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Trespass · Cage Match: A Roundabout Way of Meeting Nicolas Cage

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So is Joel Schumacher a good director? Give me
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a rundown of like. All right, here. Notable Schumacher.
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Okay, that's actually a good way to do it. Lost
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Boys. Batman Forever. Batman and Robin. 8mm.
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Trespass. So as a director, The Incredible Shrinking
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Woman in 1981. Haven't seen it. Correct. Street
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Fleet. I don't know why I said correct. Yeah,
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thanks. Thanks for confirming that I have not
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seen that. St. Elmo's Fire. Not a bad movie.
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Haven't seen it. Lost Boys. Arguably a very good
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movie. Yeah. A real banger. Cousins. Don't know
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that one. I think I've watched that documentary.
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Yes. Flatliners. Not a good movie. Kind of fun.
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Stupid. OK. That's where they like a bunch of,
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I don't know, med students or something basically
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kill themselves. OK. Yeah. I don't know if I've
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seen it, but I've heard of it. Then it was Dying
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Young. OK. Don't know that one. falling down
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oh bad bad bad movie that people seem to a certain
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kind of people like to love yeah that is one
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of those that's like definitely regarded well
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even though i think it kind of sucks shit is
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it michael douglas yes michael douglas like has
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is just a white guy who has a bad day and decides
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to take it out on the world but is a hero because
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of it because he's saying all those things you
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can't say about the blacks and like oh okay yeah
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that's pretty much it problematic cool then we
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have uh the client so some sort of legal thriller
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with tommy lee jones uh batman forever a time
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to kill which i think is a pretty pretty good
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one batman and robin eight millimeter bad and
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then we get into the weird stuff is the client
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based on like one of those uh books by the guy
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who did like the pelican brief and stuff yeah
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that sounded like one yeah And it's Flawless,
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Tigerland, Bad Company, Phone Booth. That movie
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sucked. Bad Company. Something called Veronica
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Gurin. I thought it just said Bone Booth, and
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I'm like, I've seen that one. A different documentary.
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Phantom of the Opera, the one with Emmy Rossum.
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That's not very good. Bad, bad, bad, bad. The
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Number 23 with Jim Carrey, also bad. Something
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called Blood Creek, 12, Trespass. That is all.
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Hmm. Is Joel Schumacher alive? No, he died. This
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was his last actual movie. Oh, okay. When did
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he die? 2020. Oh. But he had a big gap. He was
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pretty sick and he didn't do anything for a while.
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Sure. And can I just say, way to go out on a
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whimper. Yeah. I mean, it must have been really
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bad. Like, he must have been pretty sick to not
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make anything else in the nine years before his
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death. Or maybe he just figured he was done.
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Maybe he just retired. Yeah, I mean, he did retire
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from the mortal coil. But I mean, I mean, after
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making Trespass, he's like, what else can I do?
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I've made a film that has 11 endings. I've said
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all I have to say. Yeah. Well, once you've directed
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Nicolas Cage twice, the only thing left to do
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is direct Nicolas Cage thrice and then die or
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die. Yeah. One or the other. Yeah, and if there
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weren't any good Nicolas Cage scripts coming
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up, might as well just die. Yeah. He wasn't touched
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and left behind. No. I mean, I would argue that
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this wasn't a good Nicolas Cage script. Yeah,
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no, it wasn't. It is a movie starring Nicolas
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Cage. It is, which is why we're talking about
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it. Yeah, and Ben Mendelsohn with dark hair.
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Yeah, that was weird. And a mustache. His mustache
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was kind of off -putting, especially in their
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weird like pantyhats. Yeah, his weird mask panty
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face. Very strange. I wanted somebody to have
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like the lacy pattern still like pressed into
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their skin after they take it off. This has always
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been my issue with the fucking like Batman style
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like cowl for superheroes. Like you'd get weird
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tan lines, wouldn't you? Not if you fight crime
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at night. Yeah, they're night workers mostly.
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Not all of them. Well, how many of them do operate
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during the daytime? Or just like the domino,
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like people who wear domino masks. Like it's,
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it's just like you'd get tan lines is all I'm
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saying. You could use baby block all the time.
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The super thick, creamy. Yeah. Thick and creamy.
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Blast it all over your face. Like the time you
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did white face in Vegas. yeah it was just like
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peter's white face i i didn't get sunburned so
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who's laughing now bitches yeah not the sun yeah
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loser couldn't get me uh real quick before we
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go any further welcome back to cage magical and
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roundabout we meet nicholas cage i'm your host
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sean here with my co -host nick and our producer
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nick peter hello and we're talking about the
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movie trespass just so all of that previous preamble
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makes any sense I mean, yeah, people obviously
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knew what we were talking about, right? It's
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in the title of the title. Yeah, there's that.
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Who knows? People maybe do shuffle on our stuff
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and didn't notice. That'd be weird. Yeah, I think
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the only one who would maybe do that is Bill.
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Bill, maybe Bill, Bill, Bill. So what do you
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guys think of this movie? I mean, it's rated
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like. Exactly what I think about this movie,
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but like just under mid. Yeah, it's like a 48
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% or something like that. I feel that is extremely
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generous. None of the performances were bad.
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None of them were necessarily great either. None
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of them were good. There was one too many betrayals
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slash twists slash not really betrayal, but then
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it is a betrayal, but then it doesn't matter
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because Ben Mendelsohn's dead five minutes later.
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Yeah, I thought all the twists and everything
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were relatively understandable. Like, I wasn't
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going through trying to think ahead on this film,
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but every time something would happen, it's like,
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oh, yeah, that makes sense. I'm not shocked by
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that development. But, like, I'm not shocked
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by any of the development. Rotten Tomatoes does
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have this as a 9%, so... Wow! Skills balance.
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That's better. I'm not saying that I was surprised
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by any of the double crosses. I was just like,
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Cool. It's like, all right, we're going to put
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you to sleep with this sleeping drug. It's not
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a sleeping drug. It's a powerful paralytic. Yeah.
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Wait, no, it's not. It's actually just the sleeping
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drug again. But it doesn't matter because we're
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going to shoot that guy. But before he dies,
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he's going to tell Ben Mendelsohn how his brother
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betrayed him before this movie started. But five
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minutes later, they're going to kill Ben Mendelsohn.
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there's gonna be no conflict there there's a
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lot of dying really rapidly in this movie they
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don't really like break it out over a long period
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of time it's sort of just like oh now's the time
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we're done with these characters yeah all the
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bad people are dead now and there's the last
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one okay cool i will say the one chuckle i got
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out of this is when the daughter like careens
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the car into the phone pole with the met with
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the um Yeah, the bass head. What's her name?
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Petal. Petal. Oh, God. What a dumb name. I fucking
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hated it every time they said her name. But all
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I could think of was like, I went through a windshield.
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Damn, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, but she definitely
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gave a fuck. Oh, yeah. Also, Sean, Taco just
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walked by in the background, and all I could
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think about was the sex worker in Joe who crawls
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out for a second. Get off the damn floor. Taco's
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my cat for anyone who doesn't know that. All
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right. Who wants to give a quick synopsis of
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this movie? Nicolas Cage and Nicole Kidman hate
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each other slash don't. They have a daughter
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who hates them slash doesn't. They get home invaded
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because Nicolas Cage has a bunch of diamonds,
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but doesn't. And then everyone shoots themselves
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and then there's money, but it's on fire. And
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then the movie's over. But which ending is that?
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I don't remember. I watched this. I just got
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done watching this movie 20 minutes ago and I
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can tell you fuck all that happened in it. So
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the crux, the crux of the plot is they're so
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far underwater on this house that Nick Cage is
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like selling off her jewelry to like store a
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bunch of money to like hide a bunch of money
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from the bank. So when they declare bankruptcy,
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it's going to be fine. And some criminals know
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this somehow. But one of the criminals was sleeping
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with Nicole Kidman, but wasn't. He's just crazy.
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Yeah, he was a creep. That was the only surprise
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in this movie that I was like, oh, that's almost
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interesting because he just sort of assumes that
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he's in some sort of relationship because he's
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off his meds. Yeah, that is the best description
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of this movie. Almost interesting. Off his meds.
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Off his meds. Yeah. I don't know. I didn't I
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didn't hate this movie. I think it was sort of
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like nothing. I mean, it didn't leave a bad taste
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in my mouth. It just left no taste. I didn't
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feel like I wasted my time watching it, but I
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didn't really gain anything from watching it.
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It was a fine film. That's that's the worst for
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me, though. Like, I mean, it's not even so bad
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that I'm going to enjoy that. I am enjoying that
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aspect of it. Every five minutes, there's some
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type of double cross or like twist, but only
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to be undone by the next one. Yeah, I think this
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would be a great Sunday afternoon TNT film. Oh,
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yeah. Like, that's where I expect to watch this.
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Yeah, I can't imagine this movie with commercials.
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Yeah, how would you follow the plot? Just there's
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so much of it that could be taken out and it
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wouldn't matter at all. Like, yeah, but at some
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point you. cease to have a film too much of a
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you just have a long episode the crooks to take
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out the marriage no i'm saying you take it like
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so there's a whole thing with ben mendelsohn
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who's trying to get this money because it turns
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out that he's into like he got a bunch of drugs
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stolen from a cartel or some criminal yeah he's
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a ding dong he bought too many drugs and then
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the drugs got stolen by the cartel he bought
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it from right And his dumb brother. Supposedly,
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that's the thing is like there's no conflict
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gained there because the guy who's like really
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running the show tends Ben Mendelsohn that right
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before he dies. And then Ben Mendelsohn and his
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brother never have any conflict over it. So there
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is no point to that being in the film. Who shot
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Mendelsohn? I don't even remember. The brother.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, because he was going to kill
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Nicole Kidman's. yeah the love of his life right
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yeah yeah so there's just like there's so much
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just circular like we're gonna build suspense
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we're gonna build conflict but we're not gonna
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do anything with that conflict i have a question
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about nail guns okay that was a pneumatic nail
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gun so you needed the air compressor turned on
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for it to work okay did they do that uh apparently
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in the end he turned it on it was not a very
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noisy air compressor so i wouldn't say it was
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a very powerful nail but Could you shoot a nail
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gun nail from a distance of six feet through
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someone's foot? Six feet depends on the PSI of
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the nail gun. Sure. But I've shot them across
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rooms and I've shot nails from the stage to the
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back of an auditorium before, too. OK, that's
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pretty good. So you can travel far, I will say.
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So you if you really jacked the PSI. Yeah. Yeah.
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Mythbusters tested this. They don't come out
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straight once they leave the thing. They like.
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tumble so it wouldn't have gone through they've
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got like a sail or whatever behind like a little
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parachute interesting so realistically he couldn't
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have like nailed the guy's foot to the floor
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but he probably could have punctured his foot
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yeah like he was stuck to the floor which is
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with a i mean with a lucky shot and you know
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maybe not with that style of nail but if you
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had a nail that didn't have like because i mean
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it's a nail gun you don't need a head on it necessarily
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so like finishing nails something with a small
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head would probably have a better chance at shooting
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straight he's had a big head on them though because
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you could see the nails clearly oh yeah no like
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clearly it was a made for film nail stylistically
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that made sense for this but yeah it just that
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was one of those things where i was like i see
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using the nail gun as a way to like fuck that
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guy up a little bit but to pin him to the ground
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seemed really ridiculous it's like get the claw
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hammer like i would man love to see a more realistic
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approach to it where they just use it as a distraction
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because like i mean i personally have been shot
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with a nail gun from about like 25 feet just
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because we wanted to know yeah where did you
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get hit I turned my back. So that just hit me
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in like the shoulder. Nice. You know, safety
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first. It's still a construction site. Sure.
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I wore a hard hat. I wasn't going to become like
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that guy from Happy Gilmore. Oh, that's right.
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Yeah. I mean, it just felt like somebody was
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throwing nails at me at that range. But that
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was an electric one, too. It wasn't wasn't the
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same. I feel like we have to test this theory.
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I'm down with that. Yeah. I can secure everything
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we need. This is the most doable dumb decision
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we've ever come up with. Let's do this live at
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the Beacon. I don't think the Beacon's insurance
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is ready for that. Well, especially because we'll
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have everyone in the audience take bets. Yeah.
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It's got as much illegal activity going on as
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we possibly can. Yeah. The first three rows may
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get wet. I want to talk about. How fucking that
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house was Nicole Kidman. She designs the house.
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Is she MC Escher? Because there are so many times
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in this film where someone will be running from
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a criminal and then that very same criminal will
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be in front of them. Oh, I thought you were going
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to say on the ceiling. Oh, yeah, you're right.
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I mean, there is it must just be like a very
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open floor plan because you're trying to dash
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away and hide. And then instantly the person
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that you're running away from is right there.
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It's like. This house sucks. Yeah, it strikes
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me as the kind of house that doesn't believe
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in doors. Yeah, for sure. Also, what was up with
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the kids door like lock? Like it had a pretty
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intense lock on it. Yeah. Oh, having a deadbolt.
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Yeah. Weird. I thought about that, too. Yeah,
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I don't want to be like a really weird, restrictive
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parent in my future, but like that seems fucked
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up. Yeah. You're not going to deadbolt your door
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on me. Yeah, it's unnecessary. Yeah. Also with.
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Here's something that concerned me with their
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security systems and everything. Why were there
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no like keypads up in like rooms and stuff? No
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shit. Like any sort of panic option. You have
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that deadbolt. That's a perfect opportunity for
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something script wise for her, like the kid to
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get back to her room, lock it and start punching
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in the code. Yeah. Hit the, hit the alarm code
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or something like that. Yeah. It was cool when
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they threw the chair through the window though.
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That was cool. I like that. their passcode is
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stupid yeah diamond i saw it before they said
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it i just saw it in the corner of the screen
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it was like that's fucking stupid and then they
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had to say it out loud and i was like oh of course
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they have to say it out loud but now that was
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their trigger password right that was the one
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that called the cops uh that's the one that they
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say to tell the cops everything is fine oh that's
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the we're all good here yeah yeah all good diamond
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that's like if i chose a hot dog that's super
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predictable i kind of i kind of want that to
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be your your safe word always oh yeah that's
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my proceed predictable it's like well we're all
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good keep saying keep going hot dog i'm dipping
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your toes in this yogurt hot dog hot diggity
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dog oh snap I was talking to Josh the other day
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about the hot yogurt toes, and he was just like,
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that is easily one of the most repulsive things
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that I can ever possibly imagine. I mean, he
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doesn't like most dairy things, so it makes sense.
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But yeah, it is pretty, pretty weird. That's
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a weird thing to have to get over Jennifer Beals.
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I was just thinking, do they make non -dairy
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yogurt? And what would it be made out of? They
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do. They make like cashew yogurts and shit like
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that. Huh. Fogurt. F -A -U -X. Coconut milk yogurt.
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Yeah, they do coconut. I guess it makes sense,
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but I just don't understand how it ferments.
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Maybe it's just coconut milk with a thickener.
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I got a thickener. Yeah. Put that shit on my
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toes, you'll get thickened. Thick as a brick.
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Oh, man. I also want to point out that it bugs
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me. The daughter crashed the car. No airbags.
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fancy cars don't need airbags they assume that
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you're just gonna die you can always turn the
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airbags off too true it's it's surprising that
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she didn't get like grievously hurt in that too
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yeah i mean all she did was like have her seat
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belt on and undid the seat belt her pedal she
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put the pedal to the metal what about the doofy
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kid at the party yeah he was something else uh
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that scene was just so dumb too that kid wanted
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it so bad like i don't know the whole concept
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or idea of like this party scene is so stupid
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like she goes so far out of her way to go with
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her little hussy friend can i say that you can
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i can say that uh because she's a minor proceed
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Well, we can speak ill of minors who engage in
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sexual activity because their souls are morally
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decrepit. They always are going to die in these
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movies. It's just the way of it. She fucked up.
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So she goes to this party with her little friend
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and completely like no need for the friend anymore.
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Once they're at the party, then there's just
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the kid who's like, I want to show you something.
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And she's not immediately skeeved out by that.
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And it's like, come look at my dad's money drug
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gun safe. it's like okay and she's like i'm just
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gonna call a cab and go home cool so like all
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of this scene was just to establish that there's
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a kid whose dad has a money gun drug safe yep
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oh cool it gets it gets dumber than that though
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when you think about this was all just an extended
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way to justify the car crash scene because they
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had to like swerve earlier in the film to go
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to the party to see the money so she could say
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that some kid has money and it's just all so
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pointless contrived yeah now to be fair if we
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had gotten through the film and that scene didn't
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exist and she just was like oh i know where we
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can get that money and then took her out somewhere
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to get into a car accident it's like okay well
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that's also kind of a wet fart I mean, I guess
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the conflict with Petal could have gone a different
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direction. Could have. Yeah. But you'd have to
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establish the reason for that somehow. Also,
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this is one of those movies where like nobody
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is likable. This just seems like a script that
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never got edited. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. You have
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to put a lot of work into like jumping through
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mental hoops for a lot of this film. And it's
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really just because. The footage given is the
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footage taken. Like there was no, no effort to
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make a better film. I don't think it didn't seem
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like it. Yeah. When was the last, when was the
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last big writers? Not the most recent one, but
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the one before this writer strike. Fuck. I don't
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know. I mean, it feels like they happen every
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four or five years on contract cycles. Yeah.
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There are some like the major ones. I don't know.
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Cause there was the one that happened during
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lost. There was another one. I don't know. five
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years after that uh when did this movie come
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out again 2011 2011 do we know when it started
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filming well that was a weird one too i don't
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know if you guys saw that but there was a delay
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during the process because cage quit for a bit
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because he didn't want to be the dad he wanted
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to be one of the burglars well midway through
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filming or something like that he's like clearly
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this is a better role yeah and leo schreiber
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was gonna take his spot and then i guess they
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coerced him back or something got sweet talked
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by schumacher well i mean i wonder if they just
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getting him back probably i wonder how much of
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the budget that just ate into just because yeah
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this all seems like it was filmed in order and
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not edited Here's a good little trivia bit for
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you guys. This film earned a Razzie award for
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Nicolas Cage's worst actor. So one, can you think
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of the two other movies that he also earned that
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award? Left Behind? Nope. Good guess, but no.
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9 -11? Nope. 9 -11 movie came out. I guess you
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can't give that movie a Razzie. That's the same
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film. Okay. We have watched both of these. One
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of them was a bonus. One of them was a canonical
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one. Okay, so a Wicker Man? Nope. No. No. Shocking.
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It's one that we've definitely talked about a
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lot. No, it's not even that one. What is it?
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Drive Angry. Okay. And Season of the Witch. Oh.
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Yeah. Yeah. But so this one earned a Razzie and
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it lost. to another movie that we've talked about
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on here that is unrelated to Nick Cage, but we
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definitely spent a stupid amount of time talking
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about. It is a Adam Sandler movie. Eight Crazy
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Nights. Happy Gilmore? No, no. Grown Ups? Grown
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Ups 2. It's an Adam Sandler and Adam Sandler
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movie. Oh. Oh, Jack and Jill. Jack and Jill.
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Did Adam Sandler win Razzie for Jack or Jill?
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Both, I think the worst actor and worst actress.
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I mean, I kind of hope that's what that would
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be pretty amazing. So I'm just going to say,
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yeah, you can listen or you can skip this film.
23:29
Yeah, I mean, if you want to see this film, just
23:32
watch Uncut Gems. But then again, if you have
23:36
heart problems, don't watch Uncut Gems. Because
23:39
that was one of the most stressful movies I think
23:41
I've watched since The Descent. I really want
23:44
to watch that one. Ooh, The Descent was a really
23:46
stressful movie. I have claustrophobia. I was
23:50
going to cry. If you want to watch a better home
23:52
invasion movie with a great mustache, The Ref
23:55
with Dennis Leary. It's a Christmas film. Holy
24:02
shit. Spacey's in it, so you might have to give
24:04
it a miss for that if you're not willing to watch
24:06
Spacey. So Jack and Jill fact that was nominated
24:11
for a record 12 Razzies in all 10 categories.
24:15
And it was the first film to sweep all of them.
24:18
Wow. 12 Razzies in 10 categories. What categories
24:22
did it get double nominated for? Well, it did.
24:25
It did take worst actor and worst actress. Yes.
24:29
Okay. That sale sounds like two categories to
24:32
me. Yeah. I don't know what the extra ones were.
24:34
I mean. The ones that it was part of were Worst
24:38
Picture, Worst Director, Worst Actor, Worst Actress
24:40
and Worst Screenplay, which are really the most
24:41
important ones. Right. They could have had double
24:44
nominations for like Worst Actor or something.
24:46
Sure. Yeah. Did he go and did he go and collect
24:50
his Razzies in person? Somehow I feel like people
24:53
don't go to the Razzies, but I don't know. Fucking
24:56
Halle Berry did. You'd have to be a very good
24:59
sport to go, I suppose. What'd she go for? Catwoman?
25:03
Catwoman, yeah. Yeah. And it was after she won
25:06
her Oscar, so she just gave a version of her
25:07
Oscar speech. She wore a gown and everything.
25:10
I kind of love that. Yeah, that's terrific. That's
25:13
pretty fucking great. Well, yeah, I mean, I agree
25:16
with your assessment, Sean. There's not much
25:17
to say about this movie that's commendable. I
25:20
love the direction. I love him walking around
25:24
the house with that coat over his shoulder. That's
25:26
actually the only thing I'm going to say I love
25:28
about this film. Yeah, but it was just so dumb.
25:31
He spends an entire scene walking around his
25:34
house with coat over his shoulder, phone rings
25:36
and everything. Yeah. And he just never sets
25:40
it down like a normal person. That was really
25:43
weird. Yeah. I mean, that again goes to the point
25:45
of like, I don't think they had anyone on staff
25:47
who was actually doing anything in terms of editing
25:49
or. producing or there was no like continuity
25:52
manager i'm sure so it's like just carry it nobody
25:56
eats or drinks anything because we don't want
25:58
to refill glasses oh the only other good thing
26:01
that i was thinking about so the the like lead
26:04
bad guy that isn't ben mendelsohn ty i was like
26:08
why do i know that guy's fucking face and he's
26:10
been in like a ton of movies as just muscle or
26:13
a tough or whatever But he was a character in
26:16
the movie Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, which I don't
26:18
know if you guys have seen that one, but great
26:20
movie. Should watch. Very good. The younger brother?
26:24
No, no. It's the the other the like muscle guy.
26:28
He's blonde. That brother had been in some other
26:31
stuff, too. I can't remember now. What's the
26:34
actor's name? Dash Mihawk or Mihawk. His name's
26:39
Dash. That's unfortunate. I mean, it's Daschle,
26:41
but yeah. I mean, still, that's a shit name,
26:44
too. Daschle's dumber. Daschle is dumber. Yeah,
26:48
Cam Gigandet is the other one. Oh, he was born
26:52
in Tacoma. Yeah, oh, okay. That's what I was
26:54
trying to remember. Oh, he's a co -owner of the
26:56
Rock Pizza franchise. Yeah. Hey, all you kids
27:03
in Auburn, even you can grow up to be in forgettable
27:05
films. Just don't give up on your dreams. Yeah,
27:10
you can be in Two Sinners and a Mule. Or Blowback,
27:14
which is definitely a documentary. Yeah. The
27:18
old quid pro quo porno. Last Shootout, also one.
27:25
Without Remorse, also one. bad johnson yes sir
27:31
oh my god every one of his films is just a chuck
27:35
tingle film free ride plush turbo oh no cam don't
27:45
do it oh my god there's always money in the banana
27:48
stand there was money in that wall yeah oh man
27:51
his brother lit up quick oh yeah oh yeah he burned
27:56
so fast i'm like wow i mean they had like chucked
28:00
you know kerosene on him or some shit but like
28:02
no he just poured that onto the floor and it
28:04
just like went over to the money yeah oh right
28:07
and then he went and reached for the money and
28:08
then also just was on fire really fast no she
28:12
pushed uh nicole kidman pushes him into the fire
28:14
even still like i don't think you just ignite
28:18
no he gets shot in the neck nick case shoots
28:21
him in the neck and then he falls over into the
28:22
fire yeah which is actually the second instance
28:26
for me this week Where a piece of fiction concluded
28:31
with a bad guy burning on a pile of cash. What
28:34
was the other one? The first Jack Reacher book.
28:37
Oh, they're easy to listen to while I work. I've
28:41
never read any of those. You know, if you like
28:43
kind of pulpy. I mean, I sort of generally do.
28:47
Those are sort of my airplane books. Yeah, it's
28:49
good investigator kind of like, oh, who done
28:51
it? Figure out a mystery. Now, isn't Reacher
28:54
supposed to be sort of like an everyman? He's
28:56
not. Well, he's retired military police. OK,
28:59
so in the Amazon show, he's huge. He's a fucking
29:03
like, well, the character is six foot five. OK,
29:06
in the books. There we go. Yeah. So then it was
29:08
weird that Tom Cruise played him. Yeah. So weird
29:11
that Tom Cruise plays him. OK, that makes more
29:13
sense. Lee Child, the author, has been like,
29:15
yeah, I mean, physically, Tom Cruise is not the
29:19
character or the actor for the role. Yeah. Wasn't
29:22
Krasinski also one? Uh, no, he plays John, uh,
29:27
Jack Ryan. Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. Uh, from the
29:31
Tom Clancy books. Gotcha. Like Harrison Ford
29:34
and, uh, Alec Baldwin before him. Yeah, exactly.
29:37
Same body type. Same person. Chris Pine. Chris
29:40
Pine was one too. Oh yeah. The last, uh, Jack
29:44
official Jack Ryan film was a Chris Pine movie.
29:48
Interesting. Also entertaining. yeah i think
29:54
about chris pine every once in a while just in
29:56
that scene in the dnd movie where he just sort
29:58
of like glitches and melts i just i just re -watched
30:04
that movie it's still it still holds up it's
30:06
a great film jonathan man jonathan i think it's
30:12
is it uh sean levy is doing a forgotten realms
30:19
dnd show for netflix Oh, yeah, I heard about
30:23
that. For one of the streaming services. Yeah.
30:25
That's cool. Which I'm here for. Fucking... Maybe
30:30
we'll get a fucking... Oh, God, what's his name?
30:34
Like, the one, the drow... Drist. With the panther
30:38
and the two swords. Drist. Durden. Drist Durden
30:43
with his swords. I think one of them's just named
30:47
Tingle, or Tinkle. Yeah, it's like Tinkle and...
30:52
It's like burning death and tinkle. Tinkle and
30:57
drip. Oh, man. Give you the old slash and clap.
31:02
Slash and clap, tinkle and drip. Ooh, baby. And
31:06
that's why you listen to Cage Match. Gonorrhea
31:09
references. All right. Any other thoughts on
31:12
this one? No. No. All right. Well, thank you
31:18
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31:30
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31:33
So next up will actually be the sort of D &D
31:38
tabletop game that we're going to do with the
31:40
final Foreskin characters. And then it is the
31:43
big finale, April 12th in Seattle. If you want
31:47
to come watch the two final movies and have some
31:51
mimosas and bagels and bond me and other shit,
31:53
come join us and we will have a real dumb time.
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Bill. Bill. Bill. Bye bye. Bye bye.