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- Lucas: There's this number marketers chase — one billion views. It sounds like the mountaintop. But I think it's one of the most misleading benchmarks in video. Luna: One billion views feels like a cultural event. You get that, you've made it, right? Lucas: You've made a headline, sure. But have you made a business impact? Let's use a concrete case. MrBeast's Feastables launch video — the one where he turned a chocolate bar into a giveaway. It crossed 100 million views in its first week back in 2025. Luna: Influencer marketing dream. But you're saying that didn't translate? Lucas: It translated into brand awareness — enormous. Feastables became a household name overnight. But here's the thing: the average CPM for a YouTube video in that genre is around $0.50 to $2.00. So 100 million views might gross $100,000 to $200,000 in ad revenue. That's not nothing, but it's also not a business. MrBeast's real play was the product itself — the views drove store sales. Luna: So views are a means, not an end. But plenty of brands don't have a physical product to sell. They just want eyeballs on a message. Lucas: That's where the 'view deflection rate' comes in. I track this metric — it's the percentage of views that result in a desired action. A click, a sign-up, a purchase. For most organic videos, that rate is under half a percent. For optimized video ads with a clear CTA, it can hit 2 to 5 percent. Luna: So a 10-million-view campaign with a 2 percent deflection gives you 200,000 actions. That's more valuable than 100 million passive views with zero deflection. Lucas: Exactly. And here's the math that changed my thinking: a single action — say, a newsletter sign-up — might be worth $5 to $10 over its lifetime. Two hundred thousand actions could be $1 to $2 million in lifetime value. Compare that to the ad revenue from 100 million views at $1 CPM — $100,000. The deflection-driven campaign wins by a factor of 10 to 20. Luna: But that assumes you have a good CTA and a funnel. What about pure brand awareness? Sometimes you just want people to remember your name. Lucas: Brand awareness is real. But even then, you can measure it with a lift study. The key is to stop optimizing for view count and start optimizing for 'engagement velocity' — how fast people interact with your content relative to the view count. A video with 500,000 views and 50,000 comments has a 10% engagement rate. That's more valuable than a video with 5 million views and 10,000 comments. Luna: Engagement velocity — I like that. It separates the signal from the noise. Lucas: Right. And it forces you to think about who's watching, not just how many. A 1-billion-view video from a cat channel might be worthless to a B2B software company. But a 100,000-view video from a niche tech reviewer with a 5% click-through rate to a demo? That's gold. Luna: So what's the actual benchmark marketers should aim for? Not a view count, but a deflection rate and a target audience size. Lucas: I'd say: for a given campaign, define your 'minimum viable audience' first. How many qualified people do you need to reach? Then calculate the views required based on your expected deflection rate. If you need 10,000 leads and your deflection rate is 2%, you need 500,000 views. Don't worry about hitting a billion views — worry about hitting that 500,000 with the right people. Luna: That's a lot more work than just trying to go viral. But it's more honest. Lucas: And it's more profitable. Let me give you a real number: the average cost per lead from a well-targeted video campaign on LinkedIn is about $30 to $50. From a viral YouTube video with no targeting? Could be $500 or more because you're paying for all those irrelevant views. Luna: Speaking of paying for views — we should talk about the role of paid distribution versus organic virality. Lucas: This is the core tension. Organic virality is free but unpredictable. Paid distribution is predictable but costs money. The smartest video-first strategy I've seen combines both: create content that's designed to be shared, but also boost it to a seed audience that's likely to engage. Luna: And that seed audience should be based on your deflection rate, not just demographics. Lucas: Exactly. You can use a lookalike model from your best-converting customers. Then measure the deflection rate from that seed group. If it's above 3%, you scale the budget. If it's below 1%, you go back to the creative. Luna: One billion views as a vanity metric — it's like chasing a mirage. You get there and you're still thirsty. Lucas: Right. And the thirst is for actual business outcomes. I'd rather have 10 million views that generate $500,000 in revenue than 1 billion views that generate $50,000. Luna: That's a clear trade-off. So what does a good deflection-optimized video look like? Lucas: It starts with the hook — but not a generic 'you won't believe this' hook. It's a hook that targets a specific pain point. 'Struggling to get your video views to convert?' Then the body delivers value. And the CTA is direct, not buried. 'Click the link in the description to get our free guide.' No vague 'subscribe for more.' Luna: And you measure the deflection rate from that CTA. Not just views. Lucas: Exactly. And you run A/B tests on the hook, the CTA placement, the thumbnail. Each test tells you what moves the deflection needle. Over time, you build a library of what works for your audience. Luna: This is so different from the approach most brands take. They're still obsessed with the view counter. Lucas: Because the view counter is ego. Deflection rate is business. And if you're in marketing, you're supposed to be building business, not ego. Luna: I think that's a perfect note to end on. But first — you know, this conversation reminded me of something. A lot of the tools and strategies we talk about on this show, they come from our own trial and error. And the reason we can keep the show ad-free is because listeners who find value sometimes choose to support us. Lucas: Yeah, it's true. We don't run ads, and we want to keep it that way. So if this episode gave you a concrete idea you're going to test, and you'd like to help keep the lights on, you can buy us a coffee — literally. It's at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Luna: No pressure, no guilt. But it does help us keep doing deep dives like this. Lucas: Exactly. And back to the metric that matters: try tracking deflection rate on your next video. Even if your views are modest, you might be surprised how many actions you get. Luna: Alright, I'm going to do that with our own next video. Thanks, Lucas. Lucas: Thanks, Luna. See you next time.