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All the CrossFit DRAMA · The Spin Podcast

• 0:32
  Welcome to the Spin. First show of the year.
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  Official show of the year. We've already had a show of the
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  year. Feel like it's been a minute?
• 0:41
  Yeah. It does feel like a long week.
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  It's been 4 days of the week so far.
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  It's fine, lots going on, but good news James Hobart is.
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  I'm glad, James, because I'm I'm dreading it.
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  Why I have nothing to contribute to this show?
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  I guarantee you, you're going to say.
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  Something I, I, I, I feel like we should have had Jenny on as a
• 1:09
  guest, as a guest show and then I'll take a break.
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  Just feel like I won't be needed.
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  I don't care for the drama at all.
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  But Kenneth, let's bring that comment back up.
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  Day 4, JY Barbell Fitness had a bit of a leg killer.
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  My wife is actually doing that workout right now, and so I have
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  Abby Grace here for about 25 minutes.
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  But yeah, if you want to do CrossFit but in a strong way, go
• 1:39
  sign up. jybarbell.com $25.00 a month, two weeks free.
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  Just try it out. Just try it out.
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  Yeah, Tyler's wife is doing it. She was first in the.
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  Leaderboard the other day she has smoked.
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  So yeah, try it out. Just give it.
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  Just give it a try to cancel at any time.
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  First weeks. Don't say that.
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  No, I don't care. I I literally I no.
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  Refunds. No refunds.
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  No, no, listen 1000 people to sign up and the first two weeks
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  are free. Cancel at any moment.
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  I just want you to try it. Just try it and see if you like
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  it. That's it.
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  Look at all. Look at all these people here.
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  Jason Bourne is even here. So.
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  God yeah, Will Morad would. Who cares about the pack?
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  I'm sorry, I was going to. People wanted, people wanted to
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  know, go ahead. Who cares about the pack?
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  I don't know. I guess we'll get into viewer
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  comments and maybe we'll maybe we will talk about the pack.
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  Will, that's why Will's YouTube and you know, the WFP channel's
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  not doing well. They're too early and people
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  expect them. It's not as exciting.
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  You guys don't know when we're going to show up.
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  That's. Right.
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  You're sitting there waiting, waiting.
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  It's like, it's like going to a concert and you're just waiting
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  for the band to actually show up.
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  Can you pronounce this name for me, Tyler?
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  Nope. Nikki Gahur gahur.
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  Gahur. Say it five times fast.
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  Nikki. Gahur, Nikki.
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  Gahur, Nikki. Gahur.
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  Guys, I'm doing great. I bench press fifteens today.
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  Feeling great OK all the. Way up.
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  Yeah, yeah, we're doing. And fifteens felt better than
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  10s every two days and go up 5 lbs and we're just going to do
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  like a couple sets of 10. We're doing.
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  We're doing good. I'm not doing it in gymnastics
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  quite yet, but I think we escaped disaster.
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  Do we think TFX is still on the table?
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  I think so, Yeah, I think so. I mean, dude, I, I did, I did
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  some snatches today. I, I, I can work out.
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  I just, I'm not doing pressing workouts and I'm running a lot.
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  I'm, I'm running like, because that's basically all I can do.
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  If I do, if I don't do something, I'm going to run is.
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  CBG in there with you banging on the table.
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  No, no, that's my Abbey. Grace ran for 40 minutes in the
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  runner today. Yeah.
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  Yeah, she's. Gonna start throwing up 500
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  bucks for the rat. On that note, John 202717, it's
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  this, it's this company. They have this like recovery
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  agent stuff. You rub them.
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  They wanted us to try out their stuff.
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  They sent me some of their stuff.
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  I need to get your guys e-mail. Send it to me.
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  Addresses. Yes, good, send it to me.
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  Oh the the the Wagwa guy, the Christian clothing wearing
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  company guy, you know what I'm talking about.
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  He wants to send you guys some clothes.
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  So if y'all are interested in some clothes let me know.
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  Speaking of free stuff, if you saw my story yesterday,
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  yesterday, day before, I can't remember.
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  Yeah, maybe Monday. I asked who has tried.
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  Daughter. The drink.
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  Daughter, Daughter, daughter. Dirty doter drink. 97% said No,
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  3% said yes, and guess who's getting some free doter?
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  No way. This guy right here.
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  We're we're sponsored by the daughter drink.
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  No, they're just sending me some to try because I don't know.
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  I hope. My daughter drink person ever.
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  I hope you love it. I hope it's.
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  Amazing. So I'm going to come in there
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  with an open mind now. Shut off.
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  Don't even give me that. I'm gonna.
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  I'll try it. I'll try it.
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  Dear Annie, I want some too. I got I got a message though.
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  Dear Annie, there was no water. From someone and this is
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  untested. This is just from somebody that
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  has tried it and the comment was tastes like Fruity pebbles that
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  have been left in a car seat for a week.
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  Damn, they got you on that back half, didn't they?
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  That that person sounds like they've had fruity kebbles.
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  Pebbles that were in the back seat of a car.
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  Maybe that person has a kid, I don't know.
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  Did you guys ever go to Jamba Juice?
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  Yeah. They had a secret menu.
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  That was a bigger deal, I think back in the day, but they had a
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  secret menu. Oh man, I did like my freshman
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  year of college. I was there like every other day
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  and you could order a Fruity Pebbles Jamba Juice and it
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  tasted exactly like Fruity Pebbles.
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  It was incredible. I would.
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  I was a big subway guy in college.
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  Trying to lose weight? You and Jared were were in
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  lockstep, Yeah. Me me and a buddy would go to
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  the not nice town in an area in Indianapolis and grab ourselves
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  some Subway. We met.
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  We were good friends with all the the sandwich artists.
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  Dude their pizzas were pretty good.
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  There was some male dude that was male guy mailman that was
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  like there every single day just hanging out.
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  It was good. I thought daughter Daughter was
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  for females. It's formulated for women, but
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  made for everybody. Every time I think about the
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  doter drink, there's an episode of The Office where Robert
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  California was drinking this this energy drink marketed for
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  gay guys. That's crazy.
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  I think about the same thing. I don't know why, I don't know
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  when you. When you were texting us about
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  it, I was looking for like a GIF to play.
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  I couldn't. They don't have that one.
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  I don't know, we'll see what the what what makes of it, but yeah,
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  some doter is coming my way. Viewer comments leave yours for
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  next week. First off, at the Games Lab,
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  this let's talk about John was just so stupid.
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  I wish I could say it in a nicer way, but yeah, you earned this
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  injury. Hope you heal up quickly.
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  You know what? You know what?
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  That who, who, who said that comment?
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  Who said that's the? Gains Lab.
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  And that's why nobody will remember your name.
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  I actually know that guy. Because.
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  Because we have balls to do things that others won't.
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  I could ask Dallin. Hey Dallin, let's see your 200
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  ring muscle UPS for time. And he was like, no, I have to
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  adjust my training. It doesn't adjust into my
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  training, right? And but I'll be like, all right,
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  I'll do it even though I'm ill prepared, Even though the most
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  hustle UPS I've done in the workout in the last year is 20.
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  Why? Like, let's just see what the
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  body is capable of and just because.
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  Y'all don't have the balls? To take the chip like Tyler
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  trying to depreciate it. Did you see the last episode?
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  Decimate, I think is the word you're looking for.
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  Those, those depreciate, those heathens tried to depreciate
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  your, your achievement, right? Did you see that?
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  Little double declining balance, yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, like, like, I mean, talk about insecurity for some fit
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  guys. Y'all are some insecure people.
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  Good grief. We saw this week and some of the
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  comments and some of the posts this week people get.
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  People get I get upset. I know it was dumb, that's why,
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  that's why I'm doing it. Half the stuff I do is because.
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  It's stupid 'cause nobody else will do the dumb things that
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  everybody wants to see. Can't he do it?
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  Maybe he can't. And I don't even care if you
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  don't care that if I can can or can't do it.
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  Some people did. And then and then, you know, I
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  got hurt. But it's the 100.
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  And 94 reps into this, things were looking great.
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  I was flying. You were.
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  Flying it was crazy. If you also want to know how to
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  like, be able to do. 100. And 94 ring muscle UPS sign up
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  for JY Barbell. JY barbell you'll be able to do
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  194 ring muscle UPS. That's right, not want one more?
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  In about 50 minutes you can do that.
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  Add Bernard Coley. Oh man, very sorry to see John
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  get hurt. Great gym community though with
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  Summer and Veronica helping out. That was a good part of the
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  show. I know I actually got four women
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  that contacted me to work with me either in JY Barbell Fitness
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  or one-on-one just to get her muscle up because of those,
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  because of those girls. So it ended up working out.
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  I mean, if they stay on for more than one month, I made money.
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  You really got them with that. Don't do it that way if.
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  You're going to be dumb then you better be tough.
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  That's all. All of these feel like
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  compliments. Yeah.
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  Is Leslie working out or is she just?
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  She just been interrupted. She's she's trapped with the
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  diapers because I didn't want the dog to get in.
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  Yeah, that's. I know, I know.
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  That was right there. Yeah, let's see at Imperfect.
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  Still worth it. The spin shirt is my favorite.
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  Wear it every week until my baby snot is all over it.
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  Have a blessed year, everyone. That's why I'm wearing.
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  No apologies. Barbell spin shirt.
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  vindicate.com. There's no discount code
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  anymore. That's out.
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  K8. Yeah, go check them out.
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  You still got some barbell spin shirts?
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  Hiller, Savan. Other vindicate.
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  Shirts. I've heard a lot of people the
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  the people who have your spin shirt say that it's their
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  favorite shirt. I've never seen hurt anybody
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  that says I have a spin shirt, but it's not my most favorite
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  shirt of all time. They always.
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  Say that that original that one of those first ones we got me
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  and it was like you could it looked official.
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  It was, it is legit. So I think there's some of those
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  out there, just doesn't say media on the back of it so.
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  Oh yeah, I got the special edition.
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  Special at Renee Pay Pappy Pap Renee Renee Renee The 2026
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  prediction WFP will make one of their tour stops in Brazil
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  negatory. I don't know, with the amount I
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  wouldn't. In some ways I wouldn't be
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  surprised #1 cause the crowd gets so hyped there.
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  But number 2, with the amount of Brazilian affiliates that
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  dropped off the open leaderboard last year, I I could see it
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  happening. Yeah, Don't we know where they
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  are already? And there wasn't in this on
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  South America. No, never, never, never mind.
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  I don't think, I don't think it'll be in South America.
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  We'll, we'll cover that here in the the news.
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  They'll they'll. Spare no expense, John.
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  Yeah, Venezuela maybe. Definitely Venezuela.
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  I told you guys this. I want to talk about this real
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  quick. This is.
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  No, you can wait until the news. That's on the other channel,
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  Tyler. That's on the other channel.
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  I told you guys when we were at Crash, well Spin, you weren't
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  there. I sit there that.
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  Trump was going to go, I said. I said if.
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  You want to make a bunch of money right now, you go into
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  Venezuela before we take over, and you just start, you just
• 13:03
  start wrecking shop and you start just taking stuff.
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  And then the Americans will come in and they'll be like, oh, this
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  guy's been here. And you're like, yeah, I have.
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  Yeah, we talked about other things at at the mayhem.
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  More like moon landings and other conspiracy.
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  Oh yeah, yeah. But dude, the moon landing one's
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  tough. Venezuela didn't come up.
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  So anyway, that's on our other channel to be determined soon.
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  Michael Sigzelski. Sigzelski.
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  That's Sigzelski. Yeah.
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  Does JY Barbell regularly program chair sitting and met
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  cons? We do not, but we are.
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  We don't judge those who do intervals.
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  It's just intervals. Yeah, yeah.
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  Whether it's all four or not. Yeah, today was intervals and I
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  bet a lot of sitting took place. We can ask Kenneth, you had a
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  bit of a leg killer, but no. But again, we're a judgement
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  free zone. You know, everybody's allowed to
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  sit when they want to sit, unless you're not supposed to be
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  sitting and then you need to move or this.
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  Is breaking vindicate? Does CB GS?
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  No, you don't, does he? Really, we take the code back.
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  There is no code Tracy Q1 HOMG all the guests.
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  How fun. Yeah, and I appreciate all the
• 14:32
  people for Trump return now. Like it's, it's, it means that
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  you guys care. That show year's Eve?
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  Who knew? Was top shows.
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  I will remember in the spin catalog.
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  That was that was a good one. That was one where I got off and
• 14:47
  I was like, that was a good. Show that was a fun show it.
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  Was, I mean, that was your best physical performance you've ever
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  done in your life. So I would imagine that you
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  would remember. Guess what?
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  I remember the bar facing Burpee show too.
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  OK. Like I you're always going to
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  remember that. Yeah.
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  And finally at Scottish G, this one's for Tyler.
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  Does Tyler think we don't have other sports in Europe for
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  people to go to? You guys don't get it.
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  You don't understand American sports.
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  It's not that you don't have sports, it's that you don't have
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  what we have here. It is like if you go to a
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  college game here in the United States, it is as big as every
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  sporting event that you put over there and it's every single
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  weekend in every single state. It's insane.
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  I. Would agree with.
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  That I'm not saying you don't have sports, you just don't have
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  it like we have it and. So and Americans don't
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  understand the European sports either.
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  It goes both ways. Like nobody cares about cycling
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  over here. Nobody.
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  And cycling's a big deal in Europe.
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  Like it's, it's OK that you don't get us.
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  'Cause we don't get. You but I think, I think the
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  difference though is like OK, cycling's on on a weekend,
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  right? Or like 4 weekends and or you
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  know, every day for a month in July.
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  And August? And then and then you have like
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  huge soccer matches for like Barcelona and whatever else,
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  right? But when you think about a
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  Saturday in the fall in the United States and you have
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  however many college football games and you know, I don't know
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  how many of them hold over 100,000 people it.
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  Takes over. Yeah, it's, it's I, I that's
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  where I don't think Europe comprehends that, but Scottish G
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  goes on. I think the only problem with
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  world fitness problem fitness project problem was that they
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  had a piss poor PR manager. Everybody was in the camp that
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  we wanted more competitions for the athletes until they made so
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  many mistakes. Don't do affiliates and send one
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  e-mail to CrossFit to ask about dates saying you want to work
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  around them. It wouldn't have mattered when
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  CrossFit ignored them, they would always have had the e-mail
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  to say we tried. Just shocking marketing.
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  Can't, can't disagree. I wish I had it pulled up.
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  And it's something that on Hiller's video of his
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  predictions is 20 predictions for 2026.
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  There was a piece in there that wasn't a prediction, but I think
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  it's actually pretty applicable. And it was talking about
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  scarcity, scarcity of competitions.
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  And we entered last year. Everybody's saying we want to
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  see more, we want to see more, we want to see more when what
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  you want is to wonder what's going to happen when the games
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  come around. You want more build up, you
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  don't want more actual competition.
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  You don't want more days of Christmas, you want Christmas
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  Day. That's and that's why I think
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  the Water Palooza showcase is, is perfect because that's not a
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  big deal competition that people are picking out for, but it's
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  just some of the best people showing some of the best things
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  that they have. And then it makes you talk.
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  Oh, did you see what that geek quit the bike or Tia did every
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  single event or you know, Amy Kringle actually took it to Tia
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  whenever they all did it, right? Like it just makes you talk,
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  right. I think we need more of those
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  and less. Individual competitions.
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  And you can have lower tier ones, too.
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  And I mean, I know we've kind of talked about this like on and
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  off almost forever. I know a certain coach at a
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  certain camp, he knows who I'm talking about, has talked about
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  a combine for like a decade, you know what I mean?
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  And I just think like, things like that would be so cool.
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  The combine needs to happen. I've been talking.
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  I've talked. To you a CrossFit combine, not
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  an actual like combine. Crossfitters too because I
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  always talk about that on WOD Prep on Monday, but no like a
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  CrossFit combine. You wouldn't need the bands.
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  No, Chris Ibarra does like 60 feet of a legless Rd. climb in a
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  row. And then it's like, what can
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  Victor Hoffer do? Can he beat 60 feet?
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  Right? Like, you know what I mean?
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  Like people would turn out just because the record, the CrossFit
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  record is 60 feet. And they're like, I got that
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  right. Then then bigger names would
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  turn out and you know, and there might be some no name like James
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  Townsend shows up for the CrossFit combine.
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  Ain't nobody beaten that dude in like 20 power cleans at 315 per
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  time, you know what I mean? The way I think we should, if we
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  had a CrossFit combine, the way I think you would do it,
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  especially in like the first inaugural year is have like the
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  ghee show up that definitely set the records for the lift and
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  then like have it be. Like it wouldn't be a lift,
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  Tyler, because it's a combine. It would be some stuff.
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  Like. I think heavy, heavy, heavy
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  Isabel would be more of a combine test.
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  I'm not saying you heavy Isabel, but like something like that
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  would be more of the combine test than yeah, I think in the
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  NFL it's 225 for Max reps It could be 225 for Max touch and
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  go squat snatches or something like that.
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  Like it's stuff like that, not necessarily a Max lift.
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  You invite the freaks out to like do their one thing, and
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  then you have a bunch of like new athletes that we don't
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  really know, have them do all of them.
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  So you kind of have some stats on them going into the year.
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  And then the next year it's like, I think I can beat
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  whatever record somebody set and then they just show out for that
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  one. It'd be a great televised event.
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  Who could throw the softball the furthest?
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  That's definitely CrossFit. Still rich?
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  I think like you could do, you could do, you could do like a
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  like a wall ball test where you did 50 wall balls with a 10 and
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  it has to be unbroken 32nd rest. And then it's 50 wall balls with
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  a 2030 second rest. And then 50 wall balls with a
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  32nd rest and 50 wall balls with a 40.
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  And then you just keep going until you can't go unbroken.
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  Travis Sparrow would win. Yeah.
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  But like a test like that is is what would be a comp a comp
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  test? You it would need to be
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  CrossFit. This is the problem.
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  You want to you want to put CrossFit in everything.
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  It's like just do the the niche test.
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  Why would you need to do No one? No one wants to watch another
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  CrossFit event now I guess like. It can't be bad.
• 21:21
  It needs. To be short.
• 21:22
  Yeah, it's got to be Max effort things and that doesn't mean Max
• 21:25
  wait. But it's not grid like grid.
• 21:28
  It's not like what the time domain should be grid for most
• 21:32
  things like what Grid league is, but it but it's not it's not
• 21:37
  that. Bad.
• 21:39
  So now we're just arguing with Hobart.
• 21:41
  You called it the CrossFit combine, But yes, what is the
• 21:43
  combine? It's a distillation.
• 21:44
  One thing each. It's it's a distillation of the
• 21:47
  skills that you need. You don't really like the John
• 21:51
  Welborn has a great quote about this.
• 21:52
  He looks looks like Tarzan plays like Jane, like the guys who do
• 21:56
  really good in the bench press always play like shit on the
• 21:58
  field. But it's like it's a
• 21:59
  distillation for how you should perform on.
• 22:01
  The field. Equal a good.
• 22:03
  Crossfitter Matt Fraser wouldn't have the best CrossFit combine.
• 22:07
  You know what I mean? It doesn't well, it doesn't.
• 22:10
  Dee would probably have a fantastic CrossFit combine.
• 22:13
  It just doesn't. It doesn't equal the greatest
• 22:15
  CrossFit. But but but you again, you have
• 22:18
  to do so like Travis Mayer will win the Wabaugh test.
• 22:20
  It has to it can't just be like a bunch of things Dee's good at
• 22:22
  but but like that Dee wouldn't be great at that.
• 22:25
  You know what I mean? We'd have some kind of 10 minute
• 22:28
  machine thing, right? Like I think.
• 22:33
  How many calories you need to go before you get Rabdo?
• 22:36
  OK, I think I've solved this issue.
• 22:38
  But I think like 80 RPMS you can't get under 80 RPMS, you
• 22:41
  just hold it. It's not that I'm low because my
• 22:44
  volume is cranked above, it's that John is so loud.
• 22:49
  And I think you guys are like Matt, like you, your volume is
• 22:51
  set to John when you're listening because like with each
• 22:54
  other, we all sound fine. John John Smike is at the Max.
• 23:01
  That's not. I adjusted my mind to the lowest
• 23:03
  setting. I just, I just fixed it on the
• 23:06
  back end, John, I don't know what, I don't think you need to
• 23:08
  do anything else but. Shut up, John.
• 23:11
  Perfect John, perfect CTP. Look at this.
• 23:19
  I didn't know he still he was watching.
• 23:21
  He wants that because he's good at Nordic curls.
• 23:28
  Anyway. You're hilarious, y'all, You're
• 23:30
  so funny. Scarcity I back to the original
• 23:37
  point I Hiller that that point that Hiller made, I think it
• 23:42
  definitely resonated with me like I I don't think we need to
• 23:46
  see everybody compete over and over and over again in the same
• 23:50
  fashion of an individual competition like a season like.
• 24:00
  It's also like, I I go, I go that direction with how much we
• 24:04
  see athletes online. Like, I don't think you should
• 24:09
  go full Frasier and be like, I'm going to disappear for eight
• 24:11
  months. But also like.
• 24:13
  Never go full Frazier. Yeah, never go full Frazier.
• 24:17
  But also like we're seeing a lot of like, I, I just don't know
• 24:21
  that it's good that we see athletes online all the time.
• 24:24
  Like, you want to know? It's like, dude, we haven't seen
• 24:26
  this dude in six months. Like he's just been training,
• 24:29
  you know, he's just been cooking in the gym.
• 24:33
  Yeah, for sure. I mean I the the hype that there
• 24:35
  was in like 20121314 when you had no idea that.
• 24:43
  What Rich? No one posted anything.
• 24:45
  Or or Khalipas like what's rich doing like and you have no idea
• 24:49
  what their training is. They would keep it secret like
• 24:52
  and they were still innovating like so far down the road.
• 24:56
  And I think Brute does that to an extent, right?
• 24:58
  Like Brute seems to be doing things a little bit different
• 25:00
  than what others are doing, but you still see Dallin and Jason
• 25:05
  and all those guys all the time versus you had to wait for
• 25:10
  somebody to do a cross for Siobhan to go out there and do a
• 25:13
  video on them, right, to really see what they were doing.
• 25:16
  It made those videos more exciting because you're like, it
• 25:19
  was the the scarcity, what is the supply and demand curve?
• 25:23
  The whole sort of situation was going on.
• 25:25
  I mean, like you wouldn't hear anything from Rich and all of a
• 25:28
  sudden there's video of him snatching 300 lbs and you're
• 25:31
  like, dude, what the hell? And that was back when nobody
• 25:33
  did that. And so, yeah, it's.
• 25:36
  Yeah. I seeing them compete A
• 25:40
  gazillion times I don't think adds to the excitement so.
• 25:45
  CrossFit Combine. DM us if you want.
• 25:48
  To I again, I would I would like to see that like I like
• 25:51
  Wadapalooza for what it does. We'll get into the moving at the
• 25:56
  March here and at the end. But you have, you know, you have
• 26:01
  that you have. Then you go into the season and
• 26:03
  then you had back then you didn't even have Rogue.
• 26:07
  Years ago, yeah. You're the Invitational.
• 26:09
  That was it. You had Dubai, which was
• 26:12
  somewhat attended, but there was no, you know, there was a huge
• 26:18
  offseason where you had no idea what was going on.
• 26:21
  So Daniel H thinking about getting on the JY Barbell
• 26:25
  program. Hey jybarbell.com $25.00 a
• 26:29
  month. Easy peasy.
• 26:31
  Well. John, do you want to get into
• 26:33
  the drama? I mean, I've been waiting for
• 26:36
  this for the last 26 minutes all.
• 26:38
  Right, Where do we start? Where do we start?
• 26:40
  I don't know, I hate it all. Just go down on the list.
• 26:45
  Can I have a question? You cannot have the question
• 26:48
  next. I said can I have AI know you
• 26:54
  sent the like the show doc run like what we're doing, but I
• 26:59
  didn't read it. So who who who all are we
• 27:04
  talking? What's the whole list?
• 27:05
  Everything, John. Everything that's happened this
• 27:07
  last week, you're gonna. Love it, I'm telling.
• 27:09
  You all right? I'm just gonna be surprised by
• 27:10
  it. Well, you know the first one,
• 27:13
  Danny Spiegel flashed her butt on Instagram.
• 27:15
  I can't show it on on YouTube because when Dense did.
• 27:19
  Yeah, when Dense showed it her YouTube channel the the video
• 27:25
  got flagged for. Demonetized.
• 27:26
  Yeah, you can't. Like, so you can't look at
• 27:29
  Danny's butt on YouTube, but you can't all day on Instagram?
• 27:32
  You got to click that button. Did you make this for children
• 27:35
  and say no and then you can? It'll hide it.
• 27:37
  I don't think that matters either.
• 27:41
  And then the fallout of Hiller and Wooly battling back and
• 27:45
  forth, arguing again, like past each other.
• 27:52
  John, do you like you like seeing Danny's butt?
• 27:57
  No. Strike, Strike what, 87?
• 28:00
  Yeah, I mean, I don't follow her so I didn't see it until y'all
• 28:03
  brought it to my attention. I'm blocked so I couldn't see it
• 28:06
  either. And the.
• 28:10
  Is that one of those? We need to remove you from the
• 28:12
  thread first. Before, yeah, no, I would
• 28:15
  appreciate it if you know that's going to happen.
• 28:18
  Just remove me and then re add me and I'll understand what
• 28:20
  happened. The chat needs to understand
• 28:22
  John's been removed from the thread several times.
• 28:24
  So no, I've, I've, I've left, I've, I've left the thread
• 28:28
  before and then get brought back in the No, I actually took my
• 28:34
  own version of these pictures and I that will be hidden
• 28:39
  forever. And honestly, I would go.
• 28:42
  Wait, I I thought time out. Let's not necessarily breeze
• 28:45
  past that. I think I look better than her,
• 28:48
  just saying. Your butt's pretty.
• 28:50
  I mean like if her butt's a nine, yours is like an 8.
• 28:53
  Oh dude, mine's A10I. Mine blows her away.
• 28:56
  I can't believe you're not sharing this with the world.
• 28:57
  John, it's it's going to be in the calendar that you can buy on
• 29:00
  vindicate.com, the 2026 locker Room, no.
• 29:03
  No those pictures won't see the light of day but I'm just I'm
• 29:06
  just saying what do y'all think if comparing the two?
• 29:09
  I think I think I could make some money if I wanted to, but I
• 29:13
  don't spell out to weak women. I don't prey on weak women, OK,
• 29:17
  or gay men. I, I which is probably which
• 29:20
  probably would be the more what that would be that would end up
• 29:24
  being. Weak women.
• 29:27
  Speaking of that old Seth page at Jump Ship.
• 29:31
  Oh, that was a beautiful transition.
• 29:33
  I didn't even mean to. Make.
• 29:36
  That it's a good transition. That was unexpected for those of
• 29:42
  you who. Are.
• 29:44
  Hold on, hold on. I'm sorry.
• 29:45
  I feel like we have to talk about this.
• 29:47
  Is this is Tylers wife? Is this true, Tyler?
• 29:49
  If you, if you know, if you know me at all, and my wife can
• 29:56
  attest to this. I'm fascinated with bucks.
• 30:01
  I like from a physiological level.
• 30:04
  I'd say you those in confidence that you.
• 30:07
  Have you have a great ass, John? I don't like what you want me to
• 30:12
  like, not tell you the truth. You got a great ass, all right?
• 30:15
  You got as a as a coach of mine used to say that boy's got a LSU
• 30:20
  ass. All right, right.
• 30:27
  If I'm married, it doesn't matter if I'm talking about
• 30:29
  John's butt. All right man, as long as you
• 30:32
  guys have a good relationship. Everybody flood talks DMS with
• 30:39
  ass pics. He's got a good ass.
• 30:44
  OK, we can move back. It's a it's, it's a no homo ass
• 30:49
  appreciation, no homo, no homo. I feel uncomfortable.
• 30:54
  I'm going to. Start A I'm going to start a a a
• 30:57
  thing on my Instagram. This would actually probably be
• 30:59
  a good idea of me just rating other dudes asses.
• 31:03
  I don't think it's a good idea, Tyler.
• 31:05
  I don't think that's a good idea.
• 31:06
  Then Spin's going to have to remove you because his, his, you
• 31:09
  know, his morals don't line up with that.
• 31:13
  Speaking of that, Seth Page owns a Jump Ship Training.
• 31:19
  He also owns multiple affiliates.
• 31:20
  He has down one of those as of January 1st.
• 31:24
  Over the weekend, Seth on the Jump Ship Training Instagram
• 31:28
  page made a post somewhat cryptic.
• 31:32
  We were bummed to announce the end of Jump Ship Lahaina in
• 31:35
  Maui. No pun intended.
• 31:37
  We lahainy, lahainy. I could not get over how Hitler
• 31:41
  was saying it. Lahaina you.
• 31:45
  We are no longer affiliated with the gym or its current owners,
• 31:49
  but we are grateful for the community that was part of that
• 31:52
  chapter. Lots leaves lots of questions
• 31:55
  like why do you make a black square post saying you're out of
• 32:00
  CrossFit, Lahanie? I ain't reading all that, Seth.
• 32:04
  I started looking around and of course the comments.
• 32:07
  No other details were shared. No other details, but Evan Lulu,
• 32:13
  Evan Lulu Lalu, the business partners using the gym platform
• 32:19
  to boost and post X-rated content were wasn't foreseen.
• 32:23
  Kudos to you guys. And yeah, another person then
• 32:29
  said big wild. That's that's the the username.
• 32:34
  So started looking into who owns this new flow state CrossFit.
• 32:38
  It was Jake Gibbs and Kayla Marshall.
• 32:40
  Kayla is pregnant with. That appears to be Jake's baby.
• 32:45
  Is Jake the guy? Yeah, Jake's the guy.
• 32:48
  Jake is the guy. He's the owner number. 9 as.
• 32:50
  Wait, wait, wait, I thought. I thought.
• 32:54
  I'm confused. Don't be.
• 32:56
  Why are you confused? I thought Jake was the guy with
• 33:00
  the the material. Yes, he's also the big.
• 33:06
  Material. Isn't it gay material?
• 33:10
  I don't it's. I didn't click the link, John.
• 33:13
  Viewer, you know it's it's in the eye.
• 33:15
  Be the holder. I think it's, I think it's a lot
• 33:19
  like your Lahini, John, like you might post it doesn't.
• 33:24
  You can't. You can't determine who's
• 33:25
  attracted to it. I'm not posting anything.
• 33:27
  I know if I knew Tyler, if it was going to be like that, I
• 33:29
  would not have shared that with you guys.
• 33:32
  All right, so you mean you might put it out there thinking you're
• 33:35
  going to get all those ladies attention, but never know, those
• 33:40
  guys might hit your DMS. My guess is probably that's what
• 33:43
  ends up happening most. But anyway, you can see there
• 33:47
  jump ship Lahaina now is flow state CrossFit.
• 33:50
  He sold his his share of the gym.
• 33:55
  I think it was 51% to Jake and Kayla.
• 33:58
  And then I started looking at, well, what's this big wild
• 34:01
  account? And there it is.
• 34:06
  And you click on the link tree page and his little look good
• 34:11
  naked program just like Brooke ends no big deal.
• 34:15
  And then what's below the belt? What's below the belt?
• 34:19
  I don't like it. I don't like any of this guy.
• 34:20
  I don't want to talk about it. And.
• 34:23
  Too bad. He has an only fans account and
• 34:26
  if you watch dense updates, he boasts that he has a nine inch
• 34:31
  banana and he's. Happy that one doesn't.
• 34:35
  Yeah, so then Seth went on and kind of explained everything.
• 34:40
  After all of that kind of went came out, basically you had to
• 34:45
  make a decision. They the members started talking
• 34:47
  about members found it. They the dude blocked Seth and
• 34:51
  his whole team. Smart move, pro move.
• 34:54
  From his his Instagram page that promoted his content which has
• 35:00
  over 60,000 followers by the way.
• 35:02
  So the dude's not like just doing it for funsies.
• 35:05
  You needed to like, I don't know if you can Geo restrict
• 35:09
  followers, but like anybody on the islands, you probably need
• 35:12
  to like they can't follow you. That would have been the
• 35:16
  smartest move. I don't know how hard it would
• 35:18
  be to block everybody in Hawaii, but probably worth the
• 35:23
  investment. So yeah, the basically some of
• 35:28
  the member found it and then the member told a member and then
• 35:31
  the members told members and then next thing you know, the
• 35:35
  entire gym was talking about it. Seth was not a fan of it.
• 35:41
  Apparently this was not disclosed to him at the time of
• 35:43
  when they entered the partnership.
• 35:46
  And so Seth had two decisions. He could basically boot them out
• 35:51
  and probably take their share or buy them out.
• 35:54
  Or what he ended up doing is selling his share to them.
• 35:58
  The reason being is the the guy apparently was promoting his.
• 36:08
  Quick math. That's a good point to have
• 36:15
  artists. And so he ended up selling it
• 36:20
  because the guy was going into the gym and doing some photos in
• 36:25
  the gym. Yeah, you can't.
• 36:30
  You can't shit where you eat. Like, dude, you're going to do a
• 36:34
  risky thing. You can't double up and do it.
• 36:37
  Do it where you live. Like, come on.
• 36:40
  So yeah, bad move. Bad move.
• 36:42
  Well, I applaud Seth for how we handled it.
• 36:44
  I feel bad for him. I don't blame him for working
• 36:48
  with the WFP now. You got to make money somehow,
• 36:50
  so. I think, I think he made a
• 36:52
  really like it was cool that he did the the Instagram like talk.
• 36:58
  It was like, This is why we did it.
• 36:59
  You can't follow the minute. It was a hard decision,
• 37:02
  guaranteed it was stand up move I think.
• 37:07
  Yeah, I know. I'm pretty sure Seth didn't want
• 37:09
  to get into the details. Yeah, but when that post starts,
• 37:13
  like, it's just enough to get people to pique interest of
• 37:17
  like, hold on, what's going on? And then people start
• 37:19
  commenting. It's like, I can't just, you
• 37:22
  can't just ignore it. And so I think the video that he
• 37:26
  put out or the stories that he put out was what he needed to
• 37:30
  do. I just, I don't think he needed
• 37:32
  to do it before that, but he came to it.
• 37:34
  You got to address it and not let it go away.
• 37:37
  No, I mean, like a lot of people should take lesson from what he
• 37:39
  did he saw as getting like some traction.
• 37:42
  It's like, OK, I'm just going to confront it, not not hide in the
• 37:45
  bushes and like hope nobody like sees me or talks to me.
• 37:48
  It's like, just talk about it and be done.
• 37:50
  You're going to piss, put some people off The I, I don't know
• 37:52
  why I like anybody be pissed. Like I can't believe you got rid
• 37:55
  of that guy for that. But it's like he had to make a
• 37:58
  business decision. You can't fault him for it.
• 38:00
  And if you do piss some people off with that, that's just the
• 38:03
  way it goes. Probably none of those people go
• 38:04
  to your gym anyway, so whatever. Speaking of only fans and going
• 38:09
  back to our first topic, how much money would Danny Spiegel
• 38:12
  make if she just decided to go? Straight OF.
• 38:17
  I don't care. A lot.
• 38:22
  I can't believe the money people make off of that.
• 38:24
  It's it's. It's really sad.
• 38:25
  It's crazy. I think it's sad and the world's
• 38:29
  in a fallen state and men are weak.
• 38:34
  That's our problem, John. We got to fix that.
• 38:38
  Says the guy who wants to rate dudes asses.
• 38:40
  Hey, it's because I'm comfortable with it.
• 38:44
  It's a physiological thing. I got look at John and I'm like,
• 38:47
  Yep, got at least a £500 deadlift on that thing.
• 38:53
  That's what you do instead of rating, Rating the how much he
• 38:56
  pulls, how much does he pull? You got to watch though, 'cause
• 39:03
  some dudes be tiny and then they'll just pull something off
• 39:06
  the floor. It'll pull like 6:30 and you're
• 39:08
  like, I had no idea you were capable of that.
• 39:09
  Yeah, devil's a weird one, yeah. All right.
• 39:13
  Hang on a second, Malliolo. I bet his butt ain't that great.
• 39:16
  And he's. He's deadly 5.6 and his arms are
• 39:19
  longer than a gorilla. Yeah, I can, Devil.
• 39:22
  Trying something here. I don't know, Malliolo.
• 39:24
  Let me see your butt dude. I need to judge this.
• 39:27
  We are. We're trying something here.
• 39:30
  We bringing somebody in. We're trying, We're trying.
• 39:34
  Let's see audio. Can you hear us, caller?
• 39:42
  I cannot hear you. I'm hearing something.
• 39:47
  All right, Getting a little. Road How about this caller?
• 39:50
  Can you can you go ahead, Mr. Spin This is former.
• 39:56
  US. President Clinton.
• 39:58
  Wow. How are you doing, Mr. Mr.
• 40:02
  President? I'm doing just fine.
• 40:04
  Listen, I'm I'm tuning into your show.
• 40:07
  I love your show every week. I'm here every Wednesday and I
• 40:11
  and I can't help but get a little excited with the topic of
• 40:14
  only fans, you know, as as the former U.S.
• 40:18
  President who is very, you know, active with his sexuality.
• 40:23
  I got to say, listen John, you need to little hush up and
• 40:28
  understand that Only fans is what keeps my heart going.
• 40:33
  I bet it is. You.
• 40:36
  You just made John leave the show.
• 40:39
  Come on John, don't, don't be shy.
• 40:42
  This is your former U.S. President talking.
• 40:44
  I know you voted for me. I know you voted for me.
• 40:47
  You look like a man of the people, John.
• 40:50
  You need to just understand that, you know, Only Fans was
• 40:54
  created for the people, and I support the people and I support
• 40:59
  Danny Spiegel. Damn it, her ass looks like a
• 41:02
  linebacker, but God damn it, I love football.
• 41:05
  John, understand this and I just wanted to call in to share my
• 41:08
  $0.10. I love you guys.
• 41:11
  Keep doing what you're doing. Thank you, Mr. President.
• 41:14
  Thank you, Mr. President, I. Love it when bill calls.
• 41:17
  I do I Who would have known that Bill has my number?
• 41:20
  But. He he operates a phone really
• 41:22
  well for somebody of his age. Yeah, he's gone vegan.
• 41:25
  I. Think you think he's doing 1 of.
• 41:27
  Those Oh, for sure, for sure. Are we?
• 41:35
  Ready to move on? Next topic.
• 41:36
  You lose connection there, John. No, I just want to move to the
• 41:40
  next topic. You didn't vote for Bill, I
• 41:42
  guess, huh? John, OK answer answer me this
• 41:48
  question. Why does Daniel Brandon hate
• 41:51
  Britney Weiss? Did she ever say she hated
• 41:55
  Brittany Wise It's. Implied, it's a figure of
• 42:00
  speech. It's a figure of speech.
• 42:01
  Yeah. Oh, OK.
• 42:02
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you ask the question again?
• 42:05
  It's. A.
• 42:07
  Complicated question, I just want to make sure I answer.
• 42:11
  It Do you think Danielle Brandon hates Brittany?
• 42:14
  Wise, do I think she hates her? No.
• 42:17
  I what? Would people think that?
• 42:24
  I think Danielle Brandon trying to figure a way where I don't
• 42:29
  get Adm after. This You know you're getting Adm
• 42:32
  anyway. Just do it.
• 42:35
  Talk to me, Danielle. Just send me ADMI don't care.
• 42:38
  I think Danielle Brandon wants anything said about her said to
• 42:43
  her face. And so when it's not said to her
• 42:47
  face, she wants to talk to the people talking about her.
• 42:52
  But Brittany didn't say anything to.
• 42:55
  No, no, But that question, that question got attention.
• 43:00
  Like she deemed Hillary for that question, right?
• 43:02
  And Hillary asked that question. So I just think Danielle doesn't
• 43:07
  want to be talked about unless she's she unless she can
• 43:12
  respond. Is that fair?
• 43:13
  And I don't want to speak for her, but that's the that's what
• 43:17
  I it's the vibe I get from her. So you're not speaking for
• 43:20
  Danielle, you're speaking for John right now.
• 43:22
  All right. Go ahead, ask me questions.
• 43:27
  If you're a coop. I'll tell you what, if you're a
• 43:29
  coop, ask me. Ask me 3 questions and I will
• 43:34
  answer them in my honest very like this is what I think.
• 43:39
  Any questions? Any questions?
• 43:41
  3 of you, 3 questions go. All right, Chad, you get one
• 43:44
  question. You better.
• 43:45
  You better have a good one in there.
• 43:48
  If you're a coop, you're her manager.
• 43:53
  What are you? Are you OK with it?
• 43:56
  Do you let her just run it out like?
• 43:58
  That this is do you? Have a talk with her.
• 44:01
  One question. I I think Danielle runs Cooper
• 44:04
  rather than Cooper runs Danielle so, and I don't know, I could be
• 44:09
  way wrong on that, but I think she's going to do whatever she
• 44:12
  wants to do and it's up for him to like PR it in the best way
• 44:16
  possible. And he just kind of handles a
• 44:18
  situation if there needs to be a handled situation.
• 44:21
  That's the vibe that I get. Next question you have two more
• 44:24
  I. Don't have?
• 44:30
  Why do you want 2? Why do you want Three questions,
• 44:32
  John? Because we can move on.
• 44:35
  Tyler, what would you do if you were if you were coop?
• 44:37
  If I'm coop, yeah, what would I do?
• 44:40
  About what? Danielle or anything like
• 44:42
  Danielle period? Like would you, do you think
• 44:45
  it's good? What?
• 44:47
  Would you do with Danielle? Not with Taurus?
• 44:48
  Did. That's what.
• 44:51
  I I mean with Danielle period, I just let I've, I've said this
• 44:54
  before on the show, you just let that thoroughbred run, man.
• 44:57
  You cannot control her and the best like you are dimming her
• 45:01
  light to a degree. I mean, like she has to be good
• 45:04
  with any of the fallout that she gets.
• 45:05
  And it's like when I get rowdy, I understand that there are
• 45:09
  consequences. It's it's the F around and find
• 45:11
  out scale. It's like you're going to go
• 45:12
  high on the F around, you're going to go high on the find
• 45:15
  out. And so Danielle's got to be good
• 45:17
  with that Coop. I mean like as much as we shit
• 45:20
  on Coop, like he's got his job cut out for him and like props
• 45:25
  to him. That's kind.
• 45:27
  Of. Super fair.
• 45:29
  Super fair. As far as this situation, I
• 45:33
  guess is what you're asking directly with Brittany?
• 45:35
  I mean in general, but yeah, I mean this like if if you're
• 45:39
  Cooper or you'd be like, hey. Just just go.
• 45:43
  No, I think it's a lot of. I think it's a lot of nothing.
• 45:46
  Yeah, but we're. We're talking about, we're not
• 45:49
  talking about anybody else right now other than Danny and.
• 45:54
  Yeah, but I don't say I think in two weeks it doesn't matter.
• 45:56
  Nothing doesn't. Matter.
• 45:57
  Yeah, we're not. We're not going to talk about
• 45:59
  this at all. That's what I'm saying.
• 46:00
  It doesn't really matter. But I think Savon said it pretty
• 46:03
  good. Like, you know, she's she does
• 46:06
  seem to have an issue with the figure of speech thing.
• 46:09
  And it's like Brittany put that a games athlete inner bio.
• 46:16
  And there's a there's a it's a simplicity thing.
• 46:18
  It's like, I'm a games athlete. And you are you went to the
• 46:20
  games. You competed as a you're not an
• 46:22
  individual games athlete. Do you want everybody to start
• 46:24
  putting individual games athlete?
• 46:26
  What do you mean when you say games athlete?
• 46:27
  And so it's just like you just let that one go.
• 46:30
  It's like, is it a, you know, is there a kind of like a well
• 46:33
  thing to it? Yeah, but it's like, just let it
• 46:36
  go. Who cares?
• 46:37
  Is this what you want to like burn?
• 46:38
  About. That's something that's
• 46:39
  something like if you're asked about, then you're like, she's
• 46:43
  not a real games athlete, but like if you're.
• 46:44
  Asked. Well, Brittany, I think.
• 46:47
  You don't go out of your way to say she shouldn't have games
• 46:52
  athlete in there. Right.
• 46:54
  I think Brittany even said that like if I'm asked about it like
• 46:56
  I re qualify with like. I know what it is, but I mean, I
• 46:59
  went to the Games and I competed like I'm going to put games at.
• 47:02
  Who wouldn't do that? For the record, I would do that
• 47:04
  too. The second I'm asking, I'm like,
• 47:05
  yeah, but like, I'm not like those guys.
• 47:07
  But I did go to the Games and compete it.
• 47:09
  Also makes you look a little bit like a dork if you're like,
• 47:13
  well, you didn't put cross a individual games athlete.
• 47:16
  It's like, oh, who cares? You only get so many characters
• 47:19
  in that little wine anyway. It's like you really want to
• 47:21
  fill it up with all that. And so it's just like.
• 47:24
  What if she tried to put team and it didn't let her put team?
• 47:28
  Yeah. It's just like too many
• 47:30
  characters. Too many letters.
• 47:32
  It's yeah, like Vicki said, it's it's just petty.
• 47:34
  It's just like, let it go. I I don't know, it's like there
• 47:37
  are bigger fish to fry throughout the day than than
• 47:40
  Britney putting in that thing. But also, like you do create all
• 47:43
  this content where it's like people are interested in the in
• 47:46
  the fight you started. So it's like.
• 47:48
  How many people have said we would need a villain in
• 47:50
  CrossFit? I.
• 47:53
  I don't think this is what they mean though.
• 47:55
  I do. I kind of like.
• 47:58
  I think she's like the villain of the media more than she is
• 48:01
  the people. Oh, I think.
• 48:03
  I think Ricky was a villain when he first came back.
• 48:07
  He was a villain when he called Frazier a cunt during.
• 48:10
  Sure, yeah. Yeah, he was a yeah.
• 48:12
  Yeah, that's a villain. Which I'd loved, like I and
• 48:16
  that's the other thing, I kind of like this, like I'd like this
• 48:20
  back and forth thing. It's fun to watch him.
• 48:22
  Fat. But we just talked about like
• 48:24
  being like the scarcity of like don't always be put out there.
• 48:27
  But then like when you are. Make it worth it.
• 48:31
  Make it. Yeah.
• 48:32
  Make it not vanilla. Yeah.
• 48:34
  Like make it fun. And this was it.
• 48:37
  I did think her tirade of stories.
• 48:44
  This one I think is the right one.
• 48:46
  We'll give it a list. I.
• 48:47
  This part is awesome. Can't hear it?
• 48:53
  We. Can't hear it span.
• 48:54
  We can't hear it Span. Can't hear it?
• 48:55
  Oh wait, it's not even the right part, so you're fine.
• 49:00
  Please please said this too. Hang on.
• 49:01
  I went and looked and for everyone saying to me like just
• 49:04
  block her like stop wasting energy.
• 49:06
  Like I really do have time for these things.
• 49:10
  I really do have time for these things.
• 49:15
  Well, I mean, you make time for what you prioritize.
• 49:18
  I just lost out of all of it. That was like my favorite part
• 49:22
  like no, I'm gonna I have time. Like I'm I'm good.
• 49:26
  I'm not doing anything. I'm gonna get into this.
• 49:28
  And I she had to have spent like hours, like with all the
• 49:33
  messages and screenshots and talking to people like, yeah.
• 49:40
  OK, it's like the I, I do feel like when like you get into
• 49:46
  these spats on 'cause I at heart, I guess I am a troll.
• 49:52
  Like even with this CBG guy, like I'm just doing stuff to
• 49:56
  poke you to see what you'll do. I can't help it.
• 49:59
  But on the days that it gets really wild, like if I get in a
• 50:01
  fight with that David guy or whoever.
• 50:04
  Like Fikowski suck, Yeah. Fikowski Coach.
• 50:07
  I can feel my. It's like my internal phone is
• 50:10
  overheating. You ever know when you're like,
• 50:12
  if you're doing too much stuff on your phone, it starts getting
• 50:13
  hot. I can feel that in my body and
• 50:17
  it's. Like you need to chill out
• 50:18
  because you could. You could do some damage here if
• 50:20
  you're not careful. But at the end of the day, my
• 50:23
  I'm. Just like oh God I feel like
• 50:25
  Pedro gets into that loop too if he's in the comments a lot and.
• 50:30
  It hits a. Line where he's like stop and
• 50:33
  stop and comment. I don't have that.
• 50:36
  I go from we're chilling to, oh, we've just dropped in water and
• 50:41
  we didn't know it. Yeah.
• 50:43
  Like like I dropped my phone in water for 5 minutes.
• 50:46
  I hope it. Still works.
• 50:49
  I thought it was when I make a post and then I come back and
• 50:51
  I'm like, oh. There's a lot.
• 50:52
  Going on here. Well half of my stuff is from
• 50:56
  stuff you post man, so it's not like.
• 50:58
  I just get you in water and then it happens.
• 51:02
  Last piece. Hang on.
• 51:06
  Here we go. Oh man.
• 51:13
  I don't know who this guy is. Can we can we have a rundown of?
• 51:16
  Chris Coop, I'll give you the rundown you want to rundown.
• 51:19
  That's what I asked for. Let me, I'll get you that
• 51:21
  rundown. It's Chris Cooper.
• 51:27
  He owns two brain business run a profitable gym.
• 51:31
  He he used he didn't work for HQ or he did.
• 51:36
  Do you know that? I don't think he ever worked for
• 51:39
  him. He may have done some like.
• 51:41
  He had a pretty intimate relationship with him at one
• 51:44
  point. He's a 17 year affiliate at some
• 51:46
  point. Yeah, he's big.
• 51:48
  Like I would say he's a good business mind in the in the
• 51:51
  affiliate realm. He coaches other gyms on how to
• 51:55
  make money essentially to run a profitable gym.
• 51:59
  So he's got some good insight on stuff.
• 52:02
  And anyway, he made a video on YouTube, posted it, I don't know
• 52:10
  when was that? Like yesterday, this morning,
• 52:12
  this morning, maybe super early, middle of the night.
• 52:16
  And PC says he was contracted, maybe contracted, attracted.
• 52:24
  Yeah. So he does this video and
• 52:28
  literally starts out like this. Of gym owners spent hours
• 52:33
  watching a click bait video speculating about Crossfit's
• 52:36
  sale again, let me save you 2 hours right now last time it
• 52:40
  sold Dave Castro called me and said like give us a year and
• 52:43
  that's what I did and then after a year I was like maybe I'll
• 52:46
  give them another year and I did that and then finally just said
• 52:48
  OK look like the ROI doesn't doesn't weigh up for me and you
• 52:52
  do not run a profitable gym by watching speculative videos from
• 52:57
  people who don't know what's going to happen love the.
• 53:00
  Edit 100 picture by the way. Good job on that dude, you're
• 53:04
  getting real good with the AI image.
• 53:06
  Stuff. I can't take credit for that.
• 53:08
  That was shiz. Oh, she is.
• 53:10
  That was a good move. That's a good one.
• 53:14
  Yeah, hundreds of gym owners wasted their two hours watching
• 53:19
  a not real business plan. Except.
• 53:27
  It was real business plan that was sent to real private equity
• 53:32
  venture capitalists in December looking for their money.
• 53:36
  And this was the plan to buy the to get their buy in on
• 53:39
  investing. As I said, as I said to somebody
• 53:44
  that said this is not real, I said there's a difference
• 53:46
  between real and bad. It was definitely real.
• 53:49
  It was definitely bad. That I love that that you said
• 53:52
  that because people have a real issue with that, that right
• 53:55
  there they like, they can't believe it's real because it's
• 53:58
  so bad. And it's like, no, it's 100.
• 54:01
  Percent, it was so bad people thought it was not real.
• 54:03
  That's why yeah, it's yeah. This video has 100 views.
• 54:11
  Well, let's not punch down. I'm not saying that, I'm just
• 54:15
  saying that he's saying that people were wasting their time.
• 54:17
  I the thing I have a big problem with is if you are, first of
• 54:21
  all, he's de affiliated and throughout this, it's very clear
• 54:27
  he doesn't see the value in being a CrossFit affiliate and
• 54:31
  the, and like what CrossFit is. But secondly, it feels like his
• 54:38
  mindset and where he is at is, hey, if you're an affiliate
• 54:42
  CrossFit affiliate owner, bury your head in the sand.
• 54:46
  If something comes up in in that you think is not going to be
• 54:50
  good for your business because you value the CrossFit term and
• 54:55
  you want to be CrossFit gym, just wait till it sells and then
• 55:00
  figure out if you want to stay with them or not.
• 55:04
  But you can't have any control. And again, like people are going
• 55:06
  to say that they don't know like this wasn't legitimate.
• 55:09
  There was no chance it was going to happen.
• 55:10
  It was, you know, the guy was off his rocker and and there was
• 55:13
  no chance he was talking to people and whether you believe
• 55:17
  it or not, like he had a somewhat of a seat at the table
• 55:21
  and there was a lot of uprising about it like.
• 55:23
  That's that's what it's like for Chris to say, hey, just chill
• 55:26
  out. It's like it's because of the
• 55:29
  DMS to the affiliate managers and all that stuff that like
• 55:33
  that whole thing was squashed. And so it's like you do have
• 55:36
  power. You need to remember that.
• 55:39
  Craig Howard of Diablo CrossFit and they didn't fly to New York
• 55:43
  and meet with Berkshire Partners and contact several reputable
• 55:48
  venture capitalists in Palo, Palo Alto raising money and have
• 55:51
  in depth phone conversations with key CrossFit personnel and
• 55:54
  establish a relationship with a known fitness industry investor.
• 55:59
  They didn't. They did not do any of that, no.
• 56:02
  Definitely didn't do any of that, no.
• 56:06
  So CrossFit would have turned to Planet Fitness if it wasn't for
• 56:09
  us. OK, It's basically what
• 56:11
  happened. We saved it.
• 56:12
  Speaking of which. OK, eat it.
• 56:14
  Yeah, yeah, this is this came out today.
• 56:16
  Mastrov just re bought 24 Hour Fitness that is.
• 56:21
  Something I don't want to like Gloss.
• 56:23
  Over. I do find it odd and like, it
• 56:26
  could just be a coincidence, but it seems like, OK, he bought
• 56:30
  back 24 Hour Fitness, meaning he wants to get back in the game.
• 56:34
  And I wonder, like over the past year, what has changed and if
• 56:38
  there's going to be a play on the space that we're in.
• 56:40
  I I I wonder about that. I mean, I haven't, I haven't
• 56:47
  done it dug into like all of this like, but you know,
• 56:51
  obviously these deals take a long time.
• 56:56
  And I I still question whether or not master up was like fully
• 56:59
  engaged involved, like he's working with a different equity
• 57:03
  partner in this one in the 24 Hour Fitness.
• 57:09
  But was he thinking about doing both and like having some type
• 57:14
  of tie in or like put CrossFit gyms in 24 hour Fitness or like
• 57:19
  do something that's like kind of a little bit different?
• 57:22
  I don't know. But yeah, John Hung.
• 57:33
  I don't I don't understand this this comment.
• 57:36
  I don't hate vegans, I just think that vegans, not
• 57:39
  throughout you want to go for most people.
• 57:43
  Second time I've seen this. Somebody say this.
• 57:45
  If Tyler appreciates butts, he needs to watch Heated rivalry.
• 57:48
  Did you start watching that, Tyler?
• 57:49
  I did not. I no, I am not going to watch
• 57:54
  that. What is it?
• 57:56
  You would not like it. Very.
• 57:57
  You would very much hate it, John you.
• 58:00
  Would make that show. It's a.
• 58:02
  Is it a real show? Yes, yeah, here.
• 58:05
  No, here, I'll you don't have to pull.
• 58:07
  That I. You don't want to do this, John.
• 58:10
  I'm. I'm trying to save you from
• 58:11
  yourself right now, John. Oh, this is the show that you
• 58:15
  talked about in the You said it was like the best show you've
• 58:18
  ever seen. That was, Hiller said.
• 58:21
  No, you said that you spent hours watching this by yourself
• 58:25
  in your bedroom when that's what I fuck with the baby.
• 58:29
  That's what you said. Listen, if you're going to be an
• 58:31
  expert in butts, you cannot take any time off.
• 58:33
  I don't. Know what's going on?
• 58:38
  So anyway to real to some real news?
• 58:43
  Dallin Pepper shared that he made $174,000.50. 1000. 50,000.
• 58:50
  That's what Hunter says, and who's who knows what to?
• 58:53
  Yeah, Hunter McIntyre doesn't. Couldn't watch the whole video
• 58:56
  and understand it. It's.
• 58:58
  Hard to understand now, it's very clear video.
• 59:01
  Very clear, easy to explain. Video of how much he made.
• 59:07
  How the contracts work for the World Fitness Project.
• 59:09
  It was like, I was on the way back from West Virginia
• 59:12
  listening to that and I was like, down did a like, he really
• 59:14
  stepped up his game for that video.
• 59:16
  It reminds me a lot of if you ever search on YouTube, like or,
• 59:20
  or come across like how much money did I make as a YouTube
• 59:24
  influencer, like on my YouTube channel.
• 59:26
  And those videos get more views than any other, more than
• 59:30
  anything else on their channel. It's like OK.
• 59:35
  And like, again, like it wasn't anything ground breaking.
• 59:39
  Like anybody can really go back through and calculate that.
• 59:42
  It's just honesty. But to like the way that he
• 59:44
  delivered it, the way that he explained it, kind of his little
• 59:49
  like little clip about every competition was funny.
• 59:52
  His feelings behind it you. Know like I, I thought the Socal
• 59:56
  one, like if I had to split that eight ways, the 20,000, I might
• 1:00:01
  have had a different feeling. But but making $20,000 with
• 1:00:05
  Rabdo? OK, that was pretty funny.
• 1:00:09
  Yeah, James had a very funny like, not, not a clip, but like
• 1:00:15
  a clap. Back on that.
• 1:00:17
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. He, he, he said.
• 1:00:18
  I, I thought about trying to make a video and but just make
• 1:00:22
  it like 10 seconds and be like refer to Down's video and then
• 1:00:26
  just multiply it by two. And I don't know.
• 1:00:29
  I thought it was So it was, it was.
• 1:00:32
  It's so clever. Cross Fat didn't mention
• 1:00:40
  sponsors. It's true.
• 1:00:43
  I'm OK with him not not doing that.
• 1:00:45
  I think now if he did that, I know he probably can't, yeah.
• 1:00:49
  But if he did, that would get way more views.
• 1:00:53
  And that's what everybody really wants to know.
• 1:00:55
  And and honestly. It would start a lot of talk.
• 1:00:59
  That's where the athletes are making their money.
• 1:01:03
  Yeah, like 100, like way more. I I think I, you know, I think
• 1:01:08
  there's Sivan maybe talked about it on Friday night, like
• 1:01:12
  speculating how much he made and stuff.
• 1:01:16
  I think they were undercutting like how much he probably pulls
• 1:01:18
  in from tear and relight and. I mean, he can, I don't think he
• 1:01:24
  can be honest about that or like, like just say, say all
• 1:01:27
  the. Stuff.
• 1:01:28
  It would get a little weird too. I mean like, do I want to know?
• 1:01:31
  Sure, but like I understand why he doesn't come out with it.
• 1:01:35
  No, Yeah, I'm, yeah, you don't want to do that, but it would be
• 1:01:38
  awesome. Maybe if you retire like that
• 1:01:40
  would be something that would be, yeah.
• 1:01:42
  That would be cool. And the the gross take home pay.
• 1:01:46
  Yeah, that's what you always say.
• 1:01:47
  You don't. You don't ever say, oh, I made
• 1:01:49
  this much after tax. John's not saying I want $50,000
• 1:01:53
  after taxes. He wants $50,000 gross.
• 1:01:55
  He'll deal with the taxes. Yeah, I'm good with 38 after
• 1:01:58
  taxes, man. I'm I'm I'm.
• 1:02:00
  I don't. He knows how to write things
• 1:02:02
  off. He's fine.
• 1:02:04
  Dude, you know who knows how to write things?
• 1:02:06
  I don't know. I don't, never mind.
• 1:02:07
  I don't know. I don't know what's like.
• 1:02:10
  OK. OK, to talk about it.
• 1:02:12
  No, no, no, because I don't like.
• 1:02:13
  I don't know if it's like fishy or not.
• 1:02:15
  The I, I am related to somebody. We had this conversation
• 1:02:21
  recently. They just started working and
• 1:02:24
  they were like how do I tell people when they like?
• 1:02:26
  If they ask how much I make and I want to tell them, how do I
• 1:02:30
  tell them that? Because like, they, they were
• 1:02:32
  confused with net and gross and they were like, they had pissed
• 1:02:39
  several people off because like, no, you don't make that.
• 1:02:41
  You make the gross amount. You need to tell people the
• 1:02:44
  gross amount. No one tells you how much they
• 1:02:45
  make after taxes. It was not Jeanette.
• 1:02:52
  I promise it wasn't Jeanette. I should we should y'all want to
• 1:02:58
  make a video like that? What do you mean?
• 1:03:03
  Explain what you mean. It'll be funny.
• 1:03:05
  I'll be like, this is what I made as an analyst this year and
• 1:03:08
  Oh yeah, and just and just give the honest figures and like,
• 1:03:11
  this is what I'm making. On this video we made $3.52.
• 1:03:15
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then really go all out like
• 1:03:18
  I. On some.
• 1:03:19
  Of our spin cast, I got $200 this month.
• 1:03:21
  Like, you know, like. On some of our spin casts, I
• 1:03:25
  would like to get $3 and. $0.52 I I I I'm.
• 1:03:28
  Saying I think especially strong women last year that was rough.
• 1:03:32
  We did that. Why we did that?
• 1:03:34
  For the love of the game. I think I think 80% of what we
• 1:03:37
  do is for the love of the game. We do it because we hate
• 1:03:39
  ourselves. That's.
• 1:03:41
  Right. Don't have enough time.
• 1:03:44
  So yeah, let's see. Speaking of Dalan Pepper, him
• 1:03:50
  and Jason Hopper and Alexis Raptis, who else?
• 1:03:56
  Abby Domit are down there in Austin, TX.
• 1:04:02
  Tear tear, tear. Their new shoes are coming out.
• 1:04:06
  So that wasn't Dallin's garage 'cause I was digging though.
• 1:04:10
  No, it's in Austin. Austin, TX.
• 1:04:13
  I was. Digging the.
• 1:04:14
  He went to Armands old gym. Yeah, really.
• 1:04:18
  Chase, Chase, whatever his name is.
• 1:04:22
  Crossing to Piru. Yeah.
• 1:04:23
  Oh, I've been there. That's a cool gym.
• 1:04:25
  Yeah. You car who?
• 1:04:27
  Yeah, so that is that is the new tier CXT 3 apparently.
• 1:04:35
  Sweet. Thank you for the $2.67.
• 1:04:39
  We'll split that three ways and I just took home $0.70.
• 1:04:42
  Appreciate. That I was having a conversation
• 1:04:45
  with someone about tier, probably my wife.
• 1:04:50
  She was saying that like nobody inside.
• 1:04:53
  Whoops, no. Nobody inside our gym has tear
• 1:04:59
  shoes and our our thinking is that people, only people that
• 1:05:03
  follow the sport, know what tear is.
• 1:05:07
  True, true. Or swim.
• 1:05:13
  But in our our sphere. But like in our like in our
• 1:05:16
  space, I guess maybe if they used to swim or still swim, they
• 1:05:19
  might be aware of it. But I think tier strategy of
• 1:05:23
  sponsoring Wadapalooza for three years, going all in on the Games
• 1:05:27
  athletes, it didn't translate to the average gym goer, which
• 1:05:33
  actually just in my opinion shows the disconnect that there
• 1:05:38
  is now of the Games and the affiliates.
• 1:05:44
  Whereas whereas 10 years ago everybody knew Reebok was
• 1:05:49
  associated with. That's 'cause Reebok was
• 1:05:51
  everything. Yeah.
• 1:05:54
  I went out but it was like. It being the Reebok CrossFit
• 1:05:57
  Games, but they like I feel like they but it was tier open.
• 1:06:02
  If it was tier CrossFit games I don't like, I don't think it
• 1:06:04
  makes the same difference. No it doesn't.
• 1:06:07
  Now as it used. To well, people were wearing
• 1:06:10
  noble like crazy, though. I know it was a different time,
• 1:06:13
  but they were wearing that like crazy.
• 1:06:16
  But I particularly Reebok, I remember their branding during
• 1:06:21
  the Open a lot. I think that made a huge
• 1:06:24
  difference. The announcements were such a
• 1:06:26
  huge thing back then too. It was hard.
• 1:06:29
  It was hard to miss them. Yeah, no, for sure vindicate at
• 1:06:35
  the global gym. I see more noble than anything.
• 1:06:38
  Yeah, I think they are making like some waves into.
• 1:06:43
  They're making a comeback. Yeah.
• 1:06:46
  They're making a comeback. They golf.
• 1:06:48
  I mean, they're all over Barstool's channel now.
• 1:06:51
  I tried the Noble golf shoes. They're trash.
• 1:06:54
  Are they? They're so bad.
• 1:06:55
  They're so. Bad.
• 1:06:57
  I want to I want to that sponsorship.
• 1:06:59
  I want to correct this really quick.
• 1:07:01
  This is incorrect. I actually made money playing
• 1:07:04
  Grid, so you do have to get sponsors, but I made over.
• 1:07:09
  I was in, I was in the four digits for good.
• 1:07:13
  Hey dude, I was in the four digits.
• 1:07:16
  That's more than most Crossfitters make.
• 1:07:18
  And, and honestly, I mean some would say not far off from 5.
• 1:07:23
  Some would say that. Depends on how you round.
• 1:07:27
  Yeah, net or gross, it does. That was a good one time.
• 1:07:37
  We just need. I need to be clear here, I
• 1:07:39
  don't. Understand.
• 1:07:40
  I got you. Yeah, I just thought that was an
• 1:07:42
  interesting, like thing. Like that's what could Tear do
• 1:07:48
  to get into the affiliates to invade.
• 1:07:53
  Yeah, because now they're not part of Wadapalooza, right,
• 1:07:58
  right. Like in, you know, they
• 1:07:59
  obviously have all their athletes going to do, you know,
• 1:08:02
  photo shoots and all this stuff and videos.
• 1:08:05
  But how, how does any brand now get into the CrossFit space in
• 1:08:11
  the affiliate side? Not those that are watching this
• 1:08:14
  show that are die hard, you know, games, games.
• 1:08:17
  I'll tell you exactly. I got perfect business plan for
• 1:08:20
  this. Go to CrossFit and say I don't
• 1:08:23
  want to be a title sponsor. I will sponsor you if you bring
• 1:08:27
  back regionals. But you have to bring.
• 1:08:35
  You have to go. Back to Russia, I don't think
• 1:08:37
  you're going to big Dick CrossFit.
• 1:08:38
  I think you could if you. If you came.
• 1:08:40
  Across the table with $5,000,000 it's like.
• 1:08:43
  Yeah. No, that's fair.
• 1:08:44
  If you say $5,000,000, yeah. If you unbuck, paying back in,
• 1:08:47
  yeah. The regular people, if you go
• 1:08:51
  back to that style, I think you'll do it.
• 1:08:53
  That's just off the cuff. I stand by if we could just get
• 1:08:57
  CrossFit in front of Elon Musk and say it's a dying sport, can
• 1:09:00
  you save us? Like he would just, he would
• 1:09:02
  just do it. Yeah, and they'll go fire
• 1:09:03
  everybody. No, I think he would just do it.
• 1:09:08
  He will fire everyone. You'd have, you'd have a
• 1:09:13
  physical location for headquarters.
• 1:09:17
  So they would have that. If you guys remember last week
• 1:09:23
  on my predictions, I predicted Miss Alex Gazan to win the
• 1:09:29
  CrossFit Games. And then she immediately posted
• 1:09:33
  a 200 LB snatch 2. £100 snatch number that she has not been
• 1:09:38
  able to hit for a while, all while Justin Kotler is in the
• 1:09:41
  hospital with a Crohn's flare up.
• 1:09:44
  John Yes, ma'am. I want to ask you your
• 1:09:47
  particular expertise on this. I wish we could go through slow
• 1:09:50
  MO. Work on this.
• 1:09:51
  Her head placement needs to be much better I.
• 1:09:53
  Hate her head placement, it's a weird.
• 1:09:55
  She has a weird turnover and she's really slow under the bar.
• 1:10:00
  Agree or disagree? There's.
• 1:10:05
  The weird like sinker thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:07
  Her, her drop to the bottom is quite slow, but I think it's
• 1:10:12
  because she's trying to muscle everything she can after the
• 1:10:16
  initial pop. And that's, I mean, as strong as
• 1:10:19
  she is, I get that. But honestly, her head
• 1:10:22
  placement, this, this, this head placement right there.
• 1:10:26
  Like if she could just put it through right here and then have
• 1:10:30
  that weight displace back behind her, I think she could snatch
• 1:10:34
  215 right now. Right now it is crazy like it
• 1:10:38
  would fix so many things, but keeping that neutral head right
• 1:10:42
  here. I hate it.
• 1:10:43
  I hate it so much the. The bar is behind her but it
• 1:10:47
  takes a minute to get. It's like it's not there until
• 1:10:49
  she's in the bottom. Yeah, no, no, no, I but it's
• 1:10:52
  it's just slow to the bottom, I think.
• 1:10:55
  But obviously they know her a lot better.
• 1:10:57
  You know, if she speeds things up, then she might be in a
• 1:10:59
  different position, right? They train with her all day.
• 1:11:01
  We don't we're watching 1 lift. So like this might be her if
• 1:11:05
  they might have tried a lot of things and like this is the best
• 1:11:08
  thing. And I mean, I don't think you
• 1:11:09
  can just argue with the 200 LB snatch, you know.
• 1:11:13
  So but I don't like I don't like her head placement.
• 1:11:17
  But again, this is more than she's ever snatched ever.
• 1:11:19
  And I think she's I'm taking notes.
• 1:11:23
  I think she's dangerous. So Ben might make to have the
• 1:11:26
  call of the year. That Alex outside.
• 1:11:31
  Of Patrick. I mean this with all sincerity.
• 1:11:39
  No, he doesn't. If you give me an athlete 50
• 1:11:45
  grand and you can pick your person, you can pick your person
• 1:11:49
  and you give them the same athlete, I will bet money I can
• 1:11:53
  make them stronger than that person.
• 1:11:55
  I'm that confident in just making people strong.
• 1:11:59
  I don't care who it is. I don't care what credentials
• 1:12:02
  they have. I don't care who they've worked
• 1:12:04
  with. I bet you I can make them
• 1:12:07
  stronger and I feel very confident in that and I don't
• 1:12:11
  care who thinks that. Like I don't I don't know what
• 1:12:13
  I'm talking about. Don't care at all.
• 1:12:16
  Don't care at all. I got a 42 year old mom who
• 1:12:19
  started CrossFit a year ago who's 15 lbs off of 200 and
• 1:12:26
  didn't snatch a day in her life. I'm just saying like so you
• 1:12:31
  could say what you want with that.
• 1:12:32
  I promise you, you have no idea. I'm very confident.
• 1:12:37
  I don't care who the freak coaching them at HWPO, I'll take
• 1:12:40
  I'll take somebody and Matt Fraser could take somebody and I
• 1:12:43
  bet you I make them stronger than him.
• 1:12:45
  He lifted his whole life and I snatched more than Matt Fraser.
• 1:12:49
  Just me clowning around and he'd lifted for 20.
• 1:12:52
  Years. You're also 8 inches taller than
• 1:12:54
  him. That's probably what's an
• 1:13:00
  athlete that struggles with weightlifting, but that has
• 1:13:02
  potential. What do you mean?
• 1:13:05
  I'm just thinking like which which like games level or
• 1:13:09
  semifinals level athlete has the potential but struggles in the
• 1:13:13
  weightlifting sector because I. Sprague, Lucy.
• 1:13:17
  No, you're just naming people who can get stronger.
• 1:13:20
  I mean, I think he's thinking has the potential to get
• 1:13:22
  stronger we need. To be able to convince their
• 1:13:25
  coach to let John work with them just on that piece.
• 1:13:30
  You know, you know, Alexis Raptors.
• 1:13:36
  I think you and Alexis would butt heads.
• 1:13:39
  Well. You know, maybe.
• 1:13:41
  That should be stronger, so that's all that matters.
• 1:13:43
  Yeah, that's it, comes with it. Like Alexis Raptis which is 15
• 1:13:46
  lbs stronger on everything. You telling me that wouldn't
• 1:13:48
  make a world of a difference for her?
• 1:13:50
  Lydia. Lydia.
• 1:13:51
  Haley, Perrin. Here's the thing about the thing
• 1:13:54
  about Lydia is just so small that like, yes, we could get
• 1:13:58
  stronger, but honestly, like I just think you just.
• 1:14:01
  Get crates of food. There.
• 1:14:02
  Yeah. I mean like, you know you.
• 1:14:04
  You can. Do you provide the nutrition
• 1:14:06
  plan? You can provide the blueprint.
• 1:14:08
  We could. We could put 10 lbs in that
• 1:14:10
  body, Lydia. I don't know.
• 1:14:13
  Depends on how much you want it. I don't know if you would run
• 1:14:15
  the same, but no, that's not that's not what I'm talking
• 1:14:20
  about. But honestly, I I think Alexis
• 1:14:22
  Raptors is the first like as far as ability that I think she
• 1:14:25
  could get stronger like Haley. I think like Haley would have to
• 1:14:29
  stop doing CrossFit and just lift like she it's she's her
• 1:14:33
  body is so hard headed to. I'm sure there's people who have
• 1:14:36
  tried to make her strong and some bodies get stronger than
• 1:14:40
  others easier. They do what?
• 1:14:51
  Yeah, you know she's not taking nutrition advice.
• 1:14:53
  It's not for everybody. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.
• 1:14:55
  I'm not trying to feed my people and I don't need.
• 1:14:58
  You to do I need you to drink a lot of milk Alexis just.
• 1:15:00
  Died. I'm not trying to, yeah, but I
• 1:15:02
  mean, I mean. You do this.
• 1:15:04
  Honestly Ty, I think Ty could get a lot stronger.
• 1:15:08
  I think Ty's like, I mean, but I I think he has been getting
• 1:15:11
  stronger. Like he just keep doing what
• 1:15:13
  he's doing. But as far as somebody with the
• 1:15:14
  ability to get stronger, that isn't quite as strong right now.
• 1:15:18
  Yeah, I like Ty's in that camp, I mean.
• 1:15:20
  I think, I think Ty is in between Dowlen and James on the
• 1:15:24
  like the strength like curve right?
• 1:15:27
  Like he still has 2-3 years like the what we saw James do over
• 1:15:31
  the last two years. I think Ty will do is.
• 1:15:33
  Ty's ahead of where James was and I think he's going to follow
• 1:15:37
  that same trajectory. And being with Brute, I, I think
• 1:15:41
  it's a guarantee that he's going to continue there.
• 1:15:43
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:15:44
  I mean, yeah, that's ty's a good call.
• 1:15:47
  I mean, I let's, I mean I'm trying to think down the line.
• 1:15:51
  You know what's crazy? I I had no idea.
• 1:15:55
  Like Emma Lawson turned 21 this week.
• 1:16:00
  Yesterday. 21. That seems right in my head.
• 1:16:04
  Was that that high for you? Or low?
• 1:16:08
  No, it was low. Like she's been doing it.
• 1:16:10
  She's been competing at the such a high level for so long that
• 1:16:15
  like, wait, oh, wait, you're only 21 years old.
• 1:16:17
  Like kind of crazy. What do you think about it?
• 1:16:19
  Right. I think Hadi Konyo is a good one
• 1:16:23
  too. Hadi, I think we could talk into
• 1:16:25
  this. I don't, I don't know if her
• 1:16:27
  body could hold up because she's she deals with, she's dealt with
• 1:16:31
  injury. Injury prone, yeah.
• 1:16:33
  But I think she's a good one that could, that could, you
• 1:16:36
  know, get has the ability to get stronger.
• 1:16:39
  Caller Hattie. Yeah, let's do it, Hattie.
• 1:16:44
  I I just really liked seeing Alex.
• 1:16:46
  Hit yeah jy barbell yeah go look, go look at it OK I took a
• 1:16:51
  dude who could squat 405 and he squatted 500 lbs in six months
• 1:16:55
  I. Think Jeremy was baiting you?
• 1:16:58
  I tell you what, Jeremy, you pick the lift and if you beat
• 1:17:00
  me, I'll let you on the show. You can pick the lift and if you
• 1:17:04
  don't beat me, never comment ever again.
• 1:17:07
  Jeremy Strong, He's just. I know that.
• 1:17:09
  I know Jeremy Strong. That's why I put the, put it,
• 1:17:11
  put it out there. There needs to be a a time frame
• 1:17:14
  though, because you can't do bench press and you he'd get
• 1:17:17
  you, he'll get you on your 75 LB right now.
• 1:17:19
  Six months. No, I.
• 1:17:23
  It's a milligrid season. I'm real strong during that
• 1:17:25
  season. So a little bit behind my my
• 1:17:28
  thought with Alex was like my concern going into last year was
• 1:17:36
  having to do heavy Isabel, right?
• 1:17:40
  Like, and like that level of snatching was her like weakness.
• 1:17:47
  I don't see it being tested the same way this year and SO.
• 1:17:54
  You would hope God. Like I think we saw what she did
• 1:18:00
  at Rogue, we saw what she did at I guess just at Rogue, but that
• 1:18:06
  continues and she doesn't have something like that that comes
• 1:18:09
  in like if heavy Isabel was programmed at the games, it
• 1:18:11
  would go should be digging out of a hole.
• 1:18:14
  Sure. And so if there's not something
• 1:18:16
  like that, feel very good about her ability to do well and
• 1:18:23
  there's less running to be like, to be completely like, like
• 1:18:29
  we're not seeing them running like there used to be.
• 1:18:31
  When I go to the ranch bro for the first day.
• 1:18:34
  They'll do one run just like they did.
• 1:18:37
  I'll do 1. I think they'll do two runs, but
• 1:18:39
  one'll be short it'll. Be a fast Sprint which is not
• 1:18:42
  going to kill her that much. I think it'll be fine.
• 1:18:44
  So dude, I love the good Zan pick.
• 1:18:45
  I mean, I picked her third, you know, so it's obviously I'm not
• 1:18:49
  thinking that much differently. I mean, I think it's just put it
• 1:18:52
  out there span and if it comes true, dude, I mean, that's the
• 1:18:54
  pick of the year. Like that's the call of the
• 1:18:57
  year. For sure, let's see what else
• 1:19:02
  Jason Smith said. His life was downhill when he
• 1:19:06
  was found out. He.
• 1:19:07
  He. Yeah, he acted like he didn't do
• 1:19:10
  anything and I wanted to hear him talk more and then it like
• 1:19:15
  it felt like a cut off. Did it feel like that for you
• 1:19:17
  guys? Like I thought he was.
• 1:19:18
  Did you watch the whole the whole interview?
• 1:19:19
  No, I'm not going to go do that. But the clip, I wanted the clip
• 1:19:23
  to go further. We can't post, you know, minute
• 1:19:27
  long clips. I mean, he talked in depth about
• 1:19:29
  everything that happened. Jason Smith, for those who don't
• 1:19:33
  know, he was in Africa, competed at the games three times.
• 1:19:37
  Yeah. Two got 7th place one year.
• 1:19:39
  Qualified for his fourth time in like in 2023.
• 1:19:41
  He was going to go as a masters athlete.
• 1:19:44
  Ran into some online issues with like scores and stuff.
• 1:19:48
  Didn't qualify for Masters, but he qualified for the Africa
• 1:19:53
  semifinal, went and did that one the thing because it's Africa.
• 1:19:59
  And at the age of 35. And what he said was he was in
• 1:20:04
  the corral afterwards, right, waiting for his drug test and he
• 1:20:07
  was telling everybody don't touch anything, don't drink
• 1:20:11
  anything. Like there was a mix up in 2022
• 1:20:14
  or a alleged mix up in 2022 with the samples.
• 1:20:18
  That's when like somebody else popped and they said that they'd
• 1:20:22
  like the numbers were mixed up or whatever.
• 1:20:24
  So he's telling all the young people that are there that
• 1:20:27
  hadn't done gone through this like, hey, be careful.
• 1:20:29
  Don't touch him. Don't like just stand here.
• 1:20:32
  This isn't the time to, you know, try something new.
• 1:20:36
  And his wife took pictures of all the samples that he provided
• 1:20:41
  to make sure the numbers, they have the numbers on record and
• 1:20:43
  all the stuff. And then he gets an e-mail
• 1:20:46
  couple weeks later, you've tested positive, which was then
• 1:20:50
  then he goes into it and like he's saying like, like the test
• 1:20:52
  results came back in Russian. I was like, wait, what?
• 1:20:57
  Like that's crazy. If that's true.
• 1:20:59
  I mean, I'd want to see that that that was one that I was
• 1:21:05
  like I. That's yeah, I need proof on
• 1:21:06
  that. One that one.
• 1:21:08
  I think whenever you make it, I can see like that that makes it,
• 1:21:10
  that makes it not bode well in your camp.
• 1:21:14
  I can see it though. I mean like, I don't think
• 1:21:16
  that's crazy. Wild Labs contract out all over
• 1:21:20
  the place. Supposedly it got sent to
• 1:21:21
  California, but I don't know. I don't, I don't know why he
• 1:21:28
  sent one of his samples to Europe to get tested.
• 1:21:32
  It came back negative. He spent like $1800 US to to
• 1:21:36
  test. His own.
• 1:21:37
  To test that. So I didn't realize if you want
• 1:21:40
  your B sample to be tested you have to pay for it.
• 1:21:43
  That's kind of, that's kind of shitty because it's like you
• 1:21:48
  could have legitimately screwed up and I have to pay for your
• 1:21:50
  screw up. I I'd be OK with it if it's like
• 1:21:53
  if it comes back negative, you owe me the money.
• 1:21:57
  Right. I don't know.
• 1:21:58
  I've never heard of AB sample ever coming back negative.
• 1:22:02
  Right. I mean.
• 1:22:04
  This is a great comment. Accidentally this.
• 1:22:06
  It's crazy how many people just accidentally get onto these
• 1:22:09
  things. I will say if if there's
• 1:22:14
  somebody I'd probably believe, though, it's Jason Smith.
• 1:22:18
  It sounds like he has a case. I mean if he legit got his B
• 1:22:20
  test run and it came back negative.
• 1:22:22
  Like no, it came back positive really came back.
• 1:22:24
  No, no, he tested his supplement that came back negative and he
• 1:22:28
  was, it was like an A massive amount of metabolites of
• 1:22:30
  testosterone. Oh, so it wasn't like you barely
• 1:22:33
  were over the line or something it.
• 1:22:34
  Was it was a lot apparently and we saw what was the guy from
• 1:22:40
  Russia or the he came out of Russia.
• 1:22:43
  What? Paser said said.
• 1:22:44
  I got no, no, no. I sent him to you.
• 1:22:46
  Guys recently. Ganeen and.
• 1:22:49
  Ganeen, he was a proven athlete. I just want to say it starts
• 1:22:56
  with K or something like that. Oh, Ivan.
• 1:23:00
  Ivan. Yeah.
• 1:23:01
  Ivan Kirk something. And he proved that it was, he
• 1:23:07
  was, it was tainted. Somebody had gone in.
• 1:23:09
  And Ivan Kartzif, 24 and he proved that it was tainted.
• 1:23:16
  He got a two year sanction. Like obviously something like
• 1:23:22
  that happens. So I don't know.
• 1:23:27
  I mean, the guy was tested multiple times, never got
• 1:23:30
  popped. And then he had a massive amount
• 1:23:31
  of testosterone in there when he didn't even feel like competing.
• 1:23:34
  Like, that's one where I'd be like, I kind of believe the guy.
• 1:23:38
  Yeah. So I do like Leophonitis left
• 1:23:46
  Lefteris, Lefteris or whatever his name was that was, that was
• 1:23:50
  a good one. Lefteris Theophonitis, his
• 1:23:53
  Chandler's story about Left, Left Terrace is one of the best
• 1:23:56
  stories ever. They was in 2019, right?
• 1:24:00
  Because that's when he made the games.
• 1:24:02
  And you can see this on YouTube. You can see left.
• 1:24:06
  Aris like just start. Sprinting this 400 meter and for
• 1:24:10
  first cut and everybody knows everybody knows about first cut
• 1:24:13
  the workout. It's not a workout that you want
• 1:24:15
  to start off sprinting, but he like shoulder checks Chandler
• 1:24:21
  and like you can you've got to really kind of look for it, but
• 1:24:24
  you can see him do it. And then on the on the second
• 1:24:30
  round, Chandler gets back in front of him and I Chandler, I
• 1:24:34
  forget what he's like. He says something in Greek to
• 1:24:37
  Chandler and Chandler. It kind of just like laughs at
• 1:24:40
  him and like says you have a good one.
• 1:24:42
  And then he goes and then I didn't see him in second cut and
• 1:24:46
  and like, and I'm I'm, I'm butchering the story.
• 1:24:48
  Chandler tells it much better, but it was just he like elbow
• 1:24:51
  checked him to in this run and then obviously ended up blowing
• 1:24:55
  up. But and you can see him
• 1:24:57
  sprinting because he's he's like a short bowling ball looking
• 1:25:01
  dude. And I keep waiting for him to
• 1:25:03
  come back. It's he's probably past his band
• 1:25:06
  now, right, 2019. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:25:09
  He's still training. If I got banned, I would just
• 1:25:12
  pump it. I would be on so many.
• 1:25:15
  I would be on so much stuff. I couldn't even breathe right.
• 1:25:23
  Oh. Tell me I'm wrong.
• 1:25:24
  Tell me I'm wrong. I got nothing to tell you.
• 1:25:27
  I mean, I feel that Ricky couldn't.
• 1:25:28
  Ricky was like everybody was watching Ricky.
• 1:25:30
  But they didn't test him. They only tested him like the
• 1:25:33
  month before he got off his band.
• 1:25:36
  Like he. Had he had to show up in four
• 1:25:38
  years looking like Phil Tune? And he's like, I'm clean, I'm
• 1:25:41
  clean, like. For any for him CrossFit.
• 1:25:44
  Phil Tune like he's he's like 60 lbs bigger than he weighs with
• 1:25:49
  CrossFit. I'm not telling any young
• 1:25:52
  CrossFit athletes out there to just stay off the radar until
• 1:25:55
  until you're you're peaked. But if you do, there's that's
• 1:26:02
  the plan. Last one on the new side.
• 1:26:05
  Remember the IF3 Masters World Championships?
• 1:26:07
  The disaster that it was? This article is incredible.
• 1:26:12
  They they released the The Independent report.
• 1:26:16
  They hired Michael Geislinger, a former arbiter for the Court of
• 1:26:22
  Arbitration for Sport, and he was the legal adviser for the
• 1:26:25
  International Biathlon Union and the Union International de
• 1:26:29
  Pentathlon. Morderen 8 pages of walking
• 1:26:37
  through what happened and pretty much everything that Hillary
• 1:26:40
  brought up that I brought up was legit.
• 1:26:44
  They they had one pre planning meeting in like 6 months and
• 1:26:49
  that was on October 28th. The competition was the like the
• 1:26:53
  same weekend as there's a November like right before
• 1:26:56
  Thanksgiving, so one month before the competition.
• 1:26:59
  For anybody out there who's like they don't really have a concept
• 1:27:02
  of like how many meetings you should have for Syndicate, we
• 1:27:06
  met once a week for six months and then leading into the
• 1:27:10
  competition, I think we met like like basically every other day
• 1:27:14
  and then. We met Wilson was like, like
• 1:27:16
  very stringent of like, if you're not on time, don't show
• 1:27:19
  up. Yeah, basically.
• 1:27:21
  Like if you if it's the meeting starts 6:00, you're not allowed
• 1:27:24
  to get there at six O 2. Of course, first day we're on
• 1:27:26
  site where it's two hours away for the first meeting.
• 1:27:30
  But I mean, like we prepped heavy and I'm not saying you
• 1:27:33
  need to do it that way, but like once it is not adequate.
• 1:27:38
  Yeah, especially if you want to be a professional sport like
• 1:27:40
  you're gunning this. Is Olympic level.
• 1:27:42
  Yeah, yeah. And the and the woman that was
• 1:27:45
  in charge of it was a vice president of the board.
• 1:27:49
  They had no budget. So they usually ask for a budget
• 1:27:52
  from the hosting committee, the local committee to host that
• 1:27:55
  provide a budget. That way they can kind of
• 1:27:57
  understand like where things are going, what what what it's going
• 1:28:00
  to look like, how, you know, extravagant it's going to be how
• 1:28:04
  many lights you're going to put provide, you know, like light
• 1:28:07
  show, smoke show, that sort of things.
• 1:28:08
  They didn't do a budget. So then there was unexpected
• 1:28:13
  expenses, weird. People had to like come in with
• 1:28:16
  like extra money just on their own to help fund this thing.
• 1:28:19
  They had eight technical officials.
• 1:28:22
  They needed 20 to 30. The head technical official had
• 1:28:26
  no idea about the IF3 movement standards.
• 1:28:28
  Like they had their whole book of movements, had no idea,
• 1:28:30
  didn't review the the workout announcement documents.
• 1:28:34
  Head technical official is supposed to do the scorecards.
• 1:28:38
  Didn't do that I think. That's insane.
• 1:28:42
  That's that is base level. Like you're running a
• 1:28:46
  competition. You have to have a score sheet
• 1:28:49
  that are that like it's something that I take particular
• 1:28:52
  issue with because of like my experience at crash, like we
• 1:28:57
  always map them out ahead of time because I need to be able
• 1:29:00
  to read them quickly for scoring and they need to make sense.
• 1:29:02
  And like, people who are writing on the scorecards will do weird
• 1:29:06
  stuff, and I understand why they do it, but like, it'll be
• 1:29:09
  confusing to me and I'll have to go and be like, what is this?
• 1:29:12
  And so it's like you have to have good scorecards.
• 1:29:14
  Like it's a mandatory. The thing that I take issue with
• 1:29:17
  here is like 20 to 30 technical officers.
• 1:29:20
  That's ridiculous. Like you're just paying people
• 1:29:22
  to pay people at that point. It's the Olympics for fitness.
• 1:29:28
  I don't know. But the problem is they were so
• 1:29:30
  understaffed that those eight people were doing other things
• 1:29:33
  like they were doing like whatever they were supposed to
• 1:29:36
  do the programming. So the, the Australian
• 1:29:41
  federation was supposed to provide the programming.
• 1:29:44
  They didn't get it to them until the 22nd of October.
• 1:29:48
  And they released, they released the workouts, I think 3 weeks
• 1:29:50
  ahead of time. And so there's no time to
• 1:29:53
  review, make adjustments, make sure that like logistics were
• 1:29:55
  working and they just had to like sign off on it and start
• 1:29:58
  making everything. The equipment and the, the
• 1:30:04
  athletes were compliant. The wall balls were thrown up on
• 1:30:06
  against a post. The Independent report.
• 1:30:10
  That's OK, That's OK. No, it was just on a post.
• 1:30:12
  There was no like target, right? They literally just had a pole
• 1:30:17
  with a line on it and that's what you had to throw to like
• 1:30:19
  it. I don't mind that at all.
• 1:30:21
  It's accuracy. That's what they said, basically
• 1:30:23
  it was fair for everybody and all.
• 1:30:25
  The only requirement is that you have to throw it to a certain
• 1:30:28
  height. So I'm.
• 1:30:29
  OK with that. Yeah, I'm OK.
• 1:30:30
  Yeah. It said athletes shut up.
• 1:30:33
  They did go into the detail about the ski ergs and the truck
• 1:30:35
  breaking down. CrossFit Touring didn't have
• 1:30:37
  enough ski ergs to help replace them.
• 1:30:42
  Circle 21 scoring the Competition Corner equivalent
• 1:30:46
  editor. They there's a confusion whether
• 1:30:50
  they're going to have somebody on site to help them.
• 1:30:53
  They said they never were going to.
• 1:30:54
  They provided documentation and videos on how to do stuff in the
• 1:30:58
  app, which apparently Circle 21 is used for all of IF3
• 1:31:03
  competitions, and they never took them up on a call of how to
• 1:31:07
  do things. And so when all of this stuff
• 1:31:09
  started happening and all of the schedules got changed, they
• 1:31:15
  didn't know how to go into Circle 21 and make the schedules
• 1:31:18
  quickly. So then they went to Competition
• 1:31:21
  Corner instead. It started putting the schedules
• 1:31:23
  in Competition Corner. Which?
• 1:31:25
  Confused. Everybody was like, where do I
• 1:31:27
  go? God?
• 1:31:29
  So that happened. That's pretty.
• 1:31:32
  Wild. The endurance test, you know,
• 1:31:33
  the one that had, you know, they're going in waves of 10
• 1:31:36
  minutes and yeah, like everything was going on.
• 1:31:40
  The scorecards. They didn't have scorecards for
• 1:31:42
  the event. So the judges the just had
• 1:31:44
  pieces of paper and we're trying to write down like lanes and
• 1:31:48
  names and times. And it was just like a mad, like
• 1:31:52
  the people were turning. Into mad pieces of paper.
• 1:31:55
  That was like confusing, 'cause there's like numbers with lines
• 1:31:58
  drawn on it and you couldn't tell who was who. 30% of the
• 1:32:01
  scores were appealed. They turned it in and some
• 1:32:08
  athletes didn't have scores because nobody wrote their time
• 1:32:11
  down. That poor appeal person.
• 1:32:15
  You can read the entire full page report on.
• 1:32:17
  You wouldn't even know where to start.
• 1:32:19
  You'd be like, I just can't. I like I.
• 1:32:21
  Can't process. I need a minute I.
• 1:32:23
  Need a couple days? Yeah, and then they allowed
• 1:32:27
  anybody that was in mentioned in the article.
• 1:32:29
  So the founder of Circle 21 got to say, you know, his piece, and
• 1:32:33
  so did Melanie Robinson, the former IF3 vice president.
• 1:32:39
  So she got to say her piece too. So an interesting article.
• 1:32:43
  Go check it out. The barbell spin.
• 1:32:45
  It's crazy. So I have threes doing great.
• 1:32:48
  They're. Hey the the actual World
• 1:32:52
  Championships that happened a month later where Miram von Rohr
• 1:32:55
  won, they went off fine. I'm sure they did the thing.
• 1:32:59
  When I read that article, there's like, just like the AFF
• 1:33:05
  personnel didn't give it stuff on time.
• 1:33:07
  There's a million titles and it reminds me of when like I was on
• 1:33:12
  a staff council and like the IF3 just seems so, so much
• 1:33:16
  bureaucracy that it's like, OK, like everybody's just playing
• 1:33:20
  their own game. It it's just too much.
• 1:33:22
  Like it's way too much. I understand you're trying to be
• 1:33:25
  professional but like hey maybe chill out.
• 1:33:28
  There were 9 action items to improve it going forward, so
• 1:33:33
  we'll see if that ever happens. Next up, ready for some blind
• 1:33:39
  rankings? Let's do it.
• 1:33:42
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• 1:33:44
  Spin saves 10% on your best sleep mask out there.
• 1:33:49
  Let's see. I mean, we have some.
• 1:33:53
  Go ahead. Sorry, two weeks ago we did
• 1:33:59
  breakout athletes for the men. This time we're doing the women.
• 1:34:05
  Breakout athletes. Women.
• 1:34:06
  Breakout. Athletes.
• 1:34:07
  Women breakouts. Yeah, so which women have?
• 1:34:10
  Not made the games correct. That is correct.
• 1:34:12
  In 2026, they'll make their rookie debut.
• 1:34:15
  This is going to be tough. Yeah.
• 1:34:18
  I really there's less breakout women.
• 1:34:20
  Well, you're. Based on my analysis, you are
• 1:34:23
  100% correct, John. Yeah, 'cause all the women have
• 1:34:27
  broken out. You're in a weak place for John
• 1:34:32
  and me both. No, I'm good.
• 1:34:35
  Well, why are my weak? 'Cause you are you, your
• 1:34:37
  expertise is the best. Yeah, but I know who the people
• 1:34:41
  these people are. OK.
• 1:34:45
  I no, you're right. You're fair.
• 1:34:46
  That's fair. I'm not going to be able to give
• 1:34:47
  good hints though. Yeah, it's OK, OK.
• 1:34:50
  All right. First one up, here we go.
• 1:34:54
  All right, let's we can do this with one word.
• 1:34:58
  Type follow. Ready.
• 1:35:00
  Go Mason. Griffin.
• 1:35:05
  We're talking about women. Oh, we're talking about oh shit,
• 1:35:10
  Mason. You said his name.
• 1:35:14
  Mason Griffin, Oh, Trista Smith. There we go.
• 1:35:18
  Ding Ding. I would say 3. 33's good.
• 1:35:24
  Three like. I feel like she's on the cusp
• 1:35:26
  like and not on the cusp all at the same time.
• 1:35:30
  Yeah, I I think she'd have to improve.
• 1:35:34
  Yeah, I think, I think the semifinal structure of 23 and 24
• 1:35:39
  suited her better than this the the sanctional air style
• 1:35:48
  competition where you have to be top couple.
• 1:35:51
  Yeah, I, I, I agree. But I the online semi final
• 1:35:55
  though when it's at home, like she does good online stuff.
• 1:35:58
  So I she she could make it through that.
• 1:36:00
  For me, it's the fact that like, she's like, I want to enjoy
• 1:36:03
  college, which in some ways I think goes to her benefit, but
• 1:36:07
  then in other ways I think works against her.
• 1:36:09
  I, I don't like. So when I say like she's both on
• 1:36:12
  the cusp and off the cusp, it's, it's not an insult.
• 1:36:15
  It's just like I can't tell. Yeah, you need a healthy
• 1:36:18
  obsession, and that's been unhealthy for a lot of young,
• 1:36:23
  younger women, and it's a tough line.
• 1:36:25
  Oh, see, I think, I think it's the other way.
• 1:36:28
  I like, I think that people pour themselves too much like it was.
• 1:36:32
  It all goes back to Brent with the all in thing like he went
• 1:36:36
  all in and then didn't didn't do well.
• 1:36:37
  Worse. Worse Yours.
• 1:36:39
  Yeah, it's like, I think you need an outlet that's not, you
• 1:36:43
  know, CrossFit. OK.
• 1:36:44
  I feel like that's the reason you just said she wasn't going
• 1:36:47
  to make the games, but. But but I'm on the fence about
• 1:36:49
  it. I think it's a good, I do think
• 1:36:51
  it's a great thing and actually could go to her benefit.
• 1:36:53
  But then I also think like it could definitely work against
• 1:36:56
  her. OK, we'll we'll agree.
• 1:36:59
  I think we're saying the same. Thing.
• 1:37:00
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, Next up.
• 1:37:05
  All right, I got this one. Sweet Home Alabama.
• 1:37:09
  Come on. You can do it, Tyler.
• 1:37:11
  You can do it. The Movie.
• 1:37:16
  Reese lit wood. Yeah, I was going to say Sidney
• 1:37:22
  Smith because she's in Alabama, but then I was like, no, John
• 1:37:25
  wouldn't do that. Oh dude, I think this is #1
• 1:37:29
  she's. In California now, she went out
• 1:37:30
  there to. California, I think, I think
• 1:37:32
  she's going to make the games this year.
• 1:37:33
  Yeah, she's, I would put her a two or one.
• 1:37:37
  What'd you say, John? I think she's #1.
• 1:37:39
  Yeah, I would put her number. One Who are we missing?
• 1:37:42
  I don't know. I feel like there's one girl out
• 1:37:45
  there that's also really good. Oh dude like Maddie fouts I
• 1:37:49
  think could make the games too. And she she beat recent crash.
• 1:37:54
  She just has a. Lot of stuff.
• 1:37:56
  A lot of like home run type stuff.
• 1:37:59
  I would say Reese. She gets lucky with the
• 1:38:01
  programming. Reese is a safer bit.
• 1:38:06
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, she's been there longer,
• 1:38:08
  OK. I'm good with it.
• 1:38:10
  All right, Next up. OK, big.
• 1:38:24
  What have we talked about, John? Which you're not allowed to do
• 1:38:27
  this with women. Go ahead, just name.
• 1:38:28
  Name the name that comes to your mind.
• 1:38:32
  I don't know. Name's got to come to your mind.
• 1:38:37
  It doesn't. You got to try name somebody.
• 1:38:43
  I shot you got to give me a better hand.
• 1:38:45
  The biggest woman Crossfitter that you know.
• 1:38:50
  Big. Like if she was standing next to
• 1:38:54
  you, I think she's bigger than you.
• 1:38:56
  Oh man, what's her face from Australia?
• 1:39:01
  Not that one. You got it.
• 1:39:06
  You got it now? Yeah, it is.
• 1:39:09
  Yes, Sir. Black.
• 1:39:10
  Yep, OK, I would say 5 five. Wow, yeah, there's no more TFX.
• 1:39:19
  She's not going to get lucky like that.
• 1:39:20
  Like she she could have, could not have asked for a better semi
• 1:39:23
  final. And like, like she, I'm not, I'm
• 1:39:27
  not saying it's impossible. She can, she's just going to
• 1:39:30
  have to aerobically get, get better.
• 1:39:33
  What what? What team is she with now?
• 1:39:35
  What? Which camp?
• 1:39:36
  I think she works with Dex, doesn't she?
• 1:39:39
  Or or no? Am I wrong about that?
• 1:39:41
  I think she moved camps, didn't she?
• 1:39:44
  Hannah, yeah. Am I wrong?
• 1:39:46
  Parent now. Yeah, so I put her chances up.
• 1:39:49
  Dude working with parent I think is no joke OK?
• 1:39:53
  Breaking news Breaking news from CrossFit.
• 1:39:57
  Mike Halpin just posted on his story that he's not doing the
• 1:40:00
  open now. Oh look, we just lost 16
• 1:40:02
  viewers. It happens all right.
• 1:40:07
  Next up. Wait, he just posted he's not
• 1:40:10
  doing the open now? Yeah, it is a long story.
• 1:40:12
  I lots of words. I, I don't I, I, I feel the same
• 1:40:17
  for Halpin as I feel about Danny Spiegel, but in wildly different
• 1:40:21
  ways. But said the same feelings.
• 1:40:23
  Same, same but different. Yeah.
• 1:40:26
  Very, very same. All right, Next up.
• 1:40:31
  OK, you've got the best of both worlds.
• 1:40:47
  Go ahead, go ahead. You know it.
• 1:40:51
  It's. Ringing a bell?
• 1:40:54
  Rock out the show and then you've already know it's a
• 1:41:00
  rhyming name. He.
• 1:41:01
  Doesn't know that one. I I know Zack and Cody's stuck
• 1:41:04
  in my head and I know that's the wrong answer.
• 1:41:06
  It's not that. It's not that best of both.
• 1:41:11
  There's, there's always going to be another mountain.
• 1:41:17
  I'm always going to want to make it.
• 1:41:19
  Move. So not Miley Wade.
• 1:41:23
  There we go there. We go good.
• 1:41:26
  I don't know why I couldn't bring up Hannah Montana.
• 1:41:28
  Two or four. That's right.
• 1:41:29
  Wrecking Ball would have been way better.
• 1:41:31
  That did not come to my mind. That would have been way.
• 1:41:35
  Better. Born in the.
• 1:41:36
  Or what? What's the born in?
• 1:41:37
  The USA not. Born in the.
• 1:41:39
  USA party in the USA. Party in the USAI didn't.
• 1:41:41
  Know how to like start that one OK.
• 1:41:44
  Miley Wade. Two or four this.
• 1:41:47
  Is tough because I think Miley's a year away.
• 1:41:50
  I think Miley's going to make the games and I think she's
• 1:41:52
  going to be really fun, but I think she's a year away from
• 1:41:55
  being where Reese Littlewood is. I think I agree.
• 1:41:58
  So and I but I would say 4. How old is she 19?
• 1:42:04
  No, she's turning 18 this year. Oh boy.
• 1:42:07
  I would say, I would say 4, but it's not because I don't think
• 1:42:12
  she, I think she's just a year away.
• 1:42:13
  She's a year of development away.
• 1:42:16
  I I mean like if she made. It, I wouldn't be surprised,
• 1:42:19
  used to get a little bit bigger, you know, you know what I mean,
• 1:42:21
  like. I mean dude, 18 is a crazy age
• 1:42:23
  like that. You just start growing.
• 1:42:27
  I would say 4 as well, but it's an if I if she goes, I'm not
• 1:42:31
  surprised at all. I'll be shocked if she makes it
• 1:42:34
  this year, but I'm not saying it's impossible, but I'll be
• 1:42:37
  shocked. All right.
• 1:42:39
  And the last one. Dude I just want to say this and
• 1:42:42
  I'm going to probably ruin it on this.
• 1:42:44
  I've gone 4 for four so far. It's the first time, probably
• 1:42:47
  ever. Yeah, dude, we're in lock step,
• 1:42:49
  man. I feel good about where we're
• 1:42:52
  at. Get this last one Yolo.
• 1:43:00
  Folo. Let's go.
• 1:43:02
  At number. Two folo first.
• 1:43:04
  I know. #2. I don't.
• 1:43:08
  I think it's right. I think the list is.
• 1:43:10
  Really. Yeah, here it comes down.
• 1:43:13
  Do you think Trista Smith is fitter than Erica Folo?
• 1:43:16
  That's what it comes down to at Erica.
• 1:43:18
  Folo's best no. I and I agree with Tyler at
• 1:43:21
  Erica Folo's, but like, I know Erica Folo has had some
• 1:43:24
  competitions where she's been really, really bad, but we've
• 1:43:27
  also seen competitions where she's been really, really good
• 1:43:29
  and. Which Erica are we going to get?
• 1:43:30
  Yes, I I think Erica Folo at her best is better than Trista
• 1:43:34
  Smith. Yeah, we've seen Folo at her
• 1:43:36
  best once. She was really good.
• 1:43:39
  We're living off the high still. We are, we are living off the
• 1:43:41
  high. Two years later, we're still.
• 1:43:45
  Dude, we nailed, we nailed all of the guesses and we nailed
• 1:43:49
  the. This was.
• 1:43:49
  Probably our best In Sync that we've ever been.
• 1:43:52
  And put. I think I'd put Trista over.
• 1:43:56
  Well, it's been you're not blind, so you're the person you.
• 1:44:00
  Covered. I'd also probably put Hannah
• 1:44:01
  over Miley at this for this year.
• 1:44:04
  Dude with the with the parent situation.
• 1:44:09
  I mean, Hannah earned herself a pro card of the WFP John, OH.
• 1:44:12
  That's cool. That's awesome for her.
• 1:44:14
  I'm happy for her. Yeah, just saying, Just saying.
• 1:44:22
  That's probably a detriment. She'll.
• 1:44:26
  Train less. She'll just focus on that.
• 1:44:29
  Keep on competing, that's fair. You hit the gold mine there and
• 1:44:32
  you're like, all right, baby. I think if TFX was still a semi
• 1:44:37
  final, Hannah Black is like 2. There's legends now.
• 1:44:43
  Yeah, but Jr. is helping with that.
• 1:44:45
  Like, they're not. It's not.
• 1:44:46
  Easy though. Yeah, yeah, he's.
• 1:44:49
  Supposed to. What's the Aussie guy's name on
• 1:44:51
  the TTT podcast? He's a coach there, Adam.
• 1:44:57
  Rex Chapman? No, not Rex Chapman.
• 1:45:00
  Somebody in the chat don't know he was talking about this on
• 1:45:03
  their show about he made more money at the WFP than he's ever
• 1:45:08
  made doing CrossFit. Which?
• 1:45:10
  Oh, Gilpin. Gilpin, Matt Gilpin.
• 1:45:12
  So yeah, he's made more money doing that, which I mean, like,
• 1:45:16
  he's not saying a lot. Most people don't make any money
• 1:45:18
  or just spend money doing CrossFit, which is fine.
• 1:45:21
  But I wonder how many people get hit by that bug where it's like
• 1:45:26
  they know that their travel is going to be paid for if they
• 1:45:28
  make a pro card and then they know they're going to make a
• 1:45:30
  little bit of money. So they just go all in.
• 1:45:32
  Like how much? Especially for the the, you
• 1:45:35
  know, the bubble athletes. Yeah, no, I think it were WFP is
• 1:45:38
  made for the Hannah Blacks of the world.
• 1:45:41
  Yeah, like that's who's going to profit the most because the top
• 1:45:45
  tier athletes, it's not going to be good enough.
• 1:45:49
  And then for the athletes right underneath them, it's going to
• 1:45:51
  be like the most they've ever gotten.
• 1:45:53
  So I I think it's perfect. It's honestly like a a really
• 1:45:57
  good minor league. System, but it's I think it's
• 1:46:00
  detrimental to the CrossFit, like growing the CrossFit
• 1:46:04
  athlete. I hear you.
• 1:46:07
  But but if you look at it like the minor leagues where it's
• 1:46:09
  completely different, it's not they don't, you know what I
• 1:46:11
  mean? And we don't look at them like
• 1:46:13
  they're conflicting with the Major League.
• 1:46:15
  Well, like it's just a developmental.
• 1:46:18
  I think it can turn into that. They won't.
• 1:46:22
  It. Could you're?
• 1:46:23
  Probably right, but that's how I look at the type of athlete
• 1:46:26
  that's going to end up like flourishing from it is the hand
• 1:46:30
  of blacks for the world. Yeah.
• 1:46:34
  Yeah, I don't know how much Gilpin end up making.
• 1:46:36
  But and even like, like go ahead.
• 1:46:38
  Sorry, sorry, sorry I. Mean because he didn't end up
• 1:46:41
  qualifying either so. Right.
• 1:46:45
  But him getting, I think he got a pro slot at the finals.
• 1:46:50
  Yeah. So he was guaranteed $5000 or
• 1:46:53
  something like that. Plus he made, I think he made
• 1:46:55
  some money one of the events, something like that, maybe both,
• 1:46:58
  I'm not sure. Let's see.
• 1:47:03
  All right, 2026, we got some news coming up out of the next
• 1:47:06
  year. I think we'll start with as we
• 1:47:08
  were talking about WFP, we'll just move into more WFP news.
• 1:47:15
  It sounds like Tyler returning to Indianapolis, it's not as
• 1:47:18
  close anymore to you, but no. It's not.
• 1:47:20
  I won't be able to just run over anymore.
• 1:47:23
  Yeah, we know that Copenhagen will host the finals.
• 1:47:25
  We don't know anything else about the schedule, but Mr.
• 1:47:29
  Wooley was on hybrid Fitness media.
• 1:47:32
  If you watch Tiller's video today, you saw his thoughts on
• 1:47:36
  that podcast. But Mr. Wooley, let's hear from
• 1:47:39
  him. I just talked to one of their
• 1:47:41
  media guys a couple of days ago. He randomly called me at home.
• 1:47:43
  I was asking him, you know, when are the next events, you know,
• 1:47:46
  what's Tour 2 going to look like?
• 1:47:48
  And so I might actually pop over to Indianapolis and see at least
• 1:47:53
  one event next year. Yeah, I think their first tour
• 1:47:55
  stop's going to be in Europe. And then Indianapolis would be
• 1:47:59
  like tour stop 2-3 or four, I forget which one.
• 1:48:03
  Excuse me? Indianapolis.
• 1:48:05
  They're going back to Indianapolis.
• 1:48:07
  Is he supposed to like, save this stuff?
• 1:48:10
  John, it's the WFP. There are no rules there.
• 1:48:15
  You act like there's rules, but there ain't no rules.
• 1:48:18
  Also, while we're on this PC, random call being.
• 1:48:22
  Super. Not our scheduled team call.
• 1:48:25
  It's amazing. Blind or?
• 1:48:29
  Was it Patrick? Was Patrick the one that called?
• 1:48:32
  I don't know, PC. Let us know, yeah.
• 1:48:34
  Yeah, it was. But while we're on this topic,
• 1:48:38
  get your King Kong bags. Yeah.
• 1:48:42
  Use code spin. Code spin, say 15% off.
• 1:48:46
  Yeah, the code's out there. Go use it. 1010% off. 10% off.
• 1:48:52
  This feels like a guilty man. That's exactly what a guilty man
• 1:48:55
  would say. So him saying unless the
• 1:49:01
  Indianapolis thing doesn't catch my eye as much as him saying 2-3
• 1:49:05
  or four or 4, like Down's under the impression that they're not
• 1:49:11
  going to do as many events this year.
• 1:49:14
  Right. I don't, I don't know.
• 1:49:18
  I don't, I don't think they. Should I don't think anybody
• 1:49:20
  knows. I don't think they know.
• 1:49:21
  Woolly knows. No, I don't.
• 1:49:24
  I think Woolly heard some stuff and like, like, I don't think
• 1:49:26
  he's lying about the stuff he heard, but I don't think they
• 1:49:29
  know. You don't think that WFP knows?
• 1:49:35
  PCPC with what I'm saying does, is there a schedule, a known
• 1:49:41
  schedule for 2026 world fitness project?
• 1:49:43
  Blink twice if there's 4 events. Yeah.
• 1:49:48
  So we know what we've been told is there's.
• 1:49:50
  More events and then and then. A lack of an answer means
• 1:49:53
  there's 4 events. Right.
• 1:49:57
  So we, we, we've heard my Orca is the first event heard that
• 1:50:01
  was supposed to be the last weekend of March.
• 1:50:04
  That's also the same weekend as quarterfinals.
• 1:50:07
  Whoops, we know the finals are in Copenhagen.
• 1:50:12
  It's. Also two weeks from the
• 1:50:13
  Wadapalooza. That is correct, John.
• 1:50:18
  Yes, the what? What Ansley and Roger had said
• 1:50:25
  is that basically they're going to do 1 every quarter.
• 1:50:28
  That was the initial plan based on who owns CrossFit.
• 1:50:32
  Now there's four quarters. How many quarters?
• 1:50:35
  So that'll be March, that'll be March, then you'd have a June or
• 1:50:39
  July, which with the games moving into July, that makes
• 1:50:43
  things trickier. You've got August or September,
• 1:50:47
  that's right, happy birthday. And then you've got December
• 1:50:50
  again, and I don't think you can put it in November because of
• 1:50:57
  Rogue. Oh yeah, I can't do that.
• 1:51:03
  So I don't know what they're going to do, but it sounds like
• 1:51:06
  they're going back to Indianapolis.
• 1:51:10
  Oh, nothing. It'll probably.
• 1:51:13
  I don't know if it will pop off any better than Indianapolis.
• 1:51:16
  So I reckon they, I wonder if they just got a deal from that.
• 1:51:19
  I think I heard them say that they it was, they could go back
• 1:51:24
  and things would be a lot easier, right?
• 1:51:26
  Because, you know, all the logistics, right?
• 1:51:28
  So like, you know how to set up, you know.
• 1:51:30
  Yeah. So it doesn't surprise me.
• 1:51:33
  It's not a bad move from their standpoint to go back to it.
• 1:51:40
  But I thought it was interesting that again, we've gotten another
• 1:51:44
  podcast, somebody on the show, this one not even technically
• 1:51:46
  affiliated with World Fitness Project, sharing news.
• 1:51:49
  It's not even official yet. Right.
• 1:51:52
  So. I hate these like rage bait
• 1:51:54
  podcasts that just. Me.
• 1:51:56
  Too click bait. Anything.
• 1:51:59
  Click bait podcast. Don't waste your two hours
• 1:52:01
  watching. You should.
• 1:52:02
  Not listen to any of them. All of them.
• 1:52:06
  Yeah, Speaking of Watapalooza Gabby Magala.
• 1:52:12
  Snap, Alexis. Raptis and Paige Rogers.
• 1:52:16
  I wasn't talking about her Achilles.
• 1:52:18
  Oh, snap. Yeah, Paige, Alexis and Gabby
• 1:52:23
  going to Miami Beach in March. Team of three just girls.
• 1:52:28
  That's a good team. The other team that's been
• 1:52:32
  announced Emily Rolf, Alex Gazan and Danielle Brandon.
• 1:52:38
  Did Gazan and Danielle squash their beef?
• 1:52:43
  I don't know. That was immediately what?
• 1:52:46
  I thought when I saw this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:52:50
  And Danielle posted something with Gazan, like Gazan Center.
• 1:52:58
  Like, don't worry about the spec in your neighbor's eye when you
• 1:53:01
  have a log in your own just scripture.
• 1:53:03
  It's in Matthew 7. But the.
• 1:53:05
  But apparently Gazan texted her that and she put it on her
• 1:53:08
  story, too. I don't know.
• 1:53:13
  And I probably could find out, but I don't care.
• 1:53:18
  You're going to find out. No, I don't.
• 1:53:21
  How do you not care, John? Why would I?
• 1:53:25
  You need to. Why would you tell you that?
• 1:53:27
  John, that drug is just so good. What the drug of gossip.
• 1:53:32
  Yeah. I do think it was interesting
• 1:53:34
  that in the in this post for Gabby, Alex, Alexis and Page
• 1:53:40
  that lab management was tagged in it.
• 1:53:44
  I thought that was. Wonder if why is that
• 1:53:46
  interesting? Find the teams.
• 1:53:51
  Why are you tagging the agents? PR.
• 1:53:58
  In the in the Yeti girls, the tags Snorri is tagged Cooper's
• 1:54:02
  tagged lab management's tagged, Bachlin management's tagged 04
• 1:54:10
  agency which is Emily's like they're tagging all the agents
• 1:54:13
  in these things. Hey Dylan, can we get A tag
• 1:54:16
  that's. Right.
• 1:54:17
  No, don't bother, Dylan. He's going to do some stuff for
• 1:54:21
  us. Is he?
• 1:54:23
  Cool. Right, Tyler?
• 1:54:25
  Let us know. Absolutely, yeah.
• 1:54:27
  So Gabby Mcgawa coming back. Also, if you want to watch the
• 1:54:31
  video from training think tank CTP put out a good video of Yeah
• 1:54:35
  Gabby. It's great video.
• 1:54:38
  Coming back. So check that one out.
• 1:54:41
  What else? What else?
• 1:54:44
  What other news is there? The mayhem, The rogue point
• 1:54:48
  systems updated. T is down the 4th.
• 1:54:52
  I do have thought, I think I feel like you're, you should be
• 1:54:54
  interested in this, John. OK.
• 1:54:57
  Are we going to pull it up? Yeah.
• 1:55:01
  We need to, we need to talk about how this is is scored.
• 1:55:06
  We rearrange our course. We already know it's not great
• 1:55:11
  because the Rogue Invitational like gives themselves points
• 1:55:15
  like like the most amount of points for competing at their
• 1:55:18
  thing. So it's really hard to get new
• 1:55:21
  people in. But but are they weighted that
• 1:55:23
  way? So it's like how how is?
• 1:55:26
  This was, this was made for Rogue.
• 1:55:30
  This was a scoring system, a point system.
• 1:55:32
  It's a three-year look back. So it's it's 2022 through 2025.
• 1:55:38
  And so as just like the the haunt method and all that stuff
• 1:55:41
  that CrossFit came up with, it was like a look back, right?
• 1:55:44
  CrossFit was a what was a two year look back.
• 1:55:47
  And as this year's open came on, then two years open would roll
• 1:55:51
  off. Same thing applies to this.
• 1:55:53
  They've slowly added more stuff, they've added in Wadapalooza,
• 1:55:58
  they've added in the W, the WFP, but it's like John said, it's
• 1:56:05
  taking the Rogue scores like your placement at Rogue, which
• 1:56:11
  is then adding to it. And it's fine for if you want to
• 1:56:14
  invite to Rogue. It's a little different when you
• 1:56:18
  think about the CrossFit Game season.
• 1:56:22
  I agree because it gives like Laura didn't do the games, he
• 1:56:25
  didn't do the games, Danny Spiegel didn't do the games, and
• 1:56:27
  they're all going to be in here because they all did rope.
• 1:56:30
  But. And and they haven't been in the
• 1:56:33
  games in a while. What doesn't make sense to me is
• 1:56:37
  like OK see how Laura has 14183 points .38?
• 1:56:44
  How did they come up with that number?
• 1:56:46
  So every year that it gets further removed, you get less
• 1:56:49
  percentage. So the percentage of the of the
• 1:56:53
  points that they were given at that event.
• 1:56:55
  So this is where my qualms. You win, you win 1000 at the
• 1:56:59
  games and then like the second year when you have two games,
• 1:57:03
  it's the full points for the current games and it's like 75%
• 1:57:07
  for. But they take your place and
• 1:57:09
  they have a scoring table that they use or they're taking the
• 1:57:12
  points. You make at the event The games
• 1:57:14
  is worth 1000. Rogue is worth 1000 semifinals
• 1:57:18
  is based on whatever strength of strength of field that they
• 1:57:22
  determine gets a certain number of points.
• 1:57:25
  Open and quarterfinals get a certain number and then World
• 1:57:28
  Fitness Project and WADA Palooza are based off of strength of
• 1:57:32
  field, but there's a Max points that you can get.
• 1:57:35
  So like I can't remember, I don't know what the Max is, but
• 1:57:39
  like Wadapalooza can't get a Max of 1000.
• 1:57:41
  It's like 200 or whatever 2. 50 I thought it's like. 350 or
• 1:57:46
  something. I thought like I don't know how
• 1:57:48
  many points they give out at Wadapalooza, but it's like if
• 1:57:51
  you had 3000 points at Wadapalooza.
• 1:57:54
  That or WFP rather, if you got those 3000 points that carry
• 1:57:59
  that directly into this thing. And I was like, well, the WFP
• 1:58:01
  has more events and more. So I was like, this is
• 1:58:04
  automatically stupid because you could get like a ridiculous like
• 1:58:08
  you can just change the number of events and you can't ever
• 1:58:10
  beat that event. No, they said a Max that you
• 1:58:12
  could get for it, which is what PGA and whatever does.
• 1:58:19
  I think it's going to. I think what's going to happen
• 1:58:22
  is be the same thing as what happened last year is they're
• 1:58:24
  going to invite the 15 because they have 15 spots for this
• 1:58:29
  rogue point system and then five wild cards.
• 1:58:31
  Yeah, at some point as they invite all 15 of these top
• 1:58:37
  athletes on the rogue leaderboard, someone down the
• 1:58:41
  list like Maddie Sturtz, like, you know what, I don't think I
• 1:58:43
  can qualify against Danielle, Ariel, Alex and Emma.
• 1:58:49
  I'm not going to fly over from Australia.
• 1:58:51
  Sure. And they you get to a certain
• 1:58:54
  point, you're like, I'm out. And what happens is it's like,
• 1:58:59
  we're just like last year, how many people ended up backing out
• 1:59:01
  or dropping out or declining their invite?
• 1:59:05
  If I was mayhem, I wouldn't want people to decline, right?
• 1:59:12
  Like if they earn their way through there through the opener
• 1:59:15
  quarterfinals, that's one thing. But and they say no, I don't
• 1:59:18
  want to go. But you're just like saying I
• 1:59:20
  want the best athletes and all these people are going to say
• 1:59:22
  no. And now I got to go scramble to
• 1:59:24
  find back fills. Right.
• 1:59:26
  I don't like that piece of it. I don't like the Tia is not at
• 1:59:29
  the top of this leaderboard. Like that makes it, I mean like
• 1:59:32
  in the context of mayhem, it doesn't really matter because
• 1:59:34
  she would get an invite regardless and she's pregnant so
• 1:59:38
  it really doesn't matter. But like, how is Tia Not like
• 1:59:43
  she needs to be #1 she's. Been pregnant, she's missed a
• 1:59:49
  games and two rogues. I really do.
• 1:59:51
  Four year span. Yeah.
• 1:59:53
  I don't hate many things that Rogue does.
• 1:59:56
  This is 1. That the, the problem that I
• 1:59:58
  have with it is it it works in golf like and and you can
• 2:00:01
  understand why like say a Tiger Woods is not up there or like,
• 2:00:04
  you know, when he was injured or coming back and all that stuff
• 2:00:07
  because he didn't compete enough.
• 2:00:09
  But all the athletes understand and cared about it.
• 2:00:13
  Sure, right. And so they knew like, hey, if I
• 2:00:15
  don't compete in these mini tournaments, I'm not going to be
• 2:00:17
  at the top world rankings and it matters to me.
• 2:00:20
  It it matters all year. But nobody's going to compete at
• 2:00:23
  the World Fitness Project because of Rogue's ranking.
• 2:00:26
  Right. Well, nobody.
• 2:00:27
  'S going to go compete at Wadapalooza because of Rogue's
• 2:00:29
  ranking. Like they compete what they want
• 2:00:30
  to compete with and it it doesn't really matter.
• 2:00:33
  The person at the top doesn't care about the games.
• 2:00:36
  Also true. Like I don't think that's like
• 2:00:41
  if you're using this for the game season, the person at the
• 2:00:44
  literal top could care less about the games and it's because
• 2:00:49
  all she cares about is Rogue, right?
• 2:00:52
  Like Gee is probably in here and he hasn't been in the game for
• 2:00:56
  two years, Like, but he cares about Rogue.
• 2:00:59
  And like if they out, they're like Rogue is worth more than
• 2:01:02
  anything else. And it just, yeah, I don't think
• 2:01:06
  you can use that for a game season or you subtract the
• 2:01:09
  points from the Rogue Invitational because it makes it
• 2:01:15
  it, it skews it. Yeah, it it, it's.
• 2:01:19
  Because if he wants confirmation.
• 2:01:21
  By it bias. Dude.
• 2:01:22
  So I think, I think it doesn't matter Patrick that she cares
• 2:01:28
  about Rogue the most. It's like Mayhem's using it for
• 2:01:31
  their semi final. It's a part of the game season.
• 2:01:34
  I think if you did the list but then you subtracted Rogue
• 2:01:36
  Invitational points. Because it's a better list.
• 2:01:39
  Because it does skew it. You have a more accurate
• 2:01:41
  representation of the game season and or look back of you
• 2:01:47
  know what that list should be, I bet it's a more accurate
• 2:01:51
  representation. And what's funny, Laura probably
• 2:01:55
  still makes the list. Sure, you.
• 2:01:57
  Know what I mean? But she doesn't.
• 2:01:59
  She's not at the top. And Tia, I bet she is at the
• 2:02:04
  top. I don't know.
• 2:02:04
  It'd be between Tia and Danielle.
• 2:02:07
  I think so. No, dude, I think so because
• 2:02:09
  there's 300. Tia has less points on the
• 2:02:11
  Invitational than Ariel and Danielle because she hasn't.
• 2:02:14
  She's got 300, OK. She has 100 from the win, but
• 2:02:19
  she has 1587 versus 1822 and 1700.
• 2:02:22
  So no, Tia would still be behind Danielle and Ariel.
• 2:02:24
  Because she would. Be but she hasn't competed in
• 2:02:27
  those times, so I don't know. We'll keep an eye on it.
• 2:02:31
  I think they're they want to send out invites here soon, so
• 2:02:33
  we'll see. But she's only she's only 24
• 2:02:37
  points away from Ariel Lowen. Ariel Lowen would lose more than
• 2:02:40
  24 points. She'd be ahead of Ariel Lowen.
• 2:02:43
  Ariel would lose 1800 and. And see a loser 1500.
• 2:02:47
  Oh, OK. Yeah, you're right.
• 2:02:48
  You see what I'm saying? Yeah.
• 2:02:51
  You're right. Whatever.
• 2:02:55
  Like it makes it way more accurate.
• 2:02:59
  But you have to include rogue to some degree.
• 2:03:01
  No, you don't. I could because because rogue.
• 2:03:03
  Excuse it, Rogue. You can't.
• 2:03:05
  You shouldn't helps. You shouldn't.
• 2:03:07
  Based on the fact that it is confirmation bias, you just
• 2:03:09
  shouldn't. I understand why you want to,
• 2:03:12
  but you just shouldn't. I I get like it just but.
• 2:03:17
  Then why would you include anything else other than the
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  game? Why would you have to listen in
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  general? You can just invite the athletes
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  you want anyway. It's.
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  They do what they want. Like you just do the top 15 of
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  the 2025 CrossFit Games and then invite whoever and then the next
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  5 are a qualifier. I don't know why we got away
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  from that. I that's fair.
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  I I want to know the click traction on this like it's this
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  site gets visited what twice a year?
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  By me. Yeah, by you.
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  And it's like no one else is looking at this.
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  And probably Sprague like pulls it up every now and again just
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  to like motivate himself. But besides that, it's like, you
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  know, I, I just don't, no one's looking at this.
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  And so I don't know why Rogue did it, really.
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  Justify their picks. Yeah, keep that in house I.
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  Don't know. So yeah, we'll find out.
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  Rogue Invitational, they'll be using that.
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  Invites be coming out soon and on Friday.
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  Norcal Classic qualifier workouts or release.
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  We're starting the season before the Open.
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  I don't like it. I.
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  But. Yeah, I'm not as weird of it
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  either, but I think I'm thinking about signing up.
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  I'm. Going to sign up too.
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  Go ahead, sign up. Sign up.
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  Norcal Classic Competition corner.
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  Go support those guys. I I'm not mad at Norcal for
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  doing it. I'm a mad that that's part of
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  the season and that's all. Yeah, it's just, it's just.
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  Yeah, yeah. No, I I'm not mad either.
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  It's just. I think the Open should be where
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  it start. I think the Open is where it
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  should start and the competition should use the open near
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  quarterfinals. I and I saw people say, well,
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  that's how the the qualifiers like these French Open, the
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  French throw down has it, Red Bull Renegades has it, Far East
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  has it, all these things. It's so that the athletes who
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  aren't participating in the game season can qualify.
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  I don't think they should be able to compete anyway.
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  But that's also like the The semifinal should be for the
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  game's qualifier, not for anybody random that just wants
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  to compete and not be part of the season.
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  Yeah. I I do agree with that part, but
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  I in Norcal's defense, the one reason I do like it is because
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  nothing else is really going on. So you're not stressing the
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  athletes out having to do 6 qualifiers back-to-back to back,
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  you know, trying to do that. If you only want to go to
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  Norcal, if you want to go to French Throwdown or Rebel or Far
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  East, those three are all like on top of each other, right?
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  I just coming up. Yeah, they're at the end of
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  January, early February. They're like either overlapping
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  or like back-to-back to back. That still gives you some time.
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  I get it, but like there's something special about the open
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  and the .1 open announcement that kicks off the year makes a
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  big deal. The open matters.
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  You got to go through the open. It's kind of weird if you
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  qualify for a semi final before the open even starts and you've
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  got your ticket to go compete there as long as you finish in
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  the top 2000 at quarterfinals. Like it's kind of it's just
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  backwards and I just don't. I agree completely with spin.
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  I understand. With that, John agrees.
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  Tyler agrees. We'll see you guys next week.
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  I apologize to absolutely nobody.
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  Real quick, John. I wanted to shout out somebody
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  when it's OK.