Latest / Wits & Weights | Strength & Fat Loss Over 40 / Weekend Q&A: Preserving Muscle Mass After Injury or Illness and Increasing Your Metabolism
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- 0:00Philip Pape: When you're forced to take a break from training due to injury or illness.
- 0:03Philip Pape: How long does it take before muscle loss begins to occur?
- 0:06Philip Pape: And how do I get more muscle to increase my metabolism?
- 0:11Philip Pape: Find out on today's weekend Q&A bonus episode.
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- 1:50Philip Pape: When you have to take a break from training due to injury or illness and she had a recent injury, I won't divulge details out of privacy unless she wants to share, but it limits her with certain movements.
- 1:57Philip Pape: In the short term, how long does it take before muscle loss begins to occur?
- 2:02Philip Pape: So we don't want to freak out about breaks in our training because it takes probably two to three weeks before you even begin to experience any muscle loss at all.
- 2:14Philip Pape: And that's if you're not doing anything.
- 2:16Philip Pape: And also, you know, if protein isn't very high and you're probably you're keeping the protein high, right?
- 2:23Philip Pape: If you listen to my show, if you're in this community, you know we want to go for 0.7 to one grams per pound of body weight in protein.
- 2:31Philip Pape: So if you're keeping the protein high, that helps a lot.
- 2:33Philip Pape: And then, if you're able to, you know, keep walking.
- 2:36Philip Pape: That helps as well with recovery.
- 2:38Philip Pape: If you're able to keep eating, at least at maintenance and Carol was in a very lean gaining phase and I suggested we bring her back to maintenance for now because you don't want to over consume when you're not able to use that nutrition to build muscle.
- 2:52Philip Pape: She's just trying to hold onto that muscle.
- 2:54Philip Pape: So if you're able to do some level of resistance training, even if it's like a quarter of the volume of normal, and that's after like a week or two break to just totally rest and let the injury heal, you're probably not going to lose anything.
- 3:07Philip Pape: To be honest, if you have to ease back in because of the injury, the areas of your body and the muscle groups that you're not able to train at all will get a little bit detrained.
- 3:18Philip Pape: But there is this cross-training effect.
- 3:20Philip Pape: We've seen I noticed it personally when I went through my shoulder surgery last year where if you're just able to train other parts of your body, there's just a little bit of a crossover that maintains more of the muscle mass in even the parts you're not using, especially if it's like an opposite limb type of thing.
- 3:37Philip Pape: Of course, if you could only work legs or only work upper body, there may be a little bit of detraining.
- 3:42Philip Pape: But I would say, to answer your exact question, it would start occurring around two or three weeks for most people.
- 3:48Philip Pape: But again, it's going to take a long time to actually lose a decent amount of muscle and if you're not in a deficit, it's going to really coast for a while.
- 3:56Philip Pape: Right, you're definitely going to lose some strength, potentially because of the lack of the neuromuscular adaptation, because you're not doing those movements.
- 4:04Philip Pape: But that's fine, that'll come back quickly.
- 4:05Philip Pape: So, yeah, I would say two to three weeks it starts.
- 4:07Philip Pape: Keep the protein high, don't be in a diet when you're recovering, and that process will take a lot longer than you think.
- 4:13Philip Pape: So that's a good thing, all right.
- 4:15Philip Pape: Second question, the second question today from Denise.
- 4:18Philip Pape: I've been weight training three years.
- 4:20Philip Pape: I've lost approximately 25 pounds.
- 4:23Philip Pape: By the way, thank you for all the numbers.
- 4:29Philip Pape: This is helpful.
- 4:30Philip Pape: Based on four in-body scans, I've only gained one pound of muscle.
- 4:34Philip Pape: I train four days a week.
- 4:35Philip Pape: I eat approximately 14 to 1500 calories a day.
- 4:38Philip Pape: Protein ranges from 90 to 140 grams daily.
- 4:41Philip Pape: How do I get more muscle to increase my daily expenditure?
- 4:44Philip Pape: Great question, denise, and I can give you some simple guidelines for this.
- 4:50Philip Pape: Before I do, a couple of comments on your question itself.
- 4:53Philip Pape: When you say you've lost 25 pounds, that implies to me that the 1,400 to 1,500 calories you're eating has had you in a deficit.
- 5:01Philip Pape: So I want to make that assumption.
- 5:02Philip Pape: I don't know that's true, but I'm going to assume that that's the case.
- 5:05Philip Pape: You've also said you've had in-body scans that showed you gained a pound of muscle.
- 5:09Philip Pape: Nobody's gonna be surprised who followed me a while.
- 5:12Philip Pape: But I don't trust those scans at all.
- 5:15Philip Pape: I do like those things for trend numbers, meaning if you have multiple in-body scans over time under the same conditions, same time of day, same amount of clothing, same amount of food and water, like usually in the morning, right when you haven't eaten, you haven't drunk anything, although with InBody they suggest having a little tiny bit of water, like a few hours before, so you're not fully dehydrated.
- 5:41Philip Pape: Anyway, if you do one of the same conditions, the body fat percentage and how it changes is somewhat reliable, meaning that not the number but the trend over time, like if it's going up or down.
- 5:53Philip Pape: That's a good indicator of what's happening.
- 5:55Philip Pape: But I don't necessarily trust the number itself and therefore you can't trust the absolute pounds of muscle or fat that it's telling you.
- 6:03Philip Pape: Having said that, if you've been dieting for a while, there's a good and you're past your newbie gains, like if you're actually training hard, and I don't know what your training looks like, denise.
- 6:13Philip Pape: So that's another thing I would have to break down with you is are you lifting heavy with progressive overload?
- 6:18Philip Pape: Are you following a program that increases, you know, stimulus over time, usually the weight right, but it could also be sets and reps?
- 6:26Philip Pape: Are you doing that like just getting stronger and building muscle, stronger and building muscle?
- 6:36Philip Pape: If you're doing that and you're past that new the first three to six month newbie gains, it makes sense that you're not going to gain a lot of muscle if you're dieting.
- 6:40Philip Pape: So how do you get more muscle to increase your daily expenditure?
- 6:44Philip Pape: Before I actually answer the question, I mentioned before I recorded these answers in case people are listening to this on the podcast that you can go to witsandweightscom, click podcast, scroll down to the podcast finder and you can search for a topic you're interested in and look at previous episodes.
- 7:00Philip Pape: So in this case, if you'd search build muscle, you'll see episode 108, how to build muscle without getting fat.
- 7:07Philip Pape: Episode 130, the hard gainers guide, episode 69, which is one of the most popular what to do first lose fat, build muscle or body recomposition and so I would say, like episode 69 is a really good one, because it gives you seven scenarios that you're starting from and what direction you should go, and then how to do it.
- 7:29Philip Pape: It gives you some prescriptive numbers and protocols to consider.
- 7:33Philip Pape: But so in your case, what that's going to look like to build muscle is rule number one you can't be dieting.
- 7:38Philip Pape: You want to be in a surplus.
- 7:40Philip Pape: You want to be gaining weight intentionally, and it's not a lot of weight we are talking about.
- 7:45Philip Pape: For you, as a female, 66 years old, I would say 0.1% of your body weight per week, and if we're going to do some quick calculations on that, you weigh 152 pounds.
- 7:57Philip Pape: So 0.1% is going to be 0.15 pounds per week.
- 8:03Philip Pape: If you extrapolate that to six months, which is the minimum length I want you building muscle that's 26 weeks that's going to come out to a gain on the scale of four pounds.
- 8:14Philip Pape: Yes, like that's nothing.
- 8:15Philip Pape: You know four pounds is nothing, right?
- 8:16Philip Pape: You're 152, you get to 156.
- 8:18Philip Pape: You might even go a little more aggressive if you want to try to build a little extra muscle, if you still have a lot of potential to do that.
- 8:25Philip Pape: So four pounds over six months less than a pound a month.
- 8:29Philip Pape: You might even round that up to a pound a month and then you gain six pounds.
- 8:32Philip Pape: Either way, you go into a surplus and then you can determine your calories and macros from that.
- 8:39Philip Pape: And if you're not doing it already, denise, definitely go download Macrofactor.
- 8:42Philip Pape: We talk about it all the time here.
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- 8:56Philip Pape: When you do that, I don't know what your calories are going to be, because I don't know your expenditure.
- 9:03Philip Pape: But now I want to address your actual question how do I get more muscle to increase my daily expenditure?
- 9:08Philip Pape: I don't think that should be the reason we want more muscle, and you and others may be surprised hearing me say that.
- 9:14Philip Pape: But yes, having more muscle increases your basal metabolic rate, your BMR, a tiny bit.
- 9:20Philip Pape: It increases it a tiny bit Now.
- 9:21Philip Pape: It increases it a little bit more in the sense that it makes you bigger, stronger, you can push more around, you could be more active, and then it all cascades.
- 9:28Philip Pape: So I love that as kind of a piece of why you're building muscle.
- 9:33Philip Pape: But the main reason you want to build muscle is, in your case, probably for for function, for strength, for capability, maybe for physique, I don't know.
- 9:41Philip Pape: You're 66.
- 9:42Philip Pape: So I usually think of, like you know, you want to be strong and capable and injury free.
- 9:46Philip Pape: You don't want to have to be, you know, fall and get fractured and all those things well into your.
- 9:52Philip Pape: You know eighties and nineties.
- 9:53Philip Pape: So if that, so that's the first thing I would say is like you're not doing it to increase your expenditure, even though that might be a side benefit.
- 10:01Philip Pape: However, if you go into a slight gain, like I suggested, your expenditure should start to rise.
- 10:06Philip Pape: Right, Even going to maintenance, your expenditure should rise because it's going to recover to what your body needs to balance everything out.
- 10:12Philip Pape: At homeostasis gaining phase, your body will.
- 10:19Philip Pape: You'll get a little bit heavier, a tiny bit heavier.
- 10:20Philip Pape: You're not going to gain much weight, actual weight, but the fact that you're telling your body that you've got tons of nutrition coming in, it's going to relax.
- 10:25Philip Pape: You're going to burn more calories.
- 10:26Philip Pape: As a result, you're going to become less efficient, which is good for building muscle.
- 10:29Philip Pape: You're less efficient, you're going to burn more and your calorie intake will actually start to go up even more.
- 10:35Philip Pape: So the first jump in calories is going to come from just going into a surplus and then your expenditure will also increase.
- 10:43Philip Pape: From that point and you can do it for a good six months gain four to six pounds on the scale, half of which is muscle, and that's amazing.
- 10:50Philip Pape: And then you can do a quick little mini cut to cut off the fat after that.
- 10:53Philip Pape: So that's it in a nutshell.
- 10:56Philip Pape: There's a lot more details under that in terms of you know, if you were working with me as a client, we would have a whole plan for your movement and step count, we would look at your training, we would look at your meal timing, your supplementation, all that good stuff, and for that you could always reach out to me.
- 11:11Philip Pape: We can set up a call or chat by email or messenger on those details, everything.
- 11:16Philip Pape: I'm totally open and transparent about how it works and the process we go through and the price and all that good stuff.
- 11:22Philip Pape: But that is the answer to your question to get more muscle.
- 11:29Philip Pape: That's it for today's weekend Q&A bonus episode.
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