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Sneeze Limits, St. Patrick, and Good Graces · Talk About That

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  Speaker 1: Life Audio.
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  Speaker 2: Today, I'll talk about that John wishes his girls would
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  Speaker 2: get ready faster and writes a children's book about a fish. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: I think March has the most violent holidays, and reveal
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  Speaker 2: why I never really.
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  Speaker 1: Liked the Power Team.
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  Speaker 3: Pl us a conversation about how we think God sees
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  Speaker 3: us and why it really matters. Today's episode is not
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  Speaker 3: sponsored by Android phones turning your text threads green since
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  Speaker 3: two thousand and eight. But first a word from our
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  Speaker 3: actual sponsor.
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  Speaker 2: Episode four hundred of talk about that. Jana Bey said
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  Speaker 2: it couldn't be done.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody said that. People have been really supportive. Yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody gets more fan mail than somebody else. Probably we
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  Speaker 2: got a couple to this week. We need to read them.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't get We got a couple of things. Uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we can find John. You effort that, Yeah, anyone is that?
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  Speaker 3: Now you're efforting That's what we say. Now we're efforting that.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard that on the Dan Patrick Show when they're
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  Speaker 3: talking about trying to get a guest, we're efforting him.
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  Speaker 2: I like that. Uh. We did hear from Becca Jones
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  Speaker 2: who said asked if every thought about writing a children's book?
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  Speaker 2: You know, Becka, I have written a children's book with Ai. No, no,
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  Speaker 2: it was long before the days of Ai.
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  Speaker 1: You will.
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  Speaker 2: Send me your address and I'm going to mail you
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  Speaker 2: one was it was never it was never published, per se.
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  Speaker 1: It was made. It was made.
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  Speaker 2: We made it and used it here at the church.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like doctor Sussian style. It's called a little
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  Speaker 2: fish named Nelly. Yeah, and it rhymes the whole way through.
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  Speaker 2: So and hey, I will say this, Becca, it's got
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  Speaker 2: a big surprise.
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  Speaker 1: At the end.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I think you're gonna you're not going to see
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  Speaker 3: it coming. I think it's great. Yeah, it is a
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  Speaker 3: good book.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Every time I've read to a few publishers,
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  Speaker 2: we've been close a couple of times.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The last one say it was too didactic. Okay, they
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  Speaker 2: thought I taught too much of a lesson. It was
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  Speaker 2: like it's a children's too obvious. No, that was obvious.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I had it at the end. So that's the
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  Speaker 2: true story of a fish name Nelly. Wh blah blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh but that would you adjust it now and you'd
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  Speaker 1: be like less uh didacting? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: No, I think I think you really like saying that.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think that the publisher was wrong. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe I've never really publisher for not wanting
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  Speaker 2: to publish on my books.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I don't have to. They get the business whoever
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  Speaker 1: they want to.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, and they're probably right that I can't whatever
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  Speaker 2: you know, sell a million copies or whatever. But do
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  Speaker 2: I think they're always right about their feedback? Even my
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  Speaker 2: agent thought they were wrong on that feedback.
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  Speaker 3: So well, I mean, your agent's in your employee to
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  Speaker 3: pump you up and lie to you.
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  Speaker 1: You think, yeah, hey, uh no, that's wrong. You're the greatest.
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  Speaker 1: They just don't know you're only paid ten percent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, thank you Bega for that. Also, Johnny, they're
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  Speaker 2: coming to your Funny Bumm show in Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that'll be great. That's gonna be a good one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's her husband's birthday. I'm excited about that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The Funny Bone. I've been doing a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: Funny Bones. We've talked about comedy club names. That's one
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  Speaker 3: of the ones that's endured. Funny There used to be
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  Speaker 3: like a hundred funny Bones.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's like twenty or twenty lost skeleton like
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them just have like a blue text logo.
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  Speaker 3: Some of them have like a funny little looks like
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  Speaker 3: a little he's wearing a top hat.
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  Speaker 1: He looks more like a kidney bean. What is it?
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  Speaker 3: It's like an elbow, I guess, so it's like a
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he's an elbow, but he looks like a I
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  Speaker 3: could show it to you.
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  Speaker 1: We'll put it. I'll have Adam drop it in the
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  Speaker 1: kidney bean. With that, however, one.
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  Speaker 3: Of our our guy who posts these, Adam Bush, I'll
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  Speaker 3: have him post the photo of the funny moon top.
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  Speaker 1: Petty's tipping them. Sounds like the Planter's peanut guy. He is.
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  Speaker 3: He does look a little, but I think he's a
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  Speaker 3: I think he's kidney bean shape because it's the joint
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  Speaker 3: of your elbow.
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  Speaker 1: Now that I think about it.
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  Speaker 2: See that's being too literal to the name. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think we're literally having to hit the funny bone.
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  Speaker 2: And does any other nerves or place in your body
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  Speaker 2: do what the funny bone.
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  Speaker 3: In your I wonder what the first person hit his
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  Speaker 3: funny moone thought was happening.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, I'm dying. Yeah, this is it my arm
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  Speaker 2: is now completely useless to me for a few seconds. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of like an ice cream headache. They probably
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  Speaker 2: thought of sometimes some religious implication too. They probably thought
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  Speaker 2: it was like God's punishing this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, our crops are going to die now because of
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  Speaker 3: the Yeah, have you ever I mean a brain freeze?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if you didn't know, I mean, I've had.
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  Speaker 2: Some brains, would think you would think, yeah, yah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: a stroke because it hurts really, really bad, and then
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  Speaker 2: you go, I mightna have one more bite.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's funny that it's not enough to stop it,
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  Speaker 1: to slow down, but I can't. Yeah, it's too good.
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  Speaker 2: Our longtime listener Collect Groves also email said, Johnny, you're
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  Speaker 2: correct that March fourteenth is a thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's Pie Day three points oh, because I thought it was.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was Saint Patrick's maybe, and you were like,
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  Speaker 3: are you an idiot?
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  Speaker 1: Patrick's She was. She was trying to defend me, even
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  Speaker 1: though there's a lot happening in March.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, you get Pie Day followed by the
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  Speaker 2: IDEs of March, Yeah, followed by Saint Patrick's Day?
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  Speaker 1: Did you wear green?
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  Speaker 2: It is you're either stabbing a pie or you're stabbing Caesar.
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  Speaker 2: All right, come on, guys, come on, now you're stabbing something.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna say you're stabbing an irishman or something, but
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  Speaker 2: that you're pinching, you're stabbing, You're you're forking a pie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a lot going on going on. Although she also
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  Speaker 2: wished to safe dwelling.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's nice. So yeah, she's happy. And then she
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  Speaker 3: came back and said, I I'm meant to stay safe.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that because I wanted to catch on. I
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  Speaker 2: think safe dwelling. I'm gonna start signing off emails soon
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  Speaker 2: offecially Yeah, John driver dot com. It sounds like a
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  Speaker 2: Mark Twain kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It sounds like a bunker.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like you're in some kind of a you know,
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  Speaker 2: you've gone down to the cellar.
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  Speaker 1: You've seen these videos on Instagram where they're all.
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  Speaker 2: Sped up like this guy takes It would take weeks,
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  Speaker 2: but the guy takes like a back hoe, digs out
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  Speaker 2: a hole and then drops a just has a crane
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  Speaker 2: drop like a shipping container, and then you see him
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  Speaker 2: really fast. He just you know, takes it takes some
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  Speaker 2: sort of grinder cuts off the top of it, gets inside,
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  Speaker 2: the camera comes inside.
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  Speaker 1: He puts down studs.
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  Speaker 2: And builds a wall, makes this whole underground thing with
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  Speaker 2: a tunnel.
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  Speaker 1: To go through. Have you seen that?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: But I know people are doing that, and I wonder
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  Speaker 3: like is it for real? Like how do you ventilate it?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: What are we? Well, it feels like that's a coffin.
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  Speaker 2: You've made yourself a coffin. It has a thing you
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  Speaker 2: have to crawl down into him, assuming ventilation comes because
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  Speaker 2: it's to the top.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Another one that guy did underneath his pool, put on
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  Speaker 2: glass and so you could swim over the top. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: now like that, I think that might have been AI.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you hate it that you can't just like anymore?
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  Speaker 2: Especially dog videos. Pet videos almost always are AI.
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  Speaker 3: Now you're like, oh, that dog seems so human. You're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's because it's a prompt.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen the one where the dog is always
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  Speaker 2: saving the baby from an alligator or a grizzly bear
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  Speaker 2: in the backyard.
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  Speaker 1: Hm hmm, it's AI. Well, it has to be how
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  Speaker 1: many of those in a row?
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  Speaker 2: It's always it's always like, I don't know way fully
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  Speaker 2: that's got tone it's like the dog loving the baby
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But it's a grizzly.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, these parents, you're leaving this lay, this
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  Speaker 2: month old just out in the yard next to the woods,
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  Speaker 2: and alligators don't come out of the woods generally.
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  Speaker 1: It's very Yeah, it's not. But the dog. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know a lot about nature. Dog always saves the baby.
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  Speaker 1: But I've never been high king. It have been like
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  Speaker 1: watch for Gators.
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  Speaker 2: How long until the algorithm just starts building its own videos?
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, maybe it's already doing it. That's what we
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  Speaker 1: h Yeah, instead of someone else doing it. Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: If you're watching our video, you know it's not AI.
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  Speaker 1: No way we would make ourselves. We would soup it
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  Speaker 1: up more.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have such authenticity. That'll be the way. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's like a grizzly coming into the room and mauling me.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna start going down to like seven twenty three
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  Speaker 2: sixty and start to start getting lesser videos so people
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  Speaker 2: will think that they're not AI or no.
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  Speaker 1: The graininess is going to tell you what you need
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  Speaker 1: to know. We'll be using VHS tapes again.
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  Speaker 3: Then AI learned that and it's like, oh, so the
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  Speaker 3: graininess will fool them.
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  Speaker 1: It's already doing that.
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  Speaker 3: Remember in video was like tracking, So that was the
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  Speaker 3: thing in VHS world where you had the lines across
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  Speaker 3: the thing, just the tracking.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, remember that, I do. We're so old, We're
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  Speaker 1: so old.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay, John, I want to propose a question to
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  Speaker 3: you because I think it's important, okay, before we go
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  Speaker 3: to the break, and that is I saw an article
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  Speaker 3: and I thought this can't be real, and it ended
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  Speaker 3: up being a satire paper. But it was about how
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  Speaker 3: if you sneeze more than twice, you're basically an unstable person.
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  Speaker 3: You're doing it for attention. This person was like saying, like,
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  Speaker 3: I've never sneezed more.
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  Speaker 2: That's enough to clear whatever is in your Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: nasal passages.
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  Speaker 3: And Curry goes, no, there's an article about it. There
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  Speaker 3: was a study and then I read and I go, Kray,
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  Speaker 3: this is satire. But it was very easy. She was saying,
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  Speaker 3: well he was, you know, and I said, well, okay,
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  Speaker 3: sure this person wrote this. That's the thing, like, I
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  Speaker 3: think we're losing the ability as a culture to understand
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  Speaker 3: what is satire because we want to be enraged so much.
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  Speaker 1: Curry wasn't Curry. I'm on your side here. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what he's talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Curry wanted me to make sure and say that she
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  Speaker 3: was not fooled by this thing. But she was just saying, no,
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  Speaker 3: it is an article, and I go, no, I give
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  Speaker 3: you it was an article.
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  Speaker 2: But I just think the article was written while you
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  Speaker 2: were berating your wife. Yeah, tell me what was going
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  Speaker 2: through your head at the time. Five sneezes in a row.
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  Speaker 3: Evidently because I was defensive immediately, because I'm definitely a
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  Speaker 3: series sneezer.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it takes me eight. Yeah, it's quite time. But
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  Speaker 2: they're not real sneezes. They're like and they're not letting
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  Speaker 2: them out. That's the problem.
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  Speaker 3: Then usually by the end, I go, I have to
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  Speaker 3: throw in one of those, like a quick.
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  Speaker 1: It clears the yeah, because you just go, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: get more air.
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  Speaker 2: See people like you that kind of hold in the
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  Speaker 2: sneeze though, that's not a sneeze to me. Everyone in
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  Speaker 2: the house, here's it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm a screen sneezer.
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  Speaker 3: Well, how many do you think, Like, if you're on
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  Speaker 3: a plane, how many do you look over and.
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  Speaker 1: Go all right?
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  Speaker 2: That was enough? That's why to me, I put in headphones. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so so you don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You just feel droplets landing on you, and that's when
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  Speaker 3: you know. But it's enough when there's flotsam and jets
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  Speaker 3: coming your way.
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  Speaker 1: I will say this, My wife has been yawning very
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  Speaker 1: loudly lately. You allowed to screaming on her. She was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: she's really tired. It's like so, it's like a cowardly lion.
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  Speaker 1: It's very put him up, put him up. It's a
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  Speaker 1: very oh. I always know.
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  Speaker 3: She's really those old fifties movies where the guy ans
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  Speaker 3: the phony and.
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  Speaker 1: Go, yes, I like that guy. I don't know who
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  Speaker 1: that guy was, but yeah, yeah, I like that guy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a yawn like that where you just go
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  Speaker 3: that is probably for attention. I don't think it's a
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  Speaker 3: social cue.
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  Speaker 1: There.
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  Speaker 2: See again you now you're coming at your wife, and
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  Speaker 2: my wife like, hey, Laura, I love the yawn.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's cute.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you keep doing it for the rest of
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  Speaker 2: our lives, which I hope you'll stay married.
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  Speaker 1: To me a lot longer.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I'm twenty six years in almost Yeah, there's no
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  Speaker 2: going back now, No there's not like she's gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to just stick this out.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, I mean, what are you going to start?
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  Speaker 2: She could find another guy, get him ready to whittle
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  Speaker 2: down his personality to whatever she's done to you.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way. It's too much of a project.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say, I feel my personality is improved because of her.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think I do think it took her
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  Speaker 1: some time.
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  Speaker 3: It's been whittled. Uh, that's okay, you're a wittleman. Let
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  Speaker 3: me say this, John, you're uh. Let's take a minute though.
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  Speaker 1: First. I got a whole lot to get into here,
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  Speaker 1: not your personality.
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  Speaker 2: But first, let's take a minute in here from a
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  Speaker 2: few of our find sponsors.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, do your worst.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let me just say, first of all, you're doing
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  Speaker 3: boll ball this weekend, right, I have a tournament in
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  Speaker 3: Saint Louis, Indianapolis, Indianapolis. Okay, well that's a good place
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  Speaker 3: to go or stuff to do that. But do you
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  Speaker 3: all even have time now? Y'all don't get to see anything.
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  Speaker 3: It's just volleyball from noon to night.
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  Speaker 1: I think we would be on the court like seven am.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, on the court, which means you have
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  Speaker 2: to leave the UPO.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the other day.
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  Speaker 2: We were in Eastern time zone as times sprung forward,
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  Speaker 2: so we lost two hours. Do the girls still get
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  Speaker 2: up and like get ready, like they're going out out
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  Speaker 2: even though they're going to get sweaty? Or she she
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  Speaker 2: did just pull her hair back and go no, wow,
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  Speaker 2: she does make make makeup. Yeah, she has a hair
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  Speaker 2: routine for volleyball, but it's still Yeah, it has to
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  Speaker 2: be pulled back. Yes, it's not like she's just curling it.
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  Speaker 3: Does any Are there any volleyball players in history that
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  Speaker 3: have worn their hair down? I would want to see
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  Speaker 3: this just watching it, just toss. I don't know either
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  Speaker 3: and thither maybe some have short hair. If you had
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  Speaker 3: short hair, yeah, baby, but I want to see that.
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  Speaker 3: I want to see like the wild it'd be like
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  Speaker 3: a head banging because the volleyball is a lot of movement.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, there's a lot going on, but they
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 1: I see, I could be out the door.
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  Speaker 2: It's frustrating, I'm sure for everyone else because I could
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  Speaker 2: be ready and you know, three.
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  Speaker 1: Minutes for Yeah. Yeah, I can get ready pretty quick.
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  Speaker 1: But no, listen, my daughter is not the fastest at
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  Speaker 1: getting ready.
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  Speaker 2: She's even top five though she's not going to make
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  Speaker 2: regionals volleyball. They might, but not not in getting ready fast.
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  Speaker 2: So what I mean, let's talk about it. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: trying to get battle the sexes here, but women take
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  Speaker 2: longer to get ready. But I will say I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to defend here. There is an expectation of beauty on
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  Speaker 2: women that men don't share. And so like, if we go, God,
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  Speaker 2: if you would just be get ready quicker, but then
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  Speaker 2: would we be the same guys that are.
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  Speaker 1: Like Jesus, put some effort in. I would not be
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  Speaker 1: that guy. That's what I'm saying. You would just be
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  Speaker 1: great with it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if your wife just came out in sweats and
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  Speaker 3: no makeup, you'd be like, you're ready, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go okay, Because I'm just.
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  Speaker 2: Saying like I'm trying to defend the women here and
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  Speaker 2: say it's harder for them. There's an expectation of like
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  Speaker 2: there's a standard that's put on them that's not put
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  Speaker 2: on men. We can be sloves, we can be I
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  Speaker 2: can put on a ball cap, but if Laura wore
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  Speaker 2: a ball cap everywhere, eventually you'd.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Be like, babe, you've let yourself go. I wouldn't do that.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't. No, Okay, I'm not going to be trapped.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not trapping you.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: I'm saying I'm signing with the women that they're danged
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: if they do, danged if they don't.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: I will agree.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: You're either yelled at forgetting taking too long to get ready,
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: or you're kind of like marginalized for being like, oh well, okay,
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: she's a plane Jane, she didn't whatever.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: I will say, like, if she has to get ready
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: for an on camera meeting, she has a lot more
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: pressure than I have to do, so right I did. Now,
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: my pressure comes in spurts because like the other day,
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: I can't say who were where? Yeah, boy, here we
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: go John with his super secret cloak and dagger meetings.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: What I had to go to it? It was a
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: it was a major meeting. Like it was a major
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: meeting at a major place.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: I'll just put it that way. Okay, but major money.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: But I realized, like I have, but you guys are
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: be hearing a noise right now. Were I sore up
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: and down.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: The way that the noise will pick up because they're
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: working on the h VAC at the church. Above us,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: and now it feels like there's a drone fire over.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: I think they're grinding something or sawing through the floor,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: which is the first time they've done that.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: Bugs Bunny Cartoon. In a minute, one is going to
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: fall through like a circle.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: So you hear that, which was probably very slight to you,
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: but it's really loud that.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I want you to know. You don't don't adjust that
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: dial that's happening.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Don't you change that station, don't go to a better podcast.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: But like I was, like, I wanted to do with
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: the whole stereotypical guy thing, but look, I'm just gonna
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: throw on some whatever.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: And my wife and I was very tired.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I came home and she didn't even said, hey, don't
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: wait because the meeting was on Thursday morning. She's like,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: don't wait till Wednesday night. Yeah, for us to go
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: find you a sport code or something.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, you don't have a sport coat. You could just
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: have a sport coat. It doesn't fit right now, boy. Yeah,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: And so I have an interview. You're just kind of
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: in person.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: In personally, I have another one, but it's old and
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: it would fit, but it's old. It's like an old
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: suit it. She's like, you can tell that's a suit jacket.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: It's got three buttons, and you know that doesn't so anyway,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: that's not the style, man, apparently not. I don't know
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: what the style. It's coming back double breasted. So reluctantly
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: we went, do you go get things? And and I
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: was so glad that she but I thought how much
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: pressure she has to be under all the time.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: So I went and.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Bought a couple of suit coat. There's a couple of
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: sports codes because I got to.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Go back a couple look at you, but man, I
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: got to have a backup. But there was half off,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: not tear one. And also I hope to lose some weight.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: That would be helpflucky.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: So you got a gold coaste, see I said, the
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: one from Good Morning America. Yeah, and so that's that's
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: that's the one. The war with a hoodie like Michael Strahan.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I did wear it like Michael Strahan was my camp
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Of course we knew that he looked at it was
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: like this, two guys are let me just say this John.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: My weekend was pretty interesting. I did pretty much. I mean,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: the people asked me about the kind of shows I do.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: And the truth is I do all kinds of shows.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: I do comedy clubs, I do some churches, I do
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: some fundraisers, and I did all of them this weekend. Yeah,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I did a fundraiser in l J, Georgia for a school.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Then I turned around and went to O'Neill, Nebraska for
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: a show at the Community Center. And do you know
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: what one Nebraska's samous for. It's the Irish capital of Nebraska.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: What they have the largest shamrock. I don't know, it's
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: just painted on the.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: It's not a real shamrock. There's a city square.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: There's a city square where you come to like a
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: four way traffic light in the middle of downtown and
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: a gigantic green and they repainted a couple of times
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: a year. But it was bright green that day because
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: they had it ready for Old Patrick's weekend. But a
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: church had sponsored the weekend at the community Center. But
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: we had a few hundred people. It was really great,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: what a fun And people were shown up with green hair.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: This one guy is long green beard that he died green.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I forgot to wear green, by the way, did you Yes?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I did not wear green that night. I wore a
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: boy today. Yesterday was Saint Patrick.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: But I was trying. I was like, off all nights
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: not to wear green.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: That night of that show, everybody's all decked out and
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I'm wearing a blue sweater like a loser. But we're
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: going to get to that in a minute, because this
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: week in history is going to prove that I may
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: have been right.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that blue. Just stay tonk okay, I don't
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: don't don't give it away.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Don't fast forward either.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: So we got a lot more details about my dumb
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: weekend because everybody wants to hear no. But anyway, then Nebraska,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: there was a Nebraska. Then we drove over. We had
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: a one way rental car. We drove over to Des Moines,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: which is about five hours, because I had to show
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: the next afternoon one PM show two thousand students six
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: through twelfth graders, and I swore to carry I said,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I told my agent, I go because we've we've turned
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: down a bunch of these because like this is what
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: you start out doing, right Like I started out. I
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: was doing all these songs and parodies and I was young,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: not young, but I was young enough to get away
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: with it. I could get over now, I'm old enough
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: that I'm like, there's going to be a day when
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I'm on stage in front of teenagers and they're going
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: to be like, we're not buying it, old man, and
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I want to realize it before I get on that stage.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get on the stage and realize it.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: So I turned down a lot of those.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: But this one's one that I had done two years before,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: and they go, we'd love to have you do the
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: one in des Moine.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: It's another chapter of the same conference. It's called Ignite,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: and so I was like, all right, but this is it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: And when I got there on stage, they go, hey,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: we're already we'd love to have you.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Come do Colorado Springs. And I go, hey, let's see
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: how this goes.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: We start doing soundcheck, John and I told you this
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: when I was in defined So High the next day.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: But sound check is not going well.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: My guitar is not working, and we have like minutes,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: we have like ten minutes before they're letting two thousand
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: kids into the room and it's not working.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: And I go, well, this worked. Last night.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I was in O'Neil, Nebraska, the Irish capital of Nebraska. Yeah,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: and it worked fine, like a peach. And they're being
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: a little defensive. They're like, well, it's our wireless pack
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: and it worked for that, and they plug it in
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: another guitar and it works, and I go, all right,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: maybe this is my guitar. And so then they go,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: well what can we do? I go, let's min the
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: guitar and they go, no, that'll cost feedback. And I go, well,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: you just run a direct line?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: What do you?
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I go, can we just run a direct line to see?
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: And they go, well, no, it's not the line. It's
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: because this wireless pack worked on this other guitar, And
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I go, can we try a direct line? I would
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: love to have tried a direct line. They again, they
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: were so nice. They were not They were kind of
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: embarrassed for me. And I was like, hey, I'm I'm fine.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: If it's my guitar, it's my guitar or whatever. We
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: tried to put a battery and we did all.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: The things, and then they go somebody went and ran
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: and found a youth pastor guitar, which is the best
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: as I could describe.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: It, like the water on the wall right there. Yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: it's worse than that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, it was a Fender, OK, a Fender Acoustic, and
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: if you know anything about guitars, Fender makes some of
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: the best electric guitars in the world and some of
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: the worst acoustics. They never figured out acoustics. This thing
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: had strings on it that were like piano wire. They
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: were rusty, and it was out of tune. So I'm
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: trying to tune it. We've not we've not done a
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: sound check yet, and some eager leader lets the kids
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: into the room. So now I'm on stage holding a
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: guitar that I've never played, trying to tune it with
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: no sound check, and I'm getting ready to have to
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: do fifty.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: You're about to be a meme.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I'm getting ready to do fifty five minutes of comedy.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I'm already nervous about the thing because I.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Can't talk about guns and roses or whatever exactly. Whatever.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody's seeing this American idol whatever I'm gonna say.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: You guys know how old I am. I'm not going
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: to tell you who is Justice Beaver. I'm already already nervous.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: And then now I've got an instrument that I've never played,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: and I set it on the stand. I go, this
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: will have to work because I can't believe how loud
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: this thing is. And I'm really really.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Sorry John's being attacked overhead by a remote control helicopter.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to affect your experience listening.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: As long as we do, nothing can affect their experience.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, this is great.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Anyway, we start the thing, and I'm already in my
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: head going through the thing of like, well, I'll omit
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: these jokes, this joke, this joke, or I won't you know,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: And then I'm already saying like, well, I'll do less
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: guitar because I don't know this guitar is reliable.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: It may not even stay in tuned. Can you imagine
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: what the kids? You'd do more guitar? I was gonna
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: do more music. Yeah, now I'm like this could these
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: strings could all break? So then and I strum you're
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: telling marriage jokes to a bunch of middle school.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Exactly you know, no when your wife. But they're like,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: we don't know.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Not only did we not know, but for whatever I
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: couldn't believe it, but for whatever.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Reason, I did really well. The kids were all in.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: They were just the nicest audience, and they laughed hard,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: and then I got to the guitar part, and the
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: guitar worked. It did not sound great because we had
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: a chance to like really even eq it and it's
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: a Fender, but it was not a sponsor. But if
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: you want to sponsor me electric, lift Fender electric. Let's
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: go Fender Electric. But anyway, they couldn't have gone better.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Sanny O was great. And now I told Herry, I go,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna do colorings, and it's it's like
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I'm It's like I'm at the table and I've won
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: a couple of hands of black jack, and I'm up,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: And do I stay at the table until I lose
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: five more hands of black jack?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Or do I get up and leave me cross the
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Atlantic on the Titanic. Yeah? Right, I'm like, well, it's
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be fine. I'm sure.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no Iceberg out there, there's no eighth grade Iceberg.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: That's going to be like no. I was just trying
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: so hard not to say six to seven. That was
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: my only goal, Like, is there any jonment? I say
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: six to seven because I don't want to derail this
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: show with a six seven.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Boy, they have loved it, Yeah, but it would have
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it's funny.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: For I want to control the narrative of why they're laughing,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: not let it be like some inside joke that nobody
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: really understands in the world. Yeah, anyway, but I got
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: through it. And then then I did a sold out
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: show and define Ohio to a little theater and when
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: we came home, so it was a lot of a
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: little of everything we did. We did a youth I mean,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I just I when I tell you I had not
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: done a youth show in you know, two years.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I'm proud of you because you have to really stretch
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: yourself to go well, you have to really need the money.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: That is what you have to do, right. Yeah, No,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: it was fine, and I think I'm gonna go. I
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: think I'm gonna do cars and then we're going to
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: see if that was the right decisions.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: You're saying you won't mean you to get back in
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the youth ministry, buddy, I think it's been time.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: We're getting the band back toge Ready.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I was telling the story the other day about how
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: we would always go into towns to do Christian rock,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: our Christian rock band, Scarlet Thread.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And we'd go, they go, there's going to be three
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: hundred kids, and we'd show up and they'd go, we
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: don't know what happened.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Then there's thirty kids coming and they're excited, and then
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: we'd find out, like right before the show, they go,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: the Power Team is in town. I was talking about
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: the Power Team and the Power Team. If you don't go,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: please go look them up. If you don't know who
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: the Power Team is, they were this Christian thing in
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: the nineties and early odds that would do like feats
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: of strength and give their testimony. It's hard to beat,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: it's hard to top. You get a muscle man come
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: to your school, is ripping phone come to your church.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: He's tearing phone books, He's bending rebar over his head.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: He's blowing up water bottles, hot water bottles the strength
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: of his lungs.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: We didn't We didn't have any of that.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Lifting cars. We had he's lifting cars with his face.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: You're breaking ice over his chest, like a big blocks
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: of ice. They're throwing a sledge. We had a few
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: CCM tunes that we were going to be playing.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's different. Poorly written. No, they weren't poorly written,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: stop it.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: We just didn't. We weren't strong enough. No, that's true.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: We needed to be working out. Well. He would always
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: do feats of strength.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: I would after a while, after like five towns that
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: we went to that the Power Team had derailed our show,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I started like tearing stacks and napkins. Yeah, and before
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I do this, I just want to say, I'm just
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: doing a whole going to get you into the whole thing.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: But anyway, we did it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Those are the days. Yeah, good luck to the Power Team.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: And they're still there, so I don't know if they
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: are but yeah, yeah, well I ain't if muscle mass
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: is what helps you age, you know better, I don't
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: know if you get that big though. Yeah, that's why
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know if blowing up a hot water bottle
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: is like good for your body, you know.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think this. Like the data is still out, Yeah,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the data still out. There's a lot of there's a
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: control group and there's out of one thousand people. Yeah, yeah,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: lived to be one hundred and five. They go, what happened?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Every day? I blow up a hot water bottle until
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: it exploded. Yeah, I couldn't believe it. So, yeah, I
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: drank five doctor peppers. Oh man. Well, that's a yeah,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: it was fun times.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Oh and I want to say too before we move
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: on to your segment, that I will be the Live
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: and Laughing Tour. We need you to go get those
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: tickets because these shows are hot shows. Ed Wiley and
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: my buddy Brian Bates of Nateland fame has on this
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: run with me this weekend March nineteenth. Were in Destin, Florida,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: March twentieth, pomp and O Beach, Florida, March twenty first, Tallahassee, Florida,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: March twenty second, Gadsden, Alabama. So if you're living Florida,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: you have no excuse. And if you live in Gadsden,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: please come again. Just wait till, just wait, till, wait
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: till the last day and coming against Yeah, you check
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: it out, guys, take.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Us to johny W dot com, Johnny W j nn
• 26:53
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• 26:55
  Speaker 1: That's my segment, Johnny, Let's do it segment. They call.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: They talked about that. I think it both went Bassie.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I wanted to offer a footnote too to my guitar story, okay,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: that it worked the next night in defiance with a.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Dress, in defiance of the night before.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: In defiance of the people in Des Moines who said, no,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: it's your guitar. It was not my guitar, and I
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: don't I'm not saying that to like dunk on them
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: and to say, hey, I've got a podcast so I
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: can now. Please don't think I'm doing that. I mean
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: this in Christian love. It was your system, it was
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: not my guitar. And I love you, and I'll see
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: you in Colorado Sprints.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe I want you lose the show.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Now he's in. He feels great about it. Everybody, Okay,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: it's fine. And if he won't do it, all, come
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: to it. I think I'm ready. I think you're totally
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: fifty minutes. It's in front of students. Oh man, buddy,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: you got this. They love bald guys. Let me say,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: put on a beanie. You went right where I say.
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  Speaker 1: Young people people deal with young people today.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Kids today is Thomas Brooks born sixteen oh eight died
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: sixteen eighty that's a decent, decent life. In the sixteen hundred,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: English Puritan preacher and a prolific author, widely regarded as
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: one of the most pastoral and readable voices of the periods.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: In the era, he said.
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  Speaker 2: The Lord Jesus hath as great and as large an
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: interest in the weakest saints as he hath in the strongest.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: He had the interest of a friend, in the interest
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: of a father, in the interest of a head, in
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the interest of a husband.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And therefore those saints be weak, yay, though they be
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: very weak.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Yet having as great and as large an interest in
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: them as in the strongest saints, he cannot but overlook
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: their weakness and keep a fixed eye upon their graces.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I we were talking yesterday and staff, meaning we always
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: do a kind of.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Thought of the week.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: We rotate with the staff, you know, and one of
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: our guys when I was speaking Sunday, I actually told
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: a story from staff meeting about a moment he could
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: have been offended at something, and he had chosen when
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: we talked later to talk about, Oh, I know how
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: that person's wired. And I imagine that must have been
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: hard when they heard this, this and this like instead
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: of instead of like being offended, he absorbed it, he
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: absorbed the offense. And so the inside of that was
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: is he was talking about how hard it is for
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: him to know what to do with You might call
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: it a compliment or something like that. Because I think
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: we read that one time on the podcast some theologian said,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: you know, the only person who can have true humility
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: has to be completely unaware of it because the moment,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: the moment you're aware of humility, then you cross into
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: something else. So you almost have to like live in
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: a humbled state. You're being humbled and it hurts real bad,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: but you won't know it, you know. And so I
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: was talking to him about like I said something that
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: really I haven't said out loud in this way, but
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: it really stuck with me since yesterday.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, when and I feel distant.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: From God a lot, and just just by feelings, right,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I don't take that as anything anymore. Really, they're real
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: and they're valid, but they're not reality, and they're always
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: there trying to there's always that inner critic or everyone
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: to say it, always trying to pull me somewhere different.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: And I was like, if I'm honest, it's a really
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: hard place for me to go. But probably where I
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: feel most known and authentic with God is when I
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: can come to the place where I can feel that
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: He is proud of me or pleased with me. And
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: it is super hard and the other guy, my buddy,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: he's a six like I am. And he was just like,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, I was like yeah, Like just saying the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: words is hard for me. Yeah, because our theology teaches
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: us right that when did Paul say in me nothing good?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Dwells?
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: And there's there's that desire to be humble. There's a
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: desire not to well and not to rest on your laurels.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Like you you don't want to like, Okay, well I'm
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: gonna rest on this, and that means that I'm gonna
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: let myself go or let myself yeah, right, and or
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: you don't want to just trying to stay vigilant and earn.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: You're trying to earned if you're honest.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: But there's a there's a online though, of not taking
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: glory right in anything that you do, and recognizing even
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: if you do something right or believe something right or
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: say something right, you know.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I I think it was Tim Keller. I was listening
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: to a thing the other day.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: He said, the entire doctrine of predestination really has one purpose.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I never heard him say it like this or it
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: said like this. It's not to try to predict who's
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: going to heaven. Who's not to debate whether there's fairness
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: in the elect or whatever. He goes, the whole real
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: purpose of that doctrine is so that nobody will stand
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: on anything but God's mercy, he said, because and he
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: went through this like this scenario. He was like, so
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: if you say, okay, I believed and my neighbor did not,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: you know, why do you think that is? Well, that's
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: because I chose to put faith in God. Okay, why
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: did you choose to put faith in God? Because I
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: can sit And he kept going, Okay, well why did
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: you do that?
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: But why did you do that? But why did you
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: do that?
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Because in the end, if you keep going all the
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: way back, it's supposed to take you to the place
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: where you go there was nothing I could actually do.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: God had to put that thought.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: And so instead of you know, focusing on the fairness
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: of the neighbor and what they did or did not do,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the whole we missed the whole purpose. The real purpose
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: is to say that none of us stand on anything
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: before God but his mercy. And I think it's that
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: idea that keeps us from feeling that God could be
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: pleased with us on any front, or that God's only
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: pleased with us simply through the sacrifice of Jesus. And
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I do believe what I just said is theologically accurate,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: but I think it also depersonalizes maybe the love of
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: God sometimes, because we do see in scripture where God
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: will say, like, I mean to the unbelieving.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: He was the guy that that.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I forget the centurion right who's praying and God, and
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: an angel appears and says, hey, you know, God has
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: seen the alms you give to the poor and the
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: way you're trying to honor him.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: There's going to become a God in Paul that I
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: want you to go with him.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: And he's going to tell you, like there was a
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: sense of pleasure in what in that guy that I
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: don't think is the same thing as him earning God's favor,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: earning salvation. But so we throw that whole baby Jesus
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: out with the bathwater on that one, right, Like we
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: are just completely worthless before God, and only because of
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Jesus does he have any interest or even any any
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: liking towards us. It was like, but if I could
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: bring myself to the place where I can hear the
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: pleasure of the Father towards me as a beloved son,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: not because of performance really, just because I don't just
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: that's just love. And I started thinking, we made you.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: He's proud of you because he made you well. And again,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: we just had somebody on staff, you know, a couple
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: that just had a baby, and you know when they
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: send pictures, it's not I mean, they couldn't be more proud,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: and the baby has done nothing to deserve.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: But the last thing they'd want the baby to think.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Is well, my parents just have to love me, because
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: that's what's right. They would want they're a kid to
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: know that. No, no, it's not just because you're a
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: baby like all other babies. It's because you're you're mind
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: and whatever is unique about there are unique things about
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: you that's like nobody else and and you have you
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: have that.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Can I be displeased with things that you do?
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Sure, But I just think that I thought this quote
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: really hit that well, that God has all this interest
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: in us, regardless of our weaknesses, and that he has
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: this fixed eye upon other things within us that he
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: is it's hard. It's like God is equipping us and
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I think rooting for us. The Bible says that there
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: are there is a that the Living translation calls it
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: the grand stands of Heaven, right, that that there's this
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: this great sort of surrounding crowd of faith, that that
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: a cloud of witnesses is another way they would say,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: so are they are they cheering for us? Are they
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: are they hoping that we make it well? I mean,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: if if the saints can hope that we make it right?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: And we even know theologically that when Lazarus and the
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: rich Man died, that there was a conversation happening beyond
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: this life of concern about those who are still on
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: the earth. Right, even the wicked rich Man was asking, Hey,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: can you go say my brothers? And so how much
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: more do I think there's interest from saints beyond in
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: what's happening to us here? If the saints have interest,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: and how much more the Father? Yeah, right, and that
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: he's he's wanting good things for us and seeing through
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: the eyes of other things. And again I'm always scared
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be like someone's gonna interpret that is so,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: if you do a good job, God's proud of you.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: And that may be true, but that's not a pride
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: unto salvation or unto other things.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I think it can be a fatherly pride.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: But I find for me my most I feel most
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: at home with God when I'll let that very uncomfortable
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: thought in that I am found to be pleasing the
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: eyes of my father.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: So anyway, just sharing that today, it's good. I like it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: That's good stuff. Let's do My saying was John, let's
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: do old jokes.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: We call it joke about that, John, I think I've
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: bought the world's worst thesaurus.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Not only is it awful, it's awful. I like that.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: A ninety five year old man was overheard by the
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: staff at his carol I'm calling his wife sweetee and
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: honey when she was in the bathroom. One of the
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: staff asked him his secret. How do you remain so
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: loving all these years? He answered, well, it's been ten years.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I've forgotten their name. I'm scared to ask her now.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: That's great. And John, finally, I'm never donating blood again.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: The many you walk in the door, it's just questions
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: like where did you get it? And why is it
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: in a bucket? That one's dark. That's good, John, Let's
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: do this week in history, we call it talk about then, John,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: this week was Saint Patrick's day. A lot of us
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: celebrated yesterday. You stayed on this side of inebriation. I
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: think I did, Okay, we celebrate the life of Saint Patrick,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: who died on this date. Various sources give the year
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: as AD four sixty, four sixty one or four ninety three,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: which is a big variance.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: That's big in the death all the copycats.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, four sixty four sixty one or four ninety three,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: we're just way off. Saint Patrick's color was originally blue,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: but over the years it has changed to green to
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: commemorate his use of the shmrock to explain the Trinity
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: to Pagans. That's why it ended up being green, because
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: he was explaining three and one to Pagans using a
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: shamrock a clover, and he says, God is three. This
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: is like, this is three, there's three leaves. It's one,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: God's three and one the trinity. So they go, now,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: your color is green. So when I wore that blue sweater,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I was closer to Saint Patrick's original vision.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Right intentionally, And you know the whole you know the story, right,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: the historical story about the snakes in Ireland. That's exactly
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: what wife said last night. It's so funny. So you
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: know Patrick was not Irish, okay, he was English, sure,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: and then he was stolen and trafficked into slavery in
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Ireland as a boy okay, basically forced to keep the
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: flocks of his you know master. And that's for those
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: years in the fields by himself and I in the
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: coltons of where he.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Really became very close with God, all right.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: And then he escaped, yeah, and went back home and
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: grew up, and then began having dreams from the people
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: his captors basically saying come back to come back to
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Ireland and walk among us again.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: And he felt that it was God calling him, and
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: he did.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: He went back to the land of his captivity, wow, okay,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: and took the gospel.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: And I mean built it.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Won, thousands of baptized, thousands of people, built monasteries. But yeah,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: he was the apostle to the Irish who has?
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Who had? But he knew their culture and knew who
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: they were. That's crazy.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: That's a great this guy. Come on, man, and now
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: we dye the river green and get lit. Yeah, it's
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: not the same. No, I don't think he would. No,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think he would have dug that. But anyway,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: my blue sweater was more historically accurate. We ever knew.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: That's right, John. This week James the Fourth was born.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: He was born fourteen seventy three. He was the King
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: of Scotland. And he makes the list because he banned
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: golf but later became a golfer himself. Okay, okay, so
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: come on y'all. Fourteen ninety one he reaffirmed a ban
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: on golf that had started in fourteen fifty seven when
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: James the Second band golf and football to preserve the
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: skills of archery. So this wasn't some religious like we've
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: got to get more into the church losing archery. Sportz er,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: we're losing archery. We've got to do something. The ban
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: was lifted in fifteen oh two with the signing of
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: the Treaty of Perpetual Peace between England and Scotland. James
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: soon became a golfer himself and made the first recorded
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: purchase of golf equipment, a set of golf clubs from
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: a bow maker in Perth. Wait a minute, Wait a second,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: he's buying golf equipment from a bow maker. The whole
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: point of banning golf was to save archery. Meanwhile, this
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: guy who's an archer himself, he's like, I gotta get
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: a side hustle here.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I got to make some golf because archery is going downhill.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: That to me, this story is more about side hustles
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: than it is about hypocrisy. I abandon golf and then
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: taking up golf. Golf is a seductive mistress. It's going
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: to lure you in. But it's the guy who's the
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: bowmaker that's like, let me go ahead, and an extra
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: fi this sorry six bits.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Happy birthday, James the fourth, and hit.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Him well out there today, wherever you may be. John
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: born this week, eighteen thirty seven. Grover Cleveland. He was
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: an American politician, the twenty second and twenty fourth US President.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I did not realize that, and governor from New York
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: eighteen eighty three to eighteen eighty five. And there's a
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: list of things about him that I did not know.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: And you may know all you're a US history guy.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Did you know a lot about Grover Cleveland? Hwa, dustle?
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Did you know that he was one of the first
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: people to be in non successive terms?
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, you knew that part he was.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: He was the first democratic US president since the Civil War,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: so he avoided the Civil War draft by hiring someone
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: to take his place. And I know that this guy,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I mean this, this list is wild. In eighteen ninety three,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: he had a tumor in his mouth, secretly removed under
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: the guise of going on a fishing trip. He had
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: doctors remove the tumor while a board of friend's yacht.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: They removed the tumor, along with about five teeth and
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: a large part of his upper left jaw. When a
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: reporter uncovered the story, Cleveland denied it and launched a
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: smear campaign to discredit the reporter because it was setting.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: You know, obviously this is pre internet, obviously way but
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: still important that a politician not show this level of
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: weakness you're going to be in photos.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: But he had five teeth in his upper jaw remove
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: and a reporter that reported it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: He goes, not only is it not true, he doubles
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: down and smears the guy. This is like what Lance
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Armstrong did. I mean, he was being you know, like
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: rightfully accused of things. He was just like he just
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: like wrecked all these reporters' careers because he had the
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: high ground.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Sometimes he protest too much, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, man,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: he's projecting with no teeth all the you all the more.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Cleveland was the first US president deserved two nonconsecative terms.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: He was the first and only US president married in
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: the White House, and the second to wed while in office.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: You know that, forty nine year old Cleveland married a
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: twenty one year old Francis Fulsom, making her the youngest
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: US first lady twenty one, forty nine and twenty one.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's yeah.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Their first child, Ruth Cleveland, was born between his terms
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: as US President and became an instant media sensation, popularly
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: known as John H.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Baby Ruth. There you.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: In nineteen twenty one, seventeen years after her death, the
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Curtis Candy Company renamed their candy cake Candy Bar two
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: K's Candy Cake. They renamed it Baby Ruth in honor
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: of her Coincidentally, the famous baseball player Babe Ruth. George
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Hermanruth had hit fifty one fifty four home runs the
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: year before and had been the home run leader since
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: nineteen eighteen. Had they named it Babe Ruth? They probably
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: would have had to compensate him. So it's named more
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: for the baby. But people, I think assume it's Babe Ruth.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: But it's a name for Grover Cleveland's daughter with a
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: twenty one year old Grover Cleveland's portrait graces the US
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: one thousand dollars bill, which I.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Think are out of circulation. So I got a couple
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: over here if you want to see. Yeah, I think
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: let me have a look after the show. Maybe John
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: mister Rogers was born.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: We have a lot of births birthdays this week, nineteen
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: twenty eight, Fred Rogers, and he makes the list because
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: it's mister Rogers.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Dude. We need more, We need a lot more mister Rogers. People.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: I've talked about him on the show before, but I
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: see that you see the documentary and the movie that
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: they made about him. I think he was teaching Americans
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: how to be a different kind of man.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I do. I mean,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I just I.
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  Speaker 3: Think that that guy is somebody that his impact is
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  Speaker 3: We're still learning more. He was an American Emmy winging
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  Speaker 3: TV personality Presbyterian minister. One of his sweaters which was
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  Speaker 3: knitted by his mother's on display in the Smithsonian quote,
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  Speaker 3: You've made this day a special day just by your
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  Speaker 3: being you. There's no person in the whole world like you,
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  Speaker 3: and I like you just the way you are. Why
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  Speaker 3: he announces, Why he announces he's feeding the fish as
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  Speaker 3: he's feed This is why he makes the list. This
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  Speaker 3: is really why he makes the list. This is one
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  Speaker 3: of my favorite stories of all time. And this is
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  Speaker 3: all about empathy and why we need more empathy in
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  Speaker 3: the world. So anyway you go to feed the fish.
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  Speaker 3: He started in this show saying I'm feeding the fish
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  Speaker 3: right now. He did that because one girl in her
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  Speaker 3: family wrote to tell us when please say when you're
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  Speaker 3: feeding the fish, because I worry about them. I can't
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  Speaker 3: see if you're feeding them, so please say you're feeding
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  Speaker 3: them out loud.
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  Speaker 1: She's eight said.
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  Speaker 3: This is from Katie, age five, and the father's note
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  Speaker 3: below the letter said, Katie is blind and she does
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  Speaker 3: cry if you don't say your love that you have
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  Speaker 3: fed the fish.
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  Speaker 1: She worries about them.
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  Speaker 2: So mister Rogers took that in and had the emotional
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  Speaker 2: iq to then from then on say I'm feeding the
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  Speaker 2: fish for that one little girl.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I mean mister rogers.
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  Speaker 3: Do John finally born this week nineteen oh four BF Skinner.
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  Speaker 3: He's an American psychologist, pioneer and behaviorism, which did not
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  Speaker 3: know was the thing. But behaviorism, you know social.
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  Speaker 2: It's like cottonhavioral theory theology, the behaviorism is it different sociology.
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  Speaker 1: He worked on a.
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  Speaker 3: World War two project Pigeon, which attempted to develop pigeon
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  Speaker 3: guided bombs. A glider with a bomb attached had a
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  Speaker 3: guidance system in the nosecone. The guidance system projected an
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  Speaker 3: image onto a screen. Several pigeons that were trained to
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  Speaker 3: recognize a particular target would peck at the screen when
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  Speaker 3: they saw the target. If the target moved to the
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  Speaker 3: edge of the screen, the pigeons.
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  Speaker 2: Pecking would follow it on the screen, and the guidance
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  Speaker 2: system would adjust the direction of the glider to recenter
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  Speaker 2: the target, thus keeping the glider on course. I have
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  Speaker 2: no idea what happened with this project, or it was
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  Speaker 2: like something they were just trying, and then the pigeons
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  Speaker 2: were just not.
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  Speaker 1: Great at this. I mean they're in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: a battle. Just the fact that they thought.
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  Speaker 3: I bet we could train pigeons to do this, and
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  Speaker 3: then they're like, we got men and bombs and war,
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  Speaker 3: why don't we involve some birds. I mean it's other
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  Speaker 3: reasoning homing pigeons and things. But yeah, they sent carrier
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  Speaker 3: pigeons in War one. I think this is a pigeon
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  Speaker 3: doing like a tech job, right, a pigeon helping you
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  Speaker 3: find your target?
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't hear a lot about it, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think this is still going on, so obviously
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  Speaker 3: we can say this is probably a failed program.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, these were the unsung heroes the uh man, why
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  Speaker 2: is no one talking about the pigeons?
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  Speaker 3: They're getting a little tiny metal of freedoms. I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 3: they're out there though. Yeah, there's a pigeon in a
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  Speaker 3: park somewhere. It's like my grandpa fought in WWS right now.
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  Speaker 1: The greatest pigeon generation. Oh my goodness, wasn't it though? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know enough?
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  Speaker 2: John?
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  Speaker 3: How would you find out more about the show? Four
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  Speaker 3: hundred episodes, but some would say too many? How would
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: they find them all?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, guys, it's always It means a lot that
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  Speaker 2: you guys have spent this much time with us.
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  Speaker 1: It really really does.
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  Speaker 2: And we know, hey, you could take your podcast listening
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  Speaker 2: time just anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: We're just trying to keep it centered, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: If in some way we're pecking at the screen, that's right,
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  Speaker 3: like a misguided pigeon is trying to keep the nose
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  Speaker 3: cone of our glider secure and safe and down the middle.
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  Speaker 2: Eighty years from now, someone's going to be telling a story.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, there was these two guys, yeah, who
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  Speaker 2: sat in an office.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because everything a time, everything will be computerized. They'll
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: be like, oh, and the robots give us our entertainment.
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  Speaker 2: Later on they uploaded their consciousness to AI and now
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  Speaker 2: they're still here with us today.
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  Speaker 1: On episode four thousand, we walk in and we got
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  Speaker 1: robot bodies.
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  Speaker 2: A beautiful story needs more. Well, guys, thanks for time
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  Speaker 2: you gave us. Let's do it again. Next week you're
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  Speaker 2: on talk about that
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  Speaker 1: Note that baste the lab, but basting them a baste,
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  Speaker 1: But the lab built a bat