S7E13 | What the Wizard of Oz Teaches About Real Leadership

Modern Lending Podcast · Aug 29, 2025 · 14m

🎯 What You’ll Learn:

• The difference between “performing leadership” vs. actually leading

• Why trying to look perfect is repelling people

• What the Wizard of Oz can teach us about courage and transparency

• Why real leadership is presence, not perfection

• How Alec learned to lead without the smoke and mirrors

⏱️ Chapters:

00:00 – Intro: What The Wizard of Oz Got Right

02:00 – Performance vs. Presence in Leadership

04:15 – Why People Follow Vulnerability Over Perfection

06:30 – The Pressure to “Have It All Together”

08:45 – Real-World Examples from Sales + Management

11:30 – The…