel better?
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_03: So the alcohol side, um, I would say for people who are drinking a lot, if they would like to change something about their body or they want to sleep better, or they want better blood work, they can just reduce it.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_03: If they want to keep it in their lives.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_03: And then for some people, it works to completely cut it out.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it it is powerful.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: I I did, you know, I had the whoop and you know, I've had different devices where when you just have one or two drinks, it makes your body temperature go higher, make disrupts your sleep in the middle of the night.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_03: And impacts your nervous system.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's amazing.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's not even just getting totally hammered.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_02: It's truly one or two drinks, changes your night's sleep, which then hurts your recovery and so many other things.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_03: So talking about the data, I have a yes, I do.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_03: I'm one of their founding members, and I still in the morning, yeah.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_03: In in the morning, um, because data is cool.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_03: Data gives us information.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_03: It's like taking a look at your bank account and going through your budget.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_03: But what people have started doing is instead of checking in first to see how they feel, they're like, oh, whoops, had my recovery in the red, I can't possibly do this thing today.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_03: Or, you know, it said that my sleep was bad.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_03: But then what if they woke up and they did a uh a body scan and a check and they said, Oh, I feel alert, I feel like I'm confident, I'm capable, I'm able to do all of these things.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_03: They checked in here first instead of looking at the data, then I think that they could make, they could utilize the data to help make better decisions versus it being the thing that decides for them.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: No, I agree.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's the key, right?
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: Is because when I was doing it, I felt certain mornings.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, am I doomed?
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_02: Because whoops says I'm bad, but I think I'm good.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: But but it did give me that feedback loop of drinking does this, eating does that.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_03: That um paying attention to your sleep hygiene schedule.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_03: I think that the wearables can tell you, hey, you've been really consistent about going to bed between 10 and 10:30 every night, and then you're waking up by 6 a.m.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_03: every day.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_03: Like you've got really good consistency around your sleep.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: Or not.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_02: No, for sure.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_02: I think that, and that's another free item is sleep, right?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_02: Is is how how powerful that is.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_03: And it's probably the most important recovery tool.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_03: I may even put it above food.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: Think of that.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: So we got walking and sleep as the as the foundation overall to this.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's uh it's really uh amazing, amazing how simple some of this is.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's so much more simple than we like to make it.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_03: But um, simple doesn't sell.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's not sexy enough.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: Correct, correct.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_03: And if I can go in and I can make everybody afraid of everything, it's very easy for me then to kind of wiggle in and sell them something.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's right.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_02: So when you're doing your training back to the back to the weight room, are you what are you doing?
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: Are you setting monthly goals or are there are there targets for amount of weight to lift or speed?
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: You know, what what do you do with somebody that comes in?
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_03: I ask them what's important to them.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_03: Some people don't care about how much weight they lift, they don't care about the measurables, they care about how they feel in their body, how they look in their clothes, because I can't negate vanity.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody has a certain level of it.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, some people want to know how much they're lifting, they want to track all of the things.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_03: So it really depends on the person.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, some people are not data driven at all.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_03: And it blows my mind because I am.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_03: Being a business owner, it data gives me information that help helps me make more informed decisions.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_03: Same thing, data from my workouts.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh not everybody does.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_03: So the it the answer to that is still a very boring one.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_03: It depends.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's well, that's good.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you're client focused, right?
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_02: Overall.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_02: And uh overall, I just want to hit you with a few um big picture questions.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_02: Uh sauna.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, no, maybe.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it could benefit people.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I mean, you could go for a walk outside in the hot of the day and probably still get some cheaper.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I I think in general, we as a society like being comfortable.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_03: And then we say, oh, well, this thing is gonna be the thing that's gonna help me get to whatever.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: Or if it feels good, do it.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I mean, pro, not pro.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_03: I'm kind of neutral on it.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um I've gone on and off the deciding if I want to buy one for myself, but I also spend a lot of time outside.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: And so I don't feel like I need to make myself more heat tolerant.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, it's gonna be 97 degrees here, too.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_02: So I think we're pretty good.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean, like for me personally, I like I have a sauna at home.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: I just like it.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_02: I like the way I feel, yeah, and I like the way it I sleep after it.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: So that's like me taking, I take a really hot shower before bed.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_03: It helps my nervous system calm down so that I can sleep better.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: So similar, similar thing.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_03: And what does it do for your brain?
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_03: Does it does it does it cool the noodle down a little bit so that you can stop thinking?
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_02: And how about the flip side?
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh cold plunge.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_03: I personally hate being cold.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_03: All right, yeah.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_03: It feels like being tortured.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_03: And and having nerve damage, it actually is very uncomfortable.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_03: But um there are some people who greatly benefit from it.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um just I again, that's kind of if you like it, have at it.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, if it makes you focus on your breathing and it calms your nervous system down, awesome.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's benefiting you.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_03: Me personally, all right.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_03: I've tried it.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: No, yeah.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: It is torture.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I was doing it on a regular basis, and every morning it felt like groundhog day.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: I it's almost like you don't get used to it, you don't get better at it.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's and then you dread it.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_03: Like if I were going to do it, I would be like, no.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_03: You know, or I would just have to jump in.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_02: It is a nice way to self-torture.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe there's something to gain from that.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_03: If you like that sort of thing.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_02: What about like red light therapies?
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm still a little undecided because whenever they talk about it, activating your mitochondria and all of this other stuff.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I don't really think that there's enough information.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_03: And I think it's kind of a newer, hotter thing.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_03: I think that there are some ways that it can benefit people from like the medical side because it's been being used for, you know, skin treatments, different things over the years.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that it's been effective there, but all of the products that are coming out, people buy what's popular.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_03: And again, it's one of those like, is it worth the money that you spend on it?
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: And is it the right frequency?
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_03: Is it is it even the right just because it's red doesn't mean it's and is it and is it right for the person using it?
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: But again, if you can make somebody insecure about something that they already have going on, it's really easy to sell them something.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_02: And then what about supplements?
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: Any supplements you recommend?
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_03: So the industry and supplementation is a little bit like the Wild West.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_03: Um I would say there are some that are more beneficial than others.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like I take creatine every day.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_03: That one is one that I believe in.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_03: I also use magnesium glycinate at night.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that I find I have less uh neural spasms whenever I take it.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_03: And it's a good thing.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: But you have an injury, right?
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: Is that what you post trying to do?
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_03: So I didn't I didn't start taking magnesium until after the injury because I would be laying in bed at night.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_03: And for whatever reason, I get like neurological cramps and it's like an earthquake, and then all of a sudden my toes do things and it's just most uncomfortable.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I find that magnesium helps me not do that.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: So and what about any of the other uh items that are now coming out?
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_03: Some people have really expensive pee.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's a good point.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, it sounds like if you can't have any shortcuts without walking, sleeping, and eating.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_03: The supplement industry is worth more than Big Pharma.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: And that I mean, that is really unregulated too, the supplement world.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_03: It is.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_03: I could cook up something in my garage.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_03: I could put a label on it, kind of sort of disclose what's in it, but also put like proprietary blend on there, which means that I don't have to disclose everything.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_03: Could be toxic, could be harmful, could be helpful.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_03: We don't know.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_03: But people will buy supplements.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: Peptides, right?
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like the peptide world.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_03: Which is another thing.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_02: Great.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: But there's no not that I think, by the way, I've lost a lot of faith in the FDA, but that's for another day.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: But this the that world isn't even under the guise of anybody.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: There's no idea.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_03: And whenever I get 20 emails a day about offering peptides to my clients and how much money I can make from it, it kind of raises my red flag a little bit, going, wait a second.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_03: How am I qualified to prescribe somebody a peptide?
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_03: How are how is the trainer down the road qualified to give somebody advice on that?
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_03: They're not.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_02: And what's the quality?
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_02: Even if it were Where did it come from?
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_03: Did it come from China?
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_03: Because they're finding lead in some of the ones that are being shipped in.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_03: Which then people are injecting themselves with it?
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_03: Cool.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:43
  unknown: Okay.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, you're right.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: Then there's the injection part.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_02: Because now they've come out with more pills, but they the original ones were injectables too.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_03: The majority of them are.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: So there's uh I would I agree with you.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_03: That's just it's a little, it's a little Wild West-ish.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_03: And I go, okay, let me see.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just gonna kind of wait and see what happens.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, sure.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um but people with the supplements, people will spend money on supplements before they dial in the basics.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_03: Their sleep, their hydration, their exercise, their nutrition.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_03: They just automatically jump on the supplement train before having consistency in anything else.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: No, that and that's the key is those basics, plus maybe removing alcohol.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: But uh we don't want to upset everybody.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: I I mean I can be really controversial.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_03: I I can also be very boring.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, no, but I think you know, what you talked about is the foundation of those simple items are probably 80, 95%.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_03: They're far more important than anything else.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: And water?
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, water.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_03: People walk around like cacti.
• 34:49
  unknown: Yeah.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like when did when did I've had people tell me they drink one, maybe two bottles of water a week.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: A week?
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: And then I kind of sink into myself, this is what happens in my brain.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's like it implodes.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_03: And then I come out, I'm like, okay, control your face.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_03: Then I go, well, I'd like to try to help you increase that a little bit.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, a little bit.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_02: One or two a day would be even better.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_03: Decent.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_02: Better at all.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: So where are you?
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: So as a business owner now, where do you want to take momentum fitness?
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_02: Where do you think it is five or ten years from now?
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um, five or ten years from now, I mean, we hopefully we'll have a few other locations because I feel like our home base is such a well-oiled machine and we have such an amazing impact on the community that we're in.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_03: And that's ultimately my goal.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_03: I I want to make sure that no matter what we do, we're making an impact.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_03: And if we can help people have access to better movement, better health, then in turn, they have access to a better life that's more fulfilling, that brings them more joy.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_03: If somebody can get down and play with their kids or their grandkids and then they can get off the floor and they don't have to worry about getting hurt, then we're doing our jobs.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_03: So if we have a few locations that are helping multiple communities do that, awesome.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_02: No, I think you've made such an impact here in so many people's lives.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like I know so many people that are thankful to you and your and your group, what they've done to help them become healthy and live a good life.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_02: Let's we take it for granted, but when you lose it, yeah, uh, or or you've just let yourself go, you blame other things.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_02: But what you know, all of your clients, you've had a lot of clients for decades, right?
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's that's a testament to well, and it's it's like a time warp because it doesn't feel like that long, and then it's it's that long.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_03: And I go, oh, cool.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's uh yeah, I think it's I know a lot of people, my wife included, who, you know, worked with you 20 years ago almost now, right?
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's been a long run, and I wish you the best.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: But I appreciate you talking with us today about so much that you've done as a leader, as a business owner, an entrepreneur, and a fitness instructor.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_02: So a lot of the a lot of things uh that you're doing.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_02: So uh thanks for all you're doing, Ray.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: Appreciate your time.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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